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BS: Last Chance for the Aussies?

Lowden Jameswright 06 Sep 05 - 07:09 AM
GUEST,Jon 06 Sep 05 - 07:21 AM
MBSLynne 06 Sep 05 - 07:28 AM
Tam the man 06 Sep 05 - 07:41 AM
John MacKenzie 06 Sep 05 - 07:42 AM
GUEST,Jon 06 Sep 05 - 08:12 AM
Tam the man 06 Sep 05 - 08:36 AM
Lowden Jameswright 06 Sep 05 - 08:52 AM
GUEST,Jon 06 Sep 05 - 09:01 AM
John MacKenzie 06 Sep 05 - 09:02 AM
gnomad 06 Sep 05 - 09:14 AM
MBSLynne 06 Sep 05 - 09:19 AM
Lowden Jameswright 06 Sep 05 - 11:10 AM
John MacKenzie 06 Sep 05 - 11:18 AM
Tam the man 06 Sep 05 - 12:03 PM
Strollin' Johnny 06 Sep 05 - 12:18 PM
Tam the man 06 Sep 05 - 12:35 PM
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Alan Day 06 Sep 05 - 01:06 PM
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Subject: BS: Last Chance for the Aussies?
From: Lowden Jameswright
Date: 06 Sep 05 - 07:09 AM

Does anyone think the Aussies can pull off the great escape in the last (chance saloon) Test?

England have dominated the series, yet still did their level best to let the Aussies in throuh the back door. Vaughan's crazy decision to enforce the follow-on gave Warne & Co a sniff of a chance - another 20 runs or so and I think they would have won it.

If the Aussie's win the toss (and Ponting doesn't suffer another "Captain Madcap" moment) can they do it?


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Subject: RE: BS: Last Chance for the Aussies?
From: GUEST,Jon
Date: 06 Sep 05 - 07:21 AM

Well I must admit at the time, I thought Vaughan's decision was the right one...

As for the Aussies, yes they can do it but so can England.


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Subject: RE: BS: Last Chance for the Aussies?
From: MBSLynne
Date: 06 Sep 05 - 07:28 AM

Oh yes...now we have you thinking you'll cruise it...this is where we come in and thrash the pants off you!!! Hahahahahahahahaah!!


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Subject: RE: BS: Last Chance for the Aussies?
From: Tam the man
Date: 06 Sep 05 - 07:41 AM

NOT AGAIN PLEASE YOU ARE BORING THE ARSES OF PEOPLE WITH THIS BLOODY CRICKET. I JUST WISH THE BEST TEAM WINS.

AUSSIE/ENGALND

TAM FRAE SCOTLAND


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Subject: RE: BS: Last Chance for the Aussies?
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 06 Sep 05 - 07:42 AM

You've got to use that metaphor haven't you Lynne?
Giok ¦¬]


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Subject: RE: BS: Last Chance for the Aussies?
From: GUEST,Jon
Date: 06 Sep 05 - 08:12 AM

Simon Jones is out which is a bit of a blow.


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Subject: RE: BS: Last Chance for the Aussies?
From: Tam the man
Date: 06 Sep 05 - 08:36 AM

I'll be glad when this shite is all over, not only me but a number of people, I mean there a people in Scotland, Wales and Northern Ierland that couldn't give a shit about Cricket, so why do you all shut up about this very boring game.

And leave the rest of the people in peace.

Tam frae Scotland.

PS
Scotland have never being beating by the Aussie this year.


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Subject: RE: BS: Last Chance for the Aussies?
From: Lowden Jameswright
Date: 06 Sep 05 - 08:52 AM

Scotland - Ah yes - endless bloody roads, villages without pubs; grey houses......
Don't talk to me about boring, I've been to Scotland


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Subject: RE: BS: Last Chance for the Aussies?
From: GUEST,Jon
Date: 06 Sep 05 - 09:01 AM

Tam, although the team is called England, the ECB is the England and Wales cricket board. Simon Jones, the player I moaned is out for the next game is Welsh.

England has been captained by a Scotsman (Mike Denness) and a Welshman (Tony Lewis).


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Subject: RE: BS: Last Chance for the Aussies?
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 06 Sep 05 - 09:02 AM

Ah Tam it'easy to see you don't like the proper 'beautiful game' I heard an interview with Jimmy Reid who was one of the leaders of the upper Clyde shipbuilders strike, eulogising about cricket in a broad Glasgow accent. Did you know that a lot of cricket is played in Scotland and a vilage called Freuchie won the UK Village Cricket cup in 1985.Anybody who is deaf to the charms of TMS and the asides of Henry Blofeld an Bill Frindle has missed one of lifes great events.
Giok {From even further north than you} ¦¬]


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Subject: RE: BS: Last Chance for the Aussies?
From: gnomad
Date: 06 Sep 05 - 09:14 AM

Tam is right that there are a number of civilised folk even in England who would undergo considerable inconvenience, pain even, rather than have aught to do with cricket.

Kinda makes you wonder why Tam (or I) bothered to open the thread at all.

With me it's just natural perversity, you Tam?


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Subject: RE: BS: Last Chance for the Aussies?
From: MBSLynne
Date: 06 Sep 05 - 09:19 AM

Interesting though, how often you seem to be opening and reading the thread Tam. I wonder who is forcing you to do that? I find a lot of the US politics threads boring, so I've found a really clever way to avoid being bored by them....I   DON'T   READ   THEM!

Love Lynne


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Subject: RE: BS: Last Chance for the Aussies?
From: Lowden Jameswright
Date: 06 Sep 05 - 11:10 AM

Cricket IS the beautiful game. It's so sad that folks who haven't a clue what it's about trot out the old chestnut "It's boring".

Boredom is what exists between a couple of ears that fail to listen and learn, and behind a couple of eyes that look but don't see. It's a pathetic excuse for ignorance and apathy.

Lighten up - look, listen, learn, and live a more enlightened existence, and (likely as not) live longer......

Now, Baseball, on the other hand.....


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Subject: RE: BS: Last Chance for the Aussies?
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 06 Sep 05 - 11:18 AM

You mean American Rounders LJ?
G..


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Subject: RE: BS: Last Chance for the Aussies?
From: Tam the man
Date: 06 Sep 05 - 12:03 PM

I mean any sport that last for 5 days, two teams wear the same uniform, the scores at the end is different and yet they call it a draw. Mind you I find Football (soccer) boring as well, I like games like Rugby and cycling, which you see really good injuries but with cricket it starts at 11am and ends either 6 or 7 or when it's their bedtime.

Tam
I don't think that I'm in a minorty well I hope not.

But the world would be boring if we all did the same things wouldn't it.

Tam frae Scotland.


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Subject: RE: BS: Last Chance for the Aussies?
From: Strollin' Johnny
Date: 06 Sep 05 - 12:18 PM

Cricket's boring eh, Tam? It's shite is it? And this from a native of a country whose national sports involve either:-

a) Hitting a tiny white ball with a stick until it disappears, then walking around looking for it, and repeating the operation seventy or eighty times. Boring. Shite.

b) sliding a big flat stone down a sheet of ice and sweeping in front of it until it stops. Now that shite truly is F***ING BORING!
S:0)


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Subject: RE: BS: Last Chance for the Aussies?
From: Tam the man
Date: 06 Sep 05 - 12:35 PM

I'M NOT THE ONLY ONE however I said I just don't like cricket, at least golf and curling keeps you fit, at cricket the 'players' are standing most of time, doing nothing. The bowler jsut runs up and the batsman just stands there looking stupid, and he then moves forward and then lifts his bat up and the ball go thorugh to the wicket keeper, and you lot get excited about this.

But as I said what a boring place the world would be if we all liked to the same things, and anyway can you lot not take a joke.

Tam frae Scotland


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Subject: RE: BS: Last Chance for the Aussies?
From: GUEST,Ooh-Aah2
Date: 06 Sep 05 - 12:41 PM

Anyone who STILL bleats that cricket - draws and all is boring after this series needs to be taken off and quietly knocked on the head. Either they have the intelligence of a newt or else they have an inferior concentration span. What's 5 days?

I hope so much that England win - as an Englishman living in Australia I can tell you that the braying of delight from the Australians will be quite dreadful - the fact that they will get a draw in the series at best, and that they were all sure of a 5/0 whitewash to Australia before the series will be quite forgotten!


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Subject: RE: BS: Last Chance for the Aussies?
From: Alan Day
Date: 06 Sep 05 - 01:06 PM

Looking at the weather conditions it looks as though a draw is the likely result.
Al


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Subject: RE: BS: Last Chance for the Aussies?
From: Tam the man
Date: 06 Sep 05 - 01:39 PM

in Scotland and Northern Ireland cricket isn't that popular unlike England, and there is only one real team is wales.

but you lot just can't take jokes, I couldn't give a shit about cricket and so can another 5 million Scots.

Tam

I was just trying to raise a laugh, but you lot have the sense of humour of a dead cricketer, so I hope all enjoy the 'game' and then get a life.


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Subject: RE: BS: Last Chance for the Aussies?
From: Tam the man
Date: 06 Sep 05 - 01:40 PM

I like ALan day, he's the one that is smart.


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Subject: RE: BS: Last Chance for the Aussies?
From: Tam the man
Date: 06 Sep 05 - 01:51 PM

Now before you jump down my throat, I'm only joking, kidding on, however if I have upset anyone then I'm sorry let's agree to diagree ok.


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Subject: RE: BS: Last Chance for the Aussies?
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 06 Sep 05 - 06:41 PM

I generally like to back the underdog. But I'm confused which side that would be this time...


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Subject: RE: BS: Last Chance for the Aussies?
From: John O'L
Date: 06 Sep 05 - 10:37 PM

I think Australia must qualify for underdog status since they have been outplayed for most of the series, only able to hang on through pure bloodymindedness, but having said that, I have grown accustomed to seeing them come back from the brink of disaster and take the win.
I can't help thinking that they will do it again, but I also have this nagging feeling that perhaps the time has come for England to return.

The short answer: Dunno


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Subject: RE: BS: Last Chance for the Aussies?
From: John O'L
Date: 07 Sep 05 - 02:51 AM

One thing for sure though - This is the best chance England have had for a long time and the only chance the're likely to get for another long time if they miss it.

But they only need to draw. Australia need to win.

Be aware that we will be witnessing a rare and exciting moment in cricket history.


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Subject: RE: BS: Last Chance for the Aussies?
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 07 Sep 05 - 03:00 AM

He wishes for the cloths of heaven

Had I the heavens' embroidered cloths,
Enwrought with golden and silver light,
The blue and the dim and the dark cloths
Of night and light and the half-light,
I would spread the cloths under your feet:
But I, being poor, have only my dreams;
I have spread my dreams under your feet;
Tread softly, because you tread on my dreams.

        -- William Butler Yeats

It's the last line that is pertinant here Tam, cricket lovers are passionate people.
I'm not upset that you don't like cricket,I do though take issue with your sweeping statement including 5 million of our fellow countrymen in your argument though.
Giok


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Subject: RE: BS: Last Chance for the Aussies?
From: Tam the man
Date: 07 Sep 05 - 06:58 AM

well I'm going on hoilday to Aussie, to visted my family there, and they are a mixter of Scots/English and Australian, we just have a carry on about England, because we just do it for a laugh, I don't really mean all that stuff about the English. But as I say there are some people who just can't take a joke.

I just hope the best team wins that's all


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Subject: RE: BS: Last Chance for the Aussies?
From: Paul Burke
Date: 07 Sep 05 - 07:01 AM

If the wild bowler thinks he bowls,
Or if the batsman thinks he's bowled,
They know not, poor benighted souls;
They too shall perish unconsoled.

I am the batsman, and the bat;
I am the bowler, and the ball,
The umpire, the pavilion cat,
The roller, pitch, and stumps, and all.


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Subject: RE: BS: Last Chance for the Aussies?
From: Tam the man
Date: 07 Sep 05 - 07:08 AM

is it poerty now, I thought it was about cricket


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Subject: RE: BS: Last Chance for the Aussies?
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 07 Sep 05 - 07:11 AM

But cricket at its' best IS poetry Tam.
G..


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Subject: RE: BS: Last Chance for the Aussies?
From: GUEST
Date: 07 Sep 05 - 07:12 AM

I'm praying for 5 days of rain and the forecast looks like plenty of rain to come :-)


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Subject: RE: BS: Last Chance for the Aussies?
From: Tam the man
Date: 07 Sep 05 - 07:20 AM

is it? I mean seeing a fat Aussie (Warne) smoking a fag and then saying he's a sportsman. I mean if that's poetry, then OK it is.

But mind you I like the one day cricket because it's fast.


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Subject: RE: BS: Last Chance for the Aussies?
From: GUEST
Date: 07 Sep 05 - 07:26 AM

comm on aussie comm on comm on .the song will be sung again
we got warnie we got mcgrath


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Subject: RE: BS: Last Chance for the Aussies?
From: Tam the man
Date: 07 Sep 05 - 07:32 AM

COME ON AUSSIE COME ON I just love that song, well that part of the chorus, somhow I don't think the English would like it.

please remember that they won the world cup in 1966, and they will bot let the world forget it, mind you in 1967 Scotland were the unoffical World champions, and in 2004 Ireland were the unoffical world champions at rugby union, it's sad that the Englsih don't talk about that isn't it.

But I just hope the BEST team wins


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Subject: RE: BS: Last Chance for the Aussies?
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 07 Sep 05 - 07:53 AM

I, as an Aussie, refuse to comment on this thread!

Oh...


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Subject: RE: BS: Last Chance for the Aussies?
From: Lowden Jameswright
Date: 07 Sep 05 - 07:59 AM

Fat he may be, and a smoker and serial philanderer etc etc... but he's the finest bowler of all time and a great character. I shall miss him desperately when he retires, but it will be some consolation that England will probably dominate the game for 10 years unless the Aussies manage to conjure up a clone.

For the life of me I can't understand why every youngster in the land isn't trying to copy that wristy magic of his. I was a half-decent medium pacer back in the 60's and remember trying to bowl leg spin out of the back of my hand during friendly games. The only danger I managed to inflict with this action was to spectators and fielders.

Warney - we love you mate - but for Christ's sake have a bad day or two in your last UK ashes match (especially if we have to bat 1st)


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Subject: RE: BS: Last Chance for the Aussies?
From: Lowden Jameswright
Date: 07 Sep 05 - 08:01 AM

Ooops - sorry - for "bat 1st" read LAST!


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Subject: RE: BS: Last Chance for the Aussies?
From: muppett
Date: 07 Sep 05 - 08:18 AM

Who do you reckon should replace Jones then, Collingwood or Anderson, tricky, I think my vote would go to Collingwood for his all round ability.


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Subject: RE: BS: Last Chance for the Aussies?
From: GUEST,Jon
Date: 07 Sep 05 - 08:24 AM

If Anderson was on top form, I'd pick him. I'm not sure from the snippets I've read that he is though.


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Subject: RE: BS: Last Chance for the Aussies?
From: GUEST
Date: 07 Sep 05 - 12:30 PM

"For the life of me I can't understand why every youngster in the land isn't trying to copy that wristy magic of his"

all teenage boys are desparately trying it in the privacy of their bedrooms :-)


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Subject: RE: BS: Last Chance for the Aussies?
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 07 Sep 05 - 02:59 PM

If I was betting I think I'd put my money on Australia. And not just because they've a McGrath in the squad.

Which would mean that I'm seeing England as the underdog, so I really should want them to win. (But if they play for a draw that's a different matter. Any side playing for a draw deserves to lose.)
.............................

Anyway I gather everyone all over England is supposed to sing Jeruslame at 10.25 on Thursday for the start of the match. But noone has said what key it is supposed to be sung in. Any suggestions there?

Actually I have a feeling that Jerusalem and Waltzing Matilda wouldn't work quite well as tune and countermelody, with a bit of tactful timing. But perhaps tactful timing mightn't be the order of the day.


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Subject: RE: BS: Last Chance for the Aussies?
From: GUEST
Date: 08 Sep 05 - 03:29 AM

yer gotta win something your no bloody good at soccer


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Subject: RE: BS: Last Chance for the Aussies?
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 08 Sep 05 - 03:57 AM

On dodgy ground there Tam mentioning football, you only need to remember Ali's Army as far as Scotlands abysmal attempts at the World Cup is concerned.
As for the cricket, I have this deep dread that England will be looking for a witch doctor to drum up some rain before this last test is out, they do after all make a bit of a specialty of snatching defeat from the jaws of victory. I would be happy to be proved wrong though.
Giok


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Subject: RE: BS: Last Chance for the Aussies?
From: RobbieWilson
Date: 08 Sep 05 - 04:32 AM

Tam, I'm with Giok in that you can count me out of your 5 million. I got my love of cricket from my dad who, like Jimmy Reid was a shipbuilder on the Clyde.

I have loved this series and especially watching Shane Warne, undoubtedly one of the most talented and conbative sportsmen I have ever seen in any sport.

The crowing about how dominant England have been has really amused me. They are one win ahead on the strength of a batsman being wrongly given out when Oz were only two runs short of victory. They almost gave away the win in the 4th test and the draw in the 3rd.

I watched the final session of the fourth test in a pub at Bridgnorth festival with locals and fokies and as always as a Scot in England I took a lot of stick. I will be watching this one at Bromyard and will of course be rooting for Australia in order to avoid this.


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Subject: RE: BS: Last Chance for the Aussies?
From: GUEST,Old sore ribs.
Date: 08 Sep 05 - 04:47 AM

Northern Ireland 1 England 0, last nights defeat has to be the greatest humiliation from the United States 1-0 victory in the 1950 World Cup, some incentive for the willow whackers, pardon me while I laugh, ha-ha-ha-ha, etc, Old sore ribs.


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Subject: RE: BS: Last Chance for the Aussies?
From: GUEST,Jim
Date: 08 Sep 05 - 05:15 AM

WON THE TOSS!!!!!!!!!!!
Last chance for the Aussies almost gone!


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Subject: RE: BS: Last Chance for the Aussies?
From: Lowden Jameswright
Date: 08 Sep 05 - 06:23 AM

50 in 50 minutes, for none. Poor bowling - Hope fading for the Oz


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Subject: RE: BS: Last Chance for the Aussies?
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 08 Sep 05 - 06:25 AM

57 for none now..... is that good?

LTS - lifelong cricket hater, despite spending several years trying to understand it....


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Subject: RE: BS: Last Chance for the Aussies?
From: John O'L
Date: 08 Sep 05 - 06:35 AM

Warnie has come on in the first hour of day one.

Dire.


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Subject: RE: BS: Last Chance for the Aussies?
From: Lowden Jameswright
Date: 08 Sep 05 - 06:56 AM

..... and the great man has done it again ... hang on to your hats folks!


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