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23 Mar 16 - 11:52 AM (#3780620)
Subject: BS: You say tomato...
From: Dave the Gnome

Yes, I know it has been discussed 70 million times before but I just found another transatlantic difference that I find weird. Using a priority inbox in Google Mail gives me "Congratulations! You've read all the important messages in your inbox" when I have done said clearance. At work. At home it says "Woohoo! You've read all the important messages in your inbox." Guess what the difference is? Yes - You have got it. Work settings are UK display language. Home is US display language.

Do you people west of the pond really use "WooHoo" instead of "Congratulations"?

Incidentally - I have left it. I quite like Woohoo! :-)

Cheers

DtG


23 Mar 16 - 11:56 AM (#3780621)
Subject: RE: BS: You say tomato...
From: Greg F.

Not ordinarily, Dave. At least I don't. Only one Yank's opinion, of course.


23 Mar 16 - 11:57 AM (#3780622)
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From: Bill D

I doubt that one in a million ever uses "WooHoo" in such a context.
I suspect that some software programmer was attempting to be clever.


23 Mar 16 - 12:01 PM (#3780623)
Subject: RE: BS: You say tomato...
From: GUEST,HiLo

Not all English speakers on the "other side of the pond" speak or spell in American . Just an observation. But I have never seen or heard WooHoo, thankfully.


23 Mar 16 - 12:08 PM (#3780626)
Subject: RE: BS: You say tomato...
From: GUEST

Some of us say HooWah!


23 Mar 16 - 12:20 PM (#3780628)
Subject: RE: BS: You say tomato...
From: keberoxu

You say mis-syle, I say mis-sul....


23 Mar 16 - 12:21 PM (#3780629)
Subject: RE: BS: You say tomato...
From: GUEST,Musket

It's pure Derbyshire mate.

It's to do with wooing the ladies.

You grab hold of their bum whilst shouting Woo!Hoo!!!


23 Mar 16 - 12:22 PM (#3780631)
Subject: RE: BS: You say tomato...
From: GUEST,Musket

Tomatoes enter into it.

Vinegar does though, at a stroke.


23 Mar 16 - 12:53 PM (#3780639)
Subject: RE: BS: You say tomato...
From: GUEST,Musket

Where did me soddin' "don't" go?
🤔


23 Mar 16 - 01:32 PM (#3780648)
Subject: RE: BS: You say tomato...
From: GUEST,Eliza

My husband loves McDonalds (poor sod) and it's taken me ages to get used to the person behind the counter asking, "Ter go?" I used to reply, "I beg your pardon?" They'd repeat it, "Ter go?" and I'd repeat, "I beg your pardon?" This little charade could go on for hours, and very pleasant it was, but my husband was waiting at home hungry. The lad then asked if I wanted to eat the thing there and then, or take it away to poison myself with later. I requested the latter. But the 'ter go?' thing never did sink into my thick brain for ages.

I also could't appreciate the word 'fries' for chips. But the tiny, hard needle-sharp matchsticks in a cardboard envelope are certainly NOT chips anyway.

When I watch the music channel on TV, and the American R&B rappers (which I enjoy) I can see how American is actually a completely different language to ours; a Creole perhaps, or a pidgin?

I'm too old for these capers. English aint what it used to be.


23 Mar 16 - 01:53 PM (#3780651)
Subject: RE: BS: You say tomato...
From: GUEST,punkfolkrocker

Today while I was stuck in the house waiting for an amazon logistics delivery,
I watched the 1953 British crime melodrama "Grand National Night" [aka "Wicked Lady"]

toffs, servants, a butler, a village bobby, and a persistent big city police detective...

Now that is how English should be talked proper... 😜


23 Mar 16 - 02:03 PM (#3780653)
Subject: RE: BS: You say tomato...
From: GUEST,Eliza

Well, punkfolkrocker, the early fifties is when I learned to speak English (born late forties) so that film would be right up my street!

I really am fascinated by the R&B songs on TV. What does it mean please when the singer mentions his girlfriend 'getting low'? In English it would mean she was feeling rather depressed, but I have a suspicion it's something a bit rude.

Flo Rida, Chris Brown, Enyo and Usher all sing brilliantly, but I often haven't much of a clue as to what about. And what are the 'Popo'? Police perhaps? Fascinating stuff!


23 Mar 16 - 02:05 PM (#3780654)
Subject: RE: BS: You say tomato...
From: Dave the Gnome

Musket - Do you do that at the same time you weigh their breasts? :-)


23 Mar 16 - 02:21 PM (#3780662)
Subject: RE: BS: You say tomato...
From: GUEST,HiLo

I have never understood why Americans say erb instead of herb .


23 Mar 16 - 02:25 PM (#3780665)
Subject: RE: BS: You say tomato...
From: GUEST,punkfolkrocker

Woo Hoo


23 Mar 16 - 02:27 PM (#3780666)
Subject: RE: BS: You say tomato...
From: GUEST,punkfolkrocker

Blimey Dave... something told me you had that on your mind.. must definitely be telepathy !!!!! 😜


23 Mar 16 - 02:32 PM (#3780668)
Subject: RE: BS: You say tomato...
From: GUEST,punkfolkrocker

... or not...

maybe I just have 2 threads open in different tabs and got momentarily confused....????? 😜


23 Mar 16 - 02:34 PM (#3780669)
Subject: RE: BS: You say tomato...
From: GUEST,Eliza

I rather like the expression 'baby shower'. I imagine a flock of obliging storks arriving with a mass delivery.
And 'washroom' for toilet is good too.
'In back' is strange. What happened to 'the' in there?
I do find 'ass' for arse ambiguous. It could cause all sorts of misunderstandings with donkeys and bottoms. (Jesus springs to mind)
I've never been to The States. I think I'd like it, but I'd need a phrase book.


23 Mar 16 - 02:44 PM (#3780671)
Subject: RE: BS: You say tomato...
From: GUEST,Musket

Dunno but if she's selling those puppies, I'll have the one with the pink nose.

(Child Gag No.207. Circa 1979)


23 Mar 16 - 02:50 PM (#3780672)
Subject: RE: BS: You say tomato...
From: GUEST,punkfolkrocker

.. and I'll have the bearded collie pup on her lap..... 😜


23 Mar 16 - 02:57 PM (#3780674)
Subject: RE: BS: You say tomato...
From: Backwoodsman

Welcome back Eliza,more at to have your words of wisdom here again! 👍😊


23 Mar 16 - 03:02 PM (#3780678)
Subject: RE: BS: You say tomato...
From: Dave the Gnome

I'll put my WooHoos on here as well as the wrong thread...

Better WooHoos


23 Mar 16 - 03:09 PM (#3780681)
Subject: RE: BS: You say tomato...
From: GUEST,Eliza

Thank you Backwoodsman. I stopped posting on here ages ago because someone else calling themselves Eliza was impersonating me, and I got the wind up. But I have missed everybody. I can always turn my laptop off if the going gets rough again. Also I've been rather ill, but am fighting fit once more, and ready for anything!


23 Mar 16 - 03:13 PM (#3780683)
Subject: RE: BS: You say tomato...
From: GUEST,Musket

Eyup BWM! Have The UN opened that bridge yet?

Tonight, Wheatsheaf. The rookery is in France so silly sod here is "running" the singaround.


23 Mar 16 - 03:26 PM (#3780689)
Subject: RE: BS: You say tomato...
From: Steve Shaw

"I do find 'ass' for arse ambiguous. It could cause all sorts of misunderstandings with donkeys and bottoms."

Not only that, it causes confusion as to what it is belonging to your neighbour that you are and are not allowed to covet. :-)


23 Mar 16 - 03:45 PM (#3780700)
Subject: RE: BS: You say tomato...
From: GUEST,Eliza

Hahaha Steve! I have to admit I do covet my lovely neighbour's 'ass'. She's a super lady and looks very attractive. My 'ass' is enormous, but there...too many crumpets...


23 Mar 16 - 03:49 PM (#3780701)
Subject: RE: BS: You say tomato...
From: GUEST,Musket

Nothing to bray about.

Talking of tomatoes, they come in tins, not bloody cans.

Oh, and its aluminIUm.

Has anyone noticed the American styled adverts for films coming to the cinema lately? "In Cinemas June Twenty Three." No, stop it. An advert in The UK should say "In cinemas Twenty third of June." We don't all wear baseball caps, have no sense of decorum and have kids with type II diabetes.

It's been one of those days. Off to the local folk club now. Tatty bye.


23 Mar 16 - 04:13 PM (#3780705)
Subject: RE: BS: You say tomato...
From: GUEST,Lighter

Few people say "Woohoo!" You know who says it a lot? Homer Simpson.

Decades ago they sometimes said "Wahoo!" and "Yahoo!" (hence Yahoo.com).

But most of us now say "Wow!" "Whoa!" or "Yes!" in such circumstances.

A few say "Yeehah!"


23 Mar 16 - 04:18 PM (#3780706)
Subject: RE: BS: You say tomato...
From: GUEST,Raggytash

From market to market with my brother Jim
well somebody threw a tomato at him
now tomatoes are soft and they don't pierce the skin
but this bugger did it, it come wrapped in a tin.


23 Mar 16 - 05:10 PM (#3780710)
Subject: RE: BS: You say tomato...
From: Backwoodsman

The Border Checkpoint's still closed, Musket, but I would have come the long way round, via Sunny Scunny and the M180, if it had been at the Red Lion. But I don't find the Wheatsheaf such an attractive proposition - sorry!

I PMd you, BTW.


23 Mar 16 - 05:38 PM (#3780713)
Subject: RE: BS: You say tomato...
From: meself

"Woohoo!" is the cry of young women possessed by the urge to express their joie-de-vie while in a bar drinking their faces off.


23 Mar 16 - 07:37 PM (#3780742)
Subject: RE: BS: You say tomato...
From: GUEST,Musket

Oh bugger. I've been pm'd. That means logging in grrr..

A quiet night, he says, putting it politely.


23 Mar 16 - 08:57 PM (#3780753)
Subject: RE: BS: You say tomato...
From: Donuel

Lighter is right about Homer.
The last candidate to say YeeHaa was Howard Dean.


23 Mar 16 - 09:54 PM (#3780758)
Subject: RE: BS: You say tomato...
From: Bee-dubya-ell

"Woohoo!" is something one says when "Well, fuck me silly!" would be inappropriate.


23 Mar 16 - 10:30 PM (#3780762)
Subject: RE: BS: You say tomato...
From: GUEST,Captain Hadlock

Well, la-dee-da! or whoop-de-do! depending on income bracket.


http://www.tintinologist.org/guides/lists/curses.html


23 Mar 16 - 11:44 PM (#3780765)
Subject: RE: BS: You say tomato...
From: GUEST,leeneia

The DH says "WooHoo" sometimes, but not with respect to anything as trivial as emptying the Inbox. For example:

The Royals just beat the Yankees 10-6 after 10 innings.
WooHoo!


24 Mar 16 - 01:47 AM (#3780770)
Subject: RE: BS: You say tomato...
From: GUEST

The American Time Lord - Dr Woohoo.


24 Mar 16 - 05:02 AM (#3780790)
Subject: RE: BS: You say tomato...
From: GUEST

The American Tarm Lard?

Mike (from behind the setee!)


24 Mar 16 - 05:56 AM (#3780800)
Subject: RE: BS: You say tomato...
From: Dave the Gnome

To give the thread a musical bent (bent what, I hear you ask) I wonder if Tam Lin was a Time Lord. Same initials and he does come and go very mysteriously...

That should set the conspiracy theorists off :-)


24 Mar 16 - 10:55 AM (#3780834)
Subject: RE: BS: You say tomato...
From: Bill D

"Talking of tomatoes, they come in tins, not bloody cans.

Oh, and its aluminIUm.
"

'Can' is generic, no matter what the material is: those containers have not been made of tin for many years.... same with TIN foil, which is now aluminum foil. (and you may remain stubborn about your cherished pronunciation & spelling, but world-wide you are outnumbered.

http://www.worldwidewords.org/articles/aluminium.htm

All those extra letters (especially 'u') use up SO much ink over the years, and take extra time to type. we poor colonists prefer to save whenever possible. ;>)


24 Mar 16 - 10:59 AM (#3780836)
Subject: RE: BS: You say tomato...
From: Dave the Gnome

I may have to go outside and roll a fag...


24 Mar 16 - 12:36 PM (#3780851)
Subject: RE: BS: You say tomato...
From: Backwoodsman

Enjoy!


24 Mar 16 - 12:42 PM (#3780852)
Subject: RE: BS: You say tomato...
From: Steve Shaw

Don't tell them US girls what you keep in your trunks, Dave. They'll only think you have two cars.


Maybe I should kerb my enthusiasm for this little thread diversion...


You're not wrong, Bill, though over here we decidedly say "aluminIum". As a touché, the misspelling of "phosphorus" with a third o is very common your end!


24 Mar 16 - 12:42 PM (#3780853)
Subject: RE: BS: You say tomato...
From: Musket

How the fuck the colonies can out anything Mother Albion is beyond me.

Anyway, if it were "can", the song (faithfully sung above by Raggy) wouldn't work. Tin. Live with it.

It can work the other way of course. Back when I was a volunteer on hospital radio, I recall the first time I ever heard anything by ZZ Top. Yes, I introduced them as Zed Zed Top. My bad, as we are encouraged to say these days.

Oh, and whilst we are at it, I am about to go and have a shit. I am most certainly not going to "take a shit." If anyone wishes to argue over that, you will have to wait as I can only deal with one shit at a time.

💩


24 Mar 16 - 12:46 PM (#3780854)
Subject: RE: BS: You say tomato...
From: Steve Shaw

Will you be going to the rest room for that, Musket? :-)


24 Mar 16 - 12:58 PM (#3780855)
Subject: RE: BS: You say tomato...
From: Backwoodsman

"All those extra letters (especially 'u') use up SO much ink over the years, and take extra time to type. we poor colonists prefer to save whenever possible."

Errrrrmmm....'anesthesiologist' (US) v. 'anaesthetist' (UK)? Four extra letters for.....what?? 😜😄


24 Mar 16 - 01:33 PM (#3780858)
Subject: RE: BS: You say tomato...
From: Kampervan

Tin? Can? I started work at Smedley's in Spalding (UK)the early 1970's and one of the first things I was told was NEVER to use the word 'tin'.

I worked in a canning factory,putting food into cans.

A bit like the RAF never say 'plane', it's always 'aeroplane.'

Cans are sometimes tinned but they are always cans.


24 Mar 16 - 01:44 PM (#3780863)
Subject: RE: BS: You say tomato...
From: Musket

Naw they're tins. Never been anything else. You make tins at a cannery.

Sure you weren't making them for the export market? 😂

(To be fair, people say cement mixer when they mean concrete mixer. Cement is just an ingredient. In the industry, you say it correctly, elsewhere you go with the flow.)

Oh... Almost forgot. "Friendly fire." That's as American as pumpkin pie and a bath sponge on a long stick.

Oh, when I went earlier to drop the kids off at the pool, I didn't use the rest room nor the John. I used the shit house, thank you very much.


24 Mar 16 - 01:52 PM (#3780868)
Subject: RE: BS: You say tomato...
From: GUEST,Eliza

A public 'restroom' is the last place one would want to 'rest'. They usually smell awful. Deposit and go.

I wonder if the expression 'a can of worms' is US or UK? I've never heard 'a tin of worms'.

My old dad was in the RAF and always used 'kite' for an aeroplane. I don't know if this was general or just one of his eccentricities.

I believe if one is 'pissed' in USA one is a bit cross, not inebriated.

They also call a pet cat a 'kitty' not a 'pussy' like us. Perhaps that's rather wise...


24 Mar 16 - 02:02 PM (#3780869)
Subject: RE: BS: You say tomato...
From: Musket

Aye Eliza. I used to take a newspaper with me though to get sone rest back in the days of two toddlers, two dogs and her lot always coming over for a cuppa. Rest room indeed in those days. I called it the library.

Pussy is used less, presumably since the double entendres of Mrs Slocombe?

On related titillating humour (note the U) a fanny is not quite our definition, geographically speaking. There was an American music hall song a friend used to sing along the lines of "Everybody wants to hold my fanny, everybody wants to caress my fanny but if anybody was to kiss my fanny! Well, my fanny belongs to me!" In The US, a man could sing it and be funny, takes a feminine touch over here....


24 Mar 16 - 02:05 PM (#3780871)
Subject: RE: BS: You say tomato...
From: Kampervan

Alternatively you mix 'muck' in a concrete mixer.

Concrete is for paths and things,cement, as you say, is the binder that sticks things together, don't know if there is a technical term for the stuff that goes in between bricks other than 'muck'.

I think that saying 'cans' is a bit of an industry thing to prove that you're in the know. A bit like when I first joined Findus in the mid 70's and was told that the parent company was called 'Nestlay' not Nestles. Although lots of people say Nestlay nowadays.

Don't you just love it.


24 Mar 16 - 02:20 PM (#3780873)
Subject: RE: BS: You say tomato...
From: Backwoodsman

The stuff that goes between bricks is 'gobbo' here in the Backwoods, KV.


24 Mar 16 - 02:30 PM (#3780875)
Subject: RE: BS: You say tomato...
From: MGM·Lion

'Restroom' is one of those Transpond euphemisms that can cause much flack -- and inconvenience [no pun intended]. American friend once told me of her puzzlement on first coming here at being told, when asking staff for directions to the restroom, that they didn't have one.

But of course all the usages for that particular facility start as euphemisms. Readers of 'What Katy Did' will recall the principal of the school proudly showing the visiting parents the row of washbasins, with the announcement "Our lavatory". And as for 'toilet'... And, now that 'bathroom' has taken over [or had last time I looked], what do Americans these days call the room in which one does - er- bath [or as they would say, bathe]?

≈M≈


24 Mar 16 - 03:03 PM (#3780882)
Subject: RE: BS: You say tomato...
From: GUEST,LynnT

the stuff between bricks is mortar.

LynnT
stacker of drystone walls


24 Mar 16 - 03:23 PM (#3780887)
Subject: RE: BS: You say tomato...
From: GUEST

24 March 2016

To the citizens of the United States of America from Her Sovereign Majesty Queen... Elizabeth II:

( Not meant for those lacking a sense of humor, and or those that refuse to read a note in its entirety before making a comment)

In light of your immediate failure to financially manage yourselves and also in recent years your tendency to elect incompetent Presidents of the USA and therefore not able to govern yourselves, we hereby give notice of the revocation of your independence, effective immediately. (You should look up 'revocation' in the Oxford English Dictionary.)

Her Sovereign Majesty Queen Elizabeth II will resume monarchical duties over all states, commonwealths, and territories (except Kansas , which she does not fancy).

Your new Prime Minister, David Cameron, will appoint a Governor for America without the need for further elections.

Congress and the Senate will be disbanded. A questionnaire may be circulated sometime next year to determine whether any of you noticed.

To aid in the transition to a British Crown dependency, the following rules are introduced with immediate effect:

1. The letter 'U' will be reinstated in words such as 'colour,' 'favour,' 'labour' and 'neighbour.' Likewise, you will learn to spell 'doughnut' without skipping half the letters, and the suffix '-ize' will be replaced by the suffix '-ise.'Generally, you will be expected to raise your vocabulary to acceptable levels. (look up 'vocabulary'). (I love that one)

Using the same twenty-seven words interspersed with filler noises such as ''like' and 'you know' is an unacceptable and inefficient form of communication. There is no such thing as U.S. English. We will let Microsoft know on your behalf. The Microsoft spell-checker will be adjusted to take into account the reinstated letter 'u'' and the elimination of '-ize.' ' (I love that one too)

3. July 4th will no longer be celebrated as a holiday.

4. You will learn to resolve personal issues without using guns, lawyers, or therapists. The fact that you need so many lawyers and therapists shows that you're not quite ready to be independent. Guns should only be used for shooting grouse. If you can't sort things out without suing someone or speaking to a therapist, then you're not ready to shoot grouse.

5. Therefore, you will no longer be allowed to own or carry anything more dangerous than a vegetable peeler. Although a permit will be required if you wish to carry a vegetable peeler in public.

6. All intersections will be replaced with roundabouts, and you will start driving on the left side with immediate effect. At the same time, you will go metric with immediate effect and without the benefit of conversion tables. Both roundabouts and metrication will help you understand the British sense of humour.

7. The former USA will adopt UK prices on petrol (which you have been calling gasoline) of roughly $10/US gallon. Get used to it.)

8.You will learn to make real chips. Those things you call French fries are not real chips, and those things you insist on calling potato chips are properly called crisps. Real chips are thick cut, fried in animal fat, and dressed not with catsup but with vinegar.


9. The cold, tasteless stuff you insist on calling beer is not actually beer at all. Henceforth, only proper British Bitter will be referred to as beer, and European brews of known and accepted provenance will be referred to as Lager. New Zealand beer is also acceptable, as New Zealand is pound for pound the greatest sporting nation on earth and it can only be due to the beer. They are also part of the British Commonwealth - see what it did for them. American brands will be referred to as Near-Frozen Gnat's Urine, so that all can be sold without risk of further confusion.

10. Hollywood will be required occasionally to cast English actors as good guys. Hollywood will also be required to cast English actors to play English characters. Watching Andie Macdowell attempt English dialogue in Four Weddings and a Funeral was an experience akin to having one's ears removed with a cheese grater.

11. You will cease playing American football. There are only two kinds of proper football; one you call soccer, and rugby (dominated by the New Zealanders). Those of you brave enough will, in time, be allowed to play rugby (which has some similarities to American football, but does not involve stopping for a rest every twenty seconds or wearing full kevlar body armour like a bunch of nancies).

12. Further, you will stop playing baseball. It is not reasonable to host an event called the World Series for a game which is not played outside of America . Since only 2.1% of you are aware there is a world beyond your borders, your error is understandable. You will learn cricket, and we will let you face the Australians (World dominators) first to take the sting out of their deliveries.

13. You must tell us who killed JFK. It's been driving us mad.

14. An internal revenue agent (i.e. tax collector) from Her Majesty's Government will be with you shortly to ensure the acquisition of all monies due (backdated to 1776).

15. Daily Tea Time begins promptly at 4 p.m. with proper cups, with saucers, and never mugs, with high quality biscuits (cookies) and cakes; plus strawberries (with cream) when in season.

God Save the Queen!


24 Mar 16 - 04:23 PM (#3780909)
Subject: RE: BS: You say tomato...
From: Steve Shaw

"... you will start driving on the left side with immediate effect."

Now now, be a little kind. Allow them to make this change gradually.


24 Mar 16 - 04:33 PM (#3780911)
Subject: RE: BS: You say tomato...
From: GUEST,Musket

If Lynne is into dry stone walling, why the fascination with mortar?

I reckon there's a bloke in our village gradually deciding which side to drive on...


24 Mar 16 - 05:01 PM (#3780916)
Subject: RE: BS: You say tomato...
From: Backwoodsman

"the stuff between bricks is mortar.

LynnT
stacker of drystone walls"


It is indeed, according to the dictionary, 'mortar', but in the Backwoods where I live, the brickies call it 'Gobbo'. The plasterers also call plaster-mix 'Gobbo'. It's the quaint local patois, tha knaws. 👍😄

Backwoodsman,
Friend, acquaintance and employer of a number of brickies and plasterers during his almost 50 years of home-ownership.


24 Mar 16 - 05:39 PM (#3780920)
Subject: RE: BS: You say tomato...
From: Bill D

'anaesthetist' ... I hear that as often as the long word. I really prefer it shorter.

But euphemisms are beyond help . Our grocery shelves are full of "bath tissue"...argghh..
I want to write to a couple of the manufacturers and complain.."Say, I tried your bath tissue, and it immediately fell apart and ruined my bath!"
It's plain, simple **toilet paper**.... (and I have no idea what a 'bog' is, even though I get the reference.)

""... you will start driving on the left side with immediate effect."

Now now, be a little kind. Allow them to make this change gradually.
"

And just who is gonna change the 279,368,081 signs? (You are outnumbered world-wide on that, also.)


24 Mar 16 - 05:52 PM (#3780923)
Subject: RE: BS: You say tomato...
From: Tradsinger

The differences between American and British English have been amusing people for many decades. My favourite [NB spelling] Americanism is "This aircraft will be airborne momentarily" which can sound alarming to British ears. Unfortunately, the linguistic trade between the UK and the USA is mainly one-way, i.e. from West to East, and we over here have been absorbing 'Americanisms' for years to the extent that we no longer regard them as Americanisms.

I [a Brit] worked in the States for several months and had no trouble at all in communication. I was wrong-footed once in the office when I was asked to put a certain document in the 'bin' [US = tray, UK = wastebasket.] but apart from that, no probs.

The linguistics of English are very complex, with non-native business people developing a sort of business English lingua franca which they readily understand but where English native speakers can rock the boat with idioms that non-native speakers don't 'get'. What would a non-native speaker make of "Are you having me on?" for example.

Anyway, I say let's rejoice in our linguistic biodiversity and let the Brits continue to laugh at American English - and vice versa.

Cheers

Tradsinger


24 Mar 16 - 09:34 PM (#3780968)
Subject: RE: BS: You say tomato...
From: GUEST,smoke trails

and I have no idea what a 'bog' is...

The English call the Irish -Bog Trotters-
and their toilets -bogs-,
do the math


24 Mar 16 - 10:31 PM (#3780973)
Subject: RE: BS: You say tomato...
From: Bill D

do the math? Ok... if you say so.... but nothing tells me WHY they call the Irish that and the origin of 'bog' as a euphemism. Sometimes origins are lost after everyone gets the reference.


24 Mar 16 - 10:52 PM (#3780975)
Subject: RE: BS: You say tomato...
From: GUEST,smoke trails

The House of Lords

WWII G.Is called it the crapper


24 Mar 16 - 11:12 PM (#3780978)
Subject: RE: BS: You say tomato...
From: Steve Shaw

Bog-trotters is not in especially common use as a pejorative for Irish people. I can imagine that bog for toilet originated in the days when the cesspit was all too open and visible, bog-like in appearance, and was deemed at least as treacherously squelchy as a real bog if you happened to find yourself in it. Just a guess.


25 Mar 16 - 12:27 AM (#3780989)
Subject: RE: BS: You say tomato...
From: Backwoodsman

interesting stuff about the siphon if flushing here....
toilet, Thomas Crapper, and the origins of the word 'crap'


25 Mar 16 - 12:31 AM (#3780990)
Subject: RE: BS: You say tomato...
From: Backwoodsman

Well what a bugger I, aided and abetted by a spell-checker which has never heard of 'siphonic', made of that. Let's try again...

Interesting stuff about the siphonic flushing toilet, Thomas Crapper, and the origins of the word 'crap' here....


25 Mar 16 - 12:31 AM (#3780991)
Subject: RE: BS: You say tomato...
From: GUEST

So who was Shitter, because a lot of bogs are named after him as well ?


25 Mar 16 - 03:08 AM (#3781001)
Subject: RE: BS: You say tomato...
From: GUEST,Eliza

Perhaps Mr Shitter's first name was 'John'.


25 Mar 16 - 03:15 AM (#3781003)
Subject: RE: BS: You say tomato...
From: GUEST,Eliza

I took classes once in British Sign Language, and in those days the sign for 'Irish' was, believe it or not, flicking an imaginary flea from your shoulder!! I was insulted to say the least (I'm half Irish)
Nowadays, BSL is more politically correct, and the sign for Irish is tapping the back of your hand with the crooked index and middle fingers of the other hand.
To return slightly to this thread, it's a shame that American Sign Language is different to BSL. We can't even use the same vocab when signing!


25 Mar 16 - 03:38 AM (#3781008)
Subject: RE: BS: You say tomato...
From: Musket

Ok, what the flying is "math?"

It's either maths or mathematics. I kept telling you.

Tsk.

I'd never heard "bog trotter" and for the life of me wouldn't equate it as meaning Irish. The land around where I live was reclaimed by ditches and gulleys a few hundred years ago and we refer to parts that don't drain well as bogs. You wouldn't call the shit house a bog in polite company but between mates, that is what it is.

AND you can't make a cup of tea.
AND a curry should have a taste to it.
AND you call that coffee?
AND breakfast cereal isn't supposed to be 99% sugar
AND taking people at face value gets you nowhere.

Right! Any French people reading this? Your turn next! Form an orderly queue. (Not that you have ever tried.)


25 Mar 16 - 03:47 AM (#3781010)
Subject: RE: BS: You say tomato...
From: GUEST,Eliza

I've never come across 'bog trotter' for Irish either. They were usually called Paddies in West London where I grew up.
(My mother was one!)
And we always called the lavatory the loo. But the boys at school used to refer to the 'bogs' (the lavatory block)


25 Mar 16 - 04:06 AM (#3781015)
Subject: RE: BS: You say tomato...
From: Backwoodsman

The Irish have always been 'Paddies' or 'Micks' round my neck of the woods. Never heard them described as 'bog-trotters'.


25 Mar 16 - 04:18 AM (#3781016)
Subject: RE: BS: You say tomato...
From: Musket

Reminds me of when the late lamented Joseph Anthony Capstick (with quite a few Irish in the audience) decided to tell an Irish joke anyway.. The joke was somewhat forgettable but a lovely aside where he had a character exclaim "Jayzuz!" To which he added "Which is odd because most of them are called Michael."


25 Mar 16 - 10:23 AM (#3781098)
Subject: RE: BS: You say tomato...
From: Steve Shaw

Dunno about Mr Shitter's first name being John. I'd have thought Jake...


25 Mar 16 - 11:00 AM (#3781112)
Subject: RE: BS: You say tomato...
From: MGM·Lion

"It's either maths or mathematics. I kept telling you."
.,,.,.

Keep telling us till you're blue in the faith, Popsicle -- & very funny you'll look. But it's 'maths' over here & 'math' over there, for all your foolishly assertive insularity: just as it's 'honour' here & 'honor' there; 'aluminium' here & 'aluminum' there; 'tap' here and 'faucet' there...

Probably no use telling you, tho. None so deaf, as they say...

≈M≈


25 Mar 16 - 11:51 AM (#3781120)
Subject: RE: BS: You say tomato...
From: MGM·Lion

'face' not 'faith'


25 Mar 16 - 12:46 PM (#3781138)
Subject: RE: BS: You say tomato...
From: Musket

Rule Britannia!

^%#ing quisling.


25 Mar 16 - 04:28 PM (#3781196)
Subject: RE: BS: You say tomato...
From: Dave the Gnome

The whole point of the thread, Michael, is supposed to be a humourous look at the differences between UK and US English. I know you enjoy having a go at Musket at every opportunity but you are not just wide of the mark with your incicive wit here. You are in a different shooting gallery.


25 Mar 16 - 04:57 PM (#3781204)
Subject: RE: BS: You say tomato...
From: MGM·Lion

It had frequently been established that the fact that one might have OPd a thread gives one no authority to dictate as to the path it is to follow. So don't tell me what is 'the whole point of the thread', if you don't mind, DtG. I shall decide which aspects of the topic I choose to address. If that doesn't suit your notions, tough-ɷ !


25 Mar 16 - 05:13 PM (#3781214)
Subject: RE: BS: You say tomato...
From: Dave the Gnome

Fair enough, Michael. In which case you will not mind one iota when I tell you to fuck off?


25 Mar 16 - 05:45 PM (#3781234)
Subject: RE: BS: You say tomato...
From: MGM·Lion

A thoroughly gnomic utterance, to be sure!

Oh, I think I can survive such an assault on my integrity, my dear little fellow. I will, however, take leave to add that, although I long since took the resolution not to indulge in such locutions on this revered forum despite the customary usages of some of the less refined, such as your goodself for instant instance, I do not think nevertheless that the formulation tu quoque would be entirely out of place, or in breach of that resolve.

Best regards azzevva

≈M≈


25 Mar 16 - 05:49 PM (#3781236)
Subject: RE: BS: You say tomato...
From: Dave the Gnome

Good. Stop talking complete bollocks and fuck off then.


25 Mar 16 - 05:56 PM (#3781238)
Subject: RE: BS: You say tomato...
From: MGM·Lion

... et tu quoque, O Light Of My Life and Darling Of My

& you don't have to have the last word, you know. You're not my mother-in-law...


25 Mar 16 - 06:00 PM (#3781239)
Subject: RE: BS: You say tomato...
From: MGM·Lion

... or perhaps you will insist on having it, under the chimerical delusion that you are my m-i-l at that: in which case, someone please send urgently for the men in the white coats...


25 Mar 16 - 06:03 PM (#3781242)
Subject: RE: BS: You say tomato...
From: MGM·Lion

Anyhow, as they say

Styx.'n'.Jagger&Richards


25 Mar 16 - 06:15 PM (#3781244)
Subject: RE: BS: You say tomato...
From: Dave the Gnome

You know, for someone who pretends to be clever you can be really thick at times. Which bit of fuck off is so difficult to understand?


25 Mar 16 - 06:27 PM (#3781247)
Subject: RE: BS: You say tomato...
From: MGM·Lion

As Inspector Jack Frost was wont to exclaim when his staff were a bit slow to leave the station after one of his briefings --

"Are you still 'ere!"

Respond, please; and I will then, I promise, leave you with the last word.

I can see how much it means to you, Darling-


25 Mar 16 - 06:30 PM (#3781248)
Subject: RE: BS: You say tomato...
From: Dave the Gnome

???

Fuck off.


25 Mar 16 - 06:31 PM (#3781249)
Subject: RE: BS: You say tomato...
From: MGM·Lion

...with just the enquiry as to whether you have any idea just what a ☯☯big>-aching bore UR.................


25 Mar 16 - 06:33 PM (#3781251)
Subject: RE: BS: You say tomato...
From: Dave the Gnome

Yep. Now will you fuck off?


25 Mar 16 - 06:56 PM (#3781258)
Subject: RE: BS: You say tomato...
From: Musket

Nurse! Get him to fuck off back to bed will you?


25 Mar 16 - 07:16 PM (#3781270)
Subject: RE: BS: You say tomato...
From: MGM·Lion

Blimey -- an even bigger -aching bore.

Oh -- 2nd look: it's only the silly old Popguns -- why, they don't even count, do they?

How do I know -- why, Nursey told me of course. She knows everything better than that silly lot of - ah - feminine generative organs...

And they have no biznis to spoil poor ickle Gnomy's fun. How often have I got to say that he has got to have the very last word, coz it so obviously means such a lot to him.

When he's had it, then I promise I really will

FUCK OFF!!!!!


25 Mar 16 - 07:30 PM (#3781276)
Subject: RE: BS: You say tomato...
From: Dave the Gnome

You can't count either. Two words. Fuck off.


26 Mar 16 - 12:19 AM (#3781327)
Subject: RE: BS: You say tomato...
From: GUEST,raccoon

Tupac Shakur's last word(s)


26 Mar 16 - 06:17 AM (#3781378)
Subject: RE: BS: You say tomato...
From: MGM·Lion

So 'off' is the last word, idiot

I know I promised to eff·off when Gnomititz had his last word but now raccoon has spoilt it for him.

Please all of you let him have it, it means such a lot to the poor little presh·presh·darling

P'raps he might even be the reincarnation of one or other of my mas-in-law at that


26 Mar 16 - 06:40 AM (#3781384)
Subject: RE: BS: You say tomato...
From: GUEST,raccoon

Wouldn't want my last word to be that word - don't think that'd be good at all...


26 Mar 16 - 07:21 AM (#3781387)
Subject: RE: BS: You say tomato...
From: Dave the Gnome

How can I make it any simpler? Michael, fuck off.


26 Mar 16 - 08:24 AM (#3781393)
Subject: RE: BS: You say tomato...
From: MGM·Lion

☞〠☜


26 Mar 16 - 08:48 AM (#3781396)
Subject: RE: BS: You say tomato...
From: MGM·Lion

"How can I make it any simpler?" ······

You can't. Why should you try. Perfect epitome of your no-doubt customary mode of thought and expression, O-thou-gnomically-noxious-nonentity.

Do you kiss your wife with that filthy foul mouth?

What a vomit-inducing speculation!

☠☠☠·☺☺☺·☠☠☠


26 Mar 16 - 08:53 AM (#3781397)
Subject: RE: BS: You say tomato...
From: GUEST,Raggytash

Michael, you can be and frequently are an obnoxious little ****. Things that you complain about in other posters suddenly become acceptably when you do them. Dual standards seem to be the only one's you adhere to. Why not just give it a rest and as Dave so eloquently says **** off.


26 Mar 16 - 09:03 AM (#3781400)
Subject: RE: BS: You say tomato...
From: MGM·Lion

"suddenly become acceptably" ...

And learn to control your adverbs, ignorant little booby!


26 Mar 16 - 09:17 AM (#3781404)
Subject: RE: BS: You say tomato...
From: Greg F.

And another temper tantrum thrown by a two year old unfolds in all its majesty.


26 Mar 16 - 09:20 AM (#3781405)
Subject: RE: BS: You say tomato...
From: Greg F.

Not you, Dave.


26 Mar 16 - 09:23 AM (#3781407)
Subject: RE: BS: You say tomato...
From: Dave the Gnome

I know, Greg, but thanks for making it clear to others:-)


26 Mar 16 - 11:01 AM (#3781425)
Subject: RE: BS: You say tomato...
From: Max

Wow. Great thread.

/sarcasm

Twits.