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Subject: BS:
From: GUEST,Clogger
Date: 30 Dec 05 - 07:06 PM

There is a popular misconception that certain things were invented by our American cousins when in fact they WERE NOT!
Examples are:-
English (obviously)
Powered Flight (Wilbur and Orvile just got published more)(U.K.)
The Atom Bomb (Not so sure I am proud of this one)(Joint allied)

O.K. In the spirit of fair play (I am English after all) we can have inventions that ARE american but are thought not to be.Just be sure to tell us where they were invented.....Have fun!


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Subject: RE: BS: Inventions 'claimed' to be American
From: bobad
Date: 30 Dec 05 - 07:13 PM

Canadian Inventions
Only a small percentage of the great inventions invented by Canadian inventors are listed below.

5 Pin Bowling ...a truly Canadian sport invented by T.E. Ryan of Toronto in 1909

Able Walker ...the walker was patented by Norm Rolston in 1986

Access Bar ...patented food bar designed to help burn fat by Dr Larry Wang

Air-Conditioned Railway Coach ...invented by Henry Ruttan in 1858

Abdominizer ...the infomercial exercise darling invented by Dennis Colonello in 1984

AC Radio Tube ..invented by Edward Samuels Rogers in 1925

Acetylene ...Thomas L. Wilson invented the production process in 1892

Acetylene Buoy ...invented by Thomas L. Wilson in 1904

Agrifoam Crop Cold Protector ...co-invented in 1967 by D. Siminovitch & J. W. Butler

Analytical Plotter ...a 3d map making system invented by Uno Vilho Helava in 1957

Andromonon ...a 3 wheeled vehicle invented in 1851 by Thomas Turnbull

Anti-Gravity Suit ...invented by Wilbur Rounding Franks in 1941, a suit for high altitude jet pilots

Automatic Foghorn ...the first steam foghorn was invented by Robert Foulis in 1859

Automatic Machinery Lubricator ...one of the many inventions invented by Elijah McCoy, the "Real McCoy"

Automatic Postal Sorter ...in 1957, Maurice Levy invented a postal sorter that could handle 200,000 letters an hour

Basketball ...invented by James Naismith in 1891

Bone Marrow Compatibility Test ...invented by Barbara Bain in 1960

Bromine ...a process to extract was invented by Herbert Henry Dow in 1890

Calcium Carbide ...in 1892, Thomas Leopold Willson invented a process for Calcium Carbide

Canada Dry Ginger Ale ...invented in 1907 by John A. McLaughlin

Chocolate Nut Bar ...Arthur Ganong made the first nickel bar in 1910

Computerized Braille ...invented by Roland Galarneau in 1972

Creed Telegraph System ..in 1900, Fredrick Creed invented a way to convert Morse Code to text

Compound Steam Engine ...invented by Benjamin Franklin Tibbetts in 1842

CPR Mannequin ...invented by Dianne Croteau in 1989.

Electric Car Heater ...Thomas Ahearn invented the first electric car heater in 1890

Electric Cooking Range ...Thomas Ahearn invented the first in 1882

Electric Light Bulb ...Henry Woodward invented the electric light bulb in 1874 and sold the patent to Thomas Edison

Electron Microscope ...Eli Franklin Burton, Cecil Hall, James Hillier, Albert Prebus co-invented the electron microscope in 1937

Electric Organ ...Morse Robb of Belleville, Ontario, patented the world's first electric organ in 1928

Electric Streetcar - Invented by John Joseph Wright in 1883

Fathometer ...An early form of sonar invented by Reginald A. Fessenden in 1919

Film Colourization ...invented by Wilson Markle in 1983

Garbage Bag ...(polyethylene) invented by Harry Wasylyk in 1950

Goalie Mask ...invented by Jaques Plante in 1960

Gramophone ...co-invented by Alexander Graham Bell & Emile Berliner in 1889

Green Ink ...currency or greenbacks ink invented by Thomas Sterry Hunt in 1862

Half-tone Engraving ...co-invented by Georges Edouard Desbarats & William Augustus Leggo in 1869

Heart Pacemaker ...invented by Dr. John A. Hopps in 1950

Hydrofoil Boats ...co-invented by Alexander Graham Bell, & Casey Baldwin in 1908

IMax Movie System ...co-invented in 1968 by Grahame Ferguson, Roman Kroitor and Robert Kerr

Instant Mashed Potatoes ...dehydrated potato flakes were invented by Edward A. Asselbergs, in 1962

Insulin Process ...Fredrick Banting, J. J. Macleod, Charles Best and Collip invented the process for insulin in 1922

JAVA ...a programming language invented by James Gosling in 1994

Jetliner ...the first jetliner was designed by James Floyd in 1949

Jolly Jumper ...a baby's delight invented by Olivia Poole in 1959

Kerosene ...invented by Doctor Abraham Gesner in 1846

Lawn Sprinkler ...another invention made by the Real McCoy

Light Bulb Leads ..leads made of nickel & iron alloy were invented by Reginald A. Fessenden in 1892

Marquis Wheat ...invented by Sir Charles E. Saunders in 1908

Mcintosh Apple ...invented by John McIntosh in 1796

Music Synthesizer ...invented by Hugh Le Caine in 1945

Newsprint ...invented by Charles Fenerty in 1838

Odometer ...invented by Samuel McKeen in 1854

Paint Roller ...invented by Norman Breakey of Toronto in 1940

Plexiglas ...(Polymerized Methyl Methacrylate) invented by William Chalmers in 1931

Polypump Liquid Dispenser ...Harold Humphrey made pumpable liquid hand soap possible in 1972

Portable Film Developing System ...invented by Arthur Williams McCurdy in 1890, but he foolishly sold the patent to George Eastman in 1903

Potato Digger ...invented by Alexander Anderson in 1856

Process to Extract Helium from Natural Gas ...invented by Sir John Cunningham McLennan in 1915

Prosthetic Hand ...an electric prosthetic invented by Helmut Lucas in 1971

Quartz Clock ...Warren Marrison developed the first quartz clock

R-Theta Navigation System ...invented by J.E.G. Wright in 1958

Radio-Transmitted Voice ...invented by Reginald A. Fessenden in 1904

Railway Car Brake ...invented by George B. Dorey in 1913

Railway Sleeper Car ...invented by Samuel Sharp in 1857

Robertson Screw ...invented by Peter L. Robertson in 1908

Rotary Blow Molding Machine ...this plastic bottle maker was invented by Gustave C�t� in 1966

Rotary Railroad Snowplow ...invented by J.E. Elliott in 1869

Rubber Shoe Heels ...Elijah McCoy patented an important iimprovement to rubber heels in 1879

Safety Paint ...a high reflectivity paint invented by Neil Harpham in 1974

Screw Propeller ...a ship's propeller invented by John Patch in 1833

Silicon Chip Blood Analyzer ...invented by Imants Lauks in 1986

SlickLicker ...made for cleaning oil spills, patented by Richard Sewell in 1970

Snowblower ...invented by Arthur Sicard in 1925

Snowmobile ...invented by Joseph-Armand Bombardier in 1922

Standard Time ...invented by Sir Sanford Fleming in 1878

Stereo-orthography Map Making System ...invented by T.J. Blachut, Stanley Collins in 1965

Superphosphate Fertilizer ...invented by Thomas L. Wilson in 1896

Synthetic Sucrose ...invented by Dr. Raymond Lemieux in 1953

Television ...Reginald A. Fessenden patented a television system in 1927

Television Camera ...invented by F. C. P. Henroteau in 1934

Telephone ..invented by Alexander Graham Bell in 1876

Telephone Handset ...invented by Cyril Duquet in 1878

Tone-to-Pulse Converter ...invented by Michael Cowpland in 1974

Trivial Pursuit ...invented on December 15, 1979 by Chris Haney and Scott Abbott

Tuck-Away-Handle Beer Carton ...invented by Steve Pasjac in 1957

Undersea Telegraph Cable ...invented by Fredrick Newton Gisborne in 1857

UV-degradable Plastics ...invented by Dr. James Guillet in 1971

Variable Pitch Aircraft Propeller ...invented by Walter Rupert Turnbull in 1922

Walkie-Talkie ...invented by Donald L. Hings in 1942

Wireless Radio ...invented by Reginald A. Fessenden in 1900

Wirephoto ...Edward Samuels Rogers invented the first in 1925

Zipper ...invented by Gideon Sundback in 1913


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Subject: RE: BS: Inventions 'claimed' to be American
From: robomatic
Date: 30 Dec 05 - 07:25 PM

This thread looks like a setup but:

Controlled powered flight is properly attributed to the Wright Brothers of Ohio. Got nothin' to do with who published more.

I never heard that nuclear power and weaponry was ever attributed to a single nation, but manufacture, production and use of nuclear reactors and weaponry first occurred in the US.

In the above list on first perusal I can only wonder at the attribution of Wireless radio to other than Tesla, Marconi, Armstrong and that other guy who got the patent.


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Subject: RE: BS: Inventions 'claimed' to be American
From: Peace
Date: 30 Dec 05 - 07:55 PM

Hell, bobad, Superman's gotta count fer somethin', don't he?


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Subject: RE: BS: Inventions 'claimed' to be American
From: gnu
Date: 30 Dec 05 - 08:03 PM

Invention does not equal practical application or patent.


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Subject: RE: BS: Inventions 'claimed' to be American
From: bobad
Date: 30 Dec 05 - 08:10 PM

Yer right Peace and as a matter of further interest re. Superman, one of the early writers for both Batman and Superman, a man by the name of Alvin Schwartz, lives in a small town near to me, I have met and spoken with him a few times, a delightful man, who also wrote what is considered to be the first existential novel "The Blowtop" in 1948.


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Subject: RE: BS: Inventions 'claimed' to be American
From: wysiwyg
Date: 30 Dec 05 - 08:31 PM

MUDCAT was invented in America.

~S~


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Subject: RE: BS: Inventions 'claimed' to be American
From: Rapparee
Date: 30 Dec 05 - 08:34 PM

Actually, no one person can be said to have "invented" anything.

"If I have seen further it is because I stood on the backs of giants," some Englishman or another said.


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Subject: RE: BS: Inventions 'claimed' to be American
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 30 Dec 05 - 09:17 PM

Who invented the Martini?


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Subject: RE: BS: Inventions 'claimed' to be American
From: Peace
Date: 30 Dec 05 - 09:21 PM

Newton?


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Subject: RE: BS: Inventions 'claimed' to be American
From: GUEST,Big Al
Date: 30 Dec 05 - 09:31 PM

I invented the internet.


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Subject: RE: BS: Inventions 'claimed' to be American
From: bobad
Date: 30 Dec 05 - 09:38 PM

Nah Peace, didn't he invent the Fig Newton ?


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Subject: RE: BS: Inventions 'claimed' to be American
From: Peace
Date: 30 Dec 05 - 09:52 PM

Oh, yeah. So, who invented the marshmallow?


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Subject: RE: BS: Inventions 'claimed' to be American
From: bobad
Date: 30 Dec 05 - 10:01 PM

The Egyptians

Marshmallow candy was first made by ancient Egyptians over three thousand years ago. The Egyptians made candy from the root of the marshmallow plant (Althea officinalis), a plant that grows in marshes. Today's marshmallows do not contain any mallow root - gelatin is substituted for the sweet, sticky root.

http://www.enchantedlearning.com/inventors/indexm.shtml


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Subject: RE: BS: Inventions 'claimed' to be American
From: GUEST,Marsha
Date: 30 Dec 05 - 10:02 PM

snap!bobad


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Subject: RE: BS: Inventions 'claimed' to be American
From: Peace
Date: 30 Dec 05 - 10:04 PM

OK, wise guy. Who invented Marsha?


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Subject: RE: BS: Inventions 'claimed' to be American
From: bobad
Date: 30 Dec 05 - 10:07 PM

Got me there, maybe Marsha can shed light.


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Subject: RE: BS: Inventions 'claimed' to be American
From: GUEST
Date: 30 Dec 05 - 10:11 PM

The shed light: that one I can answer. It was invented by my uncle many years ago. True, it was an adaptation of Edison's bulb, but my uncle named it "The Shed Light". When he needed to see what he was doing in the shed, he'd say, "Turn on the SHED light." Never once did he say, "Turn on the kitchen light" or turn on the livingroom light; nooooooooooooo, it was always "Turn on the shed light." FYI


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Subject: RE: BS: Inventions 'claimed' to be American
From: Rapparee
Date: 30 Dec 05 - 10:50 PM

I used to turn on such a light until I got shed of the job. Which was okay, because it was a pretty sheddy job anyway.


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Subject: RE: BS: Inventions 'claimed' to be American
From: Rapparee
Date: 30 Dec 05 - 10:52 PM

(Actually, the quote was from good ol' Izzy Newton. The giant whose back he mostly stood upon was an Eyetalian feller named Galileo.)


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Subject: RE: BS: Inventions 'claimed' to be American
From: Peace
Date: 30 Dec 05 - 11:14 PM

'"I believe that imagination is stronger than knowledge. That myth is more potent than history. That dreams are more powerful than facts. That hope always triumphs over experience. That laughter is the only cure for grief. And I believe that love is stronger than death."

Albert Einstein'


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Subject: RE: BS: Inventions 'claimed' to be American
From: GUEST
Date: 30 Dec 05 - 11:31 PM

...and it matters not who invented what - the importance lies with who made the most of it.


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Subject: RE: BS: Inventions 'claimed' to be American
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 31 Dec 05 - 12:42 AM

The pen is mightier than the pencil.


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Subject: RE: BS: Inventions 'claimed' to be American
From: Peace
Date: 31 Dec 05 - 12:44 AM

Mr Bic said that, huh?


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Subject: RE: BS: Inventions 'claimed' to be American
From: JohnInKansas
Date: 31 Dec 05 - 01:15 AM

bobad:

Computerized Braille ...invented by Roland Galarneau in 1972

I can prove that I and two associates invented this in 1960. I've got the certificate for the award of the "Louis DeFlorez prize" of $500 (split 3 ways) for this "invention." The other two guys in the team both used this invention as the subject for their MS theses, and formed a company to produce it no later than about 1968 in the US.

(Of course it depends on what your really mean by Computerized Braille. It's best to be a bit vague in discussions of this kind.

John


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Subject: RE: BS: Inventions 'claimed' to be American
From: bobad
Date: 31 Dec 05 - 11:42 AM

JinK

I don't know from computerized braille, I just copy/pasted the list but the story's here http://ieee.ca/millennium/braille/braille_his.html
Let us know how this compares to your invention.


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Subject: RE: BS: Inventions 'claimed' to be American
From: GUEST,clogger
Date: 31 Dec 05 - 01:20 PM

Powerd flight was an English invention, just because a wrong factoid is continiously repeated it doesent make it correct!
If you are looking for unexpected items how about BUDWISER!!or the ROCKET ENGINE!
OK it's party time and this will affect EVERYONE so who invented the "Leap Second"? Party on down and be good to each other!


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Subject: RE: BS: Inventions 'claimed' to be American
From: DMcG
Date: 31 Dec 05 - 01:27 PM

As for flights, see this American Site.
Even a site concentrating on the Wright Brothers restricts their achievement to "the first sustained, controlled powered flight"; three qualifying adjectives, at least two of which are subjective (sustained for how long, for example?)

I am reminded of a story about a newspaper that accurately claimed to be the best selling independently owned weekly newspaper in the Manchester area ...


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Subject: RE: BS: Inventions 'claimed' to be American
From: JohnInKansas
Date: 31 Dec 05 - 03:26 PM

The apocryphal story is told that at the conclusion of a US - Russian track meet the Russians reported to their own people that "Russia received the second place medal, while the US came in next to last."

?????

John


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Subject: RE: BS: Inventions 'claimed' to be American
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 31 Dec 05 - 03:27 PM

Rapaire the quote is actually:
"If I have seen further it is by standing on the shoulders of giants", and whilst generally attributed to Isaac Newton, it would appear to be derivative even at that time. See On The Shoulders of giants
A part of this quote is inscribed around the milled edge of a 2 coin


CHEERS

Nigel


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Subject: RE: BS: Inventions 'claimed' to be American
From: Rapparee
Date: 31 Dec 05 - 04:34 PM

I don't care. My point is that everything comes about in its time because of the work that went before. Besides, I was quoting from memory, and that's not what it never was anyway.


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Subject: RE: BS: Inventions 'claimed' to be American
From: Bert
Date: 31 Dec 05 - 04:40 PM

Logie Baird, the father of this pervasive technology, first publicly demonstrated television on 26 January 1926, in his small laboratory in the Soho district of London


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Subject: RE: BS: Inventions 'claimed' to be American
From: GUEST,sorefingers
Date: 31 Dec 05 - 10:14 PM

Not taking sides but...

Rockets invented in China.

Internal combustion invented in the Yoookay.

Computers invented by Mr Babbit - oddball and general mad inventor - Victorian England.

Transisitor invented in Japan.


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Subject: RE: BS: Inventions 'claimed' to be American
From: Ebbie
Date: 01 Jan 06 - 03:19 AM

Sorefingers, what Babbit is that? All I find is Isaac Babbit.


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Subject: RE: BS: Inventions 'claimed' to be American
From: Manitas_at_home
Date: 01 Jan 06 - 03:51 AM

Charles Babbage. His Differential and Analytical Engines were fully mechanical calculators capable of being programmed but I don't think there was a direct line of descent from them to the electronic computers we use today.


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Subject: RE: BS: Inventions 'claimed' to be American
From: DMcG
Date: 01 Jan 06 - 04:45 AM

Light Bulbs were not invented by Edison, nor did he invent sound recording and playback, though in both cases he converted them to commercially practical devices.


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Subject: RE: BS: Inventions 'claimed' to be American
From: GUEST,clogger
Date: 01 Jan 06 - 12:22 PM

Please! I did say Rocket ENGINE!(German)
As far as I am concerned rockets are a type of firework (Chineese)
GUNPOWDER (English)however is a totaly diferent thing!
HAPPY 2006 ... Have a good one!


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Subject: RE: BS: Inventions 'claimed' to be American
From: HuwG
Date: 01 Jan 06 - 03:25 PM

In the textbooks of Stalin's Russia, just about every invention of the last 200 years was attributed to some Russian, of suitably proletarian origin and usually named "Ivanov" or "Mikhailov", in the Ural mountains or somewhere equally remote.

Of course, the proof of such inventions was the official textbooks. Any earlier textbooks which failed to mention Comrade Ivanov and his marvellous invention, were by definition "Tsarist", "Trotskyite" or merely "Revisionist", and reading them was discouraged (by a bullet in the back of the head).

The "Guardian" (UK paper) several years ago, took British and American textbooks to task for similar "Ivanovisation". Who invented radio. Gugleilmo Marconi of course. His nationality ? Well, Italian textbooks give it as Italian, but that was dismissed by the others as merely an accident of where he was born. UK texts skimmed over his birth, but emphasised that much of his work was carried out in Britain, and the Marconi Company which made commercial use of his petented invention was founded there also. US books gave his nationality as American, as he later acquired US citizenship. And so on.

For an opposing view, read Michael Crichton's "Rising Sun", in which he argues that while Japan, Korea and China are busy inventing things, the American colleges are pushing out lawyers and money-manipulators.


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Subject: RE: BS: Inventions 'claimed' to be American
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 02 Jan 06 - 06:11 AM

Big Al the guest isn't me.

I don't give a bugger who did what.


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Subject: RE: BS: Inventions 'claimed' to be American
From: robomatic
Date: 02 Jan 06 - 05:04 PM

Clogger ye be a troll.

First liquid rocket was American.

If ye're talking about people what invented paper planes I've got news for you. The Chinese invented paper. Cayley and a host of others were following on the work of Da Vinci. The hilarious point that sustained controlled flight are qualifications as if they were 'limitations' is in order to distinguish what the Wrights did, which was conceptual, analytical, practical, and reproducible, to what a lot of yahoos did, which was strap on some homemade bird or bat lookin' appendages, jump off a roof, and then say they invented flight (from their hospital beds).

I also think it doesn't really matter nationality of 'inventors' you seem to be more interested in baiting than intelligent discourse. So beit.


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Subject: RE: BS: Inventions 'claimed' to be American
From: DMcG
Date: 02 Jan 06 - 05:30 PM

The hilarious point that sustained controlled flight are qualifications as if they were 'limitations' is in order as if they were 'limitations' is in order to distinguish ...
Understood, but that is not quite my point. The Wright's first flight was sustained for, I think, 12 seconds. Had the 'limit' been 10 seconds, someone else may have claimed it (don't ask me who!); similarly if the general opinion had been that at least 15 seconds were required, it could well have been someone else. So there is something fundamentally arbitrary in the whole business in deciding who had the first 'sustained' flight.


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Subject: RE: BS: Inventions 'claimed' to be American
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 02 Jan 06 - 05:59 PM

Necessity is the mother of invention.... ain't nothing new under the sun.

LTS


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Subject: RE: BS: Inventions 'claimed' to be American
From: freda underhill
Date: 02 Jan 06 - 07:06 PM

these inventions are Australian..

1838 Pre-paid postage - Colonial Postmaster-General of New South Wales, James Raymond introduced the world's first pre-paid postal system.

1843 Grain stripper - John Ridley and John Bull of South Australia developed the world's first grain stripper that cut the crop then removed and placed the grain into bins.

1856 Refrigerator - Using the principal of vapour compression, James Harrison produced the world's first practical refrigerator. He was commissioned by a brewery to build a machine that cooled beer.

1858 Football - In 1858 Tom Will and Henry Harrison wrote the first ten rules of Football, thus becoming the first people in the world to codify a kicking-ball game. These rules predate those of Rugby, Soccer and Gridiron. Football may have been inspired by the Aboriginal jumping/kicking game of Marn Grook.

1874 The underwater torpedo - Invented by Louis Brennan, the torpedo had two propellers, rotated by wires which were attached to winding engines on the shore station. By varying the speed at which the two wires were extracted, the torpedo could be steered to the left or right by an operator on the shore.

1876 Stump jump plough- Robert and Clarence Bowyer Smith developed a plough which could jump over stumps and stones, enabling newly-cleared land to be cultivated.

1885 Telpahane - The forerunner of the television. It was invented by Henry Sutton in Ballarat.

1879 Refrigeration - Credited with the manufacture of the first artificial ice, Eugene Nicolle and Thomas Sutcliffe Mort developed shipboard refrigeration that resulted in the export of meat from Australia to Great Britain.

1889 Electric Drill - Arthur James Arnot, patented the world's first electric drill on 20 August 1889 while he was an employee of the Union Electric Company in Melbourne. He designed it primarily to drill rock and to dig coal.

1894 First powered flight - Perhaps inspired by the boomerang, Lawrence Hargrave discovered that curved surfaces lift more than flat ones. He subsequently built the world's first box-kite, hitched four together, added an engine and flew five metres.

Hargrave corresponded freely with other aviation pioneers, including the Wright Brothers. But unlike the Americans who monopolised their ideas, Hargrave never patented his. Because it promised public access, Hargrave left all his research to the Munich Museum.

Had Hargrave gained local support to further develop his ideas and not been so generous in sharing his ideas with other aviation pioneers, he probably would have been the first person in the world to achieve sustained and controlled powered flight.

1897 Differential gears - David Shearer of South Australia built a steam car with a differential inside left rear wheel hub.

1902 Notepad -For 500 years, paper had been supplied in loose sheets. J A Birchall decided that it would be a good idea to cut the sheets into half, back them with cardboard and glue them together at the top.

1903 Froth flotation process- The process of separating minerals from rock by flotation was developed by Charles Potter and Guillaume Delprat of New South Wales.

1906 Feature film - The world's first feature length film, The Story of the Kelly Gang, was a little over an hour long.

1906 Surf life-saving reel - The first surf life-saving reel in the world was demonstrated at Bondi Beach on 23 December 1906 by its designer Lester Ormsby.

1910 Humespun process -The Humespun process was developed by Walter Hume of Humes Ltd for making concrete pipes of high strength and low permeability. The process revolutionised pipe manufacture in 1910 and has since been used around the world.

1912 The tank - A South Australian named Lance de Mole submitted a proposal, to the British War Office, for a 'chain-rail vehicle which could be easily steered and carry heavy loads over rough ground and trenches'. The British war office liked the idea but then developed the tank themselves without paying royalties.

1913 Automatic totalisator -The world's first automatic totalisator for calculating horse-racing bets was made by Sir George Julius.

1917 Aspro - A pain reliever based on aspirin was developed in Melbourne by George Nicholas. By 1940 it had become the world's most widely used headache and pain treatment.

1922 Vegemite - One of the world's richest sources of vitamin B, vegemite was invented by Dr. Cyril P. Callister. It is made by the autolysis of expired brewer's yeast: a process where the yeast's own enzymes break it down.

1924 Car radio - The first car radio was fitted to an Australian car built by Kellys Motors in New South Wales.

1927 Speedo -In 1927 Speedo launched the revolutionary 'racer-back' style, which reduced fabric drag. In 1955, Speedo introduced the use of nylon for their racing swimwear. At the 1968, 1972 and 1976 Olympics, more than 70 per cent of all swimming medals were won by competitors wearing Speedo.

1928 Flying Doctor Service - Reverend John Flynn founded the world's first Aerial Medical Service in 1928.

1934 Ute- The utility vehicle, with a front like a car and a rear like a truck was designed by Lewis Brandt at the Ford Motor Company in Geelong, Victoria.

1940 Zinc Cream - This white sun block made from zinc oxide was developed by the Fauldings pharmaceutical company.
1942 Transverse folding stroller - Designed by Harold Cornish, the sturdy, lightweight design of his Stoway Strollers made life easier for many parents using public transport as it could be folded and placed under a tram seat.

1944 Antibiotic penicillin- Produced by Howard Florey with help from a Pome named Ernst Chain.
1945 The Hills Hoist - A rotary clothes line with a winding mechanism allowing the frame to be lowered and raised with ease. Invented by Lance Hill.

1952 Victor mower - by Mervyn Victor Richardson, the two-stroke petrol lawn mower with rotary blades revolutionised mowing world wide.

1950s Lagerphone- The lagerphone is a musical instrument made by nailing beer caps onto a stick. It is not known who invented it, but in the 50s it was popularised by the Heathcote Bushwackers as an alternative to the American wobbleboard.

1952 Atomic absorption spectrophotometer -Atomic absorption spectrophotometer is a complex analytical instrument incorporating micro-computer electronics and precision optics and mechanics, used in chemical analysis to determine low concentrations of metals in a wide variety of substances. It was first developed by Sir Alan Walsh of the CSIRO.

1953 Solar hot water - Developed by R N Morse at the CSIRO

1957 Flame ionisation detector -The flame ionisation detector is one of the most accurate instruments ever developed for the detection of emissions. It was invented by Ian McWilliam. The instrument, which can measure one part in 10 million, has been used in chemical analysis in the petrochemical industry, medical and biochemical research, and in the monitoring of the environment.

1957 Trousers with a permeant crease - The process for producing permanently creased fabric was invented by Dr Arthur Farnworth of the CSIRO.

1958 Black box flight recorder - The 'black box' voice and instrument data recorder was invented by Dr David Warren in Melbourne.

1960 Plastic spectacle lenses - The world's first plastic spectacle lenses, 60 per cent lighter than glass lenses, were designed by Scientific Optical Laboratories.

1961 Ultrasound - David Robinson and George Kossoff's work at the Australian Department of Health, resulted in the first commercially practical water path ultrasonic scanner in 1961.

1965 Inflatable escape slide - The inflatable aircraft escape slide which doubles as a raft was invented by Jack Grant of Qantas.

1965 Wine cask -Invented by Thomas Angrove, the wine cask is a cardboard box housing a plastic container which collapses as the wine is drawn off, thus preventing contact with air.

1970 Variable rack and pinion steering - The variable ratio rack and pinion steering in motor vehicles was invented by Australian engineer, Arthur Bishop.

1970 Staysharp knife- The self-sharpening knife was developed by Wiltshire.

1972 Orbital internal combustion engine - The orbital combustion process engine was invented by engineer Ralph Sarich of Perth, Western Australia.

1972- Instream analysis - To speed-up analysis of metals during the recovery process, which used to take up to 24 hours, Amdel Limited developed an on-the-spot analysis equipment called the In-Stream Analysis System, for the processing of copper, zinc, lead and platinum - and the washing of coal. This computerised system allowed continuous analysis of key metals and meant greater productivity for the mineral industry worldwide.

1978 Plastic injection moulding software -Engineers at Moldflow Pty Ltd revolutionised the plastic injection process with a new computer aided engineering software, that simulated the injection moulding process and offered a design strategy to evaluate, refine and optimise successive simulations. The technique has been used widely in the automotive, whitegoods, computer, packaging, communications, aeronautical and photographic industries.

1979 Race-cam - Race Cam was developed by Geoff Healey, an engineer with Australian Television Network Seven in Sydney. The tiny lightweight camera is used in sports broadcasts and provides viewers with spectacular views of events such as motor racing, which are impossible with conventional cameras

1979 Bionic ear - The cochlear implant was invented by Professor Graeme Clark of the University of Melbourne.

1982 The dual flush toilet - As dunnies have a celebrated status in Australia, it is apt that Australia has taken a central role in their evolution. In 1982, the dual flush toilet was responsible for savings in excess of 32000 litres of water per household a year. Pretty important in the world's dries inhabited continent.

1980 Wave-piercing catamarans - The high speed catamarans were developed by Phillip Hercus and Robert Clifford of Incat in Tasmania.

1983 Winged Keel - Ben Lexen designed a winged keel that helped Australia II end the American's 132 ownership of the America's cup. The keel gave the yacht better steering and manoeuvrability in heavy winds.

1984 Frozen embryo baby- The world's first frozen embryo baby was born in Melbourne on 28th March 1984

1984 Baby Safety Capsule - Babies in a car crash used to bounce around like a soccer ball. In 1984, for the first time babies had a harness for their safe transportation in cars.

1986 Gene shears - The discovery of gene shears was made by CSIRO scientists, Wayne Gerlach and Jim Haseloff.

1992 Multi-focal contact lens- The world's first multi-focal contact lens was invented by optical research scientist, Stephen Newman in Queensland.

1992 Supersonic combustion - The University of Queensland demonstrated the world's first supersonic combustion in an atmospheric flight test at Woomera on July 30, 2002. The craft reached speeds of more than Mach 8, or 8 times the speed of sound.

1993 Scramjet - The University of Queensland reported for the first time the development of a scramjet that achieved more thrust than drag.

1993 Underwater pc - The world's first underwater computer with a five-button hand-held keypad was developed by Bruce Macdonald at the Australian Institute of Marine Science.

1995 EXELGRAM - The world's most sophisticated optical anti-counterfeiting technology was developed by the CSIRO.

1995 - Jindalee Radar System - The United States of America spent $11 billion developing an aeroplane that could not be detected by radar. Scientists at the CSIRO then concluded that if the plane could not be detected, perhaps the turbulance it makes passing through air could be. $1.5 million later, the Jindalee Radar system had transformed the stealth bomber into nothing more than an unusual looking aircraft.


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Subject: RE: BS: Inventions 'claimed' to be American
From: freda underhill
Date: 02 Jan 06 - 07:20 PM

..and..

Australia was the first place in the world to have a secret ballot in elections (1856)
Australia was the first place in the world to give women the vote. (1894)
Torrens Title. An Australian invented the worlds first method of land registration. Now in use by many countries around the world.


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Subject: RE: BS: Inventions 'claimed' to be American
From: robomatic
Date: 02 Jan 06 - 08:27 PM

Freda, I'm impressed: Makes me want to empty the prisons of America and settle 'em somwhere and wait for the genius to manifest itself!


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Subject: RE: BS: Inventions 'claimed' to be American
From: freda underhill
Date: 03 Jan 06 - 06:11 AM

There are a lot of advantages to our convict heritage, robomatic! Australians don't respect authority much, are skeptical, and our heroes are decent types like Ned Kelly or Louisa Lawson .


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Subject: RE: BS: Inventions 'claimed' to be American
From: Pied Piper
Date: 03 Jan 06 - 07:45 AM

Licat Volari Si Super Tergum Aquila Volat

PP


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Subject: RE: BS: Inventions 'claimed' to be American
From: freda underhill
Date: 03 Jan 06 - 08:11 AM

Amicule, deliciae, num is sum qui mentiar tibi?

FU


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Subject: RE: BS: Inventions 'claimed' to be American
From: GUEST,Paranoid Android
Date: 03 Jan 06 - 10:39 AM

All of these guys were Irish - anything for the price of a pint !!!!


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Subject: RE: BS: Inventions 'claimed' to be American
From: GUEST,clogger
Date: 03 Jan 06 - 08:54 PM

sorry ROBO Mr Von Braun built the first liquid rockets! They used a peroxide solution ( not too popular with the flight crew as you tended to burst into flames if you spilt any on anything organic)!
Granted that given the choice he surrendered to the Americans with most of his reserch papers! He went on to develop the Saturn 5 Rockets that went to the moon.
The point I wished to highlight was that many inventions are "hijacked" by vested interests and the original inventor ignored.
I would look foreward to any inteligent discourse on this or indeed any other related matter. You are now entering my faveourite playground.... WELCOME! Incidentaly were not troll's an english invention (lol)


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Subject: RE: BS: Inventions 'claimed' to be American
From: GUEST,clogger
Date: 05 Jan 06 - 06:17 AM

Ok. Let's turn this one around .... are there any American inventions Hijacked by others? Or even other "inventions" claimed by bogus inventees of any nationality


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Subject: RE: BS: Inventions 'claimed' to be American
From: manitas_at_work
Date: 05 Jan 06 - 08:35 AM

Guglielmo Marconi was born at Bologna, Italy, on April 25, 1874, the second son of Giuseppe Marconi, an Italian country gentleman, and Annie Jameson, daughter of Andrew Jameson of Daphne Castle in the County Wexford, Ireland.

From Nobel Lectures, Physics 1901-1921, Elsevier Publishing Company, Amsterdam, 1967

" Football may have been inspired by the Aboriginal jumping/kicking game of Marn Grook" - Football has been played in England for centuries but hadn't been codified until the 19th Century - it's more likely that the rules were based on kickabout versions of the game.

Vegemite is but a pale shadow of MArmite invented in 1902.

1869: Britain grants unmarried women who are householders the right to vote in local elections. http://womenshistory.about.com/od/suffrage/a/intl_timeline.htm
And, to be even-handed, from the same site:
1776: New Jersey gives the vote to women owning more than $250. Later the state reconsidered and women were no longer allowed to vote. (more)

1837: Kentucky gives some women suffrage in school elections. (source)

1861: Kansas enters the Union; the new state gives its women the right to vote in local school elections.

1869: Wyoming territory constitution grants women the right to vote and to hold public office. (more more)

1870: Utah territory gives full suffrage to women. (more)

1893: The male electorate in Colorado votes "yes" on woman suffrage. (more more)

1894: Some cities in Kentucky and Ohio give women the vote in school board elections. (more)


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Subject: RE: BS: Inventions 'claimed' to be American
From: Shields Folk
Date: 05 Jan 06 - 04:15 PM

Joseph Swann invented the light bulb everyone knows that


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Subject: RE: BS: Inventions 'claimed' to be American
From: GUEST,petr
Date: 05 Jan 06 - 11:15 PM

charles babbage's analytical engine was never built as the technology
to make the precision gears and clockwork didnt exist at the time.
But theoretically it fit the definition of a computer which had memory
and was able to execute program instructions.
In fact you could say the first programmer was his girlfriend Ada Lovelace (Byrons daughter) who came up with the idea of using loops as part of program instructions.

supposedly the British Collossus computer which was used in Bletchley park for codebreaking predated the American computers the Mark 1 and Eniac.

basketball was invented in Canada.


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Subject: RE: BS: Inventions 'claimed' to be American
From: Manitas_at_home
Date: 06 Jan 06 - 02:03 AM

I believe the analytical engine was built a few years ago, but obviously not by Babbage as he was dead. The Victorians didn't have the precision required.


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Subject: RE: BS: Inventions 'claimed' to be American
From: GUEST
Date: 06 Jan 06 - 05:35 AM

Wasn't New Zealand the first country to grant women universal suffrage?

The lagerphone is hardly an invention just a badly made version of the Central European "devil's fiddle".

Seems strange that refigeration was invented after the refrigerator!

Didn't the original juggernaught (or similar) have differential gears hundreds (if not thousands) of years ago?

It's not surprising really that Aussie Rules Football was invented in Australia.

I could go on but I'm bored now


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Subject: RE: BS: Inventions 'claimed' to be American
From: Ebbie
Date: 06 Jan 06 - 12:32 PM

I would much prefer having people celebrate people's achievements. And while applauding the good they have accomplished recognize the harmful uses to which many of these things have been put.


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Subject: RE: BS: Inventions 'claimed' to be American
From: Don(Wyziwyg)T
Date: 06 Jan 06 - 08:40 PM

From: GUEST,clogger - PM
Date: 01 Jan 06 - 12:22 PM

Please! I did say Rocket ENGINE!(German)
As far as I am concerned rockets are a type of firework (Chineese)
GUNPOWDER (English)however is a totaly diferent thing!
HAPPY 2006 ... Have a good one!

Sorry to spoil your argument Clogger, but the Chinese used gunpowder to make those fireworks lomg before there was an England....Fact.

Don T.


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Subject: RE: BS: Inventions 'claimed' to be American
From: Don(Wyziwyg)T
Date: 06 Jan 06 - 08:50 PM

BTW, as evidence that England was not the home of the inventor, the first person shot with a firearm, was at the battle of Agincourt, and if memory serves the guy on the back end of that was French.

The English won that battle with their vastly superior longbows.

Don T.


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Subject: RE: BS: Inventions 'claimed' to be American
From: Arnie
Date: 07 Jan 06 - 10:23 AM

I'm sure I read somewhere that the first powered flight took place in Yorkshire - and I'm not just saying that because of my Tyke roots. Must look into this a bit further....


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Subject: RE: BS: Inventions 'claimed' to be American
From: danensis
Date: 07 Jan 06 - 11:31 AM

Yes as I recall the hooray henry who paid for the kite was so nervous that he ordered one of his lackeys to actually fly the thing.


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Subject: RE: BS: Inventions 'claimed' to be American
From: danensis
Date: 07 Jan 06 - 12:18 PM

Here we are:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/3042182.stm

"In 1853, Sir George's coachman was ordered to take to the skies at Brompton-by-Sawdon, near Scarborough.

After his alarming experience of air travel, a shocked John Appleby faced his employer.

"Please, Sir George, I wish to give notice," he said. "I was hired to drive and not to fly."

The servant may not have appreciated it, but he had just made history by completing the first manned flight in a fixed-wing aircraft".


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Subject: RE: BS: Inventions 'claimed' to be American
From: Les from Hull
Date: 07 Jan 06 - 12:42 PM

Guns were first used in 1346 at Crecy - by the English. They were first mentioned in 1327.


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Subject: RE: BS: Inventions 'claimed' to be American
From: GUEST,clogger
Date: 07 Jan 06 - 02:12 PM

Don T ..... The powder that the chineese used for their fireworks was not Gun Powder but a very similar mixture developed as a longivity drug. They did not have the knowledge to refine Saltpetre.
Apparently the best Saltpetre was derived from the urine of a Bishop!
Gunpowder is saltpetre,charcoal and sulpher.


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Subject: RE: BS: Inventions 'claimed' to be American
From: GUEST,petr
Date: 07 Jan 06 - 03:05 PM

of course the chinese invented gunpowder..
it is also odd that the european appearance of gunpowder would be exactly the right mixture of saltpetre, charcoal and sulphur
that the chinese were using. I will say that the Europeans were more successful in making guns.

(the chinese got saltpetre by collecting pigs urine and drying it)


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Subject: RE: BS: Inventions 'claimed' to be American
From: Don(Wyziwyg)T
Date: 08 Jan 06 - 11:28 AM

Thank you Petr, you saved me having to argue that one.

Don T.


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Subject: RE: BS: Inventions 'claimed' to be American
From: JohnInKansas
Date: 09 Jan 06 - 02:19 AM

Although it's not really indexed and systematic enough for research, those interested in history and invention might find some value in glancing at
I seem to recall an earlier issue - many months ago - that documented the chicken farmer who built the first "computer linkup" that allowed him to report his monthly expenses direct to the corporate computer (without permission, initially, from corporate management). Little things along with the big.

Do other nations/regions/locales have anything similar? - Especially web accessible?

John


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Subject: RE: BS: Inventions 'claimed' to be American
From: autolycus
Date: 09 Jan 06 - 05:35 AM

Interesting how this discussion has gone.
There is something appealing about lists by nationality and about misattribution. I agree that what's more important is who made the discovery than their nationality.
What's been missing for me are the sources of the information, otherwise anyone can assert anything, a real weakness on the net(and not just the net).
I haven't given myself the time to consult my books of firsts, of inventions, chronologies, dictionaries of dates.
Just one correction. That "shoulders of giants" quotation. It is in a letter of Newton's. And a 12th century writer said Bernard of Chartres(died c.1130) used to say it. However Burton in his Anatomy of Melancholy quoted Lucan (39-65 A.D.)saying that one Didacus Stella, a Roman general (fl.50 B.C.E.) said "Pigmies placed on the shoulders of giants see more than the giants themselves"(The Latin is given in Burton Stevenson's Book of Quotations), and Didacus is also fingered in Bartlett's 14th.

As Michael Caine might still say,"Not a lot of people know that", apparently including Lord Melvyn Barg.
And as Karl Popper would say,Science doesn't prove anything - what we "know" is just whatever has not yet been disproved.

Happy Hannukah and Happy New Year.

Autolycos


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Subject: RE: BS: Inventions 'claimed' to be American
From: JohnInKansas
Date: 09 Jan 06 - 08:45 AM

When I clicked to preview my last "post" above, I got a locked up browser, and assumed I'd lost my connection. Going back to the main page I couldn't get anything to load, so I assumed that the 'cat was doing maintenance or was very busy.

I now see that my "preview" turned into a post that badly needed a preview. What it was supposed to say was:

Although it's not really indexed and systematic enough for research, those interested in history and invention might find some value in glancing at American Heritage of Invention and Technology. I've found them apparently credible with respect to giving credit to precursors, and they do come up with some pretty strange stuff. The current issue features the special effects for the 1933 King Kong movie, along with the history of the "flexible sipping straw."

I seem to recall an earlier issue - many months ago - that documented the chicken farmer who built the first "computer linkup" that allowed him to report his monthly expenses direct to the corporate computer (without permission, initially, from corporate management). Little things along with the big.

Do other nations/regions/locales have anything similar? - Especially web accessible?

John


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Subject: RE: BS: Inventions 'claimed' to be American
From: Bunnahabhain
Date: 09 Jan 06 - 12:51 PM

Don't you know, anything with a dramatic enough story was invented by an American, preferably a photogenic one.

Or at least that's what Hollywood says....


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Subject: RE: BS: Inventions 'claimed' to be American
From: GUEST,Clogger
Date: 09 Jan 06 - 07:13 PM

Information about English gunpowder came from "New Scientist", in the last 2 months but unable to put my hand on the issue right now.


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Subject: RE: BS: Inventions 'claimed' to be American
From: robomatic
Date: 10 Jan 06 - 01:56 AM

Clogger:

Reason i said you was a troll was because of your obvious predilection to write without checking. Return to the subject of first liquid fuel rocket and if you bother to actually research it you will find that the first liquid fueled rocket was launched on a farm in Massachusetts in 1926 before Herr Von Braun ("when rockets go up who cares where they come down, that's not my department") even took up rocketry well aware of the work of Robert Goddard.

As for solid fuel rockets, they date back to those gunpowder inventors, the Chinese.


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Subject: RE: BS: Inventions 'claimed' to be American
From: Skivee
Date: 10 Jan 06 - 01:20 PM

My 2 cents...plus some.
Von Braun did not invent the liquid fuel rocket engine.
This was invented by Robert Hutchins Goddard, an American scientist, in the 20s.
He started with a crude alcohol and liquid oxygen rocket with a strange design. The exhaust nozzle was at the top!
This allowed the lower fuel tanks to act as a crude inertial stabilization system, with the weight of the lower section hanging under the thrust source.
He later developed liquid fuel rockets with the thrust chamber at the lower section, gyro stabilization, and vectoring thrust with vanes deflecting the exhaust as needed to correct direction.

Von Braun and his friends started a research club that was primarily interested in advancing rocketry. Much of their work was based directly on Goddards work; both Von Braun and Wiley Ley said exactly that in numerous writings. If pressed I can provide documentation.
VB and company used RHG's research as a starting point to develop larger more practicle vehicles; first for scientific interest, then for military uses.
I have seen films from both early Goddard experiments and the Germans.
Goddard was first...but if he hadn't, someone else would have.
They both had rockets that failed on the pad, blew up, went unstable.
They both had early liquid fuel rocket that went thousands of feet into the sky.
They both turned towards military applications as the Second World War approached. They both were annoyed that their efforts were repeatedly ignored by their governments.
Goddard invented the bazooka.
Von Braun made the V-2s arc to England.
The power of Urban Legendry not withstanding, Sir George's was not likely the first manned flying. Look to the Chinese with their huge kites for that honor. His claim is one of many loosely documented events that propose to knock the Wrights off their pedestal.
What the Wright's did was to combine carefully researched wing shapes, a superb engine for power, a workable control system. Their lab work is well documented.
\ A goodly amount of their work was inspired by early German glider builders.
All of these craft were barely controllable. Dozens of would-be pilots died in many countries.
Two more items: For a slightly cockeyed look at the world of early winged aircraft in England, one might do well to watch the film, "Those Magnificent Men In Their Flying Machines". If you strip away the lame plot, it gives a strange view of the events that occurred at Brooklands in Weybridge.
If you know when to look, you can see the banked track of the Brooklands racecourse in the background of incidental shots behind the hangers sheds.
The Benny Hill character, "The Fire Chief", was REAL.
Fairey, Avro, Vickers, Hawker, Sopwith and many other great names in British aviation development made great strides after their dips into the nourishing waters of Brookland's sewage pond.
Lastly, NO-ONE SHOULD EVER LEARN HISTORY FROM HOLLYWOOD.
A single viewing of "Pearl Harbor" should be all one needs to convince one of this truth.


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Subject: RE: BS: Inventions 'claimed' to be American
From: GUEST,Clogger
Date: 10 Jan 06 - 02:47 PM

Apologies! It would appear that I am wrong about the Rocket engine!
I am now a humbler and wiser person for it ....... thanks.


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Subject: RE: BS: Inventions 'claimed' to be American
From: Skivee
Date: 10 Jan 06 - 07:49 PM

And I apologize for the double post!
After I hit the "submit message" button, the dreaded "site not communicating" page showed up.
I reposted hours later and didn't check.
It must have been an error in the part of the internet that All- American Al Gore invented.
(Al's my man, but i had to go there.)


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Subject: RE: BS: Inventions 'claimed' to be American
From: robomatic
Date: 11 Jan 06 - 06:38 AM

Not to mention repeating the content of my post. This information is well known to every American teen interested in science and readily retrievable on the web from someone interested in marshaling facts and not soliciting rancor.


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Subject: RE: BS: Inventions 'claimed' to be American
From: Skivee
Date: 11 Jan 06 - 11:36 AM

Well, it looks like I'm just Mr. Apology today.
Robomatic, I didn't see your post before posting my info.
I seem to be missing posts for some reason.
But at least we can both take some satisfaction in the mutual support.
...And now more folks know what the "H" stood for.
Cheers


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Subject: RE: BS: Inventions 'claimed' to be American
From: GUEST
Date: 12 Jan 06 - 03:11 PM

poo


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Subject: RE: BS: Inventions 'claimed' to be American
From: NH Dave
Date: 13 Jan 06 - 12:49 AM

I'm going to disagree with a couple of the famous Aussi inventions listed above. I don't know if staysharp is a trade name or just the generic term for a knife that doesn't require sharpening, but the latter was developed in the late 50's - early 60's by a pair of scientists or engineers from Dartmouth College, who had done a lot of work with plasma torches in the mid 50's.   They'd knocked up a bunch of kitchen knives with a thin coating of tungsten carbide sprayed onto one side of the blade of a cheap kitchen knife, as a souvenir of a visit to their plant. As the blade wore, the thin tungsten carbide layer became the cutting edge. The second was the multiple focus contact, if I understood the concept correctly. These were available in the UK back in the early 70's, so could not have been invented by the Aussies in '92.

Dave


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Subject: RE: BS: Inventions 'claimed' to be American
From: JohnInKansas
Date: 13 Jan 06 - 04:41 AM

1924 Car radio - The first car radio was fitted to an Australian car built by Kellys Motors in New South Wales.

???

William Lear formed the Quincy Radio Laboratory in 1922, in part to produce his automobile radio, based on prototypes (practical and working) that he already had produced and sold in limited numbers. Unable to produce it himself in quantities sufficent for mass marketing, he sold his invention in 1924, later making the Motorola Corporation famous.

Maybe the Kelly was the first with a "factory installed" (perhaps a Motorola?) radio?

Or something.

John


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Subject: RE: BS: Inventions 'claimed' to be American
From: GUEST,ethan
Date: 07 Jun 06 - 11:12 AM

the very first paint roller


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Subject: RE: BS: Inventions 'claimed' to be American
From: number 6
Date: 07 Jun 06 - 11:57 AM

God.

sIx


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Subject: RE: BS: Inventions 'claimed' to be American
From: Ebbie
Date: 07 Jun 06 - 11:58 AM

The listed information about the gramaphone is a tad misleading. Invented in 1888, the name itself given it by Berliner derived from the inverted earlier 'phonograph.'

"The phonograph was the worlds first audio recording device. It was invented in 1877 by the American Thomas Edison (1847-1931)."

Edison first used wax cylinders; Berliner first used the flat disc (rubber, not wax)


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Subject: RE: BS: Inventions 'claimed' to be American
From: robomatic
Date: 07 Jun 06 - 05:48 PM

From "That Was The Week That Was" Words and Music By Tom Lehrer

Gather 'round while I sing you of Wernher von Braun,
A man whose allegiance
Is ruled by expedience.
Call him a Nazi, he won't even frown,
"Ha, Nazi, Schmazi," says Wernher von Braun.

Don't say that he's hypocritical,
Say rather that he's apolitical.
"Once the rockets are up, who cares where they come down?
That's not my department," says Wernher von Braun.

Some have harsh words for this man of renown,
But some think our attitude
Should be one of gratitude,
Like the widows and cripples in old London town,
Who owe their large pensions to Wernher von Braun.

You too may be a big hero,
Once you've learned to count backwards to zero.
"In German oder English I know how to count down,
Und I'm learning Chinese!" says Wernher von Braun.


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Subject: RE: BS: Inventions 'claimed' to be American
From: GUEST,Andrew
Date: 07 Jun 06 - 10:28 PM

I think Leonardo Davinci was the greatest inventor given the times he lived in.

People are still discovering original ideas in his drwaings and sketches.


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Subject: RE: BS: Inventions 'claimed' to be American
From: number 6
Date: 07 Jun 06 - 10:34 PM

Andrew ... Certainly not disputing the claim that he was the greatest inventor inf history .... but what inventions of his are American's claiming as theirs?

sIx


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Subject: RE: BS: Inventions 'claimed' to be American
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 07 Jun 06 - 10:37 PM

... except he was referring to many older unpreserved Greek documents...


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Subject: RE: BS: Inventions 'claimed' to be American
From: Little Hawk
Date: 07 Jun 06 - 10:46 PM

I invented Chongo Chimp. (and a number of other fictional characters)

I am not an American. ;-)


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Subject: RE: BS: Inventions 'claimed' to be American
From: number 6
Date: 07 Jun 06 - 10:48 PM

Chongo Chimp ... a Canadian embarrassment.

sIx


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Subject: RE: BS: Inventions 'claimed' to be American
From: GUEST,Andrew
Date: 07 Jun 06 - 10:49 PM

Sorry I forgot you have an anti-american axe to grind. I withdraw my post.


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Subject: RE: BS: Inventions 'claimed' to be American
From: Little Hawk
Date: 07 Jun 06 - 10:55 PM

The better you grind it, the sharper it gets.


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Subject: RE: BS: Inventions 'claimed' to be American
From: GUEST,Andrew
Date: 07 Jun 06 - 10:59 PM

The existence of WMD's in Iraq.


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Subject: RE: BS: Inventions 'claimed' to be American
From: number 6
Date: 07 Jun 06 - 11:00 PM

Oh no ... you gotta be serious.

sIx


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Subject: RE: BS: Inventions 'claimed' to be American
From: GUEST,Andrew
Date: 07 Jun 06 - 11:01 PM

Arrogant assholes.


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Subject: RE: BS: Inventions 'claimed' to be American
From: Little Hawk
Date: 07 Jun 06 - 11:06 PM

How about those inventions NOT claimed to be American...such as:

A secret worldwide terrorist organization called Al Queda?

A plan to very efficiently knock down the World Trade Center Towers in a mere couple of hours, just like a controlled demolition?


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Subject: RE: BS: Inventions 'claimed' to be American
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 07 Jun 06 - 11:09 PM

"Arrogant assholes."

Nope - the Romans invented them... they too had the most powerful army...


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Subject: RE: BS: Inventions 'claimed' to be American
From: GUEST,Andrew
Date: 07 Jun 06 - 11:12 PM

Every problem in the world.


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Subject: RE: BS: Inventions 'claimed' to be American
From: number 6
Date: 07 Jun 06 - 11:14 PM

"Arrogant assholes." ... I thought that was specifically reserved for the French.

sIx


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Subject: RE: BS: Inventions 'claimed' to be American
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 07 Jun 06 - 11:22 PM

Well the French do have strong Roman historical ties... :-)


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Subject: RE: BS: Inventions 'claimed' to be American
From: GUEST,Andrew
Date: 07 Jun 06 - 11:38 PM

People that are jealous of a neighbor that has more than they do.


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Subject: RE: BS: Inventions 'claimed' to be American
From: GUEST,Andrew
Date: 09 Jun 06 - 01:13 PM

Indian abuse


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Subject: RE: BS: Inventions 'claimed' to be American
From: Ed T
Date: 01 May 14 - 03:16 PM

shipping ice


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Subject: RE: BS: Inventions 'claimed' to be American
From: GUEST,Mrr the trekkie
Date: 01 May 14 - 07:32 PM

Quatrotriticale. It's a russian inwention.


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Subject: RE: BS: Inventions 'claimed' to be American
From: Gibb Sahib
Date: 01 May 14 - 08:02 PM

Subject: BS:
From: GUEST,Clogger - PM
Date: 30 Dec 05 - 07:06 PM

There is a popular misconception that certain things were invented by our American cousins when in fact they WERE NOT!


I don't care what nation things were invented in, per se.

However, I am an American and I am NOT your cousin. Do you think the people living in every nation with which Britain has had a colonial relationship are Englishmen's "cousins"?

Or did you really mean to specify inventions by people of American nationality that are your and an unspecified 1st person plural's cousins?


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Subject: RE: BS: Inventions 'claimed' to be American
From: Jeri
Date: 01 May 14 - 08:17 PM

You seriously trying to pick a fight with somebody who posted nine years ago?


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Subject: RE: BS: Inventions 'claimed' to be American
From: GUEST,Don Firth
Date: 01 May 14 - 08:19 PM

Guglielmo Marconi invented Marconi and cheese. Kraft foods dishonestly lays claim to the invention.

Don Firth (You heard it here first).


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Subject: RE: BS: Inventions 'claimed' to be American
From: Ed T
Date: 01 May 14 - 08:52 PM

And, Alexander Graham Bell invented Graham crackers.


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Subject: RE: BS: Inventions 'claimed' to be American
From: GUEST,CS
Date: 02 May 14 - 02:27 AM

Not claimed as an invention as such, but asserted as a uniquely distinguishing feature of American identity. Apple pie. As in "American as apple pie" which I always find somewhat bizarre considering the ubiquity of apple pie throughout Europe and probably the world in general. America can lay claim to some great pies too, why pick on apple pie?


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Subject: RE: BS: Inventions 'claimed' to be American
From: Seamus Kennedy
Date: 02 May 14 - 03:28 PM

Ed T - I thought he invented Bell helicopters. And his Ragtime Band was a joy to listen to.


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Subject: RE: BS: Inventions 'claimed' to be American
From: Uncle_DaveO
Date: 02 May 14 - 05:32 PM

per Freda Underhill:

1917 Aspro - A pain reliever based on aspirin was developed in Melbourne by George Nicholas. By 1940 it had become the world's most widely used headache and pain treatment.

The word "aspirin" should be rendered as "Aspirin", inasmuch as it was a trademark for acetylsalicilic (sp ??) acid, and thus the actual substance called "Aspirin" necessarily existed before that trademark was coined and owned by Bayer. If George Nicholas developed a pain reliever based on Aspirin, he didn't invent Aspirin (or aspirin), though he may have created a derivative compound of medical and thus commercial value.

Aspirin was what might be called the original wonder drug, with benefits in pain relief, fever treatment, blood thinning, and some other advantages. It was so valuable and so widely popular that the name was popularly thought to represent a generic substance, and so the trademark value of "Aspirin" was lost, long after 1917 and George Nicholas. Much to Bayer's chagrin.

Dave Oesterreich


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Subject: RE: BS: Inventions 'claimed' to be American
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 02 May 14 - 07:32 PM

My grandparents would only use "genuine Bayer Aspirin." Now some 70 years later, I only buy Bayer Aspirin by habit.
I think the trademark value held up in the minds of many people.

I remember when Bayer Aspirin came with a folder of instructions in many languages, including Yiddish. As a child, I would compare these little instructions and try to pronounce the words.


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Subject: RE: BS: Inventions 'claimed' to be American
From: GUEST,Skivee-guesting in
Date: 03 May 14 - 04:42 PM

So, Q, the instruction were a Rosetta stone for future pharma-archeologists


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Subject: RE: BS: Inventions 'claimed' to be American
From: Ebbie
Date: 03 May 14 - 09:11 PM

You know, I think the title would be more accurate if it said "Inventions *believed* to be American- by Americans."

When you look up just about any of those listed inventions, it gives a correct attribution.

Somehow we - or at least, I know that I frequently do- at some stage become so familiar with a historical person or fact I just assume it came from our part of our world. In other words we don't claim it on purpose or out of malice or avidity.

(Other times, claims become more problematic. For instance, Alexander G Bell was born in Scotland, grew up in Canada, lived and worked and became famous in the USA, had a home in both Canada and the US, died in Canada. So just what was he?)


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Subject: RE: BS: Inventions 'claimed' to be American
From: Ed T
Date: 03 May 14 - 09:24 PM

In addition to determining where inventers were from, there is the issue of the first of a kind, versus the first practicle version,and of what is use today. The chain saw is an example.

chain saw


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Subject: RE: BS: Inventions 'claimed' to be American
From: Ed T
Date: 03 May 14 - 09:29 PM

Sometimes a better product never takes off, other times they do. This axe may, or may not , replace the very old version.

new axe


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Subject: RE: BS: Inventions 'claimed' to be American
From: Ebbie
Date: 04 May 14 - 03:07 AM

Wish they had shown the person wielding the Leveraxe. I wonder if it takes an overhead swing or a hatchet type?


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Subject: RE: BS: Inventions 'claimed' to be American
From: GUEST,Musket
Date: 04 May 14 - 03:17 AM

We visited Bletchley Park a few weeks ago.

Wonderful how for many many years our cousins claimed to have invented the computer, and sincerely believed it. The Official Secrets Act kept our code breaking ex telephone exchange quiet till a few years ago.

I was fascinated to see a reconstruction in use and working.

We could discuss whether the Babbage differential engine was a computer too, but the honours stay here I suppose.

Fairs fair. The USA is the only place I have seen cheese sold in a spray can. Although I suspect they are available in parts of Canada too....


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Subject: RE: BS: Inventions 'claimed' to be American
From: Ed T
Date: 04 May 14 - 07:25 AM

Go to the end of the firs video of the leveraxe. There are additional videos showing various chopping swings.


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Subject: RE: BS: Inventions 'claimed' to be American
From: GUEST,The Howler
Date: 04 May 14 - 04:23 PM

Al Gore invented the internet, or so he said. Stupid bastard.


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Subject: RE: BS: Inventions 'claimed' to be American
From: Ebbie
Date: 04 May 14 - 04:25 PM

Good gracious, the Howler. Stupidity comes in many forms.


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Subject: RE: BS: Inventions 'claimed' to be American
From: GUEST,The Howler
Date: 04 May 14 - 04:33 PM

Ebbie, what is your malfunction?

Al Gore is a huckster of the highest order. Clear enough?


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Subject: RE: BS: Inventions 'claimed' to be American
From: Ebbie
Date: 04 May 14 - 10:02 PM

Thing is, Gore never said anything close to that. To the degree that he did, his assessment was accurate. (How come the Howler's aura seems so familiar?)


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Subject: RE: BS: Inventions 'claimed' to be American
From: GUEST
Date: 05 May 14 - 06:29 AM

Browsing recently I came across an Anthology of American Poets and was a bit surprised to see William Shakespeare in there ...


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Subject: RE: BS: Inventions 'claimed' to be American
From: Ed T
Date: 05 May 14 - 07:25 AM

invention myths


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Subject: RE: BS: Inventions 'claimed' to be American
From: GUEST,Troubadour
Date: 05 May 14 - 08:13 AM

"People that are jealous of a neighbor that has more than they do."

Plenty of those in the UK too Andrew! Mostly Labour voters..


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Subject: RE: BS: Inventions 'claimed' to be American
From: GUEST,McMusket
Date: 05 May 14 - 12:31 PM

Careful Troubadour.... You'll wake up the chippy armchair socialists. It's hard to balance a flute of Bollinger on your lap whilst fending off their posts....


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Subject: RE: BS: Inventions 'claimed' to be American
From: Ebbie
Date: 05 May 14 - 02:33 PM

OK. Now I want to see lists of inventions and innovations erroneously claimed by some other nations and peoples.

(I'm not sure why - maybe an inherent bias?- but the link posted by you, Ed T, about false claims by African Americans is disturbing to me.)


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Subject: RE: BS: Inventions 'claimed' to be American
From: eddie1
Date: 05 May 14 - 02:34 PM

As a Scot, I am naturally modest about myself and all things Scottish but this may be of interest!
"The typical Englishman finishes his breakfast of toast and MARMALADE invented by Mrs. Keiller of Dundee, Scotland- and slips into his RAINCOAT patented by Charles MacIntosh of Glasgow, Scotland, he walks to his office along an English lane which is surfaced by TARMAC, invented by John MacAdam of Ayr, Scotland - or he drives his English car which is fitted with PNEUMATIC TYRES patented by John Boyd Dunlop of Dreghorn, Scotland
Before he acquired a car he used to travel to the office by train which was powered by a STEAM ENGINE that was invented by James Watt of Greenock, Scotland.
In his office he deals with the mail bearing ADHESIVE STAMPS invented by James Chalmers of Dundee, Scotland. He lights up a CIGARETTE first manufactured by Robert Gloag of Perth, Scotland. And makes freqent use of the TELEPHONE invented by Alexander Graham Bell, born in Edinburgh, Scotland.
...He rings his wife, She tells him that dinner will be his favorite, ROAST BEEF - Aberdeen Angus, raised in Aberdeenshire, Scotland.
He arrives home to find the TELEVISION on, invented by John Logie Baird of Helensburgh, Scotland, with an article regarding a programme on the US NAVY founded by John Paul Jones of Kirkbean, Scotland while his son prefers to read TREASURE ISLAND written by Robert Louis Stevenson of Edinburgh, Scotland. Meanwhile outside his daughter plays in the garden on her toy BICYCLE, an invention of Kirkpatrick MacMillan, of Thornhill, Scotland.
It is impossible for an Englishman to escape the ingenuity of the Scot's!
In desperation he could turn to the BIBLE only to find that the first named mentioned in the good book is a Scot - King James VI who authorized its translation.
He could of course take to drink, but only Scotland make the finest WHISKY in the world. Nearing the end of his tether he thinks about ending it all, he could put his head in the oven - however COAL GAS was discovered by William Murdoch of Ayr, Scotland. He could use a rifle to shoot himself but his BREECH LOADING RIFLE was invented by Captain Pat Ferguson of Pitfours, Scotland. If unsuccessful he could be injected with PENICILLIN discovered by Alexander Fleming of Darvel, Scotland or given an ANAESTHETIC invented by Sir James Young Simpson of Bathgate, Scotland.
Out of the anaesthetic his mood would not be improved by his surgeon telling him, he was as safe as the BANK OF England which was founded by William Paterson, of Dumfries Scotland.
Perhaps, in order to get some peace, he should request a transfusion of guid Scottish blood so that he too would be entitled to ask:-
WHA'S LIKE US? DAMN FEW AND THEY'RE A' DEID!"

Of course the most important fact there is the absence of the letter "e" in whisky!

Eddie


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Subject: RE: BS: Inventions 'claimed' to be American
From: Ed T
Date: 05 May 14 - 03:38 PM

You are right Ebbie, I did not notice the heading.

Sorry about that. (I will have to pay more attention before I link stuff) , as I dont have any anti African views). The post can be taken down mods.


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Subject: RE: BS: Inventions 'claimed' to be American
From: pdq
Date: 05 May 14 - 04:52 PM

eddie1...


Perhaps you can work James Clerk Maxwell into that tale. Some scientists consider him the greatest of alltime.


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Subject: RE: BS: Inventions 'claimed' to be American
From: Uncle_DaveO
Date: 05 May 14 - 05:16 PM

eddie1:

I'd like to see documentation that Mrs. Keiller (or someone else in that business) actually INVENTED marmalade. If she did, I'm not really surprised. I used to eat Keiller's marmalade with great relish (if that's the right word under the circumstances), but I found some years since that that brand, at least as I bought it here in the US, had lost its distinctive bitter tone, in favor of being too sweet. Still made from Seville oranges, according to the label, but it had changed.

I can readily believe that possibly what we get here is now purposely denatured in order to meet what the salespeople thought was American taste. Durn shame, if so! Durn shame, either way. Now it just tastes like everyone else's marmalade.

Dave Oesterreich


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Subject: RE: BS: Inventions 'claimed' to be American
From: GUEST,Dazbo at work
Date: 06 May 14 - 08:46 AM

Off the top of my head the television invented by JLB bears little or no relation to the TV used up until plasma or LCD - invented by USA and Russia?

Marmalade was invented in Portugal or Spain.

There were steam engines in ancient times and were even in use before Watt.

Breech loading and rifling existed before Ferguson

Dunlop and Graham Bell were both American by Naturalisation althugh born in Scotland.

Talking a load of Bollocks! invented in Scotland :- )


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Subject: RE: BS: Inventions 'claimed' to be American
From: GUEST,Allan Conn
Date: 06 May 14 - 12:29 PM

Bell though he had lived in Canada for a while was still officially British when he invented his telephone. He only became a naturalised American later! As with many of these things various countries can lay claim.


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Subject: RE: BS: Inventions 'claimed' to be American
From: eddie1
Date: 06 May 14 - 12:51 PM

Dazbo - I believe what I choose to believe. I also have a great deal of sympathy for those from less fortunate nations. There, there! (Bends down and pats Dazbo on head)


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Subject: RE: BS: Inventions 'claimed' to be American
From: kendall
Date: 06 May 14 - 07:40 PM

George Westinghouse invented the air brake system for RR cars in 1869.


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Subject: RE: BS: Inventions 'claimed' to be American
From: GUEST,Dazbo at work
Date: 07 May 14 - 07:17 AM

Thanks eddie 1 I fell much better now :- )

I didn't know Rolls Royces existed in 1869 before Daimler (that well know Scot from Ecclefechan) invented the car!


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Subject: RE: BS: Inventions 'claimed' to be American
From: eddie1
Date: 07 May 14 - 12:07 PM

Don't know about Rollers Dazbo but it's well known that we Scots invented the guider - I had one of them but never a Rolls Royce!
Other famous Scots you might have heard of are:
Picasso (Rothesay)
Einstein (Bathgate)
Kasparov (Glasgow)
and of course, Hitler, Goebbels, Rommel & Himmler - all from Kirriemuir, famous for its balls!

Eddie


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Subject: RE: BS: Inventions 'claimed' to be American
From: Musket
Date: 07 May 14 - 12:23 PM

I notice the Italian bloke who invented the telephone has been internationally acknowledged recently...

So, as I am in Och Aye the Noo Land right now and Salmond's secret agents may be monitoring my internet......

Scotland has given us,

Haggis
Deep fried haggis
Deep fried Mars Bar
Deep fried pizza
Stovies
Decent fire water
Coronary heart disease statistics to make the rest of us look good
Bay City Rollers
Dry shortbread
Tartan Tam 'o Shanters with ginger hair sticking out of them
Men in skirts (it'll never catch on)
Loch Ness Monster
Buoyant methadone market
Semi buoyant heroin market
A74, A1 and A68
The Coldstream road, I forget the number
Billy Connolly
Rab C Nesbit

Actually, quite a lot when you think about it.


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Subject: RE: BS: Inventions 'claimed' to be American
From: Ed T
Date: 07 May 14 - 12:33 PM

The modern brawas patented in 1914 in the United States byMary Phelps Jacob.


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Subject: RE: BS: Inventions 'claimed' to be American
From: Musket
Date: 07 May 14 - 12:37 PM

There's an uplifting supportive fact for Uncle Sam


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Subject: RE: BS: Inventions 'claimed' to be American
From: Ebbie
Date: 07 May 14 - 05:34 PM

For Uncle Sam? More like Auntie.


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Subject: RE: BS: Inventions 'claimed' to be American
From: GUEST,Dazbo at Work
Date: 08 May 14 - 07:25 AM

The oldest known recipe for haggis is from England apparently.


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Subject: RE: BS: Inventions 'claimed' to be American
From: gnu
Date: 08 May 14 - 06:57 PM

Yes.. the English... well... Germans, seem to great at using the whole carcass. Waste not, want not


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Subject: RE: BS: Inventions 'claimed' to be American
From: Bert
Date: 09 May 14 - 01:38 AM

JLB's Television was a mechanical monstrosity, but it was still the first.

Instant mashed potato in 1962? What was POM in 1949?

Hero of Alexandria did work on steam engines but they did not influence modern steam engines. Likewise, Archimedes' work on infinitesimals did not influence calculus.


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Subject: RE: BS: Inventions 'claimed' to be American
From: Ed T
Date: 09 May 14 - 07:20 PM

""The haggis is frequently assumed to be Scottish in origin though there is little evidence for this, and food writer Alan Davidson states that the Ancient Romans were the first people known to have made products of the haggis type. A kind of primitive haggis is referred to in Homer's Odyssey, in book 20, when Odysseus is compared to "a man before a great blazing fire turning swiftly this way and that a stomach full of fat and blood, very eager to have it roasted quickly." Haggis was "born of necessity, as a way to utilize the least expensive cuts of meat and the innards as well" (Andrew Zimmern). In times of famine people would eat whatever it was that they could get their hands on, which is how all those fascinating ingredients became a part of Scottish tradition.

Clarissa Dickson Wright repudiates the assumption of a Scottish origin for haggis, claiming that it "came to Scotland in a longship [ie. from Scandinavia] even before Scotland was a single nation.". Dickson-Wright further cites etymologist Walter William Skeat as further suggestion of possible Scandinavian origins: Skeat claimed that the hag part of the word is derived from the Old Norse hoggva or the Icelandic haggw, meaning 'to hew' or strike with a sharp weapon, relating to the chopped-up contents of the dish. One theory claims that the name "haggis" is derived from Norman French. Norman French was more guttural than normal French so that the "ch" of "hachis", i.e. "chopped", was pronounced as the "ch" in "loch", giving "haggis".""


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