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Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006

20 Oct 01 - 11:07 AM (#576273)
Subject: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull

Somebody mentioned this in a thread, I don't know if they were serious or not, but it seems like a good idea.Who is going?


20 Oct 01 - 11:29 AM (#576292)
Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006
From: wysiwyg

Held where?

~S~


20 Oct 01 - 11:45 AM (#576304)
Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull

America.


20 Oct 01 - 11:46 AM (#576306)
Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006
From: Mrs.Duck

Sounds a great idea - have to start saving NOW!


20 Oct 01 - 11:52 AM (#576315)
Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006
From: Mr Red

North, South or Central?


20 Oct 01 - 12:24 PM (#576330)
Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006
From: wysiwyg

*G* "America" is pretty big and includes South America as well as Canada. The US alone is... 'uge!

So, is it going to be near Mudcat Central?

~S~


20 Oct 01 - 12:37 PM (#576339)
Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006
From: Noreen

Which thread, John?


20 Oct 01 - 12:48 PM (#576341)
Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006
From: catspaw49

I think this was an original idea from Bill Sables. He's talked some about it and we were discussing it when he was here in June. 2006 would be the tenth anniversary of Mudcat so it would be a big event if we pull it off. Since I have a track record of never getting to anything even when I plan it, I'm probably not the one to talk to about it!

A Catters Worldwide Gathering would be one helluva' deal though wouldn't it? I think the possibilities are endless and could include a "Public Invited, Donations Accepted" All-Day Concert in some large outdoor place. My first inclination would be to have it around Philly where Mudcat started but it's wide open as far as I'm concerned. No matter where it is, some are going to have to travel a llooonnnggg way and hence the start of planning now.

We'll get Bill's thoughts here I'm sure and everyone needs to be thinking of how we could pull this thing together.

Spaw


20 Oct 01 - 12:56 PM (#576342)
Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006
From: Noreen

And we'll charter a plane from the UK... or *bright idea* we could buy a 747 right now for a very good price... anyone got a big garage? :0)


20 Oct 01 - 12:59 PM (#576344)
Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006
From: catspaw49

Actually, that's exactly what Bill was thinking....the charter idea. Then again, right now we could probably pick up a few airliners pretty cheap.

Spaw


20 Oct 01 - 01:13 PM (#576348)
Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006
From: Linda Kelly

I would love to come provided the share prices recover by then! Philly sounds good or New England.


20 Oct 01 - 04:02 PM (#576414)
Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006
From: GUEST

Dont think Max's pad is big enough for us all...


20 Oct 01 - 04:31 PM (#576418)
Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006
From: Gareth

Buying a 747 might be feasable - but I don't think fat bearded blokes going for pilot training would be that popular at the moment.

Now to buy a tramp steamer - I think we could raise a crew !!

Gareth


20 Oct 01 - 05:17 PM (#576431)
Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006
From: McGrath of Harlow

Now this is the way we really should travel - Rafts- click on this to visit the site and read about the Transatlantic crossing...

And I vote we get together in Newfoundland.


20 Oct 01 - 05:22 PM (#576433)
Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006
From: The_one_and_only_Dai

...we could buy a coaster for cheap, and lay off the coast of ameri-cay waiting for merchant sea-my-en for to take their bou-un-tyyyyyyy.


20 Oct 01 - 05:54 PM (#576445)
Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006
From: catspaw49

Newfoundland? Geeziz Mac, we could take over Newfoundland! Hey!!! We could have a homeland, a sacred land for all 'Catters. Displace the Newfies and just call it ours and................hmmmm............that's been done hasn't it?

Spaw


20 Oct 01 - 06:08 PM (#576449)
Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006
From: bill\sables

What about Iceland, It would be the same difficulty for all of us except Scarpi


20 Oct 01 - 06:18 PM (#576459)
Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006
From: Linda Kelly

For cheapness and convenience Florida is probably best. Car hire /fly drive packages are reasonable and the younger Ducks could be let loose on Disneyworld!!!


20 Oct 01 - 06:24 PM (#576467)
Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006
From: Alice

I challenge you all to come to Montana... plenty of space out here.


20 Oct 01 - 06:31 PM (#576473)
Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006
From: catspaw49

I think you mentioned that before Bill and wouldn't THAT be a KICK?!?!?! I can imagine sending Skarpi a PM.................

**********************************************************

Hi Skarpi
Hope all is well and life is good. Always glad to see your posts at the 'Cat. And speaking of the 'Cat, we were thinking that some of us might come to see you and wanted to give you some lead time to set things up for it...like about 5 years lead time.

Really, it's more like quite a few, and we were wondering if you could do a little legwork on it before we get there. See, we're actually planning the 10 year anniversary of Mudcat to be in Iceland so what we need from you is to set up a few hundred rooms or places for us to stay......as cheap as you can too. Then, you'll need to work out some kind of food thing for a week or so for all of us and of course we have a lot with special diets so they'll PM you separately. Arrange some transportation too so we can get around.

Also, I don't know what the situation will be like by then in terms of travelling with instruments, so see if you can arrange for us to borrow a few hundred guitars, banjos, mandolins, accordions, melodeons, whistles, dulcimers (both types), dobros, and the like. Make at least half the guitars Martins and split up the rest between the other biggies.

Looking forward to it as I know you are too!!!

Spaw

**********************************************************

After he recovers from the heart attack, I figure he can still have plenty of time to get it together.

Spaw


20 Oct 01 - 06:32 PM (#576474)
Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006
From: Deda

How many are we talking about? We could reserve a hotel on the coast of Maine or Nova Scotia, or even Prince Edward Island, hold the thing in August, and let the kids go wandering around in pine forests or exploring tide pools along that fabulous rocky north Atlantic coast. We'd need a stage, but if we reserve a hotel it would have something like that. Personally I'd MUCH rather travel to Maine OR Nova Scotia in the summer than go to Florida. (OTOH, what do I know? I'm a newbie and I don't really sing, except as backup to my son or bro.) At my day job I sometimes help organize conferences; this would be quite do-able with this much lead time. My 2 denarii.


20 Oct 01 - 06:36 PM (#576479)
Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006
From: Dave the Gnome

Yeah! Iceland sure gets my vote! Cab we invite Bjork as well???

Seriously - wherever it may be I would love to support it.

Cheers

DtG


20 Oct 01 - 06:37 PM (#576480)
Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006
From: bigchuck

I know of a private lodge in the Adirondack high peaks that we might be able to rent reasonably after labor day.
Sandy


20 Oct 01 - 06:38 PM (#576483)
Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006
From: Susanne (skw)

I'd love to come but how long would the tramp steamer take from Hamburg and back? I only get 30 days off a year ... Maybe we could do it again in 2016 - I'm hoping to be retired by then!


20 Oct 01 - 06:43 PM (#576484)
Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006
From: bill\sables

It was just a wish that I had to have a giant Mudcat Gathering, probably the bigest folk festival in the world. There would be no need to pay any musicians or singers and I'm sure there would be plenty of sponsorship from major instrument makers, music organisations and food vendors. We could charter a plane from Europe, if we have enough, to keep costs down. My idea was East coast USA around Phily. and spring time or autumn would be a good time of year, not too hot or cold. Anyway it is worth thinking about.
Cheers Bill


20 Oct 01 - 06:54 PM (#576486)
Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006
From: Gareth

Thats it, I'am off to the attick to find my Grandfathers old sextant, I've got the dividers, and parallel rules.

One problem about Iceland, something tells me that beer is not obtainable there, can any Catter Confirm ?

SKW no problem on that, take the train to the tunnell, take another train to Liverpool, and to a chorus of LEAVING LIVERPOOL You can practise your pier head jump !

Alternatively try ACROSS THE WESTERN OCEAN

Gareth, in Bully Forbes mode !!


20 Oct 01 - 07:05 PM (#576496)
Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006
From: The_one_and_only_Dai

...What if some high-up European politoco mudcatter develops fascistic, imperialist tendencies? Then we could all get drafted and shipped over to join the EU invasion of the US via Canada (eh?) Timing might be difficult, but given a certain amount of inbuilt flexibility we might pull it off!


21 Oct 01 - 05:32 AM (#576661)
Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006
From: Linda Kelly

Dai, as you know, in Hull we are aiming for world domination -invading America will be high on our list of priorities and we will drag the rest of you along with us. Yes I see it now - a world where people will be going down the 'rurd' and made to shop in' British Herm Stures'!


21 Oct 01 - 06:27 AM (#576668)
Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006
From: The_one_and_only_Dai

er, ner... ;)


21 Oct 01 - 06:37 AM (#576671)
Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006
From: Matthew Edwards

Poor Skarpi! If the Mudcatters were to invade Iceland it would double the population at one go. It would probably make for a wonderful new saga (preferably without all the tit-for-tat killings). Actually I can just begin to visualise some Mudcatters as characters in Njal's Saga; Joe Offer as the wise Njal himself.

I do love Gareth's of taking a tramp steamer (do such things still exist?), and john in Hull could navigate us to see Nick Root in Newfoundland, or to Nova Scotia (watch out George!). Something to look forward to in 5 years time.


21 Oct 01 - 08:02 AM (#576697)
Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006
From: Gareth

Actually with us Welsh present the tit-for-tat slayings would probably start again.

Now theres a thought for a BS or Literary thread, "The Mudcatters Saga" with shades of "the Mabginon". Or does this mean a write of "The Flying Mudcatter"
"I'am the only tar that's ever jumped ship,
From Joe Offers crew".

Gareth


21 Oct 01 - 10:19 AM (#576729)
Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006
From: Diva

Well after Llanstock the wanderlust is on me..... it sounds like a brill idea and if I start saving now...


21 Oct 01 - 12:09 PM (#576766)
Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull

I have just looked at a map of America, it looks like a really big place! Were in America does mickey mouse live?


21 Oct 01 - 01:27 PM (#576792)
Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006
From: catspaw49

Originally he lived in California, but he has pretty well relocated his home and base of operations to Orlando, Florida.

Spaw


21 Oct 01 - 05:19 PM (#576915)
Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006
From: DougR

Susanne: If you left Hamburg today, you probably could get there by 2016!

DougR


21 Oct 01 - 05:31 PM (#576923)
Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006
From: Susan from California

The beer thing re Iceland is true, at least it was last time I checked (20+ years ago). Tourists are allowed to bring some in (a 12 pack?) for personal consumption, bit you cannot buy it there. You can buy the hard stuff, as I recall, beer was thought to be the bane of the working class. :-)


21 Oct 01 - 05:36 PM (#576924)
Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006
From: mooman

Count me in!!

How about Nova Scotia as some have suggested?

Best regards

mooman


21 Oct 01 - 05:37 PM (#576925)
Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006
From: Gareth

Thank Susan from Calf.

Thats it then. Icelands out !!

Gareth


21 Oct 01 - 05:47 PM (#576931)
Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006
From: Mrs.Duck

I quite agree Gareth-no beer - too scary.
Can't we just drive wagons out in to the desert and put them in a circle?


21 Oct 01 - 05:51 PM (#576934)
Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006
From: Linda Kelly

er-there's a desert near Pontefract Jane?


21 Oct 01 - 05:54 PM (#576937)
Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006
From: The_one_and_only_Dai

If beer is a mjor factor in the equation, then there are only two places we could possibly consider. The UK, and Belgium. I vote for the UK :)


21 Oct 01 - 05:57 PM (#576939)
Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006
From: Gareth

Dai - are there sheep in Flanders ?

Gareth


21 Oct 01 - 06:04 PM (#576944)
Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006
From: Mrs.Duck

You mean there isn't Linda?


21 Oct 01 - 06:06 PM (#576945)
Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006
From: Noreen

...people have been known to get lost there never to be seen again... all that was left was a faint whiff of licqorice..


21 Oct 01 - 06:52 PM (#576988)
Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006
From: Amergin

Well...we could always get ahold of the former Aryan Nations Compound in Hayden Lake...and we could have our own armies...would train them in morris dancing...and the gurads could all be carrying banjos and bodhrans and kazoos....no one would dare come near us...


21 Oct 01 - 06:55 PM (#576994)
Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006
From: DougR

Mrs. Duck: we got lots of desert! You got to have your own wagon though. Come on out!


21 Oct 01 - 07:09 PM (#577006)
Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006
From: The_one_and_only_Dai

Sut mae, Gar, there are sheep everywhere mate. Come and join the expat community, why don't you indeed! :)


21 Oct 01 - 07:13 PM (#577012)
Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull

Hoe canyou hav a folk festibal with no beer? if ther is no beer i an not going.john


21 Oct 01 - 07:30 PM (#577028)
Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006
From: The_one_and_only_Dai

What kind of guitar do you have to play to make yourself type that badly? ;)


21 Oct 01 - 07:39 PM (#577032)
Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006
From: Robin2

Oh boy, Nova Scotia sounds great (gives me an excuse to go there)

Lousiville KY is the United Parcel Service's International hub, and I hear they are booking REALLY cheap passenger fares, if you don't mind flying with packages. Does this put Louisivlle in the running for a place to have it?

But Philly is what I can afford, and have friends I can stay with there....tell me it's gonna happen, I'd love to come!

Robin


21 Oct 01 - 07:40 PM (#577033)
Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006
From: Midchuck

I like Alice's idea, also bigchuck's. 'Tho the place bc is thinking of wouldn't be big enough unless a lot of people brought tents.

By the way, there is good beer in the US. Lots of it. It's just mainly made by small breweries, that don't advertise nationally the way the big dishwater operations do.

Peter. (who saw people in the UK drinking Budweiser! For Gawd's sake, why?)


21 Oct 01 - 07:43 PM (#577034)
Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull

I have just read my last post here, in this thread.I think the keys on my keyboarf are too close together!


21 Oct 01 - 07:45 PM (#577038)
Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006
From: The_one_and_only_Dai

Jonh, I thnki that shlkdu hve read 'Kybard'.


21 Oct 01 - 07:50 PM (#577043)
Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006
From: bill\sables

You must excuse John in Hull It is late and he is probably pissed.
Bill


21 Oct 01 - 07:50 PM (#577044)
Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull

this is goinf off topic, who is going to Ameeica?


21 Oct 01 - 07:56 PM (#577045)
Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull

Bill is righjt, I been drinking beer.john


21 Oct 01 - 07:57 PM (#577047)
Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006
From: The_one_and_only_Dai

I'd like to point out that I am at least as pissed as john, and my typing is prefect. And you're right, I'd love to go to the colonies *ahem* the former colonies, but unfortunately have little to offer in the way of practical or considered opinion, for a change. But FWIW, count me in.


21 Oct 01 - 08:07 PM (#577052)
Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006
From: WyoWoman

I vote Yes, and I vote East Coast, U.S. of A. I can figure out a way to get meself up there, for sure. Although Alice's idea of Montana would certainly provide an experience even only a few Americans have had. But much as I love that region, New England would be easier to reach and probably has a higher concentration of Mudcateers, yes?

Maybe by then I'll actually be able to play the guitar at the SAME TIME I sing, and in FRONT of PEOPLE!!! Whoo-hoo!

We can start making little 'possum doodads now to sell as concessions, along with the usual kissing booths and foot-rub booths and Oh-my-what-are-you-going-to-do-with-THAT booths.

ww


21 Oct 01 - 08:08 PM (#577053)
Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006
From: brid widder

possibly...hopefully....maybe even probably...any chance of a lift John?


21 Oct 01 - 08:16 PM (#577062)
Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull

I''m too pissed to drive, sorry!


22 Oct 01 - 05:35 AM (#577231)
Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006
From: alanww

I can vouch for the fact that there are some great little homebrew pubs in New England, which serve English-type ale. And the fall is rather spectacular! I seem to recall a wonderfully-tasting porter in a little pub somewhere in Vermont (once it had been allowed to warm up a bit!). I was there on a morris tour with the Chameleonic Morris Men in 1999 and the local morris sides (and folkies generally) were very hospitable. We had a great time and were there for 10 days - you would need to plan for at least a week I think.

Ale, ale glorious ale, served up in pewter it tells its own tale!"
Alan


22 Oct 01 - 06:24 AM (#577243)
Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006
From: Mooh

My choices would be Cape Breton or Newfoundland, not too large an unban centre (if at all), I'd actually like to travel though southern Ontario would be oh so convenient.

This is a great idea!

Mooh.


22 Oct 01 - 06:33 AM (#577247)
Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006
From: Ella who is Sooze

I'd prefer somewhere along the East coast... I like the East coast areas some real nice places - loads to see... Florida....erm... YUK!

Sorry that's a personal yuk, not meant to be contraversial, but that's what I think...

East coast is fairly reasonable (flight prices) to get to too.

E


22 Oct 01 - 07:10 AM (#577258)
Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006
From: Tone d' F

I'm game and will proberably bring ferret and Jon A just make it somewhere hot.

Lousiville KY the United Parcel Service's International hub sounds warm do we travel with or in the parcels


22 Oct 01 - 11:13 AM (#577353)
Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006
From: Fortunato

Camp Ramblewood in Darlington, MD. Click here


22 Oct 01 - 11:27 AM (#577365)
Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006
From: Llanfair

I don't care where we go in the US, as long as we go and meet lots and lots of our American friends.
Cheers, Bron.


22 Oct 01 - 11:39 AM (#577375)
Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006
From: Troll

Take it from the troll,folks, you DON'T want to be in Florida in the summer.
Trust me on this one, OK?

troll


22 Oct 01 - 12:58 PM (#577424)
Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006
From: DougR

How about we all move in on Kendall in Maine? :>)

DougR


22 Oct 01 - 01:20 PM (#577433)
Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006
From: Amergin

Sounds like a grand idea, Doug...and maybe if we are lucky we get to meet lots of the colourful folk up there...like this one guy (I wonder if Kendall knows him) by the name of Gordon Bok....anyone ever hear of him?


22 Oct 01 - 02:46 PM (#577486)
Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006
From: Alice

Maine sounds good. Kendall, are you ready to be invaded?


22 Oct 01 - 03:36 PM (#577516)
Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006
From: Noreen

You've got time to build that extension as you always intended, Kendall...


22 Oct 01 - 05:52 PM (#577597)
Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006
From: Mrs.Duck

We Ducks don't do hot so Vermont sounds great but much as I love Mickey Mouse I could not cope with Florida (went at Easter once and that was bad enough!)


22 Oct 01 - 06:00 PM (#577602)
Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006
From: Diva

I don't do hot either......so I'm with the Ducks


22 Oct 01 - 07:33 PM (#577702)
Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006
From: Snuffy

Couldn't we take over something like Mystic Seaport for a week in the early spring?


22 Oct 01 - 09:57 PM (#577800)
Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006
From: Charlie Baum

Camp Ramblewood is the closest thing to West Chester, PA, home of Max and the Mudcat server. Near Philadelphia. Also close to Washington, DC, which is probably the biggest conglomeration of Mudcatters. Third weekend in October! Fall colors are incredible then. (You'll invade the FSGW Getaway.) It'll cost somewhere between $130 and $150 per person for the weekend, including all meals and a bed in a group cabin. (Your travel expenses are extra, but nearby Baltimore has cheap flights to many places.) Camp's overnight capacity is almost 500, and with daytrippers, the numbers can go into the thousands. (They're planning a BIG folk festival there next May.)

You can practice by coming next year and the year after, if you can afford it, or save up your travel dough for 2006.

--Charlie Baum


22 Oct 01 - 10:03 PM (#577804)
Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006
From: MMario

and it would be worth every penny!


22 Oct 01 - 10:22 PM (#577816)
Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull

Getaway sounds good Charlie, how much is $150 in proper money?


22 Oct 01 - 10:32 PM (#577823)
Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006
From: Charlie Baum

Not sure what you consider proper money.

150 USDollars = 168.316 Euros = 105.260 UKpounds


22 Oct 01 - 10:37 PM (#577829)
Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull

Thanks Charlie, UK pounds are proper money, Britain has decided not to use Euros!


22 Oct 01 - 10:38 PM (#577831)
Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006
From: catspaw49

Nope.........If we can pull this off at all, it'd be a Catter function. Let's sat we pull 150 Catters......The actual FSGW schedule and all will be boogered up beyond recognition. Besides, a lot of folks are going to be getting together in everchanging "packs" and I can see some unfortunate situations developing.

Then again, I'm probably wrong. Skip it.

Spaw


23 Oct 01 - 08:10 AM (#577965)
Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006
From: Ella who is Sooze

Agrees with Troll...

Florida - summer...

PHEW! 100+ in the shade!!! nuh uh!

Not for me. Done that, wilted for over two weeks. Double nuh huh!


23 Oct 01 - 09:05 AM (#577994)
Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006
From: MMario

'spaw - a lot of FSGW folks are closet catters anyway - it would work.


23 Oct 01 - 09:10 AM (#577999)
Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006
From: pattyClink

I'm with Deda (Maine or Nova Scotia or PEI)or bigchuck (Adirondacks).

Wild horses singing folk songs could not get me to Orlando!


23 Oct 01 - 10:52 AM (#578069)
Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006
From: GUEST,mgarvey@pacifier.com

I vote for East Coast US..Philly sounds great..the main thing is to be near airports that have good flights...getting to Canada can be pretty expensive...if it was a bit more toward Boston, people who wanted to go on to Newfoundland or Maine could find flights, ferries, etc...well, from Portland to Nova Scotia there is a ferry. And having something easy to get to from an airport is also important.....flying from Germany say and then havingt to rent a car and drive a few hours might not be fun with jet lag. mg


23 Oct 01 - 12:03 PM (#578120)
Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006
From: Uncle_DaveO

Midchuck said:

Peter. (who saw people in the UK drinking Budweiser! For Gawd's sake, why?)

Because they don't like BEER, that's why!

Dave Oesterreich


23 Oct 01 - 01:23 PM (#578160)
Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006
From: Eric the Viking

What time of year,? Easter is about the only chance I would get, unless it goes on in one of the half terms, but then it becomes a midweek meeting. Last week in August is reasonably sound.


23 Oct 01 - 02:52 PM (#578236)
Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006
From: Liz the Squeak

Bratling wants to come, so do I!

LTS


23 Oct 01 - 03:01 PM (#578246)
Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006
From: Steve in Idaho

Troll is correct - Florida is HOT in the summer. I like the Philly idea. Anywhere up there in October would be a riot! And the Fall colors are incredible as I recall.

I think this would be a good idea.

Steve


23 Oct 01 - 05:25 PM (#578305)
Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006
From: SharonA

Eric: If it's to be in the Philly area, it probably shouldn't be the last weekend in August, since that is the weekend of the Philadelphia Folk Festival. The local folkies will be flocking to that as well as putting up their friends from out of town, and the non-local folkies will be either camping out at the Fest or clogging up the local motels, so it might be hard to find a place to stay in the area that weekend.

Actually, I'd vote for September in the Philly area: the weather is less likely to be terribly chilly, and the local folk scene is "between" the summer festival season and the regular autumn-spring concert season. June's nice, too.


23 Oct 01 - 06:01 PM (#578310)
Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006
From: Burke

I like the Adirondack idea myself, but it should probably be closer to a transportation center. Think that would mean Boston, NYC, Philly, or DC. Berkshires? Catskills? Poconos?

How many people are teachers or students who would need a June-Aug. date rather than something earlier or later?

Here's a 2006 Calendar.


24 Oct 01 - 09:02 AM (#578639)
Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006
From: Allan C.

It seems to me that if there were folks coming across the pond (expecially for the first time) to the U.S., they would want to have access to other nearby attractions in order to do the tourist thing when not at the gathering. Reasonable proximity to an international airport could be an important factor as well. As much as I would want to see such a gathering happen in the western part of the States, (knowing that there are 'Catters out there who are quite nearly as geographically separated from eastern U.S. folk events as the 'Catters in the U.K.,) I think that Ramblewood seems to fill the bill. It has lots of sleeping space, seems to tolerate tent-campers as well, has a huge central meeting area, large-enough dining facilities and plenty of "break-out" areas for workshops, etc.. Besides, the grounds are really quite pretty.

Another consideration is that if we were expecting any sort of commercial support from music-oriented companies, they would be more likely to support something that is located not too far off the beaten track. The Getaway has so far been a rather un-commercialized event; but something like what we are considering might need to have more involvement along those lines to help subsidize costs.

Autumn is generally the best time for any such gathering because the temperatures are usually more tolerable and rain is less of a possibility (I think) than it is in spring. Besides, as has been pointed out, the whole area is really quite beautiful at that time of year.

If we planned to hold the international gathering just before the annual Getaway, some of the visitors might possibly be able to stay over for that (unless, of course, the two events were somehow combined [hint, hint]).


24 Oct 01 - 10:24 AM (#578692)
Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006
From: Cllr

What if some high-up European politoco mudcatter develops fascistic, imperialist tendencies?

What are you insinuating? and what do you mean If?

Cllr


24 Oct 01 - 10:58 AM (#578717)
Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006
From: The_one_and_only_Dai

touché, my honourable friend... are you volunteering for this excellent plan of mine then??


24 Oct 01 - 11:56 AM (#578767)
Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006
From: Eric the Viking

I'm still stuck to school holidays whatever the time. The main summer break-I'd never get leave of absence from the Mrs and kids- gettting to the states will be a hard enough job-they all want to go!(Also can't get time off school!) I'm not one for tourist things unless it's Civil war sites. Looks like I'll never get there.

Unless I'm not working then, having won the lotto!!!


24 Oct 01 - 12:14 PM (#578779)
Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006
From: DeanC

If you want to seriously consider this idea then you need to think about the following. You will have to reserve someplace by putting up some money and guaranteeing some amount. It's not clear to me that Mudcat can do that on its own. For that reason you may wish to more seriously consider the FSGW Getaway at Camp Ramblewood as the vehicle for this gathering. FSGW already fronts and guarantees the cash. They also provide insurance, a sound system, and lots of logistical support for the event. I don't think FSGW would mind at all.

Camp Ramblewood is with a couple of hours of Washington, Baltimore, and Philadelphia (only about an hour from West Chester, PA, the home of Mudcat) and 3 to 4 hours from New York. That gives people plenty of flight options with reasonable drives to the camp. The only real downside I can see to using the Getaway is that it is during the school year, and those of us that have kids might find it a little more difficult to deal with that. There is plenty of room for kids, and they have as good a time as the adults according to my son.


24 Oct 01 - 12:16 PM (#578782)
Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006
From: annamill

I wonder where I'll be and what I'll be doing 6 years from now?? I hope to be in La Jolla, Cali way before then...

Well, where ever I am, I'll be there. I think Ramblewood is a great idea and we should set up a Getaway 2006 fund to help our friends who wouldn't be able to get there otherwise, get there. If we start now, we could have a pretty penny by then.

We would need a collector, and an investor to increase any monies collected. A pro if possible. Of course we could just throw it in the bank and get 2% or 3%.

Many more could be there.

I would like to have the gathering separate from our FSGW meeting though. I would like to see it all Mudcatters.

Great idea that has been thrown around for about two years now. Let's do it!

Love, Annamill


24 Oct 01 - 12:21 PM (#578788)
Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006
From: catspaw49

Well Dean, as I just posted on the other thread about interaction problems, I don't think it's worth the risk to the relationship.

The two events might work out within some time proximity of each other or not. But judging from the responses on the other thread.......I still think it's no a good idea.

Sorry Allan.......But then again, my track record for attendance at these things is pretty gawdawful so maybe I need to keep my mouth shut........too late for that...

Spaw


24 Oct 01 - 01:01 PM (#578817)
Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006
From: GUEST,Noreen

annamill, I wonder where I'll be and what I'll be doing 6 years from now??

thinking back with happy memories of the previous year's Mudcat World Gathering, I hope! *grin*


24 Oct 01 - 01:11 PM (#578825)
Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006
From: annamill

Tee Hee! Me too, as well as floating in a cool ocean in February enjoying the heat from a warm sun. California dreamin'.

L.A.


24 Oct 01 - 01:36 PM (#578845)
Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006
From: GUEST,Noreen

*sigh* Maybe we'll all come to you then?


24 Oct 01 - 01:51 PM (#578858)
Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006
From: Charlie Baum

Even if you want to do a weekend separate from the Getaway, Ramblewood might be a good facility, providing the weather isn't too cold. (For a cold-weather place, may I suggest a seaside hotel in off-season, where the rates will be cheap? Places on the [New] Jersey shore, or Ocean City, MD come to mind.) And as Dean noted above, there are logistics to be dealt with; insurance, and cash to guarantee the rental (and cover shortfalls, if attendance isn't what it's supposed to be).

--Charlie Baum

Note to Erik the Viking: US Civil War sites such as Gettysburg, Antietam, and Harper's Ferry are within an hour-and-a-half's drive of the area.


24 Oct 01 - 05:15 PM (#578975)
Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006
From: Burke

Are we talking something just on a weekend? With this amount of lead time & people coming a long way, why not make it a real vacation, longer & during the week, or a least running into the week. If we wanted to coordinate with FSGW, make it Mon.-Thurs. the week following. I bet the rates would be cheaper then as well.


25 Oct 01 - 01:34 PM (#579602)
Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006
From: GUEST,Ickle in Whitby

I realise at this moment in time, that I need to rush to the nearest Safeways and buy one of those giant bottles of Whiskey drink it in one go, and then start putting pound coins in it. Oh the sacrifice!!!!


25 Oct 01 - 06:42 PM (#579880)
Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006
From: Noreen

I'll help you out, Ickle... (cybercafés have come to Whitby????)


25 Oct 01 - 07:09 PM (#579910)
Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006
From: Jeri

I think Ramblewood would be a good idea, but not Getaway weekend. There will undoubtedly be a lot of Mudcat-related stuff, and it causes some hard feelings now. It would be worse with more Mudcatters.

I DO think we should invite folks from FSGW, as they've generously opened their doors to us for 3 years now. It would be just plain rude not to, and I happen to like a lot of them and their music!


25 Oct 01 - 08:33 PM (#579964)
Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006
From: MMario

I agree.


26 Oct 01 - 09:26 AM (#580266)
Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006
From: The_one_and_only_Dai

If by some chance it was on the West Coast, couldn't we rent this 'Bohemian Grove' place I've heard about? Sounds like groups of friends take trips out there quite often, for 2-week holidays. Hmmmmm?

Dai - quoting from the Liber Fubar again


26 Oct 01 - 09:36 AM (#580277)
Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006
From: Fibula Mattock

Just a suggestion - off-season coastal towns were mentioned, but how about out-of-season ski resorts? I was at a conference in one before. They'd be a good price and could hold a load of people.


26 Oct 01 - 10:43 AM (#580352)
Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006
From: Linda Kelly

But I don't ski.....


26 Oct 01 - 11:20 AM (#580379)
Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006
From: catspaw49

That's OK....Off season there ain't no snow! Well maybe just a bit depending on the place..........Unless the ski lodge is in the flatlands of course where there ain't no hills........

Spaw


02 Feb 02 - 11:59 AM (#640642)
Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull

I think this is a good idea, could we all put money together and hire a plane? How much will it be roughly? If people are travelling from all over the world could we go for a full week?


02 Feb 02 - 03:04 PM (#640793)
Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006
From: Rolfyboy6

Just as an addition/restatement, there are multiple areas of the Mid-Atlantic states which have the necessary airport access, the lodging, the semi-rural or rural environment, and access to worthwhile tourist facilities and sites similar to Camp Ramblewood. The Poconos come to mind. The Ramblewood site sounds great if it is do-able, and there are others. Sounds like the criteria needed are being worked on here now. Also, about heat: It can be dog-day hot anywhere inland in North America during June thru October. UK Mudcatters might discover why beer is cold here (it goes with a damp t-shirt).


04 Jun 02 - 06:23 PM (#723093)
Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006
From: GUEST

refresh


05 Jun 02 - 12:52 AM (#723310)
Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006
From: Big Mick

You folks need a good organizer?

Mick


05 Jun 02 - 09:51 AM (#723506)
Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006
From: Peg

Nova Scotia sounds great.

I agree with those who say that it is necessary to have the location be near a major airport, to keep flying prices down and make ground travel less problematic. There is a ferry which travels from Portland, Maine to Nova Scotia which, by 2006, will be accessible via commuter train from Boston! So there's a thought. Nova Scotia is rather a long drive and I hear the ferry is great! (you can bring your car on it, too, if you want).

I assume most people will want to do this in summer or fall; I think the Northeast US/Nova Scotia would be the best bet weather-wise.

Autumn is more likely off-season for Nova Scotia. I think we simply need to reserve a hotel to get group rates, and maybe try to find a beach or public park nearby where we could have outdoor barbecues and picnics and sing-arounds...also the hotel should have function rooms that we could have indoor music events in, as well as a room for merchants to sell their CDs, t-shirts, etc. and smaller rooms if anyone wants to hold workshops or specific music events during the week. (I'd guess most people will merely want to socialize and have small song circles so the "organized" events should be kept to a minimum).

those are my thoughts, so far.


05 Jun 02 - 11:00 AM (#723548)
Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006
From: Peter K (Fionn)

If it was Nova Scotia I'd definitely make the effort. But Ramblewood seems to be getting the vote, which sounds pretty good too. If that's not possible, and it's during vacations (September?) it would be worth checking some colleges, many of which could provide all accomodation (including camping) on site, along with a first-class auditorium.


05 Jun 02 - 11:41 AM (#723587)
Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006
From: Amergin

here is part 2 of this thread: click here


05 Jun 02 - 01:43 PM (#723685)
Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006
From: annamill

Hi. I'm all for the FSGW Maryland place. It is a perfect setup for this type of an affair. I believe this was discussed while Bill was over here and even then it seemed to be the consensus.

I've bought a 34' boat and Glenn and I have named it "The Getaway". That is what we call the FSGW event.

Love, Annamill


30 May 05 - 05:06 PM (#1496258)
Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006
From: Sorcha

Refresh!


30 May 05 - 05:08 PM (#1496261)
Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006
From: Sorcha

OK, is somebody going to Organize this or is it dead?


30 May 05 - 05:18 PM (#1496274)
Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006
From: mooman

I'm sure this has been mentioned in a more recent thread. Wasn't the last idea somewhere in Nova Scotia?

Peace

moo


30 May 05 - 07:25 PM (#1496353)
Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006
From: skarpi

Spaw no proplem , we could arrange some of this and the beer
it´s flooding here in Iceland , 20years ago comon.....
times change you know you can get as much beer you like .
Iceland out yeh right ....hahahahahaha

all the best Skarpi Iceland.


30 May 05 - 07:50 PM (#1496369)
Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006
From: GUEST,Don(Wyziwyg)T

East coast USA, or Iceland (but only at the height of summer), either works for me. I retire in Feb '06, and, if a charter from England were cheap enow, I'd love to come.

Keep me posted by PM, please.

Don T.

PS. Back door, as guest, 'cos the front's locked up agin.

DT.


31 May 05 - 01:52 AM (#1496510)
Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006
From: Liz the Squeak

SO WHAT IS HAPPENING?

I've just about got Manitas to a point where he has said, yes, we can go to America next year, but we need to know when and where!

I can bring copies of the Just Desserts cookbook with me..... if that's any enticement?

LTS


31 May 05 - 04:14 AM (#1496555)
Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006
From: skarpi

Last time i saw this thread it was Novia Scotia??
All the best Skarpi Iceland.


31 May 05 - 11:54 AM (#1496687)
Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006
From: mooman

See...I got an echo back from Iceland!

Peace

moo (hoping to come wherever it is)


31 May 05 - 12:35 PM (#1496712)
Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006
From: jacqui.c

Sounds like a great idea - I know that there was some talk, after the last Getaway, of arranging a Mudcat meet.

So far as organising is concerned Big Mick's good that way and I would be happy to help out in any way I can.

Based on accessability for as many Mudcatters as possible it sounds as if the East Coast USA is getting to be favourite. Do we have agreement? We will need to scout around for sites, like NOW, to get anything for next year.

Who's really serious about this?


31 May 05 - 03:42 PM (#1496807)
Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006
From: Don(Wyziwyg)T

Me for one, Jacqui,

But the pension is small, and the cost would need to be fairly low.

Don T.


31 May 05 - 03:50 PM (#1496813)
Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006
From: GUEST,Peter Woodruff

I wish that we could all meet in Nova Scotia...because we could all see how life should be.

Peter


31 May 05 - 04:24 PM (#1496844)
Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006
From: Liz the Squeak

If wishes were horses we'd all be on Derby winners.....

WE NEED CONFIRMED PLACES PLEASE!

:TS


31 May 05 - 05:24 PM (#1496894)
Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006
From: skarpi

Alright then I´ll sail the the same way the vikings did to
Newfoundland ....... on a plane though I don´t have any ship.
Novia Scotia..here we come I´ll talk to the Rose´s in the band.
All the best Skarpi Iceland, although it coult be In Iceland
but.......it will be some Gathering in the future i hope.

Slán.


31 May 05 - 05:47 PM (#1496910)
Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006
From: jacqui.c

Peter - are there any suitable sites with sufficient accomodation at reasonable cost in Nova Scotia? Can you give details?


31 May 05 - 08:00 PM (#1496992)
Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006
From: Sorcha

OK, looks like Peter is signing up to be the Organizer!!! LOL


31 May 05 - 11:02 PM (#1497106)
Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006
From: number 6

Nova Scotia sounds good to me!


01 Jun 05 - 08:22 AM (#1497296)
Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006
From: jacqui.c

Shopping list for a site:-

Accommodation for a good number of people - we really need a rough head count of who is genuinely interested and will be able to make it so let's see some posts please.

Enough meeting areas to set up different workshops and gigs, and space for a larger concert.

Good access to eateries or on site catering.

Provision of space for those who wish to use RV's or tents.

Relatively easy access from major airports.


Anyone want to add to the list?

Anyone got any other ideas for a venue and, if so, can you check out sites in your area?

It may be getting a bit late in the day to really get anything off the ground now but I reckon it's worth trying.


01 Jun 05 - 08:50 AM (#1497311)
Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006
From: kendall

Amergin, Gordon Bok is my oldest best friend in the world, and in order to keep it that way, I'm not even going to suggest what you asked!
John, Mickey Mouse lives in the White House, Washington DC.

Wherever you have it, we will be there.


02 Jun 05 - 04:35 AM (#1497978)
Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006
From: Liz the Squeak

Jacqui - I see the flaw in your reasoning already. People won't sign up for a place until they have a definate place to sign up for.... and they prefer to be given a choice of dates. I would suggest picking three or four date options, asking people to sign up against those dates and then picking the one most convenient to the most folks.

I for one, am not too bothered where or when, I just want to be there and will take Limpit out of school if necessary so she can come too! The opportunity to travel never came to me until I was in my 20s, all her little friends zoom off to Ibiza & Tenerife and she gets to go to Whitby and Wimborne! You just have to promise to teach her some American history/geography so I can put it down as an educational visit!

LTS


02 Jun 05 - 04:45 AM (#1497988)
Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006
From: Catherine Jayne

Is the Gathering going to be be near the Getaway dates next year??...we are going to the Getaway and would love to be able to attend the World Gathering too....although it might come to chosing between one or the other!...any dates yet??...


02 Jun 05 - 05:26 AM (#1498010)
Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006
From: Liz the Squeak

Pack a big case Khatt - I'll be in it with Limpit!

LTS


02 Jun 05 - 07:48 PM (#1498680)
Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006
From: jacqui.c

Problem is, until we have a rough idea of who wants to go it and suggestions for actual venues it isn't really possible to give any dates, as we could not be certain of getting a venue for that date.

So far there seems to be very little interest - or 'catters just haven't got into this thread. You might be best off, Liz, coming to the 2006 Getaway with Limpit.