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Nic Jones - video footage?

07 Nov 06 - 03:47 PM (#1878574)
Subject: Nic Jones - video footage?
From: GUEST,Tunesmith

Is there any video footage of Nic in existence? If so, I wish someone would place it on Youtube!


07 Nov 06 - 04:21 PM (#1878603)
Subject: RE: Nic Jones - video footage?
From: GUEST

I hate you and yor kind. No is the simple answer. Try not to be so greedy.


08 Nov 06 - 01:47 AM (#1878806)
Subject: RE: Nic Jones - video footage?
From: GUEST,Ralphie

Hi Tunesmith.
Not sure why guest was so vitriolic??
To answer your question. I don't think so, unless there is some amateur stuff out there. Have certainly never seen any, and I don't think Nic has either. Mind you it would be a laugh to see!!
Regards Ralphie


08 Nov 06 - 04:09 AM (#1878864)
Subject: RE: Nic Jones - video footage?
From: GUEST,Janine

I often wonder why people don't bother at the time. There's hardly anything of Woody or Leadbelly and nothing of Woody & Cisco together either. What great stuff that would have been! Got hooked listening to Dad's records as a child.
Jan
Come on get videoing someone now!


08 Nov 06 - 04:29 AM (#1878876)
Subject: RE: Nic Jones - video footage?
From: GUEST,Ralphie

Hi Janine.
I guess that technology has moved on. Back in the 70's it wasn't so easy. And Nic never made the TV.
Talking of Nics, I don't think thyere's much footage of Nick Drake either.!!
Cheers


08 Nov 06 - 04:37 AM (#1878885)
Subject: RE: Nic Jones - video footage?
From: The Borchester Echo

Also featuring the dog at 1'02":

You may be able to find a clip at http://www.youtube.com


08 Nov 06 - 04:58 AM (#1878900)
Subject: RE: Nic Jones - video footage?
From: GUEST,Janine

Thanks countess richard - well found

I guess you're right, Ralphie. Dare I say it: there are less singers worth videoing now. Ow!

Jan


08 Nov 06 - 09:46 AM (#1879074)
Subject: RE: Nic Jones - video footage?
From: GUEST,Tunesmith

It's a scandal that there's no footage of Nic in his prime! When did video cameras become readily available to the general public?


08 Nov 06 - 11:12 AM (#1879148)
Subject: RE: Nic Jones - video footage?
From: GUEST, Topsie

As far as I remember it was well into the eighties before video recorders were at all common.


09 Nov 06 - 05:44 AM (#1880011)
Subject: RE: Nic Jones - video footage?
From: pavane

I know they were around in 1980.

Around 1980, when I lived in Dubai, the (Liverpool) Spinners visited, to play at Dubai Country Club. (Other guests around this time at the club included Julie Felix and a comedian called Billy Connolly - we missed both because we were on holiday both times)

We were invited to take part in a lunchtime session at the Dubai Marine Hotel ,where they were staying, during which my son (aged 1) was sitting on Cliff's knee, and one of the other members went back to his room, got a Video recorder and recorded my medley of Morris tunes (played rather badly).


09 Nov 06 - 05:58 AM (#1880017)
Subject: RE: Nic Jones - video footage?
From: Pete MacGregor

Anyone know what happened to the miles of film shot by 'Peter the Red' in Sidmouth in the 70s - and perhaps earlier?
He used to get around the festival on a mini motorbike and seemed to film everything in sight. I don't think he only covered the dance side of things but I may be mistaken.

PM


09 Nov 06 - 08:13 AM (#1880056)
Subject: RE: Nic Jones - video footage?
From: GUEST,Derek Schofield

All the Peter the Red films went to JKL Video in Sidmouth and were put onto video and available for purchase. JKL Video has now closed, following the (semi) retirmement of the owner. I have been in discussion with him about what happens to all his videos - Peter the Red archive and JKL's own videos.
There are copies of the Peter the Red videos in the Vaughan Williams Memorial Library.
Derek Schofield


09 Nov 06 - 09:16 AM (#1880125)
Subject: RE: Nic Jones - video footage?
From: Charley Noble

You might check with Ken and Jan Lardner at Chantey Cabin. If there is available footage, they either possess it or know where it is.

Cheerily,
Charley Noble


09 Nov 06 - 04:46 PM (#1880560)
Subject: RE: Nic Jones - video footage?
From: shepherdlass

Pavane - I think that video cameras were probably more common in Dubai than here at that time - it's the kind of place where disposable incomes are pretty high. I remember how prevalent the old brick type mobile phones were when almost no-one outside of the investment bankers in Britain had them.

I'd LOVE to be proved wrong, though - never having seen the man play live, a video clip would be a wondrous thing.


10 Nov 06 - 04:37 AM (#1881013)
Subject: RE: Nic Jones - video footage?
From: Nigel Paterson

I've searched high & low for film/video footage of Nic & The Halliard, all to no avail.Back in the 60s/early 70s there were an increasing number of 8mm & super8mm film cameras around, but IMHO,it's got less to do with hardware availability & much more to do with the impact of the 'digital revolution' & attitudes in society. Now it's so easy to film/video/record almost any performance (legally AND illegally!). The results can be viewed instantly, you can more or less edit as you go. Back when we were performing, capturing good moving images was a much more serious undertaking, left largely to the pro's and a small group of dedicated amateurs, none of whom sadly, ever pointed a camera at us!
             Nigel(originally analogue,increasingly digital)Paterson


10 Nov 06 - 04:40 AM (#1881015)
Subject: RE: Nic Jones - video footage?
From: GUEST,Guest

Nic once sang a song on Anglia TV on a 6'0'clock type programme. Also appeared briefly in a recording booth on a documentary about folk.


10 Nov 06 - 01:49 PM (#1882404)
Subject: RE: Nic Jones - video footage?
From: rodentred

I remember the documentary about folk. It was him in a booth recording Canadeeio for the topic record. If I recall there was a lot of Martic Carthy also imploring people to support local folk clubs. Never been repeated to my knowledge


10 Nov 06 - 09:52 PM (#1882807)
Subject: RE: Nic Jones - video footage?
From: GUEST,Jim Martin

I wonder if Anglia TV could retrieve the item from their archives?


11 Nov 06 - 02:16 AM (#1882882)
Subject: RE: Nic Jones - video footage?
From: GUEST,Ralphie

Hi all.
It looks like the YouTube link above has been removed.
And a good thing too.
It was private party, not for general viewing.
The Web can be a dangerous place.
Just go and buy the records...!!!
Ralph


11 Nov 06 - 04:38 AM (#1882946)
Subject: RE: Nic Jones - video footage?
From: Nigel Paterson

Ralph, I just tried the link & it's still active,
                                                Nigel P.


11 Nov 06 - 05:37 AM (#1882967)
Subject: RE: Nic Jones - video footage?
From: The Borchester Echo

The link no longer goes directly to the clip but only to YouTube after which you might still get to it via a search. I asked Mudcat to remove it and this is the best they could do.

It won't be on YouTube at all for much longer as Google have been requested to remove it from their site altogether as the filming and uploading were unauthorised and thus a breach of copyright. I didn't know this when posting the original link.

Have a look at Nic's MySpace page instead which is maintained by his daughter Helen:

http://www.myspace.com/planxtyjones


11 Nov 06 - 05:59 AM (#1882971)
Subject: RE: Nic Jones - video footage?
From: Andy Jackson

JKL video certainly seemed to film anything that moved, while Peter the Red had certain preferences. There is a very young Damien Barber in the Theatre Bar as I remember.
Just a point though Ralfie, what would be the reaction if someone turned a video camera towards the musicians in the Radway? There are several faces we would all love to see again, but no-one is ever keen to be filmed. As a balance I should point out that the same would probably be true of The Anchor.

Andy


15 Feb 07 - 11:39 PM (#1969341)
Subject: RE: Nic Jones - video footage?
From: GUEST,benwilson

Hey all!

I was talking to Nic and he said theres none!
So unless someone had the old video cameras and using it in the audience and the fotage is sitting in some old boxes, theres none haha, a pitty because theres soo much bootleg stuff from other artists from around that time :(


http://www.myspace.com/87ben87


02 Jun 09 - 09:32 AM (#2646414)
Subject: RE: Nic Jones - video footage?
From: GUEST


02 Jun 09 - 11:16 PM (#2647084)
Subject: RE: Nic Jones - video footage?
From: GUEST

Its a shame there is not a lot of Nick Drake videos around i think the guy was a phenomenal song writer and to me his guitar playing was just welllllllll!!!!!!!!!! brilliant
helen


21 Jan 10 - 07:50 AM (#2817449)
Subject: RE: Nic Jones - video footage?
From: GUEST,Doc Rowe

Sorry I have only just come across this thread ...
Yes, there is footage of Nic playing. He was filmed in Topic recording studio for a BBC documentary "The Other Music" [produced by Philip Donnellan and transmitted in 1981]

Doc


21 Jan 10 - 09:27 AM (#2817504)
Subject: RE: Nic Jones - video footage?
From: GUEST,Ralphie

Doc
Nice to know.
Keep it safe. Thats probably the only evidence that Nic could actually play!!
Did no-one video the Transports sessions? Lots of stills.
Regards Ralphie


21 Jan 10 - 09:38 AM (#2817509)
Subject: RE: Nic Jones - video footage?
From: Dave Sutherland

How many copies of "The Other Music" are in circulation? On another thread concerning that programme someone stated that there only was the one.


21 Jan 10 - 12:00 PM (#2817633)
Subject: RE: Nic Jones - video footage?
From: GUEST,Agnes_Guano

Does anyone know if Nic's 1976 Radio One sessions are available?


22 Jan 10 - 02:25 AM (#2818235)
Subject: RE: Nic Jones - video footage?
From: GUEST,Ralphie

Of the 8 John Peel sessions that Nic recorded between 1972 and 1977 very few survived.

Whilst working on the Unearthed project, here is a list of what I "Unearthed"!

28-10-1974
Bonny Banks of Fordie (Off Air)

14-10-1975
Bonny George Campbell (Off Air)
The Wanton Seed (Off Air)
The Lakes of Shilin Off Air)

08-07-76
Billy, don't you weep for me
Annachie Gordon
Ten Thousand Miles
My Grandfather Knew the Plough

19-04-1977
William Glen
Annachie Gordon
Rose of Allandale

As far as I know, The 76/77 sessions still exist in the BBC archive, but as the only track not to appear elsewhere is "Grandfather" I doubt that they will ever see the light of day.

Hope that helps


13 Oct 12 - 11:16 AM (#3419191)
Subject: RE: Nic Jones - video footage?
From: GUEST,CB

I have the 76 and 77 Nic Jones Peel sessions on tape- I recorded them from the Peel Shows at the time


14 Oct 12 - 07:54 AM (#3419577)
Subject: RE: Nic Jones - video footage?
From: GUEST

Um, gosh, that's a remarkable find. Please look after them. Perchance you would be able to share them? Happy to come to a commercial arrangement so that Nic gets some well-deserved cash out of them....


14 Oct 12 - 05:42 PM (#3419829)
Subject: RE: Nic Jones - video footage?
From: pavane

I think the rights would still belong to the BBC


14 Oct 12 - 05:49 PM (#3419838)
Subject: RE: Nic Jones - video footage?
From: pavane

I would love to hear whether his performance of O'Carolan's Concerto has survived. I remember hearing it on the radio (John Peel's show) as I was driving through London.


14 Oct 12 - 08:35 PM (#3419931)
Subject: RE: Nic Jones - video footage?
From: dick greenhaus

Can anyone tell me how many copies of Unearthed have been sold?


15 Oct 12 - 02:34 AM (#3420024)
Subject: RE: Nic Jones - video footage?
From: GUEST,Ralphie

Hi Dick, Can't really answer re sale figures of "Unearthed" but I'm sure a quick E Mail to Julia Jones at Mollie Music would get the info for you. After all, I doubt if it's a state secret! and as it's producer, I would be intrigued to find out myself.
As far as video is concerned, an indepent TV producer is working on an hour long documentary on Nics life, due to be aired on the BBC in the spring. It includes some old footage of Nic playing, but, mainly concentrates on Nics performances this year with his son Joe (guitar) and Belinda O'Hooley (Keys/accordian) More news to follow.


15 Oct 12 - 04:14 AM (#3420049)
Subject: RE: Nic Jones - video footage?
From: nickp

Aha... those cameras at the wonderful Towersey gig!


17 Oct 12 - 05:04 PM (#3421565)
Subject: RE: Nic Jones - video footage?
From: GUEST,Ralphie

Hi Dick.....Quick update, Julia fell off a ladder in her loft at the weekend, and broke her back. She's OK but confined to a hospital bed dosed up with morphine, so, won't be doing much in the way of E Mailing for the next few weeks. I'm sure that all her friends wish her a speedy recovery. It does mean that Nic is now in charge of the kitchen....Maybe not such a good idea!


18 Oct 12 - 03:58 AM (#3421812)
Subject: RE: Nic Jones - video footage?
From: nickp

Hope Julia recovers quickly otherwise it'll be penguin eggs and not just as a treat!


18 Oct 12 - 05:59 PM (#3422322)
Subject: RE: Nic Jones - video footage?
From: Nigel Paterson

As we're talking about Julia's accident, here is part of a message Helen Jones (Nic & Julia's daughter) sent to me. I reproduce it with her permission:

" Mum is doing well at the mo, She had an op on her wrist yesterday to pin it in place. Her back is causing her the most pain though. She fractured her lumbar spine (L2 to be exact) and her pelvis in two places. They are wanting to get her mobile as soon as possible so they are going to try and get her out of bed today. I'm not sure they'll succeed to be honest as all the pain relief from the op would have worn off. Anyway hopefully she won't be in hospital too long if they can get us some home help to come in and help her wash and dress and stuff. Other than that, Dad is doing a really good job at home and I've got to go back to work but we are managing fine between us and have some great neighbours who have offered Dad lifts to hospital and shops etc."

                                       Nigel Paterson.


19 Oct 12 - 11:08 AM (#3422647)
Subject: RE: Nic Jones - video footage?
From: Bonzo3legs

Best wishes from myself and Mrs Bonzo.


19 Oct 12 - 11:18 AM (#3422648)
Subject: RE: Nic Jones - video footage?
From: GUEST,PatrickH

E-mail to Julia at Mollie Music is bouncing, so I'll just repeat it here:
Best wishes for a speedy recovery.
Lovely to see Nic performing again.
When's the North American tour?

Patrick


10 Oct 17 - 05:44 PM (#3881419)
Subject: RE: Nic Jones - video footage?
From: GUEST,CJB

Subject: RE: Nic Jones - video footage?
From: GUEST,CB
Date: 13 Oct 12 - 11:16 AM

I have the 76 and 77 Nic Jones Peel sessions on tape- I recorded them from the Peel Shows at the time

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I'm sure that Nigel &/or Nic / Julia wold love to hear these.

Meanwhile John Peel session #7 from 8th July 1976 with Nic Jones is now on YouTube.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RzVWvjistp0

1. Billy Don't You Weep For Me
2. My Father Knew The Plough
3. Ten Thousand Miles
4. Annachie Gordon

The uploader one Sterling Cale might have other Sessions.

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10 Oct 17 - 07:09 PM (#3881432)
Subject: RE: Nic Jones - video footage?
From: RTim

Wonderful!! But where does "My Father Knew The Plough" come from - is it traditional or composed recently - I can't find it in Roud etc.???

Tim Radford


10 Oct 17 - 11:35 PM (#3881454)
Subject: RE: Nic Jones - video footage?
From: Reinhard

My Grandfather Knew the Plough, written by Phil Colclough