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BS: Canadian Beer

Raptor 11 Oct 06 - 02:06 PM
Clinton Hammond 11 Oct 06 - 01:50 PM
Dave Swan 11 Oct 06 - 01:23 PM
Bill D 10 Oct 06 - 07:00 PM
closet-folkie 10 Oct 06 - 01:32 PM
Clinton Hammond 10 Oct 06 - 12:11 PM
closet-folkie 10 Oct 06 - 10:29 AM
Dave (the ancient mariner) 09 Oct 06 - 05:43 PM
WFDU - Ron Olesko 09 Oct 06 - 05:28 PM
WFDU - Ron Olesko 09 Oct 06 - 05:19 PM
Big Mick 09 Oct 06 - 05:15 PM
Bill D 09 Oct 06 - 05:13 PM
Clinton Hammond 09 Oct 06 - 04:49 PM
GUEST,thurg 09 Oct 06 - 04:32 PM
GUEST,Sandy (lost cookie) 09 Oct 06 - 04:32 PM
WFDU - Ron Olesko 09 Oct 06 - 04:28 PM
Clinton Hammond 09 Oct 06 - 04:17 PM
WFDU - Ron Olesko 09 Oct 06 - 04:05 PM
Clinton Hammond 09 Oct 06 - 04:01 PM
WFDU - Ron Olesko 09 Oct 06 - 03:46 PM
Sandy Mc Lean 09 Oct 06 - 03:37 PM
Bill D 09 Oct 06 - 03:01 PM
Clinton Hammond 09 Oct 06 - 02:49 PM
closet-folkie 09 Oct 06 - 02:38 PM
Clinton Hammond 09 Oct 06 - 01:16 PM
GUEST,Cats 09 Oct 06 - 04:46 AM
Clinton Hammond 08 Oct 06 - 02:18 PM
GUEST,Lexie Luther 08 Oct 06 - 01:20 PM
Clinton Hammond 08 Oct 06 - 12:15 PM
GUEST,Lexie Luther 08 Oct 06 - 11:54 AM
Clinton Hammond 08 Oct 06 - 10:54 AM
GUEST,Lexie Luther 07 Oct 06 - 09:57 PM
Clinton Hammond 07 Oct 06 - 05:48 PM
gnu 07 Oct 06 - 05:11 PM
Clinton Hammond 07 Oct 06 - 03:33 PM
Beer 07 Oct 06 - 03:28 PM
GUEST,Lexie Luther 07 Oct 06 - 03:15 PM
Clinton Hammond 07 Oct 06 - 02:24 PM
Cool Beans 07 Oct 06 - 02:10 PM
Beer 07 Oct 06 - 07:44 AM
gnu 07 Oct 06 - 06:45 AM
Clinton Hammond 06 Oct 06 - 05:48 PM
Big Mick 06 Oct 06 - 05:28 PM
Clinton Hammond 06 Oct 06 - 05:18 PM
ToulouseCruise 06 Oct 06 - 04:57 PM
ositojuanito 06 Oct 06 - 12:10 PM
closet-folkie 06 Oct 06 - 09:16 AM
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Subject: RE: BS: Canadian Beer
From: Raptor
Date: 11 Oct 06 - 02:06 PM

I'll Raise a mug of Brador to "The Fart on the Hill"!

Raptor


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Subject: RE: BS: Canadian Beer
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 11 Oct 06 - 01:50 PM

"doing so without the proper disclaimers being noted will likely get you called for carelessness.."

Only by pedantic busy-bodies.... And I dismiss them like the worthless piles of dung they are.


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Subject: RE: BS: Canadian Beer
From: Dave Swan
Date: 11 Oct 06 - 01:23 PM

A couple of years ago I took a course in practical brewing science at the University of California at Davis. One of the field trips was to the Bud brewery in Fairfield. We were treated to Bud's experimental batches which were meant to mimic Sierra Nevada Pale and Murphy's stout. They were outstanding beers which I'd be happy to drink any time. Bud (which makes about 25% of the beer sold world-wide) buys fine ingredients, including fresh hops which are properly stored, and uses them to make the beer they have educated the public to drink. I don't care for the taste of their success and I wish they'd get on with producing the excellent brews of which they are capable.

D


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Subject: RE: BS: Canadian Beer
From: Bill D
Date: 10 Oct 06 - 07:00 PM

Yes, I really, really like Chimay! I had a fresh bottle of the BLUE label one night..(the large bottle with the cork)....that was about as nice a potable as one could wish for. I have also had Orval Ale from Belgium that was so complex I was ready to join the monastery.

But those are EXPENSIVE...

btw, Clinton..
"It is IMPOSSIBLE to speak generally without generalizations...",
.... why, indeed, sir, that is true! And it is also true that doing so without the proper disclaimers being noted will likely get you called for carelessness....as you have seen. Pray, do not be surprised if you receive regular corrections when you stray from easily comprehensible locutions!

Thank you for your rapt attention...


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Subject: RE: BS: Canadian Beer
From: closet-folkie
Date: 10 Oct 06 - 01:32 PM

Chimay is a favourite of mine. I must admit that I find it curious that you would denigrate a beer (Maudite) that can hold its own with many such Trappist-style ales.
Guinness is close to genius though; I'll give you that.


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Subject: RE: BS: Canadian Beer
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 10 Oct 06 - 12:11 PM

"**WHICH** American beer? "
Your mass produced 'standards'.... d'uh.... same as everywhere else... So you and Mick can unknot each other panties... Nobody is 'attacking' your precious USA....

" What IS it with these generalizations"
It is IMPOSSIBLE to speak generally without generalizations.... Try not to be a "BigMick" kind of suck by taking them personally. Cause they aren't personal at all.... It's a generalization... and that's not a bad thing at all.... as long as you understand it.

" Clinton, I wonder if you might recommend some quality beers."
Nope.... I'm 98% a Guinness drinker.... Though I have had more than a few Chimay products that have been very nice...


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Subject: RE: BS: Canadian Beer
From: closet-folkie
Date: 10 Oct 06 - 10:29 AM

American beer definitely gets a bad rap, and it's a shame. There are some fantastic breweries in this country, but the mass-produced gnat's piss masquerading as beer that Anheuser Busch relentlessy markets to the masses, damages the reputation somewhat. I had the attitude myself when I came to these shores from England back in the 80s, but years of sampling fine brews from all over the country have all but cured me of my beer snobbery.
Ron, I'm an ale man myself (especially the Belgian Abbey Ales), but I'm with you on some of the wheat beers. I'm quite partial to Erdhinger and Franziskaner when the ocassion presents itself.
Clinton, I wonder if you might recommend some quality beers. If you consider Maudite to be garbage, then you must really have some gems up the old sleeve. Care to share?
Cheers to all, Steve R.


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Subject: RE: BS: Canadian Beer
From: Dave (the ancient mariner)
Date: 09 Oct 06 - 05:43 PM

BARLEY....mmmmm

"This is grain, which any fool can eat, but for which the Lord intended a more divine means of consumption… Beer!"

— Friar Tuck, in the film Robin Hood, Prince of Thieves


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Subject: RE: BS: Canadian Beer
From: WFDU - Ron Olesko
Date: 09 Oct 06 - 05:28 PM

Bill D, the problem is that the U.S. beers that most people around the globe are familiar with are the large brewers. It is rare that brews like Anchor Steam, Riverhorse, Stoudts, Allagash, Ommegang or Smuttynose (to name a few of my favorites) are sampled outside of the country. Even Samuel Adams is not that well known beyond our shores.

American beer has more variety than any other country in the world. We brew more diverse styles than any other country. That is a fact. Our beers win countless awards around the globe, but unfortunately we are usually thought of by three letters - B U D. It is a shame that people do have the opportunity to sample something that is truly unique about American.

Beer - it's not just for breakfast anymore.


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Subject: RE: BS: Canadian Beer
From: WFDU - Ron Olesko
Date: 09 Oct 06 - 05:19 PM

"Barley is the grain normally used for beer "

It still is.   There are other adjuncts to beer making, such as wheat and rice, but those are primarily flavoring agents - not for alcohol.

Alcohol is produced by the fermentable sugars in the beer. You could fill it up with table sugar, and while you might get higher alcohol you would also get a terrible tasting drink.

By the way, wheat beer is an exceptional style. There are some lovely German wheat beers that I highly recommend.

This discussion has got me itching to do another batch of home brew!


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Subject: RE: BS: Canadian Beer
From: Big Mick
Date: 09 Oct 06 - 05:15 PM

Yep, Bill. It's the old "attack all things US" syndrome that we get a lot of.

Mick


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Subject: RE: BS: Canadian Beer
From: Bill D
Date: 09 Oct 06 - 05:13 PM

"Then why does American beer taste like coolaid without the sugar?"

geeze! **WHICH** American beer? What IS it with these generalizations and mindless parroting of the old notion of American beer as swill?

Yeah, I can go down and buy cheap American beer that is no better than horse piss...but I can also find an amazing variety of GOOD ones! It's been 20 years since it was HARD to find good beer here!

I think some folks just want to keep believing the old myths.


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Subject: RE: BS: Canadian Beer
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 09 Oct 06 - 04:49 PM

"the Moosehead of today is not the Moosehead our mothers nursed us on"

Nothing is what it was.....


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Subject: RE: BS: Canadian Beer
From: GUEST,thurg
Date: 09 Oct 06 - 04:32 PM

My understanding is that the Moosehead of today is not the Moosehead our mothers nursed us on. It's all fuzzy now, but something about a buy-out or re-organization that preceded the big export to the rest of the country and to the States. The at-that-time-new label was and remains cool, though.

Like Sandy, I was at first elated then sorely disappointed when I first came across that Moosehead export.

Maritime beer used to have, like Maritime tea, a distinctive flavour. That doesn't seem so apparent anymore, I don't think, what with all the buy-outs, take-overs, micro-breweries, etc.


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Subject: RE: BS: Canadian Beer
From: GUEST,Sandy (lost cookie)
Date: 09 Oct 06 - 04:32 PM

Barley is the grain normally used for beer but I think some of the big American brewers use wheat. I think that it is much weaker and in light form weaker still. However if you pay someone like Dale Earnheard Jr. to promote it you can sell just about anything.


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Subject: RE: BS: Canadian Beer
From: WFDU - Ron Olesko
Date: 09 Oct 06 - 04:28 PM

I think a lot of it is psychological.   I know many people who swear that Guinness is too strong for them - when actually the content is lower than "regular" beer, about 3.5 by U.S. standards.   There is a psychological idea that heavy and darker beers are somehow stronger, but that is not necessarily the case.

The reason most people drink a lot of Bud is because the taste is so light that it becomes easy to drink a lot, where a heavier beer takes longer to drink and you become full faster. That doesn't translate to more of buzz though.


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Subject: RE: BS: Canadian Beer
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 09 Oct 06 - 04:17 PM

I donno Ron... I can drink a HELL of a lot of Bud and not catch a 3rd of the buzz I'd get off the same amount of Canadian mass produced swill....


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Subject: RE: BS: Canadian Beer
From: WFDU - Ron Olesko
Date: 09 Oct 06 - 04:05 PM

It tastes that way because our commercial brewers have not figured out what to do with hops.

I agree with you Clinton, if I had a choice between a Canadian beer or Bud (or any other mass produced American swill), there is no question - I'm going with Canadian. Canadian microbrewers produce some of the best beer in the world.

Alcohol strength has nothing to do with taste. The 5.5% is essentially the same as Bud. The taste comes in the use of hops and grain.


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Subject: RE: BS: Canadian Beer
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 09 Oct 06 - 04:01 PM

Then why does American beer taste like coolaid without the sugar?

:-P
Heh


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Subject: RE: BS: Canadian Beer
From: WFDU - Ron Olesko
Date: 09 Oct 06 - 03:46 PM

"5.5% is 'standard' beer strength in Canada.... "

Which is the same as 4% beer in the U.S.   Canada measures beer by volume and the U.S. measures by weight.   They are the same.


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Subject: RE: BS: Canadian Beer
From: Sandy Mc Lean
Date: 09 Oct 06 - 03:37 PM

I like both Moosehead and Keiths, However a few years ago I was travelling in the USA. On entry I bought a flat (24 cans) of Keiths at the duty free in Woodstock. That lasted me about a week before it was gone. I then went to a store looking to buy some suds. I have little use for the big American brands but in the cooler I found, to my delight, a six pack of bottled Moosehead. Sad to say that when I opened the bottle it was as weak and watered down as Bud. It said on the label that it was brewed in Saint John but it certainly wasn't the same. It had no indication of its strenth, but I would guess less than 4%. I felt ripped off. I have since learned that if you buy what is called malt liquor you get a much better product.


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Subject: RE: BS: Canadian Beer
From: Bill D
Date: 09 Oct 06 - 03:01 PM

Lots of praise for Moosehead here....funny, I never found it all that appealing. Maybe I need to try it again. What I DO like..(mentioned in other threads) is Creemore Springs. Excellent stuff!


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Subject: RE: BS: Canadian Beer
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 09 Oct 06 - 02:49 PM

8% or more IIRC.... Arrogant Bastard is 11% I think... It's been a long time since I had to suffer either


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Subject: RE: BS: Canadian Beer
From: closet-folkie
Date: 09 Oct 06 - 02:38 PM

Isn't that swill, Maudite, around 8%?


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Subject: RE: BS: Canadian Beer
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 09 Oct 06 - 01:16 PM

5.5% is 'standard' beer strength in Canada....


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Subject: RE: BS: Canadian Beer
From: GUEST,Cats
Date: 09 Oct 06 - 04:46 AM

A couple of years ago we were in Vancouver and found a very good micro brewery with its own pub. Being lunchtime we dropped in and started sampling the beers. After one or two we asked the waitress what strength they were. Standard strength, she replied. Being visitors we asked her to explain. Minimum 5.5% was the reply. No wonder Vancouver looked a bit fuzzy round the edges in the afternoon! Wonderful beer though!


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Subject: RE: BS: Canadian Beer
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 08 Oct 06 - 02:18 PM

You WISH you had HALF the love I got man....


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Subject: RE: BS: Canadian Beer
From: GUEST,Lexie Luther
Date: 08 Oct 06 - 01:20 PM

I know that you said "fort" but that was probably a typo. Perhaps this song will clarify it:

King of the Mountain

(Written By: Paul Nelson/Larry Boone)

I gave her that diamond she dreamed of
And I bought her a home with a view
I took her to the end of the rainbow
But all I left her was blue

Seems I never had time to love her
And now it seems time just stands still
I thought I was king of the mountain
But I was only a fool on the hill

Chorus:
Now I'm here alone after leaving her lonely
Lord I'm living with a memory
I know I can't kill
I thought I was king of the mountain
But I was only a fool on the hill


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Subject: RE: BS: Canadian Beer
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 08 Oct 06 - 12:15 PM

Actually Clinton means "The Fort On The Hill"

Hammond means, funnily enough, "The Fort On The Hill"

So I am doubly unassailable, especially by a lack-wit like yourself 'guest'


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Subject: RE: BS: Canadian Beer
From: GUEST,Lexie Luther
Date: 08 Oct 06 - 11:54 AM

Clinton Hammond ain't his real name either:
   Clinton? Called after Blow Job Bill.
   Hammond? From Arabic meaning camel dung.


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Subject: RE: BS: Canadian Beer
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 08 Oct 06 - 10:54 AM

Yaaawn....

Ya think you're a big man? Show that pussy you call a face.


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Subject: RE: BS: Canadian Beer
From: GUEST,Lexie Luther
Date: 07 Oct 06 - 09:57 PM

gnu, you give CH too much credit. He got a brain made of pigswill and an anus for a mouth. Big Mick's only mistake is troll feeding this egotistical moron.


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Subject: RE: BS: Canadian Beer
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 07 Oct 06 - 05:48 PM

I could... but it wan't worth putting much effort into.....

It's just a BS thread about beer... and Mick is little more a troll....

So I gave what I thought it was worth


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Subject: RE: BS: Canadian Beer
From: gnu
Date: 07 Oct 06 - 05:11 PM

Well, CH... that's the kind of flies your shit attracts. Seriously... the moose comment? You can do better than that... I hope.


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Subject: RE: BS: Canadian Beer
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 07 Oct 06 - 03:33 PM

Another cowardly 'guest'.... big surprise.....


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Subject: RE: BS: Canadian Beer
From: Beer
Date: 07 Oct 06 - 03:28 PM

Back then, beer was more important then gas prices. That would have been 1971 so I guess the gas was not to expensive. Today I would lean toward Keith's instead of the Moose.


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Subject: RE: BS: Canadian Beer
From: GUEST,Lexie Luther
Date: 07 Oct 06 - 03:15 PM

A riddle for ya:
What's the difference between Clinton Hammond and a hemorrhoid on a dog's arse?
Answer:
Others of the same species show interest in the hemorrhoid.


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Subject: RE: BS: Canadian Beer
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 07 Oct 06 - 02:24 PM

further than you would drinking it....


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Subject: RE: BS: Canadian Beer
From: Cool Beans
Date: 07 Oct 06 - 02:10 PM

How many mile to the gallon didja get, fillin' up the station wagon with Moosehead an' all that?


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Subject: RE: BS: Canadian Beer
From: Beer
Date: 07 Oct 06 - 07:44 AM

A little story that happened to stupid me (us). 35 years ago last Monday, the good wife and I were returning from N.S. to Quebec. I decided to fill up the station wagon with Maritime beer. So I gets Moosehead, Ten Penny, and Olands.
   Decided to go through the States as a short cut. Got to the border up this way and was asked what the hell was I doing trans[porting alcohol from one country into another. Long story short the border guard let us pass with all my beer. As I recall I had 8-10 cases of 24. I think it was the just married sign still on the hood of the car that did it.


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Subject: RE: BS: Canadian Beer
From: gnu
Date: 07 Oct 06 - 06:45 AM

Mighty proud, indeed.

Pedantic, egotistical, little, squirt-stain. ??? Odd way to sign off a post. I don't find you pedantic. You are much too hard-on, yourself.


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Subject: RE: BS: Canadian Beer
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 06 Oct 06 - 05:48 PM

Ya but you also like sucking off moose...

Pedantic, egotistical, little, squirt-stain.


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Subject: RE: BS: Canadian Beer
From: Big Mick
Date: 06 Oct 06 - 05:28 PM

Learn a new term, did ya, clint boy? You have used "passive aggressive" in several threads and a couple of different contexts, now. Good lad, I am sure your ma is proud.

But I still think that you meant to say that "in your opinion" the stuff isn't very good. Otherwise what your statement is a gratuitous assertion. Look that one up. That way you can throw that one around too. Should be good for a couple of admiring glances from mom. I am sure she is very proud of how well you learned manners and how to talk to people.

And I still think Moosehead is a great beer.

Mick


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Subject: RE: BS: Canadian Beer
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 06 Oct 06 - 05:18 PM

Screw off, Mick, go help yourself to half a clue... I meant to say exactly what I said... Not everybody is a passive-aggressive, wet-blouse like you are.

"Maudite" & "Fin Du Mond"
If that's the kind of skite that flips your switch, get a few bottles of Arrogant Bastard Ale.... It's the same kinda swill...

www.arrogantbastard.com


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Subject: RE: BS: Canadian Beer
From: ToulouseCruise
Date: 06 Oct 06 - 04:57 PM

Garrison's Brewery was mentioned... for something very very interesting, give their Jalepeno beer a try... gots a mighty kick to it (very good for marinading/cooking)

Oh, and one more thing... isn't the line supposed to be

"I'm a drunk old man singin' on the stage here,
Would someone buy me a f***in' beer?!?"


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Subject: RE: BS: Canadian Beer
From: ositojuanito
Date: 06 Oct 06 - 12:10 PM

I was in Northern Ontario this winter and I thought that Northern was the best ale

John


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Subject: RE: BS: Canadian Beer
From: closet-folkie
Date: 06 Oct 06 - 09:16 AM

By the way, if anyone has any Maudite languishing in their trashcan, would you mind sending it my way? I'm sick of paying $3.50 for each bottle I buy. Of course, "Fin Du Mond" would work in an emergency.
PS. Frosty mug? Sacrilege.


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Subject: RE: BS: Canadian Beer
From: Sandy Mc Lean
Date: 05 Oct 06 - 10:26 PM

The Lower Deck no doubt. Dropped a few jars there myself.


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Subject: RE: BS: Canadian Beer
From: Dave (the ancient mariner)
Date: 05 Oct 06 - 07:25 PM

The last barrel drank at Privateers (pub in the old port of Halifax)


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Subject: RE: BS: Canadian Beer
From: Cool Beans
Date: 05 Oct 06 - 05:53 PM

Now I'm a broken man on a Halifax beer?


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