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14 May 20 - 12:09 AM (#4052357) Subject: Rise Up Singing, Volume 3 (online) From: Joe Offer OK, so I'll say more about this later, but one song that has to be in the third volume of Rise Up Singing, is "Log Driver's Waltz." |
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14 May 20 - 12:20 AM (#4052359) Subject: RE: Rise Up Singing, Volume 3 (online) From: Joe Offer I suggested that we should start working on a third volume of the Rise Up Singing Songbook, and Peter Blood and Annie Patterson said, "You do it, Joe!" So, I think we should make an online songbook at Mudcat. The first two books were Rise Up Singing and Rise Again. I love both books, and I worked very hard on the second one and continue working on a database to support the books with YouTube videos and background information. But I have to say I don't like many of the songs in these books. |
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14 May 20 - 05:47 AM (#4052399) Subject: RE: Rise Up Singing, Volume 3 (online) From: GUEST,Gerry I'd like to see more Australian songs in Volume 3. Poison Train, Wee Pot Stove, Do You Think That I Do Not Know, The Ballad of 1891, Weevils in the Flour, Song of the Sheetmetal Worker, Anderson's Coast, The Sandy Hollow Line, He Fades Away, Time is a Tempest, Bare-Legged Kate, Miner's Washing, The Man with the Pink Triangle, The Swaggies Have All Waltzed Matilda Away, The People Have Songs, Hey Rain, Sixteen Million People, Thirty-Ton Line, Past Carin', Of Trees and Humankind, The Outside Track, Year of the Drum, and I could go on.... |
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14 May 20 - 01:36 PM (#4052468) Subject: RE: Rise Up Singing, Volume 3 (online) From: cnd It'd certainly be a neat way to make the book more accessible |
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14 May 20 - 02:39 PM (#4052482) Subject: RE: Rise Up Singing, Volume 3 (online) From: EBarnacle Will there be a paid subscription or will it be a labor of love, like the DT? |
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14 May 20 - 04:54 PM (#4052506) Subject: RE: Rise Up Singing, Volume 3 (online) From: Joe Offer No, what I'm thinking of, is having it right here at Mudcat, one thread per chapter, with this thread as the planning thread. I think we need songs that people are likely to actually likely to learn and sing, a treasure of the familiar (but not the trite). And I have a preference for songs people can sing together, at least on the chorus. Name a chapter title, and give us some songs from that category that you think people would like to sing. I'm open to suggestions for titles for this songbook. Right now, I think the working title should be Rise Up, Mudcat! -Joe- |
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15 May 20 - 02:27 PM (#4052637) Subject: RE: Rise Up Singing, Volume 3 (online) From: EBarnacle I've been thinking about your note. I suggest you adopt a format that allows song posts only on the threads. These threads would be posted as links above the list of posters. Discussions could be accommodated by a new category, something like "about: XYZ." This would keep the main song threads from becoming cluttered with commentary and, at the same time, allow people to discuss entries. |
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15 May 20 - 03:44 PM (#4052648) Subject: RE: Rise Up Singing, Volume 3 (online) From: Joe Offer I'm thinking that the finalized chapters will be closed threads, with just the song lyrics - and a separate thread to discuss each chapter and submit links to lyrics (lyrics themselves should be posted in existing or new song threads, following our usual one song/one thread practice. Any suggestions for chapter titles, so we can start some chapter threads? I think maybe we shouldn't duplicate songs that are already in Rise Up Singing or Rise Again. -Joe- |
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15 May 20 - 04:11 PM (#4052653) Subject: RE: Rise Up Singing, Volume 3 (online) From: BrooklynJay I don't have the first two volumes, so I don't know if this has already been used, but... Murder Ballads From the sublime to the ridiculous, think of the possibilities. Jay |
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15 May 20 - 05:03 PM (#4052662) Subject: RE: Rise Up Singing, Volume 3 (online) From: Jack Campin A chapter of Jim Maclean songs. Ditto for Anne Feeney and David Rovics. Lockdown balcony songs around the world. |
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16 May 20 - 06:55 PM (#4052883) Subject: RE: Rise Up Mudcat!, RUS Volume 3 (online) From: Joe Offer A "Murder Ballads" chapter, Jay? Brilliant! I love my Quaker supervisors from Rise Up Singing, but I don't think they could do a "Murder Ballads" chapter (but they did include "Banks of the Ohio"). Want to post a list of songs? |
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17 May 20 - 05:58 PM (#4053171) Subject: RE: Rise Up Mudcat!, RUS Volume 3 (online) From: Joe_F Fall Down Singing |
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17 May 20 - 06:08 PM (#4053174) Subject: RE: Rise Up Mudcat!, RUS Volume 3 (online) From: EBarnacle As we are talking of an online book, how will you add new offerings to closed threads? Unlike a paper book, there is no reason for a properly curated site to ever close out unless there will be a potential RUS, Volume 4, etc. As Tolkien put it, the road goes ever on. |
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17 May 20 - 06:56 PM (#4053180) Subject: RE: Rise Up Mudcat!, RUS Volume 3 (online) From: Joe Offer Well, I can add things to closed threads. I can also make them PermaThreads and assign an editor. That's why I think we need "feeder" threads for discussion and suggestions, and then we can add to the final chapter. Only problem is, it's difficult to reorder threads once things have been posted - so it would be hard to have added songs in alphabetical order. -Joe- Some subjects: Murder Environment Activism Justice Ballads (we already have ballads in RUS and RA) Sentimental Songs Blues (We have a good blues chapter in RA) Planes, Trains, and Automobiles Ships Animals Preschool |
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17 May 20 - 07:46 PM (#4053184) Subject: RE: Rise Up Mudcat!, RUS Volume 3 (online) From: cnd I like the themes, Joe. I think a section on nature could be neat. Potentially related to "Environment," but more about the beauty of nature and appreciating it |
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17 May 20 - 09:56 PM (#4053197) Subject: RE: Rise Up Mudcat!, RUS Volume 3 (online) From: EBarnacle Instead of forcing things into a specific order, perhaps they could simply be indexed and linked, as we now do so that someone looking for x could go down the list of a general subject, click on the title and arrive directly on x, as we already do with threads and songs that relate to subjects under discussion. That would also allow hyperlinking for relevance at the end of an entry, let us say, to a YouTube of the song. This project seems perfect for overcoming the limitations of paper books. By creating the ability to add versions, you would be creating something closer in spirit to Child's approach to presenting songs than to having people say "This is THE official version of this song. It says so right here right here in the book." I believe we both agree that this is a major objection to people who treat RUS as the authority instead a starting point to making a song their own. |
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22 May 20 - 11:27 PM (#4054468) Subject: RE: Rise Up Mudcat!, RUS Volume 3 (online) From: Joe Offer "Moonshiner" - I'm a Rambler, I'm a Gambler Going to the West Tell Old Bill Poor Lazarus Lorena |
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23 May 20 - 03:23 AM (#4054496) Subject: RE: Rise Up Mudcat!, RUS Volume 3 (online) From: GUEST,Gerry "Going to the West" is on Finest Kind, Lost in a Song. Liner notes say, "Ann [Downey] learned this beautiful, lonesome song of western migration from the singing of Kate Brislin and Jody Stecher. Its lineage before them can be traced through Ginny Hawker and Peggy Seeger to Byron Arnold's 'Folksongs of Alabama'." |
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23 May 20 - 11:34 PM (#4054710) Subject: RE: Rise Up Mudcat!, RUS Volume 3 (online) From: GUEST,Bo in OH Loved both RUS and RA as a starting point for learning songs. After years of digging through "the blue book" I'm still finding new treasures at singarounds. Blessings to you for your work on RA ... a brilliant resource and fitting sequel. The third online is an inspired and intriguing idea. How about a "Great American Songbook" category? Some of these pop songs are getting close to 100 years old;I find it a fascinating trend that some of the seminal singer/songwriters from the 60s and 70s have been covering them, including Dylan and now James Taylor |
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24 May 20 - 12:28 AM (#4054713) Subject: RE: Rise Up Mudcat!, RUS Volume 3 (online) From: Joe Offer Great American Songbook? Oh, yeah! First suggestion: Miss Otis Regrets (Cole Porter) |
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24 May 20 - 05:15 PM (#4054909) Subject: RE: Rise Up Mudcat!, RUS Volume 3 (online) From: Joe Offer The Good in Living |
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31 May 20 - 12:11 AM (#4056139) Subject: RE: Rise Up Mudcat!, RUS Volume 3 (online) From: Joe Offer Row On Innocent Hare (Copper Family) The Last Trip Home (Davy Steele) Dave Mallet's I Knew this Place and Summer of my Dreams. |
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03 Jun 20 - 03:17 PM (#4056998) Subject: RE: Rise Up Mudcat!, RUS Volume 3 (online) From: EBarnacle Joe, please consider Ella's song. Here is a link to Sweet Honey in the rock's presentation. When I sing it, I change the opening to "We who believe in freedom shall not rest; We who believe in justice shall no rest until it comes." I believe that the concepts of freedom and justice cannot be unlinked. https://genius.com/Sweet-honey-in-the-rock-ellas-song-lyrics |
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03 Jun 20 - 03:43 PM (#4057007) Subject: RE: Rise Up Mudcat!, RUS Volume 3 (online) From: Joe Offer I love that song, too, EBarnacle....but we included it in the Rise Again Songbook. |
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08 Jun 20 - 05:34 PM (#4058227) Subject: RE: Rise Up Mudcat!, RUS Volume 3 (online) From: Joe Offer The Rosabella. |
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27 Jun 20 - 10:43 PM (#4061796) Subject: RE: Rise Up Mudcat!, RUS Volume 3 (online) From: Joe Offer How could we have missed Carrickfergus?? And Leadbelly's Gray Goose |
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11 Jul 20 - 10:05 PM (#4063803) Subject: RE: Rise Up Mudcat!, RUS Volume 3 (online) From: Joe Offer A classic song that works great for singarounds and pisses off the folk purists, is David Bowie's "Space Oddity." |
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11 Jul 20 - 10:21 PM (#4063806) Subject: RE: Rise Up Mudcat!, RUS Volume 3 (online) From: JennieG Good timing, Joe......"Space Oddity" was released on July 11, 1969! |
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13 Jul 20 - 02:21 PM (#4064046) Subject: RE: Rise Up Mudcat!, RUS Volume 3 (online) From: Mysha The Great American Song Book? Several of the suggestions seem rather Old-Worldly. Is there a specific American-plus origin in mind, or should it rather be kind of a Rise Up Unlimited? Bye Mysha |
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13 Jul 20 - 04:01 PM (#4064056) Subject: RE: Rise Up Mudcat!, RUS Volume 3 (online) From: Joe Offer Rise Up Unlimited - songs that are good for singing, especially by groups. But the "Great American Songbook" songs of 1920-1950 are an interesting category that we covered quite well in the previous two books.... |
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13 Jul 20 - 04:54 PM (#4064067) Subject: RE: Rise Up Mudcat!, RUS Volume 3 (online) From: Nigel Parsons Joe, Going back to 17/May: Only problem is, it's difficult to reorder threads once things have been posted - so it would be hard to have added songs in alphabetical order. I get away with it in the BBC song book threads by opening two tabs with Mudcat, and pasting from one to the other (usually between two 'edit' boxes to retain any format). Admittedly this loses the name/date of the original post, and the originals don't appear on lists of posted comments. The original name/date could be retained by starting each post with a copy/paste "This post was originally made by Joe Bloggs on 32nd July 2020". Obviously it still won't appear in 'joe bloggs's' list of posts, but it is identifiable. (and not so much problem if posters know in advance, like the DTStudy threads, that the discussion is open to editing actions) Also, if I know I'm going to be shifting a good number of entries I go through first creating a sufficient number of new posts "This post deliberately blank . . ." so no-one can post something in the middle of my transfer actions. If it involves a large number of posts you may need one or more volunteers with edit buttons. (Oops, just used the 'v' word.) Hope this helps. I haven't sent it as a PM as others may have better solutions. Cheers |
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16 Jul 20 - 04:30 AM (#4064386) Subject: RE: Rise Up Mudcat!, RUS Volume 3 (online) From: GUEST >>>> OK, so I'll say more about this later, but one song that has to be in the third volume of Rise Up Singing, is "Log Driver's Waltz." As an erstwhile long distance lorry driver going back to the days before the tachograph, I'd like to see "Drivers' Log Waltz" - the book we knew as the Daily Liar. |
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16 Jul 20 - 11:11 PM (#4064517) Subject: RE: Rise Up Mudcat!, RUS Volume 3 (online) From: GUEST,Michael M Are you sure you don’t want to call it Up from the Mud? Seems fitting in our current morass (as opposed to less ass) as well as a It came from the Swamp echo. Love the Great American Songbook idea although this may overlap with musical Fake Books. |
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25 Jul 20 - 02:49 AM (#4065765) Subject: RE: Rise Up Mudcat!, RUS Volume 3 (online) From: Joe Offer Could it be that we didn't put "Blue Eyes Crying in the Rain" in the first two books? And how about Patsy Cline's "I Fall to Pieces"? I think the goal of the "Rise" books is to present a selection of songs that people can sing together, and that they like to sing. This is infuriating to exclusionists, but such is life. These are simply enjoyable, singable songs. -Joe- |
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25 Jul 20 - 05:57 PM (#4065835) Subject: RE: Rise Up Mudcat!, RUS Volume 3 (online) From: GUEST,Bradfordian “Want to post a list of songs?” Here you go…… .. Guess you’ll already have a good portion of these(sorry!) Composer or performer given in some cases (sorry again) ( and sorry for any incorrect spellings/typos— just knocked these from the top of my head) Maybe a bit of a British slant here (sorry) Dreams. The Cranberries Thank you for the days. Ray Davis Memphis Tennessee. Chuck Berry When my morning comes around. Iris DeMent I’m going home to Georgia. Lisa Null After the gold rush After the war. Paul Gross Anderson’s. Coast Aragon mill. Si Kahn Arthur McBride Bell book and candle. Bo Hewerdine Bide a while The Garden song. Dave Mallet Four strong winds Ian Tyson Someday soon. Ditto “ Blue nose Book of love. Magnetic fields Bread and fishes. Alan Bell The Brookside Richard Moncton-Milnes Circle game Joni Mitchell Call and answer. Phil Colclough Deep blue sea Diana. Paul Anka Dililah Tom Jones Eli Jenkins Prayer. Dylan Thomas End of the world Skeeter Davis Everyday. Buddy Holly Farewell to the gold. Paul Metzers Farther Along Fiddlers green. John Connolly Fields of Athenry First you lose thee rhyming. Harvey Andrews Frobisher Bay. James Gordon Galway Shawl Grey Funnel Line. Cyril Tawney Hard cheese of old England. Heart like a wheel. Anna McGaragle Heartbeat Buddy Holly High Germany Hold on to me babe. Tom Paxton It doesn’t matter anymore. Buddy Holly Keep you in peace. Sarah Morgan Lean on me love. John Kettle/Merry Hell Leaving Nancy. Eric Bogle Leaving London. Tom Paxton Let union be in all our hearts The Lockkeeper Stan Rogers Make you feel my love. Bob Dylan Me and the elephants. Benny Whitehead Mr Blue Sky. ELO My lady of autumn. Dave Weber My rainbow race Pete Seeger Now that the Buffalo’s gone. Buff Ste Marie Old Shep One more pull. I Woods & K Stephens Only remembered Pack up your sorrows R Farina Raining in my heart. Buddy Holly Roll on the day. Allan Taylor The Rose. Amanda McBroom Row on. Tim Laycock Running bear. Johnny Preston Song for Ireland Strangest dream Summertime blues. Eddie Cochran Sweet rose of Allendale Tall trees in Georgia. Buffy Ste Marie The telling takes me home. Bruce Philips That’ll be the day. Buddy Holly Tom Woods True love ways. Buddy Holly Until it’s time for you to go. Buffy Ste Marie Waltzing with bears Wild colonial boy Working man. Rita McNeil |
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25 Jul 20 - 06:12 PM (#4065838) Subject: RE: Rise Up Mudcat!, RUS Volume 3 (online) From: Joe Offer There are some great songs on that list, Barrie. Many of them are already in "Rise" books 1 and 2, so they won't be duplicated. Others break a rule that Blood/Patterson didn't have for the first two books: familiarity. That being said, there are still some really great songs on your list that should be included in Rise Up Mudcat! Another: Ae Fond Kiss, by Robert Burns |
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25 Jul 20 - 06:55 PM (#4065842) Subject: RE: Rise Up Mudcat!, RUS Volume 3 (online) From: YorkshireYankee What do you think of a section on Covid-19 parodies – or is that too narrow? |
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25 Jul 20 - 11:03 PM (#4065858) Subject: RE: Rise Up Mudcat!, RUS Volume 3 (online) From: GUEST Completely from outside the canon but the sentiment is timely: Lynyrd Skynyrd None of us are free. |
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26 Jul 20 - 12:22 PM (#4065952) Subject: RE: Rise Up Mudcat!, RUS Volume 3 (online) From: Joe Offer I'm really enjoying the chance to see the songs that are treasures to various Mudcat gets. This thread is simply to gather ideas, so there are no restrictions on the names of songs you want to post here. I ask you not to criticize the choices people make. In the end product, the songs that are chosen we'll have to be songs that are easily sung, preferably by groups. I would hope that they would be songs that are fairly well-known. the idea is to make a third collection of songs for people to sing, rather than presenting a list of obscure songs that people may never sing. Another category: hymns for non-believers - inspiring songs not based on religious beliefs, that everyone can sing in unity. |
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26 Jul 20 - 04:10 PM (#4065977) Subject: RE: Rise Up Mudcat!, RUS Volume 3 (online) From: Mysha Mary Ellen Carter? A bit to preachy for my taste, but that was his intention, I guess. Me, I'm more the type to sing about Marie-Claire, but I guess that doesn't fit the requirement. Bye Mysha |
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26 Jul 20 - 04:26 PM (#4065981) Subject: RE: Rise Up Mudcat!, RUS Volume 3 (online) From: Joe Offer Can't say I know anything about Marie-Claire, Mysha. You certainly don't mean the fashion magazine, do you? The Mary Ellen Carter is in Rise Up Singing and there's a spider parody in Rise Again, so you don't need to worry about that one being in Volume 3. But do tell us about Marie-Claire songs. We could learn something. -Joe- |
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26 Jul 20 - 05:59 PM (#4065998) Subject: RE: Rise Up Mudcat!, RUS Volume 3 (online) From: GUEST,henryp Ten Thousand Miles The Bay Of Biscay/Willy-o Yorkshire Wassail Sally Brown; Shanty Willie O'Winsbury Sprig Of Time Brigg Fair Rufford Park Poachers What Will We Do If We Have No Money? The Manchester Rambler; Ewan MacColl Dirty Old Town; Ewan McColl Thirty Foot Trailer; Ewan MacColl Shoals Of Herring; Ewan MacColl Never Tire Of The Road; Andy Irvine Ruins By The Shore; Nic Jones The Jukebox As She Turned; Jeff Deitchman Only Remembered; John Tams Amelia, Where you Bound To? Trad/John Tams Bringing In the Sheaves; Jim Boyes Unison In Harmony; Jim Boyes Coal Not Dole; Kay Sutcliffe/John Goss Overnight; Robb Johnson Rosa's Lovely Daughters; Robb Johnson The Call And The Answer; Phil and June Colclough |
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26 Jul 20 - 06:30 PM (#4066005) Subject: RE: Rise Up Mudcat!, RUS Volume 3 (online) From: GUEST,Gerry "I would hope that they would be songs that are fairly well-known. the idea is to make a third collection of songs for people to sing, rather than presenting a list of obscure songs that people may never sing." I would hope there would also be obscure songs that people would sing, if only they knew those songs existed. The great thing about the two books is that not only do they have a lot of my old favorites but that when I heard a fine song I had never heard before there was a good chance I'd find it in one of the books. I think people would like, and would want to sing, the songs I listed way back at the beginning of this thread – the singers and the songs just need to be introduced to each other. |
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26 Jul 20 - 06:37 PM (#4066006) Subject: RE: Rise Up Mudcat!, RUS Volume 3 (online) From: Joe Offer That too, Gerry. I learned so many songs when I worked on the Rise Again Songbook and was forced to expose myself to songs I didn't know. It was good discipline, to be forced to learn something new. |
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28 Jul 20 - 06:20 AM (#4066251) Subject: RE: Rise Up Mudcat!, RUS Volume 3 (online) From: Mysha Marie-Claire is the subject of Where do you go to, my lovely. But that's not a good song for group singing, I guess. Bye Mysha |
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29 Jul 20 - 02:32 PM (#4066461) Subject: RE: Rise Up Mudcat!, RUS Volume 3 (online) From: Mysha Hi, Are there enough songs about disasters that are well-singable that there could be a chapter on them? BFN Mysha |
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29 Jul 20 - 03:06 PM (#4066466) Subject: RE: Mudcat Up Singing - a perfect songbook From: Severn Have you been taking note of the sets of words that you have been fishing out and posting at the online sings? Based on the crowd reactions to some of them, it would give you a good idea what to include from what's been sung and shared. The other day,for example, I gave you a Roud Index number on "Erin's Farewell" that ended up getting a good reaction from the assembled singers and feedback in the Zoom Room chat. I hope you are assembling a lot of such songs as you go along, especially since you have just done a lot of the research already. Put them aside and possibly run them by Mudcat Assembled for further consideration, if you haven't already after on your own. You are acting as a collector as you are hosting, anyway. |
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09 Aug 20 - 02:37 AM (#4067773) Subject: RE: Rise Up Mudcat!, RUS Volume 3 (online) From: Mysha Curiously, "On Top of Spaghetti" appears to be somewhere in Rise Up Singing Again, complete with the melody being given as On Top of Old Smokey. But I can't seem to find the song itself. Bye Mysha |
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09 Aug 20 - 04:06 AM (#4067777) Subject: RE: Rise Up Mudcat!, RUS Volume 3 (online) From: Joe Offer Page 175 in Rise Up Singing, Mysha. Attributed to Tom Glazer. Here are all the songs in the "Rise Up" books: |
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09 Aug 20 - 02:22 PM (#4067831) Subject: RE: Rise Up Mudcat!, RUS Volume 3 (online) From: Joe Offer There are some great ideas here. Anybody want to choose a chapter and start a PermaThread? Gerry, do you want to do Australian songs? Canadian Songs? Great American Songbook? Disaster Songs? Murder Ballads? I think we should have a chapter for building each chapter, and then a separate thread for the final edition of each chapter. -Joe- |
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09 Aug 20 - 06:18 PM (#4067844) Subject: RE: Rise Up Mudcat!, RUS Volume 3 (online) From: Mysha Let me rephrase that: "On Top of Spaghetti" appears to be somewhere in Rise Up Singing Again. For that entry, the melody is given as On Top of Old Smokey. This would suggest that On Top of Old Smokey is itself a well-known song, well worth singing together. But curiously, I can't seem to find the song itself anywhere in RUSA. BTW, the internal alphabet doesn't work for me, for that page. Though they are quite nice about it, I'd prefer to not complain about another of their pages unless I'm sure I'm not the only one having a problem with it. Does anyone else have trouble jumping to a location somewhere on that page, rather than to its top? Bye Mysha |
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12 Aug 20 - 03:32 PM (#4068154) Subject: RE: Rise Up Mudcat!, RUS Volume 3 (online) From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity How about singing "If I Only Had A Brain" on Viagra??? GfS |
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14 Aug 20 - 07:01 AM (#4068327) Subject: RE: Rise Up Mudcat!, RUS Volume 3 (online) From: GUEST,Gerry Joe, I'd be happy to start a Permathread on Australian songs, if I had any idea of how to start (and maintain) a Permathread. |
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22 Aug 20 - 02:49 AM (#4069118) Subject: RE: Rise Up Mudcat!, RUS Volume 3 (online) From: Joe Offer OK, I'm going to lay claim to a chapter tentatively called Rousers and Closers. I like songs where large numbers of people can sing in harmony. Sing John Ball Here's to You (Allan Bell) Jock Tamson's Bairns Just One More Chorus Safe Home (johnsmith) I'll set up a chapter soon. -Joe- |
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25 Aug 20 - 06:55 PM (#4069635) Subject: RE: Rise Up Mudcat!, RUS Volume 3 (online) From: Joe Offer Another Chapter: Cowboy Songs. Anybody want to host it? |
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28 Sep 20 - 03:45 PM (#4073509) Subject: RE: Rise Up Mudcat!, RUS Volume 3 (online) From: Joe Offer We can't leave out Benjamin Bowmaneer. How about "Bramble and the Rose"? |
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25 Oct 20 - 02:30 PM (#4076785) Subject: RE: Rise Up Mudcat!, RUS Volume 3 (online) From: Mrrzy Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana. There are 10 kinds of people in the world: those who understand binary and those who don't. |
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13 Nov 20 - 11:52 PM (#4079555) Subject: RE: Rise Up Mudcat!, RUS Volume 3 (online) From: Joe Offer Another one that could be in our online book - Where've You Been? - sung by Kathy Mattea, and I think by Nanci Griffitn. |