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Bobert 17 Oct 05 - 12:03 AM
Max 17 Oct 05 - 01:34 AM
Roger in Baltimore 17 Oct 05 - 11:54 AM
GUEST,WYSIWYG 17 Oct 05 - 12:07 PM
CarolC 17 Oct 05 - 01:33 PM
Don Firth 17 Oct 05 - 01:58 PM
jimmyt 17 Oct 05 - 02:04 PM
Peace 17 Oct 05 - 02:26 PM
Bill D 17 Oct 05 - 03:39 PM
jimmyt 17 Oct 05 - 04:04 PM
KT 17 Oct 05 - 04:20 PM
Joe Offer 17 Oct 05 - 05:52 PM
GUEST,KT 17 Oct 05 - 06:04 PM
GUEST,KT 17 Oct 05 - 06:39 PM
GUEST,KT 17 Oct 05 - 06:42 PM
momnopp 17 Oct 05 - 06:57 PM
GUEST,Tinker 17 Oct 05 - 07:41 PM
Bobert 17 Oct 05 - 08:21 PM
GUEST,SINSULL 17 Oct 05 - 08:30 PM
Allan C. 17 Oct 05 - 09:26 PM
Janie 17 Oct 05 - 09:47 PM
Dani 17 Oct 05 - 09:50 PM
Janie 17 Oct 05 - 10:06 PM
Bobert 17 Oct 05 - 10:12 PM
GUEST,catsPHiddle@Tinkers 17 Oct 05 - 10:21 PM
Rapparee 17 Oct 05 - 10:33 PM
jacqui.c 17 Oct 05 - 10:50 PM
GUEST 17 Oct 05 - 11:05 PM
Celtaddict 17 Oct 05 - 11:47 PM
Pauline L 18 Oct 05 - 12:13 AM
skarpi 18 Oct 05 - 01:16 AM
GUEST,Giok 18 Oct 05 - 01:27 AM
Stephen L. Rich 18 Oct 05 - 01:28 AM
open mike 18 Oct 05 - 02:57 AM
InOBU 18 Oct 05 - 08:04 AM
GUEST,Tinker 18 Oct 05 - 08:09 AM
GUEST,Mrs.Duck 18 Oct 05 - 09:39 AM
jacqui.c 18 Oct 05 - 10:02 AM
Tinker 18 Oct 05 - 10:15 AM
katlaughing 18 Oct 05 - 10:32 AM
Charley Noble 18 Oct 05 - 11:11 AM
GUEST,MMario 18 Oct 05 - 11:30 AM
GutBucketeer 18 Oct 05 - 12:41 PM
kendall 18 Oct 05 - 01:02 PM
GUEST,Noreen @ Rita and Bill's house 18 Oct 05 - 02:16 PM
Amos 18 Oct 05 - 02:33 PM
kendall 18 Oct 05 - 03:09 PM
Charley Noble 18 Oct 05 - 03:27 PM
Jeri 18 Oct 05 - 03:29 PM
InOBU 18 Oct 05 - 03:56 PM
Dani 18 Oct 05 - 05:09 PM
Dani 18 Oct 05 - 05:27 PM
Peace 18 Oct 05 - 05:30 PM
Amos 18 Oct 05 - 05:42 PM
Bat Goddess 18 Oct 05 - 05:51 PM
Ferrara 18 Oct 05 - 05:59 PM
Maryrrf 18 Oct 05 - 06:44 PM
CET 18 Oct 05 - 06:45 PM
jacqui.c 18 Oct 05 - 07:07 PM
Dani 18 Oct 05 - 07:19 PM
kendall 18 Oct 05 - 07:29 PM
momnopp 18 Oct 05 - 08:01 PM
Bobert 18 Oct 05 - 08:26 PM
jimmyt 18 Oct 05 - 08:51 PM
Bobert 18 Oct 05 - 09:06 PM
jimmyt 18 Oct 05 - 09:12 PM
GUEST,Micca 18 Oct 05 - 10:32 PM
KT 18 Oct 05 - 10:57 PM
GutBucketeer 18 Oct 05 - 11:14 PM
SINSULL 18 Oct 05 - 11:20 PM
InOBU 18 Oct 05 - 11:26 PM
Ebbie 18 Oct 05 - 11:28 PM
katlaughing 19 Oct 05 - 03:26 AM
skarpi 19 Oct 05 - 06:13 AM
Liz the Squeak 19 Oct 05 - 06:43 AM
Tinker 19 Oct 05 - 07:12 AM
Morticia 19 Oct 05 - 07:34 AM
GUEST,Dani 19 Oct 05 - 08:01 AM
jacqui.c 19 Oct 05 - 08:14 AM
Janie 19 Oct 05 - 08:29 AM
Roger in Baltimore 19 Oct 05 - 08:34 AM
Amos 19 Oct 05 - 09:36 AM
Big Mick 19 Oct 05 - 09:46 AM
Ebbie 19 Oct 05 - 09:59 AM
Tinker 19 Oct 05 - 10:31 AM
GUEST,SINSULL 19 Oct 05 - 10:33 AM
MMario 19 Oct 05 - 10:53 AM
GUEST,Marion 19 Oct 05 - 10:57 AM
skarpi 19 Oct 05 - 11:07 AM
KT 19 Oct 05 - 11:19 AM
ranger1 19 Oct 05 - 11:33 AM
Charmion 19 Oct 05 - 11:57 AM
Big Mick 19 Oct 05 - 12:09 PM
Big Mick 19 Oct 05 - 12:10 PM
Ebbie 19 Oct 05 - 12:30 PM
GUEST,KT 19 Oct 05 - 12:31 PM
voyager 19 Oct 05 - 12:31 PM
gnu 19 Oct 05 - 02:31 PM
Janie 19 Oct 05 - 03:04 PM
Catherine Jayne 19 Oct 05 - 03:07 PM
skarpi 19 Oct 05 - 03:10 PM
MMario 19 Oct 05 - 03:48 PM
Charmion 19 Oct 05 - 04:27 PM
Allan C. 19 Oct 05 - 06:23 PM
Janie 19 Oct 05 - 06:30 PM
Allan C. 19 Oct 05 - 06:45 PM
skarpi 19 Oct 05 - 06:55 PM
Janie 19 Oct 05 - 07:02 PM
CET 19 Oct 05 - 07:46 PM
Big Mick 19 Oct 05 - 07:49 PM
Bobert 19 Oct 05 - 08:00 PM
Bobert 19 Oct 05 - 08:23 PM
Big Mick 19 Oct 05 - 08:26 PM
Bobert 19 Oct 05 - 08:38 PM
jacqui.c 19 Oct 05 - 08:43 PM
Susan A-R 19 Oct 05 - 08:49 PM
Bobert 19 Oct 05 - 09:04 PM
jacqui.c 19 Oct 05 - 09:21 PM
Edelweiss 19 Oct 05 - 09:43 PM
KT 19 Oct 05 - 09:52 PM
Ebbie 19 Oct 05 - 10:22 PM
KT 19 Oct 05 - 10:38 PM
Dani 19 Oct 05 - 10:53 PM
Tinker 19 Oct 05 - 10:54 PM
Janie 19 Oct 05 - 11:35 PM
Big Mick 20 Oct 05 - 12:44 AM
Celtaddict 20 Oct 05 - 12:57 AM
Celtaddict 20 Oct 05 - 01:05 AM
Big Mick 20 Oct 05 - 01:06 AM
Bobert 20 Oct 05 - 07:46 AM
jacqui.c 20 Oct 05 - 07:53 AM
Dani 20 Oct 05 - 08:01 AM
Amos 20 Oct 05 - 08:35 AM
Big Mick 20 Oct 05 - 08:49 AM
wysiwyg 20 Oct 05 - 09:52 AM
Ferrara 20 Oct 05 - 09:53 AM
karen k 20 Oct 05 - 10:03 AM
MMario 20 Oct 05 - 10:04 AM
Tinker 20 Oct 05 - 10:09 AM
Charley Noble 20 Oct 05 - 10:12 AM
Jeri 20 Oct 05 - 10:19 AM
lamarca 20 Oct 05 - 10:22 AM
Jeri 20 Oct 05 - 10:24 AM
Ferrara 20 Oct 05 - 10:40 AM
MMario 20 Oct 05 - 10:44 AM
Ferrara 20 Oct 05 - 10:58 AM
George Papavgeris 20 Oct 05 - 11:00 AM
InOBU 20 Oct 05 - 11:04 AM
MMario 20 Oct 05 - 11:10 AM
Jeri 20 Oct 05 - 11:11 AM
George Papavgeris 20 Oct 05 - 11:20 AM
beardedbruce 20 Oct 05 - 11:21 AM
mooman 20 Oct 05 - 11:24 AM
wysiwyg 20 Oct 05 - 11:28 AM
Janie 20 Oct 05 - 11:37 AM
Ebbie 20 Oct 05 - 11:52 AM
Bill D 20 Oct 05 - 11:59 AM
Janie 20 Oct 05 - 12:46 PM
Skipjack K8 20 Oct 05 - 12:51 PM
Ebbie 20 Oct 05 - 12:53 PM
Jeri 20 Oct 05 - 12:56 PM
Ferrara 20 Oct 05 - 01:22 PM
Celtaddict 20 Oct 05 - 01:49 PM
Amos 20 Oct 05 - 01:58 PM
Janie 20 Oct 05 - 02:05 PM
Allan C. 20 Oct 05 - 02:20 PM
Charmion 20 Oct 05 - 02:52 PM
Celtaddict 20 Oct 05 - 02:54 PM
Ebbie 20 Oct 05 - 02:57 PM
Allan C. 20 Oct 05 - 03:03 PM
Ebbie 20 Oct 05 - 03:08 PM
CarolC 20 Oct 05 - 03:21 PM
Allan C. 20 Oct 05 - 03:55 PM
Amos 20 Oct 05 - 03:57 PM
Charley Noble 20 Oct 05 - 04:02 PM
kendall 20 Oct 05 - 04:24 PM
Amos 20 Oct 05 - 04:33 PM
Nessie 20 Oct 05 - 04:35 PM
Janie 20 Oct 05 - 04:40 PM
Sorcha 20 Oct 05 - 05:04 PM
Ebbie 20 Oct 05 - 05:14 PM
Bill D 20 Oct 05 - 05:16 PM
Bobert 20 Oct 05 - 05:30 PM
Sorcha 20 Oct 05 - 05:30 PM
CET 20 Oct 05 - 05:47 PM
Charley Noble 20 Oct 05 - 05:54 PM
Bill D 20 Oct 05 - 06:00 PM
Ebbie 20 Oct 05 - 06:01 PM
Bill D 20 Oct 05 - 06:15 PM
Ferrara 20 Oct 05 - 06:22 PM
lamarca 20 Oct 05 - 06:28 PM
Ebbie 20 Oct 05 - 06:43 PM
Bobert 20 Oct 05 - 06:47 PM
Sorcha 20 Oct 05 - 07:20 PM
Amos 20 Oct 05 - 07:22 PM
Ebbie 20 Oct 05 - 07:40 PM
George Papavgeris 20 Oct 05 - 07:47 PM
Janie 20 Oct 05 - 07:48 PM
InOBU 20 Oct 05 - 07:51 PM
Charley Noble 20 Oct 05 - 07:55 PM
LilyFestre 20 Oct 05 - 07:58 PM
Skipjack K8 20 Oct 05 - 07:58 PM
Charley Noble 20 Oct 05 - 08:09 PM
InOBU 20 Oct 05 - 08:17 PM
Maryrrf 20 Oct 05 - 08:25 PM
Sorcha 20 Oct 05 - 08:41 PM
Ebbie 20 Oct 05 - 08:45 PM
Janie 20 Oct 05 - 08:59 PM
CET 20 Oct 05 - 09:00 PM
GutBucketeer 20 Oct 05 - 09:00 PM
Janie 20 Oct 05 - 09:03 PM
Jeri 20 Oct 05 - 09:04 PM
Maryrrf 20 Oct 05 - 09:13 PM
jacqui.c 20 Oct 05 - 09:20 PM
Bobert 20 Oct 05 - 09:23 PM
Janie 20 Oct 05 - 09:24 PM
SINSULL 20 Oct 05 - 09:25 PM
KT 20 Oct 05 - 09:37 PM
jacqui.c 20 Oct 05 - 09:52 PM
Ebbie 20 Oct 05 - 10:24 PM
George Papavgeris 20 Oct 05 - 10:29 PM
Maryrrf 20 Oct 05 - 10:29 PM
CarolC 20 Oct 05 - 10:39 PM
Dani 20 Oct 05 - 10:56 PM
Nancy King 20 Oct 05 - 11:03 PM
GUEST 20 Oct 05 - 11:30 PM
Ron Davies 20 Oct 05 - 11:37 PM
Ron Davies 20 Oct 05 - 11:54 PM
Nancy King 21 Oct 05 - 12:26 AM
Ferrara 21 Oct 05 - 12:38 AM
Roger the Skiffler 21 Oct 05 - 06:26 AM
kendall 21 Oct 05 - 08:15 AM
Janie 21 Oct 05 - 08:20 AM
Ferrara 21 Oct 05 - 08:24 AM
Janie 21 Oct 05 - 08:38 AM
GUEST,Nancy King at work 21 Oct 05 - 11:22 AM
Leadfingers 21 Oct 05 - 02:03 PM
GutBucketeer 21 Oct 05 - 02:27 PM
lamarca 21 Oct 05 - 02:50 PM
annamill 21 Oct 05 - 03:13 PM
GutBucketeer 21 Oct 05 - 04:55 PM
Lonesome EJ 21 Oct 05 - 05:43 PM
GUEST,GUest, Shy Person 21 Oct 05 - 06:04 PM
Celtaddict 21 Oct 05 - 06:15 PM
Leadfingers 21 Oct 05 - 06:16 PM
Peace 21 Oct 05 - 06:31 PM
Ebbie 21 Oct 05 - 06:51 PM
Bobert 21 Oct 05 - 06:55 PM
GUEST,Annie 21 Oct 05 - 07:06 PM
Lonesome EJ 21 Oct 05 - 07:11 PM
skarpi 21 Oct 05 - 07:13 PM
jacqui.c 21 Oct 05 - 07:15 PM
Leadfingers 21 Oct 05 - 07:48 PM
Maryrrf 21 Oct 05 - 07:54 PM
Ebbie 21 Oct 05 - 08:16 PM
GUEST 21 Oct 05 - 08:53 PM
Barry Finn 21 Oct 05 - 10:01 PM
KT 21 Oct 05 - 10:15 PM
KT 21 Oct 05 - 10:34 PM
Amos 21 Oct 05 - 11:58 PM
Ron Davies 22 Oct 05 - 12:20 AM
GUEST,Janie 22 Oct 05 - 12:43 AM
GUEST,Guest Shy Person 22 Oct 05 - 02:41 AM
Big Mick 22 Oct 05 - 06:53 AM
Big Mick 22 Oct 05 - 06:58 AM
Bobert 22 Oct 05 - 08:44 AM
Amos 22 Oct 05 - 09:27 AM
Linda Goodman Zebooker 22 Oct 05 - 10:01 AM
Tannywheeler 22 Oct 05 - 10:25 AM
Ferrara 22 Oct 05 - 10:28 AM
Jeri 22 Oct 05 - 10:32 AM
SINSULL 22 Oct 05 - 12:06 PM
Dani 22 Oct 05 - 12:11 PM
Big Mick 22 Oct 05 - 12:22 PM
Janie 22 Oct 05 - 12:34 PM
kendall 22 Oct 05 - 12:59 PM
KT 22 Oct 05 - 01:01 PM
Big Mick 22 Oct 05 - 01:03 PM
Ebbie 22 Oct 05 - 01:13 PM
KT 22 Oct 05 - 01:30 PM
Dani 22 Oct 05 - 01:31 PM
Ebbie 22 Oct 05 - 01:34 PM
Amos 22 Oct 05 - 01:38 PM
KT 22 Oct 05 - 01:56 PM
jacqui.c 22 Oct 05 - 02:10 PM
Tinker 22 Oct 05 - 02:18 PM
Amos 22 Oct 05 - 03:10 PM
Celtaddict 22 Oct 05 - 03:13 PM
Allan C. 22 Oct 05 - 03:14 PM
Celtaddict 22 Oct 05 - 03:19 PM
Celtaddict 22 Oct 05 - 03:23 PM
John MacKenzie 22 Oct 05 - 03:34 PM
KT 22 Oct 05 - 03:44 PM
skarpi 22 Oct 05 - 03:44 PM
Celtaddict 22 Oct 05 - 03:49 PM
kendall 22 Oct 05 - 04:37 PM
Celtaddict 22 Oct 05 - 04:53 PM
Ebbie 22 Oct 05 - 04:54 PM
Celtaddict 22 Oct 05 - 05:08 PM
Celtaddict 22 Oct 05 - 05:08 PM
Celtaddict 22 Oct 05 - 05:10 PM
skarpi 22 Oct 05 - 05:52 PM
Bobert 22 Oct 05 - 06:08 PM
Tinker 22 Oct 05 - 06:13 PM
Naemanson 22 Oct 05 - 06:18 PM
Peace 22 Oct 05 - 06:26 PM
InOBU 22 Oct 05 - 07:08 PM
Amos 22 Oct 05 - 07:57 PM
Jeri 22 Oct 05 - 08:14 PM
Bobert 22 Oct 05 - 08:18 PM
Amos 22 Oct 05 - 08:35 PM
Peace 22 Oct 05 - 08:40 PM
Bobert 22 Oct 05 - 08:51 PM
Ebbie 22 Oct 05 - 09:12 PM
Janie 22 Oct 05 - 09:23 PM
Bobert 22 Oct 05 - 09:39 PM
Janie 22 Oct 05 - 10:09 PM
Ebbie 22 Oct 05 - 10:43 PM
GUEST 22 Oct 05 - 10:47 PM
Janie 22 Oct 05 - 10:59 PM
GUEST,Dani 22 Oct 05 - 11:55 PM
Amos 23 Oct 05 - 12:42 AM
Ebbie 23 Oct 05 - 02:10 AM
skarpi 23 Oct 05 - 06:07 AM
Bobert 23 Oct 05 - 09:03 AM
Janie 23 Oct 05 - 09:12 AM
Janie 23 Oct 05 - 09:32 AM
Janie 23 Oct 05 - 09:35 AM
Amos 23 Oct 05 - 09:56 AM
Janie 23 Oct 05 - 10:15 AM
Bobert 23 Oct 05 - 10:24 AM
JudyB 23 Oct 05 - 12:48 PM
Celtaddict 23 Oct 05 - 12:58 PM
Allan C. 23 Oct 05 - 01:09 PM
Amos 23 Oct 05 - 01:29 PM
Ebbie 23 Oct 05 - 01:56 PM
Ferrara 23 Oct 05 - 02:04 PM
Charley Noble 23 Oct 05 - 03:23 PM
Charlie Baum 23 Oct 05 - 03:29 PM
Charlie Baum 23 Oct 05 - 03:37 PM
Charlie Baum 23 Oct 05 - 03:44 PM
John MacKenzie 23 Oct 05 - 04:03 PM
skarpi 23 Oct 05 - 04:05 PM
Celtaddict 23 Oct 05 - 04:55 PM
Peace 23 Oct 05 - 05:00 PM
Celtaddict 23 Oct 05 - 05:01 PM
KT 23 Oct 05 - 05:15 PM
GUEST 23 Oct 05 - 05:22 PM
KT 23 Oct 05 - 05:24 PM
skarpi 23 Oct 05 - 05:40 PM
GUEST,Dani 23 Oct 05 - 05:47 PM
GUEST,Giok 23 Oct 05 - 05:53 PM
Dani 23 Oct 05 - 05:54 PM
Ebbie 23 Oct 05 - 05:56 PM
skarpi 23 Oct 05 - 05:59 PM
Celtaddict 23 Oct 05 - 06:06 PM
KT 23 Oct 05 - 06:09 PM
Amos 23 Oct 05 - 06:15 PM
Bobert 23 Oct 05 - 06:57 PM
Ebbie 23 Oct 05 - 07:21 PM
kendall 23 Oct 05 - 07:27 PM
Ebbie 23 Oct 05 - 07:28 PM
Bobert 23 Oct 05 - 07:37 PM
KT 23 Oct 05 - 08:44 PM
Janie 23 Oct 05 - 10:24 PM
Charlie Baum 23 Oct 05 - 10:34 PM
Dani 23 Oct 05 - 11:02 PM
Max 23 Oct 05 - 11:51 PM
Pauline L 24 Oct 05 - 03:35 AM
Skipjack K8 24 Oct 05 - 08:49 AM
rumanci 24 Oct 05 - 09:13 AM
Tinker 24 Oct 05 - 11:23 AM
Maryrrf 24 Oct 05 - 08:39 PM
Ebbie 24 Oct 05 - 08:45 PM
Celtaddict 24 Oct 05 - 09:47 PM
Bill D 24 Oct 05 - 10:36 PM
Ken Schatz 24 Oct 05 - 11:33 PM
Pauline L 25 Oct 05 - 12:26 AM
Pauline L 25 Oct 05 - 02:29 AM
Skipjack K8 25 Oct 05 - 04:42 AM
mooman 25 Oct 05 - 05:12 AM
Jeri 25 Oct 05 - 09:11 AM
Tinker 25 Oct 05 - 12:03 PM
MMario 25 Oct 05 - 12:10 PM
Leadfingers 25 Oct 05 - 12:32 PM
skarpi 25 Oct 05 - 03:23 PM
Pauline L 25 Oct 05 - 08:25 PM
Bill D 25 Oct 05 - 08:28 PM
Charley Noble 25 Oct 05 - 08:47 PM
KT 25 Oct 05 - 08:47 PM
Amos 25 Oct 05 - 09:20 PM
Bill D 25 Oct 05 - 09:40 PM
Maryrrf 25 Oct 05 - 09:58 PM
Nancy King 25 Oct 05 - 10:36 PM
Ferrara 25 Oct 05 - 11:53 PM
Jeri 25 Oct 05 - 11:59 PM
Ferrara 26 Oct 05 - 12:41 AM
Janie 26 Oct 05 - 12:29 PM
Ebbie 26 Oct 05 - 12:50 PM
George Papavgeris 26 Oct 05 - 01:05 PM
Leadfingers 26 Oct 05 - 01:06 PM
Leadfingers 26 Oct 05 - 01:09 PM
Ferrara 26 Oct 05 - 01:55 PM
Ebbie 26 Oct 05 - 02:52 PM
MMario 26 Oct 05 - 04:11 PM
skarpi 26 Oct 05 - 04:21 PM
Ebbie 26 Oct 05 - 04:44 PM
skarpi 26 Oct 05 - 05:16 PM
Ferrara 26 Oct 05 - 05:28 PM
Ebbie 26 Oct 05 - 06:13 PM
Ferrara 26 Oct 05 - 06:29 PM
Bobert 26 Oct 05 - 08:43 PM
GUEST,Lorraine 26 Oct 05 - 09:06 PM
Maryrrf 26 Oct 05 - 09:17 PM
KT 26 Oct 05 - 09:39 PM
Janie 26 Oct 05 - 10:07 PM
Dani 26 Oct 05 - 10:15 PM
KT 26 Oct 05 - 10:16 PM
Amos 26 Oct 05 - 10:18 PM
Ferrara 26 Oct 05 - 11:42 PM
Ebbie 27 Oct 05 - 12:41 AM
KT 27 Oct 05 - 01:19 AM
Tinker 27 Oct 05 - 06:48 AM
Ebbie 27 Oct 05 - 10:16 AM
Amos 27 Oct 05 - 10:47 AM
Ebbie 27 Oct 05 - 11:23 AM
Amos 27 Oct 05 - 02:01 PM
Ebbie 27 Oct 05 - 03:15 PM
SINSULL 27 Oct 05 - 05:10 PM
Ebbie 27 Oct 05 - 05:17 PM
Tinker 27 Oct 05 - 05:58 PM
Tannywheeler 27 Oct 05 - 05:59 PM
skarpi 27 Oct 05 - 06:13 PM
Tannywheeler 27 Oct 05 - 06:29 PM
Allan C. 27 Oct 05 - 06:59 PM
treaties1 27 Oct 05 - 07:34 PM
Charley Noble 27 Oct 05 - 08:20 PM
Amos 27 Oct 05 - 10:03 PM
Ferrara 27 Oct 05 - 10:14 PM
Bill D 27 Oct 05 - 11:03 PM
Bill D 27 Oct 05 - 11:06 PM
Pauline L 27 Oct 05 - 11:13 PM
Bill D 27 Oct 05 - 11:23 PM
Ebbie 28 Oct 05 - 01:50 AM
MMario 28 Oct 05 - 11:24 AM
Tannywheeler 28 Oct 05 - 01:25 PM
Ebbie 28 Oct 05 - 01:38 PM
ranger1 28 Oct 05 - 01:53 PM
GUEST,maryrrf at work 28 Oct 05 - 02:30 PM
Ferrara 28 Oct 05 - 03:09 PM
Dani 28 Oct 05 - 04:44 PM
Bill D 28 Oct 05 - 04:54 PM
Charley Noble 28 Oct 05 - 06:09 PM
skarpi 28 Oct 05 - 07:16 PM
Ebbie 28 Oct 05 - 07:28 PM
treaties1 28 Oct 05 - 07:38 PM
Bill D 28 Oct 05 - 08:12 PM
Ferrara 28 Oct 05 - 08:49 PM
Pauline L 29 Oct 05 - 12:16 AM
Janie 29 Oct 05 - 11:03 PM
Bill D 29 Oct 05 - 11:07 PM
Pauline L 30 Oct 05 - 01:59 AM
SussexCarole 30 Oct 05 - 12:07 PM
jimmyt 30 Oct 05 - 03:12 PM
KT 30 Oct 05 - 04:31 PM
SINSULL 30 Oct 05 - 05:03 PM
John MacKenzie 30 Oct 05 - 05:17 PM
CarolC 30 Oct 05 - 06:50 PM
Catherine Jayne 31 Oct 05 - 06:33 AM
Amos 31 Oct 05 - 09:46 AM
Col K 31 Oct 05 - 12:04 PM
Ebbie 31 Oct 05 - 12:04 PM
GUEST,Nancy King at work 31 Oct 05 - 05:57 PM
Noreen 31 Oct 05 - 06:38 PM
Allan C. 31 Oct 05 - 07:14 PM
JennyDeckner 31 Oct 05 - 07:29 PM
Ebbie 31 Oct 05 - 07:56 PM
jimmyt 31 Oct 05 - 08:13 PM
Amos 31 Oct 05 - 08:44 PM
jimmyt 31 Oct 05 - 08:51 PM
Lonesome EJ 31 Oct 05 - 08:59 PM
jimmyt 31 Oct 05 - 09:07 PM
Amos 31 Oct 05 - 09:08 PM
Big Mick 31 Oct 05 - 09:14 PM
jimmyt 31 Oct 05 - 09:14 PM
Big Mick 31 Oct 05 - 09:18 PM
Bill D 31 Oct 05 - 09:19 PM
jimmyt 31 Oct 05 - 09:26 PM
jimmyt 31 Oct 05 - 09:38 PM
Amos 31 Oct 05 - 09:53 PM
Amos 31 Oct 05 - 10:02 PM
Amos 31 Oct 05 - 11:16 PM
GutBucketeer 31 Oct 05 - 11:31 PM
KT 31 Oct 05 - 11:33 PM
Ron Davies 31 Oct 05 - 11:41 PM
Ron Davies 31 Oct 05 - 11:43 PM
Amos 31 Oct 05 - 11:45 PM
Ebbie 31 Oct 05 - 11:46 PM
KT 01 Nov 05 - 12:09 AM
KT 01 Nov 05 - 12:14 AM
jacqui.c 01 Nov 05 - 07:46 AM
Bobert 01 Nov 05 - 08:38 AM
Mrs.Duck 01 Nov 05 - 09:01 AM
John MacKenzie 01 Nov 05 - 10:28 AM
Amos 01 Nov 05 - 12:43 PM
Ferrara 01 Nov 05 - 03:10 PM
Amos 01 Nov 05 - 03:25 PM
Barry Finn 01 Nov 05 - 05:36 PM
Big Mick 01 Nov 05 - 07:56 PM
Bobert 01 Nov 05 - 08:06 PM
kendall 02 Nov 05 - 07:58 AM
Bat Goddess 02 Nov 05 - 08:06 AM
jacqui.c 02 Nov 05 - 08:21 AM
Leadfingers 02 Nov 05 - 08:34 AM
Bobert 02 Nov 05 - 08:44 AM
Amos 02 Nov 05 - 10:06 AM
MMario 02 Nov 05 - 10:13 AM
rumanci 02 Nov 05 - 11:34 AM
Amos 02 Nov 05 - 11:40 AM
John MacKenzie 02 Nov 05 - 12:14 PM
Amos 02 Nov 05 - 02:18 PM
Pauline L 02 Nov 05 - 02:28 PM
kendall 02 Nov 05 - 02:32 PM
George Papavgeris 02 Nov 05 - 02:49 PM
Amos 02 Nov 05 - 03:19 PM
GUEST,maryrrf at work 02 Nov 05 - 03:32 PM
Jeri 02 Nov 05 - 03:40 PM
Bill D 02 Nov 05 - 03:47 PM
Ebbie 02 Nov 05 - 04:15 PM
Nancy King 02 Nov 05 - 04:31 PM
ranger1 02 Nov 05 - 06:03 PM
John MacKenzie 02 Nov 05 - 06:46 PM
Ebbie 02 Nov 05 - 07:37 PM
GUEST 02 Nov 05 - 07:44 PM
Bobert 02 Nov 05 - 08:07 PM
kendall 02 Nov 05 - 08:30 PM
GUEST 02 Nov 05 - 08:32 PM
Ebbie 02 Nov 05 - 08:36 PM
Bill D 02 Nov 05 - 09:08 PM
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Subject: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Bobert
Date: 17 Oct 05 - 12:03 AM

Well, well, well...

I have just gotten in after a quick 4 1/2 trip to find the P-Vine asleep and me livin' on "Getaway Time" meanin' that looks like a got a couple three hours hours 'til bed time... Ahhh, not that means sleep, 'er anythin'... Jus mean yer layin' in bed tryin' to be asleep with folks playin' music everywhere they can an' wonderin' jus' how much longer you gotta pretend the charade before ya' can legitimately venture oputta yer cabin widout bein' perceived as a party pooper who must turned in before midnight... Oh, one wouldn't want to fall into that category....

Well, I had a lotta fun an' din't want to leave tonight but the P-Vine has her anual respitory thing going and once I discovered that Ebbie and KT had a way back to D.C., I know I needed to be here to do the usual husbandly things to be syupportive, you know, like leavin' the toilet seat up....

But nuff of that hasbandly and toilet seat stuff...

Well, first of all, whilst it was good seein' everyone, especially Ebbie, KT, Amos, Kendall, Jackie, Janie, Sins, CarolC, MMario, Tinker, El Greco, Jacqui, OBU, Rita, Bill, Max, Leadfingure, JimmyT, Lonesome EJ, Dani, etc, etc., it was mighty hard leavin'... Sniff...

But heck with that husbandly, toilet seat, leavin' stuff....

First of all, CarolC ain't as big as those of you who haven't met her think... Yeah, she might whup on a few butts 'round this joint and those of you who have been on the recieving end might have a problems with this but the gal in like, ahhhhh, tiny... But sho nuff she is so get over yhe whuppin's...

Nevermind that...

Ahhhh, the higlight of the Getaway was my mini-concert...

(No,it wasn't, Bobert! Get some sleep, you poor fool...)

No, really the high point was/were:

1. Gettin' to pick up Ebbie and KT in D.C. and drive them to the Getaway inspite of turning the navigatin' over to them and endin' , yikes, in a danged long tunnel...

2. Seein' the Captain and his wife, Jacqui... They are a couple of the collest folks that I know... Okay, Kendall can be a pain in the butt... And sneaky... You all may see a piccure of me playin' his "Taylor"... Never happened... It's a photoshop fake... Ahhh, Martins rule...

3. Last night concert, while great, was capped off with a little berlisqu which was intended to bring Big Mick to his knees but seemed to have the opposite effect on the boy as he has volunteered to do another year as the "Be Very Afraid" man... Whew, I had a feeling that I was next in line... But, it would have been a wast with me since I don't unnerstand 'nuff 'bout womenz to be afraid of 'um....

5. "Most Improved Mudcatter', IMH, was El Grecko... Yeah, he has always beeen good but unemployement seems to fit him well as he delived a moving version of"________________________" a song he wrote about providin' (or not) fir his family... Very, very good...

6. BillD's lathe work are phenominal... He just keep gettin' better and better.... I bought the most beutiful piece I have evr seen him do fir the P-Vine... She is gonna love it...

7. BeardedBruce was quite the trooper this weekend as has came with enough nice dark beers to share with just about anyone who had forgotten ot just wanted to taste something better than the cheap stuff they brought...

8. Was nice seein' Max, who showed up today, lookin' fit and not all car-crashed... Actually the crash has been very becoming to him as he looked a lot better this year after the crash than last year...

9. Fir me, it was real nice to finally meet up with my "contract partner" (street term fir, "stick-man, ahhhh, street term fir, ahhhh...)here in Mudville... W@e got a few code things down so when the Bsuhites comin' messin' wid us' we can mess wid 'um even better...

10. Seriously, I was real happy with the blues workshop that I faciliatted... The mix of folks was real nice and I think, other than electric Chicago blues, the folks who came and contributed probalably did as nice a job of presenting a cross-swection of acoustic blues as could be found anywhere... A special thanks to Dick Greenhouse and Roger...

Now fir the bad parts:

1. Sargeant "BillY" Ballbuster, who is the manager of Camp Rumbleweed, din't seem like a happy camp leader... On Friday night he lectured us like we was school kids about this 'n that and my-inurance-company-don't-like-thi'n-that... And don't put no cigaratte butts in wrong place 'er our "undeerstaffed" staff will have to pick 'um up and "We don't like pickin' yer butts up"... Whoof, whoof, whoof... Guy gave me th4 creeps... Maybe he's mad cause we comin' back next year... I don't know... Think he could use a little couch time witha good theapist... Maybe a little of that polymorphorse perverse guilt??? I don't know??? Maybe just needs to get laid??? (Did you look at this guy, Bobert???) Yeah, that's prolly it...

2. Had to fire KT as a potential "Pedestrain" from my "Sidewalk Bob and the Pedestrains" band 4 minutes into the audtion.... Sniff... Felt real bad about that one since I hired on a harp player 2 mintues into thwe same audition...

3. There ain't Tastee Feeze in Harvey 'n Garce, Md...

That's 'bout wraps it up fir now...

Bobert


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Max
Date: 17 Oct 05 - 01:34 AM

hallo all, me and John are save and well in max's house,
had the best time of my life out there, Thanks to all it's was
good to be at the Getaway, so now i'll just get the airfair
for next year getaway .
John says hallo, well from the castle of Mudcat and max is a fine
man but he demands we called him a god! and the unicorn which is outside in the garden,oh my god.
all the best skarpi iceland

Giok here, words can't express the luxury and opulence of Mudcat Central we were welcomed by bus boys wearing specially designed by JimmyT thongs with the Mudcat fish logo jumping out of a very suggestive place. Anyway must go as the gold plated bath has been filled for me by Max's butler'
God says Hi
Giok


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Roger in Baltimore
Date: 17 Oct 05 - 11:54 AM

Roger,

The weather was most cooperative this year. Friday evening was warm enough that people had song circles outside.

Workshops went very well. (Rita, the new 1 1/2 hour sessions went by quickly. I think the turnout was the largest I've seen.

Bobert's blues workshop was more like a jam than a song circle and that was great. I also enjoyed Jim Bunch and Dani's jug band workshop.

Met a new person, Mr. Schatz who is a wicked way of writing parodies.

Each year, I know more and more people and that adds to the enjoyment.

Barry Finn and his wife Justine were there. Barry is obviously still in recovery mode and he says his singing is not at 100%. However, 50% of Barry is better than many singers' 100% so it was great to hear his fine voice.

I represented Peter and Katrina Cady with two of their parodies, "Socks and a Gun" and "Momma Fried". They were much enjoyed. When are those Woodchucks coming to this.

There were many representatives from outside the US. More and more people coming from England. Leadfingers seemed to be in every workshop I attended. I think we must have very similar tastes.

I know I won't miss the hills of Ramblewood next year. Flat land sounds great to me.

Roger in Baltimore


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: GUEST,WYSIWYG
Date: 17 Oct 05 - 12:07 PM

Applause!

~S~


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: CarolC
Date: 17 Oct 05 - 01:33 PM

Of the three I've attended, this was the first time I wasn't the only piano accordion player there (or at least the only one willing to admit to it), and it was the first time I was able to take a workshop that was relevant to the kind of music I make myself.

We had three piano accordionists, and quite a few concertina players this year. George Ward and Skipjack K8 (Greg Dunn) did a great job of leading a squeezebox workshop. Most of the attendees were concertina players, so that was the main focus of the workshop, but all of it was very interesting and informative, and everyone there got a chance to enjoy some very good concertina and piano accordion playing.

For the first time, I understand on a deep level what Jeri is talking about when she talks about her experiences with Rick Fielding as her teacher, and the special kind of relationship that a student can have with a very good teacher. At this Getaway, I was able to meet face to face, for the first time, the person I have regarded as my only accordion teacher for the last five years since I began learning how to play accordion. Of all the accordionists I've ever heard, my most favorite to listen to and learn from is Greg Dunn (Skipjack), and it was an incredible experience watching him do the things I've only heard him do prior to now, and to be able to learn from him in person rather than by just listening to tapes and communicating via internet.

It was wonderful having so many people from around the world this year. There was an incredible richness of experience hearing all of the different musical influences from so many different cultures. And it was also great to have an opportunity to add quite a few new people to my "have met in person" Mudcatter life list, and to see so many whom I've met previously once again.

Without a doubt, this Getaway was the best one I've attended so far, and I have to thank my husband, JtS, for making sure I would have the opportunity to attend this year and have these experiences.


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Don Firth
Date: 17 Oct 05 - 01:58 PM

Gaaaaw!! Sounds great! I wish I coulda been there (as Bobert would say, "sniff. . . .").

I checked for pictures, but they aren't up yet. There will be pictures, won't there? I hope I hope I hope. . . .

Don Firth


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: jimmyt
Date: 17 Oct 05 - 02:04 PM

Wow, where to start: Well, Allan C invited me, put me up with all the comforts of home in his travel trailer, provided me with an upright bass, allowed me to perform in his song at the program. He and Carmen generally treated me like a king. Thank you Alan and Carmen. more later


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Peace
Date: 17 Oct 05 - 02:26 PM

It looks like y'all had a great time. That's wonderful. Hope everyone gets home safe and sound.


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Bill D
Date: 17 Oct 05 - 03:39 PM

just barely home...more soon.And yes, there will be LOTS of pictures...I took 140 by myself, and I saw cameras everywhere. Of course, some of those folks wont be home for days, so pics will trickle in as people remember what time zone they're in!

It was a fantastic weekend....even by our FSGW high standards! I will let Leadfingers give you his assessment in his own flowery terminology later..*grin*....("Leadfingers", indeed! No name has ever been less appropriate!)

so......back to unwinding and trying to remember how to live without someone singing every minute!

later........


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: jimmyt
Date: 17 Oct 05 - 04:04 PM

How about hearing Scott Joplin's Entertainer on a tin whistle? Did anyone ever think that would happen? Leadfingers should be renamed lightning fingers!


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: KT
Date: 17 Oct 05 - 04:20 PM

Hi y'all. Ebbie and I are here i DC at an internet cafe, trying to laugh without gaffawing out loud and gettin kicked outa here!
More later. Here's Ebbie!!!

Hi!!!
iaa every buddy already. More late. (Not an internet cafe- but a Kinko's. Real pain.

Ebbie

Darnit! Ebbie just snorted and now we're gttin kicked out! Later!!!


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Joe Offer
Date: 17 Oct 05 - 05:52 PM

Now I'm really sad that I didn't get to the Getaway.
I miss Ebbie's snorting.
love,
-Joe Offer-


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: GUEST,KT
Date: 17 Oct 05 - 06:04 PM

Shoot, shoot, shoot, oh, shoot.
Getaway's over. It was such a hoot.
Israel, US, UK and Guam, to boot!
Getaway's too soon over.

Here we sit in Silver Spring,
Lookin' at the walls, not doin' anything
Wishin' we could have just one more sing.....
Getaway's too soon over.

Shoot, shoot, shoot, oh, shoot.
Getaway's over. It was such a hoot.
Israel, US, UK and Guam, to boot!
Getaway's too soon over.


Tske it, Amos!

Missin' you all!

KT and Ebbie


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: GUEST,KT
Date: 17 Oct 05 - 06:39 PM

Shoot, shoot, shoot, oh shoot.
My Kinko card ran out. It gave me the boot.
'fore Iceland and Canada received salute........
Getaway's too soon over.


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: GUEST,KT
Date: 17 Oct 05 - 06:42 PM

10 minutes, Bobert. It was a ten minute career!


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: momnopp
Date: 17 Oct 05 - 06:57 PM

KT/Ebbie - do you always post in 3s?

When I get back, I'll tell you where I'm off to in just moments...

Peace,

JudyO


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: GUEST,Tinker
Date: 17 Oct 05 - 07:41 PM

Is it over ??? I thought we just moved inside to a warm spot and the insanity continued.

Khatt, Micca, Ranger1, SINSULL, Curmudgeon, and Bat Goddess and I sat and watched an hour or so of video and well, it may have a very very short distribution list.

Got to do a bit of chaos control...

Tinker


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Bobert
Date: 17 Oct 05 - 08:21 PM

CORRECTION:

Yes, accordin' to the foxy and talented singer of chic 'n sea songs, KT, her career as a "Pedestrian" was closer to 10 minutes but I'll have to give her credit fir tryin'... Had she come to me and asked me if I wanted to be in her chick 'n sea band I'd said "Heck no" soon as I picked myself off the floor from laughin'...

(Ahhhh, heck, the laugh mighta lasted 11 minutes thereby eclipsin' KT's 10 minutes as a member of "Sidewalk Bob and the Pedestrains" as a member of KT's "Chick 'n Sea n' the Peeps" band by an entire 60 seconds!!!!)

I demand a recount!!!

(But, Bobert, you fool.... KT didn't ask you to join the "Chick 'n Sea n' the Peeps" band...)

Wel, heck, there's always next year... I'll start practicin' all my weepy chick songs right now... Like, ahhh,.....

(Well gol danged, son, you don't know no chick songs...)

Nevermind...

Bobert


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: GUEST,SINSULL
Date: 17 Oct 05 - 08:30 PM

After viewing Tinker's video, I am giving up hard liquor, white wine, and Jacqui Morse. More after I get some sleep.
SINS


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Allan C.
Date: 17 Oct 05 - 09:26 PM

Let's just say that Khatt's performance was over the top!


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Janie
Date: 17 Oct 05 - 09:47 PM

Home safe and sound....had to walk the dog down to the clinic to get on line to start reading about what a good time I had!

What magic! What music! What fun! And....not too terribly cold at night!

I couldn't pick a favorite moment, but I definitely have a favorite performance--Roger's Sat. Night concert song, which I assume is called something to the effect of "It Ain't No Armadillo!"

Once again, heartfelt thank you's to all who make this magic happen every year. All of you talented, scholarly, cheerful, hospitable (and did I say terrific) folks with FSGW who put this together every year and invite us to come and partake of your musical fellowship.

So many delightful people, and I'm sure I'll ramble on about many of them, but I gotta tell you, Ebbie has got the brightest, warmest look about her....like each moment is the first thing Christmas morning!

Janie


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Dani
Date: 17 Oct 05 - 09:50 PM

Great God in heaven, Allan. Snorting whiskey through my nose HURTS!

Wait 'til they see the video....

Thank you, all, for the most wonderful and magical Getaway yet. It was good, if short, time with old friends, and so many new people to meet and sing with. Were there 3 times the number as last year? How did I miss time with so many people and STILL have a full weekend?

I especially want to thank you all for making my daughters feel welcome and comfy. They had a ball. Elena (the Elder) who HATES folk music, and is suspicious of folkies in general, said, "Mom, it's like Cheez-Wiz on sweet corn. I don't want to like it, but it likes me." Her favorite thing was Bobert's workshop: she was blown away. That's folk, too, honey!!

More later,

Dani


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Janie
Date: 17 Oct 05 - 10:06 PM

Joe,

We sure did miss you....and there were brownies left over Saturday night :O)

Janie


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Bobert
Date: 17 Oct 05 - 10:12 PM

I agree, Dani...

Sayin' "see you next year" to Ebbie is worser than a thousand root canals...

Made me cry...

Sho nuff did...

There are folks who we meet that is just as real as real can be... NO, make that realer than real...

Sniff...

Ebbie is one of them rare folks... The only other person that I've met in recent years that lives up to her was Pete Seeger... An' he could learn a couple things from Ebbie...

Sniff...

Bobert


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: GUEST,catsPHiddle@Tinkers
Date: 17 Oct 05 - 10:21 PM

Allan C...I have no idea what you mean my dear boy!! The video no doubt will be used as black mail material....so I will NEVER piss off Tinker and SINSULL!!!


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Rapparee
Date: 17 Oct 05 - 10:33 PM

Well, I'm glad y'all had a good time.

Some of us had to keep the home fires burning while tenting tonight on the old campground along the Potomac tonight while watering the workers' beer.

Maybe someday....


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: jacqui.c
Date: 17 Oct 05 - 10:50 PM

WE just got back after a sterling 600 mile drive straight through by the Cap'n. He's just retired to bed for a well deserved rest. Before the weekend I don't think that he would have contemplated doing that drive - the Getaway has a mighty powerful effect!

WE had a wonderful weekend, full of music and good friends old and new. The time was nowhere near long enough to really get to spend as much time as we would have liked with so many special people and it seems a mighty long time to wait for the next Getaway!

The high point of my weekend had to be watching Geoff the Duck's solo performance of Duelling Banjoes on mini banjo and kazoo. This has to be seen to be believed - the man's a flipping genius!

Thanks to the lovely ladies who put a crazy idea into practice on Saturday night and to Bruce for supplying the ginger again this year. Many thanks to the Getaway comitteee for giving us the opportunity to get together and here's to many more Getaways in the future!


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: GUEST
Date: 17 Oct 05 - 11:05 PM

Some photos of the Gospel and Pub sings on Saturday are at:

http://mysite.verizon.net/vzeoxvdj/

Hope the link works. Never end a sentence in a proposition (I mean preposition).

Annie


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Celtaddict
Date: 17 Oct 05 - 11:47 PM

This was my first Getaway and, since I am not from anywhere near Washington, I thank all of FSGW for running such a wonderful event! I never felt like a stranger, though; everyone was so welcoming, from Charlie and Judy beforehand, right through the folks who encourage non-singers to sing and the guys who let me hang in their cabin to four a.m. sharing songs and the ones who invited me to share silent contemplation to start the day, to being bade safe home when I had to leave early. Of course it was great to see the folks I had already met and to meet in person folks I only knew online. (And a kick when Big Mick and company escorted Skarpi in to start introducing him to folks and we already knew each other.) Highlights? Way too many to sort yet.....


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Pauline L
Date: 18 Oct 05 - 12:13 AM

Wonderful, wonderful weekend. Hear are a few of my favorite memories.

The wonderful times started Wednesday night when George and Vanessa (El Greko and La Inglessa) came to my home to stay with me before we went to the Getaway.

Thursday night there was a music party at the home of Fortunato and Suzette with musicians and singers from both sides of the pond. I didn't believe that the Getaway could be any better than that until we got there.

The musicians I heard and played with were so, so good. It was a humbling and exciting experience for me.

All the squeezebox players.

Meeting so many Mudcatters that I only knew through correspondence: Carol C, Skip Jack, Bat Goddess, Curmudgeon, Catsphiddle, Charlie Noble, Amos, Giok, Ebbie from Juneau, Leadfingers, Skarpi, and lots of others whose names escape me now.

Seeing and hearing Barry Finn. Barry, you've lost some weight, but your voice and your spirit were very strong. I'm so glad.

Seeing people I've seen at some Getaways, but not last year's, notably Claymore, Keith and some of the Shellbacks.

Warm, sunny weather.

Lots more wonderful people. I'll write about more of them later. I'm going to work on getting my photos online.

Pauline L aka Pauline


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: skarpi
Date: 18 Oct 05 - 01:16 AM

Hallo all, still Max's house just came back from playing
with everyone on a Monday gig, it was great. I can't do any more
i am about to go sleep and head home to Iceland tomorrownight
and arrive home in iceland on Wendsday? busted.....hahahah
but i loved every moment of this weekend. Lots of memory
to take back home and experience. thank you all for everything
my loving friends,missing you all very much already.
i will send a message when i am home in Iceland save.I have made a bound with some very special friends witch I will keep in my
heart forever, lots a love to you all , all the best Skarpi Iceland,
sniff...sniff....


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: GUEST,Giok
Date: 18 Oct 05 - 01:27 AM

What Skarpi neglected to mention is that he is going home with a lovely new Taylor 12 string which I covet, and if he hadn't bought it I would have.
Giok


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Stephen L. Rich
Date: 18 Oct 05 - 01:28 AM

WOW! It sounds like everybody had quite a time. I'm sorry that Ingrid and I couldn't be there with you. Our wedding, however, came off with out a(ny kind of normal) hitch. At some point I'll post the story of how we turned te church into a vaudeville theater.

    Glad to hear that everyone enjoyed it. I'm focusing on getting there next year for sure.

Stephen Lee


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: open mike
Date: 18 Oct 05 - 02:57 AM

congrats to the newly weds
and the survivors of the
weekend...
please be more specific
about the crazy ladies
on saturday night??!!

no word from Sorcha...
i thought she was gonna be
there??!!


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: InOBU
Date: 18 Oct 05 - 08:04 AM

Well... hard to come up with a top moment, it was all, really extrodinary... I'm going to put up a post about a Mucat Flicker page... took lots of video and will soon have screan grabs. I am nurcing rather bad tendonitis, as Skipjack (Greg) and I ran all over New York yesterday, great fellow... well met...
Oh the many wonderful faces and voice to put on these friends I knew so well for so long by their posts...
But, I think, one of the most magic moments with all the sound, wonderful sound, as a silent time when fellow Friends and friends of other faiths, had a moment to wait together, in a Quaker meeting, in a house that was a stop on the underground railroad,
love to all
thy Friend and pal
lor


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: GUEST,Tinker
Date: 18 Oct 05 - 08:09 AM

The Saturday Night Ladiew Review "Bait and Switch" was one of those moments that nearly defies explaination. Darriel (Shadowmonk) was kind enough to video it for me;however, it is followed by the late night sing in the dining hall on Sunday night Fellini mets the folk world might make an appropriate title.

We rolled in laughter throught the entire hour of tape, but for the safety of all musical reputations involed you probably had to be there to get a copy. My life would be worth very little otherwise.

tink


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From: GUEST,Mrs.Duck
Date: 18 Oct 05 - 09:39 AM

I posted last night but it doesn't seem to have appeared. We had the most incredible weekend. Thanks to the FSGW for arranging and hosting such a great event and allowing us to join you. I can't single out moments because the whole thing was magic and I have so many wonderful memories to take away with me. Oh and thank you for letting me join the 'Sisterhood of the basque' Jacqui!! So which bin do I have to leave the brown package full of money in??


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From: jacqui.c
Date: 18 Oct 05 - 10:02 AM

I was going to ask you the same question Jane!


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From: Tinker
Date: 18 Oct 05 - 10:15 AM

Quiet desends. One VERY FULL mini-van has left my drive. (After we convinced Bubba he could not be the designated driver) I'm going to have to let the wonderful feelings settle and drift for a bit. So very many amazing people of all ages.

Dani thank you so much for letting me lead your girls a tad bit astray. Koko needed their help to prepare the boudoir for Mick --- it wouldn't have been the same without them...Elena and Holly were both bright lights of my weekend. As was Maddie's bright smile. Now if they can just remember to do as I say and not as I do.... Maddie was absolutely right the Ladies number is not fit for a school presentation...

More later after a long soak.

tink


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: katlaughing
Date: 18 Oct 05 - 10:32 AM

Stephen Lee, congratulations!

I think Sorcha posted in the Lost and Found thread.

Sounds as though this was the best year ever!!

Alba, Night Owl and I have all resolved to be there next year. Skarpi, I hope you'll be able to come next year, too, as well as the rest of you!


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Charley Noble
Date: 18 Oct 05 - 11:11 AM

I arrived back home in Maine around 9:30 pm yesterday, after first dropping Barry and Justine off in NH. What fun we had driving back, hours of stream of consciousness conversation: the Getaway workshops, concerts and after hours sings; our own life stories of how we got involved in doing this kind of music, and the wonderful people and the bizarre people we have met along the way. And every once in a while someone would surface long enough to get us to exit at the proper place!

Now I can hardly remember anything about the weekend; it's all a blur. But I took careful notes and some recording, and if I can find them or access them, I'll report back in detail.

I believe I had a wonderful time. But there are these flashbacks that I'm wondering about. Was there really a large hairy ape in the bed next to mine in my cabin, festooned with with green ribbons and "I love you!" hearts? I'm certain there was loud snoring coming from the corners of the cabin occupied by Brett and Micca; I never snor! I seem to remember stopping off at another cabin around 1 pm where I heard some singing. There I found Skarpi, El Greco, Celtaddict, Ranger1, and several other folks. My next memory was checking my watch and seeing that it was 4 am. What happened? Were we abducted by aliens? Where is my orange boat jacket (but thanks for returning the keys to the van)?

Sunday I was seriously worried about "crashing" in the afternoon but I managed to make it to the Sea Shanties workshop that I was coordinating with Ken Schatz, and came out of that fully energized for hours more of fun. I think we did good!

As a newcomer I really appreciated the schedule of workshops and other activites. I knew some of the folks who were at the Getaway but the workshop format speeded up the process of identifying other people I didn't know who shared my interests. And, of course, I got to meet some virtual friends from Mudcat for the first time.

Thanks to all the people who made this happen this year, and to the many more who have worked as hard in past years. Here's to next year!

Cheerily,
Charley Noble


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: GUEST,MMario
Date: 18 Oct 05 - 11:30 AM

As Always I thank the FSGW! Wonderful weekend, full of to many moents to put in a quick post - I'll have to ponder a bit and arrange my thoughts. The Ducks are off for a bit of sight-seeing in the Wellsboro area - Charmion and Edmund on their way north homewards - I'm just relaxing at WYSIYG's for a bit. One highlight I don't think I will forget for a while is having storytelling, myself and Kendall all mentioned in the same sentence - favourably! It sent me into such raptures I can't recall who said it, but that doesn't mean it wasn't appreciated.

Good to see CarolC and Jack The Sailor again, special thrill of course meeting Sorcha and Skarpi and the Ducks, Leadfingers, and all the various FSGW members. Pauline - it's always a pleasure to see you.


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: GutBucketeer
Date: 18 Oct 05 - 12:41 PM

What Fun!

Made it home from the Mudcat Spectacular in Wilmington last night at about 2 PM. What did I lose at the Getaway? SLEEP! I'm barely functioning today.

IMHO Mudcatters are truly integrated into the FSGW Getaway now. Everyone was jamming with everyone. Great meeting everyone new and seeing everyone old.

JAB


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: kendall
Date: 18 Oct 05 - 01:02 PM

The best Getaway yet!
What a hoot to meet Amos, Scarpi and Larry O.
I really enjoyed the whole thing (with the possible exception of the "road kill chicken)
I'm still too tired to say much more after that 600 mile drive.


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From: GUEST,Noreen @ Rita and Bill's house
Date: 18 Oct 05 - 02:16 PM

Had a lovely long sleep to recover(?) from a wonderful Getaway- so much wonderful music amd friendship, with such a welcome.

As others have said, too much to say in a short post (because we have to go shopping!) but so many thoughts and happy memories which we suddenly remember and share with each other. Ebbie is indeed a treasure, as are Naemanson and Wakana (lovely to meet after 'knowing' them online) and Bobert is Bobert! :0) Great concert Bobert, and thanks for the hints on further listening.

This short paragraph is extending... as is the wonderful time we are having as we are invited to another singing party tomorrow evening.

N
x


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Amos
Date: 18 Oct 05 - 02:33 PM

Staggered home as worn out as a jolly walker on payday, branded for life as a music slut, but what can I say? My round heels are hard-earned. Slept straight through from 5 PM on, and am fit as a fid. Now NEXT year, I promise to be less rowdy and more diplomatic, to drink less and tune better, to do more chick songs and less war songs, and generally to improve my comportment to a standard more becoming of the FSGW. But I had one helluva fine weekend and I cannot express enough thanks to Tinker and Judy Opp and Charlie and all the others who stood to to make it happen. I twas a bloody fantastic happenign, and the memories are just now beginning to crystallize from heated frenzy into heart stopping flashbacks of joy.

It is clear that the Mudcat contingent really adds some special creative juices to the flow of events and I have to say that there are so many really magnificent stars in our constellation I dunno how to name them all.

Thanks to you all, good friends!

A ditty from the MOAB thread:

Mom's Duffel

There's three cans of untouched Guinnes and a dozen cans of stout
I'ld-a brought along the dark rum, but the damn stuff just ran out!
There's a clutch of broken strings to use on over-stuffed trash bags
And half a bag of cookies too, for to make yer bottom sag.
But there's lots of smiles and laughter and a million tunes or two
And a pair of wornout Levi's that are wet with autumn dew
And in the bottom of the bag, until we meet again
Are the thoughts and tender wishes of two hundred folkie friends!
They've been dancing on the tables and smoking on the lawn
And inventing sweet new harmonies to swell the sounds of song
They've been roaring drunk and thoughtful, and all things in between
Oh, this Getaway was the richest thing that I have ever seen.
There were brilliant English whistlers and tawdry Yankee whalers,
There were hearts and tarts and hugs enough to satiate a sailor!
There were songs from early morning til the rising of the sun,
And I came back home exhausted, but I had a lot of fun.
So Mother dear, now I am here, I'll give ya better shrift,
And to prove how much I love ya, I have brought you all these gifts!

A


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: kendall
Date: 18 Oct 05 - 03:09 PM

Is anyone else suffering from "Montezuma's Revenge"?


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Charley Noble
Date: 18 Oct 05 - 03:27 PM

Kendall-

Nothing more than several gallons of beer consumed over the weekend would account for.

Amos-

Nice work!

Cheerily,
Charley Noble


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Jeri
Date: 18 Oct 05 - 03:29 PM

I'm not Kendall. Having been a food facility inspector, I'd wager if it's from food or water, it's from the pot luck or something et somewhere besides the Getaway. I've never had a problem, but I'm a bit wary of re-heated potluck foods. Traveling can also mess up one's digestive process. (I wonder how many plumbing 'events' occurred on Monday morning.)

I thought I was coming down with a cold, but it was just an allergic thing.


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: InOBU
Date: 18 Oct 05 - 03:56 PM

Kendal:
I'm feeling quiet fit... however, having been to sea on a Finnish vessel yougish, me innards would stand up to eating gammy dog and maggotty cat... fact, I think they served us that a few times, so the belly timber at the Gathering did little to dissorder the digestion ( well, except the big long bit of hot air about ANYONE WHO TAKES CHICKEN CAN'T HAVE THE BEEF... then the bugger ran out of Chicken... ) but ya have to larf.
Big huggs all round... other than those of you with the Montazuma effect.... you'll all get yer hugs latter.
Screan grabs to be on Flickr soon, URL to be posted, hope to get EVERYONE's photo up eventually.
BIG GRINS
lor


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Dani
Date: 18 Oct 05 - 05:09 PM

Now that you mention it, Kendall, I have been sick as a dog since 3am this morning. And Janie is home sick with sad stomach ills.

I have unfortunate and considerable knowledge about food poisoning, and just assumed that it was the horrible Taco Bell food we had on the way home. Based on when I got sick, I'd say that if it came from Ramblewood it wasn't food poisoning, but could well have been a virus we passed among us.

CHANGE OF SUBJECT

Re the FSGW and Mudcat: I don't think I've ever had as much fun singing as I did Saturday and Sunday nights in the dining hall. I would surely not like to see footage, as I'm sure I was carried away by pure joy (not whiskey ;) and, like Amos, could not vouch for my personal comportment. But the best part was observing people come and join in NOT AT ALL based on who was there, where they came from, but just based on what the hell was being sung, or shouted, or strummed. Both nights were wonderful melanges of anything that could be called 'folk' by any dictionary, sung by the best 'folk' I've ever kept company with.

Anyone who says otherwise was at a different Getaway than I was.

Dani


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Dani
Date: 18 Oct 05 - 05:27 PM

Hello everybody!~

          This is Holly Black

I had the best time of my life at that getaway!!! Thanks to everybod 4 making my experience the best ever. Hope 2 see some of u guies soon

Lots of kisses, hugs and especially love

Holly M Black


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Peace
Date: 18 Oct 05 - 05:30 PM

If any of y'all have Mont. Rev., drink plenty of water. MR dehydrates people.


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Amos
Date: 18 Oct 05 - 05:42 PM

The only revenge I have incurred so far is Larry Engitis' Revenge, but it's healing nicely. 'Course there's no telling whom I may have disgruntled at some point...

A


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Bat Goddess
Date: 18 Oct 05 - 05:51 PM

No tum or digestive tract disorders from this neck of the woods.

We (Sinsull, Ranger1, Micca, Khatt, Curmudgeon and I in Sinsull's van) arrived in Nottingham, NH after picking up cat Mortimer from Club Vet where he boarded for the weekend. I think it was about 4-ish when all the bags in the van were sorted out and 'Mudge's and my gear were safely stowed in the house.

Since it was still daylight and early, Sinsull drove off to the wilds of South Portland, Maine with Micca and Khatt in tow (Tami, too, of course).

Tom is off at the store hunting and gathering din-din. I've mixed a batch of margaritas for my long anticipated tub soak (and hair wash!!!). Gotta be up at 5 a.m. mañana to go to work. Hope the magazine got to the printer Monday without a snag.

Looking forward to the prospect of walking on flat surfaces. I'll know by the end of the week whether the constant ups of Camp Escher were beneficial to my poor knees or have totally done them in. (Right now I'm leaning towards the latter.)

Lots of highlights to the weekend -- probably the highest of the highlights was meeting so many wonderful people face to face and actually singing with them all. Wow! It was my first Getaway -- and Tom's first since 1969 (yeah -- that was a while ago). Great seeing FSGW people I know and meeting new ones. And a joy to add more 'Catters to my Mudcat Life List. And even better than singing with people was the conversations!

My brain is fried, my body tired, my knees aching and cats are clamoring for attention.

I hope I remember all the promises I made to send lyrics/information/etc. and that I remember to whom I'm supposed to send stuff . . .

Gotta go; more (probably) later (but not tonight.)

Linn


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Ferrara
Date: 18 Oct 05 - 05:59 PM

I'm supposed to be sleeping, while Bill takes Noreen and Stewart shopping. Haha. This is much more fun. And with Bill and Noreen gone out, I can get within typing distance of the computer :-)

All Getaways are wonderful, but some are more wonderful than others. This one wasn't just fun; it was mostly sheer happiness where I'm concerned.

Some thoughts, in no particular order....

I think my most treasured memory is the hour I spent talking with Brett and Wakana. What beautiful people. I'm really glad to know them. Wakana's smile lights up the room.

My mind keeps presenting one lovely image after another, it's impossible to organize it. And besides Bill accuses me of being "effusive." Well of course I'm effusive -- I'm Italian.

Guess I'll start with the Sunday late night singing, because in a way that sums it up. The music was wonderful, but it wasn't as wonderful as the company. I couldn't bear to leave and go to bed, because in the morning we were all going to head for distant places. I was so happy surrounded by people who have been very special to me for a long time -- or had become very special to me in the space of 3 days.

Late in the session we got into a series of unaccompanied chorus songs, one after another, the room just rang. What I think Dan Schatz called "Fat, Juicy Choruses," mostly songs from the British isles of course. Ahhhh.... lovely. I decided I wanted to lead something before I gave up & got some sleep, so talked David Scheim (harp) and Ron Davies (viola) into doing "Rose of Allendale." What a joy! Teresa Tooley, Colin K, and Keith Baldwin were singing along on all the verses (and Teresa saved me on the third verse when a Senior Moment overtook me). And the choruses! Definitely fattening. Rich. Ron and David and I have done that song together at Getaways, parties and events; dozens, maybe even hundreds of times. That time was the best.

The Saturday and Sunday concerts were stunning. It's a sign-up concert, and it can be a mixed bag. This year it was mixed in content, but uniform in being an amazing series of absolutely splendid musical offerings. As I said. Sheer happiness.

I need a new word. "Singer-songwriter" frequently has overtones of "bad." But in this year's concerts we had the finest collection of songs sung by their authors that it has ever been my privilege to hear. Splendid.

As usual I ended up napping away much of the afternoons. Frustrating but at least I got to both hear the evening concerts and join the late night singing. But I can't comment on lots of stuff because I was out of it at the time.... Cold sober, too.... Sigh....

Skarpi, you really outdid yourself in your Sunday concert set. Glorious music. He ended with a beautiful song he learned from Elvis Presley. Beautifully sung! And amazingly, the American accent was quite perfect. There were huge smiles and long loud applause, you bet!

Another joy was having Barry Finn back with us again, and watching him regain more and more of his old feistiness as the weekend went on. And finally meeting Justine! We've talked on the phone several times and of course I've listened to Barry praising her to the skies over the years. Barry, every single thing you said was true but she's even better than that! Boy, Justine, I hope you can come back soon!

The "newbie" contingent was (were?) a spectacular bunch of folks. Absolutely a privilege to meet you all.

Hope to put in several cents' worth more later, but I think I'll get a short nap now so as to sit up later with Noreen and Stewart, chatting and maybe even swapping a few more songs.

Oh, but I do have to add one thing. I brought Tannywheeler (Cynthia) home, we helped her ship some of her gear back to Austin, then she went to Joe Hickerson's birthday party with Janet and Fred Stollnitz and they took her to the Metro today to get her train. We had such a good time driving home from Ramblewood. It is great to have some time just to talk. And to have visitors, so you can sort of stretch out the Getaway just a few days longer.

Rita


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Maryrrf
Date: 18 Oct 05 - 06:44 PM

Well it was my first Getaway (can't believe I missed all the others being relatively close in Richmond, only 4 hours away)and although Monday was spent in a daze at work (my friend Maria and I drove back to Richmond after the concert) I was, and still am, feeling the glow of being around such lovely people and so much wonderful music! Favorite moments - too many to count, although Saturday night's concert has to be among them. I guess what I really enjoyed was meeting so many Mudcatters - too many to list but they were all so nice. On the way back we listened to the CD's we'd acquired both from Mudcatters (I'm afraid I'll wear George "El Grecko"s CD out very soon) and also the stash of great stuff we bought from Dick at Camsco. I'm all fired up and still under the spell of the songs, laughter and cameraderie. Will post more later - but I want to thank the folks at FSGW for putting on such a first class event.


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: CET
Date: 18 Oct 05 - 06:45 PM

This is Charmion and me closing our flight plan. We rolled in about half an hour ago. Many thanks to everybody. I didn't get to the music cabin after hours this year, to my surprise. There was too much happening in the dining hall. I'm glad to say I was one of the die hards Sunday night (not quite in the same class as David Scheim and Lucy Goldberg and Theresa, though).

Special thanks to WYSIWYG and Hardiman for their great hospitality.   I had a great time. As a card carrying Anglican preacher's kid, hearing Hardiman tear through some Chicago blues had a real piquant flavour.

Edmund


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: jacqui.c
Date: 18 Oct 05 - 07:07 PM

I've just downloaded our pictures and, if I've got the link rightm you can find them here


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Dani
Date: 18 Oct 05 - 07:19 PM

WHAT FUN!!

We really WERE there, and really DID have that much fun!

Thank you, Jacqui.

Hey, he may not be much in the comportment deportment (ha!), but that Amos is a handsome devil, isn't he?

Dani


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: kendall
Date: 18 Oct 05 - 07:29 PM

he beef was no bargain either so I hear.


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: momnopp
Date: 18 Oct 05 - 08:01 PM

Well, I couldn't resist the urge to pick up last night and drive 100 miles to Wilmington, DE to hear Max's band and the assorted 'catters leftover from the Getaway play more music. I'm paying for it now, but it was well worth it.

I am sure that Gutbucketeer means he got home at 2 AM - I actually got home a little before then and took a while to settle down enough to sleep.

This Getaway was as wonderful as anticipated; probably even more so.

A toast to Max for creating, fostering, cultivating and maintaining one of the best uses of modern technology in existence -- a venue for people to connect with one another and share friendship and music. What more can a body ask for?????????

Peace,

JudyO/momnopp


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Bobert
Date: 18 Oct 05 - 08:26 PM

And, incase I hadn't done a good 'nuff job, I'd like to thank the following "Pedestrians" fir preformin' wid me at my mini-concert:

jimmyt- Man, you had that stand up bass just bassin' just right...

gutbyucket Jim- Thanks fir steppin' in with yer washtub bass... It complimented jimmyt's and between the two of you, we kept the groove real believable...

and lonesome EJ, thanks fir the great blues harp work... You were where I needed and expected you to be at every change.... Great blues harp work...

So thanks to the band...

And thanks to the folks who came to hear us...

Bobert
(Sidewalk Bob and the Pedestrians)


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: jimmyt
Date: 18 Oct 05 - 08:51 PM

Hey Bobert, my man, I have to say I have never played blues before but I may be addicted. You kick some serious ass with this stuff and speaking for the three pedestrians, it was a blast. Hope to repeat it someday. The whole getaway experience was grand, but that half hour will be remembered forever by one novice bass man.


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Bobert
Date: 18 Oct 05 - 09:06 PM

Novice, hell, you kicked some serious butt, too, jimmyt.... Was a group effort and we laid the wood to 'um...


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: jimmyt
Date: 18 Oct 05 - 09:12 PM

Getting to play in the show with Janie and Allan C, even though my 2 words were OOh and Aah!

Noticing with a smile that the same folks who jeered at the mention of us doing a Kingston trio song were also singing along in the chorus!

Being included in the Buskers with Lorcan, Skipjack and Leadfingers, and having Lorcan thank ne even though I almost screwed up his song with an early entrance on the Low D whistle.

The Saturday night Jam was to me one of those unrepeatable musical moments. Occasionally you have a life experience that later in life you look back on and remember it wistfully and wish you had appreciated it more at the moment. The older I get, the more aware I am of these moments while they are occurring. They are rare times and I am thankful of them. I can tell you all about them becaues you were there but to anyone else there is no use even trying.

Playing as one of the Pedestrians with Lonesome EJ, Jim BUnch and the legandary Bobert in the BLues Mini concert was another such moment.

Meeting Ebbie, hearing KT sing, drinking wine with Micca, trying to keep up with the music and wit of Amos, getting my candy thong from the Ducks, meeting so so so many wonderful people.


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: GUEST,Micca
Date: 18 Oct 05 - 10:32 PM

Here we are in Maine, safe and sound having stopped off in New Joisy to Visit Chez Tinker(Thanks again for the hospitality again Tink) and then a LONG Journey today My Butt is NUMB but my spirits are high.
What can I say about the weekend? First and Foremost a big Thanks to the FSGW snd its Officers, Ferrara, Nancy King, Charlie Baum (and any others we met) for there Magnificent Hospitality and Welcome. EVERYONE I spoke to said how unfailingly welcomed and surrounded with friendship they felt!!
Highlights? Chance and Suzettes House Party on Thursday
The Impromptu sings and Music on Friday
The Birthday/wedding stuff and the "This IS Your Life" Book( I can wait for my little revenges)
On Saturday the The Workshops I got to were great, so a thank you to all involved there and the splendid support from Dave Diamond, Jackie Morse and everyone else at The Parodies workshop
all your work was splendid. and we got around everyone!!!\
Sunday
The Songwriters showcase, it was GREAT to see the support and Talent that came up for this, Thanks to ALL the participants, some really unusual and poignant songs( the love song with the dead cat in the last verse still lingers in the memory!!!!)
the other workshops, a long conversation about Quakers with Lorcan, wine tasting with jimmyt Skarpis Icelandic "Wild Rover" and more so much more. but the BEST is hugging and meeting and re-meeting new and old friends. if I listed them all it would simply be reprinting the list of those that attended, but speciallly KT and Ebby Carol C Janice Cole, Bobert,max,and all you others heres a big Hug from me
The Sunday night Concert
The late night sings in the dining Hall on Both evenings was magical this and so much more, again My thanks to all who have made a Happy man feel very old!


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: KT
Date: 18 Oct 05 - 10:57 PM

My question is this: How is it possible to fall in love with 200 people at once?!!!
Ebbie and I got home a couple of hours ago, still laughing and reflecting on the weekend, as we will be for a long, long time.

It was such a joy to meet so many new mudcatters and reconnect with those I'd met before. Each day was filled with unexpected, delightful "gifts" in the form of music and camaraderie!

As you say, Jimmyt, it's impossible to explain the experience of the weekend to someone who wasn't there. And I do know what you mean jimmy, about being aware of the moment as it's happening. I kept thinking I should pinch myself to be sure I wasn't dreaming. We were really singing with all of those wonderful people from so many other places, acting and feeling like we'd known one another forever. The power of music!

Charley Noble, your description of your ride home sounds just like Ebbie's and mine with Carly. In fact at one point, we talked about the fact that at that very moment there were happy campers traveling in all directions, having conversations similar to ours, at once filled and awed by the Getaway experience.

Thanks again, to all who worked so hard to organize this wonderful event.

Momnopp, no, we don't always post in threes - only when we're at Kinko's. Kinda messes with our spelling, too!

Bobert, even though you fired me, I'm still an adoring fan. And you don't even have to pay me, neither!

I've had Janie's gospel song in my head all day. Have you all heard that girl sing gospel? WOW!

Kendall and Jacqui, 600 miles!!!! Wow!! I don't know how you managed that! Kendall, hope you get to feelin' better soon!

Yeah, Ebbie is a special one. I'd be happy to deliver hugs for all of you anytime.

More later ~ love to all ~

KT


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: GutBucketeer
Date: 18 Oct 05 - 11:14 PM

Playing and singing were my favorite times of the weekend! With Bobert and the Pedestrians, With Amos, With Roger, With Lej, With Scarpi, With Dani, With Janie with....

Amos may have already laid claim to the title of musical slut but I feel that I'm on the same street corner, or door step as it were.

The only person I really missed getting Down and Dirty with the Blues with was MAX! And we made up for that in spades on Monday Night.

My favorite snapshots were:

Seeing Holly trying to be nonchalont and quiet as a mouse in order to avoid notice as the Sunday night jam got more "interesting" (even before Gladiator). Seeing Elena mothering Dani (Mother Goose). What sweethearts they are.

The Ducks (all of them), Dueling banjos on picolo banjo and kazoo - solo. Helping carry the twins back for bed on Saturday Night. Madeline, would be perfect for a starriing role in the Lion, the Witch, and The Wardrobe.

Seeing Janie become a real first class performer, and Linda Goodman out under the Sun during the day, and Up on Stage Saturday and Sunday Nights. What have we let loose upon an unsuspecting world! Be afraid, be very afraid :-)

Counting the tears in folks eyes after George's (El Grecko) song on Sunday night. One of the highest compliments I have ever seen any audience give a performer at any Getaway. To say he reached out to the inner feelings in all of us is an understatement of gross injustice. It was ..... Magic.

My only regrets were not putting faces with names until too late. Sorcha was there. Severn is Severn. Rumanci is Rumanci. Bat Godess and Curmudgeon are Bat Godess and Gurmudgeon. The list goes on and on.

Too tired

JAB


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From: SINSULL
Date: 18 Oct 05 - 11:20 PM

Micca and Khatt are tucking each other in for the night. I have a few minutes alone before I collapse altogether.

Special moments:
Watching Micca trying to decide whether or not the champagne flutes were a joke and always the gentleman, he avoided hurting my feelings with "I can honestly say I have never seen anything like them." The look of relief on Khatt's face when I smashed one was priceless.

Dueling banjos on kazoo and banjo. I finally find the banjo player of my dreams and he not only has a wife but one I like! And three perfect children to boot. Damn! Geoff the Duck, Mrs. Duck and the ducklings. What a treat to meet them them and share their sense of the outrageous.

Theresa upstaged by the gentle Wakana. Who would believe it could happen? Wakana is is another treasure. Brett should thank his lucky stars he found her. And she better take good care of the big softy, or else. Maybe they and Theresa can move to Maine and we'll all live happily ever after.

Tami (Ranger One) singing her first solo. I wish Fred and Julia could have been there. She did them proud.

Jacqui and Kendall doing the George Burns/Gracie Allan thing on stage. The two of them are so happy together - makes me all mushy.

Linda Goodman singing the song she wrote about livestock at the Getaway. Every year she gets a little more visible and bit more willing to share herself. Who could believe that she would end up on stage in the company of demented Tooth Fairies and a Quaker? She too needs to move to Maine.

Janice's Rubber Ducky, Jacqui's Beautiful Dreamer, Tinker's B.O.B., RinB's Armadillo song, Gorgeous Gary's AKIA to "Maria", Serveg's (sp?) brutal parody re: Ted Kennedy, the Storytelling workshop with the talking ducks and poor puddles, Helen's memorial, El Greko's Christmas song that had half the audience in tears, Judy Cook's Buckskin Bag of Gold, Judy and Dave Diamond as drunken farmer and unfaithful wife, Skarpi - WOW, InObu - WOW, etc. More moments later.

I did miss Joe Offer.
Now, some sleep.

SINS


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From: InOBU
Date: 18 Oct 05 - 11:26 PM

JimmyT... screw up!?!?! You were Brilliant!!! Great job, you were extrodinary in the International School of Busking
yer bandmate
lor


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From: Ebbie
Date: 18 Oct 05 - 11:28 PM

Wow. Now, I'm REALLY REALLY glad I went! Since I really don't contribute much to the singing and want to make certain that I'm not just a lump on the sofa I am profoundly moved by your acceptance of my presence. Dang. That is ponderous to the extreme, isn't it! Anyway, thank you.

What KT said about falling in love with 200 people all together is something we once kind of discussed. Our eventual consensus was that as human beings we are supposed (And I don't know by whom or what Bill D. *G*) to be in awe of the essence of everybody we meet, and I think that's not a bad simile for falling in love. That said, I am enamored with you all!

Sunday night I got a tad weepy saying goodbye to those who left early - you know who you are! - but I finally came up with a thought that helps me. It is that alll this time on the Mudcat we have been speaking to each other through a curtain- we can't see each other but we hear each other, we know each other's voices and we learn to treasure each other. Then the Getaway happens- and, Glory Be! the curtain is pulled back, letting us mingle and interact to our heart's content. Then the curtain is pulled shut again- but we are still there.

Later I want to speak of more people but I can't let this go by without mentioning a couple right now: Skarpi. What an absolute love; Bobert. Someone I shall always treasure; Carly. We've almost got a tradition going since we again got to spend a Car(ly) Workshop (Sorry to steal your line, KT!) with her on the way from the Getaway.

Thanks- many, many of them - to the FSGW and the powers that work so hard to provide the opportunity for the music and the people who make it.


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From: katlaughing
Date: 19 Oct 05 - 03:26 AM

Thanks for sharing, all of you.

Rita, from what you wrote, how about SongAuthor?:-)

Next year, folks!


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: skarpi
Date: 19 Oct 05 - 06:13 AM

HAlló all , I just came home after a long journey, I am so glad I did this trip, I got to know a lot a new friends.I suprised my self again
I sang songs that I thought I coult not do and I did it. i am so
busted that I almost fell a sleep in my car on my way home this morning from the airport.
I landed in Kef-airport at 06:05.That Monday gig was GREAT lot of good
music and at last to hear Max´s band playing " WOW " .

John Giok drive safe through this jungle roads my friend, Max thank you for having me for a two days , Big Mick you have a great heart my friend , lot´s
a love to your families both of you .

KT and Ebbie my dear friends thanks for everything I will keep both of you in a special place in my heart and it´s yeasy to fall in love..... around all of thouse great and wanderful people . Micca, Kendall, Georg,Dani,Rumanci,Amos, MMario and I coult go on and on and on
but I am about to fall a sleep on the computer so I ´ll think I lay down for bit.

If shall go forget me never ........
more later.....snorrr snorrrr ( in Dolby sterio ) hahahaha

All the best Skarpi Iceland.


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From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 19 Oct 05 - 06:43 AM

I am SOO jealous.... here's to next year when I will have either persuaded Manitas he wants to go, or else will be travelling on the insurance money!

And I see Jack was his usual self. Did he tangle with the gorilla or was that Alaska Mike?

LTS


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Tinker
Date: 19 Oct 05 - 07:12 AM

Oh, and no one has mentioned Ewetopia who came along with Koko to keep Giok company in a strange land....


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From: Morticia
Date: 19 Oct 05 - 07:34 AM

***sniff***


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From: GUEST,Dani
Date: 19 Oct 05 - 08:01 AM

I'm not normally a 'woo-woo'-type person, but I think part of what makes this such gathering such a magical thing, is that for many people this is an opportunity to be brave enough to be their best and truest selves, unencumbered by the layers that life puts on them at home. Maybe for a minute, for one song, maybe for every minute from door to door.

That's why we fall in love at every turn. We understand that we are TRULY seeing, and appreciating, and being seen and appreciated for the gifts we have (or wish we had and so we give it a shot anyway).

And the energy created lifts up anyone who sees.

As we know from the old fables, if we did it for more than a few days, we couldn't go home again ; )

A few examples I saw:

JimmyT playing the bass in the Saturday night Dining Hall session. His face shone with joy and love as he was swept away with the music.

Tammy's solo Sunday, beautifully done and SO brave.

Barry and Ken, two of my favorite singers, together, dragging up first Theresa, then later Theresa AND Jeri to sing one of my favorite pieces of music ever. Twice.

Linda standing tall and being a lively, joyful spirit wherever I saw her.

Madeline and Holly with their violin and clarinet, chatting and playing in the cabin.

Kendall and Jacqui ANYTIME they were together, their rare, true and comfy love shining through.

Dani


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From: jacqui.c
Date: 19 Oct 05 - 08:14 AM

It was so good to hear Tammmy sing on Sunday night. She has sung at Sinsull's song circles but excelled herself on Sunday. I can remember a time about six years ago, when I first sang solo at a session, just how nerve racking it was (and I know what I sounded like!) so I know how much it takes to do that. It's so good to see talent growing.

Now, regarding Sinsull's taste. Trust me, you have to have exquisite GOOD taste to be able to produce the epitome of bad taste. Mary and I went to a lot of trouble these past few months to find the worst that the local thrift and Christmas tree shops had to offer. We also haunted yard sales every weekend. Those glasses really were her piece de resistance and I salute her for the brilliance she shows in that department.


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From: Janie
Date: 19 Oct 05 - 08:29 AM

At past Getaways I had admired Pauline's violin playing from afar. It was great to get to talk to her up close and in person.

Who knows more songs, Ron Davies or Judy Cook? Amazing.

KT and Ebbie were another two that I had wished to talk to last year, and got to share a cabin with this year! KT popped up from her sleeping bag like a jack-in-the-box with a big huge smile on her face, all three mornings, after just a little sleep!

I adored listening to Annie and Ebbie play square dance tunes on fiddle and guitar. I already knew sister Annie was a fine fiddler--now I can also vouch for Ebbie's picking (not that it needs vouching for.)

This was the year of voices raised in wonderful, full choruses. At one point, I was walking around outside and it seemed like I was floating from one billowy cloud of harmony to another as I passed workshops and groups of people just making music together under the trees.

I agree with others, the dueling banjo/kazoo performance by Geoff the Duck was absolutely stellar! I hope someone got a photo or video of it--the visuals are important to that particular scene!

More later.

XXOO,
Janie


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Roger in Baltimore
Date: 19 Oct 05 - 08:34 AM

And don't forget Dani at the Jugband Workshop. I remember Dani's first Getaway when she would tentatively sing a song. In the workshop, she sang, played kazoo, and danced (!) all over the stage.

Roger in Baltimore


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Amos
Date: 19 Oct 05 - 09:36 AM

OK, Jacqui ... I accept your correction of my diagnosis. Sinsull's aim is impeccable, to be sure -- she certainly hit the bulls-eye with the flutes and the Gorilla Bride routine. I am still laughing at the look on Big Mick's face as he gingerly accepted that hirsute companion to be his own. :D

I never thought I would see so many people of such fine caliber and talent and comeliness and humour combine in one place.

I am still shaking off the after-images after two days home, and expect some of them will linger for years.


A


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Big Mick
Date: 19 Oct 05 - 09:46 AM

I remember my first year at this astounding event. A number of Mudcatters were there for the first time, including Dani, Annamill,Allan C and Jeri. There were other Mudcatters who had been there before such as Marge and Roger (in Baltimore), Dick Greenhaus, Susan of the DT, Caroline and Sandy Paton, Kath Westra, and of course, my first Mudcat friend, Barry Finn. The Getaway was just a bit different then. For example, everyone was expected to do an hour in the kitchen with Debbie McClatchy. Oddly enough, I miss that. I remember peeling spuds and teaching songs to Anna and Honey. In retrospect, it was an important ingredient to being a part of it all. I remember driving home with the rent money spent on CD's from Folk Legacy (Camsco wasn't owned by Dick at the time), singing songs, and becoming absolutely committed to sharing this wonderful event with others. I remember thinking about all the threads that suggested we have gatherings, and realizing that these were tailor made to that aim. I especially remember the instantaneous acceptance and warm feelings that Knitpick, karen k, Lorraine, Carly, Songster Bob, Charley Baum, and others gave to a stranger. This was, for me, like my friend Giok's and Skarpi's experience this year. I knew that I had to have more of this magic, and so set out to encourage others. A number of those that were there told how wonderful it was, and how it wasn't to be missed. We have kept that up, and over the years have met folks that I consider beloved friends. This gathering has become a treasure to be had for the price of travel to it, and the cost of the entry fee. A bargain for the ages.

For those that came, I would hope you would reflect on the priceless beauty of these memories. I would hope you would pass these memories on to your friends, children, and loved ones. In this way, these memories become part of the folk tradition, just as they did for Woody, Odetta, and the others in the mountains of California. While we may not have their notoriety, nonetheless these times are just as important. More so, most likely. It is how we perpetuate our beloved music. It is how we immortalize the timeless values of love and sharing love, of friendship, joy, laughter, sadness, memories, all wrapped up in a song. These are the memories we must share.

Dani, in bringing her children, expressed the best of all of this. She shared her love of them with us. She allowed us to see their love of her. And she infected them, even though they may not know it, with a love of the music. We see the same thing with Geoff, Jane, and the Ducklings. Has there ever been a family that one could fall more in love with? This is a lesson that Nancy King learned years ago, and Dan and Ken Schatz are the yield of that sowing.

When you come to Getaway, you get to share music. Hell, Amos Jessup played about every kind of music there is. When you come to Getaway, you get to hear things you didn't expect. I walk in on Friday night and what greets me? Some of the best Uilleann piping I have heard from our own Lorcan Otway (INObu). Then he plays whistles. Then he plays guitar. This man is a talent of the first order. You get to look up and see the Accordian God (Skipjack) sitting with CarolC and the both of them lost in the love of their instrument. Micca with some of the great parodies, Keith playing the great old time, Bobert tearing up the blues. You get to hear our beloved Ebbie, she of the sparkling eyes that mark the entrance to an amazing soul, sing quietly but beautifully. And you meet and share music with KT. KT has a radiance and a beauty about her that is only exceeded by her beautiful voice, and the amazing songs she writes.

I simply must take a moment and tell you that I love Kendall and Jacqui more than I can say. The Captain, despite the fact that we don't see each other often, is a friend of my soul. His life partner, has become beloved to me as well.

I must also tell you that no bigger heart beats than the one in Mary Sullivan's (Sinsull) chest. She is a pearl of great worth, and I adore her.

But most of all, you get to bask in the love and affection of old friends, some of them just met. You get to drive, fly, ride away full of a special feeling that one only gets by being in the presence of those who only want to share that same thing with you. I have made friends here that will be best friends for life. Jeri is like that. She will always be one of the most cherished friends in my life, and I owe that to the Getaway. Tinker, she of the huge heart and sense of love for all, is another of these.

I hate trying to write these, because someone always gets left out. Such is the way of in the moment writing. But if nothing else is gotten from this long rambling post, it is that you need to start making preparation now for next year. It is an experience you will not forget, and that you will tell to young ones when you are in the rocker.

All the best,

Mick


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Ebbie
Date: 19 Oct 05 - 09:59 AM

sniff...


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From: Tinker
Date: 19 Oct 05 - 10:31 AM

Mick ya made my keyboard soggy....


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: GUEST,SINSULL
Date: 19 Oct 05 - 10:33 AM

Yes, Mick.


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: MMario
Date: 19 Oct 05 - 10:53 AM

ye gods - what can I add to the above? Thank you to all who let me babble on about my family wedding - since I was using the Getaway as a wedding recovery centre - and thanks for not ribbing me when I had to fade early from the late night sessions. Next year I plan on being really back in the swing of things -

I stand in awe of a man who literally sounds like he is sawing wood when asleep - VERY entertaining to wake up and hear that going on - and he alternates between a chainsaw and a ripsaw! Didn't bother me at all, just impressed.

Ebbie - your presence isn't "accepted" - it's a VITAL and NECESSARY part of the whole experience. and KT -- lets just say more then once I have seen the smoking crowd by the entrance STUB OUT THEIR BUTTS UNSMOKED and go running inside at the sound of your voice...

Janice's 'Rubby Ducky' is incredible - the Saturday Night Ladies Review was spectaular; the sheer quantity and quality of the music that occurs all over the getaway is incredulous.

something new for me is to have people tell me after workshops or other times I sang comments like "I was hoping you'd do xxxxxxx, thank you!" heck - Amos says he's the music slut? my arm twists so easy it might as well be a snap-it tool. Just ask!   

Finally facilitating a workshop with people attending it (I have helped twice before - both workshops with essentially zero attendence.

The ladies let me off so lightly this year though - makes me nervous. Probably their intention.


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: GUEST,Marion
Date: 19 Oct 05 - 10:57 AM

Thanks for the stories everyone, and keep them coming.

Marion


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: skarpi
Date: 19 Oct 05 - 11:07 AM

I am just waiting for the date, to come out and I ´ll be on my way ....
to get the ticket.

Memories, is something what I brought home with me a hole lot of it
I still see it in my head all you r faces so happy , thing about
the energy that went through thouse moments :>)))at the GETAWAY

we coult have light up the hole naighbourhood , I guess after a little
sleep I am a little a........... now where was that word again ?
dammmmm I lost it .

Well I gonna go and get my wife from work , and spent some time with her
and the kids, I missed them a lot .

All my dear friends,, thank you " ALL " for this amazing weekend
witch will be in my heart for ever, and thank you all for taking
me as I am , sniff .... now I got sentimental well won´t hurt a bit.

" Giok " I hope you got your "LAMP " BUCKLED UP " in your front seat
while you drive :-))))) hahaha I wish i could see that ,,hehehehe
I know John is gonna answer this one , and it aint gonna be good..

so yeh ,yeh , John I love you to ........

Well , tonight I will have one shot of Paddy´s whiskey and light a candle for all happyness we had..... singing jaja-jippy-jippy-ja
...and you know the rest "In Danish " I will say SKÁL see you all
next year at the Getaway but also alot I hope on Mudcat.org..

Now about Monday gig , I got a moment to listen to Terry on his
mandola and he did well, also did Georg you have a special style
that makes people listen , Dick Greenhouse I thought I heard it
all WOW you were great up there, Jimmyt, that bass solo you did
on your onestringbass was something men.... Giok -John you did a
very special Scottish moment up there , I hope I don´t forget someone? if so please forgive me .
Oh the Max´s band they were realy good up there on stage.
Max thank you for that Monday night , had a great time .

Jæja ( means well ) back to normal live again earn some money and start
saving for the next trip over. Oh and MAx I got my 12-strings guitar( witch I was not going to do )but it kind a said " Skarpi " up on the wall there and well ..... you know .. when you got somthing in hand that goes well.....hmmmmmm i got it save through the terminal.


All the best Skarpi Iceland.


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: KT
Date: 19 Oct 05 - 11:19 AM

"STUB OUT THEIR BUTTS UNSMOKED"

Leo!! This was a brand new keyboard!!!!

The work world is calling and I'm having difficulty tearing myself away from all of you. I have a grand collection of memories which will be food for the soul for a long time. I'll smile at them as I go about my work day, and keep you all close at heart.

More later ~

KT


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: ranger1
Date: 19 Oct 05 - 11:33 AM

I'm still trying to sort it all out in my head, was it real or just a big, gloriously happy dream? If it was a dream, I don't wanna wake up! Thanks to everyone for making a newcomer feel a part of it all. I spent over 20 years believing what I'd been told as a kid "you can't sing." Thanks to all of you for helping me find my voice.

I have so much more going on inside, but it's a little chaotic at the moment. More when it's sorted...


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Charmion
Date: 19 Oct 05 - 11:57 AM

This was the fourth Getaway for me and Edmund (CET), and the occasion of my first solo performance as an instrumentalist (i.e., not singing). On Saturday morning I met a remarkable musician, Mia Boynton of the FSGW, who taught me a 6/8 tune called "Reunion" and then cajoled (shoved) me into playing it at the Sunday night concert, supported by her excellent accompaniment on guitar. I have been playing the mandolin for only about a year and did not intend to burst forth quite yet, but somehow it seemed like the thing to do -- and I didn't screw up!

Edmund and I have decided that the Getaway is more like a family gathering than any other kind of social event. We are already familiar with many of the personal quirks of almost everyone in attendance, and each time we see each other we just pick up where we left off. Some very important things get said, and people do things (such as perform) they would never dare to do anywhere else.

I also acquired an elderly but serviceable Slingerland tenor banjo (rescued and rehabilitated by Bearded Bruce Gewirz), thus joining the ranks of those who make plunky noises. The cats don't seem to mind it; I don't know yet what the neighbours think.


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Big Mick
Date: 19 Oct 05 - 12:09 PM

Charmion, you and Edmund are a real treasure. I just love seeing that smile of yours each year, and I always look forward to a special little something from Edmund. The Oatmeal stuff was damn fine. But not for the faint of heart.

I just want to tell you one thing, m'dear. You have not been exactly truthful here. You said you got through without mistakes. I caught a rough spot. But what impressed me was that it was about one or two notes, you caught it, never hesitated, and played through like a pro. I made a comment to Giok MacKenzie that that was a pro moment. I think you should worry less about "coming out" and just play for folks. I have been fortunate to have played in the company of some very accomplished pro's. None of them play without mistakes. But none of them handled it better than you did. Someone who isn't a pro would have froze or hesitated. You never did. You are there, my friend. Time for you to start playing out.

Much love,

Mick


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Big Mick
Date: 19 Oct 05 - 12:10 PM

And I completely second, third, fourth and fifth your take on Mia. What a talent she is, eh?

Mick


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Ebbie
Date: 19 Oct 05 - 12:30 PM

Huzzah!!! to Mia. At the Harmonies workshop I was agog.


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: GUEST,KT
Date: 19 Oct 05 - 12:31 PM

Okay from work....3 seconds to spare....Just HAVE to comment.....Charmion ~ I had NO idea that was your first solo! It was WONDERFUL!!!! BRAVO!!!

KT


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: voyager
Date: 19 Oct 05 - 12:31 PM

Jimmy Randall
(aka Lord Randall, Lord Rendal, Henry My Son
(aka Hard Rain's Gone Fall/HGRF - melody & meter)

Sung by Sidekicks (Songster Bob & Pete Kramer)
SHOCKED ME (must have been the EELS).

Linking Dylan's HRGF melody a song about eels, onions,
snakes and dogs is why I can proudly say -

    ICH BEIN EIN MUDCATTERS!

Huzzah
voyager
FSGW Shtetl


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: gnu
Date: 19 Oct 05 - 02:31 PM

I have read every single post of the Getaway threads... with interest, anticipation, vicarious glee, and a few tears, happy ones. BUT, when Charmion said, "Edmund and I have decided that the Getaway is more like a family gathering than any other kind of social event.", well, ain't that a Mudcat Moment? Sniffffffffffffffff!!!


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Janie
Date: 19 Oct 05 - 03:04 PM

Annie & Jacqui,

Thanks for the photo links.

Looking forward to seeing more pics!

Janie


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Catherine Jayne
Date: 19 Oct 05 - 03:07 PM

I've finally slept enough to feel vaguely human again and all the wonderful songs, music, images and friends keep going around in my head.

What a wonderful experience. I can now understand why Micca keeps going back!

I have so many wonderful memories that I can't get them all down on the thread and I know I will miss some out. Friday night singing outside,the birthday and wedding party, the open sing in the Theatre Barn, the Occupational Songs workshops where I sang twice, the parody workshop, the late night sings on Saturday and Sunday, the concerts, the finale...now that was *special*!, the harmonies, the singing, the music, the laughter and the friendships made.

It was wonderful to see so many people, those who I've met before and those who I finally got to put faces to names, Bill D, Rita, Lamarca, SINSULL, Bat Goddess, Curmugeon, Ebbie, MMario, Big Mick....Oh there are so many I know I have missed some out!

Now the food....that was indeed *special* I can honestly say I have not seen or tasted anything like it before!

We will definitely be attending next year and will start saving up as soon as we get back to the UK.

Khatt x


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From: skarpi
Date: 19 Oct 05 - 03:10 PM

Yes gnu ,it is
all the best Skarpi Iceland.


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From: MMario
Date: 19 Oct 05 - 03:48 PM

I keep trying to organize my thoughts and try to give some indication of what it was like.

Next to impossible. I don't think Sorcha and I ever bothered with "Hi! Nice to meet you!" or anything of the sort - she sorta pounced on me as soon as I entered the dining hall to register - and we went pretty full tilt from there. have to admit It was mid Saturday before I found out the 'Jack' that had been escorting Sorcha about was "THE" mudcat Jack - but I'm a little slow sometimes anyway. WAKANA and Brett great fun to meet, Brett and I have missed each other at several events over the past few years. Meeting Barry's Justine was great as well.

Carly has spun up a really nice treat for next year - In my possession now are four skeins of a handspun lovely dark alpaca (I'm pretty sure she said alpaca) and silk yarn which will get knit into a shetland style shawl for next year's silent auction. Start saving bucks now peeps - I intend this one to be a wowser of a shawl.


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From: Charmion
Date: 19 Oct 05 - 04:27 PM

Now, Mick, I never said I didn't make any mistakes -- I said I didn't screw up. As I understand it, you can trip all over your fingers as long as you don't let the rhythm break down or, fergawdsake, STOP.

I'm still learning where the strings are on the big mando.


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From: Allan C.
Date: 19 Oct 05 - 06:23 PM

How wonderful to have such a great opportunity to visit with my musical family once again! Honestly, I start missing those folks from the time I drive away from one year's Getaway until the moment I arrive at the next! What fabulous people!

As for favorite moments, I'd have to start with simply having the joy of sharing the Getaway with Carmen once again. For those who don't know, last year's Getaway was where, for the first time in about forty years, Carmen and I reunited. We had been good friends in high school but had fallen out of touch for all that time until a few emails broke through the many years of no communication. We were married just four months after the Getaway. And so, this Getaway was especially nostalgic for us as an anniversary of sorts.

So many of the great moments are lost in the blur of quantity. There were just too many to list. Perhaps my three favorites were:

- spending a few minutes swapping songs and tales with Amiel Shotz, (soon to become a Mudcatter.) Amiel brought the house down at the open mike with his performance of a song he wrote called 'Senior Moments.'

- singing an impromptu duet with Wakana in Japanese. (Well, Wakana sang it in Japanese. I sang it in English and a poor imitation of Japanese.) How lovely!

- performing 'Who's Gonna Hold Her Hand' with Janie and jimmyt. I think this was the fourth time Janie and I have performed together. It is always such a pleasure. Jimmyt added greatly to the performance, not only with his 'Ooh and Ahh' harmony and his remarkable playing of the stand-up bass, but also: who knew jimmyt played the whistle?

I can't tell you how fine it was to see so many familiar faces that I had only seen before in Yorkshire or perhaps in Wyoming or Colorado. It was also indescribably delicious to hear new (to me) voices of folks such as Giok and Skarpi. Wow! Once again I was able to connect a few more online names with the faces and voices of more Mudcatters. I feel truly blessed to have met so many talented people whom I once knew only as bits on the screen.

It was also just unbelievable to get to see so many returnees from so far away. El Greko, Colin, Treatis1 and Noreen had been to the Getaway in previous years and certainly must have enjoyed themselves enough to want to make the trek again.

My own first Getaway was in '99, the first 'official' Mudcat-attended FSGW Getaway. It was fabulous! I can honestly say that every Getaway since then has been even better. Each year I feel as though it cannot possibly improve and yet it does. Not only have Mudcatters added wonderfully to the event, but it also seems to me that the 'new blood' has brought out a new vivaciousness in the FSGW members I have come to know. I was very proud of all of the extra hands I saw this year that helped to lighten the load of so many aspects of the event. Good on all of ya. Cheers also for the tremendous efforts of the many FSGW folks who handled registration, site selection, contract negotiations, menu selection, workshop coordination, THE GRID, and countless other tasks that culminated in this year's Getaway. Thanks to you all!

Once again I find that the Getaway has stimulated me to expand my musical horizons. Each year I come away with a boatload of new CD's, some new songs, and tunes that run through my head over and over again. At the moment, I'm feeling just a little strange not to have a guitar in hand. It seemed to be with me at almost every moment of the Getaway. I will soon need to pick it up again just to renew the musical high upon which I've been floating.

I sincerely hope that even more 'Catters can make the trek next year. As anyone who has been there would tell you - it is worth it!


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From: Janie
Date: 19 Oct 05 - 06:30 PM

Uhhh-Allan? you go to 1/2 getaways?

Janie


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From: Allan C.
Date: 19 Oct 05 - 06:45 PM

Well, crap! That's what I get for pasting from MSWord!


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From: skarpi
Date: 19 Oct 05 - 06:55 PM

My dear Mick , where are you when I need you
All the best Skarpi


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From: Janie
Date: 19 Oct 05 - 07:02 PM

There is so much music, and so many people with whom one wants to connect at the Getaway, that it is impossible to cram it all in--as it is, while you are at one great workshop, you are missing two others.

I like to sing harmony, and duets and trios in particular tickle my ear. Literally. I am always wishing there were more moments to steal to go off with one or two new singing partners to try out some songs. But if I do that--I am missing some great chorus, or a wondrously lovely solo by some one else in another song circle.

And...sis Annie and I don't get to see nearly enough of one another, so the Getaway is also a time for us to do a little visiting.

I love singing with Allan. Listening inside my head as we sing, the harmonic quality of our voices together just feels very satisfying and complete. Those of you who love harmony will know what I am talking about--the physical experience of the harmonic waves in your ears, head and mouth. Now....imagine that with 30 or 50 or 60 voices raised in a gospel or pub song.

What a thrill!

Janie


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From: CET
Date: 19 Oct 05 - 07:46 PM

I don't like picking out any one of the concert performances. I enjoyed them all, but I will say that I am very proud of Charmion. She has been working very hard on the mandolin.

All the Getaways have been great in different ways. This one was particularly rewarding for the times when I was able to share something with old or new friends. In no particular order, a very non-exhaustive list would include:
- getting yet another great song from Karen K, this time a bluesy version of Matty Groves with Lord Arlen's wife getting done in with a pistol, rather than a sword. Karen is the soul of kindness and agreed to send me a recording
- hearing Barry Finn sing one of my two new favourite sea shanties, London Julie and talking to him about how he came to hear it. I first heard it sung by a young fellow in a pub session in Goderich, Ontario this August and immediately knew I had to learn it. He told me he got it from a Johnson Girls CD. When I bought the CD I found that the Johnson Girls got their version from Barry. (My other new favourite shanty is Won't You Help Me to Raise 'em, which Barry also sang, together with Theresa, Jeri and Ken)
- listening to the CDs I bought from Dick Greenhaus on the way back, and thinking "I have to learn that song, and that one, and that one, ..."
- getting some positive feedback from people whose opinion I respect
- chatting with Lonesome EJ, who suggested I should learn to play the guitar (well, it could happen!)
- hearing some great violent and bloody songs at the workshop that Charmion and Sue Mathieu and I led. I wish we could have got heard from everybody. There were just too many people, and its the nature of a good story song that it often requires more than 3 or 4 verses. I hadn't met Sue before and I loved her powerful voice and her repertoire. I hope we get a chance to sing together again.
- singing a song, not expecting accompaniment, and actually having Ron Davies and David Scheim and Leadfingers joining. It don't get better than that.

By the way, MMario, you led a great workshop. Everyone who was there enjoyed it.

Edmund


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Big Mick
Date: 19 Oct 05 - 07:49 PM

Yep, Edmund, getting to know LEJ was a trip. I really enjoyed his mouth harp playing, especially when he chimed in on the blues. He takes his "Lonesome" thing very seriously. Took me almost a full day to get him to talk..............****chuckle****

All the best,

Mick


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Bobert
Date: 19 Oct 05 - 08:00 PM

Well, havin' survived the chicken flu, 'er just a lack of sleep, whatever... I'z got my second wind and it's story time...

Now I might be repeatin' some stories but6, hey, amnesia ain't all that bad... Get to meet new friends every day...

Okay, havin' appointed myself "Adouring Fan" fir KT's concert I found a seat close enough to her to do the best adorin' fan thing as I could, which weren't all that hard since she sings buatifully... But just as her concert was to begin, Ebbie decided that the bill of my "Rhehobeth Beach" ball cap would be the perfect place to clip the microphone to her recorder... So there I was, designated "adoring fan" and newly appointed human mic stand with this wire runnin' from the cap, down my face and to the little recorder on my lap...

Well, I could tell that KT hadn't made it visually to the "adoring fan" section and figgured that the longer it was before she looke4d over and saw the adoring fan/humanmic satnd Bobert, the worse it was gonna be on her... Well, it had to come and she was in the middle of this song where the lyrics are supposed to go "pay the bills" and after seein' the poor Bobert as "adoring fan/human mic stand" it came out "pay my blues"....

Well, I believe in Freudian slips so I figgured that meant she was gonna try harder to make it in next years "Sidewalk Bob and the Pedestrians" as a full fledged "Pedestrian" but weren't gonna be this year....

Kendall story next...

Bobert


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From: Bobert
Date: 19 Oct 05 - 08:23 PM

So it's probably no secret here that Kendal and I have been playin' out the Martin v. Taylor fued over the last couple weeks so I figured that when we got together the feud would intensify before peace took over...

Well, sniff, first of all I loves Kendall so I ain't goina' keep no feud going too long wid him even if it is jus a funnin' fued... So I reckon I hadn't been there fir three hours when somehow Kendall was apssin' his beloved Taylor to me to give it a try and, sniff, I must admit that if I weren't born a Martin playwer, I most likely woulda been born a Taylor man... But did I let that out Friday night??? Well, heck no...

Now I know Kendall was real intersted in hearin my Martin but seein' as I had a couple resonators, and seein' as I had the Martin loaded with a special Bobert tunin' that I din't want to debut until my miniconcert, I kept it undeer wraps but told Kendall if he wanted a looksie and hearsie at my D-18 he's have to come to my mini-concert, which he did (BTW, I was honored by his presence...) and got his first look and hear at my Martin... He never did quite get say that it sounded good but we both know it did...

But no matter...

About an hour before leavin' Sunday night, Kendall, Amos and I were out jus' messin' 'round and turned out that I was offered a second opportunity to play Kendall's Taylor... Seein' as Amos had been playin' some fine more traditional stuff I played John Prine's "Paradise" on it this time and it played real swaet and sounded purdy good, too... I was 'bout in the middle of the song when I look up and there is Kendall, wtih a big ol' grin on his face 'cause he's got a camera catchin' me playin' his Taylor... Reckon he had me so what's a man to do but just "fess up"...

Yeah, I did it an' ya know what??? I'm glad I did... Nice guitar... Not quite4 as nice as my Martin but I reckon had he played my Martin he's be sayin' the same thing...

But that ain't the end of Kendalll story... Seems that a low limb took out my antenna on the Suburban on the way up to the Getaway leavin' only the casette player and me without a single casette tape to stuff in it...

So I went in where the CD's were being sold and the only casette that I saw was Kendall's "Beginner's Luck" and picked it up an was prepared to buy it when Kendall said, "Put it in yer pocket" and fir the 5 hour drive back home it was me, moonlit skies, the Suburban and Kendall...

Nice combination...

Amos next...

Bobert


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From: Big Mick
Date: 19 Oct 05 - 08:26 PM

Jest a minute there, ridgerunner. You are going to have to get in line to be the #1 Adoring Fan. I was there first. Twas me that started exchanging emails with the lovely KT. She has been my Northern Muse for quite a while. Twas me that slipped down to DC and picked her and the darling Ebbie up first. You certainly can be the XO.

Mick


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Bobert
Date: 19 Oct 05 - 08:38 PM

Well, in case you above the liners don't know it, down unner Amos and I have been like the Two Musketeers in stickin' it to Bush every chance we get... Oh yeah, there are plenty of others, like diavan, Ebbie, et al, but Amos and I have had this strong bond between us so meetin' himm face to face was prolly the most special thing about this Getaway, other than the other dozen 'er so things that I reserve the right to later say were the most special...

Jus' funnin'...

Well, I certainly would like an opportunity to spend some real time wid him, sniff, but I'll galdly take waht we got...

Fir those of you who think that Amos is some guy with way too much time on his hands here at Mudville with his anit-Bush stuff, you all have missed alot... Amos is not only a great person to hang with but a rightm decent guitar player, who can play it all... Lotta folks can't play it all but he sho nuff can... Sea shanty ballads, blues??? Don't mean nuthin' to Amos... Heck, I reckon you could plug him into playin hip-hop and he'd tear it up...

Sniff...

I wished I'd had more time with Amos....

So here's my resolution... Next year I'm gonna spend twice as much time with everyone...

Next, BillD...

Bobert


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From: jacqui.c
Date: 19 Oct 05 - 08:43 PM

Mick and Bobert - I think that you will have to stand aside as far as #1 fan is concerned.

That duty falls to my husband who has hardly stopped talking about her since they first met last year. Luckily I'm her #2 fan so there's no problem there. Just you lot get in line please.


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From: Susan A-R
Date: 19 Oct 05 - 08:49 PM

Next year without fail!!


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From: Bobert
Date: 19 Oct 05 - 09:04 PM

Well, unbeknownst to alot of folks, BillD not only is married to the beautiful Rita (Ferrera) but is also quite an artsit in his own right... He works on a lathe and makes some to the nicesst stuff that you'll ver see...

This year, no different...

I showed up Friday evenin' and Bill was jsu settin' up so after the pot-luck supper, I ventured back to check out his stuff...

Well, sometimes a piece will just jump out at you and this was the case as I spied a very interesting bowl turned from a red-gum... Though being a plant kinda guy, I din't know what a red gum was, but I sho nuff knew that I was loookin' at one fine piece of art so...

... I said that if it6 made it til' Sunday and I hadn't blown the money I took to the Getaway that I'd buy it...

...luck would have it and I know have this wonderful BillD piece of art to go with the one that I got last year....

Imean to tell ya' all, this is one fine bowl.... No, won't hold no cereal but no where is written in stone that a bowl ahs to hold anyting, other than beauty...

Thank you, Bill....

Bobert


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: jacqui.c
Date: 19 Oct 05 - 09:21 PM

One of Rita's wonderful pendants actually spoke to me and told me that I needed it and that it wanted to go home with me. Luckily I had sufficient funds to make sure that this beautiful piece of work got a good home.

What a talented pair of people they are!


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From: Edelweiss
Date: 19 Oct 05 - 09:43 PM

I just wanted to post a note of thanks to Mary, Jackie and Tinker, and all who helped to make the wedding and birthday celebration so special. The champaign glasses are gorgeous, Mary - we'll have the champaign in them to celebrate our first anniversary! And I love the shawls! I can't tell you how much it means to me to have someone take the time and effort to make something of themselves to give away. Thank you both, Jackie and MMario from the bottom of my heart!!

What a warm welcome into a wonderful community! I can see why Allan enjoys this event and the commaradarie so much. I look forward to joinging him again for future Getaways.

Carmen


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: KT
Date: 19 Oct 05 - 09:52 PM

Blush....... ...I'm just holding up mirrors for you. It's your own wonderful selves that are shining so brightly and it's your own reflection you're seein'.   And that goes for alla  y'all!

Carmen, I'm so glad you've joined. Hope to see more of you around here!

KT


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From: Ebbie
Date: 19 Oct 05 - 10:22 PM

OK, KT. Speak truth I must...

I am KT's #1 Adoring Fan. And I'm not certain but that if we added her Juneau fans to the list that all of y'all wouldn't slip even further. But in the spirit of kindness, not to mention the fact that her Juneau fans won't see this conversation, I will graciously grant #2 spot to the most persistent and vociferous amongst you.

On the other hand, there is room in my soul for me to be Adoring Fan for lots more than just KT. Every one of you is on MY list.


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From: KT
Date: 19 Oct 05 - 10:38 PM

And mine, Ebbie.

Ebbie and I talked and talked and talked on Monday afternoon and evening and we're still raving about all of you. Our friends and family here nod politely when we start in about it. (And we know they must be thinking, how long are they going to go on about this? It couldn't have been that wonderful!)

But we know it was. There was so much GOODNESS at that camp. And it wasn't just in the form of music!

Sigh.......

KT


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From: Dani
Date: 19 Oct 05 - 10:53 PM

Welcome, Carmen!

I want to second what Charmion said about family. I explained to my girls when we arrived that it would be JUST like a family reunion (for better or worse!), only you haven't met 'em yet. Long-lost family you've only seen pictures and heard stories about! And, they certainly felt that way.

I also want to second Ranger1's thoughts on singing. Tammy, a few short years ago, I was in your boots. And, at one point so was Janie. Now they can't shut us up. It don't mean I'm all that good, just that the joy of making music cannot be held in, and I know that it's beautiful when done with the right spirit no matter what.

To people who've been brave enough to find our voices, it's the Getaway that give us the courage to keep it up. El Greko, you will never what a gift you gave by opening the door to the Byzantine hymn sing, and allowing a musical novice like me to stretch my brain and my voice. I'm not sure I want to see or hear a recording of that performance, but it felt so good to TRY to do it well, and to sing with you. You are a gifted teacher and an inspiration. Thank you.

Dani


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Tinker
Date: 19 Oct 05 - 10:54 PM

KT it never fails to stuptify me how the general good-feeling and energy of Getaway seems to grow geometrically at an amazing rate all weekend long. When other events seem to wind down, this one sweeps us up and out on the tide of our own best selves.

I came home to one of the assignments my artistically challenged household dreads. Creating superheros that fit the definitions of mixture, compound, atom, etc. Well why should I fear ??? Micca and Ms Mary handily took over and created Stinky Sulfer man and Ms Tea (She looses all power at 4pm til she refuels on tea and cookies) and several others I can't quite recall....we had our own intercontinental work group.


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From: Janie
Date: 19 Oct 05 - 11:35 PM

Hi Carmen!

It is so good to see you and Allan together. And the day will come, I'm counting on it, when you and I will sing together.

What Dani said. The experience of the Getaway has helped us to sing out. As I watch and listen to so many of the FSGW folks, I am in awe of the community of music and acceptance you have created, and wonder about all the many people whom you continue to empower to sing and share music together.

Can we do it again next weekend?

Janie


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Big Mick
Date: 20 Oct 05 - 12:44 AM

Sorry Jacqui. I have seniority on the lot of you. I believe I can lay claim to the first Mudcat friend of our darlin' KT. I will gladly accept #2 fan, but only to Ebbie. She was there before I was. The Skipper might be completely taken with her, but he is a Kendall come lately in this contest.

Carmen and Allan, congrats again.

Mick


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From: Celtaddict
Date: 20 Oct 05 - 12:57 AM

Skarpi, I KNEW on Saturday morning the guitar was going home to Iceland; glad you came to your senses and took it! (and that it arrived safely)
(jaja-jippy-jippy-ja indeed)
MMario: the ladies let you alone? Weren't you paying attention??? The only reason I don't keep just begging for songs anyway is you are always there ahead of me. And you TOLD me about wedding pictures but you never showed me any!
Mick, when they dubbed you "Big" they obviously meant your heart!
Lorcan: what was I thinking? More silence instead of breakfast next time for sure! And I will get that picture of you to Eugenie.
BillD, the wood is wonderful.
I was amazed to find out how often people I knew individually, on the 'Cat or in person, turned out to be linked together.
Two questions:
Does anyone have a list of all the Mudcatters present? Not all were identified on the typed listing. I met so many, but keep finding reference in this thread to ones I did not meet! (How could I feel my weekend was so gloriously full and still keep reading all these things I did not see and hear? More than enough glory to go around, for sure.)
And how did I end up with 42 new CDs in my car?


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From: Celtaddict
Date: 20 Oct 05 - 01:05 AM

And MMario, after hearing "Back in the Clydesdales" from you at about 0200, I was at the benefit in Alexandria and Seamus Kennedy sang it there! (He sings it "a beer that is true" which doesn't sound right to me.)


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Big Mick
Date: 20 Oct 05 - 01:06 AM

Let's see:

Celtaddict
Skipjack
Carol C
Jack the Sailor
Jeri
Bobert
Tinker
InObu
Lonesome EJ
Charley Baum
Ferrara
Bill D
KT
Ebbie
MMario
Gutbucketeer
Kath Westra
Noreen Keene
Geoff the Duck
Severn
Claymore
Giok MacKenzie
Skarpi
Ranger1
Dani
Janie
Annie
Knitpick
Big Mick
Amos
Dick Greenhaus
Susan of DT
Pauline
Allan C
Edelweiss
Kendall
jacqui C
MadLion
Col K
catsphiddle
Micca
Sussex Carole
Cranedriver
Mary Lamarca
George Ward
Songster Bob
Leadfingers
Momnopp
bearded bruce
CET Charmion Sinsull Charley Noble Roger in Baltimore
It's one o'clock, and I am tired. I know I am forgetting someone, but I must sleep.

All the best,

Mick

perhaps Mrs. Duck? -jc


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Bobert
Date: 20 Oct 05 - 07:46 AM

Ahhhh, not to split hairs on the "adorin' fan" front but until one has spent a half an hour at one of her performances with a microphone clipped to one's head #3 is about as far up the latter that one can rightfully claim...

I have earned my rankin' the old fashion way as a human mic stand which gets me at least a solit #2 with serious claims on the #1 posotion...

Sorry, Mick, but seems you have held onto yer #1 position of the *be-very-afraid* male fir which you can have, thank you...

Bobert


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: jacqui.c
Date: 20 Oct 05 - 07:53 AM

So nice to see you on Mudcat Carmen. I'm glad you liked the shawl, I love making them, especially when I have the recipient in mind while the work is in progress.

I agree with Charmion and Dani - the Getaway is a family reunion and I love my folk family very much. Yes, there is a goodness about the atmosphere that just grows as the weekend progresses. That goodness allows us to give 110% of ourselves in every song or tune we make and gives a secure place for the shyer ones or the novices to show what they can do.

Oh, and Mick, so far as fanship of KT is concerned - BITE ME!


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Dani
Date: 20 Oct 05 - 08:01 AM

That reminds me, Jacqui: will you share the "Beautiful Dreamer" song that nearly caused me to fall off the table laughing?

And, MMARIO!! I had no idea you are doing Mike's song. How could I miss that?! So, he was there in spirit...

Dani

PS: Joe Offer, have you bought your tickets for next year yet? You were missed.


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Amos
Date: 20 Oct 05 - 08:35 AM

Double-seconded that, Joe Bro... if you haven't made clear plans for Getaway next year you may find yourself looking around the inside of a brown paper bag while being hustled through dark passages by several burly men wearing ski-masks. :D

A


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Big Mick
Date: 20 Oct 05 - 08:49 AM

It's all just talk, youse bunch of brayin' mules. We all know who was responsible for gettin' KT and Ebbie to Getaway to begin with, and who knew the words to her song about the Skipper before she knew who it was about. I can, at this moment, recite words to her songs that you have yet to catch on to, and ............ are you ready??? ...... She has written lyrics for a song about an idea I had and couldn't get down in words. All this was before the first time any of you had met her.

HAHAHAHAHAHA ... Take that you bunch of pretenders.

Facts are that this woman has enough talent and charisma for all of us.

Mick


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: wysiwyg
Date: 20 Oct 05 - 09:52 AM

I guess I will go ahead and post my own reflections in this thread, tho I wasn't at Ramblewood... since several have mentioned their stop at our house as part of their Getaway experience.

Leadfingers introducing my stressed-out pastor-husband to Tom Lehrer in return for learning Hardi's version of "Built for Comfort" (played on SINSULL'S guitar).

Responding to Charmion's question "why doesn't it feel like meeting new people" when first meeting Catters, by explaining my sense of it-- that it's not so much that Catters are "friends" in advance, as that we are all cousins in a particular large, spread-out family. Something I've tried to express so many times as I've met Catters in turn.... Finally got it right, judging by the agreement expressed here with the "family reunion" concept.

LilyFestre's face as she saw, for the first time, what it is really like when one turns one's home into an impromptu Mudcat camp-- after having done a good share of the work to prepare for their arrival, purely out of faith in Mudcatters and her deep, intrinsic niceness.

Cousins' faces in our dusty dining room over dinner as they discovered each other's hearts and as other cousins of all ages did the same throughout the downstairs, with our large prison trays on tables, laps, floor, and everywhere.

Gobsmacked-looking Catters staggering in from the Getaway, babbling happily but somewhat incoherently till revived with quiet hosting and warm chairs; song bursting out as revivification took effect.

Everyone appreciating REAL COFFEE in the proportion Hardi uses for filling the grounds basket (fill the filter half-full).... Others making pots and pots of the same strength, in turn.

Sneaking Hardi into the loo in the middle of an energetic jam, to help me fish out my freshly-cleaned wedding ring from the sink drain before it disappeared into the septic field. Reading a book to Mootlefish, later, in the middle of this same jam, eventually attracting even busy Rowan to pause for a moment of magical child-mind dreamtime.

CET spotting the hostess going after folding chairs, following her into the bowels of the house's storage section; taking the handed-out chairs; carrying them through the house's many, many doorways to their destination-- one trip with his strength and height that would have been four rough ones for me alone. Rowan helping to fold and stow the chairs in a handy spot, later; Rowan helping to deploy them again when needed later.

Mmario's relaxed command of the breakfast kitchen, the morning after he noted other meals' items no one else happened to have brought, and slipped out to go get them so the hosts would not end with an empty pantry.

Madlion taking a needed break from big-sistering, to make a dinner salad anyone would have been proud to serve; the same big sister the next day offering her little brother her front-seat position on the way home from the mountain spring, because "it will prevent a lot of trooble."

Geoff and Mrs. Duck sinking into the recliners when I took the children away for their outing to the sunwashed, gushing spring. Rowan and Mootlefish screaming most luridly when I announced that rolling around the back of the van, entirely unsecured, means their job on the trip will be to scream quite thoroughly at every lurch. Children proudly serving the fresh, cold water to parents who finally looked relaxed.

Rowan running madly toward my camera any time he saw it aimed his way, so that most of his pix show a joyous, leering closeup of one of his remarkable wizard's eyes.

Mollie's wise and quirky smile flitting across her face, eyes like licked stones framed in that adorable haircut and gracing her slim, expressive dance through everything.

Mrs. Duck's immediate appreciation that I had shown Rowan how to use a magic stone as a false eye, monocle-style-- rather than the glass booger up the nose I quietly suggested to her might also have been an interesting alternative.

Slowing my mind down enough to listen in rhythm with Geoff's cadence as he reached for concise translation to sketch what USers don't know about English economics of the recent and present period.

The way the dishwasher seemed to hold more and more each time I reloaded it or Madlion helped to unload it.

Duckling faces and pajamas emerging in the early morning mountain light before Mum and Dad were up.

The beautiful table laid by Ducklings during the hour it took Hardi, Maddie and I to set up the spaghetti supper-- one utensil/decoration at a time because it was something fun to DO.... Mum and Dad watching the process; their amazement when eventually invited to take their places at the beautiful result.

The surprise of each visitor, in turn, as they encountered our quite unusually-temperamented critters and realized that we had NOT exaggerated nor romanticized these amazing individuals' characters.

The persistent presence of slanting sunshine on fall foliage during days forecast to be quite gloomy and wet-- following a long, solid week of cold, slam rain and depressing skies.

Geoff seeing deer moving far up on the ridge across the road, at the treeline, in the very place where their movement often captures my attention while composing Mudcat posts; this in the midst of bowhunting season when the deer more usually vanish upcountry.

Mootlefish's thank-you PM, composed right here on departure day while I sat waking up in my recliner; Madlion's whispered tip later what Mootlefish had done and said, thinking her PM had most surely NOT gone through, just so I would know.

Pontefract cakes and Yorkshire tea.

LOST AND FOUND-- Rowan's green beads, and I'll try to get them to the Duck's last stop before flight home.

They're gone just under 24 hours.... and... our home and hearts are forever full of them.

Pardon the typos and tangled edits-- you know how it is.

~Susan


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Ferrara
Date: 20 Oct 05 - 09:53 AM

There were more Mudcatters but right now I can only think of two:

Lorraine
Judy Cook
Gorgeous Gary
Linda Goodman (or is she in Mick's list?)

Okay, so I can't count.

Speaking of which (Mudcatters), I have to agree with Dani that this year we were ONE group in almost every way. It was all people. Music people.

There are so many people and so many musical interests that you can expect various groups to go off by themselves, that has always happened. But there was also a very solid core of musicians who stayed in the center of things, so to speak. The singing in the dining room and TV rooms was dynamite all weekend, and people got to enjoy one another's unique contributions and come to appreciate one another's unique talents.

One thing that I noticed this year even more than usual, was the visual richness of the Getaway. It's always been fun and interesting to see the clothing and accessories that people choose to wear but I think most of you would agree that the variety this year (even without the Ladies of the Club's late-night variety act) was stunning.

Lorcan's Quaker Preacher clothing, including the cloak, was possibly the most dramatic, especially because of the incongruity of seeing him in it while playing the pipes. Geoff the Duck's clothing was the most startling IMO. I love it Geoff. Janice Cole used to bring feather boas and wear different ones all weekend to go with her torch songs (such as Rubber Ducky....). I miss them. There was a grand assortment of hats this year. And I'm hoping to put up a photo taken by Dave Diamond of the Molineaux wearing two of the brightest tie-died outfits I've ever seen.

The energy that people put into getting the work done was very much appreciated, especially the Silent Auction (Janie, Jacqui, Tinker, who else?) and the Friday night potluck cleanup. I went to bed early, later heard that many hands made light work of the potluck cleanup. But my image is of Janie at about 10:30 PM, so tired she looked dazed, carefully figuring out what to do with each bowl of leftover food, one at a time, and very slowly carrying them to their ultimate destination (fridge or circular file). I sent several people over there to help her but was too whacked out myself to assist in any more material way.

Sinsull, can you post the story of Micca and the champagne glasses, the way you told it to me? And if any of them remain unbroken, can someone post a photo?

Rita


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: karen k
Date: 20 Oct 05 - 10:03 AM

Hey Mick, you left me off your list.

k


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: MMario
Date: 20 Oct 05 - 10:04 AM

dagnabit - a nice long post just vanished into the ether!

yes - I do several of Mike's songs - sang 'Back in the clydesdale' a couple of times that I remember - and did 'first Kill' at least once over the weekend. [I take liberties with the words of 'Back in the Clydsedales - but there weren't no yuppies in 1585 - and heck, I had to invent a whole new history for Budwieser, but when you have a good song, what's a few historical facts!] [besides - he changed the lyrics after I got my copy] [I do a few more of his as well - always steal borrow from the best!]


Celtaddict - I didn't say the ladies (as in people of the female persuasion) ignored me - I said the "ladies" - as in those who organized Koko and Mick's nuptials - let me off lightly....

Wedding pictures were there - I just never had a chance to fire up the computater and show them to anyone. I think I slept more then I ever have at a getaway - counting the afternoon nap I took I think I got a total of 16 hours from friday through to monday. Can't believe I missed that much!


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Tinker
Date: 20 Oct 05 - 10:09 AM

A Few photos


There are a few photos here that I've been able to edit. I've got more but no more time. Micca and the champagne flutes are represented and I'll try to get a close up of a couple later. There are also a couple of picture of Mick in the boudoir with Koko... no comment on those.... see what you think.

tinker


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Charley Noble
Date: 20 Oct 05 - 10:12 AM

Mick, you done good with your Mudcat list but somehow missed Naemanson and Barry Finn, Cummagon, Bat Goddess, Ken Schatz and maybe a few dozen more!

My only regret is I missed the cloning workshop and therefore wasn't able to attend some of the other workshops that were happening simultaneously. I do like to sing Southern Appalachian as well as nautical songs, not to mention drinking songs and parodies of all above. And I actually slept 3 to 4 hours Sunday morning and probably missed some of the best unscheduled music. Unfortunately my right arm cramps up now if I try to jam along with others on my banjo for more than a couple of tunes; it's a byproduct of 10 years of abuse playing with a contradance band. Still, I do admire others who continued to flame on in amazing fashion.

I was really delighted to get to know a few fine singers a whole lot better. That includes Barry Finn and his wife Justine who van-pooled with me, Andrew McKay from Swansea who is both a fine nautical songwriter and singer, Skarpi as a singer and guitarist, George Papavgeris who exceeded in my opinion the glowing reports on Mudcat (I've ordered ALL his CD's) as a good person as well as a fine singer and songwriter, some of the Shellbacks and I'm not even sure if I ever figured out the entire membership represented, and Ken Schatz who I shared the Shanties Workshop with.

It was wonderful to have some more time with Brett and Wakana, but I bet they're looking forward to getting home to Guam after their months of travel.

For me the ideal workshop is a dozen or so people who get to sing several rounds of songs and really interact with one another. The larger workshops unfortunately restrict one to leading one song, but on the positive side you get to sing along with a much greater variety of singers. This is not a critique of how Getaway workshops functioned, but more of a personal preference if it were possible or if I had a choice.

And the party continues this Friday at the Press Room and Saturday at Sinsull's with Micca, Catsfiddle and maybe a Shellback or two.

Thanks again to the FSGW for hosting this wonderful weekend. You're all invited to Maine to sing and dine on lobster any time you wish!

Cheerily,
Charley Noble


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Jeri
Date: 20 Oct 05 - 10:19 AM

Also not on the list are Bat Goddess, curmudgeon and Sorcha (who had a really gorgeous cloak).


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: lamarca
Date: 20 Oct 05 - 10:22 AM

This was a fun Getaway for us, 'though George and I were only day-tripping on Saturday and missed out on the late night singing. However, reading this thread, one would get the impression that for the most part, the only folks worth mentioning are fellow Mudcatters. As a Curmudgeon-In-Training, I'd like to ask all of you swapping memories and admiring each other's performances to think back, and mention ONE non-Mudcat person that you got to know or whose musical talents impressed you. For instance, one of the stand-out moments of the Saturday night concert for me was TJ and Julie O'Malley's exquisite slack key guitar duet. Surely there were some FSGW folks (in addition to Janice Cole's Rubber Ducky) who made this Getaway fun and interesting for you...


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Jeri
Date: 20 Oct 05 - 10:24 AM

And Nancy King, Dan Schatz, and HAHAHA --> Max.


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Ferrara
Date: 20 Oct 05 - 10:40 AM

Mary, there have been mentions of Judy Cook and Ron Davies, (who sometimes post here but are 95% FSGW and 5% Mudcat, they post very, very seldom ... even less often than you do these days) and several posts about Mia Boynton, for starters. I think I have noticed others but my memory is so slippery that I can't name them. ... and Sue Mathieu, who co-led Grim, Bloodthirsty, etc.

The thing is that lots of people in FSGW who started as non-Mudcatters have learned about it via the Getaway and so are now registered on Mudcat. Dual citizenship? This year I do feel, in fact, that I'm hearing a lot more about the people who aren't on Mudcat or are very little known there.

I would like to hear (read) more stories about workshops that I missed. For instance Bobert was pretty happy after his concert and told me a bit about it, but I would like to hear other folks' descriptions of it.

And I would especially like to hear more about the Harmonies workshop, and what it was like to learn a Byzantine hymn. BTW Sue Mathieu also sings Byzantine hymns! She sings in a Russian Orthodox church and it's a fine thing to hear her do liturgical music.

Rita


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: MMario
Date: 20 Oct 05 - 10:44 AM

My problem is that though I know, enjoy and appreciate - I have trouble putting names with the *FACES* I know - missed several FSGW people I've seen previous years - enjoyed songs from several others I recognize but haven't yet pinned a name to the faces; and then of course many people I think of primarily as FSGW because I don't interact with them much on the mudcat or they joined AFTER I met them at Getaway. Or Darielle Day- whom I met through Mudcat but was a "FSGW Baby" and who I also connect with through Ren-faire- his girlfriend - whose name I never did catch. It's a bit easier with mudcats but even there - heck - I mistook Amos for Chance Shiver (Chance and Suzette - two more who I think of as FSGW - though you get that mudcat connection again)

There is a knitting sub-culture that runs under some of the music as well *grin*

Dave (?) with the harp and Judy (?) (I told you I was horrible with names) whom I enjoy singly and together whenever I get to hear them.


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Ferrara
Date: 20 Oct 05 - 10:58 AM

David Scheim on harp, Lucy Goldberg sings with him. (So do lots of us whenever we can get the chance. He can accompany almost anything.)

Darriel's girlfriend is Kat Clark. She was also setting up sound for the Saturday concert. First time she's ever done it, and Dennis said she did a fine job. Her mom, Sue Clark, is the lady who co-led the Sunday gospel with Lisa Null. And Sue and Kat Clark sang a duet in the Saturday concert.

Will be happy to fill in more info on the various FSGW people, that may be a good way to help us know each other better.

Susan Hills is the tall dark haired lady who plays clarinet in the jams, especially the Country & Western.

Mary Jo and Richard Molineaux were the couple in the matching sunburst clothing. They are the folks who inspired the waltz jam, because they love the Getaway but can't stand to go through an entire weekend without doing at least a little dancing.

Rita


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: George Papavgeris
Date: 20 Oct 05 - 11:00 AM

Home, knackered and dazed, but so, so happy! From the pre-Getaway visit to Washington and that lovely evening at Chance and Suzette's to the post-Getaway session at Mudcat Central (big thanks, Max!) and our visits to the Amish country (thanks again Max) and to the Blue Ridge Mountains of Virginia (thanks Bobert and yes, we did sing THAT song and do THAT dance with Vanessa at the top), the whole trip has had a magical quality, with the main ingredients being provided of course by the Getaway itself.

Some snapshots, in no order:

- That late night impromptu jam in front of the restaurant building.
- Janice's rendition of "Rubber Ducky".
- Bobert's mini-concert (why "mini"? Vanessa dna I would have preferred a "maxi")
- The faces of some of the Byzantine Babes when they realised that they were "getting it"...
- Barry Finn's singing
- InOBU's singing and playing of the pipes
- Noreen's song at the Saturday night concert
- Charlie Noble's singing at the sessions and in that cabin Saturday night
- The "Sixteen Stone" song...
- The Morse couple on stage
- Micca's adoration in song of that blasted puppy
- Amos in all his aspects and at all times
- Jim on his gutbucket
- Giok's singing and company
- Skarpi's Saturday night song
- Talking with Khatt and ColK
- Leadfingers playing jazz and ragtime whistle
- Teresa's energy and voice
- Maryrrf's singing
- Ebbie's infectious smile
- Charmion's singing and permanent smile
- CET's singing and THAT kilt (nice knees, Edmund!)
- KT's voice, charm and songs
- MMario's songs (never heard him before, was gobsmacked)
- Charlie Baum's singing, especially that Bulgarian song in duet
- Big Mick's and Jeri's faces after that Christmas song (it's why I write the buggers, after all!)
- But most of all Vanessa's face throughout that weekend

Shit, I know I have forgotten many, but I hope my addled brain will be forgiven its misfirings.

By the way, La Inglesa has now been renamed "Nessie" (her own preferred nickname) and will no doubt be adding her own impressions to this thread later.

Back to reality now... Or is it?


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: InOBU
Date: 20 Oct 05 - 11:04 AM

"Lorcan's Quaker Preacher clothing, including the cloak, was possibly the most dramatic, especially because of the incongruity of seeing him in it while playing the pipes. " Lovely of thee to say, Rita... a few historical observations... We Friends in America originate in England and Ireland. William Penn was Anglo Irish, as are the Uilleann Pipes ( sorry my Celtic Brothers and Sisters... ) the pipes were (and are) so expensive that in the old days it took an anglo Irish patron to afford them, and so our lot made up a lot of the early pipers (Merrily Kissed the Quaker... a few Irish Tunes named after the Irish Quaker crowd as well!!! ) Well, and all we Quakers are preachers :) ( we have no clergy )
Much love and thanks to all, see you all soon, I hope and do go to Flickr and check out, so far 52 photos of the weekend!
lor


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: MMario
Date: 20 Oct 05 - 11:10 AM

oh wow. no way. *I* left *YOU* gobsmacked? Someone's got to be fibbing.


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Jeri
Date: 20 Oct 05 - 11:11 AM

It's easy enough to remember the names of Mudcatters who attended the Getaway because they post here and are constantly in our faces. (NTTAWWT) If I can't remember someone's name, I can usually remember somewhere they posted and look it up. Perhaps if we had a way to identify those and look up the names of those who don't ever read or post on Mucat it would help keep them separate in our minds. (And Ron Davies posts A LOT.)

Ferrara, the
Buzzantine Hymn workshop (George 'El Geeko' Papavgeris) and the Harmonies workshop (Charlie Baum & Mia Boynton) were my favorites. I'm a harmony freak though. Good to see Colleen Cleveland again, although I missed her mini-concert because I was Byzy.


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: George Papavgeris
Date: 20 Oct 05 - 11:20 AM

No fibs, Leo. The Sunday concert number preceded as it was by the story-telling intro, had a magical quality.


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: beardedbruce
Date: 20 Oct 05 - 11:21 AM

" no where is written in stone that a bowl ahs to hold anyting, other than beauty..."


Damn, Bobert, I may have to steal this one from you....


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: mooman
Date: 20 Oct 05 - 11:24 AM

I'm sorry I couldn't come in the end. It really seems like I missed something good. I hope to make it across the pond next year and meet all the people I've been wanting to meet.

Peace

moo


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: wysiwyg
Date: 20 Oct 05 - 11:28 AM

Mmario-- don't you be calling my friend a liar, now! :~)

Gobsmacked/sniff.....

~S~


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Janie
Date: 20 Oct 05 - 11:37 AM

Rita,
You didn't get as much sleep as you thought you did Friday night. It was more like 1:00a.m. when we staggered past each other in the cafeteria.

I am sorry to have missed the harmony workshop...actually, there are a number of workshops and mini-concerts I am sorry to have missed. We really need to get serious about this cloning workshop:>)

Janie


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Ebbie
Date: 20 Oct 05 - 11:52 AM

Spot-Lit moments- so many, so many-

Walking through the camp across the grass from building to building and having music accompany me from one spot to another, now over here, then over there, then over there, then over there… I felt my ears turning and pointing like those of a donkey as I walked.

The Harmonies Workshop- being blown away by so many voices. Mia's, Jeri's, Ron's, the lady who likes Ginny Hawker's songs and sings them so beautifully, Charley Baum's voice and benign presence,..

"Here We Go, There We Go"- who did that song? Loved it and its orchestration.

Skarpi- so totally different from what I expected, even though I was overjoyed at the prospect of meeting him. So amazingly good and satisfying, he made the world manageably smaller. (Did anyone besides me cry in response to his Elvis Presley song?)

Bobert- Quite apart from his persona, he has a wonderfully expressive voice and impeccable rhythm in his music. I have always said that the blues depresses me- but I was exhilarated and energized by his blues workshop. As the songs circled the group, each one's blues style and approach was so different I was immersed in it. As the Beaubear himself says, singing the blues is celebratory, an affirmation of the spirit. Thanks for showing me that.

Chance (Fortunato) and Susette- I love them. They sing the songs I grew up with and take them to another level. And Susette- have you heard her sing Carter Family??

TJ O'Malley- like Chance an impeccable pro. He does blues too. And he has nice legs too. (Don't take it too personally, TJ- in Juneau when a man goes 'round in shorts his legs beam their whiteness to all and sundry, displaying plucked chicken more than comfort.)

Barry Finn- I finally got to hear him sing and a treat it was. I do understand, Barry, that your voice is not yet at 100% but your 80% is eminently rich.

Ron Davies- his mellow viola makes me absolutely melt into puddles. And his voice- the man knows his music.

There are so many, so many…


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Bill D
Date: 20 Oct 05 - 11:59 AM

I have barely slowed down this last few days, since we still have guests (Noreen & Stewart) and have not even finished unloading the van yet! I have downloaded pics, but have not edited and sorted them, so I will be posting many images that will jog memories ("oh, yeah! I remember her/him....who was that?" .I took a bunch of crowd shots at the concerts, too so I may have at least snaps of 'almost' everyone.

The line is beginning to blur between "Mudcatters" (which I guess means anyone who has posted once..*grin*), local folks who NEVER post,, (like Hunter, who has been at every gospel sing since time immemorial), non-local folks who never post, but who have been at Getaways longer than I have...(like Keith Baldwin, who started things off with "Hoboes & Trains" and added a song to MANY sings)....I will identify them as I post pics.

Since I have now attended 28 consecutive Getaways..(not nearly as many as Dick Greenhaus and SongBob and a few others), my mind blurs sometimes, and names escape me....but you all can help if I fail to put names to all the pics!

I am still sorting out my feelings of awe and camaraderie at some of what I saw and people I met....and since I was overwhelmed with setting up my wood display too, I was often not at all of the music I wanted to hear. (thank you ALL who made nice comments [and especially those who took something home..*happy smile*)

so....here are 4 pics of the audience Sat night....see how many you can pick out...many more to come

audience 1

audience 2

audience 3

audience 4


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Janie
Date: 20 Oct 05 - 12:46 PM

At the Sunday night concert, a British couple (I think) did a lovely piece. He played concertina and she had red hair and a lovely soprano voice. I imagined a ballerina dancing solo to it as they sang. Who were they? And who ever you were, thank you.

Janie


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Skipjack K8
Date: 20 Oct 05 - 12:51 PM

It was reely nice.


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Ebbie
Date: 20 Oct 05 - 12:53 PM

I have so many more bright moments to share but right now I want to mention Hunter and Peggy, FSGWers- I would have loved to talk longer with them. There wasn't time.

The Getaway does have several serious flaws. Cloning would take care of just about all of them.

(I recollect that KT was put in charge of the Cloning issue. I suspect she just didn't have enough time.)


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Jeri
Date: 20 Oct 05 - 12:56 PM

'Twas maybe Crane Driver and Sussex Carol?

This just dawned on my when I went over my schedule: was Merle Roesler there? The Songwriters Showcase went straight into Scottish Songs without Merle's mini-concert, and I remember a button lying on the check-in table when I was leaving.

Skarpi surprised me as well. I thought he'd be good, but he was better than that. Truly a pro with a really great voice. Barry Finn, in full voice on a good day can stip paint at 50 paces if he has to. He did just fine at the Getaway - nobody needed paint stripped.


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Ferrara
Date: 20 Oct 05 - 01:22 PM

Janie, you're right, I remember now. My memory is a bit weird at best, but I can remember things (sometimes) when somebody reminds me....

Jeri, Merle couldn't make it after all. (Sob). She and Carly both sang at my very first Getaway (1977, maybe?) and I was -- gobsmacked? -- by their beautiful singing.


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Celtaddict
Date: 20 Oct 05 - 01:49 PM

The folks who did the sound for the concerts also did a wonderful job. Those one-song-each shows can be nightmares of sound changes.
I don't know really who was FSGW and who was 'Cat though I know many are both. What an amazing deal we 'Catters have though that FSGW organizes this event and opens it to us! How do I volunteer to help from here?
Charley, I want to visit the volkshtetl some day! (Or night!)


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Amos
Date: 20 Oct 05 - 01:58 PM

Two out of a million dazzling moments: hearing Jeri's "WhenI Go", which she (amzing gal that she is) snatched off the radio and would not let escape until she owned it; and discovering from El Greko that the simplest sadnesses are sometimes the most overwhelming; I joined about thirty others in diving for the Kleenex by the time he finished his Christmas song for a departed mother. I swear this big, impressive hunk of a man has a heart of soft spun gold. Then there was the amazing performances from Wales which had me gobsmacked as well, and...the first five minutes was another miracle. I finally found this Hellangone back o'beyond after arriving at BWI hours late and feeling my way through the back-woods darkness on dwindling roads and marginal certainties. I was thrashed but excited to be there. I climbed down from my rental car and turned to see a figure looming up in the shadows. It was the man I had come so far to see more than any other single man, the Ole Skippuh himself.

I could not have started things on a better reception than that greeting in the shadows from ole Kendall his own self.

It went from new heights to newer heights thereafter.

I wish I could tell you-all how much it meant to me, but, in a rare and amazing Murphy Moment, I have to confess that words fail me. SNifff.


A


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From: Janie
Date: 20 Oct 05 - 02:05 PM

I think you have them right, Jeri! Cranedriver and Sussex Carole. Thank you, thank you, thank you. Hope some one got them recorded!

Bobert's done gone and given everybody the sniffles. Quit yer sniffin' folks, and go blow them noses!

Love,

Mom


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From: Allan C.
Date: 20 Oct 05 - 02:20 PM

It was I who led the song that had the background of "Here we come. There we go." That was for the workshop for "songs you learned from someone else."

The "foreign songs" workshop was fabulous! Skarpi did a couple of great songs - one in Icelandic and I think the other was Norwegian. If memory serves, Charlie Baum sang in a language I had never heard of. The variety of languages represented there was amazingly diverse.


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From: Charmion
Date: 20 Oct 05 - 02:52 PM

Um, excuse me, but I, too, mentioned the sterling qualities of an FSGW person -- Mia Boynton -- who doesn't even own a computer (let alone waste her time posting here), but obviously fills every spare minute with sturdy practising 'cause she's one fine musician.


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From: Celtaddict
Date: 20 Oct 05 - 02:54 PM

You are right about the Foreign language songs. I knew Skarpi would be there so would hear Icelandic, and expected French and Spanish, and even those songs were from Brazil and Vera Cruz (with the typical quaver); also Italian, an older Slavik language, two different Hebrew rounds, Irish Gaelic (from two different singers; I was going to try one myself but the circle was large and fortunately I passed; two people would have spotted the fluffs), I think a German and I do not recall what else but I know there were more.
Also, who sang the heartstopping werewolf song near the start of the SpookyGrim? What was it? Wow.
And the woman who was not yet familiar with "On Ilkla Moor" was fun to watch; what a treat to see someone hear something good for the first time! I learned it as a simple children's song and the impromptu chorale was amazing.
I never would have thought string bass could sound so good. (Gutbucketeer? I can't say I have either 'Cat or other names down)
Another great moment was when someone at the Foreign Language circle sang a song South American fishermen use to call up the wind, and out of nowhere a brisk breeze sent the trees waving and the barn door slamming.


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From: Ebbie
Date: 20 Oct 05 - 02:57 PM

I missed so many workshops! I can't stand it!!!!!


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From: Allan C.
Date: 20 Oct 05 - 03:03 PM

Celtaddict, that was me, too. The song was "Curimao." To my amazement that song has conjured winds on a number of occasions.


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From: Ebbie
Date: 20 Oct 05 - 03:08 PM

Whoa. And I'll bet that I don't have it on minidisc. Might you be persuaded to post the lyrics, Allan?


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From: CarolC
Date: 20 Oct 05 - 03:21 PM

This year, just about every time I thought I was talking to someone who was strictly FSGW and not at all Mudcat, I would then discover that I was talking to a Mudcatter without realizing it. I found out, for instance, that I have seen PaulineL at every Getaway I've attended, and just never connected the person with the screen name. There were quite a few people I saw, and some I spoke with, whose names I never learned and I have no way of knowing if they were just FSGW, just Mudcat, or if they were both. I see this as a good thing. I think it shows that the line of separation between FSGW people and Mudcatters is very insubstantial.

I am a bit dismayed to see quite a few names of Mudcatters (and/or Mudcat spouses) who were there, but whom I somehow missed getting a chance to meet.


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From: Allan C.
Date: 20 Oct 05 - 03:55 PM

Ebbie, here are the narrative and lyrics in English and horrible Portuguese. I can't write Portuguese well enough to do it justice. So here it is minus the proper accent marks and possibly misspelled:

Off the north coast of Brazil there's an extensive fishing trade. Each day men go out in log boats to catch a fish known as Curimao in nets they throw by hand. They aren't always successful in catching this huge fish; but are nearly as glad to bring in one a little smaller known as Lambai.


Curimao

Vamos chamar o vento
Vamos chamar o vento
Oo-oo-oo

Vento que da na vela
Vela que leva a o barco
Barco que leva o gente
Gente que leva o peixe
E peixe que da dineiro
Curimao

Chorus:
Curimao hey Curimao ou Lambai
Curimao hey Curimao ou Lambai
Hey Curimao hey Curimao ou Lambai
Hey Curimao hey Curimao ou Lambai
Curimao

Come let us call the wind
Come let us call the wind
Oo-oo-oo

Wind come and fill the mainsail
Mainsail make my boat go
Boat go and carry my brothers
Brothers fish the waters
And waters bring us good fortune!
Curimao

Chorus


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Amos
Date: 20 Oct 05 - 03:57 PM

Alan:

If there's ever an MP3 of you singing that, I'd love to get a copy - or any other medium I could listen to it on.

Thanks, brother.


A


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Charley Noble
Date: 20 Oct 05 - 04:02 PM

Janie-

So is "Cranedriver" really Andrew McKay, the singersongwriter and concertina player from Swansea? I wasn't aware of his Mudcat name. And Sussex Carole is his fiancee, or are they already married?

Anyway, they were one of my favorite couples that sang last weekend.

Bill D-

Who is the bearded fellow in the blue-checkered shirt, near the front on the right inside aisle? He plays guitar and was part of our late night gang in the cabin earl-lye Sunday morning. He's almost as old as me.

Cheerily,
Charley Noble


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From: kendall
Date: 20 Oct 05 - 04:24 PM

Crane driver and Sussex Carole are due to marry in April.


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From: Amos
Date: 20 Oct 05 - 04:33 PM

And a foine couple they are, too -- they both sing beuatifully, and they both have a fine hand at turning a song.

A


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From: Nessie
Date: 20 Oct 05 - 04:35 PM

Still intoxicated with the spirit of the Getaway... So much warmth, talent, humour, diversity and generosity all in one too-short weekend. This audience member feels very much part of the family!

Nessie (aka Mrs El Greko)

hic


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From: Janie
Date: 20 Oct 05 - 04:40 PM

Charlie--I assume they are one and the same er, two and the same? (or Kendall woulda set us straight.) I agree. Lovely, lovely music.

Janie


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Sorcha
Date: 20 Oct 05 - 05:04 PM

Sorry I wasn't really in top form....felt like crap most of the w/e, had a HORRID headache Sat eve so went to bed about 7 PM or so. Also I was distracted by 'worries' that I should have been able to leave at home but couldn't.

Personally, I thought the food was lousy, the entire camp needs major maintenance, the director is a jerk, and some of you left really horrible messes in the dining hall.

Sorry, but I come from the Take only memories, leave only footprints school, and IMO, we left a LOT more than that. Just as well that the Getaway is planning to find a new venue, because after the mess I saw in the Dining Hall after meals and on Monday, they might not want us back.


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From: Ebbie
Date: 20 Oct 05 - 05:14 PM

I agree that the food was, shall we say, uninspired? I suspect that if the director and crew had made an effort to get us on his side we would have been more helpful to him and them. Ya gets what ya sends out.


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From: Bill D
Date: 20 Oct 05 - 05:16 PM

Charley..I read that name badge 3 times on the checkered shirt fellow, but I forget! Will figure it out....


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From: Bobert
Date: 20 Oct 05 - 05:30 PM

As fir the food, I think Sgt. Billy Ballbuster was in charge of that, as well as being the rule guy... Bet he was the one who locked me outta the pool, too... Glad we're rumblin' on past Camp Tumbleweed next year...

Ahhhh, as fir my gardenin' buddy, Jeri, I'm sorry but I really wanted to spend some time with you... Seems I was always headed somewhere, plus had both a workshop and an mini-cocert to do and I kept seein' you thinkin' that Sunday night I'd finally be able to share some gardenin' stories, then I calll the P-Vine and she is sick as a dog, so I beat feet home to make her tea...

Sorry, Jeri... I really wanted to have some time wid ya... Sniff...

Sho nuff did...

Bobert


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From: Sorcha
Date: 20 Oct 05 - 05:30 PM

Sorry, Ebbie, that is no excuse in my book. We don't need to lower ourselves.


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From: CET
Date: 20 Oct 05 - 05:47 PM

I think the werewolf song (or shapechanger, the species of beast is left to the imagination) was from Sue Mathieu. I understand that she may be recording some of her repertoire of ballads. That will be a CD worth looking for.

The food was definitely less than 2nd rate, but I didn't get such a negative feeling about the director. There were rules. He was obliged to tell us about them, so I didn't take it amiss.

Edmund


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Charley Noble
Date: 20 Oct 05 - 05:54 PM

Well, in my opinion the salmon entre Saturday evening was actually quite good. The chicken was good. The roast beef looked awful but one didn't have to choose it. In general I think the kitchen crew did a reasonable job, even if they were a little surly. They were particularly pleased that Amos showed up for his early Monday morning breakfast but were rather pissed that no one else who requested an early breakfast materialized.

I didn't notice much of a mess but I wasn't in the dinning room for a late night inspection.

There was regrettably no recycling options available for plastics, bottles, or cans. It would be nice if this were an option for next year. I suppose I should have taken more of my empties back with me to Maine and cashed them in.

I'm pleased that so much of the area was smoke free, although I noted that some folks at the barn workshop lighted up around the big open door oblivious to the wind blowing the smoke in.

But I had a great time and only regret that it couldn't have continued on for a week or two longer!

Cheerily,
Charley Noble


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Bill D
Date: 20 Oct 05 - 06:00 PM

The director...the big cheese...has been 'pretty' reasonable for 5 years. The little Sgt. has his own interpretation of the rules, unless the Boss tells him specifically what to do.

This camp caters to a WIDE variety of eccentrics...from nudists to SCA folk...etc., and they adjust by being a bit inflexible on some subjects *grin*....The food has been better, and could have been ok this year with just a little better preparation. The morning bacon was not up to previous years..perhaps they had different suppliers or cooks..*shrug* (Several years ago, Rick Fielding complemented it as being WAY above some camps he has met!)

Some things were fine...some were borderline....but we sorta survived!


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From: Ebbie
Date: 20 Oct 05 - 06:01 PM

Charley, I thought the stuffing on the salmon was great- delicate flavor but crunchy. The salmon itself was so blatantly farmed fish that I wished there was someone to whom I could strongly suggest making the effort to get wild salmon. The difference between the two is quite remarkable.

The chicken was gone by the time I got there- but I was told that we were informed that the choice given us was EITHER/OR chicken or beef. I sincerely hope that the greenish tint to the roast beef was because of herbs! *G*


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From: Bill D
Date: 20 Oct 05 - 06:15 PM

The 'good' salmon would have raised the cost of the weekend 20%, I'd bet...*grin*...and would YOU have trusted that staff with top-notch salmon? (Alaska Mike has brought good smoled salmon for Friday night a couple of times! YUM!)

Many years ago, even before my time, the Getaway used to survived on hot dogs and beans and cheap salads, I have heard. The only really great times were the years we hired Debby McClatchy to do the food...and even then there were menus that pleased some and irritated others.....me, I don't like meals based on large amounts of onion and eggs...but, I'm from Kansas.........


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From: Ferrara
Date: 20 Oct 05 - 06:22 PM

As to the "chicken OR beef," we ask to have all registrations in by about October 5, and we had 145 people by that day. That is the day we need to tell the camp how much food to order.

In the final 2 weeks, we went up to 170 people. The camp let us keep adding people, but they couldn't work miracles with loaves and fishes and I guess it was a bit tight by Sunday. But we really preferred to let everybody come who wanted to, rather than have a bit fancier or more plentiful food.


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From: lamarca
Date: 20 Oct 05 - 06:28 PM

Ebbie, the farmed salmon was topped with surimi - fake crab - which goes right along with the "Cheap Food to Feed the Masses" approach of the camp. I thought the naked hamburgers and hotdogs with stale buns for Saturday lunch were pretty awful. This is where I REALLY miss the Good Old Days of the Getaway, pre-camp Ramblewood, when Debby McClatchy, banjo picker and cook extraordinaire, was hired to cater the Getaway. She had imaginative, tasty, affordable meals for a crowd, crafted over her long years of cooking for dance camps, the Bay Area Getaway, etc.

Everyone who attended the Getaway had to sign up for 2-3 hrs kitchen duty sometime over the whole weekend, which led to Carrot-Chopping Shanties, Chicken Puppet dances (don't ask, it's disgusting) and other communal activities that helped make the work more fun. I'm hoping that perhaps the new camp will allow us to do our own food again, and that Debby would be willing to come back from the Left Coast to organize it!


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Ebbie
Date: 20 Oct 05 - 06:43 PM

Every now and again I hark back to the days when I used to camp out. I did my own cooking and -trust me- the food was not that great. I really don't care much about the variety. The judicious applicaton of some seasonings on individual items would not come amiss, however, and without great additional expense. But I expect you are right- taste buds differ.

Bill D, I don't know if you got any of the three pounds of smoked wild salmon KT and I brought? Last year we added two pounds to AlaskaMike's store (And ssssshhhhh- a Juneau friend of ours makes the stuff we brought, unlike the store-bought salmon Mike brought. humph. *G* Incidentally, don't anybody yump down my t'roat- Mike himself told me that he bought his at a store.)


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From: Bobert
Date: 20 Oct 05 - 06:47 PM

Well, not to be complainin' but there are folks, myself included, who don't eat red meat... Other than the chicken/fish night, the rest of the meals were slim pickin's... Thank God fir the salad bar, though...


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From: Sorcha
Date: 20 Oct 05 - 07:20 PM

Welll...on the chicken or night, I chose chicken...it was bloody in the middle. Took it back, fussed, got another piece. It was bloody too so I was a veggie for the night...I can't eat fish. Overcooked, dried out burgers and cold stiff buns don't cut it.

I AM a cook and a caterer too....have fed multitudes many times. The food was, IMO, inexcuseable.

So is a toilet that won't flush at 2 AM (yea, so we told them the next day...that doesn't help at 2 AM), sinks that don't drain, showers that run either HOT or cold but not both...

Still no excuse for the mess I saw on Monday AM.


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From: Amos
Date: 20 Oct 05 - 07:22 PM

Well, Sorcha as for top form, I was out of that shape after Friday night, which as I recall ended about sunrise; and it kinda got shaggier and funnier from then on forard. But I must say that taking the waves as they came, and making th emost of it, was by a long shot the best attitude I could find and it seemed to work purdy well!

A


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From: Ebbie
Date: 20 Oct 05 - 07:40 PM

I agree with you, Amos. By the way, it was such fun to see you have such fun! I wasn't at all surprised that you are an excellent guitarist and a great singer but it hadn't occurred to me that you would leap in with both feet as though Camp Ramblewood was just what you were expecting. It was great.


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From: George Papavgeris
Date: 20 Oct 05 - 07:47 PM

Enough about food already (said the fat omnivore); I see that as a "maintenance" factor at events like the getaway, and not for prime consideration - though if it really is terrible I accept that it can detract from the overall enjoyment.

Me, I'd have enjoyed the event just as much with a couple of slices of bread and a hunk of cheese for each and every meal. But that's just me (a cheeseaholic omnivore). Non-working toilets are more of a problem, but then things do break down now and then, and the timing often follows Murphy's Law. So I shrug shoulders, shout "kismet" and move on to the next toilet, or even better, the next session.

I know I am being a little flippant here, and don't take me to task on it, but don't you find that sometimes a little hardship aids the camaraderie? By all means let's try for better next year, but also let's not allow such things to detract from what was still a magical weekend.

Even if some of the magic was slightly odorous or under/overcooked :-)


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Janie
Date: 20 Oct 05 - 07:48 PM

So the food was worse than it had been in the past. The price is right for the Getaway. I, for one, don't want the job of locating camps who will take all of us wild banshee types. And I don't attend the Getaway because of the prospect of good eats. (Or a decent mattress, for that matter. Not only were they woarn out, when everyone in the cabin rolled over, it sounded like popping corn and woke me up from my sweet snoring!) Shared travails bring us closer, eh?

Jeri--how come I didn't know you are a gardener? You been holdin' out on me, girl! I demand pm's about the joys of diggin' in the dirt and gardening in the North vs. the South. Sheez!

And Bobert--stop that sniffin'--go to doctor, boy. You done infected half of mudcat!

xxoo,

Janie


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: InOBU
Date: 20 Oct 05 - 07:51 PM

Hiya Kiddies... I started putting some comments on the Mudcat Gathering Photos on the Mudcat Flickr site... so I invite others to post comments when you see a photo with no name on it, click on the photo, add a comment, then folks will know who is who and you can leave as many words thereafter as possible... like photo of Greg... Skipjack, you can post a comment under the photo saying, Greg - Skipjack, loved the singing, good backup band, that sort of thing...
Cheers Lor


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Charley Noble
Date: 20 Oct 05 - 07:55 PM

Sigh! If I wanted a quiet weekend and a gourmet meal I certainly would not have decided to go to the Getaway. Good lord! Certainly the salmon we had in the Pacific Northwest was fantastic. And we even have folks in Maine that prepare food better than the kitchen crew at Camp Ramblewood.

However, I was there primarily to make music and meet some other folks who shared that archane wish.

Sorcha- I'm sorry that it was such an unpleasant experience for you.

Charley Noble, with the iron stomach

PS

If it wriggles or is bloody I don't eat it!


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: LilyFestre
Date: 20 Oct 05 - 07:58 PM

200!!!!!!!!!!


More later!!!   :)

Michelle


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Skipjack K8
Date: 20 Oct 05 - 07:58 PM

Damn it, I love it when I'm in a parallel universe. The showers worked, the bog flushed, I got as much sleep as I awarded myself, I put on weight, and I have absolutley no complaints about the camp, or the massive efforts of our unpaid organisers, just thanks for gettin' off your collective ass and making it happen for us.


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Charley Noble
Date: 20 Oct 05 - 08:09 PM

Skipjack-

Not only are you and your clone in parallel universes but you both managed to post to this thread!

Cheerily,
Charley Noble, who actually enjoys a good food fight


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: InOBU
Date: 20 Oct 05 - 08:17 PM

Same here, Skipjack -
The showers were great, the toilet was clean and worked, the beds just right, cable in the rooms... oh... ummmm... Genie and I were in paralle universe, we stayed in a motel... whoops...

lor

PS Hey GUYS Get on Flickr and post discriptions of the photos in the comments!!!!!!!!!!!


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Maryrrf
Date: 20 Oct 05 - 08:25 PM

Oh add me to the list of Mudcatters - I know I haven't posted much but I will stop lurking and participate more now that I have met more Mudcatters in person. I have to say that for me, the weekend was pure magic. I actually thought the food was great - it's a camp, not a five star restaurant, and they did a nice job. My friend Maria (the only black person at the event - she kept getting mistaken for Azizi!) and I haven't stopped talking about it since we got back. It was like a spiritual vitamin shot - really lifted my spirits and proved the old spiritual truism about the importance of being around like minded people and how it raises your vibrations. I find myself singing more around the house, and with more gusto and enjoyment, than I have felt in a long time, and I'm charged up and busy thinking of new songs to learn (and there's plenty of inspirational material, with the great CD's I bought from Camsco). I felt a sense of community, a sense of "family" as Charmion put it, like I haven't felt for a long time, and it just reinforces what I've always believed about the power and importance of music. I loved meeting people I kind of felt like I knew from Mudcat. I wish the Getaway could be an entire week and not just one weekend - I hated for it to end. Let's see, highlights were:

Being with people who love folk music and know that it's more than Peter Paul and Mary, the Kingston Trio, and Bluegrass. Nice to spend time in "the folk stetle" as Charlie Baum put it. And while I'm on that subject, what a nice host and announcer Charlie is! He really pulled everything together and made everyone welcome - the perfect MC.

Meeting folks and hearing their music - Ron Davies, Charmion, Barry Finn (he sure knows a lot of good songs!), Giok, Leadfingers (what a charmer), Skarpi, El Greko, the unforgettable Bobert, Lorcan, Mmario....and so many others.

Just drinking in all the songs! I'm a "song" person as opposed to "tunes" and the Getaway is hog heaven for songaholics!

Oh I can't wait till the next one!


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Sorcha
Date: 20 Oct 05 - 08:41 PM

Fine. I knew I'd be out voted and out voiced. I'll shut up now.


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Ebbie
Date: 20 Oct 05 - 08:45 PM

Maryrrf, which Mary are you? There were multiple Marys there and I'm not sure I met you. I did meet Maria- what a gorgeous woman! - but I don't remember that I met a companion of hers.


You may have noticed me: I'm the fat woman in the corner with one arm hoisted above my head trying to get all the music on disc that I possibly could.

I too felt that the weekend was pure magic- all I actually want as improvement is MORE of it!


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Janie
Date: 20 Oct 05 - 08:59 PM

Naw Sorcha--just come back next year when you are feeling better and less worried--and when it will be at a new location! Musta been a drag to come all that way and not to have felt good or to have enjoyed yourself.

Been keeping you and yours in my thoughts.

Janie


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: CET
Date: 20 Oct 05 - 09:00 PM

Lor - what's Mudcat Flickr?


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: GutBucketeer
Date: 20 Oct 05 - 09:00 PM

The mattresses get a little more lumpy, and the cabins a little more worn each year, but then so do the people. However, the (((HUGS))) get a lot more softig and just plain better each year. AND I'm a (((HUG))) addict. I've been know to drive for hours for a warm smile, a glint in an eye, a snatch of song, and (((HUGS))). I guess that's why I return year after year and why each year is better than the last.

(((HUGS)))

JAB


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Janie
Date: 20 Oct 05 - 09:03 PM

Mary--did you have really short hair, a big guitar, a great voice and repetoire? I think so--and I loved listening to you. Like you, I'm a song as opposed to a tune person, and the Getaway is just taylor-made for song!

(And what most people really notice about Ebbie is her sparkling eyes!)

Janie


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Jeri
Date: 20 Oct 05 - 09:04 PM

Sorcha, it's not a matter of being "voted and voiced out." It was your experience and everyone's is equally valid. The plumbing in my cabin worked and I didn't eat the chicken - very easy to see how my experience would be different. I'm sorry you felt bad. I missed playing some fiddle tunes.

Mary, I loved your singing, and Maria wins the prize for most attractive bedspread/blanket - love that green!


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Maryrrf
Date: 20 Oct 05 - 09:13 PM

Ebbie, yes there were a lot of Marys there. In our cabin we had at least four Marys (and of course nobody wanted to be Mary Hamilton! ) You were one of the people I wanted to meet - I saw you a couple of times but didn't get a chance to introduce myself. I have short reddish hair and am ummm....kind of middle aged, average height and weight which isn't much of a description. I sang Mattie Groves at the Saturday night concert.   As Leadfingers always says, everybody ought to post a profile and I will do so very soon..

Well Sorcha I don't know about out voted - "one man's meat is another man's poison" as they say. I'm a vegetarian so I didn't eat any of the undercooked chicken or the greenish tinted roast beef! For camp food, I thought it was fine but maybe I was just under the magic spell of the Getaway.


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From: jacqui.c
Date: 20 Oct 05 - 09:20 PM

The food was not good for the main part and the accomodations could have been better.

However, the magic of the Getaway made those things of minimal consequence. I was so busy enjoying the people and the music that the rest of it became immaterial. I just survived on Bruce's ginger and copious amounts of booze and didn't bother with sleeping too much.

I think, with an event like this, you get out of it what you put in and most of the attendees seemed to be having one hell of a good time.

For myself I would be quite happy to volunteer to help in the kitchens if we went self-catering. Communal cooking can be great fun.


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From: Bobert
Date: 20 Oct 05 - 09:23 PM

Yeah, Maryrrf, like Jeri said, I loved yer concert song....

Also enjoyed talkin' with you and Maria at supper on Friday night... Okay, it might have been Saturday... Heck, it might have been lunch????

But, yeah, Richmond is my favorite city anywhere an' if you'd like me to come down an' play sometime, I'll sho nuff do it... Just need a place to crash... That's all I ask...

What you all are doing is really needed in Richmond...

Dopn't firget to see if the Crossroads Coffee House, where I was playin' in ther 70's, is back.... It's in the basement of a church on the south side of Franklin St in the 1400 block...

Lotta good memories there... I rememeber always being real nervous and sittin' on the bathroom floor with my guitar..,.. Never threw up but I was always terrified... There wasn't any noise... Everyone was so danged respectfull they would go outside if they even had to burp.... You could hear a pin drop in there, an' it was dark with spot lights in her face an', an', an' I met a lot of great folks there and learned how to perform there...

"All my memories are there..."

Yeah, yopu check it out... I heard it was back....

Also, check out the Churchill Tunnel stoery that I was tellin' you 'bout... Mark Holmberg is the man at the Times-Dispatch to get you into that story....

BTW, I wrote and frecorded a song about the story... The song??? It sucks but the story I told in it is one fine story... PM me if you'd like to suffer thru the same 12 minutes I had to suffer thru when I recorded it... Great story, bad song...

Nice meetin' both of you...

Bobert


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Janie
Date: 20 Oct 05 - 09:24 PM

Hey--maybe Charlie grabbed the greek potato salad I went off and left in the cooler---we can have it again next year. Yum !:+)

Janie


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From: SINSULL
Date: 20 Oct 05 - 09:25 PM

The food was grim and the bathrooms less than clean. Sorcha, I agree.

The music and company and generosity and laughter outweighed any minor inconvenience. Meeting the Ducks and Ducklings and Dani's daughters was magic. The twins were singing harmony to Northern Tide while Dad and Mom performed on stage. With eyes glowing with pride Rowan turned to me and whispered "That's my Dad!"

Theresa is so full of life. Her enthusiasm is contagious. Her spirit - WOW! Is there a song she doesn't know? Then to see her upstaged by the demure Wakana - priceless.

Linda Goodman's emergence from her cocoon to share her wings with the rest of us - another WOW! InoBu in plain clothes vamping amid the well endowed ladies.

Charlie Baum's Rudolph followed by Rudolph/Amazing Grace.

Workshops - RiB's funny songs, Dave Diamond/Micca/Jacqui's parodies, pub songs, Helen's memorial with laughing crying friends and acquaintances sharing her music and life. Dick emoting Blood on the Saddle. Ron slogging thru Slowing Down To Lethargy, Dick Rogers waltzing the graceful KT around the lunch room, Dueling Banjos on banjo/kazoo, Irish Rebel songs in the Friday PM session, Mick and KoKo, Giok and Ewetopia,

Sorcha, I know you must have moments to share. Screw the food. What happy memories do you have? You were jamming outside the cafeteria - and?


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: KT
Date: 20 Oct 05 - 09:37 PM

It's true the food was not the best, but it served as a great souvenir. I'm still chewing the roast beef! No matter, I could've eaten cardboard and would still be very happy with the weekend!

Kudos again to all who made it happen!!

KT


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From: jacqui.c
Date: 20 Oct 05 - 09:52 PM

The funniest food moment was Sunday night when Kendall and catsPHiddle were trying to eat the chicken - possibly reheated from the previous night's meal.

Khatt mentioned that it was a bit tough and Kendall made some comment about it being roadkill. I thought Khatt was going to fall off her chair....


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Ebbie
Date: 20 Oct 05 - 10:24 PM

hahahhaha giggle giggle giggle Oh, I love the Mudcat! And I love the Getaway! And the people! (Not necessarily the food!)


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From: George Papavgeris
Date: 20 Oct 05 - 10:29 PM

Janie, was that YOUR greek potato salad? This old Greek geek would like to give it top marks - I had thirds on Friday! At last, a woman who understands that one can never have too much oregano... Well done!


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From: Maryrrf
Date: 20 Oct 05 - 10:29 PM

Well, thanks for the compliments, everybody. That means a lot because I know its coming from people who understand folk music. Bobert I will be PMing you. If you have a recording of the Churchill tunnel song I would love to hear it and I know that Maria would also. She was deeply moved that somebody would remember such an incident, since most of the people involved were poor black workers that nobody bothered much about back in those days.

Hearing the discussions about the workshops makes me really wish I could have attended them all - an impossibility, I know, and I so enjoyed the ones I did get to. The Performers workshop hosted by Judy Cook, Kendall and Chance and Suzette was very useful and really was more of what I would call a real workshop rather than a singaround. Don't get me wrong, I loved the singarounds but I wish each worshop could have been expanded in length so that the moderator could have talked more about the genre that was being explored, and so there would be time for questions. The wealth of knowledge at the Getaway is staggering, isn't it?


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: CarolC
Date: 20 Oct 05 - 10:39 PM

We chickened out and did our sleeping in a hotel, and we brought our own food, so I can't really comment on any of those things. But I'm glad I had an opportunity to meet you, Sorcha. I hope you feel better soon.


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Dani
Date: 20 Oct 05 - 10:56 PM

Yeah, screw the food. BUT it would have been nice had the place been cleaned before we got there. Also, room service sucked: never answered the damn phone.

The space outSIDE the cabins is magically beautiful to me, and I will miss it. Memories from the last few years I'll remember: walks by the pond, the smell of the pine needles in the sun (we took a nap under a tree, thanks for not stepping on us), the almost-full moon through the pineboughs and tears, the random benches situated for valley-viewing. The place has potential it's not living up to, but in any case, it's water under the bridge, right?

And, I also am a cook and a caterer. And my daughters (sniff) thought those breakfasts were fabulous. Sniff.

Let's consider asking everyone to work a shift next year. Even if the kitchen at the new place doesn't much want us, I think there's a proprietary interest created by involving folks in the housekeeping. Just a thought.

Dani


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Nancy King
Date: 20 Oct 05 - 11:03 PM

Well, we can (and do!) certainly hope for better food next year, but there's no chance we'll be doing it ourselves. The new camp (West River Camp, near Annapolis, MD) won't go for that. But it is a much nicer place: flat grounds right on the Bay, fairly modern, reasonably well-maintained buildings with LOTS of bathrooms, etc.) I'll be surprised if the food isn't better than Ramblewood's, but there's no way to tell until we've tried it. As some have mentioned, many years ago at Prince William Forest Park we hired Debbie McClatchy to honcho the food, and it was always fine. When we moved to Camp Letts, we had to settle for the camp's food (very blah..) the first year, then convinced them that we could do it ourselves without wrecking their kitchen. After Debbie stopped coming (and didn't I hear a rumor she's slowly getting out of the folk-camp-catering business?), we had to find other volunteers to be in charge of the kitchen, and that got harder as time went on -- it's an absolutely exhausting job, both before and during the event, and the head cook never got to participate in the rest of the Getaway. It also meant everyone had to contribute at least two hours of work time. That actually was a lot of fun, what with the chopping shanties and all, and it was an excellent way of getting to know some folks you might not otherwise spend time with, but it did mean having to decide what two hours of workshops to miss. Anyhow, when we first approached Ramblewood about this, they replied with an adamant NO. So that's the way it is. When we visited West River last year, we did ask about this, and were told it wouldn't be possible. I expect there are insurance issues involved, for one thing. So we'll see how it goes.

More details about next year's camp will emerge in time.

Sorcha, I'm sorry you were feeling bad and didn't enjoy the Getaway -- you were one of the people I was looking forward to meeting, but it never happened. I hope you won't give up on us!

The pictures posted so far have been great! Thanks to all concerned! I particularly like Annie's shot of my son Dan Schatz (surprise, surprise!), and Larry's photos of Jeri and of Keith Baldwin. I'll try to post some captions/comments on Larry's pictures before long. And I'm looking forward to yet more pictures!

Getaway highlights for me included:

The weather! Best we've had for a long time! Too bad we can't program that in advance…

The "Raise the Roof Gospel" session – that's my kind of gospel singing!

Seeing Barry Finn up and around. He's too skinny, but otherwise in fine form and still one of the nicest guys you'll ever meet. And this year we got a bonus – Justine!

Great singing in the Dining Hall Saturday night! I didn't last beyond 2 am, but what I heard was dandy.

The Saturday concert was excellent!   I particularly enjoyed Roger's "it's a duck (not an armadillo)" song; Lorcan Otway's song and lore about the Underground Railway; Kathy, Mary & George ("Oak Ash & Thorn") sounding really great; the Byzantine (now, is that "bye-zan-tyne" or "bizz-an-teen" or "buzz'n-ten" or what?) Babes; and of course the "Ladies of the Club" finale.   What I was able to hear of the Sunday concert (had to leave before the end to get Ken to the train) was also fine, particularly George's beautiful song.

I was delighted to hear Mary (Maryrrf) Smith's singing – great voice, great songs!

Another treat was seeing the various Mmario shawls in evidence – particularly the gorgeous one he made for Jacqui. Simply beautiful.

One thing that made the Getaway special for me was having both of my sons (not to mention my daughter-in-law!) there. This has happened several times in recent years, but not every time, and since we all live in different cities it's a special treat for me to have us all together. The only downside to it is that I tend to spend a lot of time with them instead of getting to know other people. Well, I suppose there are worse things…

And a special bonus for me this year was working with Rita and Carly on the program committee. We're old friends, of course, and we've worked together in the past, but somehow this year it really went especially well, and made all that advance work a pleasure. And of course the great advantage of being on the program committee is that all the work is done in advance – there's nothing to do once you get to the event, so you can relax and enjoy it, which I did!   

Special thanks to Charlie Baum, who did a great deal of work in advance and still had to deal with on-the-spot problems like lost items and nonworking toilets. Thanks, Charlie, you're a prince!

Next year's Getaway can't come too soon for me!

Nancy


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: GUEST
Date: 20 Oct 05 - 11:30 PM

Pictures Some New Ones Added

Some of my favorite things were learning a Hank Williams song from Ebbie and playing fiddle/guitar duet. Being with my crazy sister, and with Dani, Holly, and Elena. Meeting Pauline, Skarpi, Jeri again, talking to Eric in the parking lot. Power neck rub from (you know who you are). The weather! There is a God!! Selling my guitar five minutes before I left. Walk in the woods with my downtoearth spiritual advisor (you know who you are). Gospel to raise the roof. Workshop til ya drop. Kendall's timing. Singing when I had something to sing. Humming when I didn't.

Annie


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Ron Davies
Date: 20 Oct 05 - 11:37 PM

Oh no, Janie 19 Oct 2005 8:29 AM, I definitely don't claim to be in the same league as Judy Cook in knowing songs. (I sure am glad she had a chance to learn the "Buckskin Bag of Gold", though--I ran across that on a Henry Clay Work LP I had--- and it had Judy written all over it so I took the record to her. Among other things, Work almost always seems to have great choruses, so there's something for the rest of us to sing.)

I'm also not in the same league as Amos--he'd certainly be a top candidate for human jukebox--and it doesn't even cost anything---the songs just tumble out. And a fantastic guitarist of top of it. And of course a great guy.

Or Noreen.

Or Keith Baldwin.

Or...or...or...

But that's why it's so fantastic-- we weren't competing with each other at all--in fact we were proving over and over that the Getaway sum is worth far more than any of its (uncountable) talented parts.

What I like more than any other aspect of it is its cooperative nature. And that was there in spades. It is such an indescribable joy to go from one type of music to another and witness and/or be part of enriching the musical life of the group. I love throwing in a viola low harmony or vocal low harmony and hearing people do their harmonies with their instruments or their voices. The Friday, Saturday and Sunday impromptu sings were each totally unique--- such an incredible range of music-- (of course sometimes there was more than one going on in various areas)--and totally stunning-------and far more fun than the law allows in public. But there is something about voices intertwining which just beggars description.

And that's not even mentioning the great official concerts--the grand finale Saturday night was probably the most entertaining ever to the Saturday concert--I wished it had gone on for a lot more songs by that troupe. We've never had anything like that before. And other wonderful moments--I certainly second LaMarca's enthusiasm for that incredible Hawaiian slack-key original by T. J. O'Malley.

And the Sunday concert--I think that song by El Greco really hit us all where we live.

And other great moments in both concerts that I can't recall.

And I wished that K T's miniconcert had gone on for hours. Just her and her guitar. She may have asked for some help--but K T--you really need absolutely nothing else.


And it was such a delight to meet more of the people behind the Mudcat handles, as well as to experience so many hidden talents--at least not experienced by the Getaway before---obviously, as others have noted, the Duelling Banjos solo duet--kazoo and midget banjo (what's that called?) by Geoff the Duck has to be particularly singled out.

But there were so many others--just can't possibly mention all the highlights.


OK so the food wasn't the best. I have to admit I was pretty impressed with the first breakfast--it was even worth getting up for after singing til 5--it had both pancakes and fresh pineapple. Well, I'm just inordinately impressed with fresh pineapple.

And after that the food went downhill. But at weekends like that my main goal is enough fuel to keep singing as long as the singing lasts. And that was there.

I'm real sorry that Jan wasn't there--we even had some songs to do.

But despite that, I have to say that was the best Getaway I can recall.

And I'd also say that it was the Mudcat people who made the difference. The Getaway is always one of the high points of the year--even before Mudcat was a gleam in Max's eye that was so. But Mudcatters have added just staggering richness to an already wonderful experience.


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Ron Davies
Date: 20 Oct 05 - 11:54 PM

One more MUST be mentioned-- "Rolling In My Sweet Baby's Arms" in Icelandic--Skarpi, you've also contributed one that is guaranteed to enter the lore of the Getaway, right alongside our old favorites like Built for Comfort by Blind Lemon Pledge (Dave Olive) and the Hand Jive on dead goat (bagpipe). Or was it a country and western song on bagpipe? Nancy, Rita, anybody remember?


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Nancy King
Date: 21 Oct 05 - 12:26 AM

Yes, Ron, I remember. Just one of the umpteen high spots in umpteen years of Getaways...   I think you must be referring specifically to the truly unique rendition of "Please Don't Play A-11," done by the late Dave Olive, our own Nan Goland (absent this year because she and Paul went on some trip or other -- get your priorities straight, Golands...), and Mark Gilston on the Dead Goat, er, Bulgarian (?) bagpipes. For some reason, or no reason, most of the audience accompanied this stellar number with remarkably well-coordinated hand-jive. Somehow, the description just doesn't measure up. I guess you hadda be there.


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Ferrara
Date: 21 Oct 05 - 12:38 AM

Ron, David Olive is also responsible for the country song accompanied by Bulgarian bagpipes. It was (what else?) "Please Don't Play A-11."

For you folks who never knew them, the Getaway Scholarship Fund was established in memory of Dave and his wife Linda Lieberman. If Helen Schneyer was Queen of the Getaway in my mind, David was -- not King, more likely the Jack or Knave or even the Joker of the Getaway! Bill and I Loved his doo-wop version of Barbry Allen! And his blues songs in the concerts. I do remember Dave as Blind Lemon Pledge, but my favorite was the evening concert when Eric Cole led Dave, in his dark glasses, to the front of the room to sing a blues song, where he introduced himself as Blind Harry Palms.

I think Roger in Baltimore sings one of Dave's songs, "Nine Beers with the Wrong Woman."

Sorcha, I just sent you a PM about the food when I read something you wrote earlier. Sounds as if the food was worse than I realized. I detest bloody chicken, that really got my attention.

Actually I missed a lot of the meals, slept right through them. I always bring something to eat even if it's only crackers and peanut butter, because I have to take long naps that may interfere with meal times. Also I bring my own food because even some years at the old Getaway camps, I flat didn't like the food. It does interfere with one's enjoyment. So do clogged toilets. We have had an entire camp area's toilets out of commission at least once, it seems to be a perennial problem with camps that take large groups. That doesn't make it any less frustrating though.

Ron, I enjoyed your post. I was talking today to an FSGW member (I think) from out of state, anyway a friend who has been to a number of Getaways. He said he loves having all the new people, keep 'em coming, the Getaway is better than ever. Love to hear that.

Rita


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Roger the Skiffler
Date: 21 Oct 05 - 06:26 AM

Luckily you can't see this old Skiffler who's turning green with envy and dabbing his eyes, just reading this (NOT a pretty sight!).
Thanks to all for providing such powerful word pictures for non-attenders to share.

RtS


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: kendall
Date: 21 Oct 05 - 08:15 AM

In spite of the fact that I can no longer sing, this was the best getaway of all I have attended. There were too many high spots for me to mention, and I don't want to leave anyone out, so suffice to say, I enjoyed every one of you!

As far as the food goes, well, I've had worse. Anyone who has been in the military has. Just because there was a faint spot of blue paint from a Ford escort on the chicken doesn't mean it was road kill. Give the cook the benefit of the doubt. (Actually, I hear the cook got the beef and the chicken from a different supplier this year, the Maryland highway department)

Last evening, Jacqui and I went to Bugaboo Creek steakhouse here in South Portland. The noise level was just short of painful, and my split roated half chicken was no where near hot when it arrived, and by the time I was finished, it was cold as a dead man's tongue. Then, in the middle of the night, I had the most painful belly ache ever!. All that after they raised their prices by 20%! Compared to the chicken at the getaway, that chicken was a bargain.


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Janie
Date: 21 Oct 05 - 08:20 AM

Annie--I can't the new pics you put up to load? Is it me or is it you?

Wait--I thought YOU were the crazy sister! I'm going home to WV this weekend-I'll get Mom to confirm that *grin*

Oh--another sound bite--listening to a boink, boink, boink in the dark and finally figuring out it was Annie flossing. She puts just the right amount of tension on that string.

Janie


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Ferrara
Date: 21 Oct 05 - 08:24 AM

LOL


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Janie
Date: 21 Oct 05 - 08:38 AM

Glad you liked it, George. It's one my favorites too.

Janie


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: GUEST,Nancy King at work
Date: 21 Oct 05 - 11:22 AM

Rita, just for the record, "Seven Beers with the Wrong Woman" is one of Bob Clayton's fine songs. Dave Olive used to do a great job with the marvelous parody (of Conway Twitty's "Fifteen Years Ago") titled "Fifteen Beers Ago." Hilarious!

Annie, your pictures are great! I'm especially thrilled with the two beautiful shots of my sons! Now I just hafta figure out how to get them printed out. I think I can do it on one of the printers here at work. Thanks!

Nancy


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Leadfingers
Date: 21 Oct 05 - 02:03 PM

At this stage I can only say one thing which the people who were around on Monday morning WILL appreciate !! 'Orribly 'Orribly Average !!!!!!!


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: GutBucketeer
Date: 21 Oct 05 - 02:27 PM

Great Pictures Annie, especially of the Jug Band Workshop. BTW, Can we do a single string duet next year - Gutbucket and Flossie?

Janie, all of the pictures show up eventually it just takes time. Last night when I was using dialup at home, the only way I could see some of them was to click on them individually.

Leadfingers, Good to see you back on line, does this mean your back in the Merry Ol'? I thought of you on the way home. I was listening to a Henry "Texas Ragtime" Thomas CD that I bought from Dick, and all of a sudden a whistle comes in. Turns out he was playing the quills or cane flute. A couple of other early jug bands also had whistles, or cane flutes. So, you fit right in to jugband music!

Roger the Skiffler - We have got to play together sometime!

JAB

P.S. Annie, has your email changed in the last year?


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: lamarca
Date: 21 Oct 05 - 02:50 PM

I consider complaining about the food to be one of the traditional and fun activities that go hand in hand with folk festivals! I can't think of a single folk event that I've been to over the past twenty-odd years (some of them odder than others...) where whinging about some aspect of the food wasn't part of the ambience. Like the year NOMAD moved and we had to buy food from the high-school "Hospitality Service-in-Training" class instead of local ethnic food vendors. Or Sandy Paton and KarenK's dislike of the ethnic food providers at NEFFA (too much "Weird" food, not enough hamburgers or chicken fried steak!) Or the long lines at booths at OldSongs. Or the formerly inedible Kosher meals at Camp Isabella Freedman (they've improved over the past few years, thus depriving us of a source of amusement in crafting interesting ways of describing the strange green spinach goo and other horrors). Or the complaints at the Washington Folk Festival about Dave Laning's bulk-purchased turkey salad sandwiches - until the year he stopped doing the food, and folks complained that the new sandwiches weren't as good as the old ones...

This is a sociologically important way in which members of a group forge community through shared adversity. Let's hear it for RoadKill Helper!


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: annamill
Date: 21 Oct 05 - 03:13 PM

Sounds like the best Getaway ever! Honey refuses to discuss the getaway. He misses it too much. Maybe someday we'll be back.

I missed going very much. Sniff...sniff..

Love, Annamill


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: GutBucketeer
Date: 21 Oct 05 - 04:55 PM

Annamill: WE MISSED YOU TWO TOO! The Cabins are certainly quieter without you guys. Put it on the calendar for next year!

JAB


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Lonesome EJ
Date: 21 Oct 05 - 05:43 PM

The Ravens

'Tis the gift to be simple,


(Two distilled music from the afternoon Sun,)


'tis the gift to be free,


(Four listened to Guitar and Harp blending notes that danced)


'tis the gift to come down


(like lit leaves trembling in October breezes)


where we ought to be,


(treetops above us roar and hush in counterpoint)


and when we find ourselves in the place just right,


(the Quaker, the Troubador, the Accordianist and Me)


'twill be in the valley of love and delight.


(My back in green grass and blue sky singing above me)


When true simplicity is gained


(Above us Four Ravens hang motionless in the Breeze)


to bow and to bend we shan't be ashamed,


(Music grant me power my soul likewise to hover)


to turn, turn, will be our delight


(and find my way, lifted in up-rushing joy)


till by turning, turning we come round right.


(wheel on the wind toward Heaven)



Thanks to everyone for a beautiful and memorable weekend.

LEJ


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: GUEST,GUest, Shy Person
Date: 21 Oct 05 - 06:04 PM

I am posting anonymously for reasons which will be clear. I've been a member of FSGW for about 20 years, I've been attending Getaways for most of that time. I get upset reading Getawaymemories threads each year with all the entries from the We-All-Love-Each-Other-So-Much crowd. People just love each other, singing together, love helping each other by giving rides etc, giving parties, inviting each other to their homes or any place to sing together. I'm just not a member of the in crowd. I'm shy, I get lost in the crowd. Even though I'm shy, I love to have friends. I have some friends who I cherish. I'd like to connect with more people, so I force myself to overcome my shyness and start conversations with people everywhere -- sessions, meals, workshops and singarounds, the crafters' tables, while standing in line for meals etc. I'm still an outsider. It really hurts. I'm a nice guy, I help people whenever I can, say nice things, etc., but my outreach is not returned often. I know that shy people are frequently overlooked, but, hey, it's been 20 years at FSGW and almost as many at Getaways. It's time for someone to say "hello" at the very least, maybe even include me in activities or say "thank you" for my kindnesses. Think about it. Try to be friendly to shy people.


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Celtaddict
Date: 21 Oct 05 - 06:15 PM

Shy Person, I am really sorry your Getaways have felt that way. I was truly a first time outsider, but am not shy myself except when it comes to singing in public, so it was probably easier. Music itself can communicate when words to strangers are difficult.
What sort of music do you like? Do you sing, play, listen, or a combination?
I plan to come next year, and will be in DC area from time to time because I have a brother there. Please PM me. Maybe we can get to know one another a bit and next Getaway will each already know someone!


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Leadfingers
Date: 21 Oct 05 - 06:16 PM

I can now actually post something sensible !! Half an hour ago the man from Air France delivered my missing luggage - THE BANJOLA !!!
I managed to get pointed in the wrong direction at Charles De Gaulle Airport and missed my correct connection back to Heathrow , where , on arrival there was a distinct lack of Banjola !
Any way , having served fourteen years in the Military , I have eaten a LOT worse food and slept in a LOT worse conditions than at Ramblewood and withe most decidedly worse comrades !
My Ego had rather more than its fair share of massaging during my USA trip , not least David Scheim almost demanding that I play some whistle with him and Lucy !
And thanks again to Bill D for not just turning up at my Whistle Workshop , but showing that he could have run it as well , with the questions and comments he added .
Lorcan for inviting me to join the buskers , (And Greg , of course , though we have jammed before ) . And ALL the people who did concert spots ( IF I was still running a club I would seriously think about booking ALL of you )
So I now have the target of saving enough pennies from my gigs to try to get over again as soon as possible !
Thanks to SINS , Wysiwyg , Severn , Fortunato ,Max and Jerry Rasmussen (Caught up with Jerry and The Messengers on the way back North) who all gave me a roof over my head and the usual Average mudcat friendship on my way through .


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Peace
Date: 21 Oct 05 - 06:31 PM

Dear Shy Person,

I have been shy most of my life. I know the feeling. It sucks. A 'catter--two actually--had asked me why I didn't go this year. Truthful answer? I just didn't think I'd be welcome. I feel no sense of angst about it or anything like that. I still very much like many, many people who post to the Mudcat. But the Getaway is a world I will likely never visit. You are not alone; there are others who understand. Keep well.


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Ebbie
Date: 21 Oct 05 - 06:51 PM

Guest Shy, I don't know who you are; I didn't notice any severely shy person at the Getaway. I'm not shy so I don't relate on that level; however, I AM morbidly unable to participate in the things I love so much - the song, the sharing of songs I know so well. I can almost not bear being-looked-at, and all its accompanying traumas, and I definitely cannot bear praise. I'm no kid- this is something I should have confronted and conquered long, long ago.

So. In the meantime, what are we weird ones supposed to do? I expect that for you as well as for me, the answer lies in an acceptance of ourselves as peer to other human beings. (I must say, I've come some distance from where I was long ago when I truly felt that I had very little right to be in this world, as though I was unique in some nefarious way. Eventually it occurred to me that other people had arrived the same way as I - we all had equal rights. That helped.)

Now, the one thing I have noticed about shy and other non-coping people is that their main shield against rejection is the non-communicative face. When one's face is sealed off and almost grim, it takes a brave person to reach beyond it. Keep in mind that people WANT people around them to be comfortable and happy and when they are so obviously NOT but won't give a clue as to what the problem is, the onlooker has no way of knowing what to do, and is most likely to give it up, leaving you bereft and lonely.

So, #1: Accept that the problem is in YOU. YOU will have to take the first step toward the solution. I can promise you that other people will be receptive, especially if you are pragmatic in who you make that first tentative move to. Reach out to the person that you can tell is having a good time- that person will want to include you. Avoid the angry, critical, negative, whining person.

#2: Act AS IF. When I absolutely have to do something I'm going to act as if I wasn't nervous because when other people can't tell that you are petrified they will treat you as one of them, i.e. just normally uptight. And believe me, that will make YOU feel better.

#3: Life is short, to coin a phrase. In my case, NOT overcoming my inabilities will not shorten my life- it will only affect the richness of it. But shyness- the inability to unlock the doors, or at least a window, of your prison isolation can kill. Humankind, I think, is meant to have and requires connection to others.

#4: Have fun. Plan it. The times I am able to stay in the moment and just steep myself in the creativity around me are precious.

#5: The occasional failure to connect is temporary and it's OK. Everybody has bad moments, bad days, bad moods. Everybody is fragile, everybody on occasion wonders if there is something wrong with them. It is the human condition.

Wow. Sorry. I'll stop. But please do think in terms of what YOU can do to get out of it, rather than asking others to fix it.


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Bobert
Date: 21 Oct 05 - 06:55 PM

Now I know that most folks will find this to be difficult to swallow, but I "The Bobert" am also shy but...

... so what???

Yeah, just takes a little discipline and effort and anyone can carve out some very meaninful relationships with the vast variety of folks who attend the Getaway...

No, it ain't easy at first but guess what, shy??? Once you make the effort, it pays back some purdy big dividends as friendships evolve and mature...

And, yeah, you can PM me if you'd like an' I'd be more than happy to chum up wid ya'... Sho nuff would...

Bobert


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: GUEST,Annie
Date: 21 Oct 05 - 07:06 PM

Janie:   As usual, it's you. Even Mom will tell you that....as long as I get ahold of her before you do. Nice try sucking up to the 'rents with a gardening visit. I plan to counter with an offer of housing at the beach.

Shy One: Hope you will keep trying. It sounds a lot more intimate on mudcat than it really is in within hand shaking distance. We're all just doing the best we can. I reconcile myself to feeling like an outsider and sometimes my heart pounds in anxiety about whether or not to share some music. Accepting it gives me freedom to reach out.

Nancy: I am so glad you like my pics. I'll be happy to email them to you.....but I don't know who your other son is ...because I'm just generally in my own little world and clueless. Try PMing me and I'll try to get my cookie back in order. Or PM my shameless sister.

Annie


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Lonesome EJ
Date: 21 Oct 05 - 07:11 PM

Personally, I'd be afraid to be there when Bobert finally breaks out of his shell. We all witnessed what a wall-flower the boy is.

LEJ
1/4 of the Pedestrians


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: skarpi
Date: 21 Oct 05 - 07:13 PM

Halló all, Annie thanks for the pictures, I can´t wait to see more from others , since I " Forgot my camera In Iceland " &%%&"#$#%&"#%&&
so all the best Skarpi Iceland.,

Shy hmmmmmmmm , been there , done that , but not anymore.
Love you all,,,,,,


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: jacqui.c
Date: 21 Oct 05 - 07:15 PM

I know that there were quite a number of shy people at the Getaway this year. I was one of them, but a few years ago I decided that, unless I got past that problem I was not going to enjoy life to the full. It takes a while, mostly, for me to really open up but the Getaway is one of the few places where I do not have that problem.

I agree with Ebbie's post but would add that it is sometimes not enough just to strike up conversations with others and expect to be magically included in. You have to put yourself out to include yourself in - join in the music, sing a song or play a tune, even if you don't think that you are very good.


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Leadfingers
Date: 21 Oct 05 - 07:48 PM

In Common with a LOT of 'performers' I am another Over-Compensated Introvert , and always find the first song VERY difficult when I am gigging , so I usually start with the Second one !


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Maryrrf
Date: 21 Oct 05 - 07:54 PM

I also understand how you feel, shy guest. There is nothing more difficult than being in a big gathering where many people already know each other. I'm shy too - well, shy of talking to strangers but after forcing myself to sing in front of people for many years I'm not shy about that - you could say I've mostly overcome my stage fright. But it is daunting and difficult to be in a large group of people - such as at a cocktail party, office gathering, etc. The Getaway was friendlier than must such events because everybody was at least united by a love of folk music. I came with a friend (who didn't know anybody) and I had met a few people from FSGW and sort of knew at least who many of the Mudcatters were, mostly from lurking and occasionally posting on Mudcat. I found that being even slightly known on Mudcat that made me less of a stranger. Might I suggest that you quietly start posting on Mudcat and then at the next gathering make sure people are aware that you are a 'Catter, and communicate to them your Mudcat name? That might help. Good luck and I hope you will come to the next Getaway.


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Ebbie
Date: 21 Oct 05 - 08:16 PM

Maryrrf, after seeing Lorcan's pictures on his flickr Photopage thread, I now know who you are. You have a beautiful voice.


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: GUEST
Date: 21 Oct 05 - 08:53 PM

Shy person, are you in the habit of approaching a group of people who are in a discussion about a particular subject, and horning in with a question that is in no way relevent?

I sometimes have the opposite problem. There are times when I need to be left alone and the only way I can do that is to hide somewhere. I get "over peopled" and I have to get away. I love the people who love me, but the problem is ME not them. Owning the problem is the first step in dealing with it. As Pogo said "We have met the enemy, and he is US"


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Barry Finn
Date: 21 Oct 05 - 10:01 PM

Hi to all, including the shy ones. The FSGWer's, Mudcatter's, Britt's & all other folkies, everywhere(a little Tiny Tim'ish, it was like Xmas in heaven though). 1st off I need to thank mostly Charlie Baum & Rita, Carly & Nancy among the 4 of you, you pulled off a wicked Grand Slam. Thanks to you too Charlie Noble (your spare key's in the mail tomorrow) for being captain of the Van Pool & taking on Justine & me as crew, it was a fantastic voyage. Couldn't care less about the food, with my 2 bad feet I'd climbed a mountain & ate shit all the way up in order to arrive, it was worth all that & more. I don't like the 'I liked this & I liked that' because with a lousy memory I can't remember who did what & who didn't, knowing I'm leaving some out & I also don't want some others to feel left out, mostly I'd just like to thank some poeople. Colleen Cleveland thanks for joining me in the ballad's workshop, your name should have been foremost & thanks for your CD. I'm positive your Grandmother Sara would've been so proud to see/hear you really carrying on her traditional family tradition as a source singer & in keeping her songs & collections alive. From listening to you explain & sing her ballads you really do her & the folk world justice. Here's to you Dan Schatz for your truthful commenting when I asked about my voice, it was quite helpful. I was planning on trying to sing just a few songs to see how things went & thought I was pretty much out of the game, to my ear any way. I very much lacked in my ability to sing but was surprised that I was found to be fairly appreciated, I really did think that people where just being kind with the comments, thanks for the reassurances. Truthfully 3 days at the Getaway did more for my voice (& me) than the past 3 months of recuperating. George "El Greco", I'm glad you commented on appreciating my song ('You Wouldn't Know It To Look At Me' or 'These Ol Walls'?), that meant a lot when coming from someone as yourself, IMHO a very talented genius, you're a very nice human. I've been telling Justine, since my 1st getaway (1999 or 2000??) about Rubber Ducky (Justine's been in Child Care all her adult life & it's time she learned something appropriate to sing) & Janice Cole's impeccable & sexy rendition of it. NOBODY DOES THIS LIKE JANICE. Thanks Janice for answering my request as well as others who also requested it. It was great to meet, see & hear so many new & old bodies (I don't mean those under 7 & over 70, only, either). One thing! Micca, you introduced me to your wife, thank you but you didn't tell me she was catsPHiddle, thank Christ I found out before I left, nice to have finally met you catsPHiddle. I guess that the most smashing time for me was singing "Won't You Help Me To Raise E'm" in concert with Ken, Jeri & the Tremendous Theresa T. Theresa you only pinched the left side of my bum on stage the other side now feel's left out. It was getting close for me, if not depressing, not getting to hear Ron Davies sing (I tried to request him at a circle but it didn't pan out) thru out the Getaway but ah, Sunday I got to hear him rooling & drooling, always liked that man's singing & his politics. Once again thanks to all the FSGWer's for once more opening up your house, hearts & homes to all of us who would never had experienced such a musical miracle if it weren't for you. I know that each of us has something to offer whether it's performing or conducting workshops or leading/following in jams & swaps & those that just appreciate, hell you appreciators are probably the most important element. With out you we way as well go home & sing to ourselves, thak you. Out of all the events I've ever been to your Getaway would be 1st & foremost on my list to attend & I'm deeply grateful for your welcoming of each of us & all others. THANKS.


P.S.

This was my wife's (Justine) 1st getaway thanks to all of you for making her feel welcomed & so at home, she had quite a spectacular time.


Lot's of love, all around

Barry Finn


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: KT
Date: 21 Oct 05 - 10:15 PM

Shy person, I'm shy too, sometimes, especially in new situations where I know few people. Last year was my first Getaway. I knew only one other person when I got there, (Ebbie), but was so excited to meet those I'd become familiar with through their writing here. I think going into a situation like that requires trust. Trust of one another. I so believed in the goodness of the folks there and in our common bond of music. I expected good and was not disappointed.

I told a little story last year which I'll repeat here. When my son came home from his first day of Kindergarten, we had this conversation.

How was your first day of school, son?
It was good.
Do you have any friends in your class?
Yes, Mommy. I have two friends that I know, and a WHOLE BUNCH of friends that I don't know yet.

That's precisely how I felt at the Getaway last year, and again this year. The place was full of friends, some that I knew and some that I've not had the pleasure of meeting yet. And I didn't meet a single one that I didn't like!!! Keep trying shy person, and do come back next year.

KT


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: KT
Date: 21 Oct 05 - 10:34 PM

LEJ,

WOW!!!!

Your words open my heart, make me smile and make me cry at the same time.

Thanks for the picture and for blessing me with your beautiful words!

KT


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Amos
Date: 21 Oct 05 - 11:58 PM

There are a few more pics from the Getaway on this page -- I am too fumble-thumbed to get them to go in with the set Lorcan started, but at least they're there!

LEJ-- as usual man. I am getting the idea that all I need to do if I want to see a bullseye is whisper your name to the West wind...


A


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Ron Davies
Date: 22 Oct 05 - 12:20 AM

Barry--

I am so amazed you wanted to hear me sing. I remember last year or maybe 2 years ago when the late-night session was in full chantey mode--and you were just peeling the wallpaper off with one chantey after another (I still especially really love the Yangtse River one) ---and I was so intimidated I couldn't imagine trying to follow you. I just hoped you'd keep singing them all night--and I just about got my wish.

I suppose it boils down to--anybody can be shy about performing--and it's really hard to think about leading a song as not including at least an element of that. I suppose that's why I like harmonizing so much--it helps the sound but you're not personally on the spot.

It's also a factor that a lot of the songs I most like to sing are in fact British songs--and I suspected strongly that all we had to do was wait and some of the UK contingent would sing them. But I was only partly right about that.

Oh well, I keep telling Jan to never assume anything---and I should take my own advice.

Anyway, it was great to hear you sing--and especially to hear how your voice strengthened throughout the weekend. Hope you're back to 100% soon. Nobody does those chanteys with as much vigor and excitement as you.


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: GUEST,Janie
Date: 22 Oct 05 - 12:43 AM

Still can't get Annie's new pictures. When I click on more photos it just goes to a new blank page. Not getting the little x's to click on Jim. any help appreciated. I suspect I am supposed to notice something else to click on, but what it is--beats me?

Janie (from Parents in WV--so there, Sis!)


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: GUEST,Guest Shy Person
Date: 22 Oct 05 - 02:41 AM

Thanks to all of you who responded sympathetically to my post. I didn't really expect anyone to respond, but I'm glad you did. i will PM some of you who wrote to me.

Peace, I'll admit that I seriously considered not coming to the Getaway this year, but I'm glad I did. Even someone who is not a member of the Inner Circle can have fun there. I did.


Ebbie, thanks for your advice. You and I have walked along same of the up hill paths. I really do want to reach out and connect with other people. The life of a hermit does not appeal to me. I'm pondering your remark about the uncommunicative face. Is my face like that, I wonder? I smile and make eye contact. I know this because other people have told me so. I think you've touched on something very important. Someone once told me that shyness is often mistaken for coldness. maybe that's what's been happening to me. There's the old saying that cry and you cry alone but laugh and the whole world laughs with you. I stick with people and try to help them through their hard times. It's true that virtue is its own and only reward. maybe they don't want to be reminded of their hard times, maybe they want to be surrounded by party people. Alas I'm not much of a party person.

Bobert, do you expect me to believe that you're shy? I appreciate what you said about making the initial effort to reach out to people because it will pay off. Damn it! I've been making that initial effort for 10 or 20 years. The people I've said Hello to so many times over the years might say hello to me by now. Is that asking too much. It takes some time and effort to get to know someone, especially someone who is shy. Ten or 20 years is a long time.

Jacqui, I've been singing songs and tunes for years.

Mary rrf, that's good advice. I've already done that (posting sometimes on Mudcat and telling people my Mudcat name when I meet them.)

KT, I agree with you about the importance of trust. I suspect that your son picked up the habit of trusting from you. (You're a good mother.) It takes a while for me to get to trust someone. I have negative expectations based on things in my past. Shyness may be a misguided defense mechanism. Stand in the shadows so no one will shoot you. I think that may be the key that will open the lock for me. How do I get instant or quick trust?

Ron, you wrote about shyness and performing. Consider the importance of positive feedback. I've heard that it takes nine positive interactions to make up for one negative interaction. You can do a thousand things right and only one thing wrong, but the one thing wrong is often the only thing you hear about.

I didn't expect to write this much. I guess I'm less shy on Mudcat than in person. I *thank* everyone for your advice.


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Big Mick
Date: 22 Oct 05 - 06:53 AM

Shy Person, I think I know exactly who you are. If I am right, I never have seen you as shy, but just a very nice person. I love it when you sit down with me and play while I sing, even if you do ask me to change the key a half step. *****grin***** And I enjoy it more when you engage me in conversation.

I am not sure who is in an inner circle, but you are one of the people I look forward to seeing each year. Now that I know you are shy, I will take a little more time and just sit and talk.

Thanks for pointing this out to everyone. Sometimes we all need to be reminded to just slow down a bit and enjoy the treasures around us. People like you are those treasures.

Your friend, I hope.

Mick


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Big Mick
Date: 22 Oct 05 - 06:58 AM

LEJ, at times I found myself watching you this weekend. I found myself thinking that this is a guy I would like to get to know better. Those beautiful lyrics confirm that for me. I hope we meet again, and just get some time to talk.

All the best,

Mick


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Bobert
Date: 22 Oct 05 - 08:44 AM

Ebbie,

Thanks fir the "comment" in Amos's piccure album but, believe me, you were there in spirit...

Next year, I'll make you part of the band so we'll be sure to have you there in the flesh as well...

BobertsBluesBoys, Amos???

Has a nice ring to it... Yer in next year's band as well...

Anyone else want in???

Sidewalk Bobert and the BluesBoys'nGals


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Amos
Date: 22 Oct 05 - 09:27 AM

Dang and Hallelujah. Here I thought you didn't like my B-sevenths, man!! I'll be there wid bells on.


A


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Linda Goodman Zebooker
Date: 22 Oct 05 - 10:01 AM

Well, I've gotten caught up on sleep -- I try never to sleep during the Getaway, but end up missing things for at least 4 hours a night. Thanks to all who posted the photos. It all seems so REAL while you are immersed in everything there, but once you are back home it's like a great shining dream that happened years ago. Pictures bring it back a little.

Thanks to Rita, Nancy King and Carly for a wonderful program AGAIN! The longer format was great -- you could soak it in without looking at a watch, or you could more easily double up on workshops. Got to go to Mia's workshop and learn songs in Bulgarian (Croatian?) AND then get to the Shanty workshop in time to hear and sing loudly with the incredible trio on Help Me to Raise 'Em Boys.

Great to meet more of the people whose posts I have enjoyed reading for the past few years. The Duck family - wow!

Highlights for me:

Seeing that luxurious wedding/birthday spread with all the fancy geegaws on Friday night - what a welcome!

Being in on the Mudcat-generated plans for a "production number" and preparing and performing with the "Ladies of the Club" on Sat. What fun... giggle, shhh! giggle. Ah to wear a pink tutu again! Great ideas, Jacqui and SINSULL.

Singing along with the slightly warped group outside the dining hall on Friday night

Seeing the moon and stars so clear. I live in downtown Bethesda MD which has very bright lights all the time. I literally forget there are stars until I see them at Camp Ramblewood

Laughing for half an hour after hearing "Fido the Rabid Dog" about the flea-ridden Pekinese at the Parody sing

Learning from Bat Goddess about how a teen-aged bat's wings grow so much overnight, it makes them awkward when returning in the morning

Being spellbound by the Underground Railroad song of Loren Ottley's

Hearing from so many people that they remember my son Benny, who won't/can't come to the Getaway anymore. I talked to him on the phone and he said he has such nice memories of the Getaway.

Sunday night after the concert singing everything, including the stand-up-sit-down-link-arms song. It was wonderful how the TV Room and Dinning Hall groups gradually morphed into one big (thanks for the beer!) HARMONIOUS group as one person after the other quietly left the TV Room to get accreted to the Dinning Hall group.
I MUST go to the UK someday --- what spirit!

The warmth: the sun, the warm nights, the people!

I wasn't going to sing at all, except as chorus, not having so much as looked at a song or listened to hardly any folk music (except for the radio program Traditions and my precious cassette tape of the Johnson Girls OF COURSE) for a whole year. I thought I would forget things two words in. So thanks to Lorraine for actually requesting me to sing something. Turned the whole Getaway around for me. (well, that and the pink tutu).

I miss everybody. Have a great year.

--Linda


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Tannywheeler
Date: 22 Oct 05 - 10:25 AM

song fragment:
    KT went whistlin' over the hill--
    Oh, Daddy be gay--
    KT went whistlin' over the hill,
    Says Bobert won't have me--I wonder who will?
    Daddy be gay and eat candy.

I'm gonna have to read more later here. When I finally got to Austin after midnight last night/this morning, and my son took me to his house for a bit before he brought me home to Cedar Creek, I wound up leaving my glasses at his house. I've tried to read some of this, but it ain't workin' very well.

And I was there and met such fabulous people and heard such magnificent music I still don't believe it--and I have lots of new cds to prove it. I'm gonna be like Bob Newhart--wake up next to my hubby later and tell him about this weird dream I had about Fortunato and Bill D. and Ferrara and El Greko and KT and kissing Giok and...well, maybe not KT(what a stunner! Bobert won't have you, come to Texas, honey), cool weather and needing a coat...too weird, he'll say. I'm takin' you to the funnyfarm doc to get medicated before they insist on keepin you for your own safety.

Help me find a way to get hubby there next year. I'll risk him seeing KT for the general good it will do him to experience the whole. I've got the Dance of the River cho. down pat(thank you Amtrak for the looooooooooooooong train ride), but am still laughing too hard on Dog's Life to get my mouth around that.

Evidence I've been gone: when I left, the new garden plot hubby had been working hard on had a coupla struggling rows of pale green specks. Now I'm gonna have to get a machete or Tarzan to get me through...maybe it wasn't a dream?

Can't keep on. Head starting to hurt. Will have to come back after I get my glasses back. I'm considering a song contest about the saga of my Amtrak return home. KT should enter, and El Greko--not Micca; it's too long for Micca--and the prize will be--um, well, I'll work on that.

Me for another lie-down with my eyes closed...hugs and kisses from Central Texas

And--oh, Auntie Em--there's no place like HOME!!!! Tw


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Ferrara
Date: 22 Oct 05 - 10:28 AM

Shy person, thank you for putting in some feedback about how you feel.   I think the reminder will stick in people's minds.

I have an image of two or three shy persons at the Getaway but your comment that "you are nice to people" makes me suspect I can narrow it down more....

If I'm right, you have quite a musical talent and can join in, at least in backing people up, and will quite naturally be absorbed into the flow of music and talk.

If you don't make music yourself, it gets much harder. People relate to the music so strongly that they naturally feel a flow of warmth to the people who have shared it with them.

But I found when I first started coming, that there's another way to become visible at the Getaway, and that is to listen eagerly to whoever you are talking to. Start conversations with "hello, how are you doing?" or "Hi, I'm ----, how are you enjoying the weekend?" and listen. Ask where people are from, etc, etc, the obvious questions, and you and they will quickly feel that you know each other and have passed time together that was special.

I actually reversed this process. I learned that I was spending the entire weekend in conversation and that I felt left out because I was missing so much of the music, so eventually I decided to do more of my conversing away from the Getaway and spend my time at the Getaway joining in with the music. That's what I don't get enough of! ... or should I say, "Music is that of which I do not get enough..."?

Best of luck to you for next year ... and if you are really the person I suspect, do give me that phone call! ... and I'll do the same for you.

Hugs,
Rita


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Jeri
Date: 22 Oct 05 - 10:32 AM

And if Mick's wrong about who you are, he might accidentally be nice to someone else.

I've never been shy, but I've suffered from a lack of confidence I've tried to pass off as shyness. Shy people may not lack confidence though, and they'd really rather NOT be in the middle of things or perhaps even noticed.

Getting 'upset about reading Getaway memory threads' sounds an awful lot like the Christmas thread we once had where someone said they really hated reading about everybody else's happiness. I'm planning on enjoying and contributing to these 'huggy' threads without guilt, as much as the FSGW members who aren't on Mudcat probably enjoy talking about the Getaway at the monthly sings or other events. I can't make other people happy and I have enough work making myself happy these days.

Listen to Ebbie's wise advice. (please forgive me for the praise ;-) I developed a bunch of different ways to cope. One of them was telling that little (figurative) voice that said 'Well, I'd LIKE to, but...' to shut the heck up right before the 'but'. Another things is to live in the moment. Have fun where you are, with whomever your with, even if they aren't a good friends. Most people aren't good freiends but just enjoy each other's company. That joking-around stuff may be awkward for you because it's not your style. Don't let anybody make you believe it has to be. If you ask, people probably enjoy you for how you are, not how you think you should be. If you're you're an elusive Luna moth and think you need to be a social butterfly, faggedaboutit! Luna moths are rare and mysterious, and many people never notice them. When they DO, it's usually with a hushed sort of wonder.

People are likely not as close as they can seem. I'm thinkin' of a Fri night jam, watching Bobert & Claymore play together. Why did I NOT get a photo of THAT?! I notice now that most of the things I really enjoyed, I wasn't actually involved in. They're things I just loved watching or listening to.

LEJ - Exquisite poem, but are you sure those weren't turkey buzzards? I owe you a PM.

Peace - I really had hoped you'd be a surprise attendee. I would have loved to have met you and heard your music. Maybe next year?


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: SINSULL
Date: 22 Oct 05 - 12:06 PM

Shy One,
Every year I have a long argument with myself about whether or not I will go to the Getaway. I don't play an instrument. My music of choice is shared by only a few. I feel as if I will be "found out".

By committing to transport people I get locked into going. And when I am overwhelmed I sneak off alone to breathe.

You probably won't believe this but Kendall tells me he feels the same way sometimes. Your feelings are "normal". What you do about them is the key.

PM me if you like. No doubt, there will be some Friday night silliness next year and we always need help putting it together, setting it up, arranging surprises for a victim or two. Come play with us.

The Inner Circle thing doesn't exist anywhere but in our minds. There was a time when I would never have approached Ron (yes, you Ron) or Carly or Janice because I thought they were part of the incredibly funny, talented Inner Circle where I didn't belong. Keith still intimidates me - go figure. Most of the FSGW members are so knowledgeable and multi-talented I feel as if I am way out of my league. Then someone like Judy Cook dons a tutu and reminds me that we are all there to share the music. Even among Mudcatters, I can be overwhelmed - it took me two days to get past my inhibitions and approach the Ducks.

If you can get to Maine, join us for a Song Circle. The regulars here always encourage the shy ones to share their talents. And you will have a ready-made entourage for next year's festivities. I have no idea who you are. There are a few people at the Getaway who always keep to themselves and given my shyness I don't intrude. I guess I will make a point of introducing my self to everyone - Scary!

Mary "SINS"


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Dani
Date: 22 Oct 05 - 12:11 PM

Inner circle my ass.

I just have to say that, lest someone think there IS one.

There're people who know each other's names already, and friends we haven't met yet. It's just that some of us met in person the FIRST time we charged the Getaway, and each year more and more people know a face AND a name, and a song they want someone to especially do, or a group they can't wait to sing with again, and common memories they share from previous years.

You already fit most of these criteria, Shy One, so you've got your membership, just your card's in your pocket instead of pinned on the front of your shirt. Keep being yourself, and come on in.

Dani


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Big Mick
Date: 22 Oct 05 - 12:22 PM

Atta girl, Dani.


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Janie
Date: 22 Oct 05 - 12:34 PM

Rats. And here it is I thought this year I had finally made my way into the outer fringes of the inner circle, only to hear that there isn't one;>)

Actually--I can see that the Bobert is shy. I can see that a lot of us are less than fully confident in ourselves. But if there is one thing I have gotten from the Getaway, it is encouragement and the sense that whatever any of us have to offer, as it comes from the joy in the music, is received as a welcomed gift.

I'm no good at chitchat. For most of my life I felt like I was on the outside, looking in. Somewhere along about age 40 I began to understand that whether I feel "part of" or "apart from" others is entirely the result of my own perception. Sometimes I'm a participant, sometimes I'm an observer, and sometimes I am a participant-observer. I have learned to be reasonably comfortable in any of those positions.

At the Getaway, until this year I felt like a country bumpkin with my hillbilly accent and lack of scholarly knowledge, and just knowing the songs I know instead of having hunted up all the old ballads, or learned to sing in a particular "traditional" style.

This year, I DECIDED to just be ok with who I am, how I sing and what I know (or don't.) That change in my own perspective made a huge difference in my comfort level. Friday night, I remember Sinsull turning around to me while I was arranging flowers and saying "Why are you being so unsocialable?" (with a smile and an intent to include me.) I surprised myself by responding honestly, "That's just my nature."

Shy one, whoever you are, just be yourself and learn to be comfortable in your own skin. You might find you like it.
Even more important, you will probably find that others already do.

All the best,
Janie


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: kendall
Date: 22 Oct 05 - 12:59 PM

Believe it or not, I know what it's like to feel like a clam digger at a Mensa convention.
Years of hanging out with great people such as those in the FSGW and the Mudcat convinced me that it was all in my head.


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: KT
Date: 22 Oct 05 - 01:01 PM

Ah Shy one, go back and read the words of all these good people one more time. And believe what they say, for they are wise indeed.

At the Getaway, I found myself thinking that I'd love to just sit and talk with people. I often think when I'm in an airport or restaurant or other crowded place, that if I could have an hour to sit down and listen to the story of any one of those people, I'd be amazed at the story that would unfold, and my life would be richer for it. I feel that way at the Getaway, too, but the weekend is about sharing music so I have to learn who they are through their music and the snippets of conversation we may be able to have here and there.

Shy One, you've asked about trust and how to "get it." You've taken a huge leap in that direction by expressing your feelings here, and surely you've noticed that you were "caught" by all these loving people. Ah, your Getaway experience continues......

One more thought, perhaps next year on your name tag, you should write Shy One in fine print and watch what happens.

Now Tannywheeler, about that medication......

"Next year, I'll make you part of the band....... " Ebbie, beware those words. I heard them once.....sniff......

KT


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Big Mick
Date: 22 Oct 05 - 01:03 PM

Janie, for what it is worth, seeing you and Annie is always a big part of this for me. I often watch you listening to the music, and you just get taken away by it. You sway, or dance, and it always reminds me what this is all about. Some folks that I watch at gatherings like this always seem to think it is about them. I watch you and know it is about the music, about helping folks feel a feeling, or understand a story.

And by the way, you have a great voice.

I sure am thankful that y'all make your way here each year.

Mick


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Ebbie
Date: 22 Oct 05 - 01:13 PM

What a bunch of wise (asses?) souls. It is not to wonder at the spirit of the Getaway.

Incidentally I'm not usually as much of a basket case as I've described- (I'm worse!)   

The main thing I'm working toward at the Getaway, and in overall life, is to participate in spite of. One of these days/years I want to sit in a song circle and when it comes my turn, I want to share a song without fear or protestation and just enjoy the voices that join in and make the dense music that I love.

My guess is that what most of us want of ourselves. The fact that so many of us are already there is just a bonus to us all. (And you don't have to wait for us to catch up- lead us on, OK?)


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: KT
Date: 22 Oct 05 - 01:30 PM

And here's the irony in that, Ebbie.....think of the numbers of people YOU have helped to achieve that, myself, included. (That's what Go Ask Elva was all about!!)

KT


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Dani
Date: 22 Oct 05 - 01:31 PM

Hey, perhaps we should start one of them BS:therapy threads?

The first Getaway I went to, I was TERRIFIED! But I knew I wanted to be with other people who love to sing, and was charmed by the invitation FSGW extended to this community.

I practiced the few songs that I was confident in singing alone for 8 hours in the car.

When I got there, it was Friday night, and a song circle had formed. I'd never even SEEN a song circle, let alone heard voices of that calibre. Didn't know who was who, but now realize it was mostly FSGW folks with a few 'catters thrown in. I can still remember the growing horror as the turn passed nearer and nearer to me, and I thought that any second I would have to leave the room to vomit. Then I sang my shaky, nervous song, and for the first time was lifted up by the sound of all those voices joining in. It's still not easy for me to lead a song, but I get better at it all the time, because I love to sing with you/them and that's the price of admission, right?

Then, there was the magical Mudcat Cafe the next day, the first gathering of Mudcatters (that I'm aware of) facing each other around a room, with a chance to sing what they wanted to introduce themselves with. I will ALWAYS remember pieces of that day: Barry singing "You Wouldn't Know It To Look At Me", Allan singing a lovely song in Portuguese with the gorgeous, driving guitar, too many others to name.

THAT was the beginning of any 'inner circle'. Just remember that the circle will open and grow every time someone pulls up a chair.

Dani


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Ebbie
Date: 22 Oct 05 - 01:34 PM

Wow.


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Amos
Date: 22 Oct 05 - 01:38 PM

KT:

OK, I've heard enough; I know you are trying to put a brave songster face on your feeling of rejection because Sidwalk Bob thought you were too chic for the blues. But the pain is showing through, ain't it?   So we're gonna cook up a little surprise for him next year, and hit him between his furry little eyebrows with the "Juneau Dairy Queen Blues" and the "Long Long Night in Winter in Alaska" blues and the "Esimo Baby, Rub My Nose One More Time" blues, and "It' All Looks the Same When you ain't the Lead Dog Anymore" Blues and mebbe even the "Sasquatch Is Melting My Igloo and Setting My Heart On Fire" blues. And you'll be belting them out like Bessie Smith, and we'll put him in the parking lot and blow his ears off from the dining room with 'em. Teach that boy to trust his first instincts!! Yowzah!!

You up for that? Damned if I can stand around nodding and smiling when there's a damsel in distress!!! LOL


A


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: KT
Date: 22 Oct 05 - 01:56 PM

Amos! You crack me up!! You got a deal. We'll get workin' on those songs right away! And won't Ol' Bobert be surprised!!?? We'll show him what the Blues is all about.! You in, Eb?

Dani! I love your description of your first song circle and dreading your turn, and thinking you were going to lose your cookies in anticipation. I can relate!! Funny how one just has to get up to stretch their legs about two people away from their turn.

I remember being at Chance's last year and TJ was leading a song where everyone had to take a turn doing a little lick . I was dying to say nothing of being all thumbs when it came to my turn! Make that toes!! But it was fun anyway, and the memory makes me smile.

Dani, I'm so glad you brought your daughters. Cheez whiz on sweet corn! Cracked me up!

Dang! I didn't know when I bought this computer that it had a very powerful magnet in it. It just keeps pullin' me back!! I'm gonna have to lock it up in the shed.

KT


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: jacqui.c
Date: 22 Oct 05 - 02:10 PM

KT - I think I have the same sort of magnet in my PC.


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Tinker
Date: 22 Oct 05 - 02:18 PM

Dani did better than I did my first Getaway back in 2000. I can honestly say I didn't lead a single song and was often too overwhelmed to come in on the chorus. There is such a wonderful kalidescope of music and emotion that I find myself being carried along with it now and then. Each year provides new patterns and pieces.
This year in particular I found myself without time to meet everyone I wanted to meet and there were folks I never caught up with that I fully planned to when I walked in the door.
I'm often a tad distracted. I know I was in a wonderful conversation with Jeannie and then got pulled back into auction duties and was lost on the tide.

But I did finally get a walk down by the river with wonderful conversation with an old friend better met

And I got to know Giok and share some time...even if the strings weren't quite what he asked for...

Saturday night's dining hall sing standing between Jimmny T and EJ infront of Amos as the music just roilicked & rambled from song to song from one genre to the next. Harmonies and rhythmns shifting and rolling right to the rafters.

Taking a deep breath and going with Miss Mary's costume choice ...

Being told more than once I wasn't old enough to have teenagers (Thankyou)

Watching folks just let loose and enjoy on Sunday night people watching and singing and just enjoying the moment. Finally a few moments to talk with EJ ....

Hugs well met and very well meant. I too move in and out occaisionally needing a slight break and I'm one who usually only leads a song in smaller groups. But the only bits and pieces of groups are built on shared memories and each year the circle who share those gets larger.

Sharing my house on either side of Getaway and being able to take a little bit of the magic home to share with my family.

Thank You all


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Amos
Date: 22 Oct 05 - 03:10 PM

OK, BLues Queen of the Frozen North, yer on. I'll work up some roughs and send them to you on a CD, if I ever get an addy. That's two I owe ya.

Can't wait to hear yer take on 'em, adding that powdered sugar to the sawmill texture, ya know...

LOL!


A


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Celtaddict
Date: 22 Oct 05 - 03:13 PM

Of all I saw and heard, and I mostly watch and listen as I am not a musician myself, not once did I see anything remotely resembling exclusion. (Though I was not there to see KT booted from the Pedestrians; who would have the gall or the wish to boot her from anything anywhere?) Many times I did observe inclusion. Many times I did see or hear someone invite or encourage someone else. Many times was I myself the recipient of this from someone, who was of course either a minimal acquaintance or a stranger as those were all who were there from my point.


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Allan C.
Date: 22 Oct 05 - 03:14 PM

Good grief! You people have made me go back and relive my first Getaway! Nobody could have been more of a mass of jelly when we had a massive singaround that first morning. As my turn approached I became more and more nervous. I hadn't sung in front of anyone other than family for decades! And now I was going to have to sing before a room filled with only about a dozen people whose names I sorta knew - as well as some eighty or so folks I didn't know at all! As each person did their bit, I began feeling more and more outclassed. I seriously began to consider backing out the door.

Finally, my turn came. I started to play and sing "Two Brothers" but quickly reached a place where I flubbed the chords and couldn't figure out how to resume the song. Instead, I switched to "Curimao." Somehow, I didn't screw up that one. I can't say the applause was anything more than polite. But then, I was still too shook up to be objective.

Actually, I didn't have any idea at all how it was received until I got a PM a few days later that said:

"I could feel the feeling you put into that first song I heard you play." to which was added, "... That session was a special time, and it probably will never be repeated in the same way. I really enjoyed making your acquaintance. We will be friends a long time. But do me a favor, don't tell anyone that I am a big marshmallow. It will screw up my tough guy rep."

So, I won't tell you who it was. I can only say that over the years I have continued to receive encouragement from this same person. I can't begin to tell you how much that has meant.

It was from that small bit of encouragement that a much more outgoing me began to grow. I still have bouts of shyness at times and still wonder from time to time if I really have anything to contribute. But somehow I have acquired enough confidence to be able to stand up at the Getaway's open mikes for each of the succeeding years, even though that has often been my only performance of the year.

I guess what I'm trying to say here is that shy folks, if they listen carefully, are likely to hear enough encouragement to justify whatever it might take for them to "put on their game face," to come to the Getaway, and to make part in all it has to offer. Friends - or even the potential for new friends abound at the Getaway. Every year I make it a point to approach someone I don't know and to strike up a conversation. This year I did that with Marynf and her companion, (sorry, I am horrible at remembering names and hers is no exception, I have an empty file folder in my brain marked wth the letter "D" but am not sure that's even right,) and Amiel Shotz. Both encounters were greatly rewarding.

If you are reading this and have waffled about whether to come to the Getaway, please consider how many people have come from as far away as Guam and Iceland knowing almost nobody there. I'm sure they would tell you that even if they hadn't known a single soul, they would have become well acquainted with a heck of a lot of them by the end of the weekend if they had made even the slightest effort.

End of ramble


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Celtaddict
Date: 22 Oct 05 - 03:19 PM

KT and Shy Person: I LOVE the idea of seeing an assortment of people showing up at the next Getaway with "shy one" added to their name tags. What a lovely reminder to all that someone who hesitates is wishing to be asked to join in. Love of music and wishing to share it are the reasons we are all there. I rather like that you have not given us your "other" names (Mudcat or everyday). I suspect I am not the only one who next year will find myself making a point of seeking out a variety of people who seem to hover around the margins waiting a bit more personal inclusion, hoping I do talk and sing with the original "Shy Person."


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Celtaddict
Date: 22 Oct 05 - 03:23 PM

Allan C, that was Maria with Maryrrf. I kept hoping we could get her to sing too. . . .


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 22 Oct 05 - 03:34 PM

Well I just loved meeting everyone, and maybe next year with a new hip or two, I'll be back and better able to get around, although the new place is supposed to be flatter so even if I only get one hip done I shall be better off.
Went to the Martin factory in Nazareth and did the factory tour, very interesting, should have gone on the Wednesday, but sat on the interstate for two hours because of a truck wreck, and missed that day, so went on Thursday instead.
I spent Sunday and Monday nights at Snoozy Max Spiegel's place and had lovely time; even got to meet Lily. Thank you your Lordship for the bed.
Am now at Sinsulls, and awaiting this evening's happening with joyfull anticipation, also had a brill evening at the Press Room last night.
Deep joy all round so far.
Giok


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: KT
Date: 22 Oct 05 - 03:44 PM

Celtaddict, I love the idea too! And I KNOW that anyone who saw it would scoop Shy One up in a minute! I don't think there's a person there who wouldn't extend themselves to a person they knew was shy. It's just that "shy" is hard to decipher without a little help.

And Celtaddict, I loved meeting you, even though our time was mostly limited to the Pub Sing and my asking you, what did s(he) say? That pub sing was so awesome!!! I've never been to one before, but to hear one voice toss out a verse and have a hundred other voices come in on the chorus.....it was so joyful and exhilarating! Is that how it is over there? I wanna visit!!


KT


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: skarpi
Date: 22 Oct 05 - 03:44 PM

Halló Giok , did get one ?
Glad that you are Okei my old friend.
Hear from you later.
All the best Skarpi Iceland,


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Celtaddict
Date: 22 Oct 05 - 03:49 PM

This does bring up an idea that could make a thread of its own but I am leaving it here because I am asking it of myself specifically with the next Getaway in mind.
Some of us dearly love the music but are not performers. It's that simple. A friend of mine explained this role in the Folk Process to me years ago: we don't create, we don't perform (mercifully), we don't even really collect (just accumulate). He says we are Carriers. We pick up CDs or tapes or scratch paper and go to another person and say, "Have you heard this song?" If we do this long and often and well we rather often have the reward of hearing a song we love sung in what we think is just the right voice or venue.
At the Getaway there is such a richness of singers that in a circle that probably will not make it all the way round before the end of the allotted time, it seems a shame to take up time in which a "real" singer could present a song. I have seen threads in which people bemoan the participation at circles by singers who don't know the song well or do not carry the melody well or otherwise are not performers. I have seen other threads in which people are very supportive of all participation, the "if you can talk, you can sing" approach, and even threads in which people comment there is something not quite right about not taking one's turn with a song, not unlike not standing one's round (and even as a non-drinker I know better than that). I personally feel rather selfish if I soak up all the grand music without contributing, but also figure I am not the only one who would rather hear singers who are better at what they do. I love it that if any two aficionados sit down together, they will know something they can sing together and each will also know a song the other does not, and I have plenty of songs I can virtually guarantee you have not heard elsewhere.

SO, what should I do at the Getaway?

My personal compromise so far has been to listen in the circles/workshops, bring recordings to pass on to folks I think should hear them, and sing myself only in the late-night informal small circles or to this or that individual. (Of course this means I have sometimes placed myself in the absurd position of singing only to "real" musicians I admire, which does not help the self-consciousness a bit!)


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: kendall
Date: 22 Oct 05 - 04:37 PM

I was delighted to see Elana and Holly Black there. Maybe next year they will be picking banjos or guitars? Lovely ladies, both of them.


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Celtaddict
Date: 22 Oct 05 - 04:53 PM

KT, I have never had the privilege (yet!) of being at a pub session in the English part of the UK, but have been to a few in Scotland, and have also been to many in Ireland, mostly in the West. Many are basically instrumental sessions, but many do in fact revolve not around a particular singer or performance, but around the sharing of songs around the room. It happens here, too, if you are in the right place at the right time.
At what could possibly be my all-time favorite, in a small place I am almost loath to identify, participants ranged from about 12 to over 80. When a song with a chorus came up, the roof was raised well and proper. When a solo type song came up, one or two men would (gently but firmly) say to the joiners-in, "one voice, please." (A tradition I have wished for here on occasion.) And possibly my favorite custom there was that when the ambient noise level had crept up between songs and someone started a song in a soft voice (including an elderly lady who was very quiet but new astounding songs) someone with a more robust voice would say, "Song here!" and people would fall quiet to listen. At one point, too, he said "Song from an ELDER here!" and you could have heard a pin drop, though I do not know how that would fly in the U.S.


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Ebbie
Date: 22 Oct 05 - 04:54 PM

Juneau has close ties to Russia and people frequently visit back and forth. One night at a party one Russian told me that in Russia it is considered rude if each person does NOT do something- whether it's a song, a tune, a dance or a poem. Made me stop and think a bit.


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Celtaddict
Date: 22 Oct 05 - 05:08 PM

Ebbie, I have been told that is so at places in Ireland, often. At the one I described, after I had been lapping it up for many hours, a big Scot (who throws his head back, closes his eyes, and sings 8-12 minute Big Ballads) told me, "You have been here listening all day. It is your turn to give us a song." I said, "I don't have the voice for a big place like this." He said, "Then sing a small song. I will listen." He did, too.
I think it is less often spoken, but surely often thought, at places here too.
I know when I joined the one a.m. group at the all-night cabin, as I opened the door, someone said, "Welcome. Your toll is one song." Someone else came in later, and was greeted with "You owe us a song, but you can wait a bit for it." And when one person listened a short while then headed for bed, "You aren't leaving without a song are you?" She did, but it was evident that the folks remaining thought it was not quite right.


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Celtaddict
Date: 22 Oct 05 - 05:08 PM

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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Celtaddict
Date: 22 Oct 05 - 05:10 PM

Maybe one key to this is the term "GIVE us a song." When it is a performance, skill and polish and ability matter a lot. When it is an informal circle, what matters is the song itself. Even as a non-performer I know it is a real joy to hand on a song to someone who has never heard it before.


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From: skarpi
Date: 22 Oct 05 - 05:52 PM

HAlló all , I am told that there´s a cap in the end of the song Calidonia on my cd? if so for those who will I send another one.
I am sorry about that I was told that everything was fine .

so sorry all.

All the best Skarpi Iceland.


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From: Bobert
Date: 22 Oct 05 - 06:08 PM

Well, I have just one thing more to say about shy folks... Maybe we need to have a "shy folks" workshop next Getaway???

And as fir KT and the blues... The girl got it in here, fir sure... Yeah, you oughtta hear her doin' the "Tastee Freeze Blues"... It make Bonnie Raitt burn her guitar and check into a nursin' home... Sho nuff would...

Just that "Tastee Freeze Blues" is jus' messin' 'round for KT... Well, all I can say si that she could use a little more messin' 'round top balance out her angelic singin'... But what would I know 'bout that... I play the "Devil's music", right????

Ahhhh, I ain't singin'bout no igloos 'er whale blubber, Amos, so if yer gonna be in the band, get that nasty stuff outta yer head...

Bobert


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From: Tinker
Date: 22 Oct 05 - 06:13 PM

Now KT I'm gonna send you a couple of CD's and perhaps we can round up a few women can get those boys to understand that there's some solid ground where we can sing sing blues together.... I got a couple of ideas of songs I think you'll enjoy...

tinker


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From: Naemanson
Date: 22 Oct 05 - 06:18 PM

Wakana and I got home on Friday after 19 hours on planes from the east coast. We are now seriously jet lagged and spend a lot of time sleeping.

Be that as it may be the Getaway was one hell of a way to end a three month trip. We arrived under a cloud, not quite fighting but not happy with each other. we left with goofy grins and happiness in our hearts. Wakana wants to go back again and I hope to as well. The idiot's mistake on Saturday afternoon is almost forgotten and the long talk with Rita made it all well.

I have read through half of the posts so far on this thread. I met so many of you that I have only previously known through the Mudcat pages. It was a nice sensation to read a person's name, then the post, picturing him/her as though s/he was talking directly in front of me. I could see the person, sitting at the keyboard and remember the twinkle of the eyes or the faint grin or the wrinkled nose as s/he typed. Thanks to all who made it so special.


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From: Peace
Date: 22 Oct 05 - 06:26 PM

"Peace - I really had hoped you'd be a surprise attendee. I would have loved to have met you and heard your music. Maybe next year?"

Thank you very very much for saying that, Jeri.


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From: InOBU
Date: 22 Oct 05 - 07:08 PM

Hey Scarp!
I'll have another listen, It was lovely to me! Caladonia is one of my fav's really brought tears to my eyes... great CD, ol' brother of Hagar... I will have to post more about it later
Ha Rollo! Off to the boats, Hmmmm who to plunder... Club Med anyone?

cheers ya ol viking you
lor


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From: Amos
Date: 22 Oct 05 - 07:57 PM

Bobert, me best bud, yer too late; ole KT is on her path to becoming the Blues Queen of the Tundra, and she'll teach you, come next Getaway, what a Juneau gal can do. If you've never heard a wolverine say grace, come prepared!! :D She already has the "Juneau Woman Blues" on her practice list and there are several more to come. Like the icebergs far to the North, you done started a meltdown, big brother, and you ain't heard the end of it yet!! LOL


A


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From: Jeri
Date: 22 Oct 05 - 08:14 PM

Peace, I'm jealous of the folks who got your recording, but I waited too long. I meant what I said though. I hope you'll think about next year. Know that unlike the crabfrest Mudcat is frequently, people at the Getaway get along and are supportive and welcoming. (Then we come home and have a crabfest on Mudcat. Haha) Anyway, I'll stop.


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From: Bobert
Date: 22 Oct 05 - 08:18 PM

Amos,

First of all, I'd jus' like to fess up to my envy fir, not only the quantity, but quality of drugs you folks have at yer disposal on the left coast...

With that said, I have no doubts that the foxy and talented KT could teach me a lotta stuff but the blues ain't one of them... Ya see, me and the Wes Ginny Slide Rule just got out the globe we bought at the 4-H yard sale and got to rollin' it 'round on the floor... Yeah, we used one of them cloth tape measurers that the tailers use and we discovered an alarmin' fact....


... ahhh, I's like an inch from Mississippi and KT is like, hmmmmmm, well over a foot... No, make that a foot and a half away from Mississippi...

What this means, in a nutshell (good term, Bobert) is that you is either nuts, stoned 'er both!!! Yup, even the Wes Ginny Slide Rule says so... Well, not exactly... The WGSL has it that yer chances of being nuts (40%) is less than bein' stoned (60%)... I had it the opposite, myself....

Bobert


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From: Amos
Date: 22 Oct 05 - 08:35 PM

I dunno, Bobert; sounds like regional bias. Why I learned it, the blues is in the shoes and socks of every human being, whether in Mississippi, Delaware, Alaska or South Dakota. All ya gotta do is slide on down and they'll meet you half way. Seems to me, by reason of this analytical premise, that a Blues Queen of the Tundra is just as surefire for singing the blues as ole Bessie her own self.

But I aint gonna say no more. Just in case you change your minds about the Sidewalk Bob and the Moto' Scooters thang... :D

Love ya, man!


A


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From: Peace
Date: 22 Oct 05 - 08:40 PM

Amos,

Get to work on a song entitled, "Lord T-Tundra Jesus."

If ya never lived on the tundra, ya jus' don't KNOW the meanin' of the blues.


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From: Bobert
Date: 22 Oct 05 - 08:51 PM

Well, Amos, this ain't 'bout no analytical stuff but the globe an's one proximity to Mississippi...l Okay, I gotta admit that there's some fine blues players in Norway that ain't exactly explainable but Alaska ain't Norway....

Like, ahhhh, I reads everything I can 'bout blues players and I never read nuthin' 'bout none from Alaska... Oh yeah, Ebbie, told me there was a blues player up there doin' them Igloo Blues stuff but she din't even know his name... Heck, he might not have even existed fir that matter...

Now lets get down to the down an' dirty here.... You obviously have heard KT sing... Right??? Well, I got news fir ya... She sings like the P-Vine sings.... Purdy, gol dangit... Now there's somethin' about gals that can sing purdy stuff: they is real good at it...

Ol' blues guys ain't into purdy 'cause we can't do it no more, er in most cases, never could...

But there's somethin about them purdy girls who sing purdy songs: they ain't into gettin' in the elevators from their penthouses and pushin' "O" fir outhouse on the elevator... Heck, I don't blame 'um one danged bit... If I had Vince Gill's voice, you think I'd be singin' the blues???

That's my take on it and I reckon that even if KT weer to spend the entire winter livin' in an igloo with a polar bear tryin' to get the blues that when she got to the next Getaway, she'd revert right back into being KT... Which, BTW, ain't all that bad a place to be, mind you...

But yeah, Amos, I know you leftie coasters can lay down some blues... Only 4 inches away from Mississippi...

Bobert


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From: Ebbie
Date: 22 Oct 05 - 09:12 PM

Ah, Beaubie, you're getting downright violent in your flailin' about. Whatta ya mean that I don't know the name of THE blues player in Alaska?


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From: Janie
Date: 22 Oct 05 - 09:23 PM

What are the blues?
The man wants to know
With Muddy Waters Wailin' on the radio,
"I AM the Blues!"
And boogies on down
As Van Ronk sings of a dirty side of town.

It's an ache in your loins
A knot in your gut
When suddenly you cryin' for some sorry old slut
Whose not so old, but incredibly real
Man, you don't know just how it can feel
To be poor, be black, be broke, be blue
Hey white boy-I'm talkin' to you!

Ah but you got a woman
Or you got your man
On a hot summer's night, on the river or strand
Jelly roll, belly roll, shake and rejoice
shout halaluyah
Baby now I come to ya'
Shake it on down now
Break it on down now
Satisfy, satisfy
Baby I can testify
I ain't never, no never been satisfied.


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From: Bobert
Date: 22 Oct 05 - 09:39 PM

Yeah, oaky, Ebbie... Yer right... You prolly know the name of the bluesguy in Alaaska... I must have forgotted it???... But then again, you folks in Alaska prolly know the nemaes of most of the "Laskains since there onl;y half a dopzen of folks up there, right???

(Bobert, Bobert, Bobert... You wanta end up in thje doghouse behind the igloo, keeep it up....)

Okay, I forgot the guys name...

Maybe I come up there in an airplane and do a little "Iced In Blues" and give the other guy a run fir his money...

(Bobert, Bobert, Bobert... The guy prolly kick yer butt from one igloo to the next...)

Nevermind this entitre post...

Bobert


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From: Janie
Date: 22 Oct 05 - 10:09 PM

Mick,

Thank you for your kind words. (Now, didn't I already mention, on another thread, about how he can still sweet-talk the colleens;>)

I think you know how I look forward to seeing you there also.

Annie,

No gardening, but I did spend the day keeping Ma company on shopping rounds. Earned myself a whole whoppin' bunch of points. And throbbing bunions. Yer right. I AM the crazy one.

KT--listen to yer buddy Amos, and don't let that skinny ol' fake hillbilly from Virginia of all places intimidate you. He may SOUND like the Blues. He may LOOK like the Blues. He may PLAY guitar like the Blues is his middle name. But...and this is a big but...he belongs to the national Azalea Society fer chrissake! He's got plans to run a B&B! Iff'n he can do the blues, baby, then so can you.

Sure you can. You go, Girl!

Janie


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From: Ebbie
Date: 22 Oct 05 - 10:43 PM

Oooooh, Janie! You're just askin' fer it. I don' think there's nothin' fake about the Bobert. He couldn't play that way if there were atall, atall. (Maybe, maybe he won't see your post.)

Iffen he does, how are your blues skills? Start practicin'.

Janie's singin' the blues, the deep down deep blue kind
Yeah, Janie's singin' the blue; it's about to blow her mind
Janie's singin' the blues- woo hoo hoo, she's singin' the blues
Have you heard the news? woo hoo hoo Janie has paid her dues...


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From: GUEST
Date: 22 Oct 05 - 10:47 PM

Janie ... LOL again!


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From: Janie
Date: 22 Oct 05 - 10:59 PM

Now Ebbie--I'm not sayin' his Blues is fake--just his hillbilly. And if a member of the National Azalea Society who is contemplating running a B&B in Natural Bridge, Va, can learn the blues--then so can a lovely singer-songwriter from Alaska--or New Zealand for that matter, which is a lot further than 12 inches from Mississippi on the globe.

Uhm--any blues players from New Zealand on the 'Cat? If so, please speak up..and speak loudly...Ebbie's got good instincts. I may be in trouble.]

No way. Know why? Cuz' Amos and KT are going to RULE with the igloo out on the tundra blues next time round.

KT? Amos? You guys do have my back, don'tcha?

Think I best beat a quick retreat to bed now.

Night Ebbie. Sweet dreams.

Janie


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From: GUEST,Dani
Date: 22 Oct 05 - 11:55 PM

Celtaddict, what you better do at the Getaway is whatever you want to do. If you are moved to sing a song, do it. If you aren't, sit back and be moved until you can't help singing!

But if there were such a thing as a 'real' musician, or a 'real' singer, people like me would still be hiding at home, WISHING they had more music in their lives, KNOWING there has to be something better than listening to CD's.

There will be real music in the world (or, in this country) when real people are making it. Everywhere!

Dani

PS: what Elena and Holly will be working on is the bodhran. You are in luck! ; )


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From: Amos
Date: 23 Oct 05 - 12:42 AM

Dear Gawd I have often prayed to be spared great conflict in mah life and such a one is now visited upon me. To be torn between the Flahr of the Singer Songwriter Chic Legion and the BEst Buddy Bluesman is plainly more than mah poor heart can bear, an' I can but ask that this cup be taken from me as I am divided in Luhuuuve as no man can bear to be.

A


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From: Ebbie
Date: 23 Oct 05 - 02:10 AM

When any decision is just too painful, for that moment just hang tough and don't make any. It is always possible that one or the other of them will make the decision for you. LOL

OK Janie, I understand now- I just had to make certain that you recognize the blue in Bobert's soul. (whisper: Did you know that he belongs to a couple other gardening clubs? Yes. I fear that our Beaubear travels in high flying circles when he thinks he can get away with it. tsk tsk)

By the way, I hope Big Mick reads these penitent words. I take back my claim for the position of #1 Adoring Fan of the AK Catter Known as KT. There is a category of adorism that doesn't qualify for ranking- as a couple of Juneauites made clear to me at last night's music. sniff But it was fun for awhile. Before I knew better. sniff


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From: skarpi
Date: 23 Oct 05 - 06:07 AM

Halló all , dear Dani , so there will be more bodhrán players next year
yahoooooooooo , thats good to hear,

I am hoping next year we can have a Workshop about Bodhrán songs.
Can´t wait.


All the best Skarpi Iceland,,,,


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From: Bobert
Date: 23 Oct 05 - 09:03 AM

Well, gol danged it...

Can't I even go to sleep at night fir fear that my good (or other) name gonna get all trashercated???

First of all, sniff, I would go out and join no Azalea Society all on my own... Sure, I like a gardenin' as much as the next guy, but these clubs is P-Vine's doings... I'm just the driver, and hole digger, the lawn cutter, the mulcher, the weeded the leaf raker, etc. in the P-Vine's little plan... But, if I do 'um all to her satisfaction I also get to play "lover boy" so, what the hey...

As fir bein' a "hillbilly", I reckon that's in the eyes of the behoder... Okay, I might not have been borned one but after livin' in mountain hollers for the pas' 21 years, I reckon if I ain't one then I sho nuff is qualified to apply fir my papers...

And, jus' to set the record straight... I wouldn't own no B&B fir nuthin'... Gotta getr out of bed too early fir that kinda business plus vacuumin' every day... No sir, er mame, ain't my dish of tea, thank you...

As fir the blues, I jus' do 'um to keep Bobby Goldsboro's song "Honey" outtt my head...

Them is my stories fir now and unless someone comes forth with piccures to disprove any of them then I'll stick wid 'um...

Bobert

Janie,

I had piccures of the new gardens I wanted to show ya but never got hooked up wid ya.... Next year we need a gardenin' workshop, fir sure...


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From: Janie
Date: 23 Oct 05 - 09:12 AM

Indeed, Ebbie, Bobert's blues are the real deal. Visceral.

The kind of blues that, when you listen to him, snake down into your own gut. Heat and humidity. Sweat labor. Sweat love.

No doubt about it. The real deal.

Janie


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From: Janie
Date: 23 Oct 05 - 09:32 AM

I dunno Bobert. I was born a hillbilly--coal miner, railroad, dirt farmer hillbilly. Got West Virginia, eatern Kentucky and southwest Virginia hillbilly genes. Why--I got old Regular Baptist genes. We are a pretty exclusive club. Now--I've known ferners from New York or New Jersey to move in and stay for 30 year or more, and the best of 'em only get honorary membership. We'll have to inspect that application pretty carefully.

But yessir--azaleas or no--you be a bonafide bluesman.

Janie


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From: Janie
Date: 23 Oct 05 - 09:35 AM

Now don't me wrong, folks.

Some of my best friends are from New Jersey!

(luv ya' Dani heart sister o'mine)

Janie


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From: Amos
Date: 23 Oct 05 - 09:56 AM

One side effect of this still-vivid weekend has been to bring scores of songs to the front of my mental jukebox which haven't seen the light of day in a while. I'll be minding my own business and all at once find myself singing "Who's Gonna Shoe Yer Pretty Little Foot" or "Lord Lovell". I appreciate that -- it's like turning mulch to keep it lively.

A


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Janie
Date: 23 Oct 05 - 10:15 AM

Thanks for reeling the thread back to topic, Amos.

Janie


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Bobert
Date: 23 Oct 05 - 10:24 AM

An' I sho nuff had me a deja vu moment crankin' up an old John Prine song, "Paradise" that I hadn't played in a a couple hunner years... Maybe I'll dust off a few more oldies fir next year...

Bobert


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: JudyB
Date: 23 Oct 05 - 12:48 PM

Some thoughts after reading through the posts from the last couple of days. I'm not usually all that shy, but I'm definitely an introvert - and for me one of the best explanations of the difference between introverts and extroverts is that introverts need solitude and quiet time to renew their strength, while extroverts need people and activity to renew their strength (the definition may not work for everyone, but immediately rang true for me).

If I go to something like the Getaway (and I'm hoping it will work out next year!), I occasionally need to step back for 20 minutes or so and wander around looking at scenery or whatever with minimal human interaction, just to recharge my internal batteries.

Of course, leading a song like "Roll the Old Chariot" and riding over the chorus is a mighty powerful feeling, too. But I also need my space now and then.

And the other thing I've learned is that I'm slow to learn names and to match names to faces, and I don't always recognize people if they change their hairdo or put on/take off the hat they've been wearing. So if I had a nice chat with you yesterday, and you come up to me today and I have a momentary blank look while I try to focus on your name badge, it's not that I didn't enjoy the conversation or am trying to avoid you - it's that I was focusing on the conversation and not on what you looked like - so if you're looking a bit different this morning (or no longer wearing the bright blue shirt I latched on to as an internal cue), I might not immediately recognize you.

Some of the folks I work with could tell you what shoes I wore with the blue suit last Wednesday - half the time I couldn't tell you what color outfit the person I spoke to 10 minutes ago was wearing - but I could explain in detail what problem they were having with their computer or what sort of report they needed me to generate!

I'm not suggesting that these are positive traits - I'm quite aware that I function better in social settings when I can remember people's names and faces. But it doesn't come naturally to me, and when I'm meeting too many people all at once, what ability I've developed in that area tends to break down totally.

Having said all that, I think I should also say that I do enjoy the song circles we go to, I've had a wonderful time at the music gatherings we've attended in other parts of the country (and the world), and I've very sure I'll enjoy the Getaway. I love hearing new songs, and getting a chance to meet new people and learn more about them. And I enjoy occasionally sharing a song that I think other people might enjoy, though I'm not a terribly strong singer.

See you next year!
JudyB


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Celtaddict
Date: 23 Oct 05 - 12:58 PM

And Skarpi, your CD is beautiful. Thank you.


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Allan C.
Date: 23 Oct 05 - 01:09 PM

JudyB, clearly I know what you mean about remembering names. I've definitely got more work to do on my filing system. (Apologies to Maria here.) I once was a store detective. When it got time to fill out the paperwork on someone I had caught, well, thank goodness I usually had the person on video tape. Otherwise I would never have been able to describe them or even the clothing they wore.

Knowing my nominal disability, I was totally amazed when leading an ingreasingly large, late night song circle at the former Mudcabin a couple of years ago and was somehow able to call each person in turn by name. Perhaps having had more than a few encounters with George Dickel might have had something to do with it. Dunno. I thought that usually impared recall.


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Amos
Date: 23 Oct 05 - 01:29 PM

Skarpi, I have finally gotten a chance top put your CD on and I just love it. Makes me wish I spoke Icelandic!!

A


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Ebbie
Date: 23 Oct 05 - 01:56 PM

I once heard a police investigator explain a way in which they are different from the common people. He said, 'You notice how much the person has changed. We are trained to take note of how many things are still the same.'

People's appearances tend to become a blur to me. I would never be any good viewing a police lineup, but if I had a chance to talk with the person as I'd had before it might all come back, complete with the name, kind of like accessing a file.

I've noticed that even in looking at Lorcan's photos (in the Photopage Flickr thread) I'm not sure of the identity of some of the static images. As you'll notice I got several people wrong. My apologies.

There were many memorable people at the Getaway that I haven't mentioned, people I enjoyed very much. CatsPHiddle, for instance- a most memorable one. She has a spirit that smacks me in the heart and is beautiful besides; overall she is a grand presence. I love to watch her and Micca together. (My notion is that if we could but see into past lives we would find connections that go WAY back.)

And Micca. What can one say. This year I decided he is more "normal" than I thought last year! No offense, Micca, either way you are fascinating. And a softie too. I have never heard a purtier love song than he accomplished on stage. ;)

I enjoyed the Sunday evening songfest (and I got some good songs taped; among others, Slowing Down for Lethargy is great) but I did miss last year's more intimate gathering in the TV room. I was looking forward to hearing Karen K lead 'This Time Again'. I never got to hear her at all this year.

I enjoyed talking with Rumanci, although I didn't get to hear her sing. Hearing and watching LeadFingers was a trip. I loved meeting and hearing the very talented A MOSS (Ask Chance and Micca, Amos) I would love to know Mmario better and also hear more songs from him. And Gutbucketeer - that man is far more gifted than he realizes. Charley Noble is a treasure. So many, many more. If I didn't name YOU, just accept that you are cradled in my heart.My cabin roommates were wonderful. I liked the ambiance of connection (There's that word again).

And thanks to Annie, I got to play her 0000 Martin- never even saw one of those before. Annie is an excellent fiddler and I would have loved to play longer. (On the other hand, that is when I missed the Bobert's mini concert. sniff)


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Ferrara
Date: 23 Oct 05 - 02:04 PM

Can anyone tell me about some of the highlights of the Helen Schneyer workshop? I always have the choice of hearing some late night singing or getting to lots of workshops, and this year I got caught up in the late night stuff, then wore out around 11 am both days, slept through lunch and much of the afternoons. Sigh.... Choices choices.


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Charley Noble
Date: 23 Oct 05 - 03:23 PM

I'll probably be posting a number of queries with regard to workshops I recorded. Sorting through my recordings is no easy task, made more difficult because I did not fully understand how to properly end each recording session on my new recording device. Unfortunately when one does not end a session properly some cannibilism ensues...

My question has to do with the Songwriters Showcase, Sunday morning. Who was the woman who led her brilliant Appalachian "Progression" song, where the "love" is first described as a "blue bird" and finally as a "dead cat in the road"?

Rita or CharlieB - do either of you still have a copy of the Saturday and Sunday evening concert sign-up sheets. I would find it very helpful in identifying who is leading the songs.

Cheerily,
Charley Noble


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Charlie Baum
Date: 23 Oct 05 - 03:29 PM

The Saturday and Sunday evening concerts are logged in on this thread. I've now got a complete list as to who performed on each night, and who were the back-up musicians.

--Charlie Baum


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Charlie Baum
Date: 23 Oct 05 - 03:37 PM

The Helen Schneyer workshop featured a lot of people singing the songs she gave us. I did "Fountain Filled with Blood"--and it felt like I was channelling Helen while I was singing it. I also remember having a blast singing complementary bass lines with Tom Tucker on "Keep Your Lamp Trimmed and Burning." Dan Schatz did another one of her miners songs Helen's hideobilia was not forgotten--Nancy King sang "The Nurse Pinched the Baby." Afterward, I was able to tell her about Dr. Diocletian Lewis ("dear old Doctor Di-o:').

--Charlie Baum


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Charlie Baum
Date: 23 Oct 05 - 03:44 PM

It's good to find out complaints about the food and other problems here, because we'll be planning next year's Getaway soon enough, and we need to learn from our shortcomings.

We're going to need to figure out how to fit into the new camp. The last few years, we had about 120 attendees at the Gertaway, and the new camp has 101 lower bunks and 101 upper bunks. No problem fitting 120 people into that, but this year, we ballooned to more than 170 attendees, so we'll have to pack ourselves carefully into exactly 50 rooms next year.

--Charlie Baum


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 23 Oct 05 - 04:03 PM

ColK is lying on the couch about 8 feet away from me snoring, so if I make it next year can I be somewhere far away from him ;-)
Giok


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: skarpi
Date: 23 Oct 05 - 04:05 PM

Well hmmm tent and camp not bad but taking the tent all the way from home ?
já er það ekki bara ,

we´ll see , women on the top and men under , no proplem
                        bunks

all the best Skarpi Iceland.
Amos I ´ll teach you som e Icelandic .........er thad ekki bara


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From: Celtaddict
Date: 23 Oct 05 - 04:55 PM

Skarpi, I am still entranced with the wonderful Icelandic word you gave me, and its use:
Gullfiskaminni
This, for you who have not come across it (which is probably everyone except Skarpi) refers to those memories that flash into your brain and are out again before you can properly grasp them. Names. The words to the next verse. The song you meant to ask for. The key you usually play it in, the source from whom you learned it, where you left your capo. . . .





It means "goldfish memory."


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From: Peace
Date: 23 Oct 05 - 05:00 PM

"where you left your capo. . . ."

Used to carry mine in one of the loops on my pants--part the belt goes through. Made the capo hard to lose.


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From: Celtaddict
Date: 23 Oct 05 - 05:01 PM

Charlie, I would not worry too deeply over the food issues, I think whoever made the observation is correct; complaining about the food is part of the ritual of any camp, school, hospital. The idea of taking kitchen turns is appealing, but if that is not an option at the new camp, as long as there is a salad bar and something very basic at each meal, I don't suppose it matters a lot to people who are there for the music and the people.
The bunks could be an issue though; I expect you will need to have a way for those who cannot readily climb into a top one to indicate so at registration. There is a pretty broad range of ages, weights, and levels of physical ability. Also, if one is sleeping in a bottom bunk and a late arrival climbs in above one, there is no way one can sleep through that. So this overweight gimpy-kneed all-nighter could be one of your challenges!


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From: KT
Date: 23 Oct 05 - 05:15 PM

Dear friends, 

It's hard to believe that only a week ago our gathering was drawing to a close. The memories I have of the weekend are so many and so rich. I know I won't be able to get them all down here right now, but I've got to share a few for starters. Just a few snippets of what is filling my heart these days as I recall our lovely time together......

Seeing Chance and Micca drive into the lot of our hotel was the promise of a weekend of joy and laughter. And both began immediately!!

Hearing Chance and Suzette and TJ and Julie singing and responding to one another. Their love of music and one another is so evident that it is pure joy to behold. 

Dottie's beautiful song and her insistance that we get it right!! (I don't think I ever did, Dottie. Can I have a make up class?)

Ron Davies' deep, rich viola playing,  which is like being wrapped in a warm comforter. Same goes for his voice, when he does those wonderful harmonies.

Seeing Pauline and having a little more time to connect with her than I had last year. We still didn't get those fiddles out, and that is something for me to look forward to next year.

The drive with the amazing Bobert. Did y'all know he is multi-talented? Not only is he blues man extraordinaire, and human mic stand, but he can also drive through long tunnels with a bag over his head!

Greeting  Kendall and Jacqui within the first 2 minutes of our arrival, and having the privilege of spending many more precious moments with these two lovely people throughout the weekend. Jacqui, I'm wrapped in the most beautiful shawl as I write. Feels like a hug! Thank you again! And hearing Jacqui sing! Wonderful!

 Pickin' with Kendall.......even though it was short and sweet.  What was it you called the thing that happened at that one session?   Thanks again, so very much, to you and Jacqui for loaning that amazing Taylor ! 

Meeting Amos for the first time, hearing his wonderful voice and guitar playing, watching as everyone responded with delight to the man they've come to know here. And listening to my recording of bits of the gospel session on the plane on the way home and hearing Amos' voice singing along on it. 

Recording Jeri singing "When I Go" on the back veranda, and having a lovely chat with her. I LOVE it Jeri, and you will too, when I get a copy to you. 

Seeing Dani with her daughters  Holly and Elena. I'm so glad they enjoyed it!  Watching the room light up when Dani enters. 

Meeting Vanessa (Mrs. El Grecko) and seeing her warm, loving  smile every time I ran into her during the weekend. 

Just being with Micca and Catsphiddle. Hearing Micca sing and tell his stories and Catsphiddle's rendition of (what's the name of that song, khatt? The one I kept asking you for....you know, the" tomorrow we'll be sober" one....I loved watching you do that one!)

THE PUB SING!!!  WOW! There was such joy and camaraderie there. Is that an accurate representation of how it is in the pubs over there?  It really made me want to go!! And I intend to.

Meeting and hearing the multi-talented Leadfingers!!  

Seeing the father of Mudcat, MAX!!

And Teresa!! Wow!   Small, but mighty!!!   What a powerful voice!!

Any time spent in the presence of SINSULL!  In her I see a combination of wise old soul and imp. Always fun and full of laughter!! 

Putting faces at last, to the names I've seen here for so long, like Skipjack, Celtaddict, Barry, Mary, Ranger1, Sussex Carole, Gioc and INOBU! Meeting Sorcha and Currmugeon and Bat Goddess and Tannywheeler,and Carol C and Jack the Sailor and Naemenson and Wakana and Julie ! And former Pedestrian partner Lonesome EJ .....And Charley Noble and Jimmyt and the Ducks!!  And ColK!!!!!!!!!!!  

Seeing Karenk (though I too, would love to have heard her sing and would love a copy of her singing "This Time Again") and momnopp and Gary and Cheryl and Dick and Susan and Dave Diamond and Lucy and Janet and Edmund and Charmion and Dean and Sam and Linda and Nancy and the Schatz's and Janet and Fred and Allan and Judy and Dennis and Gutbucketeer and Darriel and mmario and Janice and Carmen and all of those other wonderful folks whose names escape me at the moment. (please forgive me)  deep breath......Raising my voice with all of those folks, known and unknown in joyful chorus!  WOW!

Being a cabin mate with the wonderful, warm-hearted Tinker. And Janie, who can sing those gospel songs like I've never heard before!!  Wish I'd had more time to sing with them and Annie. Next year, for sure!

Singing and playing with David Sheim. That harp is a real heart opener. He can play just about anything on it and touch one's very soul in the process. What joy to play in the sun, accompanied by the gentle breeze and dancing leaves.

Riding with Carly in the car(ly) workshop from Ramblewood to DC. That girl makes you feel like you've been friends for ages within the first 3 and a half seconds of meeting her!

A wonderful conversation with Skarpi...talk about heart-warming. What a treat to meet this gentle and very wise soul. And hearing his beautiful songs which brought tears to my eyes. 

Hearing El Greko sing again. What a delight to hear so many people singing along on his now-familiar songs. (Guess I'm not the only one who listens to him in the car on the way to work!)

Charlie Baum, a most gracious and wonderful MC. But I didn't get to hear you sing this year!

Bill D., whose delight in the music and the folks is evidenced by his dancing self! And Rita with those beautiful,shining eyes.

Sharing the whole experience with Ebbie, who delights in all of you as much as I do.

Seeing Big Mick again and watching him greet everyone with such love and joy! Forever grateful, Mick, for you are indeed the person who first told me about the Getaway!

Throughout the whole weekend, I was eye-witness to such generosity.........Seems Beardedbruce was always offering gifts to others, not the least of which were massive quantities of ginger and good brew.

 I witnessed lots of other tangible items changing hands, but the generosity of spirit in music and support was pervasive and oh, so heart-warming!  

It was my privilege to make music, have a chat or just be in the presence of so many fine folk. Deep thanks to all of you Getaway campers,  for a most memorable weekend. I am changed and grateful for having spent the weekend with you. What we have experienced here is gift beyond description, and will be cherished by me forever. 

KT


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: GUEST
Date: 23 Oct 05 - 05:22 PM


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From: KT
Date: 23 Oct 05 - 05:24 PM

Tinker, You're on! I'd love to sing with you, even if it has to be the blues!!!

Goldfish memory...I love it!!

KT


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From: skarpi
Date: 23 Oct 05 - 05:40 PM

Sniff...... there´s a tears in my beer..........



oh my feelings......


I kind a miss you all , I wish I was not so far way from most of you .
Is it me or is it the age , that make´s me have tears rolling down
from my eyes once in a while? Or is my soul wounded?why do i cry?

Maybe it´s that joy I had when I met all of you wanderful people
who came to the Getaway, and the joy of meeting you all again next year .


Tears , heart and soul.................

Now some practise and then to sleep , gonna meet up with my dear friend Rósa tomorrow and do some music with her got concerts comin up soon .

Good night all and god bless you all

KT , you are along the others a good person , and I´ll thank you again

From cold and windy Iceland brrrrrrrr    skarpi Iceland,


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: GUEST,Dani
Date: 23 Oct 05 - 05:47 PM

I THOUGHT there were more people there this year. That explains why I/we couldn't fit in the time we thought we could singing with everyone we wanted to.

And, a thank you again to Bruce for the ginger. I took some to work last night to share, and more thanks were sent your way from all who enjoyed.

Charlie, could you tell us the tune you sang Rudolph to at the Sunday night sing? I can't get it in my head, but it sure hurt laughing then..... I LOVE your singing, and wish I'd heard more.

Dani


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From: GUEST,Giok
Date: 23 Oct 05 - 05:53 PM

It still seems a bit unreal, all those lovely people I met, and the kind words and the warm welcomes. A couple of people were kind enough to say they enjoyed some of my posts, and that is so encouraging, sometimes I post something that I think will either get them rolling in the aisles or spitting feathers, and it gets no reaction, so it is nice to know that some folks enjoy it. I didn't chat much with KT but every bloke I've spoken to since seems to have fallen in love with her, and I can see why.
Anyway we're off to the pubs and dens of Portland Maine see y'all later.
Giok


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Dani
Date: 23 Oct 05 - 05:54 PM

Skarpi, there's an American country song with one of my favorite lines:

"I've got tears in my ears

as I lie on my back

in my bed while I cry over you"

You are missed as well. Keep making your good music, and look forward to next year. How good to have this mudcat to keep the flame going 'til then!

Dani


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Ebbie
Date: 23 Oct 05 - 05:56 PM

KT, I don't want to hurt his feelings so I kind of hope the Bobert doesn't read this: It made me a little nervous when he drove through the tunnel the entire way with that bag over his head, no holes, no nuttin'. I had thought that he would remove it from time to time but nooooooo...and that's a l o n g tunnel. Did it bother you too? I guess people on the East Coast do things differently from what we do on the Western edge.

:)


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From: skarpi
Date: 23 Oct 05 - 05:59 PM

Oh men .......... i would love to hear that song , will you sing it for me at the Getaway next year?
All the best Skarpi Iceland.


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From: Celtaddict
Date: 23 Oct 05 - 06:06 PM

Skarpi, I have a friend who is a master of the typo that is better than the original word. I have saved some of them over the years. In writing about an amazing songwriter, he commented "Bogles the imagination," which might have been my favorite bonaprop up until now.
But referring to the Gateway crowd as "wanderful people" is my absolute favorite!!!


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: KT
Date: 23 Oct 05 - 06:09 PM

Giok, for the record, I love your posts too!

Wall, I don't hardly know what to say 'bout fallin' in love, 'cept that my problem is, I've fallin' in love with the whole LOT of you, blokes and gals, alike!! Not too bad a problem to have, I guess!!

Ebbie, nervous???? Gits me quakin' jes thinkin' 'bout that drive through the tunnel!!

KT


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Amos
Date: 23 Oct 05 - 06:15 PM

ALl too wanderful...they wander into your heart and your life and wander off again!! Wonderful wandering though!


A


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Bobert
Date: 23 Oct 05 - 06:57 PM

KT and Ebbie,

Okay, next year I'll let one of you drive thru the tunnel... I don't like 'um so I figgure the best way to deal with gettin' thru 'um is the bag... Hey, it worked, din't it???

Womenz?!?!? Can't live with 'um and can't shoot 'um either...

Maybe if I had a colorful "shopping" bag over my head they wouldn't be puttin' in no complaints... Must be embarrasssin' to be a womanz and havin' yer driver with a grocery bag over his head...

Won't bother me at all... Like I said (or din't), it's a womenz thing...

Bobert


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From: Ebbie
Date: 23 Oct 05 - 07:21 PM

You're prolly right, Beaubear. I would have been MUCH less nervous if I'd thought that you had an actual sense of fashion in your head wear. Next year I'll bring a spiffy bag for you, one you will be proud to be seen in and one that will cause me so much less embarrassment, not to say, fear. (Did I just commit myself to bring TWO bags? Or is that THREE?)

I must say, however, that you drive VERY well. I was so impressed.


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: kendall
Date: 23 Oct 05 - 07:27 PM

Just for the record, I didn't fall in love with KT this year.... that was LAST year.


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From: Ebbie
Date: 23 Oct 05 - 07:28 PM

I wasn't going to mention how startled I was when you leapt us over the two cars in front of us. I have to admit it worked in the sense of that it got us out of what may have become a traffic jam- but the other Getawayers behind us may have felt just a touch of bewilderment as to why they were stuck so long. But hey. Consider it not mentioned.


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From: Bobert
Date: 23 Oct 05 - 07:37 PM

Thanks fir not mentionin' it, Eb, seein'as (or not) I don't recall such an innovative move... Must have still had the bag on my head...

As fir fallin' in love, heck, I think Iz fallen' fir just 'bout everyone I've met at the Getaway...

BTW, did anyone know that I ended up sharin' a cabin with Claymore???

Yeah, okay, me and Clay had a few problems a wile back but then, sniff, I went to see him at the VA hospiotal after his heart attack and found hims to be a real likable guy...

Same thing happened with beardedbruce this time 'round...

Sniff...

Bobert


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From: KT
Date: 23 Oct 05 - 08:44 PM

Aw, Kendall.......

sniff....we're all catchin' the sniffles from you, Bobert! Actually, as I told miss Ebbie, I used to think that sniff was , well, you know, what a varmint does. Sniff sniff.


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Janie
Date: 23 Oct 05 - 10:24 PM

Isn't it just so amazing how we carry this event and all the people there so vividly in our hearts and minds. I just drove 6 hours back from West Virginia (the trees are turning--so beautiful) replaying songs, harmonies, smiles, images through my head. Big ol' silly grin of happiness on my face most of the way. Annie or lor posted a photo of Bret and Tinker in conversation--their postures ad expressions just seem to convey so much the tone--the ambience of the Getaway.

Annie--you have posted wonderful portraits of people with their voices lifted in song that really capture the spirit of the Gospel and Pub sings.

What a blessed wonderment. Thank you to one and all.

Janie


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Charlie Baum
Date: 23 Oct 05 - 10:34 PM

I sang Rudolph the Red Nose Reindeer to the tune of Villulia (56b in the Sacred Harp), tune written by (or attributed to) by J.M. Day, 1850.

(MP3 of tune here.) Singing "Rudolph" to this tune was first reported to me as an event at a "Dirge Night" held by Norumbega Harmony in the Boston area, so that makes it an actual folk song collected in Massachusetts.

--Charlie Baum


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From: Dani
Date: 23 Oct 05 - 11:02 PM

Thanks, Charlie! Very cool to have that link.

I like it better when you do it, though ; )

Plus, when you sang it the tune seemed SO familiar. There's something so primal and lovely about almost everything you sing.

Dani


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Max
Date: 23 Oct 05 - 11:51 PM

Wow, what great folks. I'm humbled by the quality of persons that I am lucky enough to have met over the years because of The Mudcat & FSGW. Thank you all.

We all had one hell of a time, but boy oh boy is that a lot of stuff packed into a very little time. Always seems like too much and yet never enough. Been trying to solve that little problem for years.

The post-show was a joy for me, thank you all for coming, though I'm not sure my band was worthy to share the stage with you all that made it. I was certainly also a pleasure to share my home with some of you as well. Had way too much fun. See you soon, and thank you.


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Pauline L
Date: 24 Oct 05 - 03:35 AM

I would be remiss if I didn't say thank you to Ferrara (Rita), Nancy King, Carly Gewirz, Charlie Baum, momnopp (JudyO), Dennis and Judy Cook, and anyone else who helped make the Getaway possible.

Thanks to Bearded Bruce for the candied ginger and the variety of chocolates. BB, you are the soul of generosity.

Thanks to Dick Greenhaus and Susan Friedman (sp?) for handling the complex task of getting rainbows of Mudcat T-shirts in various sizes. Those of us who wore them were very well dressed.

I was humbled by the unusually good musicians (instrumentalists) and thrilled that I had the chance to play with them. This year's Getaway had the best collection of instrumentalists of any Getaway I've attended.

This was my first time to jam with someone on the Uillean pipes -- thank you, Lorcan. (My apologies for any misspellings.)

It was also my first time to hear Icelandic music, which I loved immediately -- thank you Skarpi.

I had such a good time sitting on the porch of the white house and jamming with Sorcha on the fiddle, Carol (?) on her new flute, and Andrew on the squeezebox. Andrew started by saying that he hoped that we could find some tunes that all of us knew. We sure did, and we learned more tunes from each other quickly.   

There was an unusually large group of people who played various squeezeboxes, and they all played them so well.

Leadfingers is the opposite of what that name implies. Maybe he should change it to Quicksilver Fingers. He plays so many instruments *so well.* I never would have believed that the whistle could be used as a blues instrument, but he did it.

I was really impressed with the informal accordion lesson given by Greg and George to Carol C. She has not found an accordian player who could be her teacher where she lives, and she has learned how to play accordion by getting teaching sessions at Getaways and exchanging emails and tapes with the people who have helped her. Her husband is actively helping her learn. Teaching music is giving one of the greatest gifts, and Mudcatters have done an outstanding job.

I loved meeting so many Mudcatters that I had previously known only online. I was not happy, though, that I had to learn two names for many of them. That's a real challenge to my memory.

It's always good to see MMario, talk with him, and hug him. Wow!

Playing music with Big Mick, Claymore, Keith, Lorcan, Greg, Dick Greenhaus, Lucy, David, and others whose names I don't remember -- that was the biggest thrill of the weekend for me.

I learned so much about all kinds of things from Charlie Baum by sitting near him at meals.

I set a new record for myself by staying up and jamming until 4:30 AM Saturday. I couldn't help it. The musicians I played with were so very good. You never know in advance who will be there, what instruments they play, or what style of music they play. These are musicians who play outside the box. Then everything comes together as we catch on to each other through music. It's awesome. Jamming is one of the biggest highs for me.

One of my students, who is eight years old, recently told her mother that when she plays, magic comes out of her violin. I couldn't express the thought any better.


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Skipjack K8
Date: 24 Oct 05 - 08:49 AM

Bless you, Pauline, and likewise, it was great to jam with you. Was it your fiddle I borrowed late on Friday night? Drink had been taken, and my memories are a little fuddled, but it was a lovely balance of instruments all weekend. I particularly enjoyed playing with David on that harp.


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: rumanci
Date: 24 Oct 05 - 09:13 AM

Back home again us four after some memorable wanderings through six (?) states having met, listened to, shared music and smiled with some fascinating people along the way and some amazing sights most of them just locked into my mind now
I'm not really going to use this thread in its proper way to reflect on the Getaway just yet (maybe later I can put some of those special musical and other memories into a proper perspective) except to say that I enjoyed every minute of it.

Instead, may I just say a huge thankyou to

:- the company I was with the whole trip - (you are "great guys" Carole, Theresa and Andrew) and the organising of ME....lol
:- the generous hospitality received while meandering about and the stories shared of their local places which brought them so much to life for me
:- the FSGW for all their hard work, visible and invisible, and their wonderful welcomes
:- for old Mudcatter friends staying entirely their on-line selves
:- for new friends met
:- for the music.............just WOW !
:- for that one mind-blowingly incongruous visual image of tall ships in front of high-rise blocks in New York Harbour :-D

It doesn't seem real to have gone, been there, or be back but the memories are just magical

Thank you sincerely one and all

rum x


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Tinker
Date: 24 Oct 05 - 11:23 AM

A few added photos

Okay I've reached my storage limit for the month, but I got close to a dozen more posted. Wish I took more.

Waiting for Bill's 140 odd.

Now if I could figure out how to add them to Lorcan's....


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Maryrrf
Date: 24 Oct 05 - 08:39 PM

I check in every day just to relive the Getaway. That has been the most fun I've had for a long time. I still feel the glow. It always amazes me how nourishing and healing music and companionship can be.


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Ebbie
Date: 24 Oct 05 - 08:45 PM

Maryrrf, I'm getting a direct hit every day. I'm in the process of editing the hours of recording I did, and for me it's a long process. But at least I get to hear each song and tune over and over again- and that's lovely.

I have 6 new CDs that I got at the Getaway and haven't even unwrapped a one yet. Just think what lies ahead!


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From: Celtaddict
Date: 24 Oct 05 - 09:47 PM

Enjoy them! I seem to have wound up with about 45 (every now and then I find another, and some are two CD sets) so my commute will be great! I really do look forward to live recordings though from the actual event.


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Bill D
Date: 24 Oct 05 - 10:36 PM

yes, yes, Ms. Tinker....workin'on it. I may have to put them in 3 different places....we shall see.

(we had guests and other company until Sat, and I had my flu shot yesterday and don't feel so good today......lessee, I need at least two more excuses...hmmmm...(1)'was cold'....(2)'senior moments')


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Ken Schatz
Date: 24 Oct 05 - 11:33 PM

Thank you all, especially Mom & Co., for a splendid weekend, and for this thread, which refreshes the soul almost as well.

Such a privilege always to sing with Barry (great to meet you, Justine!) and Theresa - more!

Ken


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Pauline L
Date: 25 Oct 05 - 12:26 AM

I finally uploaded my Getaway photos onto my own Flickr site, but I already have three sets there, and they won't let me make another set. In the past I got around this by taking out another flickr account under a pseudonym, but they won't let me do that again. Neither will they let me remove one of my existing sets or de-set-ize some of my currently posted photos. Would someone please tell me how to post my Getaway photos on the group flickr site for the Getaway?

Much obliged.


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Pauline L
Date: 25 Oct 05 - 02:29 AM

Skipjack K8, you played my fiddle beautifully on Friday night. I was especially impressed because fiddle is not your primary instrument, and you've only been playing it for three years. Is this true, or did the alcohol make you say that?


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Skipjack K8
Date: 25 Oct 05 - 04:42 AM

Pauline, it was an outrageous boast, and I doubt the noise was beautiful at all! On careful reflection, it was spring 2001 that I locked myself into my bedroom with a Folkworks session CD and a cake of rosin (talent substitute). After an uncomfortable experience where my hand got glued to the bow in a rosin abuse incident, I emerged from the room some three hours later with a passable Peg Ryan's. This experience was made possible by Bill Sables, who lent me a green violin that was coachbolted to his wall.

Fiddle tuning was a revelation to me, so much more logical than the guitar that I struggled with for so many years, and it of course unlocked the mandolin, banjo, bouzuki, cittern etc, and the most recent advantage is dropping guitar tuning to DAGDAE, which I am having heaps of fun with.


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: mooman
Date: 25 Oct 05 - 05:12 AM

Pauline... have you had your ears de-waxed lately?

Actually, he's not bad at all on the fiddle is he, the lad, and he has regularly abused my mandolas and guitars with his aerophone-contaminated paws. I regret not having been there to join in the fun! Next time I hope!

Peace

moo


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From: Jeri
Date: 25 Oct 05 - 09:11 AM

Oh man of moo
Where were you?
You know you could have been here too... oh never mind.

I've got a photo in my camera of Kendall demonstrating his lobster-hypnotizing techniques on a Beanie™ lobster. This came after Colleen Cleveland revealed she could hypnotize chickens. I'm only any good with inanimate objects. I don't have a Flikr account though.


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Tinker
Date: 25 Oct 05 - 12:03 PM

Pauline I just figured my own out. Step one join the Mudcat group. Go to the Mudcat page and click on add this group. Step to go back to your own pictures and click on each one you want to add to the group. Over the top of the pictures are a bunch of icons. One says add this photo to group. When you click on it it will list out groups you belong to. Click on Mudcat and the photo will now be in both places. If there is a way to move whole sets I can't see it.

tinker


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From: MMario
Date: 25 Oct 05 - 12:10 PM

Spent last weekend with a different bunch of musical friends (and promised to meet them next spring at NEFFA) which not only made me remember Getaway but expound on it to them - and wish they could experience it!


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From: Leadfingers
Date: 25 Oct 05 - 12:32 PM

Next thing is to get a few of you transponders over this side for Loughstock Four Score in February !!


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: skarpi
Date: 25 Oct 05 - 03:23 PM

Wish I coult do that but I can´t , not if I am be able to be
In Cork?
All the best Skarpi Iceland.


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Pauline L
Date: 25 Oct 05 - 08:25 PM

Tinker, thanks for your instructions. My photos are now on the Flickr Mudcat photo pool. I've added names of most of the people, but I'd appreciate some help with the others' names. Also, I apologize for any mistakes I've made in names or spellings. I've posted under the pseudonym Julia_Longwing (name of a species of butterfly) to get around the limits Flickr placed on me.

I'm enjoying everyone else's photos, and I hope you enjoy mine.


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From: Bill D
Date: 25 Oct 05 - 08:28 PM

about those pics: as some of you know, I have touted the Opera browser a lot....now it has become free, and as a bonus, I found that they give you free space to post images.

"How many pictures can I upload?
As many as you want. Each user has a disk quota limit of 300MB, so go crazy."

I have 23 MB of Getaway 2005, so I guess I will try it there!


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Charley Noble
Date: 25 Oct 05 - 08:47 PM

Pauline L-

Some very nice images. I especially like the ones where people are leading songs. But I'm also fond of the one with me cradling a bottle of beer.

Cheerily,
Charley Noble


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: KT
Date: 25 Oct 05 - 08:47 PM

Great photos, Pauline. You've a keen eye for photography! Thanks for posting them. I've got some too, that I'll have to post. Jeff said we could send some to him here, too, but that it might take a while to get them up.
KT


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Amos
Date: 25 Oct 05 - 09:20 PM

Great job, Pauline!!


A


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From: Bill D
Date: 25 Oct 05 - 09:40 PM

very nice pics, Pauline! (soft sell is all we need..*grin*)


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Maryrrf
Date: 25 Oct 05 - 09:58 PM

What's this thing in the UK? I get over there sometimes - but February sounds kind of dreary. I vaguely remember some kind of thread about it. I'll do a search.


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Nancy King
Date: 25 Oct 05 - 10:36 PM

Great pix, Pauline! Thanks!


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From: Ferrara
Date: 25 Oct 05 - 11:53 PM

Wahhhhh!!!! Don't know what's wrong but right now I can only access the thumbnails of the photos that Pauline put up. They look wonderful, Pauline, I can hardly wait to see them! Talk about a teaser! I can only hope that whatever is slowing down my system will get fixed quickly! (Can hardly get Mudcat, either, I'm walking away from the computer and working on my woodburning while I wait, every time I click on a new link.)


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From: Jeri
Date: 25 Oct 05 - 11:59 PM

Perhaps I can send mine to Jeff if I can get them off the data card tomorrow. I was supposed to do computer stuff today, but the power went out at 11:30 and didn't come on until 6-something, when I was on my way to a house concert. Miserable day, good ending.

Pauline and others, the "What is this?" is a guitar. LEJ was playing it for a while. It didn't sound bad, but it was quiet. It's an attractive 6-string arm rest. Pauline, I'm glad you took the picture because I've tried to describe it without much success.


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Ferrara
Date: 26 Oct 05 - 12:41 AM

Have looked at the Flickr photos, love them! .. Added some names here and there. Ebbie, you must have a fantastic memory or a fantastic note taking system!


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Janie
Date: 26 Oct 05 - 12:29 PM

Thanks Pauline....Boy, did we have fun, or did we have fun!

Janie


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From: Ebbie
Date: 26 Oct 05 - 12:50 PM

Thanks, Ferrara. Funny that I was feeling frustrated at NOT knowing so many names. I hope the identities get filled in. At next year's Getaway we'll be ready!


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From: George Papavgeris
Date: 26 Oct 05 - 01:05 PM

Just dropped some of our pictures onto the flickr Mudcat pool also


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From: Leadfingers
Date: 26 Oct 05 - 01:06 PM

The old old story - put up a profile with a piccy and we will all know what we all look like . Oh , and by the way , 400 !!!


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From: Leadfingers
Date: 26 Oct 05 - 01:09 PM

Bugger ! George got in on the 400th while I was typing !!


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From: Ferrara
Date: 26 Oct 05 - 01:55 PM

Could some kind Mudcat elf possibly add the link for the 2005 Getaway Flickr web page to the Quick Links? It's a great resource IMHO. Maybe under Photos & Member Info if it doesn't rate its own link?


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From: Ebbie
Date: 26 Oct 05 - 02:52 PM

Thanks, Rita! I'd hate to have that page fall off the edge.


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: MMario
Date: 26 Oct 05 - 04:11 PM

hmmm- a workshop on bodrhan songs? 'Brian the King' almost *demands* bodrhans - wouldn't mind trying it with a massed bodrhan choir. Get enough of them and maybe I could even stay on beat!

To our shy friend - I am almost pathologically afraid of new situations, entering new places, mneeting new people, etc. My first Getaway I almost turned the car around and drove away.and this was despite having met a number of people previously at Old Songs, and knowing them from the mudcat. So I can sympathise.

I missed a good section of Sunday nights concert because I had to go outside until the shaking stopped after my turn. (My stage fright tends to hit AFTER performance rather then before).

But the music is worth it. But that doesn't mean you have to perform if you don't want to - you can always request a tune or song when it's your turn. (This backfired on me once when I requested one from a much more seasoned performer - and when his turn came he requested one he knew I did.)


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: skarpi
Date: 26 Oct 05 - 04:21 PM

Bodhráns songs workshop , yes there are many songs that can be used
and I think that those who play bodhrán would like take part in that kind of workshop.
I would like to do that workshop.

bomm taki bomm bommm

All the best Skarpi Iceland.


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Ebbie
Date: 26 Oct 05 - 04:44 PM

ja ja jippy ja ja!


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From: skarpi
Date: 26 Oct 05 - 05:16 PM

singin jaja jibbyjibby jaja , singin jaja jibbyjibby jæ
singin jaja jibbyjibby jaja, de var brennivin flasken da vi kom .

Forget me never ,
All the best Skarpi Iceland.


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Ferrara
Date: 26 Oct 05 - 05:28 PM

Ebbie, do you have a recording of Skarpi's cowboy song? Oh, I hope so! Skarpi, what a wonderful moment that was.


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From: Ebbie
Date: 26 Oct 05 - 06:13 PM

Yes, I do, Rita- and it's a good one.

Last year most of the recording I did was sub standard, I didn't have an external mike so too much extraneous stuff was picked up. This year's is much better- (except for what appears to be an incipient case of asthma on my part! I'll have to have that checked out.)

Next year I want to see about acquiring a lightweight mike stand- every time I moved the mike, it made noise. Irritating as can be.

But there are a lot of really good recordings. My plan is to take the minidiscs to a tech shop and have them make master CDs from them- I suspect there will be 7 or so - only about 80 minutes goes onto each CD and I think I will have something like 500 minutes. Haven't finished the clean up process yet so new firm figures yet.

Before I do that, I will start a thread on the identities of singers and songs. That will give each person one last chance to say 'NO WAY'!!

After that I'll finish the process and burn a copy for everyone who wants one- or follow through on whatever better ideas people have. Maybe donate a copy to the Mudcat?

In any case, there are a ton of songs there that I want to learn. Y'all have BEAUTIFUL voices and you know many, many songs that I had never heard.


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From: Ferrara
Date: 26 Oct 05 - 06:29 PM

I was just talking to Tannywheeler and she told me her husband, Bob, makes (and plays) bodhrans, as well as sets of bones.   Let's hope both of them can come next year, huh?


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Bobert
Date: 26 Oct 05 - 08:43 PM

Ahhhh, this ain't the same Bob who has been down to Archie Edwards Barber Shop in D.C. with the bodhrans, is it, Rita???...


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: GUEST,Lorraine
Date: 26 Oct 05 - 09:06 PM

There were lots of special moments for me too. In Kathy's workshop for Helen, the big full choruses were wonderful. Jeri's song that she'd sung for Helen touched me- I want to hear it again please. Meeting Justine at dinner and discussing Dungeons and Dragons (almost introducing her to Barry because I hadn't figured it out). George Ward's workshoop (he's such a good singer) especially his song you can't build a barn without friends (I don't know the real title) Has he recorded that anywhere? Becoming buddies with Sandy LaPrell. Watching Ken and Barry sing and interact, listening to Mary Smith sing, enjoying Tom and Liz singing behind me during the sunday concert, and Scarpis singing the Elvis song with no accent, Mary Js's song in the Ballads session of the Ghost Ship,   George and Mary's whole set, Getting a hug from Mick, rubbing KarenK's back and Ebbie rubbing mine! Watching Rita Glow and Bill grin. Watching the youngsters show off their treasures that George had made or hidden for them, sitting by the pond with Pete and Will watching the ducks....There were times that I felt out of place or just too self conscious to be comfortable,I am grunpy with myself for not singing in the concert-maybe next year, but it was a wonderful Getaway. Thanks to all. Lorraine


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Maryrrf
Date: 26 Oct 05 - 09:17 PM

I'm really amazed at how much good this weekend did me, and my friend Maria says the same thing. I work in a very corporate environment - have to for the time being mainly because my son needs the insurance coverage and I need to be in a big company. Sometimes I feel so drained, and it seems like the big impersonal corporation just overwhelms me. I come home and don't even feel like singing a song or picking up an instrument. But at the Getaway I found myself coming back to life - everything seemed so "real". The great thing about folk music is that it's plain and simple and very human. At work everything seems complicated and abstract. It was good to get a dose of humanity and simplicity. Now I feel like singing again.


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: KT
Date: 26 Oct 05 - 09:39 PM

Is anyone else having this experience? I'll be walking down the street, and see some of my new Getaway pals. Just yesterday I "saw" LEJ and Tannywheeler, and the day before I "saw" Jacqui and Janie. Of course it wasn't really them, but they sure looked like them and made me do a double take!!


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From: Janie
Date: 26 Oct 05 - 10:07 PM

Oh, but KT, I DID see you today-as I gazed at the Getaway pictures.

Wish I was looking at you right now, sitting across from me in the living room, with Ebbie and Dani....talking, laughing, sharing ourselves, singing and trading songs.


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Dani
Date: 26 Oct 05 - 10:15 PM

I have a similar experience, but it happens when I look at people in a car next to me in traffic, or waiting in line somewhere, and I see a tired face, or a stressed-out face, just a plain-ol-face, and think, "I don't know you. I don't know a blessed thing about you. But who knows? You just MIGHT be the type that piles into a car once a year to sing your heart out with like-minded weirdo-folkie types. Who the hell knows?!! My God, you might do it every Tuesday night!"

And then I have to smile at them. And they smile back. And then, I think, maybe I DO know you ; )

Dani


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: KT
Date: 26 Oct 05 - 10:16 PM

Oh, me too, Janie!!! What a grand time we'd have!!


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Amos
Date: 26 Oct 05 - 10:18 PM

I suspect you're having a telepathic period, KT, which can be confusing if you don't notice it!! Just keep on being you and let the flow proceed and all will be well!!

A


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Ferrara
Date: 26 Oct 05 - 11:42 PM

No, Bobert, Tannywheeler (Cynthia) and Bob live in Austin. He makes great home made sausage, too, she says; I told her he should bring that for the Friday potluck next year.

Lorraine, I'm still glowing.


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Ebbie
Date: 27 Oct 05 - 12:41 AM

Great thought, Dani. The thought kept recurring to me at the Getaway that we were seeing and being seen in our true colors. The people in the car next to you and the one next to them and the next one- who knows? We all need a place to rest.

I haven't 'seen' Mudcatters but I have had two distinct dreams about Camp Ramblewood. In last night's dream it was chilly!

Oh- I just remembered the first one- I'm outdoors by a red building -lying on the grass, would you believe - playing a CD of the Getaway. Up the roadway below the knoll where I was comes a straggly row of Getaway-ers, cheerful and noisy. Just as they passed, Janie looked up at me and smiled and waved. (Hi, Janie!)


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: KT
Date: 27 Oct 05 - 01:19 AM

Great thought, Dani. I suspect that you (kind soul that you are) do that sort of thing all the time, not just in the after Getaway high!


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Tinker
Date: 27 Oct 05 - 06:48 AM

Well, this year's been a little different since my first Getaway guest came in on the 12th and they'll be back tonight for a couple more nights. The grounding influences of everyday life seem to get pushed aside when Getaway comes home. Maybe I'll just have to open a home for wayfaring folkies.....

Kathy


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Ebbie
Date: 27 Oct 05 - 10:16 AM

I'm just a poor wayfarin' folkie
Travelin' through this world of woe...


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Amos
Date: 27 Oct 05 - 10:47 AM

But there be song, and jubilation
In that Great Camp to which I go!
I'm goin' there to hear them banjos
I'm goin' there to sing and play.
I'm just a-going over Maryland
I'm going to the Getaway!


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Ebbie
Date: 27 Oct 05 - 11:23 AM

And when I reach my destination
I'll don my hat, my boots and coat
I'll bring a bottle of my potation
To smooth and warm my singin' throat
I'm goin' there to hear them banjos
I'm goin' there to sing and play.
I'm just a-going over Maryland
I'm going to the Getaway!


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Amos
Date: 27 Oct 05 - 02:01 PM

Great stuff, Eb!!! Expect to hear you sing it next year!



A


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Ebbie
Date: 27 Oct 05 - 03:15 PM

hahhah


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: SINSULL
Date: 27 Oct 05 - 05:10 PM

Colin left this morning =- I can finally muse over this year's Getaway. It was the best ever. So many new friends; so many "old" ones; great music and laughter. A few tears.

This year's "I wish I could take home" award goes to Geoff the Duck. Even without the banjo, the man is a treasure. Beautiful wife. Beautiful children; beautiful soul.

Resting now.
SINS


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Ebbie
Date: 27 Oct 05 - 05:17 PM

I have him on disc doing 'dueling banjo and kazoo.' On a par with LeadFinger's The Entertainer on tin whistle. What IS it with these Englishmen!


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Tinker
Date: 27 Oct 05 - 05:58 PM

LOL now I just have to fix up the font and frame it to put near the door...


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Tannywheeler
Date: 27 Oct 05 - 05:59 PM

AWWRIGHT!!! Ebbie and Amos have created the Getaway Anthem. We should all be ready to sing it next year. Practice at the Friday night potluck.                      Tw


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: skarpi
Date: 27 Oct 05 - 06:13 PM

Jamm thats true " I´ll sing at my home like this :>)

'm just a poor wayfarin' folkie
Travelin' through this world of woe...

But there be song, and jubilation
In that Great Camp to which I go!
I'm goin' there to hear them banjos
I'm goin' there to sing and play.
I'm just a-going over Maryland
I'm going to the Getaway!

And when I reach my destination
I'll don my hat, my boots and coat
I'll bring a bottle of my potation
To smooth and warm my singin' throat
I'm goin' there to hear them banjos
I'm goin' there to sing and play.
I'm just a-going over Maryland
I'm going to the Getaway!

I´m an Icelandic Cowboy that I can say
And I´m finding my flight to the Get-away

And when I reach my destination
I'll don my hat, my boots and coat
I'll bring a bottle of my potation
To smooth and warm my singin' throat
I'm goin' there to hear them banjos
I'm goin' there to sing and play.
I'm just a-going over Maryland
I'm going to the Getaway!

I just had to add this on I know it not belong there , but :>)
All teh best Skarpi Iceland.


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Tannywheeler
Date: 27 Oct 05 - 06:29 PM

You take the lead, Skarpi. I'll try to work out an alto line....Tw


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Allan C.
Date: 27 Oct 05 - 06:59 PM

I come to join the wanderful people
Who come from near and far away
To share their music and their knowledge
And share their love both night and day.
I'm goin' there to sing my heart out,
Play until my fingers bleed
Until my voice begins to fail me
And someone else must sing the lead.


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: treaties1
Date: 27 Oct 05 - 07:34 PM

Great anthem I'll find a harmony somewhere and the pictures are great too, I'm still on cloud nine in rainy Manchester just reading the threads.
Thanks everyone


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Charley Noble
Date: 27 Oct 05 - 08:20 PM

At the risk of prolonging an already excessive thread, I love the Getaway song contributions, especially Scarpi's. But I'll also treasure the contributions from the other wanderful people.

I come to share them salt sea shanties,
From the ships laid up or lost,
I come to sing them old forebitters,
Which were sung while tempest tossed;
I'm gonna sing and peel the paint
From the ceiling overhead,
I'm gonna sing and raise a chorus
From them deep sea sailors so long dead!

Cheerily,
Charley Noble


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Amos
Date: 27 Oct 05 - 10:03 PM

Wow! Look what Ebbie started! I yam IMpressed!! :D


A


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Ferrara
Date: 27 Oct 05 - 10:14 PM

Charley, this isn't excessive for a Getaway thread! It's just a little longer than usual :-) ... but not by much (so far).


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Bill D
Date: 27 Oct 05 - 11:03 PM

I have been uploading pictures, and Rita has been labeling them....we are only up to about 68? out of 130-140 so far, but it is a start.

go here and see thru Sat.afternoon sometime

More tomorrow, when I get some more sorting done and my aching back, which I strained in my shop, permits.

I like this Opera pic posting....I have 300 MEGS of space, I can do 10 at a time, and it is a simple interface and goes quickly.

You can post comments about individual pics 'if' you register, and you can join and have your own albums...(see bottom of page)

If you see errors or want something added and you don't wish to join/register, PM me or post here and I'll fix it.

Have fun!


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Bill D
Date: 27 Oct 05 - 11:06 PM

oh...I put these up 'full strength'....once you click the thumbnail, you can click the larger pic again for larger view....kind of a nice trick...


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Pauline L
Date: 27 Oct 05 - 11:13 PM

I don't see any of the labels yet. Where are they?


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Bill D
Date: 27 Oct 05 - 11:23 PM

not everyone has a label...small print at the bottom of some.


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Ebbie
Date: 28 Oct 05 - 01:50 AM

Great shots, Bill. But man, does it make me realize how very much I missed. I'm not unhappy with anything I did go to at the Getaway- how could I be- they were meaty and satisfying - but I didn't so much as get to the white house - last year there was a great workshop on the back porch - and all those sunny outdoors pictures make me want to go right back and do it right this time. And the pub sing. And those pictures with the Beaubear and Amos singing and playing- where was I? I guess next time I'll just follow someone around and do what they do!


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: MMario
Date: 28 Oct 05 - 11:24 AM

Ebbie - in 4 (?) trips I've been in the white house exactly once.


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Tannywheeler
Date: 28 Oct 05 - 01:25 PM

The one waaaaaay up that hill, right?? I had enough to get to "the barn".                Tw


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Ebbie
Date: 28 Oct 05 - 01:38 PM

Kind of sad to think we probably won't see that camp again. (Ya can't win, huh, FSGWers? ha) But it is a pretty spot and the rolling green slopes are very evocative to me of my youthful days in Virginia.

Thank you, thank you to those of you who spend so much time and energy in finding an appropriate spot for us all!


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: ranger1
Date: 28 Oct 05 - 01:53 PM

It's taken two weeks, but I'm finally coming off my Getaway Buzz and have had time to actually reflect. Where to begin?
First, the non-musical memories:
Meeting Micca and Khatt
Seeing Dani again (freed any lobsters lately?) and meeting her daughters
Hugs from Big Mick and Col K
Spending Saturday afternoon just talking with Wakana on a bench in the sun
Seeing the look on Kendall's face when Jacqui gave him those roses Hanging out with MMario
The good natured crew in our cabin (come visit us in Maine, Maria!)
Seeing Maddy go from NOT having a good time to having a great time
Helping Tinker and Dani's girls decorate Mick and Koko's boudoir
Being plied with chocolate and reading Bearded Bruce's sonnets

And for the music:
KT's mini concert
Theresa's mighty voice
The Saturday night session that morphed from Irish rebel songs to blues to gospel and then some
Larry Otway's song Richard Murray
The foreign language workshop
El Greko's beautiful songs
Geoff the Duck's Duelling Banjos
Roger from Baltimore's Armadillo song
And that's just what is immediately in the front of my brain

The most important part of the Getaway for me was the shared feeling of camaraderie that I felt, and the encouragement that gave me the courage to sing in public for the first time. I will be back next year.


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: GUEST,maryrrf at work
Date: 28 Oct 05 - 02:30 PM

I'm thinking of a great workshop theme for next year. What about a "Singers Workshop for Newbies". Several people mentioned that they were just bursting to sing a song, but they were too shy or got too nervous. What about a workshop designed to help those people "find their singing voices" and overcome their shyness. It might be easier to sing in front of a bunch of people you KNOW are shaking in their shoes waiting for their turn to sing. I got over that kind of stage fright a long time ago and I think with the Getaway being such a nurturing, friendly place, that perhaps it would enable some people to break through that barrier that keeps them from participating actively in song circles.


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From: Ferrara
Date: 28 Oct 05 - 03:09 PM

Oh, I like it, maryrrf! Noted.

At Augusta Vocal Week I saw a concert given by students in a class about building confidence. They sang their "solo" parts two by two, which I thought was neat (they were singing for about 400 people.) I figure each partner gave the other something to lean on, added strength to the sound, took a little of the heat, and besides that, you wouldn't want to let your partner down by collapsing and being unable to sing.

Thread creep, I guess, Nuff said until next summer when we start to plan.


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From: Dani
Date: 28 Oct 05 - 04:44 PM

YES! Maryrrf's got it just right! And we can have buckets at hand if needed. All will be forgiven. Here's the place to miss the note, crack the voice, forget the words, turn red, shake, etc.

Oh, wait. I do that EVERYtime it's my turn!

Dani


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Bill D
Date: 28 Oct 05 - 04:54 PM

ok...just posted about 30 more pics...up to about 100, which takes us part way thru the Sat night concert. We'll try to get captions written for those before doing the rest. (If you go look in the next couple of hours after my post at 4:50 PM Mudcat time, they might not be labeled yet.)


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Charley Noble
Date: 28 Oct 05 - 06:09 PM

Bill D-

So in order to make comments I have to sign in with a password again. I'm always getting confused with how to navigate once a link transports me somewhere.

You really took some wonderful/wanderful pictures.

Cheerily,
Charley Noble


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From: skarpi
Date: 28 Oct 05 - 07:16 PM

how can I see those pict, ?
I don´t know this &%&%&"%"%&& there´s a Monday today ,
I seem to do everything wrong now ?
All the best Skarpi Iceland


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From: Ebbie
Date: 28 Oct 05 - 07:28 PM

Skarpi, go on the Mudcat Photopage thread. About the third post down, you'll see that someone has posted a blue clicky. There, - on Flickr- you will see that several people have posted a lot of pictures. Lorcan Otway (InOBU) was the first one. Penny Black, Tinker, el Greko and Bill D have also posted photos we can look at. It's great fun.


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From: treaties1
Date: 28 Oct 05 - 07:38 PM

Darn it Bill D , Some great pictures there, but I nearly got tenosynovitis with all that clicking.
Thanks to all the otherhappy snappers as well as Ebbie says "Its great fun


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From: Bill D
Date: 28 Oct 05 - 08:12 PM

oh, my! That tenosynovitis can be serious stuff, lady! (No -Opera doesn't seem to have a slide show trick...but I never do that anyway)

(I've been adding names to some of the pics, and still may do some more when my brain cell is not so tired..it's had a busy month)


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From: Ferrara
Date: 28 Oct 05 - 08:49 PM

Skarpi, Bill D's photos are at http://my.opera.com/extree/albums/


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From: Pauline L
Date: 29 Oct 05 - 12:16 AM

Skarpi, everyone else's photos are on the Mudcat pool on Flickr.com along with some non-Getaway photos by McG of H.


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From: Janie
Date: 29 Oct 05 - 11:03 PM

Thanks Bill, for getting them up. And thanks again to all of you who took pictures and then took the time put them up.

Janie


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From: Bill D
Date: 29 Oct 05 - 11:07 PM

*smile*....I still have 30 or so more to do.


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From: Pauline L
Date: 30 Oct 05 - 01:59 AM

Please identify yourself. I don't remember your name and I lost my directory. I promised to send you something. Sunday afternoon we went to the porch of the White House (Not GW Bush's White House) to jam. We were Andrew Mackay (?), Sorcha, and the Mystery Woman, who played a wooden flute. MW was from England, and her name might have been Carol. I promised to send MW a copy of one of my CDs of Chris Norman playing his wooden flute beautifully. PM me with your mailing address, and I'll get it to you ASAP. Violin/fiddle and flute sound so good together, and I've wanted to play my fiddle with a flute player for a long time. Thank you for making it happen.


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From: SussexCarole
Date: 30 Oct 05 - 12:07 PM

Hi Pauline - it was me with the flute at the white house and Andrew McKay (Crane Driver) who is my partner with the concertina. We both really enjoyed that session playing with you and Sorcha - thank you both so much. PM will follow with contact details Many thanks x


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: jimmyt
Date: 30 Oct 05 - 03:12 PM

Hello all, I just got back from vacation which I left on 3 days after getaway. It was great go read this entire thread about what was a terrific event. I thought it was just a hoot. I guess there might have been some food issues, but heck, who went for the food or sleeping accomodations? I went for music and fellowship and got my share of both! Congrats to all who planned this. I miss all my new found friends and can't wait to come again.

Just wait til you all hear Allan C, Jimmyt, and Ron Davies do some Do-wop in the near future! Maybe we can get Jerry Rasmussen to fill in the harmonies, but I am SURE that KT can make the cut here! We will not be as hard on you as Bobert was in his audition for the Pedestrians KT! And judging from the people mentioned above, we can sure use a cute leadman, er girl!


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: KT
Date: 30 Oct 05 - 04:31 PM

Do-wop!! You're on, Jimmyt!!! Heck,we'll have the whole camp do-wopping next year! There's an abundance of fabulous singers at the Getaway. Let's bring 'em all in!! Even Mr. Blues, himself!! Hope you had a great vacation. Welcome home!
KT


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From: SINSULL
Date: 30 Oct 05 - 05:03 PM

I missed Pene Azul. Next year, Jeff...promise?
SINS


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 30 Oct 05 - 05:17 PM

I'm still living my dream and bumming around the US. Won't be home for another couple of weeks so y'all will have to wait for my pix. I hope they're worth it!!
Giok


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From: CarolC
Date: 30 Oct 05 - 06:50 PM

Thanks for taking that squeezer jam picture, Bill.


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From: Catherine Jayne
Date: 31 Oct 05 - 06:33 AM

I've already started saving so Micca and I can make it next year too! We had so much fun this year and met many wonderful people!


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Amos
Date: 31 Oct 05 - 09:46 AM

Mebbe that's what doo-wop really is --- blues for white chicks. Ya think?? I am sure we can keep a doowop session going for a few hours. I recall Camp Runamuck at JenEllen's -- we had one ran that long and ended up with "The Itsy Bitsy Spider" done DooWop-cum-Motown style.

A


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Col K
Date: 31 Oct 05 - 12:04 PM

Finally home after another great trip over the pond.
Memories, the music, the friendship, the weather !!!!, the food?. All of these combine together to create a wonderful moment in a year of music.
The strength of the Getaway is in the people, from all over the world who come together to make music and to share that music with us all.
Thanks from me must go to several people who made my trip so special. Tinker for putting me up twice, Max for a night at Mudcat Central, Sinsull for a week in Maine, Ranger1 for her showing me around, Jerry Rasmussen and Ruth for a nught with them.Also thanks to Terry (Leadfingers) for some transport around.
My final thanks must go to the wonderful people of the FSGW for organizing the Getaway. How would we all get together and meet so many wonderful people without the FSGW.
I hope that I will be able to get there again sometime in the future poss next year who knows.
Many thanks to you all
Col


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Ebbie
Date: 31 Oct 05 - 12:04 PM

With your coaching, Amos, I'm sure you'll see to it that KT doesn't get fired from this venue too. *G*


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: GUEST,Nancy King at work
Date: 31 Oct 05 - 05:57 PM

Do-wop singing is an old tradition at the Getaway. I managed to miss this year's session, but I'm not surprised it happened. Many years ago, when the Getaway was at Prince William Forest Park, we always had an unofficial session we called "The B-Lodge Boogie," after the building in which it was held. Jonathan Eberhart and Tom McHenry both knew a LOT of do-wop songs, and Dwayne Thorpe (and where was HE this year??) made a lot of contributions. I wouldn't have missed it for the world. Nowadays my son Ken Schatz is the best do-wop singer I know. Learned it from my old 45s...

Maybe we oughta put do-wop on the program for next year...?

Nancy


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From: Noreen
Date: 31 Oct 05 - 06:38 PM

Yes please, Nancy! Any session with Ken in would be wonderful, whatever he was singing :0)


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Allan C.
Date: 31 Oct 05 - 07:14 PM

Doo-wop is among the few American original folk music styles. I'm thrilled to know there are so many people who are enthusiastic about this musical style. Every time I hear doo-wop I picture a Philadelphia alley with four or five guys warming their hands around a flaming 55 gallon trash barrel and raising their voices in improvised song and harmony. I heard a great song just a couple of days ago describing one such bunch. It recounted how at house parties there were times when nobody could get into the bathroom because the group had fallen in love with the echo and were singing their hearts out in there.

I can hardly wait to sing some doo-wop with some of you folks!


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From: JennyDeckner
Date: 31 Oct 05 - 07:29 PM

If you do a doo-wop workshop next year, I am DEFINITELY coming to Getaway!


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Ebbie
Date: 31 Oct 05 - 07:56 PM

A few months back PBS had a doo wop special. Reminded me of how much I enjoy it. I don't require the choreographed moves though!


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: jimmyt
Date: 31 Oct 05 - 08:13 PM

I have been performing Do-wop for about 10 years now and it is delightfully mindless entertainment! It is not exactly thought-provoking but if you dig harmony it is about as much fun as you can have with your clothes on! I look forward to laying down the bassline next year at Getaway. We need a south Philly guy with a leather jacket and a rat tail comp who can pop off the falsetto part and we will be all set!


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Amos
Date: 31 Oct 05 - 08:44 PM

SOme candidates:

Dream
Teenager in Love
Forty-eight Miles (Santa Catalina)
Who Wrote the Book of Love
Oh, Donna
A Girl Named JoAnne
...And We Belong Together, For Etermiteee
Unchained Melody
Ferry Cross the Mersey
The Bristol Stomp
Sherry, Sherry Darlin'
Where or When
Sh-Boom, Sh-Boom
Who Put the Ding in the Dingy-dang-ding-dong
Blue Moon
Moon RIver
Deep in the Dark of the Night
Love Letters in the Sand
You Butterfly
Lollipop, Lollipop
The Green Door
The Purple People Eater
The Witch Doctor

Then if you really feel adventurous we can branch out into:

Good Vibrations
Fun Fun Fun
Little Surfer
I Get Around
California Dreamin'
Little Deuce Coup´

...and I dunno where all from there!!

That's worth an hour or two right there...


A


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: jimmyt
Date: 31 Oct 05 - 08:51 PM

Amos, I think it is "Who put the Bomp" rather than "WHo put the Ding", and being from California, I would have thought you would have known they did not move Santa Catalina 48 miles off-shore but only Twenty six.

I still think you are recovering from the remnants of the Front Porch Dining Hall Blues. Hell, there is a song title right there!   jimmyt


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Lonesome EJ
Date: 31 Oct 05 - 08:59 PM

Do The Wanderer or Run Around Sue and I'll take the lead, Pal! Love that Dion stuff.


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: jimmyt
Date: 31 Oct 05 - 09:07 PM

I will gladly be a lowly Belmont!


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Amos
Date: 31 Oct 05 - 09:08 PM

Well I'm a Wanderer,
Yeah, a Wanderer,
I wander roun'an'aroun'an'aroun'anaroun...


Sorry, Jimmy, I was typing faster than I was thinking.


A


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Big Mick
Date: 31 Oct 05 - 09:14 PM

I'm in. Can't wait.

As we stroll along together, holding hands, walking all alone.

So in love, just we two, no one else but me and you,

So in love, so much in love........


I got the lead on this one. And I live just outside of Philly, so I am going to do some research. Got to be a few old timers still hanging out.

Mick


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From: jimmyt
Date: 31 Oct 05 - 09:14 PM

Here's my Story...sad but True........


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From: Big Mick
Date: 31 Oct 05 - 09:18 PM

All Doo Wop


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From: Bill D
Date: 31 Oct 05 - 09:19 PM

sounds like a GREAT workshop.......................to put opposite Appalachian ballads.


We purists need a place to escape   *grin*


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: jimmyt
Date: 31 Oct 05 - 09:26 PM

Do-woppers also are purists Bill, but only about saddle oxfords and cardigan sweaters,


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: jimmyt
Date: 31 Oct 05 - 09:38 PM

MIck, I just dredged up the artists of So much in Love. THe Thymes, 1963 Nice walk down nostalgia street!


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Amos
Date: 31 Oct 05 - 09:53 PM

Geeze....

I left out:

Dream Lover
Poor Jenny
Little Nash Rambler
Cathy's Clown
Maybe Tomorrow

and just about everything by the Crickets and Buddy Holly:

Love Like Yours
Wake Up Lil Suzie
Rave On
Oh, Boy
That'll Be the Day
It's So Easy

A-we-he-he-hell, little things you say and do, make me want to-oo be with yo-hu-hu.
Rave on, it's a crazy feeling and ah I know it's got me reelin',
when you say : I love you ! Rave on.

The way you dance and ah hold me tight,
the way you kiss and say goodni-hi-hight,
rave on, it's a crazy feeling and I know it's got me reelin',
when you say : I love you ! Rave on.

Well, rave on it's a crazy feeling,
and I know, it's got me reelin',
I'm so glad that you're revealing your love for me.
Rave on, rave on and tell me, tell me not to be lonely,
tell me, you love me only, rave on to me.


Yeah, mebbe we're talking twelve hours here....

A


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From: Amos
Date: 31 Oct 05 - 10:02 PM

Geeze....

I left out:

Dream Lover
Poor Jenny
Little Nash Rambler
Cathy's Clown
Maybe Tomorrow

and just about everything by the Crickets and Buddy Holly:

Love Like Yours
Wake Up Lil Suzie
Rave On
Oh, Boy
That'll Be the Day
It's So Easy

A-we-he-he-hell, little things you say and do, make me want to-oo be with yo-hu-hu.
Rave on, it's a crazy feeling and ah I know it's got me reelin',
when you say : I love you ! Rave on.

The way you dance and ah hold me tight,
the way you kiss and say goodni-hi-hight,
rave on, it's a crazy feeling and I know it's got me reelin',
when you say : I love you ! Rave on.

Well, rave on it's a crazy feeling,
and I know, it's got me reelin',
I'm so glad that you're revealing your love for me.
Rave on, rave on and tell me, tell me not to be lonely,
tell me, you love me only, rave on to me.


Yeah, mebbe we're talking twelve hours here....

A


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Amos
Date: 31 Oct 05 - 11:16 PM

And "A White Sports Coat and a Pink Carnation" (Rose and a Baby Ruth)

and...and...hell, I'm exhausted just thinking about all that fine doowoppery!!


Leader of the Pack
Soldier Boy
Wait a Minute Mister Postman

and...and...zzzzzzzzzz....


;>)

A


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From: GutBucketeer
Date: 31 Oct 05 - 11:31 PM

jimmy, can you teach me how to sing the bass doo wop parts?

Can't wait.

If you like doowop

Be sure to check out the vocal harmony website for some great pre doo wop songs from the 5 red caps, the Spirits of Rhythm, The Ink Spots, The 3 peppers, The 5 keys, Bill Johnson, The Mills Brothers, and many other greats.

http://www.group-harmony.com/

Gutbucketeer
Bass to the world!


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: KT
Date: 31 Oct 05 - 11:33 PM

okay do these qualify?      "Though we gotta say goodbye.....for the summer....darling, I promise you this ~I'll send you all my love, every day in a letter, sealed with a kiss."

"SOLdier boy, oh my little soldier boy......."

and how 'bout.....


"I hear the cottonwoods whisp'rin' above
Tammy! Tammy! Tammy's in love"


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Ron Davies
Date: 31 Oct 05 - 11:41 PM

Doo-wop is just THE GREATEST! I bet we could have the whole dining hall belting out a few hours of it any night.

On Sunday night I volunteered to lead "Goodnight, Sweetheart" (the Spaniels) but I was told it was too suggestive---







People would just leave and go to bed, and that would be the end of the singing.


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Ron Davies
Date: 31 Oct 05 - 11:43 PM

KT--

Do you really think we're going to turn you down on any song you want to sing?

(Only Bobert would do that).


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Amos
Date: 31 Oct 05 - 11:45 PM

Not me, boy. If KT wants to do lead on "Soldier Boy", I'll enlist for the duration. :D


A


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Ebbie
Date: 31 Oct 05 - 11:46 PM

Poor Bobert!


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From: KT
Date: 01 Nov 05 - 12:09 AM

Poor Bobert indeed! He's not the one whose budding blues career went down the tube in 2 minutes flat!

How 'bout, "Goin' to the Chapel and we're gonna get ma-a-a-ried."


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: KT
Date: 01 Nov 05 - 12:14 AM

Amos, you're a riot! I wish we could all get together so sing before next Getaway! It's too far away!!


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: jacqui.c
Date: 01 Nov 05 - 07:46 AM

All those wonderful songs. Can't wait to get to the Getaway next year.


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Bobert
Date: 01 Nov 05 - 08:38 AM

Hey, KT, think 'bout it this way... Rather than havin' a buddin' blues career crash and burn in 2 mintutes mine has been in a 40 year long tail spin... Now that's the blues...

So consider yerself lucky...

But, hark... I still am quite fond on the doo-woop years... Them songs bring back a lot of good memories when life was simpler and my biggest worry was making baseball practice on time...

I think the best of the doo-woop songs was "Blue Moon"... It had more twists than them Bush administartion tryintg to explain exactly why we invaded Iraq (bad Bobert, take it below the line...)...

Bobert


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Mrs.Duck
Date: 01 Nov 05 - 09:01 AM

Now we are home its time to look back through the videos and photoes and try to recapture just a small amount of the wonder that is the Getaway. I feel like I've found a whole new branch of the family and can't wait to meet them all again. Jacqui and Sinsull are my new best friends and Big Mick is the new 'Hug on a Stick'. Kids have a new Uncle Mmario too. CET and Charmion turned out to not only be great friends but wonderful hosts too.
My head is full of songs and my heart full of memories.


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 01 Nov 05 - 10:28 AM

You're not contiguous KT that's your problem.
Giok ;~)


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Amos
Date: 01 Nov 05 - 12:43 PM

She's quite contiguous enough for my tastes, Giok -- your mother must have been scared by a Picasso print before you were born.

Anyway KT, you ARE a budding blues artist. Just get those words to "Juneau Woman Blues" down and we'll start working on the whole delivery shtick. Thing about blues delivery is, it is simple. It HAS ta be simple. That's where it comes from -- simple places, simple people, nothin' gussied up. So even though the good blues like Bobert's stuff SEEMS complex and subtile, it is just cuz he knows how to weave together a few simple things.

One of them is the guttural. To make a guttural, make believe you are a talking dog with laryngitis and sing a line or two that way.

Another is the Blues Grunt. This is not the "wake me up out of a deep sleep to ask for water" grunt, or the "ask me if this dress makes me look fat while I am doing my tax returns" grunt. This is the sort of grunt that comes from an EXCESS of sentiment trying to get out through a mouth too long forced shut by public censure. It's a deep, in-your-soul, every sad moment all remembered at once kinda grunt. Like all the times you wanted to just haul off and throw a rolling pin at yer man, jump off a bridge into deep ice, or bash some catty rival between the eyes with a spiked heel, or weeping for all the lost chillun you have ever seen, all summed up in a deep, rapid exhalation -- WHUH!!!!!!. Not that you have any rivals, but you know what I mean.

There is also the Angry Blues Grunt, which is like the above but mixed in with a really big sow deciding her piglets are under threat and lurching to the attack. That's a kinda grunt you do NOT wanna mess wit!! But anyone can master it, with a little practice.

Then there's the Near-Tears-Whine. This is a dual-vector pressure release which delivers bottomless grief through the belief that grownups never cry. Ya gotta clamp it down while making it irrepressible, that's the trick, like a Pushme-Pullyou in four-wheel drive fighting against itself to get nowhere. When you get that feeling nice and stirred up, ya just throw back your head and let out a blues line, any line will do, but ya fracture it with those two opposing forces and ya got yerself a world-class Near-Tears Whine.

There's a few other minor techniques for delivering blues, but you start working on these, using the words to Juneau Woman Blues, and you will be on your way to a rising stardom the like of which ole Bobert has merely DREAMED about, I tell ya!

A


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From: Ferrara
Date: 01 Nov 05 - 03:10 PM

Oh my heavens Amos! Now you're setting up a Blues School for Ladies! I love it. LMAO.


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From: Amos
Date: 01 Nov 05 - 03:25 PM

Thanks, Rita. But that reminds me. HOW could we have left out "Venus, If You Will....". My Gawd, we must be having senior moments here!! LOL!


A


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From: Barry Finn
Date: 01 Nov 05 - 05:36 PM

Love the idea of DOing Do-Woop, it'll be like home as a kid. As a kid growing up in a housing project we used to take out a Hi-Fi & plug it into a 1st floor apt & crank up the sound & soon enough the courtyard would be dancing to the latest. Dancing in the Streets was always a must. No one ever did any singing thought, must've perfered the human touch & getting the hormones ragging.
Also like the idea of bodhran songs, I'll have to start brushing up, now.

Barry


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From: Big Mick
Date: 01 Nov 05 - 07:56 PM

One more reason to love Philly. Doo Wop, in addition to Cheese steaks, Tony Luc's, Independence Square, great neighborhoods, Philly Folk Society, 21 Ancient Order of Hibernians Divisions ...... I could go on and on .........

I hate being away from home, but love being on the East Coast.

I can't wait for next year at Getaway.

Mick


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From: Bobert
Date: 01 Nov 05 - 08:06 PM

Well, gol danged, Amos... That's exactly, almost word fir word, that I said to KT but did it sink in??? Well, maybe???

Next night she comes up to me and she's doin' a nasty version of her upcomin' song "Tastee Freeze Blues"... Whew, when that baby hits the airwaves there'll be blues singes jumpin' in front of tarins and outta highrise windows left and right...

I just have that feelin' that between the two of us we have awakened a blueswomen who is ready to slash and burn the Delta down to bottom of the Mississippi River bed... Yeah, "Tastee Freeze Blues" gonna be so hot that its gonna vaporize the entire Mississippi ERiver, gonna split the country in two and make Death Valley look like a creek in yer backyard...

Sho nuff...

That's the way I see it...

Bobert


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From: kendall
Date: 02 Nov 05 - 07:58 AM

I'm with Bill. Do oop? AAAARRRGGG!!!


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From: Bat Goddess
Date: 02 Nov 05 - 08:06 AM

A couple girl friends and I have been known to do research on and perform (much to Curmudgeon's dismay) in a historical context an under studied American music genre -- the "Dead Date" Song.

Patches -- Last Date -- Tell Laura I Love Her -- Ebony Eyes -- Laurie -- Leader of the Pack, etc.

Linn

(No, Kendall, I wouldn't dare if you were around!)


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From: jacqui.c
Date: 02 Nov 05 - 08:21 AM

Kendall can go off to whatever else is scheduled. I'm with you guys.

Sins and I have been known to start singing 50s and 60s hits together, even when the Capn's around, just to extend his musical education.


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From: Leadfingers
Date: 02 Nov 05 - 08:34 AM

If you lot are going to start doing fifties/sixties Doo-Wop , I will start looking for kindred souls to start a Getaway Jazz Band - New Orleans to Chicago stuff , preferably !


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From: Bobert
Date: 02 Nov 05 - 08:44 AM

Hey look, Kendall and Leadfingers, that's why there's always other similtanious concerts or workshops scheduled at these Getaways...

I wouldn't mind a MoTown workshop either but not volunteerin' to lead one... Maybe our resident juke box, Amos, would step up to the plate fir it...

Bobert


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Amos
Date: 02 Nov 05 - 10:06 AM

Don't forget "Teen Angel". One of the schmaltziest of the schmaltziest!!


A


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From: MMario
Date: 02 Nov 05 - 10:13 AM

Love Potion #9 ?
Ape on the Fire Escape?
Buke of Earl!


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From: rumanci
Date: 02 Nov 05 - 11:34 AM

hmmmm
BatGoddess said
(No, Kendall, I wouldn't dare if you were around!)


Oh dear
I would
in fact it might even convince me to sing again
LOL


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Amos
Date: 02 Nov 05 - 11:40 AM

There ya go, Rum!! You get lead on "Lonely Teenager" and "Teenager in Love"!!

This is gonna be the Biggest DooWop Marathon ever heard on planet Earth.

I am presently trascribing the old classic "Wild Rover" into Doo-Wop form. I had it all rigged out as a blues but the chance to do it never came up, so next year I'll have it in DooWop format.

C.............Am..............F................G
Nay, no-o-o never (baadadummm)Never no mo-ore (no more! no more!)

...

You get the idea.


A


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From: John MacKenzie
Date: 02 Nov 05 - 12:14 PM

Rather not thanks.
G. :~)


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Amos
Date: 02 Nov 05 - 02:18 PM

Ach, ye auld steek inna mudd, Jock!! LOL


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Pauline L
Date: 02 Nov 05 - 02:28 PM

Mrs. Duck, I've never heard the phrase Hug on a Stick Before. I like it.

I've been told by someone who knows about these things that doo wop, strictly speaking, means a kind of song with four voices, like the rock counterpart of barbershop quartets. Whatever. I vote for Bye Bye Love, Down in the Boon Docks, Under the Boardwalk, Wake Up Little Suzy, Duke of Earl (not Buke or Puke, Mmario), and I'm sure I'll think of many others. Can we revise the rules to include fiddle harmony in our doo wop band?


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: kendall
Date: 02 Nov 05 - 02:32 PM

I hated it then and I still do. Sign me, Hard core folkie.


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From: George Papavgeris
Date: 02 Nov 05 - 02:49 PM

It all starts innocuously enough: with Doo Wop workshops. It's the thin end of the wedge, I tell you. Before you know it there'll be a Headbangers Ball instead of a ceilidh and Pogo to your Favourite Heavy Metal Number. Gimme something traditional I say, like John Mehlberg's Collection - that will put "stars" in people's eyes!


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From: Amos
Date: 02 Nov 05 - 03:19 PM

Sigh..ah, you purists; I love ya like brothers, but you'd'a hadda been there -- swamped by the fire of hormones and terrified by nukes and people of the opposite sex alike -- to understand what a joyful thing doowop was in the hearts of the young just before the Beatles started, just before the Kingston Trio hit the Big Time, when Bob Dylan was still thinking about his first kiss hopefully... it is the emblazoned Badge of an Era, is doowop. A genuine grassroots evolution, born out of Memphis and Mississippi by Pat Boone and Patti Page. Like Dixieland, like Gershwin, or like Barbershop before it, it is a unique musical stamp, an icon of its time. Show some respect!!! ROFLMAO!

A


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: GUEST,maryrrf at work
Date: 02 Nov 05 - 03:32 PM

I don't like Doo Wop either but there are so many choices at the Getaway that I know I'll have a couple of alternatives to choose from. So let the Doo Woppers doo their thing.


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Jeri
Date: 02 Nov 05 - 03:40 PM

Here's my story, true but sad
About a girl that was very bad
In May it was, in Scarlett town
Sweet William died when she put him down
I shoulda known it from the start
He had no sense, she had no heart
So listen close to the tale I tell
And stay away from that Barbara A'l

Ba-ba-ba
Ba-ba-bra Al
Ba-ba-ba...

(Be glad I accidentally erased A-may shoobie doo Zing grace shoobie doo...


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Bill D
Date: 02 Nov 05 - 03:47 PM

Amos...I WAS there!..I saw it all. My 50th HS reunion will happen in a couple years!!!I used to watch "Your Hit Parade" with Giselle and Snooky and the others. But I just never took to it...."...the fire of hormones" was there, but nukes never fazed me. I REMEMBER hearing "Whict Sport Coat and Pink Carnation" and thinking...YUCK! what crap! That was what? 1956 or so?

I guess some of us are just saddled and cursed with taste and discernment and are doomed to never have ANY fun....

*evil giggle*


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Ebbie
Date: 02 Nov 05 - 04:15 PM

Well, I'se older than both of yez (put together) and I was there too-and I loved it. Now it is true that I was not fond of Pat Boone (but I never thought of him and Patti Page together- what?) but I liked the Ink Spots, Cab Calloway, LOVED Sam Cooke, the Mills Brothers, ya get the picture. I also LOVED Elvis's voice (never got into his movies), the twist, the raucous bouncy havy rhythms of 'Raunchy' and 'Rebel Rouser' (are those titles evocative or what!). I don't know if any of these songs or singers come under the umbrella of folk (but I never heard a horse sing them) but I don't really care. They were songs of an era asd as such they had their place.

Oh, dear, a generation from now, I can hear the young'uns of today talking about Rap. (Not you, Rap.)


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Nancy King
Date: 02 Nov 05 - 04:31 PM

Doo-wop may not be "folk music" (whatever that is...), but it is definitely the music a lot of us grew up with. And it surely has generated a response here!

Rest assured, Bill and Kendall and other "purists", there will be other options...

Bam da lam!
Nancy


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: ranger1
Date: 02 Nov 05 - 06:03 PM

Isn't folk music the music of people? If that's the case, gives a pretty broad definition. My musical tastes are all over the spectrum and some of it would give Kendall and Curmudgeon absolute fits (Godsmack, anyone?). I like Do Wop, but I probably wouldn't attend a workshop on it. That's the beauty of music, though, something for everyone.


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 02 Nov 05 - 06:46 PM

In rap Ebbie the C is silent like the P in swimming.
Giok


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Ebbie
Date: 02 Nov 05 - 07:37 PM

hahha And it's spelled 'carp', as somebody near and dear to us all has it.


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From: GUEST
Date: 02 Nov 05 - 07:44 PM

Dont forget the in-crowd.

I go with the incrowd, I...


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Bobert
Date: 02 Nov 05 - 08:07 PM

Ahhhhh, I guess you thought you'd slide that one by me, din't ya, Eb...

Well, if ya think yer gonna slide one by this ol' hillbilly yer gonna have to get up early and pack two lunches...

(Ahhhh, Bobert, seein' as there's like 4 'er 7 hours different between Luary time and Alaska time, Ebbie could get up at noon an' slide anything she might want to slide by you....)

Ahhhh, mere techincality, I say...

Ahhhh, Part Two... Sniff... Yeah, I used think rap was "carp" until this past summer when my son, Will to me, Ben to the rest of the world (don't ask....) came to visit fir a month and he brought his own rap stuff that he's written with him and so while he was here I invited him up to perfom with me at two pwerformances and we did a rap/blues song and he certainly taught me a few things about rap... And I was so proud to hear him spill out his story/poetry in "carp" form and he did it up-n'walkin'-good...

Sniff....

Sho did, he tore up the palce and there were folks in the crowd that come up to him afterwards and told him that they hadn't ever listened to no rap but tnhey liked what he had done...

Double sniff...

And all I had to do was hold a beat and be a proud dad...

The boy is good...

And yeah, most rap is carp but not his...

That's my story...

Bobert


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: kendall
Date: 02 Nov 05 - 08:30 PM

Actually, being a liberal and all, straight but not narrow as it were, if you want to clutter up your minds with that drivel, be my guest. Bill and I will be off looking under rocks or something.


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From: GUEST
Date: 02 Nov 05 - 08:32 PM

Do op = witless, smarmy pap for the masses.


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Ebbie
Date: 02 Nov 05 - 08:36 PM

Beaubear, you is a funny man. And I do mean funny ha ha ha ha ha ha.


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Bill D
Date: 02 Nov 05 - 09:08 PM

looking under rocks? Nope, kendall..at trees!! (yep, Nancy...I never really have to worry at Getaways...someone will be out there keeping the flame of purity burning..)

"Isn't folk music the music of people?"....it might be, but then the definition is so broad as to be useless. Folk is a specific area of the peoples music. A search will get you 4,307 paragraphs explaining the nuances *grin* (especially under my name)

(The "people" sang and listened to a LOT of stuff, from Druid Madrigals to City Billy drinkin' songs...gotta tell 'em apart)


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Bobert
Date: 02 Nov 05 - 09:18 PM

Like whad I say funny now, Eb??? I was tryin' to be real serious...

(ahhhh, yer in serious trouble here, Bobert, when yer spillin' yer guts out and folks is thinkin' is funny....)

Well, okay I mighta have let out a wird 'er two, maybe a comma, heck I don't know...

Tell yaq what, I'z gonna try to get the boy to cvome by and lay some of his rap down on us old foggies and see how folks take it...

Kendall is gonna say it's "carp" an' maybe it's is "carp"... HJey he's the sea guy not me... I wouldn't know a carp from a big goldfish....

Bobert


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: GUEST
Date: 02 Nov 05 - 10:09 PM

[Verse 1]
Rap is poetry, just a regular FORm
The minds of uncommon are where thoughts are BORn
Through the days they change, just like the phrases
Cuz if they didn't, it'd be all hazes
If you want an answer, go check a book
But most young folks won't give a look
Cuz youth is fun or so they say
Why would I want to be old and grey?
My grampa's oldsmobile, is where you'll stay
Cuz sometimes you live in yesterday.

[Chorus]
Three verses,
Two back-ups,
A chorus,
A bridge,
I like using words
Just a smidge

Four beats,
2 sheets,
An old ink pen,
My old man I must defen'

[Verse 2]
Don't drop the N bomb,
If you can help it
And if you can't
You shouldn't yelp it
Respect is what
this is All about
If you got somethin to say
C'mon and shout
If you're mad or sad
Then come take a bout
Don't just sit in your
Room and pout..
Don't bottle it up
Or one day you'll pop
At thanksgiving dinner
Or just at the shop

[Chorus]

[Verse 3]
There's some rules that go
With speakin a rhyme...
Don't lie, don't try
ndd keep with the time
If you follow those rules
you'll be just fine
So c'mon and write
It starts with one line
IF the words just flow
And show you the go
Then you have a gift
To gives others a lift
And when the time comes
that someone says prove it
you get up and grab it
Move it and groove it.

[Ending(speak freely to mic until fade):
So uhh..if you felt like this was good..
Why don't you come up and put a dollah in the bucket?
I ain't afraid to beg..I'm on my hands and knees all day long
Yeah.]


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: GUEST
Date: 02 Nov 05 - 10:18 PM

That song was from Will, Bobert's son..This is he as well :) Bobert and I did a couple of songs and jammed together with his guitar as accomp...It sounded really good, aside from my need for a less nasaly voice, but not much can be done about that. I just figgered I'd come on here and try to explain things from my point of view and maybe sway some minds. I'm not here to start a fight or anything, but if I can finish an exsisting one that'd be a good.

Peace people, peace.
Will


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Bobert
Date: 02 Nov 05 - 10:20 PM

Like I said, I hate "carp" but the boy certainly has a way with wirds...'

Thankee, Will, you be the "carp" man 'round this joint... No protest....

(An BTW, nice stuff... New???)

Yer ol' man


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Peace
Date: 02 Nov 05 - 10:25 PM

Rap ain't folk, that's true. But it's becoming part of folk. Listen sometime to Dylan's talkin' blues or "Maggie's Farm". Just another form of rap.

Bobert's son: I ain't a fan of rap, but you be doin' better'n OK. Keep at it. It's an art form with which I have no facility, but I have always appreciated reading/listening to folks that are good at what they do. And that you be!

PS I read it three times. Good one.


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: GUEST
Date: 02 Nov 05 - 10:26 PM

Hey, I wrote that just for these folks :) I sat down and tapped it out...then I tried to switch back to this window and dag on if I didn't click on a hidden ebay link under the submit button. Twice. And had to rewrite the whole dag on thing. Really made me frustrated, so...things started flowin better by the end.


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Peace
Date: 02 Nov 05 - 10:34 PM

Son, I don't mind the rap, and I don't mind that you like the stuff, but fer gawd's sake don't start writin' like yer ol' man.

My apologies to all, BTW. Didn't realize which thread I was on. Take care, Bobert's son. Best to you.


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Bobert
Date: 02 Nov 05 - 10:48 PM

Hey, Peaceie, I couldn't write stuff like him no more than he could write stuff like me... But I will take at least a little credit fir makin' my emphasis wid da boy just a couple things: 1. Don't beat up yer mom while I at work and 2. Think outta the box...

And thems si about the only two things that I got across to him and both took purdy good and I'm glad on both counts that they did...

Sniff... I'm sure there were more things that I wanted to impart but time run out on us...

Like rebuildin' a carburator...

Sniff...

Bobert


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Peace
Date: 02 Nov 05 - 11:01 PM

Sorry Bobert. Let me clarify: 'Son, I don't mind the rap, and I don't mind that you like the stuff, but fer gawd's sake don't start writin' like yer ol' man does ON THE THREADS.'


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 02 Nov 05 - 11:09 PM

sniff!


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From: Bobert
Date: 02 Nov 05 - 11:15 PM

Shoot, Bruce, the boy can both typ0e right and spell even righter... He was typin' 130 wirds a minute when he was like, ahhhhh, 7 'er 8.... His teachers were sayin' that he couldn't cut it but he could out type and out spell 'um all??? Go figure??? I can't dop either too good and herer the boy has been able to do this stuff fir ever????

Ain't fair....

But hey, I can sho nuff out play him on guitar...

But that's 'bout it....

B~


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Ferrara
Date: 02 Nov 05 - 11:21 PM

Will-or-Ben, this has got to be the neatest and most surprising Getaway Reflections thread we've ever had. Almost certainly it's the first time a rap has been written just for a Getaway thread, and -- it's good stuff, too! Thanks.


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Bobert
Date: 02 Nov 05 - 11:33 PM

Yeah, too cool, especially since 'bout an hour ago I called my son, the Will-to-me, Ben-to-you-all an' told him to step on up an' he come with his stuff, like ain't nuthin' 'bout it... Hey, wait a minute.... I don't drive no Olds-mobile....

Ahhh, you wanta butt whupp here now, youngin??? Just how big a boy is you these days???

Nevermind that las question. I can take you...

Ahhh, what was the question??? Ahhhh, yeah, "carp"...

Well, son, should you bother this way 'gain, be-very-ware of Ebbie... She has taken over for Louid as yer new Godmother and she is danged strick... No more slackin' 'er smokin dope... No sir, it's play in the right key from here out....

...ain't that the blues... 'er raps... 'er carps...

Yer dad,

the Bobert


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Pauline L
Date: 03 Nov 05 - 01:33 AM

There was some doo wop singing at the Getaway one night, but it was outdoors and people were smoking. Yuk! I couldn't stay. Next year we'll have our doo wop indoors and smoke free. I changed my mind about fiddle harmony with doo wop singing. I tried it tonight and it was not good. I can sing as part of a group but certainly not solo.


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Celtaddict
Date: 03 Nov 05 - 01:45 AM

Pauline, I expect you are right. I don't suppose a bodhran would be a good doo-wop enhancer, either.
But I love it that there is some of everything, and especially that there may be some of everything in one after-hours session!


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Ron Davies
Date: 03 Nov 05 - 07:36 AM

Jeri--that is just priceless (2 Nov 2005 3:40 PM)--and it basically fits the meter too. Maybe a group could work it up and sing it at a concert--the element of surprise would still be there for anybody who hasn't read this thread.

You have a real gift for this--didn't you do one about a plane with Cat Stevens being forced to land in Maine?



"Guest" (Ghost)--

Do-wop--"witless smarmy pap for the masses"--yeah but it's so much FUN when you do it yourself--is it possible that you can't?

And "smarmy" is a bit harsh. "Silly" is a lot closer. It's also fun to sing and not take what you're singing seriously--or do you have no sense of humor?


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Janie
Date: 03 Nov 05 - 08:25 AM

Bobert ol' pa, you got reason to be right proud of that youngin'. Thanks, Ben-Will, for creating for us!

Like Opera, I can appreciate the talent and creativity of rap--I just don't enjoy it.

Annie recorded most of the 'Raise the Roof' gospel session and sent me a copy which I got to sample last night. Gave me chills to hear all those wonderful voices raised in full chorus again--to hear the harmonies weave in and out, to picture again the face of whoever was leading a particular song.

The Getaway is pure magic!

Janie


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 03 Nov 05 - 09:27 AM

Runaround Who?

Here's my story sad but true, about a plucker I once knew
He took his axe and he played around, with every other kind of sound
He played the blues he played some soul, he some tunes that are very old
But I tell you girls he'll steal your heart, he's just a round heeled musical tart.

A A Amos Jessup
A A Amos Jessup
A A Amos Jessup
With his baritone and his D35
He'll be the last one left alive.


Sorry Amos, just couldn't resist that one, *BG*
Giok


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Tinker
Date: 03 Nov 05 - 10:37 AM

Ahh Bobert seems to me if ya look a this

Roots of Rap

That boy may just be on a continuation of the road you've been walking. Thanks for sharing it.

Okay I confess, I like Do-Wop. It's just plain fun with form and sound. A lot like this thread.

And KT I haven't forgotten, I'm beginning to find us a Lady Blue song list. You just didn't have the right songs to hit your own blue spot... I bet we can find something....BG...


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Amos
Date: 03 Nov 05 - 10:45 AM

Well, Jock, I am just rocking back on my round ole heels. I gotta say. I have never been so honored in my whole wuthless life, and that's a fack. Thank you so much! Round-heeled musical tart indeed!! LOL!!!

Tinker, KT has "The Juneau Woman Blues" and I have promised her several other specific blues which might fit her framework of reference; she ain't grabbing at the opportunity yet, though. I promised to send her a demonstration CD of how they might be done.

I am behind on writing them, though, and I believe you are right -- the emphasis on lady's blues is perhaps the key thing to uncover the flaming world-class blues artist behind that deceptive, doe-eyed exterior of kind tranquility.

What do you suggest, as a piece de resistance?


A

PS Beaubear has promised if KT won't do the "Juneau Woman Blues", then he will; but I have reservations about hearing him make some of the assertions in the song....


A


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From: ranger1
Date: 03 Nov 05 - 11:22 AM

Uh oh! Tinker is involved in finding songs for KT? Be afraid, very afraid! Oh, wait, as long as SINSULL and jacqui aren't involved, it's probably safe. Please don't use that tape, please...


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Tinker
Date: 03 Nov 05 - 11:53 AM

Now Tami when have you ever heard me participate in a song that was anything less than appropriate.... After all the blues is an old and traditional genre. I wouldn't recommend anything that didn't meet that standard or that I wouldn't sing myself.
See it's perfectly safe.


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From: jacqui.c
Date: 03 Nov 05 - 11:54 AM

And why would that be Tami??????

(It's not too early to start planning for next year. He he hhe he)


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From: lamarca
Date: 03 Nov 05 - 02:19 PM

Well, FOO! The message I posted earlier never made it - it must be hovering out in the Ethernet...

"Catter Jerry Rasmussen has written a wonderful song about the Death of Doo-wop and it's on the DT here:

Ten Pound Radio

I would like to renew my proposal for a Getaway workshop (which I of course forgot about while this year's Program Committee was meeting) called "Guilty Pleasures", in which all of use folkies who love rock'n'roll, doo-wop, etc. can sing our favorite non-folk songs in a safe, non-Purist-Snob environment, where I can sing "White Rabbit" or duet with Jeri on Warren Zevon's "Carmelita" without my husband or Bill Day scowling at me...

I know these kinds of songs get sung in the alcoholic haze of late-night songswaps, when you put your brain on auto-pilot and all the lyrics of all those songs you sang along with on the radio come back to you - but wouldn't it be deliciously fun to try to sing them in the Light of Day, in Defiance of the Folk Police who would Censor our Singing?

Come all ye bold folkies
and list' to my song
It's newish and mod
And not very long
You won't find it in Child
Or in Greig or in Peacock
'Twas collected in high school
And is now "Classic Rock"...


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From: SINSULL
Date: 03 Nov 05 - 02:58 PM

Can I do "Tell Laura I Love Her"??????


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From: Allan C.
Date: 03 Nov 05 - 03:11 PM

Sure SINSULL, if I can do "Patches."


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From: SussexCarole
Date: 03 Nov 05 - 03:12 PM

Being totally naive and not knowing what Doo-Wap is (WHAT! I hear you shriek), I searched our music collection and found a CD called Doo-Wap Volume 1 (Thanks Jerry R).

Next year perhaps Kendall, Giok, Andrew & Me could form a group called the Don't Waps!


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From: SussexCarole
Date: 03 Nov 05 - 03:18 PM

Sorry Bill D forgot to add you to the group!


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From: Bill D
Date: 03 Nov 05 - 04:29 PM

*great big grin* hey, Carole..that's a FINE idea! We used to have a lady come to the Getaway and lead "Anti-Gospel" on Sunday morning.....but the "Don't Wops" (and/or "Waps") has such a ring to it!


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 03 Nov 05 - 04:33 PM

Maybe the anti-gospel thing should be called the Don't Wasp to balance out the doo wops?
Giok


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: skarpi
Date: 03 Nov 05 - 04:40 PM

I think I will be the only one who do the folkie woopie de woop?
with a bodhrán .

All the best Skarpi Iceland.


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Bill D
Date: 03 Nov 05 - 04:55 PM

ooohh..subtle, Giok! It shows a devious mind...of which I heartily approve.


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Big Mick
Date: 03 Nov 05 - 06:30 PM

Mary LaMarca, m'love, I want in that workshop. Want to co lead it?

All the best,

Mick


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Bat Goddess
Date: 03 Nov 05 - 06:34 PM

Damn it! "Patches" is mine! It's already been debuted (with cittern accompaniment) at The Press Room. (And full scholarly introduction.)

;-)

Linn


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Allan C.
Date: 03 Nov 05 - 06:42 PM

Okay, BG, I'll go for "Cherry Pie" instead.

Oh, and that reminds me...


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From: Bobert
Date: 03 Nov 05 - 06:46 PM

Thatnks, Tinker fir the link...

Over at Tweedsblues we've had discussions about the links betweern rap and blues... That's kinda what got me curious about dopin' a song that contained elements of both... So when my rapper son, Will-to-me, Ben-to-everyone-else-in-the-world, came to visit this summer I was determined to see if we could pull it off and mix the two into a single song....

And it worked and folks in downtown Luray, who still ain't used to my foot-stomp hill country Mississippi blues got a lot to think about... But Will did a fine job and had has hands paintin' piccures and all I was tryin' to do was just hold a beat without really playin' nuthin' on the steel bodied resonator and the boy just went into it and then when he was done I used a little trickery to get it back into something 12 bar...

I think just havin' him do kinda a an impromptu improvisonal rap last nmight here in the Catbox was real cool of him since, hey, he is a youngin' and he thinks that we're all old, gray and drivin' Oldmosbiles...

Well, two outta three ain't half bad...

Bobert


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Ebbie
Date: 03 Nov 05 - 06:57 PM

I'd be right proud of my boy, Bobert. Or my daughter, as the case would be in my case.


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From: Allan C.
Date: 03 Nov 05 - 07:00 PM

I hope that Bobert and everyone else has an opportunity to hear Guy Davis and his son do "Uncle Tom's Dead" from Guy's "Legacy" CD. It is a great blend of blues and rap. You can hear a snatch of it here.


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: jacqui.c
Date: 03 Nov 05 - 07:03 PM

I've got a tambourine with a solid surface......

A sort of bodrine!


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From: kendall
Date: 03 Nov 05 - 08:40 PM

Rap is to poetry what graffiti is to literature.


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From: Bobert
Date: 03 Nov 05 - 10:11 PM

Kendall, Kendall, Kendall...

What am I gonna do with you???

Yeah, a few years ago I woulda had to agreed wid ya then my son, Will-to-me, Ben-to-you, kinda pulled up my appreciation fir *some* of it...

I'll tell ya what, this summer when he and I performed our rap/blues stuff therer were a lot of folks who ahd never heard any rap they liked that came away with a new perspective... Depends on the artist...

Kinda like story tellin'... Some folks can tell 'um, others can't (but try)... You can tell 'um, Hey, I cna play some decent blues but I couldn't tell no stories... Justin Wilson could tell 'um... Hey, sometimes ya' just have to hear the story told by a story teller...

My son is a rap artist and ain't into talin' 'bout bitches 'er killin' cops...

Ithink if you go back and read what he put together in a very short time to say to us here in Mudville, I think as a stroy teller, ya might come back with just a little, maybe very little, respect fir what he is able to do on the wing...

All about stories...

Bobert


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: SINSULL
Date: 03 Nov 05 - 11:15 PM

I am forming a Sad Tales Doo Wop list:

Patches
Honey (GAGGGG)
Tell Laura I Love Her
Running Bear
Teen Angel
Take A Message To Mary
Ebony Eyes
Get A Job (Sonnanonnan Sonnanonnanon)
Yakkity Yak
Desiree (sigh...)
Tears On My Pillow
Teardrops (Great Harmonies!)
Teenager In Love
Crying In The Chapel
Tragedy

etc,,,,,,,,,


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: jacqui.c
Date: 03 Nov 05 - 11:19 PM

Mary - when do we start practising. I can do tamborine accompaniment.


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From: SINSULL
Date: 03 Nov 05 - 11:42 PM

Hell NO! I have the tambourine. You can bang on that silly excuse you have for a drum! Or on Kendall, if you prefer.


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Ferrara
Date: 04 Nov 05 - 12:52 AM

Well Mary, something odd has happened to me this year, I seem to be having an attack of Getting Organized and have been keeping a file of workshop suggestions for next year's Getaway.

Now, if I can remember to get it to whoever does the program (who, me? work on the program again? no way, she says for maybe the fourth time...) maybe we can actually set up the Guilty Pleasures workshop, which I now remember you mentioned previously. (I can too remember things, as long as either [a] someone reminds me twice, or [b] it's at least 2 days too late to do anything about it.)

Also, Dick Greenhaus said he wants to do Songs from the Shower next year. He said it's the quintessential Getaway workshop.... Well, maybe. It's a darned good idea anyway, and we haven't done it for a long time.


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From: Dani
Date: 04 Nov 05 - 07:55 AM

Count me in! Shower singing is what EVERYONE does best.

When Elizabeth LaPrelle performed at the James Pharmacy here last year, she had the house spellbound, as you can imagine. But what REALLY brought the house down was the doo-wop duet she and her mom did as an encore. It was the icing on the cake!

And, I love the conversation around rap. As with any music/art form, there is garbage, and there is true genius. I remember being captivated by something on the radio that was both extremely smart, and at the same time pretty offensive. The smart part made me want to hear more, and understand more. You might imagine my children's faces when I described the piece to them. "MOM LIKES EMINEM!" Well, not exactly, but there's plenty that's worth exploring if you're willing to step outside your comfort zone and see into the lives of 'others'.

If you can't shift gears, you're destined to crash and burn. In music as in life.

Dani


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: jacqui.c
Date: 04 Nov 05 - 08:11 AM

Dani - I have had the same experience.

A friend got me to listed to an EMINEM disc and, while I really do not like the way it is put across the guy does have something relevant to say.


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From: ranger1
Date: 04 Nov 05 - 08:35 AM

Bobert, I think your boy's a genius. Anyone that can put something like that together in a short space of time has my respect.


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From: Amos
Date: 04 Nov 05 - 08:36 AM

How many people can you fit in one shower, though? Or do you have a bank of them lined up for this? Do the performers have to actually be showering while they sing? This is making me nervous... lol



A


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: GUEST
Date: 04 Nov 05 - 10:28 AM

You have the statistician with you. She'll keep track of it all I'm sure.


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Ebbie
Date: 04 Nov 05 - 10:29 AM

I can admit that I listened to L.L.Cool once through one whole 'song'- and I liked the spirit of the guy.

Still can't quite get my head around the image of a nostalgic family a generation from now gathering around the library table doing carp. :)


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From: MMario
Date: 04 Nov 05 - 10:40 AM

well - look at the way TV theme songs and jingles have crept their way into campsongs etc.


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: kendall
Date: 04 Nov 05 - 10:50 AM

What will the kids of today be singing in 50 years? Can't you just picture them all arounf the old upright synthiser, trying to remember two words from Twisted Sister?


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: ranger1
Date: 04 Nov 05 - 10:52 AM

Ok, Kendall, quote your sources! I KNOW where that line came from!


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: ranger1
Date: 04 Nov 05 - 10:54 AM

And the rest of it goes "or the words to "Love Stinks"?"


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 04 Nov 05 - 11:04 AM

There was F-all singing in the shower in cabin 19/20 this year!! No damn hot water!!!!!!!!!!!!
Giok


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Janie
Date: 04 Nov 05 - 11:10 AM

Yeh, Kendall. Not quite the same as gathered around the old guitar singing "I Just Don't Look Good Naked Any More" ;O)

Janie


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: skarpi
Date: 04 Nov 05 - 03:24 PM

I back you up on the " no hot Water " Giok "
All the best Skarpi Iceland.


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Amos
Date: 04 Nov 05 - 03:55 PM

I had hot water, and I took a shower. But there was no-one there to hear me sing, or to sing to me. I guess it was the weird hours, eh?


A


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Ferrara
Date: 04 Nov 05 - 04:04 PM

That's "Songs From the Shower," not "Songs in the Shower, Amos!

In about 1956, I was playing "oldies" for a friend's mother and we were singing duets. (The only one I specifically remember, because it was new to me, was "It's a Sin to Tell a Lie.") She said to me, "We think of these songs as classics, but I bet in 20 years or so, the rock and roll songs that you kids are dancing to will be considered classics." A wise lady.


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: MMario
Date: 04 Nov 05 - 04:09 PM

I had hot water and I showered - but when you shower approx two hours after the others in your cabin went to sleep - you don't sing if ou want to live.


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Dani
Date: 04 Nov 05 - 04:28 PM

Last year when there was no hot water, I sang like a bird. Or screeched. This year, we had hot water. Does that have something to do with the fact that they finally segregated us by gender? No guys, now we got hot water and working shower curtains? Hmmmm....

Dani


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Charlie Baum
Date: 04 Nov 05 - 04:37 PM

Amos--We have a large wheelchair-accessible shower at home, and I've had six of us in there simultaneously (fully clothed) singing Balkan songs.


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Bill D
Date: 04 Nov 05 - 05:32 PM

"Songs from the Shower" was one of a number of titles for a series..(0h, 20 or so years) of workshops 'led' by our own Jonathan Eberhart, who loved to wheedle out of folks the songs they used to know and/or sing, in the shower, while washing dishes, as kids riding the back seat...etc. They ranged from kids playground songs to commercials to bits of ballads with strange twists...to silly parodies unique to YOUR family. Jon had a way of making this exercise a bit different every time it was done and it was always ummmmm...'interesting', if not exactly traditional in the purist sense.

   I went to a few of them, always had fun, and didn't ruin my status as a "purist snob" TOO badly! No doubt we could do something with the concept again, whether as part of "Do-wop" or as a general catch-all like Jon did it, though not with his panaché...it's an idea, and we have 11 months or so to ponder....

(remember, at the new camp we are promised hot showers, heated cabins, and shorter, level walks next year! I hope that doesn't lull everyone into dull, conservative complacency....fat chance, huh?)


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Amos
Date: 04 Nov 05 - 05:48 PM

I get complacent about being enthusiastic and a bit wild around the edges. I like it that way and I intend to preserve the dynamic, volatile status quo!! LOL


A


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 04 Nov 05 - 07:07 PM

MMario I am in Owego and I can hear you singing in the shower up north there in the Finger Lakes, from here!!
Giok :~)


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: kendall
Date: 04 Nov 05 - 10:11 PM

I try to stay just on the giddy side of morose...


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Amos
Date: 04 Nov 05 - 11:17 PM

Dang, SKipper -- I wish I'd said that!! LOL!! But now, never mind, I will.... :D


A


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Charlie Baum
Date: 09 Nov 05 - 06:14 PM

Getaway Attendee Directories

Anyone who was at the Getaway and didn't get a copy of the attendees list--I've run off a few copies. PM me (or e-mail e at special (at-sign) fsgw.org, and I can mail you a copy of the list. (It's a hardcopy, and I'll send it by post to the address you registered with, unless otherwise instructed.) Sorry, offer limited to Getaway attendees only.

--Charlie Baum


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: InOBU
Date: 09 Nov 05 - 06:37 PM

Mudcatters on Flickr's Mudcat group... check your Flickr mail... important. Also there is a new Inobu song - the Killers of Eden, a song about Killer Whales... this is not thread creep mind you, I'll sing this at the next gathering I can get to... :)
lor


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: kendall
Date: 09 Nov 05 - 09:18 PM

Charlie, what was the number of attendees at the Getaway?


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: KT
Date: 09 Nov 05 - 11:47 PM

lor, you are amazing! you just keep cranking those songs out, don't you? Good on ya!!!

KT


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Charlie Baum
Date: 10 Nov 05 - 12:14 AM

We had about 170-175 attendees at this year's Getaway. (Number approximate because some folks [like Max] never registered, and there were one or two no-shows.) Previous years recently have only gotten to the 130-140 range.

--Charlie Baum


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: kendall
Date: 10 Nov 05 - 04:24 PM

Thanks, just curious.


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: jacqui.c
Date: 12 Nov 05 - 12:05 AM

I've just added some more photos to the Flickr link http://www.flickr.com/groups/49407444@N00/pool/


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: jacqui.c
Date: 12 Nov 05 - 12:06 AM

One of these days I'll get the hang of the clickies!


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Peace
Date: 12 Nov 05 - 12:12 AM

http://www.flickr.com/groups/49407444@N00/pool/


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From: jacqui.c
Date: 12 Nov 05 - 08:44 AM

Thanks Brucie.


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: KT
Date: 15 Nov 05 - 03:21 AM

Nice pics, Jacqui!

I've been listening to the Getaway recordings made by Ebbie. What a delight to once again, hear the voices of the Getaway goers! Today, as I was driving to work, Micca was entertaining me with his version of (I think it's called ) "Just the Way You look Tonight." I was in the car by myself laughing hysterically! I got more than a few odd looks from other drivers. Definitely one of those, "had to be there" times.   Makes me so happy to hear it all again, and grateful to have been a part of it! Thanks so much Ebbie!!

KT


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: SINSULL
Date: 15 Nov 05 - 12:00 PM

Just remembered Jimmyt, the thong designing dentist. Never expected such a gentle, shy man. Another Mudcat moment.


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Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Bill D
Date: 15 Nov 05 - 12:13 PM

"Thongs for the Memories"


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