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The Rise and Fall of Shanty Festivals

28 Apr 11 - 09:09 AM (#3143989)
Subject: The Rise and Fall of Shanty Festivals
From: GUEST,Skipper Jack

It was heartening to see some new shanty festivals on the 2011 festivals programme.
Unfortunately, some of the old favourites have been scuppered through the lack of financial support.
Such is the case of "Sea Swansea Festival" which was planned for the 13th-14th August 2011.
But there is a faint hope that it will be back next year?

We'd love to have your views on the current situation?

Dave Robinson.


28 Apr 11 - 04:07 PM (#3144276)
Subject: RE: The Rise and Fall of Shanty Festivals
From: Steve Gardham

Eyup,
Hull Shanty Festival has been rescued by enthusiastic locals and they've even managed to get some support from the council and local traders. Good on 'em!


28 Apr 11 - 04:10 PM (#3144279)
Subject: RE: The Rise and Fall of Shanty Festivals
From: GUEST,glueman

Dead keen shanty singers in our house. Even the teenager who hates anything and everything not football related knocks out a fair old shanty.


28 Apr 11 - 05:39 PM (#3144344)
Subject: RE: The Rise and Fall of Shanty Festivals
From: Steve Gardham

Terrace chants and chanties do have something in common in that they both have another purpose other than entertainment. They are both also easily improvised to well-known relatively simple tunes and both very much 'of the people', rather than 'for the people'. Sounds like your lad has his head screwed on right, (or lass as the case may be).


01 May 11 - 12:27 PM (#3145842)
Subject: RE: The Rise and Fall of Shanty Festivals
From: Skipper Jack

In the early days of the Swansea Festival, there was a school shanty group called The "Nipper Jacks" who proved to be a popular attraction for the festival.
Steve,
It's great to hear that Hull Shanty Festival has been rescued!
Here's hoping that the Swansea Festival will have similar success next year?


01 May 11 - 01:38 PM (#3145894)
Subject: RE: The Rise and Fall of Shanty Festivals
From: Paul Davenport

Interesting people, the inhabitants of Hull. They don't like being told what they can and can't do. So they're having a Shanty Festival come what may. What do you expect from the city that told Charles I to bugger off and inadvertantly gave us a working democracy?


02 May 11 - 06:46 AM (#3146319)
Subject: RE: The Rise and Fall of Shanty Festivals
From: Bat Goddess

A number of years ago at the Saturday open sing at the Portsmouth Maritime Folk Festival (Portsmouth, New Hampshire USA), a reporter for a local rag was interviewing me and asked, "Who ARE all these people? How do they know all the words?"

That year the open sing was jam packed with a lot of people NOT in the local folk or sea music community (brought in by our advertising, posters and articles in the paper). Most of them, actually, I'd never seen before. And they were all lustily singing along on the choruses and one group of strangers actually led a Drop Kick Murphys song later in the session.

Basically, I think people enjoy SINGING and there are not many acceptable outlets for singing in public. If you walk down the street singing, people cross the street and don't make eye contact. If you sing at work, co-workers complain. So...you can sing in church...or you can attend a festival singalong, some folk performances or, if you're really lucky, a session (like our 30 year old weekly trad session at The Press Room) where singing along or even leading a song is encouraged.

And as for "knowing all the words" -- shanties (a call and response type work songs), in particular, were created with an easy to sing along with chorus.

Just my four cents (inflation) worth...

Linn


04 May 11 - 10:17 AM (#3147706)
Subject: RE: The Rise and Fall of Shanty Festivals
From: Bat Goddess

Refresh...

(Would rather like to hear anyone's thoughts on what I posted.)

Linn


04 May 11 - 11:46 AM (#3147779)
Subject: RE: The Rise and Fall of Shanty Festivals
From: Sailor Ron

" Lancaster is Dead, long live Ellesmere Port!" After the death, by politians, of Lancaster, Trimrig& a Doxy & Locked up together organised theEaster Ellesmere Port Shanty Festival, It was great!


04 May 11 - 12:50 PM (#3147814)
Subject: RE: The Rise and Fall of Shanty Festivals
From: The Sandman

yes, and dont forget Scarborough Sea Fest, JULY 15 16 17