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History - BBC's 'Singing Together'

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GUEST,Pat McCarron 19 Mar 11 - 05:26 PM
DMcG 20 Mar 11 - 05:08 PM
GUEST,scott 24 Mar 11 - 10:37 PM
GUEST,Matt Price 25 Mar 11 - 05:59 PM
GUEST,glueman 25 Mar 11 - 06:15 PM
GUEST,scott 26 Apr 11 - 10:09 PM
GUEST,Nicnic 02 May 11 - 06:14 PM
GUEST,Tony Orman 23 May 11 - 01:30 PM
Waddon Pete 24 May 11 - 04:01 AM
GUEST,scott 11 Jun 11 - 05:54 PM
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Subject: RE: History - BBC's 'Singing Together'
From: GUEST,Pat McCarron
Date: 19 Mar 11 - 05:26 PM

I remember " Singing Together " from primary school in the early sixties. The song I remember best is "Cargoes" by John Masefield.I can still sing part of it. "Blow the wind Southerly" is another one.I think I remember a woman with a big operatic voice singing some of the songs.


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Subject: RE: History - BBC's 'Singing Together'
From: DMcG
Date: 20 Mar 11 - 05:08 PM

Sorry, Steve but I've bought them! However, no need to worry because my intention is to transcribe them all and host them at www.folkinfo.com along with all the others we have there. Of course, it will take some time ...


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Subject: RE: History - BBC's 'Singing Together'
From: GUEST,scott
Date: 24 Mar 11 - 10:37 PM

Just to let you know that im selling a lot of BBC Schools music pamphlets on ebay, if anyone is interested. If you want anything specific please feel free to email me and we could work something out.

magiscot666@aol.com


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Subject: RE: History - BBC's 'Singing Together'
From: GUEST,Matt Price
Date: 25 Mar 11 - 05:59 PM

Hi

Just to add to Guest Ruth's post:

Singing together was, according to Gordon Cox's article 'School music broadcasts and the BBC 1924-;47', published in 1996 in the journal 'History of Education' (25: 4), dreamed up by one Herbert Wiseman in 1939. This is a quote from Wiseman in 1969 (taken from the same article) discussing how the programme started:

The date was September 1939, the BBC had all its preparations made for the autumn term's broadcasts - pamphlets were printed for all subjects, including the music lessons.. . . Then came the war, and mass evacuation of children from their homes and schools. They were scattered about the country in small detached groups. The issue of pamphlets was stopped, no systematic class instruction was possible, education had to become an affair of hasty improvisation to meet the new enforced conditions. Then somebody had a brainwave. The children were scattered but even when only two or three were gathered together they could still sing. What about broadcasting a few songs and encouraging all, no matter where they were, to take part. A title for such a series? Oh, easy! Singing Together. And on the 25th of September, a few days after the war had begun, we started the series which has gone on till today.

Hope that helps!


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Subject: RE: History - BBC's 'Singing Together'
From: GUEST,glueman
Date: 25 Mar 11 - 06:15 PM

My memories of '68, the summer of love when everyone was tuning in, turning on and dropping out was our teacher turning the dial to Singing Together with people who sounded uncannily like Peter Piers and Kathleen Ferrier. That and a 16mm film of the joy of chocolate by Cadbury - complete with free samples - was as far onto the magic bus as my ten year old self ever got.


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Subject: RE: History - BBC's 'Singing Together'
From: GUEST,scott
Date: 26 Apr 11 - 10:09 PM

check out ebay for many Singing Together books along with Time and Tune, Music Workshop, Music Makers and Music Time(BBC Schools TV)


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Subject: RE: History - BBC's 'Singing Together'
From: GUEST,Nicnic
Date: 02 May 11 - 06:14 PM

The Rain Song - Someone said they want the tune. I remember the tune after all these years!! I hum it if you want to listen...


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Subject: RE: History - BBC's 'Singing Together'
From: GUEST,Tony Orman
Date: 23 May 11 - 01:30 PM

I am writing this in May 2011. A couple of nights ago I woke up and suddenly asked myself "Are there any mentions on the Internet for William Appleby?" I checked and found this site. I figured you might be interested in my memories of this man who was so much to me in my childhood.

I am now 76 and went to Doncaster Grammar School (as it was then called) in 1946 at age 11, leaving in the summer of 1953 at age 18. In 1946 William ("Pip") Appleby was the school's music teacher. He always auditioned new students to check their musical skills. I didn't play an instrument but I had a fairly good soprano singing voice, and he put me in the school choir. I served in the choir the whole time I was at the school, naturally changing in due course from soprano to baritone.

While I was still a soprano, Pip asked me to join the Doncaster Schools Choir, which drew from a number of schools in the town (girls and boys schools) and I remained in that until I went to University. We rehearsed every Monday evening during term time, and Pip organized a number of concerts for us to perform each year, some of them outside Doncaster and a number of them in churches. Then he asked me if I would join his small choir which he used for broadcasts on the BBC in the Educational programme "Singing Together". He put out this show every week during term-time, often with soloists. But one week in three we would be shipped to Leeds in a coach to the BBC Studios in Leeds. There he would lecture on the various songs that he wanted to teach the listeners. The latter, of course, were schoolchildren all over the country who would hear it in their classrooms. We would demonstrate singing a few bars at a time of each song, then we would perform the whole song. The BBC studio was a large two-storey room which I think must have been converted from an old Methodist church. Naturally we had rehearsed all these songs back in Doncaster, maybe a couple of times. So I spent a good deal of time in Pip's company over the whole seven years of my secondary education.

We sang near a grand piano on the ground floor with Pip conducting from the piano. On the upper floor of the Studio the BBC operatives could see and hear us through a glass window. The programme was broadcast through Post Office landlines to the BBC in London where the show was actually recorded. The big event of the day for us, of course, was not just the singing but the huge tea party with large sugary cakes afterwards, courtesy of the BBC.

Some time during these years Pip left the employment of DGS to take up the post of Doncaster Schools Music Advisor — a post that was specially created for him so that he could impart his charismatic talents throughout the whole community.

Pip lived in a large three-storey townhouse in Christchurch Road immediately across from the main school entrance. He was a single man. It was not until I was in my 20s that I found out that he personally funded one boy's living expenses so that he was able to attend the school. That student eventually became Head Boy of DGS. Alas his name now escapes me.

And what was Pip like? He was small of stature, relatively slim and quite neat to look at. He was a very kindly man whom boys took to as soon as they met him. He was a genius at retaining the interest of children in music of all kinds. A bit of a pied piper you might say. He might seem shy and retiring, but he commanded huge respect from all who knew him. I remember that on three or four occasions at the BBC shows, we worked together with a man who was very handsome and had a fabulous high baritone voice. This man (name forgotten I'm afraid) was clearly a well-known soloist whom Pip had persuaded to sing some songs along with us. This man was almost as much in awe of Pip as we always were as kids.

This is not to say that we didn't have other great schoolmasters at DGS, but Pip was a great mentor and we always felt he was a great friend to have in the older generation.

I was always proud to be counted among the chosen few whom he took under his wing as a singer. He also created a very small select group, male and female singers, whom he thought worthy not only to sing in programmes with the rest of us, but whom he pushed to go for choral scholarships in Oxford and Cambridge. I was always sad that my voice did not have that degree of quality but it was thrilling to be a small cog in his musical scheme of things. It felt — and still does — like being a member of a very exclusive club: there were never more than about thirteen of us in the BBC choir, for instance, and during my seven years of participation there were very few changes in personnel.

I still miss him.

Tony Orman
Florida, USA


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Subject: RE: History - BBC's 'Singing Together'
From: Waddon Pete
Date: 24 May 11 - 04:01 AM

Hello Tony,

Thank you for sharing your memories with us! Fascinating to read some of the background.

Best wishes,

Peter


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Subject: RE: History - BBC's 'Singing Together'
From: GUEST,scott
Date: 11 Jun 11 - 05:54 PM

just to let people know im selling singing together, time and tune, music workshop, music makers and music time, books and recordings on ebay at the moment, just search for BBC Schools on ebay. If there is something you want but cant see on there, just email me as I do have a large collection!
magiscot666@aol.com


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Subject: RE: History - BBC's 'Singing Together'
From: GUEST,Guest
Date: 16 Jun 11 - 04:19 PM

Can anyone recall a song about that Admiral Benbow - with lyrics that differ from that which can be found elsewhere.
I particularly recall a line that went ' he taught his sone John, a tanner to be'


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Subject: RE: History - BBC's 'Singing Together'
From: GUEST,GG
Date: 04 Jul 11 - 04:03 AM

Hi
Has anybody got a list of songs that were in the Singing Together booklets from Summer 1986 Spring and Summer 1987 And Spring and Summer 1988 please as these are the years I am having trouble with finding.Hope somebody can help?


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Subject: RE: History - BBC's 'Singing Together'
From: GUEST
Date: 08 Jul 11 - 12:14 AM

Hi Fliss I just read your post, I would be interested in what bbc books u have in your loft!!LOL, perhaps u can email me
magiscot666@aol.com

thanks


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Subject: RE: History - BBC's 'Singing Together'
From: GUEST,scott
Date: 08 Jul 11 - 12:37 AM

selling broadcasts on cd of music workshop stage 1 and music makers, time and tune broadcasts from 70's and some singing together, music time on video, on ebay!! look under 'BBC Schools' im magiscot666@aol.com


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Subject: RE: History - BBC's 'Singing Together'
From: GUEST,scott
Date: 20 Jul 11 - 01:45 PM

Im selling singing together, time and tune, music workshop, music makers and music time pamphlets and recordings from 70's,8o's and 90's on ebay now! look under bbc schools, im magiscot666


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Subject: RE: History - BBC's 'Singing Together'
From: GUEST,Lindsay
Date: 12 Aug 11 - 10:53 AM

Has anyone, other than I, ever thought of forming a singing together group/choir? Perhaps I'm just a sad fifty four year old but I remember many of the songs and frequently find myself singing them. Are there other like minded people, in London, who would like to get together and have fun singing these songs?


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Subject: RE: History - BBC's 'Singing Together'
From: GUEST,Alan
Date: 13 Sep 11 - 04:00 PM

I would love to find a copy of Will Wanderers Win from Spring 1982, I left a message on the Amazon page about the songbook: Amazon "Will Wanderers Win" Spring 1982 Send me a message via Amazon if you can help. Thanks!


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Subject: RE: History - BBC's 'Singing Together'
From: GUEST,IainC
Date: 18 Nov 11 - 08:50 PM

In my 7 years at Primary, my 6 years at High School, my 4 years at University, nothing impacted on me more than Singing Together: Rhythm and Melody. My years were 1950 to 1952. I would pay good money for a copy of the pupils' book for any of these years. Does anyone remember the lovely Hebridean songs "Dream Island" and "O Ro Marie Dubh, Turn Ye to Me"?(sp?), and The Minstrel Boy, The Golden Vanity,Men of Harlech etc., etc.What a delight. They've been an enduring and delightful presence in my memory to this my 71st year.


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Subject: RE: History - BBC's 'Singing Together'
From: GUEST,xihymn
Date: 29 Jan 12 - 07:02 AM

A million thanks to the people who emailed me about The Rain Song.


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Subject: RE: History - BBC's 'Singing Together'
From: GUEST,flotsamsky
Date: 10 Mar 12 - 02:27 PM

To GUEST.SRD

Yes I remember the "Newfoundland" song. the first two verses went something like:

I's the by that builds the boat
and I's the by that sails her
I's the by that catches the fish
and takes them home to Liza

I don't want your rancid fish
They're no good for winter
I can buy as good as that
Down in Bonavista

Hip your partner etc.


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Subject: RE: History - BBC's 'Singing Together'
From: GUEST,SylviaH
Date: 10 Mar 12 - 03:43 PM

Doesn't this all bring back memories of a 1950's childhood. I don't think I have any Celtic blood but my favourites were Road to the Isles and a song to the tune of Dashing White Sargent. I, too, still sing bits of them. Thanks for the reminiscences. I must read more of the comments when I have time.


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Subject: RE: History - BBC's 'Singing Together'
From: GUEST,Val Tarrant
Date: 02 Apr 12 - 10:40 AM

I have copies of the pamphlets from Autumn 1963, Spring 1964, Summer 1964, Spring 1965, and spring 1966. Shouuld I list the siongs to help complete the archice?

Regards

Val Tarrant


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Subject: RE: History - BBC's 'Singing Together'
From: DMcG
Date: 03 Apr 12 - 08:18 AM

I have copies of the pamphlets from Autumn 1963, Spring 1964, Summer 1964, Spring 1965, and spring 1966. Shouuld I list the siongs to help complete the archive?

I have been slacking terribly getting the archive built over at Folkinfo, but, yes, please let us have the indices from the missing booklets.


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Subject: RE: History - BBC's 'Singing Together'
From: DMcG
Date: 03 Apr 12 - 08:20 AM

Sorry, Folkinfo. One day I will use the preview.


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Subject: RE: History - BBC's 'Singing Together'
From: GUEST,parallelgirl
Date: 19 Apr 12 - 04:07 AM

I remember this from primary school! I will sing it to you, if you're still looking for the tune!
parallelgirl _at_ hotmail _dot_com


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Subject: RE: History - BBC's 'Singing Together'
From: GUEST,Looking back in happiness
Date: 29 Apr 12 - 10:13 AM

Was it perhaps....
Calling all Zartians to take a stand
Earthmen invaders approach our land
Up and attack to make them draw back
We are all set and our spaceships manned.

And what about
brontosaurus on the trail looking for his dinner, from the same Time and Tune program?
Or
In the village duckpond standing stagnant by the stepping stones
A toad sings lullabies - but that's all I can remember of those 2!


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Subject: RE: History - BBC's 'Singing Together'
From: GUEST
Date: 13 Jul 12 - 01:51 PM

Im selling some BBC schools music pamphlets on ebay, just search under BBC schools, im magiscot666


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Subject: RE: History - BBC's 'Singing Together'
From: GUEST,Old Fogey
Date: 31 Aug 12 - 03:52 PM

I think I remember this slightly differently...

Calling all Zartians to take a stand.
Earthmen, invaders, approach our land.
Up and attack to make them draw back,
we are all set with our spaceships manned.

Calling all Zartians out; calling all Zartians out!


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Subject: RE: History - BBC's 'Singing Together'
From: GUEST
Date: 16 Jan 13 - 06:29 AM

Hi I have been singing this song since I was in Primary school over 40 years ago lol And I know it word for word and the tune hahah

feel free to contact me rodstewart866@hotmail.com
if you do just use Antonio Antonio as the subject then I'll know it's not spam lol


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Subject: RE: History - BBC's 'Singing Together'
From: GUEST,Duncan 1961
Date: 09 Oct 13 - 06:45 AM

Hi, I'm looking for anything related to a series of songs with the title The Railway Boggart. Can anyone help?

Thanks in Advance


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Subject: RE: History - BBC's 'Singing Together'
From: GUEST
Date: 10 Oct 13 - 03:26 AM

I remember when i worked for british rail, signalmen isolated om the moors actually used to believe in the boggart!


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Subject: RE: History - BBC's 'Singing Together'
From: GUEST
Date: 10 Oct 13 - 03:37 AM

Interestingly through the medium of live radio we were all listening and learning th same songs. i remember clearly learning Mango Walk and Old Zip Coon at the time. they seemed so exotic at the time. As you say, pity folk songs are not taught in primary. Only remember Shenandoah, Boney went to Elba, the Ashgrove and Blow the Wind Southerly.


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Subject: RE: History - BBC's 'Singing Together'
From: Eldergirl
Date: 10 Oct 13 - 07:50 AM

Now, is that THE Rod Stewart, or some other rod Stewart..? From Lucern to Weggis on, hol diri di a, hol diri a... Can't recall second line. I've got several of the booklets in a box somewhere, 1957 I think, from my reluctant incarceration at Ide primary, just outside Exeter. Even learning the songs didn't make me contented with my lot. Talk about Billy No-mates... The songs were good tho. Migildi magildi, about a welsh blacksmith? Lieutenant Kije, tune by Prokofiev. Haul away Joe. Shady Grove, not the same as the one Hamish sings, but we know he's a Lone Arranger.. ;) oo, and Eileen aroon.


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Subject: RE: History - BBC's 'Singing Together'
From: GUEST,Larry
Date: 19 Dec 13 - 05:27 PM

Where have you been to,Peter?
To the stars and the Milky Way
I passed the moon just waking
At the end of day.


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Subject: RE: History - BBC's 'Singing Together'
From: Joe Offer
Date: 20 Dec 13 - 12:03 AM

Jon Freeman gave me a copy of folkinfo.org for posting before he closed it. It's at this address:
http://www.joe-offer.com/folkinfo/

There are several references above to posts at folkinfo about Singing Together, but the index search brings up only one reference. Anybody know how to find the other things?

If there's anything you'd like to post that can't be posted at Mudcat for some reason, I can offer space.

-Joe-
joe@mudcat.org


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Subject: BBC's 'Singing Together' - Lyrics for Old Mr Tucke
From: GUEST,Guest Peter Toth
Date: 19 Jan 14 - 10:22 AM

Please can you help?

I desperately want to do Old Mr Tucker with my class at school where I teach Music in the Czech Republic. I remember the song Old Tucker from either 1968 or 1969. I could buy everything on internet for those years but some pamphlets now cost as much as £15 each online and I don't know exactly which month and year I need. I can't find an index online of the pamphlet contents.

I remember:

Now Old Mr. Tucker was a funny old man
He washed his hair in a frying pan
He combed his hair with the leg of a chair
And all he said was: 'I don't care'!

Now Old Mr. Tucker he wouldn't stay dead
He rose and went to town instead
...

Many many thanks!

Peter Toth
(petertoth@email.cz)


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Subject: RE: History - BBC's 'Singing Together'
From: GUEST,DTM
Date: 19 Jan 14 - 05:55 PM

This is a great thread.
We had 'Singing Together' and 'Rhythm & Melody' at primary school. Tuesdays and Thursdays (I think) but can't remember which one was which. My era was from approx 1953 - 1958.

The wireless was in the headmaster's room and there were extension speakers in the classrooms. We had to remind the head to switch the his wireless on at programme times.

I've jotted down some of the songs I can remember singing from the booklets. I can also remember the excitement at the end of the term/year to find out which song had been voted as the favourite (nationally).
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Begone Dull Care
Barbara Allen
The Drummer & The Cook (One Eye In The Pot, .....Chimney)
Dashing White Sergeant
Charlie Is My Darling
The Lewis Bridal Song (Mairi's Wedding)
Loch Lomond
Ye banks And Braes
Caller Herring
All Though the Night
Men Of Harlech
The Ashgrove
----------------------
It would be great if others could list the songs that they remember, especially (for me) from the era above.


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Subject: RE: History - BBC's 'Singing Together'
From: Eldergirl
Date: 20 Jan 14 - 04:37 AM

Vive L'Amour, vive la compagnie
Let the bullgine run

O Kije was a hussar bold
A hussar bold was he
He fought so bravely for the Tsar
The pride of the cavalry!
( to the 'Troika' tune)

Robin Adair
Wales! Wales! Land of the mists and the wild..
Richard of Taunton Dene
Silent Worship, which I can still sing all the way through, much to my surprise..
Kathleen Tyrrell (alias Caitlin Triall )
Ye banks and braes, of course..
Twenty eighteen
The saeter girl's Sunday
Not sure if Alouette was among them, she might have sneaked in from another school in a slightly later year!


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Subject: RE: History - BBC's 'Singing Together'
From: Murpholly
Date: 20 Jan 14 - 03:40 PM

Farewell Manchester; The Farmyard; To the moon; Cockles and mussels;
Ould John Braddlum; Will ye no come back again; Christmas Day in the morning; Poverty; I saw a Maiden; On Christmas Night; Donkey Riding; Ho Ro My Nut Brown Maiden; The Meeting of the Waters; Twankydillo; St. Athan; Golden Slumbers; Linden Lea; Sweet Nightingale; A Virgin Most Pure; The Infant King; The Twelve Days of Christmas; Dear Harp of Erin; The Derby Ram; Billy Barlow; The Lady Bird; The Hundred Pipers; The Song of the Sailor Lad; Joseph and the Angel; Whence Come you Shepherd Maiden; In Nightly Stillness; Tyrolean Cradle Song;   

and many many more. I still have a wadge of booklets from early fifties through to early sixties. Great fun although verses often cut short and even bowdlerised - but still fun.


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Subject: RE: History - BBC's 'Singing Together'
From: GUEST,Sue
Date: 26 Feb 14 - 03:12 PM

I remember the song the Railway Boggart, I think it comes from this BBC publication:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BBC-RADIO-FOR-SCHOOLS-Music-1-BLUEBIRD-LINE-Spring-1970-/161224576760?ru=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.co.uk%2Fsch%2Fi.html%3F_sacat%3D0%26_from%3DR40%26_nkw%3D161224576760%26_rdc%3D1&nma=true&si=zBf4xr7iX7FHd4zYpe1hou5QnDM%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

I've just bought the item, hopefully The Railway Boggart is contained within!


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Subject: RE: History - BBC's 'Singing Together'
From: GUEST
Date: 05 Mar 14 - 02:17 PM

Yes, I have a copy of BBC Radio for schools spring term 1970 and it has the Railway Boggart song in it:

Dwarfs live underground, Dryads in trees, there are trolls and goblins and imps and ogres, bogeymen and kelpies but much better than these and very much nicer is such a rogue as the railway boggart. He doesn't clank chains but has lots of fun in railway trains.

He's no long ago fairy, elf or gnome. He is not a fire drake or a pixie. Doesn't haunt the bedrooms in a stately old home, there's only one place to see all his tricks, he's a railway boggart who likes to take pains to do all his tricks in railway trains.

Ghosties and ghouls which go bump in the night, or the mischievous Cornish sprite called a piskie, little outer-space men come and give you a fright and leprechauns sometimes spit in the whisky! A railway boggart from all this refrains and only does tricks in railway trains.

Further in the booklet, page 20:

The Boggart's campaign

When the boggart heard this song he said 'this has gone on too long;to see this family get so poor is something I'll no more endure.'

'O boggart dear, that's kind of you, but what do you propose to do?'   

Well, I shall use my magic powers on those lost passengers of ours. So when in cars those people sit, they'll wish they'd never thought of it. Whereever traffic signs are found I'll turn them all the wrong way round and angry motorists will say,

I can't think how I lost my way but this road can't be right, I know...I came through here an HOUR ago!

I'll haunt their cars. I'll grind and squeak, I'll make a different noise each week. But when they take it for repair the garage will find nothing there. On narrow roads, just where they bend, with queues behind that never end, I'll make their silly tyres go flat.

The spare wheel? O, I've thought of that, for when they get it out of view they'll find that it is punctured too.

O, I'll make traffic jams get worse till cars go slower than a hearse; I'll make those motorists weep and whine,

O give us back our railway line!


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Subject: RE: History - BBC's 'Singing Together'
From: BBC Researcher
Date: 04 Jun 14 - 10:34 AM

Hello, I am working on a radio documentary about 'Singing Together', and I'm looking for interesting stories about the programme- perhaps you worked it, or were really influenced by it? I am hoping to find people who listened during the war, because it started in 1939 and the BBC hoped it would comfort children - particularly evacuees in unfamiliar schools.

I'm also looking at a song from 1974 called 'Hunting the Hare' which caused a big row at the time- letters from MPs, complaints from Head teachers and so on. Some classes loved the song and others refused to sing it. Can anyone remember this?

Please get in touch with your stories - send me a message on Mudcat or email ruth.evans@bbc.co.uk
Many thanks,
Ruth


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Subject: RE: History - BBC's 'Singing Together'
From: BBC Researcher
Date: 04 Jun 14 - 12:24 PM

A bit more info in case anyone is interested in the origins of the programme;

It started in 1939, a few days after the outbreak of war. It went out at 11am on Monday mornings, and a Scottish presenter called Herbert Wiseman created the programme, with the help of a few volunteers from the BBC in Glasgow who sang on the recordings. They did 'Billy Boy', 'Golden Slumber' and 'Michael Finnegan' on the first programme. William Appleby, a schools music organiser and choirmaster from Doncaster started presenting around 1947.


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Subject: recordings needed - BBC's 'Singing Together'
From: Felipa
Date: 13 Oct 14 - 01:00 PM

Joe Cocker is working on a BBC radio programme about the Singing Together series. Few of the programmes have been saved in BBC archives, so he made an announcement on BBC Radio 4 asking for people who recorded the programme and have the recordings to contact the Beeb. Apparently it wasnt uncommon for teachers to record the programme.


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Subject: RE: History - BBC's 'Singing Together'
From: Bainbo
Date: 13 Oct 14 - 07:35 PM

Jarvis. It's Jarvis Cocker. Both from Sheffield, but it's the Common People guy, rather than the With A Little Help From My Friends chap.

Anyone with recordings, or just memories, of the programme was asked to contact the PM programme.


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Subject: RE: History - BBC's 'Singing Together'
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 13 Oct 14 - 08:00 PM

This is a great thread.
We had 'Singing Together' and 'Rhythm & Melody' at primary school. Tuesdays and Thursdays (I think) but can't remember which one was which. My era was from approx 1953 - 1958.

The wireless was in the headmaster's room and there were extension speakers in the classrooms. We had to remind the head to switch the his wireless on at programme times.

I've jotted down some of the songs I can remember singing from the booklets. I can also remember the excitement at the end of the term/year to find out which song had been voted as the favourite (nationally).
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Begone Dull Care
Barbara Allen
The Drummer & The Cook (One Eye In The Pot, .....Chimney)
Dashing White Sergeant
Charlie Is My Darling
The Lewis Bridal Song (Mairi's Wedding)
Loch Lomond
Ye banks And Braes
Caller Herring
All Though the Night
Men Of Harlech
The Ashgrove
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It would be great if others could list the songs that they remember, especially (for me) from the era above.


Well I'm of your era, perhaps a couple of years later, and I remember lots of those in your list. I can add Pretty Polly Oliver, Oh No John, Bonnie Dundee, and...I'll keep thinking!


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Subject: RE: History - BBC's 'Singing Together'
From: KettyRoberto
Date: 14 Oct 14 - 05:19 AM

It is a glimpse from the past. It is a nice post. Business Loan Programs


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Subject: RE: History - BBC's 'Singing Together'
From: JHW
Date: 24 Nov 14 - 04:49 PM

BBC Radio 4 Sat 29th November 2014.
8 p.m. Archive on 4
Jarvis Cocker remembers Singing Together

Singing Together - 29th Nov 2014


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Subject: RE: History - BBC's 'Singing Together'
From: JHW
Date: 28 Nov 14 - 09:00 AM

Reminder

BBC Radio 4 Sat 29th November 2014.
8 p.m. Archive on 4
SINGING TOGETHER


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Subject: RE: History - BBC's 'Singing Together'
From: GUEST
Date: 29 Nov 14 - 04:10 PM

Radio 4 - Jarvis Cocker - Brought me to tears. The memories of our classroom in the 50's, the turtle stove, the medium wave valve wireless with a key and the giant loudspeaker with its dodgy connections being wheeled in by the caretaker. All sitting round the wireless in our grey shirts, cardigans, shorts and plimsolls waiting for it to warm up, then all, yes .... SINGING TOGETHER !!!! Wonderful times.


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