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Lyr Req: songs by Archie Fisher

01 Dec 99 - 05:10 PM (#143345)
Subject: Lyr Req. Archie Fisher Tunes
From: Clinton Hammond

Especially lyrics from his "Off The Map" album, with Garnet Rogers.... The broge is so thick in places I have n'a got a clue!!!

I'm especially looking for The Laird Of Udny, Mallie Leigh, and The Boatie Rows...

But any others would be greatly appreciated!

Take Ye Care Eh Folks!


01 Dec 99 - 06:34 PM (#143383)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req. Archie Fisher Tunes
From: Susanne (skw)

I suppose you've checked the DT (top right hand corner). I have several Archie Fisher songs, the three you mentioned among them - just no time to do them right now. If no one beats me, I'll post them over the next few days. - Susanne


01 Dec 99 - 11:38 PM (#143507)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req. Archie Fisher Tunes
From: Yup, I've tried...

.. and the list is sorely lacking in Archie Fisher stuff...

I'd appreciat yer help.. could you maybe email 'em to me?!?!

write2snag@icqmail.com

Thanks Suzanne...

p.s. are you into tea and oranges, by any chance?


02 Dec 99 - 02:06 PM (#143713)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req. Archie Fisher Tunes
From: Just bumpin' it back up....

I do love the way this MB works... if only there was the feature to have it send email to let ya know when someone posts a response to yer thread.... Other boards do it but I guess they also have login procedures...


02 Dec 99 - 05:55 PM (#143807)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req. Archie Fisher Tunes
From: Susanne (skw)

What do I need that feature for? My nightly pleasure before I go to bed is checking the Mudcat ... (and I can do without bawdy comments on this one, please!)

Anyway, being busy on the McCalmnas' lyrics at the moment I'll see what I can do about Archie Fisher in the next couple of weeks. I'll post them here so they get into the DT, but if you insist I'll eMail them to you as well. Would be nice to see you back here, though! - Susanne


03 Dec 99 - 04:07 AM (#144041)
Subject: Oh I'll Be Back!!!
From: Clinton Hammond

It'd just make my life easier if you could email 'em to me...

But Mudcat has far from seen the last of me!! LOL!!

Take that as the threat that I mean it as!! ROTFLMFAO!!

and what's wrong with bawdy comments?!?!?!

If yer on ICQ and would rather just file transfer 'em to me, look me up (and all mudcaters) at #15193917

I'd welcome a few more folkin' friends on ICQ!!;-)


03 Dec 99 - 12:16 PM (#144182)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req. Archie Fisher Tunes
From: Jeri

Bumpy, or Clinton (?) - if you have MSIE, there IS a way to know if anything gets added to this thread. You can add it to your "Favorites" and have it to check for updates. You'll know if something new's added, just not weather it's someone writing "refresh," a smart-arsed comment, or lyrics. You could also trace it on your personal page so you don't have to mess around looking for it when you come back to visit.


03 Dec 99 - 02:29 PM (#144259)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req. Archie Fisher Tunes
From: Clinton Hammond

Thanks Jeri

But I'm a Netscape man.. if for no other reason than to spite Bill Gates The Wanker... LOL!!


06 Dec 99 - 03:44 PM (#145587)
Subject: To Susanne:
From: Still busy are ya?!?

I just keep hoping yer gonna get back to me is all ;-)

To the other mudcaters: Sorry for being such a pain by continually bumping this one back up, but these songs have been my, what's the german word, "ear worm" lately and I think the only way I'm gonna get 'em out is to learn 'em and perform them...


06 Dec 99 - 05:52 PM (#145650)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req. Archie Fisher Tunes
From: Susanne (skw)

Patience, brother! Next weekend I'll be free except for one single pre-Christmas dinner of green cabbage, sweet roast potatoes and pork, and I'm planning to do a little work on Archie Fisher after that. Can you wait that long? - Susanne


07 Dec 99 - 01:41 PM (#146062)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req. Archie Fisher Tunes
From: Clinton hammond

I can wait as long as I have to!! hehehehe

Can I come to the dinner?!?! Sounds good! *puppydog eyes, wet feet, droopy ears*

LOL!! have a good one eh!


07 Dec 99 - 04:44 PM (#146127)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req. Archie Fisher Tunes
From: Susanne (skw)

Clinton, I don't know where you are, but if you could make it to Kiel, Germany, for 6pm on Friday, 10 Dec, I'll see to it that you get a seat! So get your launch rockets ready!!!


07 Dec 99 - 06:28 PM (#146190)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req. Archie Fisher Tunes
From: radriano

I hope everyone will allow me to get something off my chest. It's more along the lines of a pet peeve, actually.

Now I realize that this happens in genres other than folk but here goes: Why do people continually refer to songs as tunes? I think of tunes as melodies, which, granted songs have, but I specifically think of them as instrumental melodies. So an Irish reel, for example, is a tune (no lyrics). An Irish song is a song (has lyrics).

Okay, whew, I feel better now. Until the next time it happens.

I apologize if I ruffled any feathers and I realize that my comments have added nothing to the original idea of this thread but I couldn't help myself.

radriano


07 Dec 99 - 11:31 PM (#146381)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req. Archie Fisher Tunes
From: Clinton Hammond2

From Windsor, Canada to Kiel, Germany eh?!?! That's a long walk and a longer swim.. but don't besurprised if I show up!!! I've never been known to turn down an offer of good food! LOL

Take ye Care Eh!


08 Dec 99 - 10:51 AM (#146542)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req. Archie Fisher Tunes
From: MMario

radriano - I think it may have something to do whether you are based in a vocal or intrumental style....

after all - for an instrumentalist, a tune is a tune and a song is a tune with words attached....but for a vocalist, whose voice IS the instrument...anything you sing is a tune?????

MMario - who took rather a long time to figure out what a tune was versus a song....


03 Jan 00 - 09:30 AM (#157373)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req. Archie Fisher Tunes
From: Clinton Hammond2

Hey Susanne.. Still around?? ;-)

Hope yer holiday was super cool... Sorry I missed that dinner, but like I said.. it's a long swim... hehehehehe

Take Ye Care Eh!


03 Jan 00 - 04:33 PM (#157501)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req. Archie Fisher Tunes
From: Susanne (skw)

Clinton, yes I am, and having a suitably guilty conscience ... - Susanne


03 Jan 00 - 06:20 PM (#157550)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req. Archie Fisher Tunes
From: Sandy Paton

You could simplify things by learning Archie Fisher songs from his Folk-Legacy CD (The Man with a Rhyme). It comes with the complete texts printed in the booklet. Not the same songs, of course, but some good 'uns!

Sandy


03 Jan 00 - 07:48 PM (#157580)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req. Archie Fisher Tunes
From: Clinton Hammond2

Ya I know Sandy... I have the 2 of those ones that I want... Witch and Dark Eyed Molly... It's the Off The Map one that's been "ear-worming" me lately...

Besides, His CD's aren't exactily dropping from the sky here in Windsor, Ontario... More's the pitty really!

;-)

And Susanne, No guilt eh!! That's not what I was trying to do at all... But if ya got 'em I'm gonna keep harping at ya till I gets 'em off ya!! hehehehe

Take Ye Care


06 Jan 00 - 08:40 PM (#159285)
Subject: Lyr Add: THE BOATIE ROWS
From: Susanne (skw)

Clinton, I sent the following to you via email as well, so you ought to get them somehow. I'll try and post some of Archie's own songs in separate threads in the near future (honest!). Oh, and you didn't miss much not getting to that dinner. It wasn't exactly my definition of 'good food'. The after-dinner Bingo was fun, though. - Susanne

THE BOATIE ROWS
(Trad)

Chorus:
The boatie rows, the boatie rows, the boatie rows fu' wheel
And muckle luck attend the boat the marlin and the creel

0 weel may the boatie rows and better may she speed
0 weel may the boatie rows that wins our bairn's bread

I cast my line in Largo Bay and fishes I caught nine
There's three tae boil and three tae fry and three tae bait the line

0 weel may the boatie rows that fills the heavy creel
That feeds and clads our bairn's all and buys us potage meal.

(Roy Palmer, Oxford Book of Sea Songs)

MALLY LEE
(Robert Fergusson)

Chorus:
Oh, we'er a' gaun a' East an' West
We'er gaun aye ajee
Oh, we'er a' gaun a' East an' West
A coortin' Mally Lee

As Mally Lee cam' doon the street her capuchin did flee
She cast a look behind her back to see her negligee

A' doon alang the Canongate were beaux o' ilk degree
And mony an ane turned roond aboot the comely sicht tae see

The lass gae'd through the palace ha', and nane sae braw as she
A prince speired leave tae dance wi' her and earlies twa or three

But Hielan' Brodie fleered them a' wi' prood an' glancin' e'e
He's won for aye the heart an' hand o' bonnie Mally Lee

[1976:] Traditional Edinburgh song, possibly commemorating Mally Sleigh, who married Lord Lyon Brodie in 1725. (Arthur Argo, notes Archie Fisher 'Will Ye Gang, Love')

THE LAIRD O' UDNY'S WA'S
(Trad)

O I'm the laird o' Udny's Wa's
And I've come here wi' richt guid cause
And I've had mair that thirty fa's
Comin' oot owre the plain

O let me in this ae nicht
This ae ae ae nicht
O let me in this ae nicht
And I'll never speir back again

My mother, she does soundly sleep
And my bedroom door does chirrup and cheep
My bedroom door does chirrup and cheep
And I cannae let ye in

So gang ye hame this ae nicht
This ae ae ae nicht
Gang ye hame this ae nicht
And never speir back again

I'll oil your door gin it maun squeak
And it will neither chirrup nor cheep
No it will neither chirrup nor cheep
And I'll get slippin' in

O let me in this ae nicht,
This ae ae ae nicht
O let me in this ae nicht,
And I'll never speir back again

When he's got in he was sae gled
He's taken his bonnet frae off of his head
And he's kissed her on the cheeks sae red
And the auld wife heard the din

O but well she likit that ae nicht
That ae ae ae nicht
O weel she likit that ae nicht
She let her laddie in

When he got in he was sae gled
He's knockit the bottom-boards oot o' the bed
And he stole the lassie's maidenhead
And the auld wife heard the din

O but well she likit that ae nicht
That ae ae ae nicht
O weel she likit that ae nicht
That she let her laddie in

[1995:] Udny is a small village a dozen miles north of Aberdeen, and the song would therefore appear as an entirely local product, except that there are very similar pieces entitled Bonny Portmore, Bonny Yarmouth, Kilkenny, Ury, Paisley, etc. Many of the verses are so called 'floaters' which are found migrating from one song to another. The one beginning 'Over hills and through valleys' is encountered in an English piece of the late 17th century (William Chappell, 'Old English Popular Music'). (Peter Hall, notes 'Folk Songs of North-East Scotland')


13 Nov 18 - 11:22 PM (#3961577)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: songs by Archie Fisher
From: GUEST

Robert Burns is quoted in James Johnson's Scots Musical Museum as saying that the words of The Boatie Rows were written by a John Ewen (ca. 1761-1821) of Aberdeen. The lyrics appear in Volume 5 with three different tunes (pp. 437-439, song nos. 425-427). Here's what Burns wrote in the notes: "The first four bars of the first air, No. 425, are taken from the tune of Weel may the keel row, and the rest from the tune of There’s nae luck about the house.” Burn goes on to state that the second tune “has never become a favourite with those who sing the ballad,” and writes of the third tune: “This fine modern air is the genuine tune of the ballad. Some years ago it was arranged as a glee, for three voices, by William Knyvett of London, and has deservedly become very popular.”

So the song's not entirely by Anon. Trad. after all.


15 Nov 18 - 03:18 AM (#3961717)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: songs by Archie Fisher
From: GUEST,Some bloke

Might be opportune to plug an Archie Fisher concert.

This Friday, 16 November, Archie will be playing Doncaster Roots Club, Ukranian Centre, Doncaster. An added bonus, Pete Davies will be support. Sadly, I’m compere but don’t let that put you off.

Tickets are on the door but if you wish to ensure tickets, (Archie was almost a sellout last time) you can purchase from wegottickets.com. Just search on either him or Doncaster Roots Club.


16 Nov 18 - 05:07 AM (#3961905)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: songs by Archie Fisher
From: GUEST,DTM

Re. Susanne's lyrics for the Boatie Rows.
Though often written and sung as "marlin", the word is actually "murlin". It was a round basket that east-coast fishwives carried on their back.


16 Nov 18 - 05:17 AM (#3961907)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: songs by Archie Fisher
From: GUEST,DTM

In addition to my post above, "fu' wheel" should be "fu' weel". Local dialect for "full well"
I note that spellcheck originally changed my 'weel' to 'wheel' so that may have happened to Susanne's lyrics. Likewise, with 'marlin/murlin'.