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BS: Chesterton quotes

Bert 09 Apr 06 - 08:00 PM
McGrath of Harlow 09 Apr 06 - 08:16 PM
greg stephens 10 Apr 06 - 05:59 AM
John O'L 10 Apr 06 - 06:35 AM
Purple Foxx 10 Apr 06 - 06:46 AM
greg stephens 10 Apr 06 - 06:55 AM
John O'L 10 Apr 06 - 07:02 AM
greg stephens 10 Apr 06 - 07:12 AM
Purple Foxx 10 Apr 06 - 08:41 AM
John O'L 10 Apr 06 - 09:30 AM
Purple Foxx 10 Apr 06 - 09:31 AM
John O'L 10 Apr 06 - 09:39 AM
John O'L 10 Apr 06 - 09:50 AM
GUEST,Paul Burke 10 Apr 06 - 10:22 AM
Purple Foxx 10 Apr 06 - 10:28 AM
McGrath of Harlow 10 Apr 06 - 02:04 PM
GUEST,leeneia 10 Apr 06 - 10:57 PM
John O'L 10 Apr 06 - 11:10 PM
GUEST,leeneia 11 Apr 06 - 09:55 AM
Nigel Parsons 11 Apr 06 - 12:56 PM
Purple Foxx 11 Apr 06 - 02:51 PM
GUEST,Joe_F 11 Apr 06 - 08:52 PM
McGrath of Harlow 11 Apr 06 - 09:25 PM
Nigel Parsons 13 Apr 06 - 12:41 PM
GUEST,Joe_F 13 Apr 06 - 09:25 PM
McGrath of Harlow 14 Apr 06 - 06:07 PM
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Subject: BS: Chesterton quotes
From: Bert
Date: 09 Apr 06 - 08:00 PM

Here's a fun site


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Subject: RE: BS: Chesterton quotes
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 09 Apr 06 - 08:16 PM

You are so right.

And here is his epic The Ballad of the White Horse


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Subject: RE: BS: Chesterton quotes
From: greg stephens
Date: 10 Apr 06 - 05:59 AM

"My attitude to progress has changed from antagonism to boredom"
Just thought I'd include that gem from the site, to encourage anyone having a glance at the thread to go in and have a read. What a brilliant collection of quotes, I have just had a very happy time bowssing through.. Bert, thank you very much for drawing this to our attention.


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Subject: RE: BS: Chesterton quotes
From: John O'L
Date: 10 Apr 06 - 06:35 AM

That guy was a 'Catter ahead of his time.


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Subject: RE: BS: Chesterton quotes
From: Purple Foxx
Date: 10 Apr 06 - 06:46 AM

Let's not forget that Chesterton was Profascist & openly Antisemitic.


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Subject: RE: BS: Chesterton quotes
From: greg stephens
Date: 10 Apr 06 - 06:55 AM

true enough, but I'd hate to cut myself off from enjoyment of his writings because of it. Think of Yeats,Wodehouse,Shaw, HG Wells, Ewan McColl. All with some pretty horrible political skeletons in their closets, but all worth a bit of attention in spite of it.


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Subject: RE: BS: Chesterton quotes
From: John O'L
Date: 10 Apr 06 - 07:02 AM

I wasn't aware of his politics, in fact I wasn't aware of him at all until just now, but there are many 'Catters with whom I disagree most emphatically, but whose posts I read with pleasure.

Actually, what I was thinking when I made that post was how self-opinionated he was.


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Subject: RE: BS: Chesterton quotes
From: greg stephens
Date: 10 Apr 06 - 07:12 AM

The original crusty old curmudgeon, a persona he developed pretty young, I think.


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Subject: RE: BS: Chesterton quotes
From: Purple Foxx
Date: 10 Apr 06 - 08:41 AM

Good responses John & Greg.
Political Compass (www.politicalcompass.org) have a very informative quiz on this kind of disparity.
They also have an analysis of the political positions of famous composers.
I know there has been a thread here before on this subject (now closed) nevertheless it's well worth a visit.
PF Economic Left/Right -7.13
   Social Libertarian/Authoritarian -5.79.


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Subject: RE: BS: Chesterton quotes
From: John O'L
Date: 10 Apr 06 - 09:30 AM

Economic Left/Right: -7.88
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.41

I seem to have similar ideas to Nelson Mandela. You, Purple Foxx, seem to think more like the Dalai Lama.

I guess I'm pretty happy with that.


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Subject: RE: BS: Chesterton quotes
From: Purple Foxx
Date: 10 Apr 06 - 09:31 AM

The Dalai Lama?!?!?!?!


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Subject: RE: BS: Chesterton quotes
From: John O'L
Date: 10 Apr 06 - 09:39 AM

On the results page, further down, there is a graph plotting the positions of several famous people.
Unfortunately, as I've just found, if you want to see it you'll have to do the test again.


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Subject: RE: BS: Chesterton quotes
From: John O'L
Date: 10 Apr 06 - 09:50 AM

No you don't have to!
Go the home page and click 'Analysis'. On that page click 'View The Analysis'. Scroll right down.


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Subject: RE: BS: Chesterton quotes
From: GUEST,Paul Burke
Date: 10 Apr 06 - 10:22 AM

-6.38, -4.77, so I'm on a similar vector but a little inboard of you two. But I could have done with a click between "agree" and "disagree" for some questions. And others I thought were phrased rather strangely, as if to force an answer- there were several that asked "is" questions, where to answer is to state about matters of fact, rather than "ought" questions.

I notice from elsewhere on the site that the only UK party in the same quadrant is the Green Party.


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Subject: RE: BS: Chesterton quotes
From: Purple Foxx
Date: 10 Apr 06 - 10:28 AM

The "disparity quiz" I mentioned is called Iconochasms.


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Subject: RE: BS: Chesterton quotes
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 10 Apr 06 - 02:04 PM

I came in as:

Economic Left/Right: -7.63
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.10

Very much the same as John -I'm evidently a bit further left, and a shade less libertarian.

I kept on wanting to disagree with the question, as having excluded my view by the way it was phrased.

I suspect Chesterton would have had similar problems - for example coming up against a question like "Our race has many superior qualities, compared with other races" he'd have been likely to object that it needed to be accompanied by one saying "Other races have many superior qualities, compared with our race", with the option of agreeing with both of them.


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Subject: RE: BS: Chesterton quotes
From: GUEST,leeneia
Date: 10 Apr 06 - 10:57 PM

Thanks for the link, Bert. I enjoyed it.
------------
Hey y'all. Hindsight is always 20-20.


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Subject: RE: BS: Chesterton quotes
From: John O'L
Date: 10 Apr 06 - 11:10 PM

Should have seen that coming...


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Subject: RE: BS: Chesterton quotes
From: GUEST,leeneia
Date: 11 Apr 06 - 09:55 AM

Yep.


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Subject: RE: BS: Chesterton quotes
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 11 Apr 06 - 12:56 PM

Going by the responses above, I assume we're not discussing Ian Chesterton

I thought it a 'timely' comment with the start of a new series next Saturday!

CHEERS
Nigel


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Subject: RE: BS: Chesterton quotes
From: Purple Foxx
Date: 11 Apr 06 - 02:51 PM

I know that free movement in time and space is a scientific dream I don't expect to find solved in a junkyard.


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Subject: RE: BS: Chesterton quotes
From: GUEST,Joe_F
Date: 11 Apr 06 - 08:52 PM

"And at last, when I had walked for what seemed a long time, I saw a light too near the earth to mean anything but the image of God." -- "Humanity: An Interlude" (1908)

"The men of the clan live together because they all wear the same tartan or are all descended from the same sacred cow; but in their souls, by the divine luck of things, there will always be more colours than in any tartan. But the men of the clique live together because they have the same kind of soul, and their narrowness is a narrowness of spiritual coherence and contentment, like that which exists in hell." -- "On the Institution of the Family" (1906)

"The best way that a man could test his readiness to encounter the common variety of mankind would be to climb down the chimney into any house at random, and get on as well as possible with the people inside. And that was essentially what each one of us did on the day that he was born." -- Ibid.

--- Joe Fineman    joe_f@verizon.net

||: If you handle other people's money, you must pay yourself well to protect yourself from the temptation to steal. :||


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Subject: RE: BS: Chesterton quotes
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 11 Apr 06 - 09:25 PM

But that can shade into: "When you handle other people's money, paying yourself well is the safest way of stealing."


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Subject: RE: BS: Chesterton quotes
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 13 Apr 06 - 12:41 PM

Some moment when the moon was blood
Then surely I was born;

With monstrous head and sickening cry
And ears like errant wings,
The devil's walking parody
On all four-footed things


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Subject: RE: BS: Chesterton quotes
From: GUEST,Joe_F
Date: 13 Apr 06 - 09:25 PM

McGrath: That was the idea.

--- Joe Fineman    joe_f@verizon.net

||: The middle class needs a drink first; the working class :||

||: needs one afterward.                                     :||


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Subject: RE: BS: Chesterton quotes
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 14 Apr 06 - 06:07 PM

I thought it might be, Joe, but you never can tell, when irony is in play in a multi-cultural forum like the Mudcat.


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