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New Song Book Available soon-Southern Songster

02 Jun 20 - 12:26 PM (#4056720)
Subject: New Song Book Available soon...
From: RTim

SOUTHERN SONGSTER
ENGLISH FOLK SONGS FROM THE HAMMOND AND GARDINER MANUSCRIPTS
Selected by Nick Dow
Musical notation by Cohen Braithwaite-Kilcoyne
With notes by Steve Gardham
The Hammond and Gardiner manuscripts are amongst the most important nineteenth-century collections of English folk song.

PRE-ORDER – AVAILABLE IN JUNE
£15.00
https://francisboutle.co.uk/products/southern-songster/?fbclid=IwAR28KTHsFQdPjptlTqxBOzdd2_-wrSvM2xGwnza_nZUyYpLpHuCgMvSJBn8

It is over fifty years since Frank Purslow edited Marrow Bones, the influential book of folk songs collected by Robert and Henry Hammond and George Gardiner in Hampshire and Dorset between 1905 and 1908. Purslow went on to produce The Wanton Seed, The Constant Lovers and The Foggy Dew (the last two reprinted in 2017 as Southern Harvest) – 350 songs in all out of a total of 2,400. Southern Songster makes available a further 100 songs and ballads that have not seen the light of day for over a century. There are some unique tunes and texts, as well as interesting versions of songs already visited by Purslow.
The musical notation has been supplied by Cohen Braithwaite Kilcoyne, and the song notes have been supplied by Steve Gardham who has added considerably to our knowledge of these important nineteenth-century collections, while Tim Radford introduces ten chanties.
Above all this book is a collection of songs to to be sung and we hope that the new generation of singers who are raising the flag for traditional folk song will find our volume as important as the invaluable works of the late Frank Purslow.


02 Jun 20 - 10:20 PM (#4056826)
Subject: RE: New Song Book Available soon...
From: RTim

Some one must have a comment...? But this brings up to the top again..

Tim Radford


03 Jun 20 - 03:06 AM (#4056837)
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From: Jack Campin

Stellar cast of people involved in producing it. Should be great.


03 Jun 20 - 03:48 AM (#4056841)
Subject: RE: New Song Book Available soon...
From: GUEST,guest (Dawn)

ordered!


03 Jun 20 - 08:00 AM (#4056879)
Subject: RE: New Song Book Available soon...
From: Steve Gardham

Still a bit of proofing needed but a matter of a couple of weeks should see it off. Too kind, Jack! But thanks.

Thanks for the heads up, Tim.


03 Jun 20 - 08:16 AM (#4056880)
Subject: RE: New Song Book Available soon...
From: Jim Carroll

Looking forward to it - it seems great value considering it's importance
One of these days someone will tackle the Grainger collection - and, dare one suggest, make a better job of the BBC project
These collections are essential to our understanding of our song heritage
Is there going to be a hardback edition - I can see this being very used ?
Thanks
Jim


03 Jun 20 - 08:27 AM (#4056881)
Subject: RE: New Song Book Available soon...
From: DMcG

Also ordered


03 Jun 20 - 05:51 PM (#4057032)
Subject: RE: New Song Book Available soon...
From: Steve Gardham

Nick said something about the previous volume Southern Songster getting another run-off.

The only one that I know is still available is Marrow Bones. EFDSS have several copies for sale I'm told. Although we worked together on the notes, Malcolm's detailed stamp is marked all over it.


03 Jun 20 - 06:32 PM (#4057037)
Subject: RE: New Song Book Available soon...
From: RTim

I believe The Wanton Seed has been given a new printing.....

Tim Radford


05 Jun 20 - 04:45 AM (#4057378)
Subject: RE: New Song Book Available soon...
From: GUEST,Nick Dow

It is worth mentioning that if you do not read music, every single song has a Midi file available. Click on the file and it plays the tune. They are being submitted to the Full English Website under each song, or you can have them from me as a transfer when the book is purchased.
The book has been a long time coming but I think it will be worth it.


05 Jun 20 - 10:21 AM (#4057469)
Subject: RE: New Song Book Available soon...
From: RTim

Good News Nick...How will they be indexed on the Full English site - ie. if a song is made of from more than one source...which source song will they be under..??

Tim Radford (and looking forward to see all...)


05 Jun 20 - 11:37 AM (#4057487)
Subject: RE: New Song Book Available soon...
From: GUEST,Nick Dow

The best way would be to search by singer and Roud number, in advanced search, then scroll down the result to the Midi.
The gentleman who looks after the Midi files for the Full English lives in Australia. We submitted the files to him in the acceptable format about two months ago. I have no idea if they have been attached on the website as yet. I'll have a look when I can.
Nick


05 Jun 20 - 02:05 PM (#4057522)
Subject: RE: New Song Book Available soon...
From: Steve Gardham

Tim, presumably the midi file will be attached to whoever's version we took the tune from. That seems reasonable. Although some texts, as in previous volumes, have been collations, the tunes are all single source.


05 Jun 20 - 03:01 PM (#4057532)
Subject: RE: New Song Book Available soon-Southern Songster
From: RTim

Steve....(and Nick).....When I wrote I was not thinking as clearly as I should have...Yes, your answer is now obvious to me....and I also had a peek at the pre-print copy I have and looked at who provided the tunes for each song.....
All publicity is good publicity.....

Tim Radford


05 Jun 20 - 06:00 PM (#4057579)
Subject: RE: New Song Book Available soon-Southern Songster
From: Steve Gardham

Just had a peek at the cover. Lovely woodcut of what I think is a cuckoo but I'd prefer a blackbird just because my favourite songster is he.


05 Jun 20 - 07:15 PM (#4057591)
Subject: RE: New Song Book Available soon-Southern Songster
From: GUEST,Nick Dow

Clive tells me it's a song thrush. Advance sales so far are encouraging.
Good News.


05 Jun 20 - 07:21 PM (#4057592)
Subject: RE: New Song Book Available soon-Southern Songster
From: Joe Offer

I've bought books from this publisher before, and their service to the US is very good. For me, the price of the book was £15.00, plus £7.00 for shipping here to California.


06 Jun 20 - 02:55 AM (#4057610)
Subject: RE: New Song Book Available soon-Southern Songster
From: Jim Carroll

I asked earlier if it would be issued in hard-back form
Jim


06 Jun 20 - 03:59 AM (#4057613)
Subject: RE: New Song Book Available soon-Southern Songster
From: GUEST,Nick Dow

Sorry Jim so you did. I think at the moment with things as they are we have to test the water, financially before we dive in. Then we have to see how the book is received. Your input as well as others will be valued. Then we can decide on the viability of a further run.
kind regards
Nick


06 Jun 20 - 05:03 AM (#4057617)
Subject: RE: New Song Book Available soon-Southern Songster
From: Jim Carroll

Thanks Nick
I'll gat a paperback for now but I would guess I'll need a hardback
Good luck with it
Jim


06 Jun 20 - 05:28 AM (#4057618)
Subject: RE: New Song Book Available soon-Southern Songster
From: Reinhard

Have the previous books The Wanton Seed and Southern Harvest been released as hardbacks? I can't remember having seen them in this format.


06 Jun 20 - 08:49 AM (#4057646)
Subject: RE: New Song Book Available soon-Southern Songster
From: Steve Gardham

None of the books in this series have ever been issued as hardbacks. Keeping costs down is essential with books of this sort. I might be wrong but what would be the advantage of a hardback anyway? When I get a book, and I have a couple of thousand, all I'm interested is what's inside it. Some of them are falling apart but that's actually the hardbacks anyway. Just curious! My original copies of the Purslow editions, apart from Foggy Dew which was badly bound, are all still in one piece after 50 years.


06 Jun 20 - 09:32 AM (#4057654)
Subject: RE: New Song Book Available soon-Southern Songster
From: Jim Carroll

The Purslow became unusable very quickly
Beside the point really Steve - I'll welcome any improvement in the way of untampered-with texts and fuller notes and hope to use them and pass them on to whoever gets them (Limerick Uni., in our case) in a form I hope they can continue to be used
There are some I wouldn't bother with and others which are no loner replaceable - I was hoping this would,t be one of I could get in a solid form
Jim


06 Jun 20 - 10:35 AM (#4057659)
Subject: RE: New Song Book Available soon-Southern Songster
From: GUEST,Nick Dow

Well we're certainly not ruling that out Jim. Please let us know your thoughts when you receive your copy.


06 Jun 20 - 11:02 AM (#4057666)
Subject: RE: New Song Book Available soon-Southern Songster
From: GUEST,Hootenanny

To Joe Offer

Joe you appear to be getting off light. I purchased a book from your side of the pond last month, mailing to the UK added around 60%.

Being bookworm don't come cheap right now just when another Robert Johnson biography is due.


06 Jun 20 - 02:18 PM (#4057716)
Subject: RE: New Song Book Available soon-Southern Songster
From: GUEST,Nick Dow

I am hoping to make the book available to overseas customers by PDF download. I assume this can then be viewed by tablet or kindle. Watch this space.


07 Jun 20 - 02:52 AM (#4057811)
Subject: RE: New Song Book Available soon-Southern Songster
From: GUEST,Nick Dow

I'm told Cohen Braithwaite-Kilcoyne will be singing a song from the book and posting it on line. I'll flag it up when it's available.


07 Jun 20 - 03:42 AM (#4057816)
Subject: RE: New Song Book Available soon-Southern Songster
From: Reinhard

Cohen is a wonderful singer; I'm looking forward to this -- and of course to the book too which I ordered just after your annoucement.


07 Jun 20 - 05:58 AM (#4057838)
Subject: RE: New Song Book Available soon-Southern Songster
From: Steve Gardham

Absolute agreement, Reinhard. For me the very top, but there are many great young singers of traditional material in England.


07 Jun 20 - 10:31 AM (#4057895)
Subject: RE: New Song Book Available soon-Southern Songster
From: GUEST,Nick Dow

I'll Email him and report back.


07 Jun 20 - 11:06 AM (#4057902)
Subject: RE: New Song Book Available soon-Southern Songster
From: RTim

Excuse me - but I am taking a liberty by posting here one of the songs from the new book as recorded by me on my CD - "From Spithead Roads"
it is the song "The Fair Maid of Bristol" - Roud 17811 - that was only ever collected twice, both by Dr. Gardiner in The New Forest, Hampshire - My old home area, being born less than 4 miles from where the song was collected from Fred Osman in 1908.

https://soundcloud.com/tim-radford/the-fair-maid-of-bristol

Tim Radford


07 Jun 20 - 01:51 PM (#4057932)
Subject: RE: New Song Book Available soon-Southern Songster
From: GUEST,Nick Dow

Big help Thanks.


07 Jun 20 - 02:41 PM (#4057941)
Subject: RE: New Song Book Available soon-Southern Songster
From: r.padgett

I have ordered a copy of the book

Ray


07 Jun 20 - 02:56 PM (#4057943)
Subject: RE: New Song Book Available soon-Southern Songster
From: GUEST,Nick Dow

Well done Ray. Sales are very encouraging on this first run.


07 Jun 20 - 04:55 PM (#4057982)
Subject: RE: New Song Book Available soon-Southern Songster
From: Steve Gardham

The project I'm currently working on involves going through the Hammond Gardiner Mss again, and I've already come across enough unpublished material for another book, but current project needs finishing first.


07 Jun 20 - 07:19 PM (#4058012)
Subject: RE: New Song Book Available soon-Southern Songster
From: GUEST,Nick Dow

Funny you should say that Steve...… I am reading and making notes on every tune in Hammond, I just want to hear what they heard. Comes of being mad on unwritten history.


07 Jun 20 - 07:23 PM (#4058015)
Subject: RE: New Song Book Available soon-Southern Songster
From: RTim

There is still an awful lot to be found in Gardiner.......and that is without adding to texts from other collectors (well - maybe just a little...)....But then as a proud Hampshire man I am always going to claim that.

Tim Radford


08 Jun 20 - 05:06 AM (#4058077)
Subject: RE: New Song Book Available soon-Southern Songster
From: GUEST,Nick Dow

And so you should, that's why you were on the team.


08 Jun 20 - 01:24 PM (#4058184)
Subject: RE: New Song Book Available soon-Southern Songster
From: GUEST,Nick Dow

Looks like the PDF is available. Not long now.


09 Jun 20 - 04:40 AM (#4058319)
Subject: RE: New Song Book Available soon-Southern Songster
From: GUEST,Nick Dow

Non UK customers please contact thesongcarrier@gmail.com for access to a PDF Copy of the book. All enquiries answered.


11 Jun 20 - 07:57 PM (#4058852)
Subject: RE: New Song Book Available soon-Southern Songster
From: GUEST,Nick Dow

The advance sales have been excellent, and the publisher is increasing the first run by 50%. Thank you all for your support and interest.


15 Jun 20 - 03:57 PM (#4059370)
Subject: RE: New Song Book Available soon-Southern Songster
From: GUEST,Nick Dow

The first run is quickly selling out. Please use the publishers link above to reserve a copy.


18 Jun 20 - 01:56 PM (#4059924)
Subject: RE: New Song Book Available soon-Southern Songster
From: r.padgett

I have had email confirmation of despatch ~ could well be received this week

Ray


18 Jun 20 - 02:51 PM (#4059934)
Subject: RE: New Song Book Available soon-Southern Songster
From: GUEST,guest (Dawn)

we also received same e mail


18 Jun 20 - 06:31 PM (#4059982)
Subject: RE: New Song Book Available soon-Southern Songster
From: GUEST,Nick Dow

Yes it will be with you early next week. Meanwhile here is Cohen Braithwaite-Kilcoyne singing a song from the book

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QcVSkU0mpSI


18 Jun 20 - 10:16 PM (#4060008)
Subject: RE: New Song Book Available soon-Southern Songster
From: Joe Offer

I got notice today that my book had shipped. I can hardly wait.

I have a Kentish friend here in California who has been working on a book since I met him in about 1993. It's a collection of British political songs for the period 1750-1850. He's finally ready to publish it. I've been very impressed with Francis Boutle, so I suggested he might want to publish his book through Boutle in the UK. The University of Notre Dame Press did a nice job of publishing Dan Milner's recent book in the US, so I recommended that my friend try Notre Dame for US publishing.

-Joe-


19 Jun 20 - 11:45 AM (#4060145)
Subject: RE: New Song Book Available soon-Southern Songster
From: GUEST,Nick Dow

I've just been chatting to Clive Boutle, Joe if you contact me on
thetraditionbearer@hotmail.co.uk we'll talk on. Your book has been posted by the way.


19 Jun 20 - 12:37 PM (#4060157)
Subject: RE: New Song Book Available soon-Southern Songster
From: RTim

Here is another song from the new book.......a very different arrangement to my original recording - "Come Roll The Cotton Down" - performed here with The Vox Hunters at the Mystic Sea Music Festival.
This version of the song was collected from James Bounds while he was in Portsmouth Workhouse in 1907 by Dr. Gardiner

Tim Radford

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Wd9jPHo-hs


19 Jun 20 - 03:02 PM (#4060187)
Subject: RE: New Song Book Available soon-Southern Songster
From: RTim

And another - this time an Audio file - Young Taylor, Huzza........

Tim Radford
https://soundcloud.com/tim-radford/young-taylor-huzza


19 Jun 20 - 04:58 PM (#4060206)
Subject: RE: New Song Book Available soon-Southern Songster
From: Steve Gardham

Masterful performance, Tim. Great stuff!


21 Jun 20 - 07:22 PM (#4060647)
Subject: RE: New Song Book Available soon-Southern Songster
From: GUEST,Nick Dow

The books are being delivered now, and we are getting some excellent feedback. If you have any comments on the book please feel free share them with us here.


22 Jun 20 - 03:11 PM (#4060812)
Subject: RE: New Song Book Available soon-Southern Songster
From: Steve Gardham

Please forward on any feedback you get, Nick. Not got mine yet. Who's the courier?


22 Jun 20 - 07:33 PM (#4060849)
Subject: RE: New Song Book Available soon-Southern Songster
From: GUEST,Nick Dow

I think Clive is sending you three. The Courier was Hermes.


23 Jun 20 - 05:35 AM (#4060902)
Subject: RE: New Song Book Available soon-Southern Songster
From: Richard Mellish

My two copies arrived yesterday, one for me and one that I re-posted to a friend for his birthday. But, what with one thing and another (including a chunk of this morning sorting out the trouble that I had with my speakers for yesterday's Mudcat Singaround) I haven't had a chance to look yet.


24 Jun 20 - 06:22 AM (#4061141)
Subject: RE: New Song Book Available soon-Southern Songster
From: GUEST,Nick Dow

I have now got MIDI files for all the books (i.e. everything except 'Marrowbones') Thanks to Graham Pratt. I'm busy converting them to Mp3, ostensibly for foreign customers, but I can download them to anybody who wants them,(free) Email is posted above. As things stand they are in Zip and W7 (whatever that is) I'll get to converting them when time allows.


24 Jun 20 - 07:28 AM (#4061148)
Subject: RE: New Song Book Available soon-Southern Songster
From: Manitas_at_home

Liz the Squeak here - Manitas gave me a copy as a present, and it is bloody marvellous!

Such a great selection of songs, and very well presented; clear, sensible and sure to become a classic!

LTS


24 Jun 20 - 08:15 AM (#4061152)
Subject: RE: New Song Book Available soon-Southern Songster
From: Vic Smith

My copy has just dropped through the letter-box. At first glance, it looks magnificent. I had already received the MIDI .mp3s of the tunes from Nick Dow so a big 'thank you' to him for those.


24 Jun 20 - 10:19 AM (#4061166)
Subject: RE: New Song Book Available soon-Southern Songster
From: GUEST

I have added to my Soundcloud site again and created a Playlist of songs that are in "Southern Songster."    There are currently 3 songs there and I may add a few more, particularly Chanties, in the next few days....I hope these compliment the book and makes it more enjoyable.....

Tim Radford

https://soundcloud.com/tim-radford/sets/southern-songster-songs


24 Jun 20 - 11:21 AM (#4061174)
Subject: RE: New Song Book Available soon-Southern Songster
From: GUEST,Nick Dow

Brilliant Tim and thank you. Here's Cohen singing another song from the book. You can now buy the book from the Grannies Attic Website

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OOnURInT_R8


26 Jun 20 - 05:11 AM (#4061449)
Subject: RE: New Song Book Available soon-Southern Songster
From: GUEST,Nick Dow

Just a quick update, the first run of the book is nearly sold out.
I have a few (address above) Cohen has about ten (G/Attic website) and there maybe a few with the publisher (above)
Other than that it's pre orders for the next run in July/August.
What can we say other than THANK YOU to you all.
Nick and the team.


26 Jun 20 - 10:27 AM (#4061509)
Subject: RE: New Song Book Available soon-Southern Songster
From: GUEST,Save our sausages

Hope it sells well.


29 Jun 20 - 06:57 AM (#4061996)
Subject: RE: New Song Book Available soon-Southern Songster
From: Reinhard

Got my copy too. Thank you very much for this, Nick, Steve, Cohen ant Tim!


29 Jun 20 - 07:56 AM (#4061999)
Subject: RE: New Song Book Available soon-Southern Songster
From: r.padgett

Mine very likely becalmed at Barnsley Post Office due an outbreak of Covid 19 among the posties ~ oh hum

Ray


29 Jun 20 - 09:05 AM (#4062003)
Subject: RE: New Song Book Available soon-Southern Songster
From: GUEST,Nick Dow

Let me know if you don't get it by Wednesday I'll chase it up or send you another.


29 Jun 20 - 09:17 AM (#4062005)
Subject: RE: New Song Book Available soon-Southern Songster
From: Steve Gardham

Ray
You're not on your own. I haven't even got my physical copy yet! I think mine has also fallen victim to Hermes being distracted.


29 Jun 20 - 09:39 AM (#4062010)
Subject: RE: New Song Book Available soon-Southern Songster
From: Reinhard

I found only two typos yet ;-)


29 Jun 20 - 10:36 AM (#4062014)
Subject: RE: New Song Book Available soon-Southern Songster
From: RTim

And Reinhard....I hope you won't mind me pointing out that you have the wrong book jacket illustration on your index for the book....this shows the "Southern Harvest" rather than the new "Souther Songster" cover (that I am told is a Thrush...), but it is the correct cover in your Bibliography..

Tim Radford


29 Jun 20 - 11:37 AM (#4062021)
Subject: RE: New Song Book Available soon-Southern Songster
From: Reinhard

Oops, fixed. copy&paste¬changeenough-error. Thanks for telling me.


29 Jun 20 - 03:15 PM (#4062061)
Subject: RE: New Song Book Available soon-Southern Songster
From: Steve Gardham

Rh
We have opportunity for some corrections to the next run. Please point out any typos I've missed as I did the proofing. Either here or email me or PM me.


30 Jun 20 - 03:20 AM (#4062124)
Subject: RE: New Song Book Available soon-Southern Songster
From: GUEST,henryp

Spelling; Introduction; Bottom of P5; "may have FARED better"

I'm singing Rio Grande with my grand-daughter, who sings "We're bound for the Rio Grandma" with great delight. And she's only three.


30 Jun 20 - 04:07 AM (#4062127)
Subject: RE: New Song Book Available soon-Southern Songster
From: GUEST,Nick Dow

Lovely!


30 Jun 20 - 05:54 AM (#4062136)
Subject: RE: New Song Book Available soon-Southern Songster
From: Steve Gardham

Love it, Hy!


30 Jun 20 - 07:13 AM (#4062143)
Subject: RE: New Song Book Available soon-Southern Songster
From: GUEST,Nick Dow

Here is a link to 'Mainly Norfolk' which gives a list of songs and links to Roud No.s and also links to Cohen singing songs from the book. Excellent! Many thanks.

https://mainlynorfolk.info/folk/books/southernsongster.html


30 Jun 20 - 03:26 PM (#4062212)
Subject: RE: New Song Book Available soon-Southern Songster
From: Steve Gardham

Reinhard has also sent me a few typos to alter for next run. I might also add that many of my notes in the book on recently recorded versions came from his Mainly Norfolk website and perhaps we could acknowledge that in the next run. Thanks, R!


01 Jul 20 - 03:22 PM (#4062323)
Subject: RE: New Song Book Available soon-Southern Songster
From: GUEST,Nick Dow

Here is the Musical Traditions Magazine review of the book. If you are not familiar with the site you will be pleasantly surprised and informed. There are many hours of interesting browsing.
http://mustrad.org.uk/reviews/southern.htm


01 Jul 20 - 04:01 PM (#4062328)
Subject: RE: New Song Book Available soon-Southern Songster
From: The Sandman

May i wish you all the best with the book, hope it sells well.


01 Jul 20 - 07:16 PM (#4062365)
Subject: RE: New Song Book Available soon-Southern Songster
From: GUEST,Nick Dow

Thanks Dick.


04 Jul 20 - 12:03 PM (#4062768)
Subject: RE: New Song Book Available soon-Southern Songster
From: r.padgett

Just to advise my copy has now arrived today July 4th 2020

Thanks

Ray


04 Jul 20 - 03:45 PM (#4062816)
Subject: RE: New Song Book Available soon-Southern Songster
From: GUEST,Nick Dow

Sorry you had to wait so long. Please let us know your thoughts on the book.


06 Jul 20 - 03:05 AM (#4063025)
Subject: RE: New Song Book Available soon-Southern Songster
From: r.padgett

I will

Ray


06 Jul 20 - 07:53 AM (#4063062)
Subject: RE: New Song Book Available soon-Southern Songster
From: r.padgett

Southern Songster ~ review
English folk songs from the Hammond and Gardiner Manuscripts
ISBN 978 1 8380928 01
As the title says a South of England collection of over 100 songs from Hampshire and Dorset selected by Nick Dow with musical notation by Cohen Braithwaite – Kilcoyne.
Steve Gardham provides 54 pages of song notes on many songs that I have never heard of ~ titles like “The three worms” and “The tinker’s old budget”. Although there are some other popular traditional songs like “Adieu Sweet Lovely Nancy” and “Barbara Allen”
Yes times have changed but the folk song collectors of the time would have encountered and collected songs that were current at the time. Many of these songs have entered into the folk repertoire of floor singer s and professionals alike. The Southern Songster is a welcome addition for enthusiasts old and young to get their teeth into, so to speak.
Steve also supplies the Roud index numbers and makes reference to audio sources available on CD and online with references to notes and tunes .Where possible CDs where songs have been recorded by traditional and current younger folk artists such as Brian Peters, Bella Hardy, Lucy Ward, Eliza Carthy and Bryony Griffith are given.
I was drawn to “Yorkshire Park”, which I know as “Sheffield Park” and “Cruel Mother” both of which are on the Yorkshire Garland website of course with audios of Frank Hinchliffe and Jim Eldon, respectively.
The addition of ten shanties is also welcome as the main shanty “bibles” have been hard to locate and festivals and folk gatherings do tend to like full blown shanties with “big” choruses!
Ray Padgett July 6th 2020


06 Jul 20 - 06:59 PM (#4063158)
Subject: RE: New Song Book Available soon-Southern Songster
From: GUEST,Nick Dow

Thanks for that Ray. I'll pass it on to all concerned.


06 Jul 20 - 10:45 PM (#4063182)
Subject: RE: New Song Book Available soon-Southern Songster
From: Rumncoke

I have spent time during the lockdown trying to learn to read music - again - and having got somewhere with it, I have spent a bit on books with tunes in - luckily my income was not entirely lost.
I have left it a bit late in life to get to grips with the dots - but it just goes to show, you can teach an old dog new tricks.
I have even been writing a few new verses where I felt there was a need for explanation or variation.
Never did really go for the died for love or man walks away sniggering endings, so I have devised a few which I find more satisfactory.
I am going to need another bookcase before long though.


07 Jul 20 - 06:48 AM (#4063218)
Subject: RE: New Song Book Available soon-Southern Songster
From: GUEST,Nick Dow

Editing and rewriting is actively encouraged in Southern Songster. The more versions of the songs that are produced the better. Time will tell which ones survive.
Martin Carthy encouraged me to read music and sing from the page. It is very useful. When you find the root note, and work out the scale and accidentals, it's easier than you think.
Rumncoke you are welcome to the Mp3 files of the tunes if it will help your studies. My Email is as above.


08 Jul 20 - 07:33 AM (#4063330)
Subject: RE: New Song Book Available soon-Southern Songster
From: GUEST,Nick Dow

Here is a bit of feedback about the book. There will be a second run with corrections by the end of July, pre orders are being taken now.

It is so important that all of our wonderful traditional songs are collected and registered in book form for us and for future generations to absorb and enjoy. Southern Songster does this in the best possible manner. Martyn Wyndham-Read


Carefully-edited genuine traditional songs - words, music and detailed historical notes - a feast for the singer and scholar. Steve Roud

A fine continuation of a great series of new editions. Rod Stradling

‘A splendid achievement’ Alan Bearman Sidmouth Folk Week


10 Jul 20 - 07:41 PM (#4063710)
Subject: RE: New Song Book Available soon-Southern Songster
From: GUEST,Nick Dow

'The Wanton Seed', 'The Foggy Dew', 'The Constant Lovers', (i.e. Southern Harvest) AND 'Southern Songster', in PDF form, and all the song tunes supplied in MP3 form! This is now available worldwide for £30 for the lot. Contact Clive Boutle on the Francis Boutle website, or Nick Dow nickdow67@gmail.com for details.
A great deal if you have trouble reading music notation, and your original 1970's copies are disintegrating. Sorry no 'Marrowbones', not our copyright.


12 Jul 20 - 06:08 AM (#4063824)
Subject: RE: New Song Book Available soon-Southern Songster
From: Steve Gardham

As soon as EFDSS are back up and running I will ascertain what the current state of play is with 'Marrow Bones'. If they have none left I will request that Clive be allowed to republish if he is willing.


12 Jul 20 - 06:16 AM (#4063825)
Subject: RE: New Song Book Available soon-Southern Songster
From: The Sandman

Nick ,received my copy thanks


12 Jul 20 - 10:17 AM (#4063842)
Subject: RE: New Song Book Available soon-Southern Songster
From: GUEST,Nick Dow

Enjoy.


13 Jul 20 - 01:48 PM (#4064038)
Subject: RE: New Song Book Available soon-Southern Songster
From: GUEST,Nick Dow

Confirmed a new deal today for 'Wanton Seed' and 'Southern Harvest' only, in PDF form with Mp3 tunes --£20-00 by WeTransfer contact nickdow67@gmail.com for details.


21 Jul 20 - 08:57 AM (#4065260)
Subject: RE: New Song Book Available soon-Southern Songster
From: GUEST,Nick Dow

The re-print is being completed today. Advanced copies will be honoured first, then it will be available from the Francis Boutle website Grannies Attic website or myself on nickdow67@gmail.com