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23 Sep 19 - 11:54 AM (#4010037)
Subject: BS: Rugby World Cup 2019
From: Nigel Parsons

Here we go again.
A good start on Friday with (the hosts) Japan beating Russia.

Three of the 'Home Nations' recorded initial wins, but as Scotland played Ireland in their first games, it could never be a clean sweep for the Home Nations.

The other two teams who play in the 'Six Nations' competition (France & Italy) also started with wins (over Argentina & Namibia respectively).

I was up early today to watch the Welsh match. Well, I say 'early', but when you're retired the definition of 'early' changes. Next Welsh match is on Sunday with kick off at 08.45 (UK time) against Australia


With ITV showing all matches they are available on 'free-to-air' in UK. Also 3 minutes (approximately) of highlights of each match can be found on Google


24 Sep 19 - 08:33 AM (#4010232)
Subject: RE: BS: Rugby World Cup 2019
From: Charmion

Himself, with whom I share brass rags, rolls out of the pit at the oddest of hours (we’re in Stratford, Ontario) to keep up with the tournament. On Sunday, I arose to the braying of a Welsh commentator waxing lyrical about George North. A bit weird with pre-church tea.


24 Sep 19 - 05:54 PM (#4010311)
Subject: RE: BS: Rugby World Cup 2019
From: WalkaboutsVerse

My poem from WalkaboutsVerse, "One Rugby?"


25 Sep 19 - 08:33 PM (#4010540)
Subject: RE: BS: Rugby World Cup 2019
From: Tattie Bogle

It's gone awfy quiet here aboot that first match on Saturday morning (UK time)!


26 Sep 19 - 06:54 AM (#4010596)
Subject: RE: BS: Rugby World Cup 2019
From: Nigel Parsons

Here we go again
England vs USA
Not forgetting that USA were world champions for several decades


26 Sep 19 - 08:17 AM (#4010609)
Subject: RE: BS: Rugby World Cup 2019
From: Charmion

Canada has been crushed. Again. By Italy.

Nothing to see here. Move along!


26 Sep 19 - 09:56 AM (#4010626)
Subject: RE: BS: Rugby World Cup 2019
From: Nigel Parsons

England beating USA by 45-0. The klaxon goes for full time, and play continues until the next stoppage.
Instead of just kicking the ball out of play (as they had numerous opportunities to do) England decide to try to increase their win, but fail to score a further try, lose the ball to USA, who then go on to pull the score back to 45-7. GO USA!


26 Sep 19 - 11:10 AM (#4010653)
Subject: RE: BS: Rugby World Cup 2019
From: Raedwulf

Something, Nigel, they would never have done if the prospect of a score against mattered in the slightest. I wouldn't make too much of it. Decent performance from us. Better than I expected, in truth, given the number of changes, and better, albeit against weaker opposition (sorry Yanks, but this Yook expects Tonga to beat you in due course), than in the opening game.

Still a long way to go, though!


28 Sep 19 - 01:29 PM (#4010949)
Subject: RE: BS: Rugby World Cup 2019
From: WalkaboutsVerse

My poem, from WalkaboutsVerse, "One Rugby?"


29 Sep 19 - 07:45 AM (#4011030)
Subject: RE: BS: Rugby World Cup 2019
From: beachcomber

Japan 19 -- Ireland 12   !!!!!!!!!!!!!! That'll take some ink and breath ?

1. Ireland were over confident, especially after those first two easily managed tries ?
2. Ireland were tired after their effort against the Scots the previous match.
3. Ireland had two less recovery days than Japan.
4. Japan forgot that Ireland were supposed to win
5. Japan didn't play fair, they "imported" big lads.
6. We'll beat them next time ?

OK, now I don't want to hear any more about it !


29 Sep 19 - 10:24 AM (#4011045)
Subject: RE: BS: Rugby World Cup 2019
From: WalkaboutsVerse

...Kaizen, maybe? Either way, it will surely generate interest/fill stadiums.


29 Sep 19 - 12:25 PM (#4011078)
Subject: RE: BS: Rugby World Cup 2019
From: Nigel Parsons

A great game this morning from Wales & Australia.
I say Wales & Australia deliberately ('&' rather than 'vs.') because both teams played well to make something of a spectacle of open rugby.
For anyone who has yet to watch I won't spoil it with the result, as it comes right "down to the wire"!


29 Sep 19 - 12:42 PM (#4011080)
Subject: RE: BS: Rugby World Cup 2019
From: WalkaboutsVerse

It would be equally difficult right now to convince Japanese and Welsh that Rugby League is a better game but the changes made at and since the split WERE for the better; as in the poem above, I would go further and do away with scrums altogether, which in RL have become a token gesture - akin to the tunnel ball we used to play at school in Sydney.


30 Sep 19 - 10:54 AM (#4011210)
Subject: RE: BS: Rugby World Cup 2019
From: Tattie Bogle

A bit more cheer in the Scottish camp after this morning's match! When did you last see TWO penalty tries being given in one match?


21 Oct 19 - 06:23 AM (#4014646)
Subject: RE: BS: Rugby World Cup 2019
From: Nigel Parsons

Well, we're down to the last four.
Next weekend's matches:
England v New Zealand
Wales v South Africa.

I won't be cheering England on in the first game, but as long as Wales beat South Africa I would prefer a Wales v England final.


21 Oct 19 - 02:44 PM (#4014749)
Subject: RE: BS: Rugby World Cup 2019
From: MikeL2

Hi Nigel

I watched all the games this weekend. Great games to watch. Especially from England and Wales and of course New Zealand in beating the strong Ireland team. I had a bit of a problem with fitting the Rugby and football but managed !

I don't think we English will miss you not cheering....but I will be cheering both Wales and England.

I am Looking forward to watching the semis.


Cheers Mike


21 Oct 19 - 04:26 PM (#4014757)
Subject: RE: BS: Rugby World Cup 2019
From: WalkaboutsVerse

"England v New Zealand" (NP) or Aotearoa?!

Ka Mate! Ka Mate! Ka Ora! Ka Ora!...


23 Oct 19 - 03:43 PM (#4015078)
Subject: RE: BS: Rugby World Cup 2019
From: WalkaboutsVerse

My poem, from WalkaboutsVerse, on "Aotearoa"


25 Oct 19 - 02:21 PM (#4015382)
Subject: RE: BS: Rugby World Cup 2019
From: MikeL2

HI

An early rise in the morning to enable us +(wife) be ready for England v New Zealand in the Semis.

I think it will be a great game.
I will be cheering England on and I think for one we may be able to hold the World @ s best players.

Cheers

Mike


26 Oct 19 - 06:34 AM (#4015464)
Subject: RE: BS: Rugby World Cup 2019
From: Nigel Parsons

England 19: New Zealand 7
So England in the final for next week to face either Wales or South Africa, depending on tomorrow's result.
CYMRU AM BYTH, Come on Wales!
We can make this an all Northern Hemisphere final. (except for the setting)


26 Oct 19 - 07:03 AM (#4015472)
Subject: RE: BS: Rugby World Cup 2019
From: Roger the Skiffler

Great game. Contrast the full stadia with the World Athletics from Doha, real local enthusiasm even though Japan is out.
RtS


26 Oct 19 - 07:04 AM (#4015473)
Subject: RE: BS: Rugby World Cup 2019
From: Big Al Whittle

if it works out as England versus Wales, there wasn't much point in going to Japan. Just down the A5.


26 Oct 19 - 07:21 AM (#4015478)
Subject: RE: BS: Rugby World Cup 2019
From: G-Force

Isn't Japan in the northern hemisphere?


26 Oct 19 - 08:22 AM (#4015490)
Subject: RE: BS: Rugby World Cup 2019
From: SPB-Cooperator

If Wales win tomorrow, then the final will be a practice for the next 6 nations!


26 Oct 19 - 08:31 AM (#4015491)
Subject: RE: BS: Rugby World Cup 2019
From: WalkaboutsVerse

...hopefully with more self-belief/without the mercenaries.


26 Oct 19 - 09:21 AM (#4015496)
Subject: RE: BS: Rugby World Cup 2019
From: Steve Shaw

Well done, chaps. I still don't understand the first bloody thing about rugby (except that I know it's a game played by men with oval balls).


26 Oct 19 - 09:38 AM (#4015504)
Subject: RE: BS: Rugby World Cup 2019
From: Nigel Parsons

My mistake. Of Course Japan is in the Northern hemisphere. It's just far away.


26 Oct 19 - 12:04 PM (#4015547)
Subject: RE: BS: Rugby World Cup 2019
From: punkfolkrocker

I've just asked my mrs who she'll support in the final
if Wales don't win tomorrow...


26 Oct 19 - 12:11 PM (#4015550)
Subject: RE: BS: Rugby World Cup 2019
From: Steve Shaw

Yes, massive game tomorrow all right. I fancy Liverpool to beat Tottenham three nil...

:-)


26 Oct 19 - 01:02 PM (#4015558)
Subject: RE: BS: Rugby World Cup 2019
From: Bonzo3legs

All Blacks well and truly thrashed!!!!!


26 Oct 19 - 01:43 PM (#4015561)
Subject: RE: BS: Rugby World Cup 2019
From: WalkaboutsVerse

"Yes, massive game tomorrow all right. I fancy Liverpool to beat Tottenham three nil..." (SS)...yet more mercenary sportspeople in a premier league/farce.


26 Oct 19 - 03:43 PM (#4015577)
Subject: RE: BS: Rugby World Cup 2019
From: Raggytash

Superb display from England this morning. Lay a few ghosts to bed.

I look forward to tomorrows encounter. I would think that eithe Wales or France will not relish playing England in the final after todays magnificent display.


26 Oct 19 - 03:54 PM (#4015578)
Subject: RE: BS: Rugby World Cup 2019
From: Bonzo3legs

I think that the All Blacks miss Dan Carter!


26 Oct 19 - 06:39 PM (#4015594)
Subject: RE: BS: Rugby World Cup 2019
From: Bonzo3legs

Demolished was the word used on the BBC website!!


27 Oct 19 - 07:38 AM (#4015640)
Subject: RE: BS: Rugby World Cup 2019
From: MikeL2

Hi
Oh Dear.....

South Africa just got home in a boring kicking game. They just about earned the win. All those plans for a Wales v England game....... Booooo Hooo.

I think England can beat South Africa but they will have to be at their best.

Cheers

Mike


27 Oct 19 - 02:47 PM (#4015711)
Subject: RE: BS: Rugby World Cup 2019
From: punkfolkrocker

The wife's not too happy...

But would be even more upset if England thrashed Wales in the final...


28 Oct 19 - 09:13 PM (#4015932)
Subject: RE: BS: Rugby World Cup 2019
From: Mrrzy

Go England!


29 Oct 19 - 05:04 AM (#4015954)
Subject: RE: BS: Rugby World Cup 2019
From: Roger the Skiffler

The mischievous me wanted the English team to follow the Haka with the Hokey Kokey!
RtS


29 Oct 19 - 12:32 PM (#4016025)
Subject: RE: BS: Rugby World Cup 2019
From: Dave the Gnome

Why not the Evesham stick dance? :-)


29 Oct 19 - 02:57 PM (#4016055)
Subject: RE: BS: Rugby World Cup 2019
From: Mrrzy

Wait is it really at 4.30 am mudcat time?


30 Oct 19 - 08:45 PM (#4016244)
Subject: RE: BS: Rugby World Cup 2019
From: Tattie Bogle

I went and booked (many weeks ago!) our flu jags for 9.30. this Saturday morning, never realising that it would be RWC Final morning! Hubby not happy: will be first in the queue when the surgery opens at 8.30.!


01 Nov 19 - 08:54 PM (#4016738)
Subject: RE: BS: Rugby World Cup 2019
From: Tattie Bogle

8 hours until kick-off!


02 Nov 19 - 03:05 AM (#4016760)
Subject: RE: BS: Rugby World Cup 2019
From: Raedwulf

2 hours till kick off. Too early for the Earwig song? You know the one - "Earwig-o! Earwig-o! Earwig-o!"

P.S. Japan actually play in SH rugby's second tier comp (along with Canada & the US, plus the 3 PI teams). What I'm really hoping for from this RWC (apart from an England win!) is that Japan & Fiji get invited to join the SH T1 competition (Japan is surely a commercial no-brainer, Fiji not so viable) with a promotion / relegation spot to encourage the T2 nations. And that would also make space for Uruguay & Namibia in the T2 comp (since Argentina & SA are already in the T1, this seems the natural fit), who are the only T2 nations without regular competitive rugby. The only thing then required is a play-off match between the 6N wooden spoon & the top NH T2 side (Georgia, usually) but I'm not holding my breath over that closed shop being slightly opened!


02 Nov 19 - 05:03 AM (#4016771)
Subject: RE: BS: Rugby World Cup 2019
From: WalkaboutsVerse

I don't like mercenary sportspeople - be they coaches/managers or players - nor the cowards who employ &/or support them; thus, I admired Eddie Jones (with a Japanese wife & parent) when he coached Japan NOT England.

And, if the coach/manager is not important to the COMPETITION, why foreign coaches/managers?!


02 Nov 19 - 05:17 AM (#4016776)
Subject: RE: BS: Rugby World Cup 2019
From: Steve Shaw

As a rugby non-aficionado, though a footie tribalist par excellence, I'm a bit split. A victory for SA would be great for that country. A victory for us might help Boris...

But my tribalistic instincts must prevail. So come on, lads. I'll be listening to Radio 3 this morning, as there's no point watching a game in which I won't have a clue what's going on. And there's Villa and Liverpool later...


02 Nov 19 - 06:02 AM (#4016784)
Subject: RE: BS: Rugby World Cup 2019
From: WalkaboutsVerse

I.e., Steve - there is a world 11 against a world 11 later. PLEASE turn against the foreign face/REREGULATE


02 Nov 19 - 06:53 AM (#4016797)
Subject: RE: BS: Rugby World Cup 2019
From: WalkaboutsVerse

I hope Eddie Jones now gets his old job back as coach/manager of Japan and continues coaching Japanese youth, as he has been doing as an aside through the tournament.

And as for the 2 estranged codes of rugby, my alternative "One Rugby"


02 Nov 19 - 07:03 AM (#4016802)
Subject: RE: BS: Rugby World Cup 2019
From: Raedwulf

Bugger!

Congratulations, South Africa, the best team won.

Not much else you can say, really!


02 Nov 19 - 08:38 AM (#4016817)
Subject: RE: BS: Rugby World Cup 2019
From: Workingtonman

it's not often i want both teams to lose in a game in which i have no interest - workington man

however, it might be nice not to have our streets full of noisy, drunken gammons


02 Nov 19 - 09:42 AM (#4016823)
Subject: RE: BS: Rugby World Cup 2019
From: Steve Shaw

And no feelgood factor for Boris to exploit...


02 Nov 19 - 10:15 AM (#4016830)
Subject: RE: BS: Rugby World Cup 2019
From: Dave Hanson

It's no disgrace for England to lose to South Africa, a very fine team without doubt.

Dave H


02 Nov 19 - 10:27 AM (#4016831)
Subject: RE: BS: Rugby World Cup 2019
From: WalkaboutsVerse

...but, as I say, Dave, what IS a disgrace is the way modern English are so content to get wallets out and employ mercenaries to compete for us.


02 Nov 19 - 11:46 AM (#4016841)
Subject: RE: BS: Rugby World Cup 2019
From: punkfolkrocker

The November Sumo Wrestilng Tournament starts very soon...

It's like watching a scrum of just two men...

Recap: The September 2019 GRAND SUMO


03 Nov 19 - 10:21 AM (#4016995)
Subject: RE: BS: Rugby World Cup 2019
From: MikeL2

Hi Davw,

I agree...England lost to a much better team. South Africa had too much fire power for what is a good England side.

Cheers

Mike


04 Nov 19 - 02:47 AM (#4017113)
Subject: RE: BS: Rugby World Cup 2019
From: WalkaboutsVerse

I imagine the main thing Eddie Jones cares about after losing the #rugbyworldcup2019 is his market value going down a bit; &, if Alf Ramsey came out of the grave, he'd probably paraphrase Enoch Powell & say modern English have gone mad with such mercenaries.


04 Nov 19 - 12:24 PM (#4017180)
Subject: RE: BS: Rugby World Cup 2019
From: punkfolkrocker

But Alf won't rise from the grave,
and you might imagine any words you like,
but you can't shoehorn them into the mouth of any corpses to suit your own ideological delusions...

Yes.. that Enoch Powell.. very fondly remembered by the folks who were fond of him...


04 Nov 19 - 02:48 PM (#4017197)
Subject: RE: BS: Rugby World Cup 2019
From: WalkaboutsVerse

Thinking that foreign mercenaries should NOT be employed to compete for us is NOT delusion, PFR.


04 Nov 19 - 03:00 PM (#4017202)
Subject: RE: BS: Rugby World Cup 2019
From: punkfolkrocker

Walkie - I actually agree that there are not sufficient English born footballers being nurtured
to premier league and world level...

Same applies, perhaps to a lesser extent, to Rugby [this thread's topic btw..]

But it's the 'keep foreigners out' strand of your 'beliefs'
that is a boring imposition on the threads you pick on contributing to,
That is what I'll pull you up on in as good humoured and amicable a way as I can...


04 Nov 19 - 05:13 PM (#4017222)
Subject: RE: BS: Rugby World Cup 2019
From: WalkaboutsVerse

'keep foreigners out' strand (PFR)...I would NOT keep genuine asylum seekers for which England is their nearest safe country out, nor would I prevent them playing sport at any level.


04 Nov 19 - 06:00 PM (#4017227)
Subject: RE: BS: Rugby World Cup 2019
From: Steve Shaw

How bloody nice of you.


05 Nov 19 - 02:27 AM (#4017260)
Subject: RE: BS: Rugby World Cup 2019
From: WalkaboutsVerse

Having the United Nations make all economic/CAPITALIST immigration illegal would also be "nice" for humanity, Steve; it's our world/our UN that should be multicultural - NOT each nation NOT England - i.e., "Nationalism Without Conquest" and Liverpool F.C. with Scousers and England National Rugby Union Team with English.


05 Nov 19 - 12:12 PM (#4017293)
Subject: RE: BS: Rugby World Cup 2019
From: punkfolkrocker

Walkie - it's a bloody good job neither you or me
have any influence, power, and authority in the real world...

I also have crackpot theories which if they could be implemented
would lead to severe restictions on activities and folks
that get on my nerves...

Now if only I could convince our government to build the necessary internment and re-education camps...

.. then the anti social git will think twice about letting his dog crap outside our back gate...

Walkie, do your ideas also extend to uniformed snatch squads bundling undesirable folks
into the back of vans,
never for them to be heard of again...???


Anyway back on topic, talking about the rugby world cup,
where the next one to be held, and what time zone will it be in...???


05 Nov 19 - 02:51 PM (#4017334)
Subject: RE: BS: Rugby World Cup 2019
From: Nigel Parsons

Anyway back on topic, talking about the rugby world cup,
where the next one to be held, and what time zone will it be in...???

8 Sept - 21 Oct 2023: France: GMT-1


And back off-topic again:
uniformed snatch squads
Is this down to hair-styling, or 'vajazzling'?


05 Nov 19 - 02:57 PM (#4017335)
Subject: RE: BS: Rugby World Cup 2019
From: punkfolkrocker

Nigel - in my equivalent to walkie's bonkers utopia,
anyone caught tampering with natural grown pubes will get interned for 're-education'...

Bring back the 1970s...


05 Nov 19 - 03:09 PM (#4017337)
Subject: RE: BS: Rugby World Cup 2019
From: WalkaboutsVerse

"Walkie - it's a bloody good job neither you or me
have any influence, power, and authority in the real world..." (PFR)...I wish it was a few hundred million, but at least a few hundred thousand have read at least some of my verses - not too bad for a part-time amateur; and I keep trying because I think my way IS the best way forward for humanity, and certainly not the bonkers utopia of a crackpot!!


05 Nov 19 - 03:21 PM (#4017339)
Subject: RE: BS: Rugby World Cup 2019
From: punkfolkrocker

"but at least a few hundred thousand have read at least some of my verses"

..and looking at populist social media, we can guess the likely demographic of your readers...???

Nowt so wrong with friedly national rivalry when it comes to sport,
like for instance a rugby world cup,

But so much is suspect about nationalist internet 'influencers'
and their followers,
when international sporting events are abused as a vehicle for spreading dodgy propaganda...