mudcat.org: BS: Bye Bye Abu Musab al-Zarqawi
Lyrics & Knowledge Personal Pages Record Shop Auction Links Radio & Media Kids Membership Help
The Mudcat Cafeawe

Post to this Thread - Printer Friendly - Home
Page: [1] [2] [3] [4]


BS: Bye Bye Abu Musab al-Zarqawi

McGrath of Harlow 10 Jun 06 - 05:17 PM
Peace 10 Jun 06 - 03:46 PM
Lepus Rex 10 Jun 06 - 03:43 PM
Dave (the ancient mariner) 10 Jun 06 - 03:17 PM
Big Mick 10 Jun 06 - 03:14 PM
Lepus Rex 10 Jun 06 - 03:07 PM
Peace 10 Jun 06 - 03:01 PM
DougR 10 Jun 06 - 02:58 PM
number 6 10 Jun 06 - 02:55 PM
Lepus Rex 10 Jun 06 - 02:51 PM
GUEST,Foxy 10 Jun 06 - 02:40 PM
DougR 10 Jun 06 - 01:56 PM
number 6 10 Jun 06 - 01:54 PM
dianavan 10 Jun 06 - 12:11 PM
GUEST,Foxy 10 Jun 06 - 11:58 AM
Dave (the ancient mariner) 10 Jun 06 - 11:41 AM
GUEST 10 Jun 06 - 09:17 AM
Lepus Rex 10 Jun 06 - 08:31 AM
dianavan 10 Jun 06 - 03:20 AM
GUEST,sorefingers 10 Jun 06 - 12:54 AM
Greg F. 09 Jun 06 - 09:52 PM
Peace 09 Jun 06 - 09:50 PM
GUEST 09 Jun 06 - 09:47 PM
Peace 09 Jun 06 - 09:31 PM
McGrath of Harlow 09 Jun 06 - 09:29 PM
robomatic 09 Jun 06 - 09:21 PM
GUEST,Stan 09 Jun 06 - 09:02 PM
DougR 09 Jun 06 - 08:37 PM
dianavan 09 Jun 06 - 08:23 PM
Peace 09 Jun 06 - 07:49 PM
Teribus 09 Jun 06 - 07:48 PM
robomatic 09 Jun 06 - 07:02 PM
GUEST 09 Jun 06 - 05:53 PM
GUEST,mg 09 Jun 06 - 05:41 PM
CarolC 09 Jun 06 - 05:40 PM
GUEST 09 Jun 06 - 05:13 PM
MarkS 09 Jun 06 - 04:43 PM
Dave (the ancient mariner) 09 Jun 06 - 04:38 PM
CarolC 09 Jun 06 - 04:29 PM
Dave (the ancient mariner) 09 Jun 06 - 04:25 PM
Peace 09 Jun 06 - 04:19 PM
Dave (the ancient mariner) 09 Jun 06 - 04:15 PM
number 6 09 Jun 06 - 04:02 PM
Rapparee 09 Jun 06 - 03:59 PM
Peace 09 Jun 06 - 03:24 PM
Richard Bridge 09 Jun 06 - 03:10 PM
Rapparee 09 Jun 06 - 01:55 PM
GUEST,sick of hypocrites 09 Jun 06 - 01:51 PM
Peace 09 Jun 06 - 12:43 PM
Dave (the ancient mariner) 09 Jun 06 - 12:42 PM
Lyrics & Knowledge Search [Advanced]
DT  Forum
Sort (Forum) by:relevance date
DT Lyrics:






Subject: RE: BS: Bye Bye Abu Musab al-Zarqawi
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 10 Jun 06 - 05:17 PM

You might well be right about that Doug - or it might have been intendeed as ambiguous. But I would imagine that for most Americans "us" and "US" would mean much the same anyway.
.................

As for Dave's assertion about how no one is celebrating and rejoicing at this death, well, that certainly doesn't square with the way it's been covered in some of the British tabloid papers.

There really isn't that much difference between the way people respond to violent death in different parts of the world. Even when it comes to suicide bombings and such - there've been any number of war films with people choosing to die so as to take more of the enemy with them, and this being seen as heroic and admirable.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Bye Bye Abu Musab al-Zarqawi
From: Peace
Date: 10 Jun 06 - 03:46 PM

You two guys: You are both good people. Go to your respective corners, take a deep breath and then shake hands. Otherwise I won't tell you the answer to the following: What's the difference between a bag of 629 used condoms and an old tire on the side of the road?


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Bye Bye Abu Musab al-Zarqawi
From: Lepus Rex
Date: 10 Jun 06 - 03:43 PM

Hmm? Oh, I already covered the "it's just a joke!" defense, Dave. I'm not really interested in your "humour," anyways, just the sentiments behind it. And the joke... Even for a racist joke, it's not very good. Too much set-up, and the punch line is just a lame-ass pun. You could always repeat your almost-as-unfunny "72 Viriginians" knee-slapper for the four-hundreth time. Seriously, it never gets old.

---Lepus Rex


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Bye Bye Abu Musab al-Zarqawi
From: Dave (the ancient mariner)
Date: 10 Jun 06 - 03:17 PM

Guess you don't have a sense of humour either Lepus?


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Bye Bye Abu Musab al-Zarqawi
From: Big Mick
Date: 10 Jun 06 - 03:14 PM

As usual both sides here miss the point. There can never be joy in killing. There can never be celebration of a death. I am just as saddened by those who are unhappy about this man's death as I am by those that are happy. If this cruel bastards death is to be celebrated, then would it be justifiable for the Iraqi's to drop a 500 pound bomb on the brig that holds the Marines who it appears killed innocents with intent are in?

I am completely disgusted by a man who would cut off another person's head. I am just as disgusted by a man who would take an M16 and kill unarmed civilians. I am even more disgusted by a man who makes war on a false pretense, unleashes bombs on innocent civilians on the basis of a lie, and continues to try and justify the deaths of our young ones and their young ones on the basis of some phoney justification and poll numbers.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Bye Bye Abu Musab al-Zarqawi
From: Lepus Rex
Date: 10 Jun 06 - 03:07 PM

Wow, you're one sick, sadistic dude, Doug! Have you thought of trading that mint-green polyester jumpsuit for military fatigues? I mean, they're totally desperate right now, and you've got that "Abu Ghraib" spirit!

---Lepus Rex


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Bye Bye Abu Musab al-Zarqawi
From: Peace
Date: 10 Jun 06 - 03:01 PM

Both side of what story, Doug?


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Bye Bye Abu Musab al-Zarqawi
From: DougR
Date: 10 Jun 06 - 02:58 PM

Guest Foxy: no point in Canadians being exposed to both sides of the story, right? Fox News is the only channel I know of that offers both conservative and liberal points of view to be aired.

Incidentially, I truly hope that Zarqawi was concious enough to realize that U. S. Special Forces and Iriqi police were his captors before he died, and I hope he died a very painful death. Too bad he couldn't have suffered a bit longer before entering the gates of hell.

DougR


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Bye Bye Abu Musab al-Zarqawi
From: number 6
Date: 10 Jun 06 - 02:55 PM

OH o.k .... then what is this?

crtc approves Fox back in 2004

I also see it available on my Cable listing.

sIx


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Bye Bye Abu Musab al-Zarqawi
From: Lepus Rex
Date: 10 Jun 06 - 02:51 PM

Dave: Oh, OK. So, you fair-minded non racist, you, when you're talking about this "WE," who you claim are "any human beings of any race and belief," you're not excluding "the Arabs?" Because, and maybe I'm nuts, but when you wrote: "Unlike the Arabs who celebrated 9-11 by dancing in the streets; WE do not celebrate any death," it seemed to me like you're saying two things: 1. "The Arabs" are seperate from "us," and 2. "WE" are morally and culturally superior to "them." Then, you followed that up with: "I am however anti any culture that preaches the type of murderous actions of 9-11 are justifiable or worthy of celebration." In other words, as you claim that "they" were dancing in the streets, it's the culture of "the Arabs" that you oppose, right? Racist.

This impression becomes clearer when one takes into account your recent posting history. Yanno, stuff like this: "We have been informed that the Islamic terrorists do not like to be called 'Towel Heads' since the item they wear on their heads is actually a small folded sheet. Therefore, from this point forward, please refer to them as 'little sheet heads.'" Oh, sure, you can say "I was only talking about the terrorists!" Because we're always hearing them complaining about which racist terms they like or dislike, right? Bullshit. The only people who've complained about being called "towel heads," "rag heads," "sand niggers," "dune coons," etc., are those people (mainly Muslim, Hindu and Sikh) who've been targeted with such racist slurs here in the West. Or maybe it'll be: "But it was just a joke!" Whatever, dude. Tell that to the family of Balbir Singh Sodhi, whose killer expressed a desire to "go out and shoot some towel heads" before the murder. Hilarious.

And then we have this, and, yeah, all emphasis mine: "Tolerance and Cultural differences aside, these Muslims would do well to remember that in our culture we use dark humour and do not supress freedom of speech. But according to them we are infidels and not worthy of life liberty and the pursuit of happiness. Oh, and music is wrong too, that should be banned it upsets them so much. Fuck appeasement, they need to get laid more often and join the 21st century. Tolerance is not something I see when thousands of them are threatening death to all the west because a Danish newspaper showed a cartoon that they consider offensive." So, you demand tolerance and understanding for "your" people and culture, and expect "them" to realise that "one newspaper cartoon does not speak for the entire western world." And then you lump "these Muslims" into one big "them" and deride "their" culture? Wow, hypocritical and racist!

So... Gotta stick with my "Dave is a racist" thing. Sorry. Nice try with that "Nazi" comment, though. And questioning my humanity. You'd think I was an Arab!

---Lepus Rex


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Bye Bye Abu Musab al-Zarqawi
From: GUEST,Foxy
Date: 10 Jun 06 - 02:40 PM

"Fox News, a cable channel that is not available in Canada."

we do have cable and satellite T.V. up here in the frozen north, in case you are unaware.

sIx

*******

Hey sIxy,

I suppose you are unaware that the CRTC refuses to allow Fox News on Canadian cable and satellite services.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Bye Bye Abu Musab al-Zarqawi
From: DougR
Date: 10 Jun 06 - 01:56 PM

Thanks, Greg. I highly value your opinions too!

McGrath: I really believe the creator to Pogo, Walt Kelly, had in mind, "us" not, as you would obviously prefer, U. S. Read into it of course anything you wish.

DougR


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Bye Bye Abu Musab al-Zarqawi
From: number 6
Date: 10 Jun 06 - 01:54 PM

"Fox News, a cable channel that is not available in Canada."

we do have cable and satellite T.V. up here in the frozen north, in case you are unaware.

sIx


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Bye Bye Abu Musab al-Zarqawi
From: dianavan
Date: 10 Jun 06 - 12:11 PM

Ever heard of the internet?

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,198651,00.html

Thats a pretty lame attempt at a put down, Guest.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Bye Bye Abu Musab al-Zarqawi
From: GUEST,Foxy
Date: 10 Jun 06 - 11:58 AM

According to Dianavan, "Even FOX news knows that al-Zarqawi is the least of the problems in Iraq."

Dianavan claims to be in Canada, yet she watches Fox News, a cable channel that is not available in Canada.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Bye Bye Abu Musab al-Zarqawi
From: Dave (the ancient mariner)
Date: 10 Jun 06 - 11:41 AM

Lepus I am not a racist I made a statement publicly condemning terrorists on this forum, and still hold that position; and reserve the right to state that WE on this forum and around the world (aka any human beings of any race and belief ) are totally disgusted by it. I am neither anti Arab anti Muslim nor anti Jew; I am however anti any culture that preaches the type of murderous actions of 9-11 are justifiable or worthy of celebration.

Your miserable attempts to debate otherwise are thereby exonerating this type of disgusting criminal activity as justified. As such you are acting like a Nazi, and your methods are beyond the pale of any acceptable human consideration. Are you a member of the human race?


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Bye Bye Abu Musab al-Zarqawi
From: GUEST
Date: 10 Jun 06 - 09:17 AM

This whole story is such BS. Do you know what two 500 pound bombs would do to a house? He would have been jellyfied. Such BS.

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20060609/D8I4VN101.html

This is the guy who was supposed to have killed Nick Berg (a probably CIA operative). Cut off his head on video. But experts say the film is bogus. al-Zarqawi had a wooden leg, yet the man with the saw in the video was moving around spryly, no limp, etc. Wearing rings and a watch. English being spoken in the background. Fake screams piped in, etc. A CIA psy-op.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Bye Bye Abu Musab al-Zarqawi
From: Lepus Rex
Date: 10 Jun 06 - 08:31 AM

Odd. The military has decided that the child killed in the airstrike is... no longer a child? General Casey, of course, said that a woman and child were among the dead. Now, his underling, Major General William Caldwell, says that there were no children. Whew! Now (*crosses fingers*) we can all enjoy the carnage, guilt free!

Dave: Hmm? I didn't say anything about... Oh. I see. Sorry for being so oblique. My last post was just my roundabout way of calling you a racist, prompted by your latest anti-Arab bullshit. Yanno, the stuff about us whiteys being better than them Arab darkies, an' stuff. Your usual material, in other words.

Anyways, no, I can't see the people dancing (except, as I mentioned, some of "the Arabs" in Iraq, who were even dancing in the streets! Savages.), as this is a text based deal. But lots of applause and celebrating. Or whatever you choose to call it when WE do it.

Doug: "Negative?" What could be more negative than crowing over an air strike that (according to initial reports) killed a child? I mean, honestly, I couldn't care less whether Abu Musab al-Zarqawi was killed or not. But if I did, and if I were the sort of person who thought it was a wonderful thing, I certainly wouldn't call this "good news," considering the circumstances. But who am I to rain on your parade with all this "dead child" nonsense? I apologise. Strut and hoot and pretend you have like-minded friends to high-five, and enjoy your imagined "victory," little man. It's nice to have something to live for.

---Lepus Rex


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Bye Bye Abu Musab al-Zarqawi
From: dianavan
Date: 10 Jun 06 - 03:20 AM

"U.S. troops twice launched massive invasions of Fallujah, the stronghold used by al-Qaida in Iraq fighters and other insurgents west of Baghdad. An April 2004 offensive left the city still in insurgent hands, but the October 2004 assault wrested it from them. However, al-Zarqawi _ if he was in the city _ escaped." - CBS news

So it only cost 400+ lives and the destruction of Fallujah to eventually kill one man.

Even FOX news knows that al-Zarqawi is the least of the problems in Iraq. The threat by terrorists in Iraq is very small compared to the sectarian violence which has erupted between Sunnis and Shiites. Its a civil war, now, and the death of one terrorist is
insignificant.

If he had been brought to trial for the beheadings, that would have been a reason to rejoice but to destroy a city and hundreds of civilians has nothing to do with justice.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Bye Bye Abu Musab al-Zarqawi
From: GUEST,sorefingers
Date: 10 Jun 06 - 12:54 AM

It's a war, this buggar did his disgusting stuff. Now the other side, us, did ours, and blew him to where he belongs, hell.

Good riddance, not a day too soon either.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Bye Bye Abu Musab al-Zarqawi
From: Greg F.
Date: 09 Jun 06 - 09:52 PM

Nice to come back on the Mudcat from time to time to reaffirm that there a lot of pathetic, negative, sick thinking folks on it.

One of the most pathetic posted on 09 Jun 06 at 08:37 PM


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Bye Bye Abu Musab al-Zarqawi
From: Peace
Date: 09 Jun 06 - 09:50 PM

Yes. They want the oil. Obvious, Watson. The machetes are rusty.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Bye Bye Abu Musab al-Zarqawi
From: GUEST
Date: 09 Jun 06 - 09:47 PM

So, there are people with rusty machetes poised to attack Canada?


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Bye Bye Abu Musab al-Zarqawi
From: Peace
Date: 09 Jun 06 - 09:31 PM

"Pax, Shalom, Salaam, and Mir-u Mir, Bruce!"

Back atcha, buddy.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Bye Bye Abu Musab al-Zarqawi
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 09 Jun 06 - 09:29 PM

"We have met the enemy and he is us."

Actually how that Pogo quote appeared it was slightly different:

WE HAVE MET THE ENEMY AND HE IS US

Those capital letters for the last word make for an interesting alternative reading.

.................
If the killing of al-Zarqawi means that fewer innocent people will be butchered by people who think the same way as he did that is something to welcome. But there is no reason whatsoever to think that this is necessarily true. It doesn't work that way. Apply the same logic to people who have killed much larger numbers of people. Did the killing of Kennedy stop the war in Vietnam?

I'm inclined to think that 282RA up the thread is right in saying that the death of Zarqawi is pretty good news for Iraqis involved in fighting against the occupation, and even for Al Qaeda.

That is of course assuming that he is dead - this isn't the first time it has been reported that he has been killed.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Bye Bye Abu Musab al-Zarqawi
From: robomatic
Date: 09 Jun 06 - 09:21 PM

Pax, Shalom, Salaam, and Mir-u Mir, Bruce!


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Bye Bye Abu Musab al-Zarqawi
From: GUEST,Stan
Date: 09 Jun 06 - 09:02 PM

Good riddance to a savage murderer. To applaud his overdue demise is not to approve of everything the US has done in the world. He was a seriously evil man and he got what he deserved.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Bye Bye Abu Musab al-Zarqawi
From: DougR
Date: 09 Jun 06 - 08:37 PM

Nice to come back on the Mudcat from time to time to reaffirm that there a lot of pathetic, negative, sick thinking folks on it.

As far a Berg's dad is concened, in my opinion he doesn't row with both oars in the water.

DougR


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Bye Bye Abu Musab al-Zarqawi
From: dianavan
Date: 09 Jun 06 - 08:23 PM

If the money that was spent on the destsruction of Iraq had gone into food, education and medicine, the Iraq may have eventually evolved into a democracy.

Since when do you bring democracy to a country by destroying it?

...and where is all the money that was supposed to be spent on the infrastructure?

No, I am not happy about the death of al-Zarqawi because his death will create a hundred more terrorists.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Bye Bye Abu Musab al-Zarqawi
From: Peace
Date: 09 Jun 06 - 07:49 PM

Oh.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Bye Bye Abu Musab al-Zarqawi
From: Teribus
Date: 09 Jun 06 - 07:48 PM

Arne - 09 Jun 06 - 11:37 AM

"The Dubya maladministration had a chance to go after the Ansar al-Islam camps and Zarqawi (in the northern "no-fly" zone)"

Only trouble with that arguement is that Ansar al-Islam's camp was NOT in the Northern "No-Fly" Zone. The campe lies south-east of it and is conveniently close to the Iranian border to let those who have to skip across to avoid any unpleasantness.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Bye Bye Abu Musab al-Zarqawi
From: robomatic
Date: 09 Jun 06 - 07:02 PM

I just wonder how it would be if no money had gone into nuclear weapons (50,000 at a conservative estimate), and what good that could have done for kids/families all over the planet.

Probably by now there would have been several world wars, another 300 million dead, and fossil fuels would have been burned away fueling tens of thousands of warcraft, the death of democracy at home and abroad, and about ten new religions.

Meanwhile, no one would have gone to the moon, no United Nations, no technology gone to advancing medicine, computers would be a couple generations behind where they actually are, and rather than the societal frisson of dread over the end of civilization, would be the dull sense that somehow, somewhen, things could have been better, sorta like George Orwell's 1984.

And we'd all be in uniform.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Bye Bye Abu Musab al-Zarqawi
From: GUEST
Date: 09 Jun 06 - 05:53 PM

Not too surprised that Dianavan isn't happy that al-Zarqawi is dead. It's not like he's really evil like Steven Harper and David Emerson, the Canadian politicians that she said she hopes the terrorists kill.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Bye Bye Abu Musab al-Zarqawi
From: GUEST,mg
Date: 09 Jun 06 - 05:41 PM

If we hadn't spent the money on nuclear weapons and other forms of defense...

a few, very few, bad guys with rusty machetes, dead bodies to put in wells, bamboo sticks and rocks could have taken over entirely. mg


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Bye Bye Abu Musab al-Zarqawi
From: CarolC
Date: 09 Jun 06 - 05:40 PM

but no-one has the right to murder by turning children and civilian aeroplanes into bombs, and killing innocent men women and children

But it's ok to kill innocent women and children with cluster bombs, landmines, and white phosphorus after saying about the insurgents, "bring em on".


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Bye Bye Abu Musab al-Zarqawi
From: GUEST
Date: 09 Jun 06 - 05:13 PM

So would have it been better for him to live and keep beheading innocent people? He certainly was not about to stop doing evil things.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Bye Bye Abu Musab al-Zarqawi
From: MarkS
Date: 09 Jun 06 - 04:43 PM

We did not even have the decency to file an environmental impact statement before we dropped the bombs.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Bye Bye Abu Musab al-Zarqawi
From: Dave (the ancient mariner)
Date: 09 Jun 06 - 04:38 PM

Everyone has the right CaroleC; but no-one has the right to murder by turning children and civilian aeroplanes into bombs, and killing innocent men women and children. Then celebrating the deaths by dancing in the street....No-one!


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Bye Bye Abu Musab al-Zarqawi
From: CarolC
Date: 09 Jun 06 - 04:29 PM

you must defend yourselves when attacked

Does everyone have this right, or just the Western hegemonic empire?


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Bye Bye Abu Musab al-Zarqawi
From: Dave (the ancient mariner)
Date: 09 Jun 06 - 04:25 PM

Sir William Stephenson (Intrepid) said the same thing after WW2.

"We already have several global wars to fight , ignorance,starvation,disease,poverty, and there is enough glory for all in defeating these enemies"

Yours, Aye. Dave


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Bye Bye Abu Musab al-Zarqawi
From: Peace
Date: 09 Jun 06 - 04:19 PM

True to that, Dave.

I just wonder how it would be if no money had gone into nuclear weapons (50,000 at a conservative estimate), and what good that could have done for kids/families all over the planet.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Bye Bye Abu Musab al-Zarqawi
From: Dave (the ancient mariner)
Date: 09 Jun 06 - 04:15 PM

I work in Air Sea Rescue, imagine if I had just one aircraft carrier group and budget for one year to save lives? We just got a few hand held thermal imaging devices last year; our (Canadian) tanks have had them as gunsights for at least five years....

War is obscene, but you must defend yourselves when attacked.

Yours, Aye. Dave


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Bye Bye Abu Musab al-Zarqawi
From: number 6
Date: 09 Jun 06 - 04:02 PM

Well said Peace ... putting the money were it is much needed ... not into the war machines.

sIx


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Bye Bye Abu Musab al-Zarqawi
From: Rapparee
Date: 09 Jun 06 - 03:59 PM

Use the money for schools, libraries, health care, food, decent housing.

At USD 1.00 per meal, USD 450 billion would provide about seventy-five meals for every man, woman, and child on the planet.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Bye Bye Abu Musab al-Zarqawi
From: Peace
Date: 09 Jun 06 - 03:24 PM

Not to single out the US--the below is from the news:

"The next $50 billion bridge fund, which lawmakers expect to cover about six months, would bring the cost of both wars to nearly $450 billion, and many expect that to reach $500 billion by the end of next year."

That kind of money applied to feeding folks could do a great deal of good.

Then there is this 'plea' on another site pertaining to Guatemala and a school project (feeding kids daily):

"How about asking each person for just $0.25 to feed one child one day?"

I don't know how to go about doing the math on this. Regardless, I do know that monies spent on weapons and war could be better put to feeding/educating/'healthifying' people. As I said at the top, this is not about the US. This is about all countries that pander to and frolic with "the masters of war". It's friggin' time we stopped. IMO.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Bye Bye Abu Musab al-Zarqawi
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 09 Jun 06 - 03:10 PM

Hmm, Rapaire

"I wish ALL the terrorists were dead, and I can't get too worked up over al-Zarqawi.

No matter who or what side they purport to be on."

Makes for an interesting view on Irish politics, no? Do England a favour and tow Ireland a bit further into the Atlantic before you sink it, please.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Bye Bye Abu Musab al-Zarqawi
From: Rapparee
Date: 09 Jun 06 - 01:55 PM

"We have met the enemy and he is us."
                        --Pogo


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Bye Bye Abu Musab al-Zarqawi
From: GUEST,sick of hypocrites
Date: 09 Jun 06 - 01:51 PM

How about all the people starving to death in the world while we stuff our fat faces, buy monstrous 4x4s and pollute the atmosphere?


We're ALL (indirect?) murderers ...


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Bye Bye Abu Musab al-Zarqawi
From: Peace
Date: 09 Jun 06 - 12:43 PM

Considering that children around the world starve and die as a result, the loss of Abu Musab al-Zarqawi don't really rank in there with 'let's have a moment of silence for the guy' if ya know what I mean.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: Bye Bye Abu Musab al-Zarqawi
From: Dave (the ancient mariner)
Date: 09 Jun 06 - 12:42 PM

Nice to be a compassionate human being who does not celebrate murder of any human being Lepus Rex I have not seen anyone dancing over the death of anyone here... Have You?


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate
Next Page

 


You must be a member to post in non-music threads. Join here.


You must be a member to post in non-music threads. Join here.



Mudcat time: 28 November 6:09 AM EST

[ Home ]

All original material is copyright © 1998 by the Mudcat Café Music Foundation, Inc. All photos, music, images, etc. are copyright © by their rightful owners. Every effort is taken to attribute appropriate copyright to images, content, music, etc. We are not a copyright resource.