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GUEST,catsphiddle@work 13 Jul 05 - 09:31 AM
GUEST,Rapaire 13 Jul 05 - 09:21 AM
Stephen L. Rich 13 Jul 05 - 01:03 AM
GUEST,B. 13 Jul 05 - 12:02 AM
GUEST,MMario 12 Jul 05 - 04:10 PM
Mrs.Duck 12 Jul 05 - 04:05 PM
Rapparee 12 Jul 05 - 03:56 PM
Clinton Hammond 12 Jul 05 - 03:29 PM
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Wesley S 12 Jul 05 - 03:12 PM
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Charmion 12 Jul 05 - 02:17 PM
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Subject: RE: BS: Harry Potter:
From: GUEST,catsphiddle@work
Date: 13 Jul 05 - 09:31 AM

I've pre-ordered my copy through Amazon so I will get it the day it is released.


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Subject: RE: BS: Harry Potter:
From: GUEST,Rapaire
Date: 13 Jul 05 - 09:21 AM

Ah, but I said that they read to their level. This includes their interest level. Jackie Collins stuff might be readable for a third grader (US school level), but I don't think that there are many third graders who would be interested. On the other hand, I have a 10 year old nephew who has read (himself!) all of the HP books and has enjoyed them; he eagerly awaits the next one. If he doesn't understand it, he told me that he either asks his mom ("Dad would make something up, like you do") or he will "skip over it, especially if it's mushy stuff."

That said -- I really have to applaud, both personally and professionally, anyone who takes the time (and cares enough) to watch what their kids are reading (or watching, or listening to, or doing).


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Subject: RE: BS: Harry Potter:
From: Stephen L. Rich
Date: 13 Jul 05 - 01:03 AM

I rather like the Harry Potter books. I'm looking forward to the next one, "Harry Potter and the Hairy Pot".


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Subject: RE: BS: Harry Potter:
From: GUEST,B.
Date: 13 Jul 05 - 12:02 AM

>>The part of this that I find so satisfying is that the big publisher that got the American rights to the book is Scholastic,..<<

Except for their habit of dumbing down books in translation, for fear that Americans won't buy their kids a book with the word "Philosopher" in the title ;-)


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Subject: RE: BS: Harry Potter:
From: GUEST,MMario
Date: 12 Jul 05 - 04:10 PM

I have heard it said that basically each book SHOULD have been marketed to the age that Harry is in the book - unfortunately - they have all been marketed to the younger group.


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Subject: RE: BS: Harry Potter:
From: Mrs.Duck
Date: 12 Jul 05 - 04:05 PM

Not really Rapaire afterall Jackie Collins is probably an easier read but I wouldn't allow my kids to read her. My point is that the HP books have been marketed at a younger audience and the first book was a much more child friendly story line but as they have progressed they have become much darker. Spin off toys are aimed at the 5 to 10 age group but I don't think children that young should be reading the books. And yes I HAVE stopped mine from reading them until old enough.


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Subject: RE: BS: Harry Potter:
From: Rapparee
Date: 12 Jul 05 - 03:56 PM

JK Rowling has never said that the books were for young people. That was assumed, and might well be an incorrect assumption.

As for kids reading them -- try to stop them. But...kids will read to their level, not to whatever we think is their level. Ergo, those who can read the books will do so and the others will not.


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Subject: RE: BS: Harry Potter:
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 12 Jul 05 - 03:29 PM

"Sadly I think the stories are inappropriate for the young audience"

Really?

wow


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Subject: RE: BS: Harry Potter:
From: Mrs.Duck
Date: 12 Jul 05 - 03:28 PM

Like Clinton I will buy the book when it is reduced and will probably enjoy reading it although I would never accuse it of being good writing. Sadly I think the stories are inappropriate for the young audience that do read them and would not allow my children to read them until they were at least ten.


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Subject: RE: BS: Harry Potter:
From: Wesley S
Date: 12 Jul 05 - 03:12 PM

So who would be "He who must not be named" ? Tony Blair ?


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Subject: RE: BS: Harry Potter:
From: Rapparee
Date: 12 Jul 05 - 03:03 PM

In the last volume Harry awakens and discovers that he's been dreaming and that he's really an extremely bored accountant in a mid-sized firm dealing in plumbing fixtures. Hermione is his ex-wife and this weekend is his turn to take care of the four kids, Ron Weasley is his duck hunting/beer drinking buddy who works for the city driving a garbage truck, and Cho Chang is a waitress at their favorite watering hole. Malfoy is the owner of the firm Potter works for, Crabbe and Goyle are two extremely incompetent co-workers.

The half-blood prince, of course, is Potter's half-Airedale, half-dachshund dog, whose full name is Prince Of Piddles.


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Subject: RE: BS: Harry Potter:
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 12 Jul 05 - 02:55 PM

The marketplace has always had popular books to sell, but I think the juxtaposition of the films, the ability to discuss the books openly on the Internet, the cosplay clubs, and various and sundry other off-shoot products make it big.

The part of this that I find so satisfying is that the big publisher that got the American rights to the book is Scholastic, not Random House or Harper or Viking or who knows who any more. Scholastic has been out there in the marketplace selling good quality books to school children for decades, and the fact that they had the savvy to pick up the rights to this book means more power to them in their good work.

The university library where I work is doing a special event on the 14th, leading up to the release. We're really not sure what to expect participation-wise. It could be the usual campus event, when students and faculty are attracted as much by the free food as by the activity. But it could also have a lot of interest due to the popularity of cosplay and the costume contest they're running that afternoon. It might be a great photo op!

SRS


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Subject: RE: BS: Harry Potter:
From: s6k
Date: 12 Jul 05 - 02:45 PM

Of course you realise the ultimate book in the series will be Harry Potter meets Penn and Teller - and they tell him how its all done, so he gets disillusioned and goes into a career where bitterness and disillusion stand him him in good stead - like folksinging.....

LMAO!!!!! LOL!!!!!!!!! THE FUNNIEST THING IVE READ THIS MONTH!!!! nice one weelittledrummer

how about Harry Potter and the Masked Magician !!!


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Subject: RE: BS: Harry Potter:
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 12 Jul 05 - 02:21 PM

Cause I find that her books are sliding downhill the more she writes, and also, experience has taught me that if something is this hyped before it's release (be it movie, book, music, whatever) then it's probably trying to over-compensate for something....

I'll buy it, sure (When Costco has the hardcovers on sale)... but at this point I don't have very high hopes...


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Subject: RE: BS: Harry Potter:
From: Charmion
Date: 12 Jul 05 - 02:17 PM

Oh, phooey, ClintonH, you have know way of knowing whether it's good or not -- and neither does anyone else until Saturday. Why not give it the benefit of the doubt?


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Subject: RE: BS: Harry Potter:
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 12 Jul 05 - 01:40 PM

It's just a book... and I suspect from the hype, not a very good book at that...


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Subject: RE: BS: Harry Potter:
From: Wesley S
Date: 12 Jul 05 - 01:20 PM

Considering that the author was a single mother on welfare when she wrote the first book - then more power to her. Now she's the best selling fiction author of all time. I can't begrudge her making a lot of money with her ideas. Behind the large corporations there is a woman - JK Rowling - who writes some very good stories.

The plot- the story - IS the product. Why shouldn't they try to protect it ?


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Subject: RE: BS: Harry Potter:
From: jacqui.c
Date: 12 Jul 05 - 01:09 PM

Comes down to large corporations and money every time. People will buy the books anyway, even if the plot is disclosed, but the hype helps sell more books and that makes money for the big boys.

I'm going to wait until they bring out the seven book collection - my grandchildren are too young for them at the moment and I shall look for a friend who buys 6 and borrow.


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Subject: RE: BS: Harry Potter:
From: GUEST,MMario
Date: 12 Jul 05 - 01:02 PM

yes guest - I have read them. However you are twisting my words. I think the marketing campaign, and court injunctions against disclosure of the plot - and the whole media hype is silliness.

Personally I think the books are good enough to sell well without ANY publicity -

I never said anything about the quality of her work. But face it - there are any number of good children's authors out there. If it hadn't been the Potter books another series might have had the same success.


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Subject: RE: BS: Harry Potter:
From: Wesley S
Date: 12 Jul 05 - 12:44 PM

No - I don't think it's silliness at all. They get to market it anyway they want to. Keeping a tight lid on the book is very good for business. Something none of us will ever have to worry about....


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Subject: RE: BS: Harry Potter:
From: GUEST
Date: 12 Jul 05 - 12:43 PM

Granted it's probably a case of right place at the right time with the right publicity .

Have you read them? I wouldn't call good writing silliness.


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Subject: RE: BS: Harry Potter:
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 12 Jul 05 - 12:43 PM

Of course you realise the ultimate book in the series will be Harry Potter meets Penn and Teller - and they tell him how its all done, so he gets disillusioned and goes into a career where bitterness and disillusion stand him him in good stead - like folksinging.....


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Subject: RE: BS: Harry Potter:
From: GUEST,maire-aine
Date: 12 Jul 05 - 12:35 PM

I plan to stop by the bookstore during the day on Saturday. That's what I did the last time. By late afternoon, they started to sell the reserved copies that weren't picked up that day, knowing they'd get another shipment soon. I expect to get well into it by the time I have to go back to work on Monday.

M


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Subject: RE: BS: Harry Potter:
From: GUEST,MMario
Date: 12 Jul 05 - 12:33 PM

I agree with sorcha - it's a lot of silliness over a book -

but I also agree with Wesley - kids are READING - and yes, they have shown that HP WAS the initial trigger that appears to have reversed the decline of reading skills in the youth of the US (and to a lesser extent - worldwide).

Granted it's probably a case of right place at the right time with the right publicity


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Subject: RE: BS: Harry Potter:
From: Wesley S
Date: 12 Jul 05 - 12:29 PM

Hey - kids are reading something! They aren't glued to a TV set or a computer game. And there's nothing wrong with that. I can't wait to read it myself.


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Subject: RE: BS: Harry Potter:
From: Sorcha
Date: 12 Jul 05 - 09:41 AM

Silliness over a book....


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Subject: BS: Harry Potter:
From: beardedbruce
Date: 11 Jul 05 - 09:17 PM

Reuters) -- Harry Potter's latest secret has slipped out in Canada, and publishers of the best-selling books hope the magical allure of author J.K. Rowling's autograph will get it back under wraps.

Rowling's sixth book about the young wizard is scheduled to be released July 16, but a store near Vancouver briefly put the put the book on sale last week.

Raincoast Books Ltd., which distributes the books in Canada, said a "small number" of the books were sold, and it has won a court injunction barring the buyers of "Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince" from disclosing the plot.

The court also ordered all the copies be returned to Raincoast, which has promised the early buyers book plates autographed by Rowling once the embargo is lifted.

Millions of copies of "Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince" are expected to be distributed to stores around the world, and publishers have launched big security efforts to keep the wizard's adventures a secret until the official release date.


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