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Mike Harding's Folk Songs of Lancashire

20 Nov 02 - 06:38 PM (#831108)
Subject: Mike Harding's Folk Songs of Lancashire
From: GUEST,Ed

I've read things here (can't find the thread, sorry) and elsewhere, that suggest Mike invented quite a lot of the stuff in the book.

Can it be regarded as a useful reference for traditional song?

Ed


20 Nov 02 - 06:44 PM (#831116)
Subject: RE: Mike Harding's Folk Songs of Lancashire
From: John Routledge

Looking for Lancashire songs myself so watching with interest.


21 Nov 02 - 08:11 AM (#831497)
Subject: RE: Mike Harding's Folk Songs of Lancashire
From: GUEST,Raggytash

I've got a book of Lancashire songs edited by Mrs Hardings kid at home, this evening I will look it up and come back to you if you have specific requirements.
John Routledge ............what is it you're after


21 Nov 02 - 08:38 AM (#831522)
Subject: RE: Mike Harding's Folk Songs of Lancashire
From: GUEST,Parthenon

I have the Mike Harding book somewhere at home, if I can help, let me know.


21 Nov 02 - 12:52 PM (#831769)
Subject: RE: Mike Harding's Folk Songs of Lancashire
From: GUEST,JohnB

I have the Mike Harding Book "Folk Songs of Lancashire at home. I used to know him years and years ago, when he was in the Eddison Bell Jug Band, way before fame and glory. Most of the songs from memory are Trad Lancashire material and I think he gives references to origin at the back. So I don't really know what he "invented"
I picked up another Lancashire song book by Harry Boardman (name escapes me) it also has a lot of good Trad Lancashire material in it.
Will post name when I remember.
JohnB


21 Nov 02 - 01:53 PM (#831821)
Subject: RE: Mike Harding's Folk Songs of Lancashire
From: John Routledge

Hi Raggytash
I need a couple of books of Lancashire songs with as much traditional material as possible.These are for a surprise Christmas present to someone who wants to sing Lancashire songs.
Lancastrians may rest asured that they are not for personal use although no doubt I will read them with great interest.:0)


21 Nov 02 - 04:52 PM (#831954)
Subject: RE: Mike Harding's Folk Songs of Lancashire
From: John MacKenzie

I have a wonderful LP called "Deep Lancashire" Great people like Harry Boardman, and the Oldham Tinkers. It's got a wonderfull monologue on called "Clogs" it would bring a tear to a glass eye.
Giok


21 Nov 02 - 04:53 PM (#831955)
Subject: RE: Mike Harding's Folk Songs of Lancashire
From: Herga Kitty

There are also tapes by Dave "Sid" Calderbank, but you need a phrasebook to decipher the dialect.

Kitty


21 Nov 02 - 05:19 PM (#831973)
Subject: RE: Mike Harding's Folk Songs of Lancashire
From: Llanfair

From what I remember of Mike's gigs, he used traditional songs, and added bits to them. Rawtenstall Annual Fair and When the Old Dun Cow Caught Fire being ones that spring to mind.
I've got a copy of his book, John, and I think I know where it is!!!

Cheers, Bron.


21 Nov 02 - 05:55 PM (#832003)
Subject: RE: Mike Harding's Folk Songs of Lancashire
From: GUEST,Ed

Thanks Bron, that pretty much answers my question.

Whilst there is, of course, nothing wrong with Mike's approach, his texts shouldn't be considered as traditional. That's all I really wanted to know.

Thanks again

Ed


21 Nov 02 - 06:40 PM (#832035)
Subject: RE: Mike Harding's Folk Songs of Lancashire
From: nager

I have had the same album for several years now.. it is magnificent.


21 Nov 02 - 07:56 PM (#832078)
Subject: RE: Mike Harding's Folk Songs of Lancashire
From: Malcolm Douglas

The book is a mix of traditional and modern songs, and broadside texts set to music. Most have at least partial provenances; some give considerable detail. I suspect that Mike "Lankified" some of them a bit, but on the whole it's as good a resource as most of its kind.


21 Nov 02 - 08:18 PM (#832086)
Subject: RE: Mike Harding's Folk Songs of Lancashire
From: Dave Wynn

Oh Come on John (Routledge) you have some of the best songs in the UK in your personal collection. I have heard you deliver them many times.Your land of birth (North East England) has favoured you with some of the best songs ever written and here you are trying to steal what little we have in comparison.

Shame on you John. (When will we see you and hear you sing again at Swinton Folk Club?) You are always welcome (providing you bring your superb voice AND songs from your native North East. :-)

Dave W


22 Nov 02 - 07:29 AM (#832386)
Subject: RE: Mike Harding's Folk Songs of Lancashire
From: Harry Basnett

I think John said he wanted the books for somebody else....


22 Nov 02 - 10:20 AM (#832554)
Subject: RE: Mike Harding's Folk Songs of Lancashire
From: GUEST,Raggytash

John,
I have numerous LP's from the 70's with Lancashires songs on them but would recommend in the first instance, if you want to buy books, The Music Room at Cleckheaton. I'll have a think this weekend and see what I can come up with ............but a do have an appointment with a paint brush and a dining room ...............


22 Nov 02 - 07:11 PM (#832991)
Subject: RE: Mike Harding's Folk Songs of Lancashire
From: John Routledge

Thanks All.
Looks like like M.H. Folksongs of Lancashire is one of the two presents.
Spot - Will be at White Lion Monday to hear some proper Lanky songs!!