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BS: Coffee

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A PROPER CUP OF COFFEE
I'D RATHER MAKE COFFEE THAN LOVE
MAKIN' COFFEE


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ClaireBear 08 Aug 11 - 12:18 PM
Cap't Bob 07 Aug 11 - 11:49 PM
Bill D 07 Aug 11 - 08:49 PM
Charley Noble 07 Aug 11 - 07:48 PM
JennieG 02 Jun 07 - 12:20 AM
wysiwyg 01 Jun 07 - 11:16 AM
Bill D 01 Jun 07 - 08:23 AM
wysiwyg 31 May 07 - 09:51 PM
Ebbie 31 May 07 - 09:09 PM
The Fooles Troupe 31 May 07 - 06:19 PM
wysiwyg 31 May 07 - 05:44 PM
GUEST,Jay 31 May 07 - 12:30 PM
MMario 31 May 07 - 11:27 AM
Bill D 31 May 07 - 11:14 AM
MMario 31 May 07 - 09:29 AM
wysiwyg 30 May 07 - 08:13 PM
Becca72 30 May 07 - 06:39 PM
Rapparee 30 May 07 - 11:07 AM
Bill D 30 May 07 - 11:02 AM
Wesley S 30 May 07 - 10:43 AM
GUEST, Topsie 19 Dec 05 - 06:54 AM
The Fooles Troupe 18 Dec 05 - 11:48 PM
JohnInKansas 18 Dec 05 - 09:21 PM
billybob 18 Dec 05 - 07:05 PM
SINSULL 18 Dec 05 - 11:40 AM
Cap't Bob 18 Dec 05 - 11:17 AM
The Fooles Troupe 18 Dec 05 - 08:50 AM
Cap't Bob 18 Dec 05 - 12:05 AM
GUEST, Topsie 17 Dec 05 - 09:06 AM
The Fooles Troupe 16 Dec 05 - 01:49 AM
Bunnahabhain 15 Dec 05 - 08:32 PM
maire-aine 15 Dec 05 - 07:43 PM
Rapparee 15 Dec 05 - 07:12 PM
Bill D 15 Dec 05 - 06:55 PM
The Fooles Troupe 15 Dec 05 - 05:54 PM
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Subject: RE: BS: Coffee
From: ClaireBear
Date: 08 Aug 11 - 12:18 PM

I love a good, strong cup of Sumatra Mandheling, roasted Italian style. However, drinking brewed coffee without milk is something I can no longer do...I never recovered from the sensitivity I developed during pregnancy 12 years ago. And I don't keep milk at home. So no coffee for me...

...until recently when I discovered that coffee made Turkish style doesn't make me queasy! So I got myself a proper copper coffeepot (i.e., an ibric) and a supply of cardamom-scented Turkish coffee, which I mix half and half with Italian espresso for extra richness. I sweeten my Turkish coffee with raw sugar (which goes in before brewing), and augment it with a spoonful of rosewater before pouring. Just one BIG (16 oz.) cup a day is perfect.


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Subject: RE: BS: Coffee
From: Cap't Bob
Date: 07 Aug 11 - 11:49 PM

Thanks for refreshing this thread Charley ~ I thought the words to my coffee song about the Northwoods Coffee house were lost and gone forever.    Cap't Bob


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Subject: RE: BS: Coffee
From: Bill D
Date: 07 Aug 11 - 08:49 PM

wow... I remember those old posts! Nice to re-read my own remarks after 5 years. I still think mostly the same...but *sigh*.. have resorted to cheaper coffee at times. (Trader Joe's "Joe" brand, which is still decent, and I still grind it one day at a time.) I know where to buy the more expensive stuff, but $9-$14 a lb. scares me off.

BTW... I have had very marginal luck with French Market coffee with chicory. I suspect they have reduced the chicory.... (I used to see "Captain's Coffee", which had a higher chicory content, but that was many years ago.


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Subject: RE: BS: Coffee
From: Charley Noble
Date: 07 Aug 11 - 07:48 PM

refreshing!


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Subject: RE: BS: Coffee
From: JennieG
Date: 02 Jun 07 - 12:20 AM

Ebbie, try what you have before you spend huge dollars on something else! Our grinder is a Bodum blade grinder which fortuitously was on special when our former grinder died, and I am very happy with it. I have a small insulated stainless steel plunger pot for drinking alone and a larger glass pot for when I have coffee company.

It's coffee o'clock now, I am off to make a pot.

Cheers
JennieG


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Subject: RE: BS: Coffee
From: wysiwyg
Date: 01 Jun 07 - 11:16 AM

once you stop, it's very tricky to put the cover back on

Bill, Bill, Bill...... just dump it out into something through a little sieve (from the 99 cent store). What doesn't pass through the sive goes back into the grinder to re-grind. Or to make two separate grinds, with the very fine going through and the coarser left in the sieve.

When life gets too busy I just use the grinder at the store. "Horrors! Never grind a whole pound, it will dry out!" Nothing says you have to buy a whole pound at once!

Yeah, I do all that for Hardi's espresso and then drink the pale storebought stuff that comes ground. Iced, it's not bad coffee though.

~S~


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Subject: RE: BS: Coffee
From: Bill D
Date: 01 Jun 07 - 08:23 AM

Time your blade grinder...a slightly shorter grinding time will give you something quite close to the coarser grind. (I did it accidently a couple of times.)[but once you stop, it's very tricky to put the cover back on]


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Subject: RE: BS: Coffee
From: wysiwyg
Date: 31 May 07 - 09:51 PM

Try it with the coffee you have. We haven't died yet of inappropriate grind, and ya know, coffee is coffee. Oh yes, some folks like to worship it and fuss over it, but it's just coffee. We camped with our press and drank, happily, anything anyone brought to put ito it.

~Susan


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Subject: RE: BS: Coffee
From: Ebbie
Date: 31 May 07 - 09:09 PM

Someone gave me a coffee press (also known as a plunger, above) but I will have to buy a bur type coffee grinder if I want to use it. The paperwork insists that the coffee grounds have to be coarse and that a regular coffee grinder, with a blade type of grinder, won't do.

Problem is that my regular grinder cost $14; the bur type is $75! Not kidding.


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Subject: RE: BS: Coffee
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 31 May 07 - 06:19 PM

oooooooooooooooooooooo..


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Subject: RE: BS: Coffee
From: wysiwyg
Date: 31 May 07 - 05:44 PM

Oh, mercy....

I suppose one can get 'used to' diet Pepsi and Coors Lite, too... but...


Yeah. Getting older is a bitch! I'll take what I can take.

~S~


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Subject: RE: BS: Coffee
From: GUEST,Jay
Date: 31 May 07 - 12:30 PM

Someone said that they think putting sugar in coffee is wimpy.
It depends on how large the cup of coffee is, and how much sugar you
put in. At a coffee house, a large cup with only one sugar packet -
the taste of sugar really isn't noticeable; because of the ratio of
coffee ml to sugar ml.
I can agree with you when a small sized cup with three or four packets of sugar can be considered "wimpy"; because there's so much
sugar in such a small cup, it kills the taste and aroma of coffee.

For me, it depends on how hyper that I need to get.


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Subject: RE: BS: Coffee
From: MMario
Date: 31 May 07 - 11:27 AM

stop eating in favor of reverting to 32 oz. of coffee with 32 oz. of cream and sugar

black is fine - though occasionally when I'm tired, I'll go to cream; or if I'm *REALLY* tired - cream and sugar.

But ecstacy is 1/2 expresso, half coffee ice cream.

in a pinch, B&J's coffeecoffeebuzzbuzzbuzz melted and poured in a glass.


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Subject: RE: BS: Coffee
From: Bill D
Date: 31 May 07 - 11:14 AM

"Once you get used to it that is."

Oh, mercy....

I suppose one can get 'used to' diet Pepsi and Coors Lite, too...but..


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Subject: RE: BS: Coffee
From: MMario
Date: 31 May 07 - 09:29 AM

Occasionally red blood cells mix into my caffiene-stream.


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Subject: RE: BS: Coffee
From: wysiwyg
Date: 30 May 07 - 08:13 PM

I have had GREAT success with the Folger's Smooth Roast. The taste is a bit pale till you get used to it, but my IBS no longer goes into high gear at the thought of coffee, IF the rest of my diet is well-handled (and as long as I don't stop eating in favor of reverting to 32 oz. of coffee with 32 oz. of cream and sugar). I bought a small container until I became a believer. It's not as yummy as the espresso, but it's at least coffee. Once you get used to it that is.

~S~


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Subject: RE: BS: Coffee
From: Becca72
Date: 30 May 07 - 06:39 PM

Had to give up daily consumption...really messes with my GERD. So I went from 3-4 cups daily to 1-2 cups per week. I sure miss it, but it's not worth the heartburn!


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Subject: RE: BS: Coffee
From: Rapparee
Date: 30 May 07 - 11:07 AM

Thanks, I think I will. It just finished brewing.


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Subject: RE: BS: Coffee
From: Bill D
Date: 30 May 07 - 11:02 AM

my 2nd mug....which = 4 'cups'


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Subject: RE: BS: Coffee
From: Wesley S
Date: 30 May 07 - 10:43 AM

I'm on my third cup this morning - how about you?


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Subject: RE: BS: Coffee
From: GUEST, Topsie
Date: 19 Dec 05 - 06:54 AM

billybob
While I'm sure you will want to go back to Porlock any way, you don't need to run out of coffee in the mean time - I've discovered they do mail order.


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Subject: RE: BS: Coffee
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 18 Dec 05 - 11:48 PM

Sounds similar to the old Russian Samovars.


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Subject: RE: BS: Coffee
From: JohnInKansas
Date: 18 Dec 05 - 09:21 PM

Lin's granddaddy had a hotel down in the Texas panhandle a long time ago, and we gained custody of his old hotel coffee pot a while back. It was about 2 feet (plus a bit) tall and about 19 inches in diameter. Two taps on the side. It had a cloth basket that hung at the top that I'd guess probably got about 2 or 3 pounds of coffee at a shot.

You heated one of those on the wood stove and carried it out to the counter, or - if you weren't in a hurry or just couldn't lift 20 gallons of hot water - you could light the little wicks (2 of 'em) in the kerosine burner it sat on and wait - and wait.

When the water got hot enough, you'd tap off a quart or so and pour it back in at the top, through the basket, and let it run down. If it wasn't strong enough, you'd just pour another couple of quarts through it.

The hotel, two story wood frame, came from a town a ways down the road that died when the railroad went the other way, so grandpa bought it and moved it (hoss power rollin' on logs) to the County Seat. The new location was almost a ghost town a few years ago, with nothin' but the Courthouse and a bitty little Post Office left, when a couple of young furiners moved in and and set up an art shop, put in a dance platform and started doin' Friday night dances. The hotel is now their frame shop, and they hustled up enough local public support and some grant money to build a "Regional Museum" down by the highway, so the pot's now on loan (probably permanent) to the Wolf Creek Museum.

Stop by and take a look at Lion's pot if you happen to be goin' past Lipscomb Texas (if you can find it). The pot's not extremely rare, but that little kerosine heater is the only one I've seen since I was a real little bitty kid that's in working order - and it still had good wicks in it when we got it. (Doesn't take a lot to get you excited when you've spent a day or two in the Panhandle.)

John


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Subject: RE: BS: Coffee
From: billybob
Date: 18 Dec 05 - 07:05 PM

guest Topsie
well, Billy and I were wondering round Porlock on a weekend away and we had been told that there was a coffee warehouse in the village, no idea where, so followed our noses, in the back streets found the origins of the fantastic aroma!!We bought a number of different bags of coffee .. all have been wonderful, looking forward to going back and trying some more.


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Subject: RE: BS: Coffee
From: SINSULL
Date: 18 Dec 05 - 11:40 AM

Coffee! Colombian - my friends used to bring me back the real thing when I lived in NYC. Black. No sugar.

I have 2 cups per day. I am allowed no more after recovering from a 40 - 50 cup per day addiction. It took six months to get rid of the dull caffeine headache. 24 hours a day even in my dreams, my head throbbed.

But when others order dessert I much prefer an expresso. My main vice, I think.


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Subject: RE: BS: Coffee
From: Cap't Bob
Date: 18 Dec 05 - 11:17 AM

Well foolestroupe that's the way I learned to make coffee and over the years I've tended to stick with the method. My wife thinks I go through way to much coffee ~ I make more than we need. Holding to the words of my Mother "waste not, want not", I hate to throw things away and as a result end up drinking more than I should.

Recently I've been playing at a little coffee house in Atlanta Michigan. Wrote this little blues type song for the place:

I went to Atlanta the other day,
Up in Northern Michigan not Atlanta G. A.
Back in the pine woods is a neat little spot,
The scenery is great and the coffees hot.

CHORUS:
at the north woods ~~~ that's where it's at,
at the north woods ~~~ I'm sure about that,
at the north woods, you can sit and chew,
say hi to Patty and the North Woods Crew

If you need some coffee and a scone or two,
and like to look at paintings while you sip and chew,
You need to escape from your day's routine
and spend a little time with the old coffee bean.
CHORUS
If you like your music in the acoustic style,
come on in, sit down for a while,
and listen to some tunes in the home spun way,
I'm sure you'll want to come back another day.
CHORUS

It's a neat little spot a great place to drink coffee.
Check it out....
http://northwoodscoffeehouse.com/
Cap't Bob


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Subject: RE: BS: Coffee
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 18 Dec 05 - 08:50 AM

So Cap't Bob, I've always been told coffee tastes better if you get it in bulk....


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Subject: RE: BS: Coffee
From: Cap't Bob
Date: 18 Dec 05 - 12:05 AM

During the early 50's I had the dubious honor of making coffee for the crew on the U.S.S. Helena CA 75. The coffee was made in a large cauldron about three feet in diameter and three feet from top to bottom. I'd fill the thing about 3/4 full of boiling water and put in gunny sack full of coffee. Don't really know how many pounds (they never told me but I'd guess around 10 to 15 pounds). Then I'd take a small paddle (like a tiny canoe paddle) and paddle the thing for several minutes. The early chow line would get "tea coff." around midway through the meal the coffee wasn't all that bad, by the end of the meal it would curl your hair. The process was repeated for each meal and around sometimes around 2200 for the guys on night watch.
Cap't Bob


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Subject: RE: BS: Coffee
From: GUEST, Topsie
Date: 17 Dec 05 - 09:06 AM

Billybob
Does your description of the coffee from Porlock apply to all their blends, or are some even better than others?


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Subject: RE: BS: Coffee
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 16 Dec 05 - 01:49 AM

Talk about leaking coffee cups: many years ago, we had a canteen at work, and used to get coffee in those styrofoam cups. I had several cups that caused a clear liquid to appear on my desk. Yep, the holes were just he right size to filter out all the coloured stuff!

I'm not making this up!


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Subject: RE: BS: Coffee
From: Bunnahabhain
Date: 15 Dec 05 - 08:32 PM

The time to worry is when you ask how big a mug, at home, and she picks up the pint-and-a-quarterish stoneware tankard...


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Subject: RE: BS: Coffee
From: maire-aine
Date: 15 Dec 05 - 07:43 PM

I rarely drink coffee at work-- only if there is a FRESH pot of decaf. But once in a while (winter only) I will make a small pot at home. My favorite is Decaffeinated Amaretto, prepared by Schuil Coffee Company of Grand Rapids MI, and distributed by R. Hirt at Detroit's Eastern Market. I love this stuff. They make 20 or more different varieties (all in both regular and decaf). I don't know if they have a website or not, but it's worth looking for.

Then I splash a little REAL amaretto liqueur, and I'm set for the evening. In fact, since we got 6 inches of snow today, and I've cleared my driveway, I have a pot brewing right now.

Cheer,
Maryanne


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Subject: RE: BS: Coffee
From: Rapparee
Date: 15 Dec 05 - 07:12 PM

Mugs. My primary criteria is "does it leak?"

I've drunk coffee from mugs, cups, what appeared to be thimbles, canteen cups, styrofoam, paper, wood and god knows what else.

I have mugs. They work. They don't leak. They're reasonably comfortable to use. What more could I ask?


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Subject: RE: BS: Coffee
From: Bill D
Date: 15 Dec 05 - 06:55 PM

well, John, I read your specs for coffee mugs with interest, as I also have difficulty finding just the perfect one. I went and studied the 3-4 that I use most, and I note that they DO conform to your general design, though all have minor deviations. I note that they all are 'nearly' vertical inside, and 3 or the 4 have relatively thin rims, though two are a bit taller than you prefer. There is a bit of a flared rim to two of them, but it is mostly decorative, and not enough to be a problem.
   Interestingly, the one which comes closest to your specs was bought from a potter at the Kansas State Fair in Hutchinson about 1973! I would use it more, but it is one of the taller ones and holds more coffee than I 'usually' drink...that is, I usually brew 4 'cups', which makes 2 medium 'mugs', and my most used mug is just the right capacity.
   If I were to improve on it, I would make a thinner, more comfortable curve to the handle, as I like to slip 3 fingers thru it, with one outside/below....and I'd like that 4th finger to help support the mug from the outside (kind of a double-curve). I bought IT at a 2nd hand store, though it was originally also a stoneware craft item. I have a couple of smaller cups that are 'ok', but I use them only when I am making smaller amounts.

I guess the handle shape is my biggest complaint....I want to go to a potter and sit there while they make a handle precisely to fit my grip!........

(Oh, I will use plastic...the insulated type...when driving, and have built myself custom holders in my van for almost any shape of beverage container.)


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Subject: RE: BS: Coffee
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 15 Dec 05 - 05:54 PM

Close enough to the shape

It was found in a auto shop I think - it was US in origin.

I have no problem with the taste - it has 5 years of accumulated insulating surface inside... :-0


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Subject: RE: BS: Coffee
From: M.Ted
Date: 15 Dec 05 - 05:33 PM

Thai and Vietnamese restaurants always serve great iced coffee--Burmese restaurants too--


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Subject: RE: BS: Coffee
From: JohnInKansas
Date: 15 Dec 05 - 04:28 PM

Rapaire - One lady entrepreneur was selling tumbleweeds to the easterners a few months ago. Doing a thriving business, and got a great writeup in one of the newsrags.

**

Iced coffee is fine, although I don't do it often. The problem is that few commercial places move enough of it to prepare for it, so they pour hot coffee over ice. The coffee needs to be brewed and cooled immediately while fresh, at least to room temperature but preferably to refrigerator temp. Add the ice only when ready to serve. People who like it, who don't "doctor up" their hot coffee, do seem to prefer a shot of milk and often a dab of sweetener. My problem with iced coffee is that you seem to drink it instead of sipping, and it's hard to stay with it all day like you can with hot brew.

John


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Subject: RE: BS: Coffee
From: M.Ted
Date: 15 Dec 05 - 03:12 PM

I like the coffee I like, made the way I like it, served in a vessel that I like.


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Subject: RE: BS: Coffee
From: MMario
Date: 15 Dec 05 - 02:37 PM

expensive is always better than something inexpensive - it's taken me 30 years to get my b-i-l to admit this isn't *always* so.


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Subject: RE: BS: Coffee
From: frogprince
Date: 15 Dec 05 - 02:33 PM

What's wrong with you guys, putting Starbucks down; don't you know "You get what you pay for", and that means something expensive is always better than something inexpensive!
             ...damn unamerican commie pinkos...


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Subject: RE: BS: Coffee
From: Charmion
Date: 15 Dec 05 - 02:30 PM

My tee-total grandparents drank iced coffee in summer.

Their fellow residents in Almonte, Ontario, assumed they developed this odd habit in England, where they lived for 20 years, but I think it more likely they picked it up in Brockville, Ontario, where they shared a summer cottage with Granddad's brothers before the First World War.

Those who don't drink beer need to take fairly drastic measures in the heat of an Ontario summer.


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Subject: RE: BS: Coffee
From: MMario
Date: 15 Dec 05 - 02:15 PM

regarding iced coffee - it seems to have been a New England thing primarily up until the 70's; leastwise it wasn't until the mid 70's that anyone outside of New England didn't look funny at me if I ordered iced coffee.


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Subject: RE: BS: Coffee
From: Rapparee
Date: 15 Dec 05 - 01:59 PM

John, I've long thought that once upon a time a bunch of guys 'n' gals Texas and New Mexico were sittin' around a barbecue, talkin' about the dudes back East. Someone said, "Hell, you kin sell 'em anything!" and bet somebody else that he could do it. Anyway, the betee chose mesquite, figgerin' that even Easterns couldn't be THAT dumb....

So I don't doubt your Starbucks scenario at all.


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Subject: RE: BS: Coffee
From: JohnInKansas
Date: 15 Dec 05 - 01:41 PM

Way back some many years ago, a coffee processor burnt a very large batch of beans. Badly burnt

"Somebody" got a really cheap price on them, since the processor couldn't sell them through normal channels.

"Somebody" got the inspirations that "If we give it a fancy name and sell it for an exorbitantly high price, them yuppies in Seattle will be proud to buy it, 'specially if we funk it up with lots of yuppie flavors and spices and odd combinations."

"And we might even sell overpriced donuts."

Starbucks was born.

"Steam brewed" coffee was popular in gold rush towns in the 1860s at least, and several "back east" fancy restaurants now (or last time I was there) feature the original machines. Elaborate, beautiful, fascinating devices. Completely misused in most cases, since current regs won't allow real steam pressure (something about killing off the customers) so, like Starbucks, they now use "pretend steam" that condenses to hot(???) water when it's turned loose on the grounds. Not the original stuff, but then the original wasn't something you'd want a lot of maybe.

Most of the brews used make a pretense of "stronger than usual" by actually using beans "more burnt than usual," since it convinces the gullible that it's "something different" and therefor worth more money. This is akin to the "michelob" with the "import taste," specially brewed to taste like beer that "came over from far away" and is brewed to taste like STALE Lager . But people pay heaps more for it.

But then, maybe I'm a bit of a cynic. I'm old enough to be entitled.

John


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Subject: RE: BS: Coffee
From: MMario
Date: 15 Dec 05 - 12:23 PM

I've yet to get a good cup of coffee at a starbucks - I don't know if that is because the help at the locations I have tried aren't trained properly or they've gotten sloppy - or what; but I've had instant better then what I've been served.


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Subject: RE: BS: Coffee
From: JohnInKansas
Date: 15 Dec 05 - 12:04 PM

Many of the "large capacity" cups/mugs have a taper on the inside. Some of the worst actually have a "globe shaped" innard. The problem with this is that you have to pay attention and tilt your head back to a different angle when the amount of coffee in the cup changes.

A good mug should be capable of totally autonomic and unconscious use.

You reach vaguely in the general direction and it "leaps into" your grasp.

You draw it close while peering over it at what you're working on, and tilt the cup until the nectar touches your lips.

You satisfy your need, and return the cup whence it came.

If you have to adjust your grip, tilt your head, or in the worst cases actually lean back in your seat to get to the last dregs, it ain't a righteous cup. The only good shape for the inside is a straight untapered cylinder.

The "superwide base" things are intended mainly for use in vehicles not equipped with "cup holders" and are really useful only if you need to set them on the dashboard (or on the seat beside you). The wide base resists tipping. You can also get them with a "sandbag base" that will conform to almost any surface. For safety, a cupholder and a more conventionally shaped cup is really better.

Since a good "sipping rim" is about 3 inches in diameter, I'd have to clear a large bit of my workspace to use one with a 3x (9 inch diameter) base. No thanks.

Unfortunately, cups with lids (to prevent splashing in a moving vehicle) all are (so far as I've seen) plastic, at least on the inside. I may have an unusual sensitivity, but I've never been able to enjoy my nectar from any plastic container. I detect an objectionable taint even from most paper cups - especially including those used by Starbucks.

John


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Subject: RE: BS: Coffee
From: Bunnahabhain
Date: 14 Dec 05 - 08:57 PM

you mean something like this shape,


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in an insulating materiel?

http://www.liquidplanet.com/Planetary-Design-Wide-Base-Mug-p-564.html?

But to find one of the old fashioned ones, with a really wide base ( ~3 times wider at base than top), it would seem to be a case of find a freinly potter, or as they were for shipboard use, tin or pewter was used, so a friendly metalworker...


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Subject: RE: BS: Coffee
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 14 Dec 05 - 06:46 PM

I chanced upon a mug years ago that works for me.

It seems similar to JiK's mug.

It holds about 2 standard cups.

The label fell off, but the base has a thin circle of cork.

It stands higher than my palm width - about 6 or so inches high.

The bas is 5-6 inches wide, the top is about 2-1/2 - 3 inches wide.

It tapers from the base up to about 4 inches, then rises cylindrically.

The handle allows all 4 of my fingers to fit fully, and is mounted in such a way with the tapering section and straight section, that it is on a slight angle, with about an inch under the bottom of it.

It is a plastic 'travel mug', with foam insulation inside the inner and outer walls. The inside is completely cylindrical. The top lip is awkward, as it has a clip on lid with a large hole to sip thru, and a small air hole on the opposite side. But when used with the lid on, it is easy to sip from, and the flow is restricted by the hole size.

It stays warm enough to drink for 3-4 hours.

I never realised before consciously just how comfortable it is, and why I drag it with me in the car (which is what it was sold for), then bring it inside for computing use. If going away for a few days to stay at a friends place, I often take it inside and then have tea in it while watching TV.


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Subject: RE: BS: Coffee
From: EBarnacle
Date: 14 Dec 05 - 05:08 PM

Try a mix of 1 part Kenya AA with 2 parts Celebes Kalossi. Grind them together [as in start from whole beans] for a few seconds and use a Chemex. Then, after pouring into your pre-heated mug, sit down, put your feet up and enjoy the best coffee this world can offer.


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Subject: RE: BS: Coffee
From: JohnInKansas
Date: 14 Dec 05 - 02:38 PM

I've attempted to talk to a couple of people who make stuff for sale at the festivals around here, but when I say they can't put a dribble lip on it they're not interested. They seem to think that "nonfunctional" is a critical part of their "art."

I'd probably have better luck going down to one of the local hobby shops and making my own - which of course is on my list of "things to do - - someday."

I have no objection if someone wants to use the dimensions and description above to try to make a decent cup. The world is in great need. If anyone happens to be particularly interested, I could take a couple of snapshots to email. PM an email addy. The sales pitch is up above.

Most of those that I know to be "in the business" are located where shipping would likely cost as much as a cup, so I've resisted long distance personal orders; and the detail requirements leave a lot of room for "close but no cigar" results.

Lin in Kansas suggested that I should relate that she's bought "more than a dozen" cups/mugs that she thought "looked like mine," and I've tried them all (actually closer to two dozen). Haven't found one that fills the need. Both of my kids have asked that I make a will and leave them "the cup," so it's not just my own solitary opinion. And I've offered both of them the "rejects" that Lin (and others) have brought home, and they've declined them all, for the same various reasons I don't use any of them.

John


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