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BS: New news *not* about the virus

12 Apr 20 - 10:54 PM (#4045716)
Subject: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy

Virginia is acting like a grownup, passing legislation increasing gun control, protecting abortion rights, and expanding voting rights. They also (finally) got rid of Lee-Jackson day, although, to be fair, when I first moved here we had Lee-Jackson-King day, I kid you not, as the Feds imposed MLK day on top of prexisting L-J day. They eventually moved L-J to the Friday before, making for a 4-day weekend.

Now, *that* will be missed.

What non-virus-related stories are you finding in your local papers? Good news preferred but interested in anything.


13 Apr 20 - 04:53 AM (#4045753)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mr Red

the four-leaf clover season is well under way. I am hoarding them (Oh! Hus ma mouth!)


13 Apr 20 - 05:23 AM (#4045757)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Bonzo3legs

Sun's fair blazin' innit!!!


13 Apr 20 - 09:34 AM (#4045802)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Sandra in Sydney

The bilby is Australia's very own Easter bunny, but how much do you actually know about it? Forget Easter bunnies, in Australia we're all about the Easter bilby*
The bilby is a small native marsupial with huge ears and a pointy snout that makes it look like a cross between a bandicoot and a hare, but with extra fluffiness.

*We have been assured that the Easter bilby is also an essential worker and will be distributing eggs this Easter.

Wikipedia - Easter Bilby (books & merchandise)


13 Apr 20 - 09:37 AM (#4045806)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: keberoxu

but what about the quokka?


13 Apr 20 - 09:45 AM (#4045811)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Donuel

The UK politics thread is more entertaining than watching the Life of Brian scene, "Aside from the roads, health care, schools, aquaduct, sanitation, what have the Romans ever done for us?"

If Iains is the winner of the Insult King Award and Steve is the 3rd runner up who wants the right to have babies, who is second runner up?
I'm tellin ya Bull Shit, its not good for ya.

Now for new News:

Pay Pal is approved to give out pandemic relief money.
Is this too virusy?


13 Apr 20 - 10:36 AM (#4045815)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Sandra in Sydney

this Easter quokka?


13 Apr 20 - 11:11 AM (#4045821)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy

Also new law allows us to get rid of the confederate statues that caused all the trouble in Charlottesville.

Wonder how *that* will go.


13 Apr 20 - 10:16 PM (#4045935)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Donuel

Goons will not replace us.

Even Germany doesn't display Nazi statues of Gherring , Goebbles and Ribentrop.


14 Apr 20 - 01:04 AM (#4045948)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy

Virginia has apparently kind of decriminalized pot. I tell ya, we are adulting all over the place.


14 Apr 20 - 07:10 AM (#4045996)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Donuel

The difference between my State and your State used to be VA made the weapons and MD made the medical treatments to save its victims.


14 Apr 20 - 08:35 AM (#4046014)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy

I don't think I realized we were neighbors...


16 Apr 20 - 01:32 AM (#4046354)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Sandra in Sydney

Prickles the sheep returns home to Dunalley farm after fleeing 2013 bushfires


16 Apr 20 - 07:23 AM (#4046400)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: JennieG

Prickles has quite a fleece! Will be interesting to see how much it weighs.

We used to have a cat called Prickle, a black and white puss......lived to be 15 or so......our boys gave her the name. When we were bringing her home in the car from the animal shelter she was stretching and 'kneading' as cats do; "she's very prickly" said the boys. And so 'Prickle' she became.


16 Apr 20 - 06:47 PM (#4046567)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy

Aw, Brian Dennehey died. I liked him though I confused him a lot with Brian Keith. Whom I also liked.


16 Apr 20 - 07:21 PM (#4046569)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: leeneia

It's not local news, but see my thread on amazing sea creatures filmed off western Australia.


16 Apr 20 - 09:47 PM (#4046575)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Sandra in Sydney

amazing sea creatures here - https://mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=167634&messages=2&threadid=167634&messages=2


18 Apr 20 - 11:49 AM (#4046847)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy

Cool stuff! And neanderthals had string.


20 Apr 20 - 08:31 AM (#4047191)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy

On an unhappy note, mass shooting in Nova Scotia (of all places). Thoughts, but not prayers, in my case.


20 Apr 20 - 09:28 PM (#4047310)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy

Interesting toke, er, take: https://www.vox.com/2020/4/20/21225731/what-is-420-coronavirus-marijuana-legalization-covid-19


21 Apr 20 - 07:37 AM (#4047370)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Donuel

The price of oil is A MINUS $37 per barrel. Thats right because it costs money to store surplus oil, buyers are paid by the sellers.


21 Apr 20 - 08:16 AM (#4047374)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy

The Lyrids peak tonight, a-wimoweh.


21 Apr 20 - 06:39 PM (#4047512)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Donuel

The perfect supream leader of North Korea had heart surgury and is in critical condition.


21 Apr 20 - 07:36 PM (#4047525)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Donuel

Mrzzy you posted "Oh weem oway"

Heres one


21 Apr 20 - 09:35 PM (#4047540)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Sandra in Sydney

2 Feral sheep shorn for first time in years after discovery near WA beach

they couldn't move fast enough to get away from the bloke who saw them! The average fleece weighs 5 kilos (11 pounds), these lost 19 kilos (41 pounds) each, but the record for a feral sheep is still 41 kilos (91 pounds) from the sheep found in 2015! Check out the before & after photos.


23 Apr 20 - 09:56 AM (#4047837)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy

Has it only been 15 years?

https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/23/tech/youtube-first-video-jawed-karim-trnd/index.html


23 Apr 20 - 10:32 PM (#4047985)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Sandra in Sydney

COVID-19 restrictions don't make sense to Jon, but letters from strangers are making a difference


23 Apr 20 - 10:51 PM (#4047990)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: JennieG

I plan to make Anzac bikkies tomorrow, first time in many a long year. Probably since my boys were in high school, which is *ahem* more than 20 years ago......

Recipe will come from the Commonsense Cookery Book, for many Aussies over the span of many years their first cook book on leaving home.


23 Apr 20 - 11:09 PM (#4047992)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy

Sandra, wrong thread, no biggie.


24 Apr 20 - 02:07 AM (#4048005)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mr Red

My sister used to make Anzac biscuits, and sent the NZ recipe book for mum to make them.


24 Apr 20 - 08:20 AM (#4048078)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy

Hmmm. Not new news, but not about the pandemic.

Tough thread, this.


24 Apr 20 - 08:48 AM (#4048091)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy

Here's something *and* it is music-related!

https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/16/us/chattanooga-tornado-church-piano-trnd/index.html


24 Apr 20 - 09:58 AM (#4048123)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Donuel

Americans are suffering from Trump fatigue to the point of completely giving up.
The unfathomable ignorance has no bottom.
We are shell shocked into submission.
All we can do is to ignore.
We need to look away.
We know it is
at our own
peril.
But
There will
be a renewed
interest as the election
is called into question or even be done.
All the dirty tricks in the book will be in full force.
The absurdity is to the point of abbandoning the sinking ship.
Twice in the last 2 Republican Presidents the US is robbed by bail outs


Millionares are getting $ while millions of americans scramble for food


24 Apr 20 - 09:59 AM (#4048124)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: gillymor

"Americans are suffering from Trump fatigue to the point of completely giving up." so true, Don. Most everyone I know is hunkered down in this very conservative district and just waiting for their chance to vote out this cretin. Judging from the Democrat turnout and the results in every election since and including the mid-terms,in spite of all the efforts at voter suppression, Americans are highly motivated to remove this malignancy.


25 Apr 20 - 01:27 PM (#4048408)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy

Kim jong un is apparently dead. Unsure if virus-related so posting in both threads.


25 Apr 20 - 10:23 PM (#4048476)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Sandra in Sydney

Normally only tourists are seen wearing Fly Mosquito Head Net Mesh Hat Face Protectors

but today workers in Central Australia have started wearing them - Booming fly population making life difficult in Australian outback, even four-legged workers!


25 Apr 20 - 10:30 PM (#4048478)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Joe Offer

Now, can you people in North Carolina and Michigan and Wisconsin send us some good news?


26 Apr 20 - 05:09 AM (#4048544)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Sandra in Sydney

How Navajo Code Talkers of World War II Saved the Day

messynessy - Blogging on the off-beat, the unique and the chic & a fantastic place to spend time (lose time?)


26 Apr 20 - 06:45 AM (#4048557)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Donuel

Mrrzy is correct, Kim is both dead and alive like Shrodingers cat.

On SNL Dr. Fauci was of course portrayed by...Brad Pitt.


26 Apr 20 - 09:09 AM (#4048605)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy

https://www.vox.com/2020/4/23/21232665/north-korea-kim-jong-un-coronavirus-sick

He may not even be sick.


28 Apr 20 - 10:36 AM (#4049110)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy

Ok, no two spaces after full stops:

https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/27/tech/microsoft-word-two-spaces-trnd/index.html


28 Apr 20 - 11:43 AM (#4049122)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mr Red

Americans are suffering from Trump fatigue to the point of completely giving up.

You are explaining his technique, if you can call a blunt instrument - technique.


28 Apr 20 - 11:50 AM (#4049124)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Sandra in Sydney

oh! yes, 2 spaces is a hangover from the old typewriter days,

As a picky, pedantic proofreader I get annoyed by spare spaces!

sandra


29 Apr 20 - 03:45 AM (#4049246)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mr Red

Oh      Really?


01 May 20 - 10:05 AM (#4049756)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy

I always thought the two spaces marked the slightly longer pause than adter a comma and its one space.

My phone, if I hit space twice, types a period and a space.

Meanwhile the Mars helicopter has a name:

https://www.space.com/nasa-mars-helicopter-named-ingenuity.html


03 May 20 - 11:11 AM (#4050130)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy

Also this:

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/sudan-outlawed-female-genital-mutilation-but-experts-warn-it-will-take-more-to-end-the-practice/


03 May 20 - 12:01 PM (#4050137)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Donuel

Society is getting more cynical and full of gallows humor.
Budget Nursing homes used to have happy pastoral names.
But more and more truth in advertising seems to be taking over.
Like:
Roach Motel Manor -they check in but...
Memory Loss Manor
Vertigo Village
Disorientation Terrace
Get Me Outta Here Gardens
Altzheimers Acres

D emented Gardens
E nd O’ Life Residence
A lmost Heaven Homes
D eathview Villas

Reaching The End Estates
Abandoned Here Pasteurs
Corona Cottages


04 May 20 - 08:43 AM (#4050345)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy

Murder hornets


04 May 20 - 11:34 AM (#4050408)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy

Hee hee who knew Autumn Down Under was so dangerous?

Man, dog and five camels rescued from fall in Australian bush


06 May 20 - 09:05 AM (#4050814)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy

Also check out this pic of moon composed all of terminator images as moon waxed to full, seriously lovely:

https://www.livescience.com/terminator-moon-composite-image.html


08 May 20 - 08:43 AM (#4051203)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy

Germany grows up some

https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/08/europe/germany-gay-conversion-therapy-ban-intl-scli-grm/index.html


08 May 20 - 04:33 PM (#4051298)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy

Aaand astronaut pee = lunar concrete

https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_5eb58485c5b6197b8461b289


11 May 20 - 08:50 AM (#4051798)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy

Ben Stiller's dad, so sorry.


12 May 20 - 03:47 AM (#4051928)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mr Red

Cool stuff! And neanderthals had string. - is that a string theory they can actually prove?

Not to be picky or pedantic, but it might have been a binding to hold the flint on a stick. eg axe they say, and not to be cutting maybe even be a knife say I.


12 May 20 - 08:06 AM (#4051991)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy

Penna becomes 3rd US state to ban child marriage! Woohoo!


13 May 20 - 08:38 PM (#4052336)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Dorothy Parshall

Mrrzy:

For a reason I no longer remember, I get a daily email with the 5 top stories of the Virginia Pilot. I have been delighting in what goes on in VA! It gives me hope that at least one State is making good choices!

(I am in Canada.)


14 May 20 - 03:21 AM (#4052383)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mr Red

I found a tricorn walnut today. How's that for unusual? Inside was tricorn too. Tasted the same.

I only buy them for the craic.








I'll get my face mask


14 May 20 - 04:57 AM (#4052393)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Doug Chadwick

Penna becomes 3rd US state to ban child marriage! Woohoo!

Mrrzy, I am confused. I had assumed that Penna was an abbreviation of Pennsylvania but, according to Wikipedia: "Since 2018, three states, Pennsylvania, Delaware and New Jersey have banned underage marriages without exception."

It would appear that whichever state you are referring to is, at least, the 4th.

If one of the participants is underage, how can the marriage be legal?
If it is not legal, why is specific legislation required to ban it?
In the case of child marriages, up to what age are people still considered to be a child?

DC


14 May 20 - 05:15 AM (#4052395)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Doug Chadwick

The questions in the last paragraph of my 04:47 AM post were rhetorical. I am not expecting you to justify anything, Mrrzy. As you say, whoohoo!

DC


14 May 20 - 05:19 AM (#4052396)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Doug Chadwick

... of my 04:57 post...


14 May 20 - 09:56 AM (#4052434)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy

Before, yes Pennsylvania, you could marry underage with judge's or parental permission. Wiki (shocked, shocked!) must have been mistaken...


14 May 20 - 10:01 AM (#4052436)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Donuel

Can a 12 year old get married in the US?
Hell yes with judicial or parental consent, children as young as 10, 11 and 12 have been married in the U.S. in the last couple of decades. When exceptions are taken into consideration, 25 states actually do not have an absolute minimum marriageable age.

In a way I married a 12 year old in that I am 12 years older than my one and only.


14 May 20 - 02:23 PM (#4052479)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Doug Chadwick

"Since 2018, three states, Pennsylvania, Delaware and New Jersey have banned underage marriages without exception."


OK, I should have read the Wekipedia page more thoroughly. I took it that the three states had their bans in place since 2018. In fact, they brought them in at different times and not in the order listed. The page has been recently updated to include Pennsylvania, which is identified further down the page as having brought in the ban this month. Confusion over.

DC


15 May 20 - 01:02 PM (#4052632)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy

Ooh ooh new Trek!

https://variety.com/2020/tv/news/star-trek-series-anson-mount-ethan-peck-rebecca-romijn-cbs-all-access-1234607259/


16 May 20 - 08:32 AM (#4052738)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy

Neural communication without synspses:

https://www.sciencealert.com/neuroscientists-think-they-ve-found-an-entirely-new-form-of-neural-communication


16 May 20 - 10:27 AM (#4052763)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Donuel

"To ensure that the slice was completely cut, the two pieces of tissue were separated and then rejoined while a clear gap was observed under the surgical microscope," the authors explained in their paper.

"The slow hippocampal periodic activity could indeed generate an event on the other side of a complete cut through the whole slice."

If you think that sounds freaky, you're not the only one. The review committee at The Journal of Physiology – in which the research has been published – insisted the experiments be completed again before agreeing to print the study.

Mrrzy, now imagine not just a slight gap but a distance measured in meters or more in which info is transmitted and received.

Also checkout; nano tubuels and brain communication
The 'Egg' project in communicating info before and after a mass event.
CIA and FBI war regarding remote viewing.


16 May 20 - 10:36 AM (#4052767)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Donuel

Third eye spies non fiction


16 May 20 - 01:30 PM (#4052806)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy

Ha! Non-fiction! Guffaw!


16 May 20 - 01:37 PM (#4052809)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Donuel

Did you watch it?


17 May 20 - 06:54 AM (#4052994)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy

The post? Yes. Guffaw again.


17 May 20 - 08:46 AM (#4053025)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Donuel

We have found your reality horizon?

If so do not go here


17 May 20 - 09:15 AM (#4053031)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Donuel

For 40 years or more this is my reality horizon
https://blog.nationalgeographic.org/2011/09/06/911-and-global-consciousness/


17 May 20 - 09:25 AM (#4053034)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy

And an attack on a maternity ward in Afghanistan.


18 May 20 - 05:01 AM (#4053238)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mr Red

"The slow hippocampal periodic activity could indeed generate an event on the other side of a complete cut through the whole slice."

Quantum entanglement?
Jim Al-Khalili (et al) reckon the way our olfactory system & the way European Robins navigate is via quantum entanglement. If it is present in the body - who nose? (sic)

Spooky action at a distance.....................


18 May 20 - 07:47 AM (#4053276)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Donuel

NANO TUBUELS give our brains quantum scale communication.
They are too small to see with anything but electron microscopes and only recently discovered.

Senseing entanglement or discovering instant communication is objectivly only a possible truth today but I would not rule it out even though current knowledge is relatively blind to this emerging surprise.


18 May 20 - 11:45 AM (#4053327)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mr Red

'Ere, U sayin' Ima quatum computer?


18 May 20 - 03:14 PM (#4053375)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Donuel

I'm sayin a books worth. This brain of ours has the ability to see beyond the split second of now and can peer into the fuzziness of future and past, pick up on info like manna blowin in the wind and see with far more than our eyes.

I am not saying everyone can do this.


20 May 20 - 01:22 PM (#4053982)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: leeneia

Yesterday somebody landed a small airplane on I-470 in the thriving suburb of Lee's Summit, Missouri. FYI - An 'I' road is an interstate freeway, like a motorway in the UK or the Autobahn in Germany. This was in the middle of the afternoon, and the only mishap was that one wing tipped a freeway sign. (The plane had lost one of its two engines.)

Having driven the freeways of my area (Kansas City) I was convinced that most of the drivers don't know what they are doing, but now my hat is off to the drivers who handled this situation so well.

==========
Come to think of it, what's the French for freeway?


20 May 20 - 01:58 PM (#4053989)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Donuel

My guess is Arterie

2 dimensional drivers made room for the 3 D voyaging plane.
Seeing the plane above and behind you is a challenge.
We 3 D beings can make extra room for 4 D tourists.
Seeing them is tricky like seeing flashes of
glowing globes that
ignore walls


20 May 20 - 02:16 PM (#4053994)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Doug Chadwick

Come to think of it, what's the French for freeway?

L'autoroute

DC


20 May 20 - 03:40 PM (#4054015)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Donuel

Its not Mille Bornes?


21 May 20 - 03:47 PM (#4054236)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: leeneia

Thanks, Doug. Now I remember encountering "autoroute."

When I thought more about the airplane landing on the freeway, I realized that the common bad habit of driving in tight clumps paid off for once. The pilot managed to line up with empty space between clumps, and the cars behind let the plane in.

Well, I'm sure it was not that simple. The plane could have been going 140 mph, the DH tells me.

I, who always aim to drive between clumps, would have messed it all up. Good thing I avoid driving on the freeway in town.


21 May 20 - 05:25 PM (#4054255)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Donuel

You call it driving in clumps which is a good observation but bad conclusion.
Traffic actually moves like a WORM stretching and contracting.
Once cars are slowed by cars in front of them a clump forms. The gap behind is thinned out as they play a brief catch up game. Blood even moves in a similar fashion.


22 May 20 - 11:42 AM (#4054376)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy

The US is getting globally shorter, and I don't mean the population:

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/22/science/maps-elevation-geodetic-survey.html

Blicky


22 May 20 - 03:45 PM (#4054433)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Donuel

Mrrzy you remind me that the only thing that does not exist in our cosmos is something that does not move.


23 May 20 - 09:00 AM (#4054565)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy

Hmmm. I can think of lots of other nonexistent things! But hey.


23 May 20 - 07:37 PM (#4054699)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Donuel

Name one
I bet they all move though. I don't know how to prove non existence.
We assume the properties of space are the same elswhere as here.
We keep getting surprised.


24 May 20 - 03:45 PM (#4054895)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy

If it is nonexistent, motion is moot. Or non-applicable.

Beards evolved to help men take punches:

https://academic.oup.com/iob/article/2/1/obaa005/5799080

Blicky


24 May 20 - 06:16 PM (#4054923)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Donuel

Ha. I guess good themes for PHd dissertations are getting rare.

Massless particles must always move at the speed of light unless it passes through mass. Mass can never go as fast as light.
One of the tricks to slowing light to a halt is creating a cloud of nearly motionless atoms at near absolute zero (-460 degrees Fahrenheit). This is called a Bose-Einstein condensate.
But everything wants to move. Existence is moot and just an aspect of language.

CAN gravitons which move at the speed of light be slowed down or stopped at absolute zero? If so, anti gravity could be manipulated.
I want an anti gravity car.


24 May 20 - 06:43 PM (#4054930)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Donuel

The problem is that gravity may be an emergent force that comes from 2   or more force vectors, which means that gravitons may be only a figment of our imagination.
We tend to think of gravity as an enormous force but it is actually the tinyist.


25 May 20 - 12:37 PM (#4055104)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mr Red

If so, anti gravity could be manipulated.

Call me simplistic, but.

I predict that if, and it is a big if, we find anti-gravity, we will find negative time, or negative mass. Gravity comes out of how mass interacts with space-time, ne c'est pas?


25 May 20 - 02:07 PM (#4055126)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy

Asimov wrote a great short story about someone inventing a gravity-less field and putting it, for demo purposes, on a billiards table, asking a rival scientist (poopoo-er) to play. The cue-struck ball took off at the speed of light, punching a hole through the poopoo-ed scientist, because it was actually a mass-less field and things with no mass travel at the speed of light...

Also one about a quantum black hole which punches a microscopic hole with huge tidal effects through another poopoo-ing rival scientist.

Don't poopoo Asimov's science!


25 May 20 - 04:05 PM (#4055141)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Donuel

Gravity-less conditions to create a null gravity zone (not anti gravity) is possibly not the problem. How does incredible inertia free accelleration work? If you master the inertia free maneuvering thing perhaps gravity wouldn't even matter. Yeah we always refer to warping space as an answer. Now how do you create a confined parastaltic motion in space time and remain in the center of it, like a turd in a space time intestine? Humans can manipulate mass and even turn it into E.
But have we manipulated space? -nope- I have long postulated that black holes generate space and neutrinos like a wild factory. At least it is a good place to start looking.

{Trekies would see this as the Romulan warp drive theory as opposed to the Federation method} :^/


26 May 20 - 06:47 AM (#4055231)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Doug Chadwick

I read a really good book about anti-gravity. I just couldn't put it down!

DC


26 May 20 - 10:40 AM (#4055279)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy

Snicker.

And news on our magnetic field is getting interesting...

https://www.sciencealert.com/mysterious-anomaly-weakening-earth-s-magnetic-field-seems-to-be-splitting-into-two/amp


26 May 20 - 11:11 AM (#4055290)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Doug Chadwick


26 May 20 - 01:33 PM (#4055328)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mr Red

articles says - Earth's magnetic field is constantly in a state of flux

Pun not intended I would guess. The unit of Tesla is a measure of what we electrical engineers call magnetic flux.

But the South Atlantic anomaly reminds me of Jupiter's red spot. I have seen experiments with rotating inner core with viscous fluids as thin layers and they often produce a single large eddy. And our molten outer cored is just such a system, a viscous layer trapped. And Earths magnetic field is produced by a rotating core we are told.

Well that's my take. Other than the warning that the magnetic pole reversals won't go in one huge flip, it will most likely appear "reversed" in spots, say those that study these things. Timescale long.

We may get a hint of what to expect any day in our life time. The last big coronal mass ejection to hit the Earth was the Carrington Event in 1859 and it wasn't pretty.
viz
A solar storm of this magnitude occurring today would cause widespread electrical disruptions, blackouts and damage due to extended outages of the electrical grid. - bloody coronas and people think the virus is THE big deal! Keep that food/bogroll hoard topped up, there is no predicting...................


26 May 20 - 07:43 PM (#4055386)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Donuel

Pole flips are old news

Sci fi chuckles to serious investigation
https://www.sciencealert.com/how-feasible-is-a-warp-drive-here-s-the-science


26 May 20 - 08:07 PM (#4055387)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Donuel

If you are seriously interested
https://youtu.be/Wokn7crjBbA


27 May 20 - 06:10 AM (#4055433)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Donuel

New view of Earth and Moon


27 May 20 - 06:30 AM (#4055437)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Doug Chadwick

A doctor arrived at his surgery one morning to find a large bag on the doorstep. He looked inside and found a new born baby with a note saying "Please look after my child". As a medical professional, he knew that it was a responsibility he could not shirk but there would be so many forms to fill in and he had patients waiting. He took it inside and examined it. As the baby seemed in good health, he decided to deal with his morning patients before handing it over for further care.

The first patient was the local vicar, a hypochondriac whom the doctor knew well. He had suffered every disease known to man and, this morning, was complaining of acute stomach pains. The doctor suspected trapped wind but thought that if, this time, he could convince him that it really was something serious, it might shock him out of his hypochondria. The situation gave him the opportunity to kill two birds with one stone.

He told the vicar to drop his trousers, lie on the examination table and open his legs. The doctor then pressed on the vicar's belly, causing him to let out a long fart. The doctor picked up the baby and said "Congratulations! You have given birth to a healthy boy".
"B..b..but I can't have done" stammered the vicar, "It's not possible!"
"God moves in mysterious ways" replied the doctor.

The vicar, being a good Christian, accepted his apparent responsibilities a brought the child up as his own. When the boy reached the age of 18, the vicar thought that it was time that he knew the truth. It was a difficult conversation but it had to be done. He said "You have always been my son and always will be. You have grown up calling me Dad but, in fact, I am not ACTUALLY you father.

Looking rather shocked at the news, the young man asked "Then who is my father?"

In an anguished tone, the vicar replied "The bishop!"


DC


27 May 20 - 06:34 AM (#4055438)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Doug Chadwick

OOPS! WRONG THREAD.

Could a MudElf please delete the above post, together with this one. I will repost it in the Joke thread.

Sorry,
DC


27 May 20 - 08:36 AM (#4055460)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy

Nice view of earth and moon, Donuel. Lovely.


27 May 20 - 02:51 PM (#4055505)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy

Also can watch space launch today space.com or nasa.gov


29 May 20 - 05:27 PM (#4055887)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Donuel

About 500 businesses are burned or destroyed along with a police station by a race riot over more murders by police of black people.
I made a complete list but is too much data to post


29 May 20 - 05:49 PM (#4055890)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Donuel

DemonstrTIONS HAVE SPREAD TO aTLANTA sAN jOSE wASHINGTON dc...


29 May 20 - 06:41 PM (#4055898)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy

Seriously, can't we just grow the fuck *up* already.


30 May 20 - 07:15 AM (#4055974)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Donuel

Its very hard to grow up when you are murdered legally by indemic institutional racism before you have a chance to grow up.


30 May 20 - 05:16 PM (#4056107)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Donuel

OK mods enough trying to exponge any mention of GEORGE FLOYD

REMOVING legal arguements regarding 1st degree murder is jeuvenile


30 May 20 - 10:32 PM (#4056132)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy

Wrong thread for that conversation. It has its own.


01 Jun 20 - 06:50 PM (#4056573)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy

Ebola is breaking out again, in the Congo. (Not *that* virus.)


03 Jun 20 - 07:13 PM (#4057051)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Sandra in Sydney

Australia - Endangered animal breaks into shop & trips alarms


04 Jun 20 - 07:34 AM (#4057150)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy

37 kids stabbed in China...


04 Jun 20 - 02:59 PM (#4057254)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy

The death of the last American to receive Civil War pension!

https://www.washingtonpost.com/history/2020/06/04/she-was-last-american-collect-civil-war-pension-7313-month-she-just-died/


04 Jun 20 - 09:48 PM (#4057334)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Sandra in Sydney

thanks for posting the story, Mrrzy, some years back I read about much younger second wives of Civil War veterans & thought the story might be about a widow's death.

Back in the 70s I had an older friend who was a 2nd generation Australian. She was born before or during the first world war, a late child of a man whose father arrived in Australia in 1793, 5 years after British settlement.

sandra


04 Jun 20 - 11:49 PM (#4057339)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Donuel

When I was a little kid some older folks could remember that the President when they were kids was Ulysses S. Grant. They said the S stands for secret.


05 Jun 20 - 08:24 AM (#4057440)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy

When I was growing up, we had old cousins whose parents had been kids during the Civil War. It was like that Ray Bradbury story about the time machine, hearing them tell their parents' stories.


05 Jun 20 - 08:41 AM (#4057446)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy

This today from cnn: looking bad for Trump in electoral college!

https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/04/politics/electoral-map-2020-election-donald-trump-joe-biden/index.html


06 Jun 20 - 11:21 AM (#4057670)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy

And we are tunneling on Mars

https://www.universetoday.com/146361/finally-mars-insights-mole-is-now-underground/


11 Jun 20 - 08:11 AM (#4058759)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy

Aaaand more massacre in Nigeria

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/africa/nigeria-borno-state-attack-coronavirus/2020/06/10/0147e06a-ab1b-11ea-a43b-be9f6494a87d_story.html


12 Jun 20 - 02:54 AM (#4058882)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mr Red

This today from cnn: looking bad for Trump in electoral college!

It is hope, but what people say to pollsters, and how they vote does not always tally. Given Twitler's record, people would be ashamed to admit to liking him. But they also vote for a party, so you have to ask the right question. And even then, polls and votes are different.

The UK had an expression "Shy Tories". And it proved decisive.

Be afraid America, be very afraid.


12 Jun 20 - 09:23 AM (#4058928)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy

It get worse: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-sanctions-international-criminal-court-us-war-crimes-investigation-a9561901.html?amp

Sanctioning in the sense of punish, not permit, the ICC so Murrican military can't get done for their war crimes.


14 Jun 20 - 11:24 AM (#4059257)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Donuel

The mudcat pandemic thread has fallen off the front page.
This is the ideal time to get infected when your guard is down.
The virus is still content to infect at a 50% contagion rate.
We need to have a discontented virus.

Welcome to the second half of stage one. On a NIH conference call Dr. Fauci was asked why Trump acts as if he is immune. He said he told the president that in a time with no cure, anything is better than nothing except those things that are worse to your health. The prsident asked if their was vaccine he could have now and Fauci told him he could have a Faucine today. What's a Faucine? Thats where I spit on my hand and shake yours.


14 Jun 20 - 11:37 AM (#4059261)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy

If ya wanna add to the virus thread do, but don't contaminate this obe while complaining the other isn't here.


15 Jun 20 - 03:20 PM (#4059366)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy

Ooh you go SCOTUS! Sexual identity and orientation are, too, covered by the civil rights act, so there!


15 Jun 20 - 08:11 PM (#4059420)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy

And this, from Forbes of all places:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/jamiecartereurope/2020/06/15/there-are-36-intelligent-alien-civilizations-in-our-galaxy-say-scientists/amp/

Blicky


16 Jun 20 - 07:13 AM (#4059496)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Donuel

Only 36 civilizations? Do humans count?


16 Jun 20 - 08:31 AM (#4059516)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Donuel

The Dropa civilization is one of the more prolific in our area.

They are curious of us too
Note you will not see 'debris' but the distinctive Dropa swarm of crafts.   nasa video of STS 75


18 Jun 20 - 08:28 AM (#4059851)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Donuel

Is the UK a nuclear power?
Is Finland part of Russia?
Why don't we use nuclear weapons more?

Things Trump has asked


18 Jun 20 - 12:16 PM (#4059903)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy

Go SCOTUS again! DACA stays!


18 Jun 20 - 05:08 PM (#4059966)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Donuel

Trump did have the right to challenge DACA, a mere presidential order, the Supreme court found his argument for doing so was insufficint when his legal team argued "because Obama did it".


21 Jun 20 - 10:10 AM (#4060551)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy

Women seeking abortions are right about why they wanted one...

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jun/20/abortion-denied-debt-bankruptcy-eviction


21 Jun 20 - 11:33 AM (#4060566)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Sandra in Sydney

Intact six-metre long whale backbone washes ashore, Australia


27 Jun 20 - 09:35 AM (#4061682)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy

Totally cool, Sandra in Sydney.

And in *other* virus news, the Ebola outbreak is being declared controlled.


29 Jun 20 - 12:11 PM (#4062032)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy

And the Supreme Court, in another spasm of adulting, strikes down Louisiana's abortion restrictions.


30 Jun 20 - 03:33 PM (#4062213)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy

On the other hand, quoting Slate, John Roberts Just Bulldozed the Wall Separating Church and State.

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2020/06/supreme-court-espinoza-montana-religious-schools.html

Blicky.


06 Jul 20 - 08:29 AM (#4063067)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy

Yay the awful Atlantic pipeline idea is no more!


06 Jul 20 - 08:33 AM (#4063069)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy

Blicky no paywall


06 Jul 20 - 04:45 PM (#4063140)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy

What do you guys think of SCOTUS saying No faithless electors?

One view on Slate.


07 Jul 20 - 12:02 PM (#4063243)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy

And fish eggs, soft tiny things, can survive gizzard stones, stomach acid, and the rest of a goose's digestive system. Goose poop can spead invasive fish species. Cool.


07 Jul 20 - 06:12 PM (#4063281)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Donuel

SCOTUS has not helped Trump regarding faithless electors


Geese can change the biome of wetlands via bacteria.


09 Jul 20 - 04:03 PM (#4063542)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy

Gary Larson is back! New Far Side cartoons! Yay!


13 Jul 20 - 06:43 PM (#4064073)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy

Prez of Ivory Coast resigns, following death of prime minister. Iyé aconde quoi?


13 Jul 20 - 06:46 PM (#4064074)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy

Oops Veep. Still!


14 Jul 20 - 05:57 AM (#4064110)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Donuel

tonight over the UK


14 Jul 20 - 11:50 AM (#4064154)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy

Wow, beautiful, thanks Donuel!


15 Jul 20 - 07:05 AM (#4064233)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mr Red

China is not out of the woods yet. 6 Quakes, 3 dams at risk, serious flooding, and grain quality scandals. All that without Hong Kong.

The 3 Gorges Dam is not entirely out of risk, it can't hold any more water so floods downstream are serious.


16 Jul 20 - 08:32 AM (#4064417)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Donuel

The taxidemist was like the secretary of state in ancient Egypt. I did 2 taxidermy cartoons. 1 was a tax attorny taxidermy and the other was the chancellory of Taxidermy. I too discovered digital cartooning but 10 years ago/


16 Jul 20 - 08:57 AM (#4064418)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Donuel

my cartoons are too monstrous or controversial to be published but times are achangin. My last cartoon was of 5th avenue looking through a large hole in the back of a black man's head revealing Trump holding a smoking gun. See what I mean.


16 Jul 20 - 05:17 PM (#4064479)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy

Has anybody seen the comet?


21 Jul 20 - 08:57 AM (#4065261)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy

I saw it. What was cool was knowing about it.

Also this.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/20/world/god-good-pew-survey/index.html


23 Jul 20 - 07:00 PM (#4065618)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy

I stuck something on the new team name for the WashDC [American] football team into the BLM thread.


25 Jul 20 - 09:32 AM (#4065784)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Donuel

Money is more likely to answer prayers than a fickle god.


WTF-Washington Tough Football [the toughs]


31 Jul 20 - 02:37 PM (#4066744)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy

Sperm swim like otters, not like snakes or eels. Cool 3D pix available here.


31 Jul 20 - 05:31 PM (#4066754)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Donuel

France is building their first fusion reactor (*)


31 Jul 20 - 07:17 PM (#4066770)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: robomatic

I listened to the show about sperm this morning on NPRs Science Friday. But somehow I cannot imagine that is news. I'm pretty sure I've seen some HD documentaries which show sperm doing the corkscrew motion. Plus, from Antonie van Leeuwenhoek who first saw (his own) magnified sperm in motion, people weren't stupid and so must have appreciated that they were observing what they could see only in 2 dimensions. So, interesting story, but I think it's being hyped.


31 Jul 20 - 07:23 PM (#4066772)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Donuel

My random thoughts are not news either but why be critical?
Watch a baseball game and you may see statisics being made or an unlikely tremendous play so while we see the same game we each bring something different to the experience. Parts of the 'unlikely' IS enjoyment of the game. SO this is why baseball entertains us. It is a demonstration of the wierdness of quantum mechanics. It is true anyone who says they understand quantum mechanics - doesn't.

Sometimes it may even be a boring game, which is wierd in itself.
I've wondered about the split screen experiment since I was 13
Probabilities have shown us that we can get entangled with a destructive moron becoming President. We can complain when reality isn't rational BUT ITS NOT. Perhaps we should make a new kind of computer that uses spooky action at a distance and employ only entangled atoms - instead of electrons and calculate an accidental utopia just for grins and giggles.
But a game of all home runs would not appeal to us for long.
Wierdness is a strength And Not A Weakness.
It is our raison d'etre.


01 Aug 20 - 07:16 AM (#4066830)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy

You could easily be right about sperm, robomatic, too!


01 Aug 20 - 09:54 AM (#4066848)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Donuel

Theft proof electric bike VanMoof

Satillie tracking and free replacement does the trick


03 Aug 20 - 07:39 AM (#4067098)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Donuel

The motion of sperm mirrors the sprial progression of DNA.
The same motion of the solar system in its orbit around the galaxy.
Its the same mathematic and geometric path a pendulum takes through time. The human egg also sprials in its free fall journey through the Fallopian tube.

Ain't life cool. At least its the way I see it.


03 Aug 20 - 07:51 AM (#4067100)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Donuel

Here is a way to see an xyz pendulum over time https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VXwYLKFJoUk#:~:text=This%20pendulum%20is%20mesmerizing%20to,another%20plane%20at%20right%20angle


04 Aug 20 - 08:14 AM (#4067246)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy

Also, perseids.


06 Aug 20 - 12:52 PM (#4067510)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Donuel

RE: Singing -
things you don't want to know


06 Aug 20 - 10:31 PM (#4067564)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy

That fascinating article should go above the line!


07 Aug 20 - 01:28 AM (#4067575)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: robomatic

My bonnie lass sends me her droplets
They flash in their phoneme streams
And I catch them on my tonsil goblets
I turn them to memories and memes


08 Aug 20 - 03:23 PM (#4067742)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy

Bring back my gobbets?

Meanwhile Liberty U seems to have fired Jerry Falwell. Lessee how well he falls...


09 Aug 20 - 08:29 AM (#4067787)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy

The Supreme Court has just okayed laws that force women impregnated by rape to tell their rapist before being able to get an abortion *and* give him more of a say if he's over 18 and she isn't. Also outlawing medical [non-surgical] abortions. Sigh.


11 Aug 20 - 07:36 AM (#4067979)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Donuel

A 3D ZOOM https://portlhologram.com/


11 Aug 20 - 04:56 PM (#4068044)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy

Kamala Harris


15 Aug 20 - 11:21 AM (#4068454)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Donuel

Aricebo telescope ruined https://www.space.com/arecibo-observatory-cable-failure-investigation.html

That leaves https://www.sciencealert.com/china-s-huge-500-meter-fast-radio-telescope-is-finally-up-and-running


15 Aug 20 - 11:45 AM (#4068456)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy

I read about the telescope but thought it was damaged, not ruined...


09 Sep 20 - 04:06 PM (#4071348)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy

Somebody has nominated Trump for the Nobel Peace Prize.


09 Sep 20 - 04:12 PM (#4071350)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Stilly River Sage

He has said he hoped that would happen, telegraphing to his followers to give it a shot.


27 Sep 20 - 07:38 PM (#4073396)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy

NYT got the tax returns!


https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/09/27/us/donald-trump-taxes.html

Also posted to Elections thread.


21 Oct 20 - 05:29 PM (#4076354)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy

And now for something completely different:

https://neurosciencenews.com/electromagnetic-consciousness-17191/amp/

Blicky.


23 Oct 20 - 08:08 AM (#4076527)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Donuel

Consciousness is EM but also quantum tubule* communication.
The 'empty' limbic system is also far more than a shock absorber.
*an actual neural structure.

Mrrzy likes pot more than bacon
This is a loss for our nation.
If he ended the smoke
and laid off the toke
We'd have a world class statesman.


23 Oct 20 - 01:44 PM (#4076551)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy

Teehee


24 Oct 20 - 11:02 AM (#4076676)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Donuel

Come explore a real Disneyland a century before our US fake one.
https://www.atlasobscura.com/places/quinta-da-regaleira


25 Oct 20 - 01:47 PM (#4076775)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Donuel

whirlled series game 4 was won on the last play which contained 5 errors on that 1 play alone. Still that was better than the Washington football team. They didnt even bother to recover their own fumble on the goal line. What I see is that sports are not taking 2o2o seriously and why should they. There are more serious things.


25 Oct 20 - 04:15 PM (#4076801)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Stilly River Sage

I keep forgetting that the World Series is on, since I typically don't watch sports. But that would have been fun to watch.


26 Oct 20 - 07:34 AM (#4076887)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Donuel

The hit was not caught in right field and when he finally threw to 3rd base the runner was on his way home when he FELL DOWN. The pitcher got distracted and forgot to back up home plate. The runner got up and the 3rd baseman threw home which the catcher could not catch. With no back up the ball sailed away allowing the runner to reach home which he kept comicly pounding with his hands.


26 Oct 20 - 09:07 AM (#4076895)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Bonzo3legs

Very glad to see that a contingent of SBS were able to board an oil tanker in worsening weather by "fast roping" from a helicopter 5 miles off the Isle of Wight, to detain a group of stowaways who illegally boarded the tanker in Nigeria, had turned violent!!!


26 Oct 20 - 05:12 PM (#4076944)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Bonzo3legs

4 helicopters it seems were used to fast rope down to the tanker. It took just 7 minutes for our excellent SBS boys to secure the ship, and detain the hijackers who will now doubt face substantial prison terms and subsequent deportation!!!!!!!


29 Oct 20 - 12:06 AM (#4077196)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy

Lorises are venomous.


19 Nov 20 - 01:27 PM (#4080265)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy

Aw...

https://www.theverge.com/platform/amp/2020/11/19/21575025/arecibo-observatory-puerto-rico-decommission-structural-collapse-cable-break


24 Nov 20 - 04:57 PM (#4080837)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy

Scotland makes all period products free. I am stifling obvious puns.


30 Nov 20 - 07:13 PM (#4081466)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy

What is with the monoliths, Utah and Romania?


01 Dec 20 - 12:00 AM (#4081482)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Stilly River Sage

Don't you love it?


02 Dec 20 - 04:45 PM (#4081704)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy

The Chinese lander is collecting moonrocks.


02 Dec 20 - 07:04 PM (#4081711)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Donuel

Mrrzy Aricebo was teenyweenieanyway but geta load of this one


03 Dec 20 - 12:53 PM (#4081795)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy

Ooh a third mono-not-lith! California.


03 Dec 20 - 04:13 PM (#4081808)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy

Aaaand... The Romania one has vanished.


03 Dec 20 - 04:40 PM (#4081816)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy

Aaand ... the California one has also vanished!


03 Dec 20 - 11:54 PM (#4081853)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Donuel

OMG there's a monolith under the tree at the white house


04 Dec 20 - 07:14 PM (#4081953)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy

Ooh ooh the US House just passed pot decriminalization! It won't go farther but hey [*cough cough*]!


04 Dec 20 - 07:54 PM (#4081955)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Donuel

I don't know what comprises dark matter exactly but I know where it came from. It came from the annihilation of matter and anti matter, Besides the energy release from matter being converted, there is a certain amount of residue in which the energy converted to matter. But what kind of matter? Certainly one which had the property of gravity but not made of normal atoms.
How about an experiment to create dark matter? We need a shitload (scientific term) of antimatter and measure what dissappears in annihilation radiation (E) and how much is converted to Mass and how much disappears (C). This will be a first measurment. The results will give us more understanding and questions.

I have a sneaking suspicion the mass is all quarks and neutrinos with no protons, neutrons and electrons. If they loan me the LHC I might blow it up but at least learn something new.


04 Dec 20 - 08:08 PM (#4081957)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Donuel

We see what dark energy is doing but how?
By converting time into space inside a singularity.
Not just converting mass into energy like a star but something bigger.
https://www.einstein-online.info/en/spotlight/changing_places/


04 Dec 20 - 08:24 PM (#4081959)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Donuel

If you got lost just remember that the magical transformation begins when Time stops, making the black hole an eternal space making factory.
Eternal up until energy and space can balance no longer and rips bringing the entire cosmos into a lower energy state - even black holes die in such a rip.


04 Dec 20 - 10:41 PM (#4081965)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy

That's not news.

*This* is news: DACA's back!

Blicky.


05 Dec 20 - 09:50 AM (#4082000)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Stilly River Sage

That's certainly better news that the viral videos of Giuliani farting. I haven't opened any of those links for fear someone has invented smellivision.


05 Dec 20 - 02:00 PM (#4082033)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy

I was watching a cooking show where the host wished we in the audience had smell-o-vision. I want it, but only for the cooking shows.


05 Dec 20 - 04:17 PM (#4082054)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Donuel

We have 3 kinds of neutrinos that change as they travel, maybe just maybe dark neutrinos don't travel. Speculation ain't news by a long shot but the Cosmos is a stage for entertainment. My human bias
is believing one thing leads to another. Its probably 2 things create a third....


06 Dec 20 - 02:45 PM (#4082175)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Nigel Parsons

From: Mrrzy
Date: 24 Nov 20 - 04:57 PM
Scotland makes all period products free. I am stifling obvious puns.


You may ignore the obvious puns. Some of us don't have the same self-control.
Scotland is not a rich country. For this new announcement I wonder what the 'monthly' expenditure is.


06 Dec 20 - 09:55 PM (#4082205)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy

These days? Bwahaha.


07 Dec 20 - 08:40 AM (#4082241)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy

Any idea what is sickening hundreds of people that is not covid? Southern India, convulsions and nausea, possibly no deaths though. Likely water-borne.

One blicky.


08 Dec 20 - 01:08 PM (#4082470)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy

And another mono-not-lith, in Britain!


08 Dec 20 - 05:09 PM (#4082504)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Donuel

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/christmas-star-will-be-closest-visible-conjunction-jupiter-saturn-800-n1250418


09 Dec 20 - 05:08 PM (#4082654)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy

Going back to language pet peeves, conflating a planetary phenom with xianity just chaps my cheeks.


11 Dec 20 - 09:05 AM (#4082905)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Donuel

Happy Ckkhunukah.
Don't miss out on online dreidel gambling
https://abcnews.go.com/GMA/Weekend/dreidel-invented-dreidel-games-generation/story?id=9315727


13 Dec 20 - 07:30 AM (#4083219)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Donuel

The few new movies that are being made are Sci. Fi.
People are in spacesuits or walking a lonely post apocolyptic desert.
An example is the new Cloony movie Midnight Sun.

The sequel is still alive; 'Return of the prequel', 'Back to the Jedi', 'Rocky Home Alone XI', 'Harry Potter and the Michilein Man', Germinator on Mars II, 'The Thing Whatever III', 'Man in the Cotton Mask 6'.


14 Dec 20 - 04:36 PM (#4083444)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy

And again, go scotus! They have refused to damage marriage equality.


15 Dec 20 - 08:32 AM (#4083554)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy

And Cleveland is dropping the name and I do so hope the cartoon mascot of their sportsball team. Go Cleveland.


16 Dec 20 - 10:48 AM (#4083735)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Donuel

They lay eggs, they have fur, they make venom, they are amphibious live on land have a duck bill. And now it has finally been discovered that the Platypus glows under black light. https://www.livescience.com/platypuses-glow-uv-light.html

Maybe in antiquity the Platypus was the winner of genetic manipulation contest by an advanced civilization.


16 Dec 20 - 11:22 AM (#4083746)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy

What the *fuck* was evolution thinking.

But the platypus is no longer the only venomous mammal, slow lorises have venom too.

This is a straaaange planet.


16 Dec 20 - 01:06 PM (#4083768)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Donuel

They look like lemurs.


18 Dec 20 - 05:40 AM (#4083970)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Donuel

I have an updated theory of evolution.
Survival of the most joyous and good feelings.

On a quantum level of cillia on a paramecium to a human being's comprable micro tubuels in our pryamidial cells the good feelings of being alive and reproducing are factors in the continuation and groth of life.
The power of orgasm derives all life in the universe.
If it feels good, its alive. This an eastern concept that life is derived from the innate joyous universe and not just organization and computation by accident or pan spermia.


19 Dec 20 - 08:03 PM (#4084202)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Sandra in Sydney

Adelaide firefighter's unique gold ring recovered after 13 years offshore, found by a metal detectorist


21 Dec 20 - 02:41 PM (#4084485)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Donuel

Poison Underwear


21 Dec 20 - 02:44 PM (#4084487)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Donuel

Solstice tonight


23 Dec 20 - 04:50 PM (#4084745)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy

Nanoplastic is showing up in human placentas, both sides, fetal and maternal.


26 Dec 20 - 12:45 PM (#4085075)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Donuel

An observation and not news;
All the worst winter flavors are here like Spiced pumpkin wintergreened cranberry paw-paw. Mmmm plastic pumpkin, Krayzee Krapberry and Extreme Ginger ill. Novochuck swirl is not bad.
Satan will hate to see 2020 end.










.


27 Dec 20 - 03:40 PM (#4085221)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy

What do we think about the Nashville bombing of that AT&T building?


27 Dec 20 - 10:36 PM (#4085274)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy

Never mind. Tinfoil hat brigade.


29 Dec 20 - 06:23 PM (#4085573)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Sandra in Sydney

Wild swimming and the search for Australia’s best waterholes


29 Dec 20 - 08:02 PM (#4085591)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Donuel

That was fun in the sun


01 Jan 21 - 03:21 PM (#4086048)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy

They overrode the veto...


02 Jan 21 - 03:46 AM (#4086111)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Sandra in Sydney

New Zealand: hiker who spent lockdown in a hobbit hole


02 Jan 21 - 12:09 PM (#4086160)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Stilly River Sage

Huge news not about the virus - but that isn't helped by the virus.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/02/us/politics/russian-hacking-government.html

Here's a piece of that article:

Interviews with current and former employees of SolarWinds suggest it was slow to make security a priority, even as its software was adopted by America’s premier cybersecurity company and federal agencies.

Employees say that under Mr. Thompson, an accountant by training and a former chief financial officer, every part of the business was examined for cost savings and common security practices were eschewed because of their expense. His approach helped almost triple SolarWinds’ annual profit margins to more than $453 million in 2019 from $152 million in 2010.

But some of those measures may have put the company and its customers at greater risk for attack. SolarWinds moved much of its engineering to satellite offices in the Czech Republic, Poland and Belarus, where engineers had broad access to the Orion network management software that Russia’s agents compromised.

The company has said only that the manipulation of its software was the work of human hackers rather than of a computer program. It has not publicly addressed the possibility of an insider being involved in the breach.

None of the SolarWinds customers contacted by The New York Times in recent weeks were aware they were reliant on software that was maintained in Eastern Europe. Many said they did not even know they were using SolarWinds software until recently.

Even with its software installed throughout federal networks, employees said SolarWinds tacked on security only in 2017, under threat of penalty from a new European privacy law. Only then, employees say, did SolarWinds hire its first chief information officer and install a vice president of “security architecture.”

Ian Thornton-Trump, a former cybersecurity adviser at SolarWinds, said he warned management that year that unless it took a more proactive approach to its internal security, a cybersecurity episode would be “catastrophic.” After his basic recommendations were ignored, Mr. Thornton-Trump left the company.

SolarWinds declined to address questions about the adequacy of its security. In a statement, it said it was a “victim of a highly-sophisticated, complex and targeted cyberattack” and was collaborating closely with law enforcement, intelligence agencies and security experts to investigate.

But security experts note that it took days after the Russian attack was discovered before SolarWinds’ websites stopped offering clients compromised code.


It's difficult to believe that there is a reputable individual in the world with the last name "Trump." In this case, Ian Thornton-Trump. It looks like he's a Canadian.


03 Jan 21 - 01:23 PM (#4086289)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy

I would change my name.


04 Jan 21 - 08:17 PM (#4086526)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Sandra in Sydney

very important article, answering a lot of vital questions ...
Why can’t the stormtroopers in Star Wars shoot straight?


05 Jan 21 - 12:23 PM (#4086607)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Donuel

I can't see out those damn trooper helmets either


06 Jan 21 - 03:05 PM (#4086767)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Donuel

Signs like Jesus saves and 'Don't read on me' are among trump signs outside the capitol building
Inside they are carrying flags

Its been 2 hours before any police other than the capitol police are responding. hmmm

I don't see any melee or fights


06 Jan 21 - 04:44 PM (#4086782)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy

They have been thrown out says cnn...

I like yoyr typo!


06 Jan 21 - 04:47 PM (#4086784)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy

I can talk, eh.

WashPo reports someone was shot.


06 Jan 21 - 04:52 PM (#4086786)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Donuel

No typo
Don'tread on me


06 Jan 21 - 05:55 PM (#4086797)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Donuel

Some re too young to know how and when the brown shirts stormed th streets link


11 Jan 21 - 11:04 AM (#4087504)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy

Ok this is different: Japanese scientists report cases where babies being born vaginally to women with cervical cancer caught their mom's cancer during said vaginal delivery. It showed up as lung cancer in the newborns.

I read that in Le monde this morning.


12 Jan 21 - 10:10 AM (#4087616)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Donuel

damn virus/altered cells. Maybe the new RNA vaccine method will provide a good direction for cancer vaccines.

I don't think these guys
will help


12 Jan 21 - 10:13 AM (#4087619)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy

Wrong thread don.


13 Jan 21 - 07:59 AM (#4087731)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Donuel

No, I was respondimg to YOUR post regarding cancer.
interesting graphic


13 Jan 21 - 09:34 AM (#4087746)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy

Ah. Never mind!


14 Jan 21 - 10:19 AM (#4087906)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy

Cute inclusion of random beauty, there!


14 Jan 21 - 10:36 AM (#4087913)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Donuel

2017 photo from space of solar storm hitting earth
https://apod.nasa.gov/apod/image/2101/aurora_iss052e007857.jpg


02 Feb 21 - 10:42 PM (#4091194)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: keberoxu

True, I could post this in the virus thread,
since Plácido Domingo was stricken with COVID-19 last year.
However:
Domingo just observed Birthday number 80 (birthyear 1941).

His career is one with many lives,
even if he himself has but one.

His career as a tenor has been over for quite some time.
His career in the United States, it is fair to say,
ended with the #MeToo revelations and lawsuits.
Some of us will never see him the same way again.

Mixed feelings and emotions.


22 Feb 21 - 11:14 PM (#4094389)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy

Virginia joins the civilized world and abolishes the death penalty.


25 Feb 21 - 02:57 AM (#4094749)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Sandra in Sydney

very good news, Mrrzy

on a lighter note - Mammoth woolly: Baarack the overgrown sheep shorn of his 35kg fleece Escaped merino ram found on the lam in regional Australia is said to be recovering well.
A rogue overgrown sheep found roaming through regional Australia has been shorn of his 35kg fleece – a weight even greater than that of the famous New Zealand sheep Shrek, who was captured in 2005 after six years on the loose.
The merino ram, dubbed Baarack by rescuers, was discovered wandering alone with an extraordinarily overgrown wool coat, and was promptly shorn to save his life. (read on!)


26 Feb 21 - 12:40 PM (#4094999)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: keberoxu

Well, Ted Cruz is not new news, so
probably mention of him should be on a different thread,
but I couldn't work out which one.
But honestly,
how foolish can some elected officials be?


23 Mar 21 - 03:14 PM (#4098930)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Donuel

possibly new fundamental forces from a tri color boson (among others) are lurking out there. Who knows what is next - understanding gravity?
https://theconversation.com/evidence-of-brand-new-physics-at-cern-why-were-cautiously-optimistic-about-our-new-findings-157464


23 Mar 21 - 07:16 PM (#4098978)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy

It is apparently normal for people with 2 X chromosomes to be tetrachromats and see more colors than [what we were taught were typical] trichromatic people.


24 Mar 21 - 06:56 AM (#4099021)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Steve Shaw

It would be nice to have some kind of a link for that. Incidentally, I honestly don't see the harm in referring to male/female/men/women/boy/girl. I recognise the sensitivity around these issues but you should acknowledge that most people would far more quickly know what you were talking about if you used the conventional terms, flawed in your view though they may be. "People with 2 X chromosomes" doesn't cut it. And, let's face it, that isn't the only obscurantist reference in your post.


24 Mar 21 - 09:52 AM (#4099045)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy

But that is what it IS. It includes XXY people who are male, and typical XX women, and trans men who are XX. So no.


24 Mar 21 - 12:26 PM (#4099061)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Steve Shaw

You need to recognise that you are simply fiddling around the edges. The vast majority of people who identify as female are XX and the vast majority of people who identify as male are XY. We know there are exceptions. We get it. But your post seems to be more about colour vision than about point-making about gender. And even then you are unimpressively using words that are hardly in common usage, and you give no corroboration. So back at you with your "So no."


24 Mar 21 - 04:00 PM (#4099105)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy

Right. It *is* about color vision, particularly color vision stuff that is coded for on X chromosomes. I was talking about exactly what I was talking about. Color vision and X chromosomes. Nothing else. Color. Vision. And. X. Chromosomes.

*You* brought in the gender stuff and then [complained] at me for not talking about gender the way you wanted me to *but I wasn't the one talking about gender at all* so once again - get off my back. Even better, admit you were wrong, and apologize.


24 Mar 21 - 04:50 PM (#4099111)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Steve Shaw

You weren't talking about gender at all but you wittered on about "2 X." Sure you weren't. I'm not on your back. I am simply asking you to say, without contortion, what you actually mean. If you talk in riddles you can expect either derision from those who can't be bothered to process your deliberate obscurantism or you can expect be grilled. And I'm asking you for corroboration, still not provided, for the potentially interesting point you made (made with full contortion and weird words) about gender and colour vision. I did look and I couldn't find it. Over to you, or not. I'm moving on.


24 Mar 21 - 06:56 PM (#4099125)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy

Here you are:

It is apparently normal for people with 2 X chromosomes to be tetrachromats and see more colors than [what we were taught were typical] trichromatic people.


24 Mar 21 - 07:25 PM (#4099129)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Steve Shaw

It could be your cholesterol playing you up.


24 Mar 21 - 07:58 PM (#4099133)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Donuel

To complicate someones deliberate complication further, only women are 12% likely to have the fourth extra color cones that enhance color vision but without training or tests may never know it. The mutation results either in better color or color blindness. If a gal had a dad who was color blind, her chance of having 4 cones is better.

btw All howler monkeys male or female have 4 cones. I wonder if lions have this difference.


24 Mar 21 - 08:37 PM (#4099141)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Steve Shaw

Well you said dad, gal, women and her. Every little helps. Now perhaps we could have a link...


24 Mar 21 - 08:51 PM (#4099145)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: keberoxu

Well, maybe next best thing is a link to a different article?

Tetrachromacy: A World of Colour

which says, amongst other things,

"This means tetrachromacy is only possible for most women, who have two X chromosomes, and men with Klinefelter syndrome, who have two X chromosomes and one Y chromosome. Therefore, most men, who only have one X chromosome and one Y chromosome, cannot be tetrachromats."


And if that sounds simple to you,
well, it's Greek to me ...


24 Mar 21 - 10:21 PM (#4099162)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Steve Shaw

Well thanks for that. So this is nothing to do with whether you have two X chromosomes. But everything to do with whether you have a gene mutation on both of your X chromosomes, if indeed you happen to have two of 'em. So not so "normal" after all. You were peddling bullshit, Mrrzy, innit...


24 Mar 21 - 10:35 PM (#4099166)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: beardedbruce

You ignore the presented statement that XX chromosomes are required for this, and that trans males, having XX, would possibly have this. XX, of any sex, and XXY. Or are you stating the trans-males are really women? Isn't that what JK Rowling is accused of?

and it appears to have everything to do with having two X chromosomes, now doesn't it?


For shame


25 Mar 21 - 04:39 AM (#4099178)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Doug Chadwick

I object to chromosomes being stereotyped as X or Y. What about chromosomes that self-identify as Z ?

DC


25 Mar 21 - 05:15 AM (#4099180)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Steve Shaw

They are characterised as X and Y by virtue of their shapes, Doug, when viewed under the microscope.

I have a very simple point to make here, Bruce, which is that this:

"It is apparently normal for people with 2 X chromosomes to be tetrachromat"

...is fake news. The story behind this matter is complex and unresolved. For a start, there's nothing all-or-nothing about it. About half the planet's human population possess two X chromosomes. Females, in other words. At best, a pretty small minority of them are "tetrachromats." That's readily checkable. I'm perfectly happy to concede that you have to have two Xs before you can be one. But it
is untrue to say that it's. Or so to be one


25 Mar 21 - 05:40 AM (#4099181)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Doug Chadwick


They are characterised as X and Y by virtue of their shapes, Doug, when viewed under the microscope.



Erm ..... yes, Steve!

Don't try to confuse the issue with science ;-)


DC


25 Mar 21 - 06:23 AM (#4099191)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Steve Shaw

That last post of mine is not what I thought I'd posted. Please ignore it and read this one (if you must) instead:

They are characterised as X and Y by virtue of their shapes, Doug, when viewed under the microscope.

I have a very simple point to make here, Bruce, which is that this statement...

"It is apparently normal for people with 2 X chromosomes to be tetrachromat"

...is fake news. The story behind this matter is complex and unresolved. For a start, there's nothing all-or-nothing about it. About half the planet's human population possess two X chromosomes. Overwhelmingly identifying as females, in other words. At best, a pretty small minority of them are "tetrachromats." That's readily checkable. I'm perfectly happy to concede that you have to have two Xs before you can be one. But it is untrue to say that it's "normal." And I'm not going to quibble about gender matters in this thread. If you'd care to delve among my thousands of Mudcat posts you'll discover that I'm actually quite advanced in my thinking about such things and that I lament the fact that we have such a long way to go to reach the understanding and tolerance which would achieve equality for people who don't identify at one of the two extremes of the gender spectrum, to put it clumsily.


25 Mar 21 - 06:27 AM (#4099193)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Steve Shaw

And that's not quite what my final version was either. I replaced the pompous "quite advanced" with the word "liberal."


25 Mar 21 - 10:27 AM (#4099226)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: keberoxu

Disagreeing with Mrrzy is all well and good
-- I do it myself sometimes --
but I don't try to sit on Mrrzy.

And I object to anybody trying to sit on Mrrzy.
They dislike it. Most of us dislike it.
And it makes the sitter look , I have to say,
the opposite of attractive.

So stop it.
Stop trying to sit on Mrrzy, already.


25 Mar 21 - 11:14 AM (#4099231)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Donuel

People with empathy will disregard any such hateful contrayian BS and pity the chronic pain of its author. Countless apologies usually follow the offensive insults in hundreds of cases. Like Trump behavior, it is not likely to change at this point. A belief that being a guardian of truth and precision justifies such behavior is fortunately a rare and narcissistic trait, except in social media.
As always your faithful defender and friend.

PS It all goes to state of mind
which is naturally variable and
influenced by events of our time.


25 Mar 21 - 12:49 PM (#4099242)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Steve Shaw

No-one is sitting on anyone. We have an awful lot of peddled misinformation at times on this website, often in matters concerning science and dietary matters, not to speak of vaccine denial. It isn't good, and it behoves each of us to check facts before posting affirmations about matters scientific. Please don't argue for "say what you like and be invulnerable to being called out."


25 Mar 21 - 01:42 PM (#4099248)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Steve Shaw

"People with empathy will disregard any such hateful contrayian BS and pity the chronic pain of its author. Countless apologies usually follow the offensive insults in hundreds of cases. Like Trump behavior, it is not likely to change at this point. A belief that being a guardian of truth and precision justifies such behavior is fortunately a rare and narcissistic trait, except in social media.
As always your faithful defender and friend."

You sound jealous... :-)


25 Mar 21 - 03:01 PM (#4099254)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Donuel

I would share your outrage over deliberate misinformation. God knows PHD's make mistakes too but the spirit of truth and discovery are still respected. Pithy arguements over persona or historic points of view are a side dish and not the main course. Those kinds of food critics are of no help to those hungry for truth in this millenium of great lies.

We will differ from experience on matters of health, mental imaging and healing. While both atheists we will differ on aspects of religion.
Viva l'difference. It helps one think. It doesn't help when one has unfounded predjudice. Jealousy is a simmering hate I couldn't afford or want.

To keep perspective mudcat BS is a sub mud puddle beneath a forum of ancient to modern lyrics and music that is Smithsonian Collection worthy much like their collection of coprolytes.


25 Mar 21 - 03:10 PM (#4099258)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Steve Shaw

That's a good laugh is that. You are the crown prince of misinformation on this forum.


25 Mar 21 - 05:01 PM (#4099282)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Donuel

King Tut
Steve Martin, Steep Canyon Rangers


Ted Cruz (Big Bad Cruz)
Now when he was a young man,
He never thought he'd see
People stand in line to get the vaccine.
(King Cruz) How'd you get so funky?
(Funky Cruz) Do you think you're funny?
Born in MexAlberta,
Moved to Texas border (King Cruz).
(King Cruz) I should have known
That he'd run for the border
when Texas had an ice storm
and then blamed it on his daughter. (King Cruz)
He can read Dr. Seuss (Funky Cruz)
He's my favorite honky!
Born in Mex Alberta,
Moved to Texas border (King Cruz)
Dancin' in the Senate, (Disco Cruz)
The ladies love his belly, (Flabby Cruz)
Stonin all the immigrants (Rockin' Cruz)
Doesn't give a shit.
He gave his life for trumpism.
Whataguy!
Alberta didn't wantem.

Now, when I die
Don't think I'm bein rude, (King Cruz)
Don't want no fancy funeral
Jus'one like unshaven Cruz. (King Cruz)

He coulda been a hoser, (Ted Cruz)
Instead he is a joker
Born in Mex Alberta, moved to Lone Star border
born in Old Moose Ache, now gotta condo made of cake
Big bad Cruz!


25 Mar 21 - 06:30 PM (#4099293)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Donuel

move over Red Baron there is a new tri wing plane


25 Mar 21 - 08:34 PM (#4099302)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: robomatic

Move over Simple Flying. Caproni
had this beat by a factor of 3 90 years ago!

And did it fly?


25 Mar 21 - 09:24 PM (#4099307)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Donuel

Holy Moly. I didn't know about Caproni Macaroni
I was at LaGuardia when it celebrated its Clipper flying boats & pier right off the airport restaurant and remember flying on the 'luxury' DC3's.

The Mars Perseverence has a piece of the Wright brother's biplane aboard.


26 Mar 21 - 07:20 AM (#4099346)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Donuel

This is what the sun will look like after it burns out


26 Mar 21 - 03:35 PM (#4099428)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy

Thanks, keb!


30 Mar 21 - 07:37 AM (#4099942)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Donuel

An inside look at the response to unaccompanoed child immigrants is that most agencies in the government are being asked to volenteer to go to go and help on the border and elsewhere. Its all hands on deck.


01 Apr 21 - 01:55 PM (#4100287)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Donuel

The number of sexual assault court cases against Trump is increasing.
It could become further complicated should he test positv for syphillus. A particularily nasty spirocette which ann play hide and seek.
Trump will not make it public like Reagan did with his dementia. Two years prior to Reagan's announcment by letter, I had said on local Rochester TV on a panal of psychologists that "Reagan had obvious organic brain disease". No one else had the guts to agree with me.


01 Apr 21 - 02:36 PM (#4100291)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy

Charlotteville will be allowed to remove the confederate statues! Yay!


08 Apr 21 - 09:11 AM (#4101351)
Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Mrrzy

Virginia legalizes recreational weed!