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Lyr Req/Add: Orchestra Song - German Lyrics?

03 Jan 00 - 04:57 PM (#157512)
Subject: Orchestra Song
From: M

I know this is not quite within the realm of the Mudcat, but you all are usually so helpful. Does anybody know the words to "The Orchestra Song"? It's a vocal piece, with at least five parts. The lyrics to each part are about an instrument in the orchestra and what sound it makes. Parts are sung individually, then all sung together, and it sounds like...an orchestra. A friend sang this with her family (in the US) some time in the late 1950s-early 1960s, but she said her father sang it in college (mid 1940s). It made a brief appearance in the movie "You've Got Mail," with Tom Hanks and Meg Ryan, but was not listed in the credits. Any help?


03 Jan 00 - 08:03 PM (#157590)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Orchestra Song
From: DougR

M: I have the soundtrack to "You've Got Mail," and I see no mention of "The Orchestra Song" on the CD. I was a teenager during the 1940s and I have no recollection of the song at all. I'll be interested to see if someone can help you with this one.

DougR


03 Jan 00 - 08:34 PM (#157613)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Orchestra Song
From: Alice

yes, I know the song you are referring to and I'll get back to you on the details in a few minute. -alice


03 Jan 00 - 08:42 PM (#157624)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Orchestra Song
From: Alice

The Young Person's Guide to the Orchestra by Benjamin Britten. 'You've Got Mail' was aired on tv recently and I remember hearing it in the soundtrack, too. -alice


03 Jan 00 - 08:46 PM (#157628)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Orchestra Song
From: Alice

... and then again, maybe not. I've got to check this out a little more. -alice


03 Jan 00 - 09:01 PM (#157640)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Orchestra Song
From: Alice

It IS "The Orchestra Song", found it in an old harmony book. It says it is German traditional (the tune), and it is taken from Humor In Vocal Music by Julius Herford, © 1946 by Hargail Music Press, NYC.

I'll transcribe the lyrics if no one else has them to post first.

alice


03 Jan 00 - 09:04 PM (#157642)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Orchestra Song
From: bigJ

I have an old LP by Oscar Brand and the Tarriers on which they sing 'The Violins Play Along' - a sort of round - would it be that? The first verse goes :-
The violins play along and everyone must learn to sing the song x 2.


03 Jan 00 - 09:16 PM (#157649)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Orchestra Song
From: Alice

lyrics posted here for educational purposes only
I have the notation if you need it.
    Orchestra Song (Quodlibet)
    German folk tune

    The violins ringing like lovely singing
    The violins ringing like lovely song.

    The clarinet, the clarinet makes doodle doodle doodle doodle det,
    the clarinet, the clarinet, makes doodle doodle doodle det.

    The timpani's two tones and always the same tones
    Five, one, one, five, five, five, five five, one.

    (sing the song in this order: 1. "violins"only 2. "clarinets" only 3. "violins and clarinets together 4. "timpani" only 5. all together.

alice


03 Jan 00 - 11:55 PM (#157709)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Orchestra Song
From: Charlie Baum

Another verse I remember is :
The horn, the horn, it sounds so forlorn (bis)
This line is sung on a drone.

A variant drum I've heard goes:
The drum it has two tones, a high one, a low one. High, low, low, high, high, high, high, high, low.

I'm trying to remember the first time I heard this, and it might have been in Colonial Williamsburg as an example of music from the 1700s. The piece is certainly old enough to qualify as traditional music, and the existance of variants as to the sounds certain instruments make further qualifies it as a folk song!

--Charlie Baum


04 Jan 00 - 04:51 PM (#157944)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Orchestra Song
From: M

Thank you thank you thank you!!! Alice, you are a dear. It does sound silly, but my friend, from a family of nine, Dutch and Slavic ancestry, did used to sing this song with her family. Too cornball. (I originally asked her if it was from The Sound of Music.) Thanks so much for the publishing origins. I don't need the notation, at the moment. Thanks again.


04 Jan 00 - 09:23 PM (#158103)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Orchestra Song
From: DougR

Alice: A small bit of trivia realted to Julius Hereford. He was Robert Shaw's choral conducting teacher. The student did very well.

DougR


04 Jan 00 - 09:40 PM (#158117)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Orchestra Song
From: AllisonA(Animaterra)

One of John Langstaff's recordings has a lovely arrangement of this- I think it's "Let's Make Music"- I'll look it up when I'm at work. The translation has a lot more words than those above. I remember:
    The violins, of all the strings,
    They take the lead and have the most to do,
    They sweetly play the melody.
    And sing away the whole piece through!

    The clarinet, the clarinet,
    Of all the woodwinds we most (?) can get,
    A single reed is all we need
    To play our sweet and mellow sound.

    For a fanfare a trumpetty sound is best,
    a trumpetty sound is best,
    a trumpetty sound is best,
    For a fanfare a trumpetty sound is best,
    a trumpetty sound is best is best.

    The kettledrums echo
    The two notes we best know
    Sol do, do sol,
    Sol sol sol sol do

    The horns the horns of curling brass
    Can murmur low or loudly blast
Wow! I remembered more than I thought!
Allison


05 Jan 00 - 06:19 PM (#158587)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Orchestra Song
From: M

Y'all are too much! More to pass on to my friend. It's making me giggle. Thanks again all.


01 Feb 05 - 11:04 PM (#1396477)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Orchestra Song
From: GUEST,ccsmspearl@aol.com

I've been (successfully) teaching my 24 month old grandson to sing "the horn" part of The Orchestra while I do the "clarinet" and am aching to get the sheet music to find the other parts which I've forgotten. If anyone has sheet music for The Orchestra Song, can you let me know at ccsmspearl@aol.com (in case i can't find my way back onto this site which I googled from writing out the words from "the horn, the horn, it sounds so forlorn.")

thanks, Marsha


19 Feb 05 - 01:03 PM (#1415059)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Orchestra Song
From: GUEST,newjean

Sheet music for The Orchestra Song:

http://www.dsokids.com/2001/dso.asp?PageID=416

(courtesy of Dallas Symphony Association)


11 Mar 05 - 05:59 PM (#1432628)
Subject: ADD: Orchestra Song
From: GUEST,Stu Dent

"The clarinets, the clarinets, of all the woodwinds we most notes can get"

http://www.nwlg.org/pages/resources/pmusic/orchestra_4.htm (MIDI)

The Orchestra Song

The violins of all the strings
We take the lead and have the most to do
We gaily play the melody
And sing away the whole piece through

The clarinets, the clarinets,
Of all the woodwind we most notes can get
A single reed is all we need
To make our smooth and mellow sound

The horns, the horns
Of curling brass
Can murmur low
Or loudly blast!

For the fanfare our trumpety sound is best
Our trumpety sound is best, our trumpety sound is best
For the fanfare our trumpety sound is best
Our trumpety sound is best is best

The Kettledrums echo
The two notes we best know
Soh-doh, doh-soh

Soh, soh, soh soh, doh


12 Nov 06 - 01:48 AM (#1883674)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Orchestra Song
From: GUEST

The slide trombone can sing many tones, the slide trombone can sing many tones. that is one my mum remembers from when she did it in primary school.


12 Nov 06 - 08:36 PM (#1884298)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Orchestra Song
From: The Fooles Troupe

I thought you meant

"I am a fine musician, I practise every day"

will have to look for the words,

but each verse includes

"my xxxx, my xxxx
I love to play my xxxx"

can be done with a group - each verse and chourus, then each accumulative orchestra.


13 Dec 06 - 10:17 PM (#1909020)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Orchestra Song
From: GUEST

I remember a total of seven separate lines-- Violin, Clarinet, Trumpet, Horn, and Timpani, as listed here, but also Bassoon and Piccolo.

The bassoon it makes a point of counterpoint
Da da da da da daaa da da da da da da da da da (that helped a lot, didn't it? But those were the words, as a recall. A very pretty melody.)

and

The piccolo goes tootle-oot-oot, toodle-oot doot doo.

Maybe I'll think about how to post the melodies. I don't have easy access to MIDI, so can't do much there.


18 Jan 07 - 08:53 PM (#1941170)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Orchestra Song
From: GUEST,Children's Librarian

Score! I found the sheet music and lyrics to "The Orchestra Song" in a softcover book called "Songs for a New Generation: Fun Songs, Rounds and Harmony". copyright 1974 Oak Publications, a division of Embassy Music Corporation. Too old for the book to have an ISBN number. Did not have time to check its availability on Amazon.


31 Oct 07 - 05:18 AM (#2183280)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Orchestra Song
From: GUEST,Mrs Meyer

You mentioned you had found "The Orchestra Song" in a 1974 book, "Songs for a New Generation..." What I'd like to track down, though, is the book current in the early Fifties that had not only the Orchestra Song (hope I'm referring to the same thing -- Clarinet goes doodle doodle doodle doodle-det) but also another song about the Skena River, and many other part songs for children.
I've just been asked to cover someone's maternity leave for a music class and this book would be perfect -- as I'm sure it's long out of copyright I can copy it and they'll never know how old the songs are that I'm teaching them! Can you help?
(Best place for used books, I find, is www.bookfinder.com, which lists Amazon as well as many "normal" used bookshops.)
Many thanks for whatever leads you can give me.


31 Dec 07 - 09:49 PM (#2225923)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Orchestra Song
From: GUEST,Angela

Someone mentioned this song being from The Sound of Music. It is not in the movie but you may have remembered it from the musical. I performed this song when in the 2nd grade in the high school production of The Sound of Music. The lyrics were as follows:

The violin's singing.
Ah ah ah ah ah ah ah ah (these are sung in various notes)

The horn, the horn,
it sounds so forlorn.

The clarinet, the clarinet,
goes doodle doodle doodle doodle det.

The drum, the drum,
Five, five, five, five, one.

There may be more lyrics, I have the sheet music.. somewhere.
Any questions email me: nydancerchic@yahoo.com


11 Sep 08 - 11:59 AM (#2437450)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Orchestra Song
From: GUEST,jr10

We used to sing this in school in Yorkshire in the 1970s. I could remember the horns, the violin and clarinet but thanks for all the rest. I'm teaching it to my little girl.


14 Sep 08 - 09:03 PM (#2440482)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Orchestra Song
From: Jim Dixon

IMDb.com gives this information in the soundtrack listing for "You've Got Mail":

THE INSTRUMENT SONG
Traditional
Performed by Jean Stapleton, Steve Zahn, Meg Ryan, Greg Kinnear and Heather Burns


18 Sep 08 - 12:32 PM (#2444120)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Orchestra Song
From: GUEST,Bob Forrest

We sang this in a Minnesota grade school or high school chorus program, with slightly different words but the same music:
    The fiddles they sing it, they sob it and swing it, they sway as they play it, they play all they say.
    The clarinet, the clarinet, goes dua-dua-dua-det, the clarinet, the clarinet, goes dua-dua-dua-det.
    And the trumpet must tan-ta-ta-ta-ta, etc.
    The horns, the horns, they shout it out...
    The drum has no trouble, just double, dub-double, five-one, one-five, bum bum bum bum bum.
    The bassoon it makes a point of counterpoint, ???? ???? ???.

      Also something about a cello so mellow. I don't remember a part for flute, piccolo, or trombone.


27 Oct 08 - 11:53 AM (#2477283)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Orchestra Song
From: GUEST

In my elementary school in New Jersey - in the late 40's/early 50's - we sang it pretty much as they did in Minnesota.
The music teacher divided the auditorium into 4 quadrants.
Left Front sang:
the fiddles they sing it, they sob it and swing it, they sway as they play it, they sing all they say.
Left Rear sang:
The clarinet, the clarinet, goes dua-dua-dua-det, the clarinet, the clarinet, goes dua-dua-dua-det.
Right Front sang:
The horns, the horns, they shout it out, the horns, the horns, they shout it out (the most boring part of all!)
Right Rear sang:
The drum has no trouble, just double, dub-double, five-one, one-five, bum bum bum bum bum.

It was a township school with lots of farm kids who couldn't have cared less -- but I secretly kind of enjoyed it!


17 Dec 08 - 11:31 PM (#2518576)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Orchestra Song
From: GUEST,guest - merida7

Does anyone have the German lyrics to the Orchestra Song? A friend "keeps looking for them" (having learned the song in German, in a group of group of young people in the U.S., about 1940s).


18 Dec 08 - 11:52 PM (#2519500)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Orchestra Song - German Lyrics?
From: GUEST,astewart41

I found a link to a version it sounds like most of you have been searching for: (English lyrics, sorry above person)

http://www.songsforteaching.com/orchestrainstrumentsong.htm

Merry Christmas!


19 Dec 08 - 03:55 PM (#2520078)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Orchestra Song - German Lyrics?
From: Joe Offer

Refresh. Somebody must know the German lyrics....


19 Dec 08 - 10:12 PM (#2520327)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Orchestra Song - German Lyrics?
From: katlaughing

I have a vague memory of this being sung in a round. I have the melody complete after all these years, I am amazed!:-)


28 Jan 09 - 02:18 AM (#2550747)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Orchestra Song - German Lyrics?
From: GUEST,Lin

German Lyrics

Die Geige, sie singet, sie jubelt und klinget,
Die Geige, sie singet, sie jubelt und kling

Die Klarinett, die Klarinett, macht
duo-duo-duo-basinett
Die Klarinett, die Klarinett, macht duo-duo-duo-dett

I don't remember the horn, the trumpet, or the drum verses at the moment but will try to look them up and post them later.


28 Jan 09 - 02:24 AM (#2550750)
Subject: ADD: Zur Feier/Die Geige (Willy Geisler)
From: GUEST,Lin

I looked it up and what I mis-heard and posted was a jumble of the actual words, which are:


ZUR FEIER / DIE GEIGE
(Willy Geisler)

1. Die Geige, sie singt, sie jubelt und klingt (violin)

2. Die Klarinett, die Klarinett, macht duaduadua gar so nett, (clarinet)

3. Die Pauke hat's leicht denn sie spielt nur zwei Töne: Fünf eins / eins fünf / bum bum bum bum bum. (drums)

4. Die Trompete, die schmettert: tätätätäteterätätätätäteterä, Die Trompete, die schmettert: tätätätäteterätätätätä. (trumpet)

5. Das Horn, das Horn, das ruht sich aus. Das Horn, das Horn, das ruht sich aus. (horn, of course)

6. Die Trommel... (don't know this verse)


28 Jan 09 - 02:40 AM (#2550752)
Subject: RE: req/ADD: Orchestra Song - German Lyrics?
From: Joe Offer

Thanks a lot, Lin. I'm truly impressed. I've been looking for that song for a long, long time.
-Joe-


16 Sep 09 - 02:42 AM (#2724596)
Subject: RE: req/ADD: Orchestra Song - German Lyrics?
From: GUEST,francis and millie

I(francis Buekea)along with the other chior members sang the version of this same instrumental lyric to the first graduating 8th graders of our catholic mission elementary school on the island of Tol in Truk, also known as the Chuuk State in the Federated States of Micronesia in l967 when I was in the 7th grade. I thought that the whole audience would be so amazed to hear our mellifluous notes in English but instead everyone was so very much serenaded only by our harmonious melodies since almost none of them knew how to speak English.


25 Nov 09 - 09:34 AM (#2773353)
Subject: RE: req/ADD: Orchestra Song - German Lyrics?
From: GUEST,ilovekitkat

Does anyone knows about this?

" The violins singing, Are ringing and singing, The violins playing Are like a sweet song.

The clarinet, the clarinet Plays dua, dua, dua, dua det.

The horn, the horn sounds loud and clear.

But the trumpet goes trum-pe-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta, trum-pe-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta.

A sturdy sound, the big trombone, Sounds dark and deep the baritone.

Dub dubble, dub dubble, the drums have no trouble, Five one, one five, Five drum, drum, drum, drum. "

Please send tune, thanks! :)


13 Jan 10 - 10:54 AM (#2810950)
Subject: RE: req/ADD: Orchestra Song - German Lyrics?
From: GUEST

I have watched this video several times and can identify the violin, clarinet, horn, trumpet and I think bassoon..but not sure. Is there a lyric that lists all of the part? As I think this piece has been cut to fit each choir and there are several parts not done to keep it shorter.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zBAXB18VQCo&feature=related


12 Mar 10 - 07:52 PM (#2863046)
Subject: RE: req/ADD: Orchestra Song - German Lyrics?
From: GUEST,Jazzie

Does anyone know this song in Russian?
that would really help!
someone please tell me, thanks =)


10 Apr 10 - 06:05 AM (#2883512)
Subject: RE: req/ADD: Orchestra Song - German Lyrics?
From: GUEST,sionlew

In our German class, the horn bit went something like:

"Das Horn Das Horn, das ruht sich aus
Es singt nur einen ton herraus..."


17 May 10 - 10:28 PM (#2908932)
Subject: RE: req/ADD: Orchestra Song - German Lyrics?
From: GUEST

I'm also looking for all the German words. In the late 1940s-early 50s I learned this partially auf Deutsch & part in English. Think I've found a source of sheet music. The bassoon:

"Das Bassoon kommt mit dem kuntrapunkt-lah laaahhh, la la la la la
la la--la la la"
(repeat)

Our version of the horn:

"Das Horn, Das Horn er klingt am morgen
(repeat)"

Shy can't we find more of the German or English verses??? We always hac such fun singing this...Tw


18 May 10 - 01:28 PM (#2909306)
Subject: RE: req/ADD: Orchestra Song - German Lyrics?
From: Tannywheeler

OK, that last one there is me. & the last line should have started "Why...". I'm properly signed in now, everlasting thanks to Joe Offer. Still hoping to find lyrics & music to this one. Tw


06 Jun 10 - 08:52 AM (#2921696)
Subject: RE: req/ADD: Orchestra Song - German Lyrics?
From: Tannywheeler

Someone suggested I try Joe Hickerson & ZAP!!! I now have several versions of this fabulous piece, printed on paper, 1 in German, music & lyrics. Absolutely fabulous. God bless him. He claimed it was found by a friend of his named Ruth. God bless her. After all those yrs of wondering...it's heaven. Tw


11 Sep 10 - 06:34 AM (#2984430)
Subject: RE: req/ADD: Orchestra Song - German Lyrics?
From: GUEST,German

The version quoted by Lin is identical to the one represented on "ingeb.org". This is usually the first address for anyone searching for German folk songs. However, the text given for the horn is not the one usually sung and seeming most logical, as (approximately) quoted by sionlew: "Das Horn, das Horn, das ruht sich aus, es bringt nur einen Ton heraus." The translation is "The horn, the horn relaxes, it produces but one note." (Hornist rightly feel insulted, but with the short-lived advent of the vuvuzela this verse has been quoted frequently.)

As for the authorship, ingeb.org gives "Melodie & Text: Willy Geisler, 1886". In other sources, such as http://www.deutscheslied.com/, the spelling is "Willy Geißler" etc. (deutscheslied.com, based in Canada, is an incredible archive of German songbooks; there you can order by email those songs that are forbidden in Germany, if you need them.) "Zur Feier" ("For a celebration") seems to be the Geisler's original title. He might not have foreseen the worlwide carreer of his little quodlibet, designed for a single occasion.


11 Sep 10 - 06:34 AM (#2984432)
Subject: RE: req/ADD: Orchestra Song - German Lyrics?
From: GUEST,German

continued:

Here I found a perfect and beautiful representation: http://www.kinderlieder-texte.de/die-geige-sie-singet/.

Any verses about drums and bassoons have probably been added later and are not known generally. The Folk Process, however, joins the song with many other songs and rounds of (roughly) equal chord scheme, such as "Es tönen die Lieder" and "C-A-F-F-E-E", to form a giant quodlibet.

It should always be pointed out to learners that timpani (aka kettledrums, Ger. Pauken) and drums (Trommeln) are entirely different instruments!


01 Nov 10 - 05:39 PM (#3021101)
Subject: RE: req/ADD: Orchestra Song - German Lyrics?
From: GUEST,former New Jersey student

I also remember this and was the opening singer in a 5 or 6 person version of the song when I went to West Amwell Elementary school in New Jersey in the early 1970's. I opened with the fiddle - it was my first solo ever :) Much fun to remember I have been trying to find the lyrics for all the instruments. Looks like there are several versions.


18 Jan 11 - 04:31 PM (#3077421)
Subject: Orchestra Song - Spanish Lyrics?
From: GUEST,Joyce Lender

Does anyone know where to get the Spanish version of "The Orchestra Song". I would greatly appreciate it.


18 Jan 11 - 07:14 PM (#3077543)
Subject: RE: req/ADD: Orchestra Song - German Lyrics?
From: GUEST,Grishka

Here I found a sheet music PDF in Spanish. The melodies are slightly different from the ones mentioned above. The bassoon duly comes with its counterpoint, but the timpani have suddenly become a trombone!?! Here a slightly different version of the lyrics; I particularly like the trumpet part:
LA ORQUESTA

Bellas melodías,
entonan a los violines
primero y segundo
preparense para tocar.

El clarinete dulcemente
toca dua dua el clarinete,
el clarinete dulcemente
toca dua dua da.

(los dos juntos)

El fagot señala el contrapunto la
lala lala lara lara, la la la la la la
el fagot señala el contrapunto la
lala lala lara lara.

(los tres juntos)

La trompeta domina
toda la orquestara tara
trompetara tara
trompeta domina
toda la orquestara tara ta ta.

(los cuatro juntos)

En cambio el trombón
no ofrece problemas;
Sol Do, Do Sol, Sol Sol Sol Do.

(todos juntos x 2)


25 Jan 11 - 03:51 PM (#3082290)
Subject: RE: req/ADD: Orchestra Song - German Lyrics?
From: GUEST

Thankz i was also looking for the sheet music for that song if you know a good website tell me please


05 Feb 11 - 09:47 PM (#3089539)
Subject: RE: req/ADD: Orchestra Song - German Lyrics?
From: GUEST

Thank you everyone for all your hard work. I can't wait to sing this song with my students as we learn about the instruments of the orchestra.


01 Mar 11 - 08:43 AM (#3104908)
Subject: RE: req/ADD: Orchestra Song - German Lyrics?
From: GUEST

The Clarinet, the clarinet goes dua dua dua dua dette
the clarinet, the clarinet goes dua dua dua dette

The trumpet goes trump a tee tee tee tee,
trump a tee tee tee tee, trump a tee tee tee
The trumpet goes trump a tee tee tee tee
trump a tee tee tee tee, trump

The Horn, The Horn, comes out, to play
The Horn, The Horn, comes out, to play

The drum has no trouble, just double, dub double
Five one, one five, boom boom boom boom boom.

Thats all I know

Liz


09 Jan 12 - 03:02 AM (#3287387)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req/Add: Orchestra Song - German Lyrics?
From: GUEST,GUEST

Wow, didn't know there were so many different versions of the lyrics. I have a score I could email, if anybody wants it. Email me at cobalj@sbcglobal.net

Lisa


14 Apr 12 - 08:38 PM (#3338433)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req/Add: Orchestra Song - German Lyrics?
From: GUEST,guest hairpinlace

the clearest Engllish version I found on youtube is this one
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=UhAtIy4rRf8


06 Sep 13 - 10:45 AM (#3556574)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req/Add: Orchestra Song - German Lyrics?
From: GUEST,Ann Burgess

I learned this with the junior section of the Orpington Junior Singers in the UK in the 1960s. The words were different:
The fiddles, they sing it and sob it and swing it,
They sway as they play it, they sing all they say.

The clarinet, the clarinet, goes doowa doowa doowa doowadet,
The clarinet, the clarinet, goes doowa doowa doowadet.

The horns, the horns, they shout it out,
The horns, the horns, they shout it out.

The drum has no trouble, just double, dub-double.
Five-one, one five; boom boom boom boom boom!

And the trumpet must trum-t-t-t-t-t-t, trum-t-t-t-t-t-t, trum-t-t-t-t,
And the trumpet must trum-t-t-t-t-t-t, trum-t-t-t-t-t-t, ta!

The bassoon it makes a point of counterpoint,
Da da da da da da, da da da da
The bassoon it makes a point of counterpoint,
Da da da da da da da.

A couple of decades later I was head of music in Homefield Boys' School, Sutton (south of London in the UK). I used The Orchestra Song but my choir seemed to be coping very well so I added some extra verses I made up myself. I wasn't aware they'd travelled anywhere; but I was very gratified to see someone mention one of mine:

The 'cello is mellow, it sings a flowing melody;
The 'cello is mellow, it sends me to sleep!

At this point my version of it slowed right down with mock snoring from the boys and stopped briefly, before they 'awoke' for a final rousing reiteration of the tutti.

The following year I squeezed yet another verse in:

The harp is so enchanting, it…
and for the life of me I can't remember what it did after that although I can remember the melody very well!

So if any of my ex pupils from Homefield remembers that one, perhaps they'd post those up here as well! I could do the score for the extra verses if anyone is interested.

And I've never heard of the piccolo verse so please post the notes somewhere!


27 Oct 14 - 12:11 PM (#3672435)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req/Add: Orchestra Song - German Lyrics?
From: GUEST,Guest (

Hello all! I'm about to revise and typeset my English version of this delightful group song for my private files, much closer in meaning to the original German, and can offer a few corrections/additions:

1. Herr Geissler published the original version in 1886.
2. To fit the rhythm, the first time the Geige verse is sung, the two-syllable versions "singet" and "klinget" are used; the second time, the ending is "klingt", without the "e".
3. In most German versions I've seen (on the Internet), the Klarinett verse ends not in "dua det" but "gar so nett".
4. The Horn verse should be "...es ruht sich aus. Es bringt nor einen Ton herraus," not "das," which means "the". (See note at end of item 5.)
5. It should be "Die Trompete, sie schmettert," not "die schmettert", which makes no grammatical sense. (The meaning is "it", not "the" before a verb!)

Finally, to Ann Burgess:

Yes! PLEASE transcribe the scores for:

Cello;
Harp;
Piccolo (if someone else here has by then responded to your request to post the notes!);
Drums, if you can find them (as was indicated, different from Tympani verse); and
Trombone.

For your harp verse most of which you've forgotten, would this fit your rhythm, syllable-wise?:

The harp is so enchanting, and serenity it's granting,
Sounding just like rain and waterfall.
The harp is so enchanting, and serenity it's granting;
Like tinkling rain, it soothes us all.

Yours in shared love of music,

Choirmistress


01 Dec 14 - 01:45 PM (#3681506)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req/Add: Orchestra Song - German Lyrics?
From: GUEST,Choirmistress

More corrections and additions:

"Geisler" is with just one "s" on the oldest version I have yet seen (courtesy of a German website?), and I'm afraid I was also way off in the year of publication. 1886 was the year of his birth (died 1952), so from the list of songs under "Die Geige" OR "Zur Feier", the closest possible publication date is circa 1927.

"Die Trommel" is supposed to imitate a drum. That's why those two words are the only ones sung. The German fellow who provided a few different versions of the sheet music suggested experimenting with sounds and articulation. My version would just use the syllable "pa" (no, not short as in "pal", but with the short "u" sound).

And the bassoon verse is supposed to read "makes a point IN counterpoint".

And now all I have left to say is to repeat my request for the lyrics and sheet music to the cello, harp, piccolo, and trombone verses. Once I have those, I can complete my typesetting of the lyrics to all TEN verses.

Thanks in advance for the above information.

Regards, Choirmistress.


01 Dec 14 - 05:09 PM (#3681562)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req/Add: Orchestra Song - German Lyrics?
From: GUEST,Choirmistress

A P.S. to my above post:

The German website with printable sheet music available is deutscheslied.

Hope this helps.

Still awaiting the words and notes to the cello, harp, piccolo and trombone verses.

Choirmistress


09 Dec 14 - 02:37 PM (#3683971)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req/Add: Orchestra Song - German Lyrics?
From: GUEST,Choirmistress

Does ANYONE have the sheet music (or can just name the notes by letter) for:

cello
flute
harp
piccolo; and
trombone?

I am waiting for these so I can typeset my closer-to-the-original-German version.

Then I can post it along with a French version and a Latinized Hebrew version.

Regards,
Choirmistress


10 Dec 14 - 12:20 PM (#3684334)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req/Add: Orchestra Song - German Lyrics?
From: GUEST,Bob Schwarer

Is this any help?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yth_XQ0lBEc


11 Dec 14 - 07:48 AM (#3684630)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req/Add: Orchestra Song - German Lyrics?
From: GUEST,Grishka

Choirmistress, there seem to be only five original voices. All the rest has been added by more or less talented epigons in various languages. You are entitled to do your own, which will be exactly as original as anybody else's.


11 Dec 14 - 12:01 PM (#3684725)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req/Add: Orchestra Song - German Lyrics?
From: GUEST,Choirmistress

Hi, Grishka, and thanks for your response.

The fellow who answered my e-mail to Deutscheslied sent me back a few versions, all of which included:

V. 1: Geige (violin);
V. 2: Klarinett (clarinet, well d'uh);
V. 3: Pauke (tympani/kettledrum);
V. 4: Trompete (trumpet);
V. 5: Horn; and
V. 6: Trommel (smaller drum).

I suspect that the reason the Trommel is seldom mentioned is that it is not sung but done by "sound effect" such as finger snaps, claps, slaps, striking wooden blocks, or whatever.

It is the bassoon that is generally acknowledged to be the first addition (anyone have a year for those, excluding me, who are interested?) to the circa-1927 original six verses.

Thank you for your input.

Regards, Choirmistress


11 Dec 14 - 03:30 PM (#3684763)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req/Add: Orchestra Song - German Lyrics?
From: Leadbelly

Choirmistress, in my own feelings I think Bob Schwarer was a great help. Should have been mentioned by name.

But naturally, it's up to you.


12 Dec 14 - 11:48 AM (#3685078)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req/Add: Orchestra Song - German Lyrics?
From: GUEST,Choirmistress

To Bob Schwarer:

I appreciate your effort, and am grateful for your time and trouble. I tried sending this thank-you post yesterday but apparently it didn't go through.

Sorry, but the link you provided was to an English version with the already familiar existing five or six verses mentioned in the original German.

Again, the verses I am still seeking the lyrics and notes to are:

Cello;
Harp;
Piccolo; and
Trombone.

Thanks again for your effort.

Regards, Choirmistress


12 Dec 14 - 11:53 AM (#3685080)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req/Add: Orchestra Song - German Lyrics?
From: GUEST,Choirmistress

To Leadbelly:

Now updated.

Regards, Choirmistress.


12 Dec 14 - 12:41 PM (#3685106)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req/Add: Orchestra Song - German Lyrics?
From: GUEST

Great, Choirmistress. That's what we like!

Regards, Manfred


13 Dec 14 - 07:21 AM (#3685330)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req/Add: Orchestra Song - German Lyrics?
From: GUEST,Grishka

Choirmistress, the poster Ann Burgess (06 Sep 13 - 10:45 AM) tells us that she devised the cello and harp parts herself, presumably only in English, and makes no claim of exceptional ingeniousness. If she does not turn up again, you can proclaim a Mudcat SONG CHALLENGE, for entries in ABC Notation. You should insist on C major.

It would make sense to design the whole piece for mixed choir. For example, the original timpani part would be transposed down an octave, to be sung by men. Additions for cello etc. should also be for male voices.

Why do you think that the Trommel part is by Geisler himself?


13 Dec 14 - 01:13 PM (#3685391)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req/Add: Orchestra Song - German Lyrics?
From: GUEST,Grishka

Here is my tentative CHALLENGE submission with all the requested instruments plus a double bass. To view/typeset the sheet music and listen to the music, there are basically two ways:

a) use a programme called abc2xml to transform the ABC to MusicXML, which then can be read into Sibelius, Finale, MuseScore and many other notation programmes.

b) enter the ABC text into ABC software such as EasyABC or ABCExplorer.

Everybody is welcome to improve upon my proposals, or make their own. Add other instruments such as "The b-b-b-b-b-b-bodh-rán". I suggest that submitters only post the part starting "V:", to work with the same "header" (i.e. the lines from "X:" to "K:C").

X:1
T:Orchestra Song Additions
L:1/8
I:linebreak $
K:C
%
V:picc name="Piccolo" clef=treble^8
%%MIDI program 72
g2 | g>e e "(whisle)" g e'c'| b/c'/d'/b/ g2 g2 | g>f f "(whisle)" g f'd'| c'/d'/e'/c'/ g2 g2 |
w:The pic-co-lo ******** can prickle, oh! ********* and
g>e e "(whisle)" g c'e'| !trill!g'4 g2 | g>f f "(whisle)" g f'd'| c'4 |]
w:tickle, oh! ***** like sick, oh lo!
%
V:harp name="Harp" clef=treble
%%MIDI program 46
G,2|(3G,CE (3GEG c2 | (3G,B,D (3GDG B2 |
w:Not eas-y to tune is the harp, oft-en it's flat or it's sharp,
(3G,B,D (3FGB d2| (3CEG (3cGc e2 |
w:but if the tu-ning is right, we will have pur-est de-light.
(3G,CE (3GEG c2 | (3G,B,D (3GDG B2 |
w:Pluck-ing like plin-ke-ti-plong, oft-en it's right or it's wrong;
(3G,B,D (3FGB dG,| (G,2 !slide!c2) |]
w:if you're a-fraid that you'll miss, just gllll-iss!
%
V:trb name="Trombone" clef=bass
%%MIDI program 57
G,G, |G,4 E,C,| D,6 | G,4 D,2 | E,4 G,G,|
w:The trom-bone does its own, drawn and blown. And its
G,4 E,C,| D,2 D,4 | G,4 D,2 | E,4|]
w:tube is cy-lin-dric, not a cone!
%
V:cello name="Cello" clef=treble_8
%%MIDI program 42
G,2 |G, E,3 G,C| B, F,3 G, A, | B,C DC B,A, | G, E,2 G, E,F,|
w:The cel-lo can sound mel-low, if the play-er knows to treat it well, oh, but if some
G, E3 EF | G F3 DC| B,C D2 F2 | E C3|]
w:fel-low makes it bel-low, it turns lem-on juice to jell-o.
%
V:db name="Double bass" clef=bass
%%MIDI program 43
G,2|C,3 C, B,,A,,| G,,4 G,,2| G,,3 A,, G,,F,,| E,,4
w:Deep down, the dou-ble bass will pace, but hard-ly race,
G,,2|E,,2 E,,2 E,,2| G,,4 G,,2| G,,2 B,,2 G,,2 | C,4|]
w:the foot-ing to brace with firm-ness and grace.


13 Dec 14 - 07:30 PM (#3685462)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req/Add: Orchestra Song - German Lyrics?
From: GUEST,Bob Schwarer

Here's a cute rendition I ran across.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hxx5ghVmdMo


08 Apr 15 - 01:19 PM (#3700572)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req/Add: Orchestra Song - German Lyrics?
From: GUEST

'tHE DRUMS HAVE NO TROUBLE, JUST DOUBLE DUM dOUBLE, 5, 1; 1, 5 BOOM, BOOM, BOOM BOOM, BOOM"

"tHE CLAR-I-NET, THE cLARINET, GOES DOO-A-dOO-A-DOO-A-DOO-A DET..."

"tHE HORN, THE HORN; IT SOUNDS SO FORLORN..."

"tHE BASSOON, IT MAKES A POINT OF COUNTERPOINT, TRA- LA-LA-LA-LA-LA,
tRA-LA-LA-LA-LA-LA..."


mY MOTHER TAUGHT ME THESE VERSES; SHE HAD SUNG THEM AT WITTENBURG


08 Oct 18 - 11:11 AM (#3955423)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req/Add: Orchestra Song - German Lyrics?
From: GUEST

These are some of the words to a song which have been buzzing around in my head since my childhood. I can even sing it although I'm not sure all the words are correct...

The violin of all the strings we take the lead and have the most to do, we gaily play the melody and sing away the whole piece through.

The clarinet, the clarinet of all the woodwind we most notes can get, a single reed is all we need to make our smooth and mellow sound....

It goes on to name other instruments but I'm afraid I can't remember anymore. Can anyone help please?


08 Oct 18 - 03:18 PM (#3955491)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req/Add: Orchestra Song - German Lyrics?
From: GUEST,keberoxu

The version I best remember has the lyrics
submitted by Alice in her January 2000 post to this thread.

"Guest," who submitted the post before mine,
check out the January 2000 post from "Animaterra" a/k/a AllisonA,
for her lyrics are a close match to yours,
and there are close matches in other earlier posts as well.

I had no idea this thing was German in origin. Good to know!


08 Oct 18 - 04:22 PM (#3955511)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req/Add: Orchestra Song - German Lyrics?
From: John MacKenzie

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0JUKuiWfhig


04 Nov 18 - 09:53 AM (#3960035)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req/Add: Orchestra Song - German Lyrics?
From: GUEST,Carol Novitsky

My great-uncle used to conduct a chorus of all his guests whenever we had family reunions at his beautiful creekside property. We would do a "German Orchestra Song" that was a grownup version of the one John MacKenzie above refers to. No guitar. But it did have a Bassgeigen that said:
   Reifen Morgen! Reifen Morgen! Brrrrrr! Brrrrrr!

It also had changing rhythms: the intro lines w/Musikante and Schwabenland were in a strict 3/4 like a Landler. The instrument voices were in 2/4 and the instrument sounds like Reifen Morgen were in a swung dotted rhythm.

The first instrument I believe was a Geigen that said:
   Sinzi Linzi Sinzi Linzi Sinzi Linzi Strum Strum!


03 Mar 19 - 07:54 PM (#3980124)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req/Add: Orchestra Song - German Lyrics?
From: GUEST,Ladi

I used to sing this in Lagos, Nigeria as a boy. The reason I could only remember ‘the horns’ was because it was the was the part given to me to to sing. A simpler time.


04 Mar 19 - 03:04 PM (#3980193)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req/Add: Orchestra Song - German Lyrics?
From: MudGuard

From one of the older posts way above:

"Das Bassoon kommt mit dem kuntrapunkt-lah laaahhh, la la la la la
la la--la la la"
(repeat)

should be:

"Das Fagott kommt mit dem Kontrapunkt-lah laaahhh, la la la la la
la la--la la la"

The English name "bassoon" is not in use in German, we call that instrument "Fagott".

Nouns are started with a capital letter in German, and the "u" must be an "o"

Greetings from Germany,
MudGuard a/k/a Andreas