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End of Hull Sea Fever - 2011

06 Mar 11 - 07:25 PM (#3108494)
Subject: End of Hull Sea Fever
From: GUEST,old git

Have just received an e-mail from Pete Hayselden (Shanty Jack) informing that Hull City Council have "Pulled the plug" on The Hull Maritime Festival (Sea Fever). A sad piece of news!
geoff t


06 Mar 11 - 07:54 PM (#3108517)
Subject: RE: End of Hull Sea Fever
From: Tim Leaning

Buggery !


07 Mar 11 - 04:00 AM (#3108714)
Subject: RE: End of Hull Sea Fever
From: Sailor Ron

First Lancaster, now Hull. Damn all politians & accountants!


07 Mar 11 - 04:04 AM (#3108715)
Subject: RE: End of Hull Sea Fever
From: SylviaN

Shame!


07 Mar 11 - 04:06 AM (#3108717)
Subject: RE: End of Hull Sea Fever
From: GUEST

Very sad news indeed!Hull will very soon forget it was ever a fishing port!


07 Mar 11 - 04:32 AM (#3108731)
Subject: RE: End of Hull Sea Fever
From: Jack Campin

Does it actually need the council's support to continue?


07 Mar 11 - 05:07 AM (#3108753)
Subject: RE: End of Hull Sea Fever
From: GUEST,old git

Yes Jack , if it is to continue on the same size it has grown to over the last 21 years. It is of course mainly a free festival...with only Saturday night's concert for punters to pay for.
Who knows what the future holds.


07 Mar 11 - 05:23 AM (#3108769)
Subject: RE: End of Hull Sea Fever
From: Arthur_itus

This is the email from Pete

Dear Friends.

It is with regret that I have to inform you that after a successful run of 21 years the City Council has reluctantly decided to pull the plug on the Festival. It was not a lightly taken decision and was forced upon them by the budget cuts with which we are all becoming familiar.

At a meeting with the events team a short while ago I was apprised of the possibility of the event being axed. Unfortunately that is now the officially confirmed decision of the council.

I make no secret of my bitter disappointment at this decision but having regard to the realities of the present economic situation, I have to say that it was not totally unexpected. Certainly, in September 1989 none of us could have anticipated a 21 year successful run! You will agree I am sure, that great credit is due to the Hull City Council for supporting and promoting the event up to the present time.

There can be no doubt as to the success of "Sea Fever" over the years and 2010 was as good as any. Rather than suffer a slow death by attrition I am glad we were at a high point when we had to "Take a Break" . I am sure that our audiences will have good memories of the event. That has got to be a good starting point if there is any chance of starting up again in the medium term. I shall keep in close contact with the City, although obviously at this time, they are not able to give any commitment for the future.

We have seen a number of events decline or fail for varying reasons in recent years but if we look for the root cause it no case was it a shortcoming in the event itself.   I had always hoped that Hull would survive longer. I know we had a good product and a loyal audience. However it was not to be.

To close on a more cheerful note, I would encourage you to continue to support the remaining events and particularly commend to you the forthcoming new Easter Shanty Festival at Ellesmere port. Let us all turn out to make it a success.


Best wishes and thanks for your support over the years'

Pete. (Shanty Jack).


P.S. Keep your eyes on these websites for Shanty News.

For all Shanty News - Bitter End Website:    http://www.shanty.co.uk/

For Ellesmere Port Festival:    http://www.shanty.org.uk/


07 Mar 11 - 06:18 AM (#3108803)
Subject: RE: End of Hull Sea Fever
From: GUEST,MC Fat

Sad news indeed. I have some great memories of the early one, including getting barred from the Black Boy. Shanty jack has been a fine servant building up a great festival over the years. It's no substitute but Beverley lass Teggy will be running a Shanty Session on Easter Sunday at the Garners rest as part of the Sheffield Folk Session Festival.


07 Mar 11 - 10:07 AM (#3108919)
Subject: RE: End of Hull Sea Fever
From: 8_Pints

Sad news, but not unexpected!

My gratitude to Pete for promoting the festival over the years.

Hope to see everyone at Ellesmere Port...

Regards,

Bob & Sue


07 Mar 11 - 10:34 AM (#3108931)
Subject: RE: End of Hull Sea Fever
From: Les from Hull

A sad time for Hull and for Shanty Festivals.

But, last year we 'filled in' for our missing Sea Fever Festival by hosting the 'Big Anti-Shanty' in the Minerva on the traditional Hull Shanty Festival of the first weekend in September. It's likely that we will do the same this year.

[Anti Shanty was the term given to the unofficial Saturday night singaround we had during the Sea Fever Festival for people who didn't want to go to the Saturday concert, put preferred a more informal pub session.]


07 Mar 11 - 10:44 AM (#3108941)
Subject: RE: End of Hull Sea Fever
From: Nancy King

Sad news indeed, but 21 years is a pretty damn good run. I for one have very great memories of the 1992 Sea Fever Festival, when I came over with The Boarding Party. We had a wonderful time, hanging out and singing with Shanty Jack, Johnny Collins, Jim Mageean, and so many others. Everyone was just great, and they even paid the performers in cash! (unheard-of in the States).

Personal regards to Pete!

Nancy


07 Mar 11 - 12:27 PM (#3109017)
Subject: RE: End of Hull Sea Fever
From: GUEST,johnjo

Seems a shame that the Sea Shanty festival is to be allowed to die, yet Hull City Council can still find the cash to support what it calls the 'Freedom Festival', to be held in September.

Said FreedomFest will include Hull Marina as a venue.

Les, will the anti-shanty Minerva thingy be on a different weekend to the Freedom Fest?

John


07 Mar 11 - 01:04 PM (#3109035)
Subject: RE: End of Hull Sea Fever
From: Les from Hull

I think they hold the Freedom Festival in July. It celebrates anti-slavery and multi-culuralism so I'm certainly not against it, but it's mostly about over-load pop music. But as such it attracts a lot of people.

I'm sure that it costs a lot more than the shanty festival ever did.


08 Mar 11 - 09:45 AM (#3109609)
Subject: Hull council cancels shantey festival.
From: Gy Morris man

Ull council today anounced that they are not funding the shanty festival this year.
It has been going for twenty plus years, it is another victim of this goverments wish to stop anything that people enjoy.
I can see though that the publicans of ull will most proberbly put on an unoficial festival.
Well the thought of all that beer going unsold will send shivers down thier spines.


08 Mar 11 - 10:45 AM (#3109644)
Subject: RE: End of Hull Sea Fever
From: Les from Hull

Way hey and up she rises!


08 Mar 11 - 02:00 PM (#3109780)
Subject: RE: End of Hull Sea Fever
From: Johnjo

Looks like the Freedom Festival IS in September. No-one would want to denigrate the sentiments behind it, especially given Hull's historic Wilberforce links, but it's still a shame that the 'powers that be' in Hull's Guildhall don't seem to hold the city's maritime traditions in the same high regard.

Which weekend is the anti-shanty Les?


08 Mar 11 - 08:29 PM (#3110053)
Subject: RE: End of Hull Sea Fever
From: Les from Hull

I spoke to Phil and Sue at the Minerva last night. We will be aiming for the first weekend in September, and we reckon on using the Minerva and Heritage pubs and possibly the Fruit venue. Here's what the local paper says. click!

I'd be glad to hear from anyone who fancies this weekend for a free Maritime Festival.


09 Mar 11 - 02:41 AM (#3110152)
Subject: RE: End of Hull Sea Fever
From: Johnjo

i'd be up for it Les, as long as it doesn't clash with the Freedom Festiival.

Some of the comments in the local rag are a mite uncharitable about the Freedom Fest. My 14 year old daughter thought it was great, but I'd avoid it like the plague. Probably just a generational thing, and I'm a grumpy old git.


09 Mar 11 - 04:59 AM (#3110196)
Subject: RE: End of Hull Sea Fever
From: Les from Hull

I'm checking with the Council for the date of the Freedom Festival, John - whatever that is ours will be different! We'd like to be able to hear ourselves sing and play!


09 Mar 11 - 07:11 AM (#3110259)
Subject: RE: End of Hull Sea Fever
From: Barb'ry

What a shame. I echo Bob and Sue's thanks to Shanty Jack for such fantastic work over the last heck of a long time.

Les, we would love to come up for a mini maritime festival

Barbara


09 Mar 11 - 08:50 AM (#3110304)
Subject: RE: End of Hull Sea Fever
From: Les from Hull

I looks like the Freedom Festival is provisionally booked for that first weekend in September. So our weekend will be a different one!

Of course this could all change if the Liberals lose in the May elections. Very popular at the moment, the Liberals!


09 Mar 11 - 11:45 AM (#3110401)
Subject: RE: End of Hull Sea Fever
From: Johnjo

Count me in then Les. Will look forward to it, and will try not to have the car with me.


09 Mar 11 - 01:01 PM (#3110454)
Subject: RE: End of Hull Sea Fever
From: Tyke

Hi Les as I keep pointing out Liable Dosycats came 6th in the recent Barnsley Election. They would have come 7th if Cornel Gadfly was running in the same Election.

But remember don't vote for them even if they promise to run Sea Fever forever.


09 Mar 11 - 01:43 PM (#3110498)
Subject: RE: End of Hull Sea Fever
From: oombanjo

Yet another victim of your "bloody conservative government" Alf!


09 Mar 11 - 10:15 PM (#3110812)
Subject: RE: End of Hull Sea Fever
From: Tyke

Dead right oombanjo Only this time it's the Liable Dosycats digging their own Pits! But sharing falling into them with the Conservatives. Next thing they will come up with is a Sunday Meet and Great with "The Big Sociaty" all getting together to fill in the Pot Holes in the Roads.


09 Mar 11 - 11:43 PM (#3110846)
Subject: RE: End of Hull Sea Fever
From: ossonflags

A bit o' thread creep there Comrades!!

The thing is Sea Fever aint gonna happen this year and possibly next.That is........unless we run something ourselves.

A radical idea I can hear some of you say, but
we have proved we can do it as with The Peoples Voice in Beverley and The two shanty festivals also in Beverley - all very successful,

.Trim Rig are doing something similar in a couple of weeks that we are all supporting and that is the key. We do need to get back to our roots to keep music live.And we can do that without the politicians.

But we cant do it without you.

Me and the very intresting and windswept Mr.Fromull were in deep consultation yesterday on trying to do this very thing.
But we do need you lot out there!! I have already been in touch personally with a lot of you and there is a big interest.

If you would like to support us you are very welcomealso any positive ideas are also welcome.You can pm Les ward or me for any info or just post to this site.

watch this space fo further developements.


10 Mar 11 - 05:31 AM (#3110967)
Subject: RE: End of Hull Sea Fever
From: doc.tom

If you're looking for a maritime festival on the first week of September, now Hull is gone, try SeaIlfracombe (North Devon). Third year and being grown from the bottom up! Lots of local non-shanty maritime involvement (Balmoral, Aldenburg,yacht races, food trails, kayaking, rock-pool rambles, tug-o-war, etc., etc) - so we could do with building up the singing!
Tom


12 Mar 11 - 07:38 AM (#3112239)
Subject: RE: End of Hull Sea Fever
From: GUEST,old git

Count me in for this again..last year was a bit thin on the ground...but this year people have more warning.


12 Mar 11 - 07:41 AM (#3112243)
Subject: RE: End of Hull Sea Fever
From: Les from Hull

Thanks Geoff - I hope that we can let you have the dates as soon as Hull City Council get their act together.


13 Mar 11 - 03:07 AM (#3112788)
Subject: RE: End of Hull Sea Fever
From: GUEST

I dont think we can wait that long Les!!!!


13 Mar 11 - 06:20 AM (#3112822)
Subject: RE: End of Hull Sea Fever
From: stallion

Scarborough Seafest has lost it's funding, Richard Grainger is organising fund raisers but it is sh*t.


13 Mar 11 - 02:22 PM (#3113002)
Subject: RE: End of Hull Sea Fever
From: Les from Hull

We never had any funding! We rely on the kindness of strangers. And of course on friends who enjoy a weekend of good singing!


13 Mar 11 - 03:01 PM (#3113021)
Subject: RE: End of Hull Sea Fever
From: GUEST,cookieless bloke

A good do last year, I'll certainly be popping over that Humber Bridge for a twang and a holler.
Lawrie


13 Mar 11 - 06:42 PM (#3113120)
Subject: RE: End of Hull Sea Fever
From: Steve Gardham

Hi Les et al.
No reason why you shouldn't run something same time as Freedom. I love the Freedom Festival BTW. I thought the last 2 were stunning, The fire thing in 2009 was brilliant and the balloons last year were marvellous.

I have a full PA doing nothing although you probably would need an outdoor PA to run a concert outside Green Bricks. Fruit sounds like a good option. They have run folky gigs successfully recently. Has anybody asked The Deep to get involved?

Has Steve been approached to get some boats up? Spider T and Phyllis are usually up for it, Syntan. I know one year Goole Museum sent Room 58 cos I remember seeing Cyril aboard. Don't remember how it got there though cos it's a lighter barge. If Mal brings Spider and Ian brings Phyllis, might even persuade Chris to bring Southcliffe if he's not gigging elsewhere.

The Lottery people haven't stopped shelling out if you know somebody who enjoys filling in forms. The council have said they won't run it but they have offered support to anyone else putting stuff on. If I'm around then I'll certainly do a spot fer nowt, and drag a few others in.


14 Mar 11 - 03:42 AM (#3113305)
Subject: RE: End of Hull Sea Fever
From: ossonflags

Thanks for that Steve.Thats the kind of positive stuff we always get from you.

We have discussed several formats, but as always how we proceed will depend on support from people like yourself who are prepared to give a bit of their time to help us out.

Of course there will be local elections in May so the political flavour? may change.The very least we shall be doing will be a musical weekend in The Minerva.

Again thanks to all who have expressed an interest and have offered their support...........Keep Music Live!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


14 Mar 11 - 04:59 AM (#3113312)
Subject: RE: End of Hull Sea Fever
From: Les from Hull

The 'problem' with the Freedom Festival is that they put up two rather loud stages near the Minerva. We like to use the old Brewery room on the East side of the pub and to keep the french doors open to interest any passing crowd. Also I'm sure that Phil and Sue at the Minerva are kept reasonably busy with the Freedom Festival crowd.

We hope that local dance teams would dance out at the Pier. An outdoor PA would be very welcome, as long as the weather's OK.

I too welcome the Freedom Festival, though it does rattle my windows a bit. Still no reply from the City Council as to the dates of the Freedom Festival.

If any 'ull folk can think of somewhere we could use as a secure place for camper vans then that would be useful. Perhaps the Deep could help out here. I'll also see if we get a special rate at a nearby hotel like Premier Inn. If any local people have a spare bed they can offer, then we'll attempt to co-ordinate that.

But we can't do anything until the Council settle a date for the Freedom Festival.


14 Mar 11 - 06:38 AM (#3113340)
Subject: RE: End of Hull Sea Fever
From: Sttaw Legend

Hi Les the date is settled for Freedom Festival it is the first weekend in September 2nd 3rd 4th


14 Mar 11 - 07:50 AM (#3113382)
Subject: RE: End of Hull Sea Fever
From: Johnjo

Les, would it be worth asking British Waterways if campervans could use the marina car park, or park in the boatyard? They could make a reasonable charge for overnight parking/access to toilets etc. As the sailing/boating season will still be underway, they should have plenty of space. Perhaps they could offer a special price for anyone bringing a boat for the event as well?


14 Mar 11 - 01:27 PM (#3113593)
Subject: RE: End of Hull Sea Fever
From: Gy Morris man

A labour councillor was interviewed on radio humberside,
and he was berating the coucil for pulling the shanty fest.
As he said the freedom festival costs more in security than the whole subsidy for a bit of shanty singing.
Roll on the may elections.


14 Mar 11 - 02:27 PM (#3113630)
Subject: RE: End of Hull Sea Fever
From: Les from Hull

There will be a Hull Sea Shanty Festival on the weekend of 23/24 July. There should be parking for campervans and we are hoping for a cheapish hotel deal. Sadly no camping. There'll be a singaround, concerts and most of the attractions of the previous Hull Shanty festivals but on a somewhat cut-down basis.

Inquiries from artists, dance teams, maritime stalls could come here initially. Be warned though, there's not a lot of money available.

Thanks everyone!


14 Mar 11 - 04:57 PM (#3113726)
Subject: RE: End of Hull Sea Fever
From: GUEST

Well it doesn't clash with Warwick so its looking good for those Hissyfit gals!


14 Mar 11 - 04:58 PM (#3113727)
Subject: RE: End of Hull Sea Fever
From: GUEST,Linda Kelly

sorry that was me-over excited!


14 Mar 11 - 05:21 PM (#3113744)
Subject: RE: End of Hull Sea Fever
From: Sir Roger de Beverley

Well, I know at least three sea songs (if you include "shiver me timbers" by Tom Waits)and I don't charge much :-)

Rog


14 Mar 11 - 06:45 PM (#3113780)
Subject: RE: End of Hull Sea Fever
From: Paul Davenport

Liz and I are free Les if you've got a space.


14 Mar 11 - 07:35 PM (#3113805)
Subject: RE: End of Hull Sea Fever
From: Johnjo

Great news Les. I'll be there.


15 Mar 11 - 06:39 AM (#3114017)
Subject: RE: End of Hull Sea Fever
From: GUEST,old git

Need to check with the others to see if the Roaring Forties will all be available,but I certainly will...to perform, MC or whatever else is needed
geoff t


15 Mar 11 - 07:50 AM (#3114060)
Subject: RE: End of Hull Sea Fever
From: Les from Hull

Excellent response chaps and chapesses. No doubt that nice Mr Flags will be in touch when he's shaken off his current bout of lurgi. Looks like being a good 'un.


15 Mar 11 - 08:41 AM (#3114085)
Subject: RE: End of Hull Sea Fever
From: Johnjo

Mr Flags? Lurgi?

Does that mean the Hull EGMWBDC (FS) is off? My van's having it's MOT tomorrow, so I was thinking of hopping on the train for a visit to the Black Boy.


15 Mar 11 - 11:49 AM (#3114211)
Subject: RE: End of Hull Sea Fever
From: Les from Hull

I can go but Mick wouldn't be there anyway 'cos he would have been on the barricades. See you tomorrow!

Les


15 Mar 11 - 02:03 PM (#3114316)
Subject: RE: End of Hull Sea Fever
From: Johnjo

Will try & make it Les. Arrangements for the MOT have gone a bit wonky, but hopefully it'll all work out.


15 Mar 11 - 02:15 PM (#3114323)
Subject: RE: End of Hull Sea Fever
From: mally

Great news Les. I can't believe it was only last Tueday I was in a very quiet Minerva talking to Phil about this. I'll have to learn some new shanties now.

      Mally


15 Mar 11 - 04:54 PM (#3114430)
Subject: RE: End of Hull Sea Fever
From: Steve Gardham

23-24 July is out for me. Eldest lad's wedding, but September should be okay.


16 Mar 11 - 03:38 AM (#3114754)
Subject: RE: End of Hull Sea Fever
From: Les from Hull

Sorry Steve we've had to settle on July 'cos of the venues who are providing funding (Minerva, Ruscadors and Fruit). You'll be missed (unless you can have the reception in the Old Town!).


16 Mar 11 - 06:12 AM (#3114823)
Subject: RE: End of Hull Sea Fever
From: Les from Hull

We can also accommodate a big musicians session in the boat room at the Minerva
throughout the weekend (the room we use on the monthly Tuesday session and used at last year's Big Anti-Shanty). It's a great room for a session in a noted heritage pub with a good range of real ales.


16 Mar 11 - 12:11 PM (#3115026)
Subject: RE: End of Hull Sea Fever
From: ossonflags

Since we have a efinate green light on't festival time to start a new thread methinks.


17 Mar 11 - 05:04 AM (#3115507)
Subject: RE: End of Hull Sea Fever
From: Sir Roger de Beverley

Why not name it after that Ian McNabb song that I do "Still Got the Fever"?

Rog


17 Mar 11 - 05:24 AM (#3115517)
Subject: RE: End of Hull Sea Fever
From: ossonflags

No Rog, it has been agreed that we go with The Hull Shanty festival, see new thread


17 Mar 11 - 05:50 AM (#3115539)
Subject: RE: End of Hull Sea Fever
From: Geoff the Duck

Can't find a new thread.
Has anyone started it yet?
If so can you give a link?
Ta!
Quack!
Geoff.


17 Mar 11 - 05:58 AM (#3115542)
Subject: RE: End of Hull Sea Fever
From: ossonflags

Yes Geoff, 'tis called Hull shanty festival 2011


17 Mar 11 - 06:18 AM (#3115559)
Subject: RE: End of Hull Sea Fever
From: Geoff the Duck

That'll be this (Hull Shanty Festival 23rd 24th July 2011 ) thread then?
Quack!
Geoff.


17 Mar 11 - 08:25 AM (#3115627)
Subject: RE: End of Hull Sea Fever
From: GUEST,ossonflags wivout cookie

Yes