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BS: Smarties to drop the tube!!

alison 04 Mar 05 - 12:54 AM
skipy 03 Mar 05 - 04:34 PM
Layah 02 Mar 05 - 04:46 PM
robomatic 02 Mar 05 - 04:29 PM
annamill 02 Mar 05 - 02:56 PM
ToulouseCruise 02 Mar 05 - 02:41 PM
annamill 02 Mar 05 - 02:35 PM
ToulouseCruise 02 Mar 05 - 02:28 PM
Layah 02 Mar 05 - 09:35 AM
robomatic 26 Feb 05 - 10:55 AM
GUEST,steven 25 Feb 05 - 06:16 PM
rockchick 24 Feb 05 - 11:02 PM
GUEST,Moki 24 Feb 05 - 06:09 PM
skipy 24 Feb 05 - 10:42 AM
SharonA 23 Feb 05 - 09:20 PM
Layah 23 Feb 05 - 08:48 PM
GUEST,*Laura* (who STILL can't log on!) 23 Feb 05 - 04:28 PM
Torctgyd 23 Feb 05 - 06:14 AM
MBSLynne 23 Feb 05 - 02:48 AM
Layah 22 Feb 05 - 07:36 PM
SharonA 22 Feb 05 - 07:28 PM
Cluin 22 Feb 05 - 06:05 PM
skipy 22 Feb 05 - 10:24 AM
MBSLynne 22 Feb 05 - 09:46 AM
GUEST,Antsan61 22 Feb 05 - 08:01 AM
Cluin 21 Feb 05 - 09:27 PM
annamill 21 Feb 05 - 05:57 PM
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GUEST,*Laura* 21 Feb 05 - 05:15 PM
Peace 21 Feb 05 - 05:04 PM
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GUEST,Alastair Campbell 20 Feb 05 - 01:01 PM
Layah 20 Feb 05 - 08:29 AM
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GUEST,Moki 20 Feb 05 - 03:38 AM
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Raedwulf 19 Feb 05 - 05:24 PM
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Subject: RE: BS: Smarties to drop the tube!!
From: alison
Date: 04 Mar 05 - 12:54 AM

saw an ad here in Oz not so long ago that they were changing "Snickers" back to "Marathons" again.... and about time too

can't get used to Starburst either - although their jelly snakes and jelly beans are great... we get musical ones too - gummy shape guitars, notes, singers etc.... mmmmmmmmm

never liked the blue smarties - red were great to paint with
I remember trying to get the lids to spell out words with all the other kids in the playground after we'd eaten the sweets



slainte

alison


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Subject: RE: BS: Smarties to drop the tube!!
From: skipy
Date: 03 Mar 05 - 04:34 PM

Yes, but I've picked it up & put it at the top again!
Skipy.


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Subject: RE: BS: Smarties to drop the tube!!
From: Layah
Date: 02 Mar 05 - 04:46 PM

Smarties in the States are not very good. There are other candy bars with confusing names. UK Mars bars are like US Milky Way, and UK Milky Way are like US 3 Muskateers. I know we have Mars bars in the US, but I can't remember what they are like. And what is entirely unfair, Kit Kats are the same except they have better chocolate in the UK. And Nestle makes chocolate that is worth eating, unlike Nestle chocolate in the US. I was happier believing Nestle didn't know how to make good chocolate. Now I'm offended that they sell their junk in the US and something better (admitedly not really good, but edible at least) to the UK.


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Subject: RE: BS: Smarties to drop the tube!!
From: robomatic
Date: 02 Mar 05 - 04:29 PM

Yeah, I've never seen chocolate smarties. How come they're different in the states?

Cadbury caramellos are the same, ditto aero bars, when you can find 'em, so how come our smarties ain't so smart?


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Subject: RE: BS: Smarties to drop the tube!!
From: annamill
Date: 02 Mar 05 - 02:56 PM

Well! Drat! Chocolate Centers!! Drat!

Ok, I still haven't tried Smarties.

Never mind. Please ignore previous message.

Love, Annamill


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Subject: RE: BS: Smarties to drop the tube!!
From: ToulouseCruise
Date: 02 Mar 05 - 02:41 PM

NO NO NO, Annamill!! You've got those silly American ones!!!

you need to get hold of some good old fashioned Canadian, UK, or Aussie smarties... the good old fashioned CHOCOLATE CENTRES!!!!

send your husband back out across the boarder for a proper treat!

Brian


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Subject: RE: BS: Smarties to drop the tube!!
From: annamill
Date: 02 Mar 05 - 02:35 PM

Ok, I've just had my first smarties. Ironically, my husband brought some home from work yesterday. I couldn't believe it. They weren't in any type of tube though. They were wrapped up in clear paper. I wanted to try to be objective and try each color. I found them very tart yet with a sweetness about them. Not bad. An interesting taste.

Probably wouldn't beat chocolate any time soon as one of my favorites, but, I'd eat them again.

Love, Annamill


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Subject: RE: BS: Smarties to drop the tube!!
From: ToulouseCruise
Date: 02 Mar 05 - 02:28 PM

there was the question if smarties have different flavors... I can tell the difference between many of the colors. The lighter ones (green, pink, yellow) have a slightly sweeter taste, while the darker ones (both browns) are a little more bitter. Red and orange have their own distinct tastes, but I am not sure about blue... been a while since I did the research, as blue ones were only introduced a few years back in Canada.

I love the concept of the Smarties duels... but cluin, how do you get rid of the color on the tips of your fingers?

Brian


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Subject: RE: BS: Smarties to drop the tube!!
From: Layah
Date: 02 Mar 05 - 09:35 AM

I bought some fruit flavored smarties today. They don't have any chocolate, therefore they are immediately inferior to chocolate smarties. The flavor is not related to the color, so you don't know what flavor any of them are. They remind me of skittles. Except they are kind of harder.


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Subject: RE: BS: Smarties to drop the tube!!
From: robomatic
Date: 26 Feb 05 - 10:55 AM

Time for the dumb 'murrican to contribute:

I started this thread wondering if i'd ever seen Smarties and if they were similar to M & Ms. When i read Cluinn's story I recalled seeing this a few years ago done as a voluntary breeding program for bigger and better m & ms. so they must be similar.

It's wonderful to have impetus for delicious research.

But lamenting a packaging that has lasted for generations is almost unknown in the states, the last time I remember this is when Animal Crackers stopped coming in those lovely little cardboard illustrated zoo cages and Crackerjacks stopped coming in crude waxy illustrated cardboard containers.

Octagonal tubes sound like fun, kinda like old-fashioned gun barrels.


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Subject: RE: BS: Smarties to drop the tube!!
From: GUEST,steven
Date: 25 Feb 05 - 06:16 PM

SWISS douchebags hands off our traditions, oh yeah and pay the poor bastard farmers a living wage.


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Subject: RE: BS: Smarties to drop the tube!!
From: rockchick
Date: 24 Feb 05 - 11:02 PM

and i just put mine in the dustbin last week, boohooo, sob. and what about the smarties that got thrown at me in Ireland (mudcat gathering) they went down the front of my teeshirt.never to be seen again !!!!!!alas only the smaries no tube!


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Subject: RE: BS: Smarties to drop the tube!!
From: GUEST,Moki
Date: 24 Feb 05 - 06:09 PM

Randi will eat any of them.


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Subject: RE: BS: Smarties to drop the tube!!
From: skipy
Date: 24 Feb 05 - 10:42 AM

Got one, got one, got one - smarties tube & it's going on ebay tonight! Watch for it. Orange lid letter i.
Skipy (eating the blue one again!).


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Subject: RE: BS: Smarties to drop the tube!!
From: SharonA
Date: 23 Feb 05 - 09:20 PM

"Anything that contains chocolate must be intrinsically superior to anything that doesn't contain chocolate."

AMEN!!!!!


Torctgyd: Being an American myself, I can answer your question: Yes, that's one of the results of "stomach flu"! So is vomiting. It's actually not an influenza virus. It's viral gastroenteritis (inflammation of the stomach and intestines; can be caused by Salmonella enteritidis), also called "Norwalk Virus" or Norovirus. More than you wanted to know, I'm sure!


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Subject: RE: BS: Smarties to drop the tube!!
From: Layah
Date: 23 Feb 05 - 08:48 PM

This thread inspired me, so I bought some smarties today. They are indeed better than m&ms.    The candy shell is thicker. And they are way way better than American smarties, which don't contain chocolate. Anything that contains chocolate must be intrinisicly superior to anything that doesn't contain chocolate. And the orange ones are orange flavored. And they came in a tube.


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Subject: RE: BS: Smarties to drop the tube!!
From: GUEST,*Laura* (who STILL can't log on!)
Date: 23 Feb 05 - 04:28 PM

I always save the green ones. I don't think they taste any different though.
xLx


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Subject: RE: BS: Smarties to drop the tube!!
From: Torctgyd
Date: 23 Feb 05 - 06:14 AM

I believe that they may be bringing out flavoured Smarties - but I was off sick with the 'flu' at the time and I wasn't paying much attention to Blue Peter on the TV!

BTW what is it that Americans call stomach flu - is it a euphamism for the shits?


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Subject: RE: BS: Smarties to drop the tube!!
From: MBSLynne
Date: 23 Feb 05 - 02:48 AM

Mostly Smarties don't have different flavours, but the orange ones have orange flavoured chocolate in...mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm!


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Subject: RE: BS: Smarties to drop the tube!!
From: Layah
Date: 22 Feb 05 - 07:36 PM

UK twix and US twix are the same. One of the few candies that are. There's a whole confusing combination of mars bars and milky way and three muskateers that masquerade as one another variously by country.

Cluin, I tried that with a pack of m&ms once. My testing methods were not scientific enough though, because the newcomer almost always won, the previous winner having been weakend by the warmth of my hand. I think I need to develop more specialized m&m war equipment. I also often find that mutations have a much thicker shell, thus having a great advantage.


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Subject: RE: BS: Smarties to drop the tube!!
From: SharonA
Date: 22 Feb 05 - 07:28 PM

Okay, ater reading this thread I have to ask: does the candy coating of Smarties (UK) come in different flavors? Or are people sorting them by color and expressing a preference "just because"?

M&Ms candies (US) do not have multi-flavored candy coatings, just the various colors. As I write, I am eating the Peanut M&Ms, which are different from one another only in the texture of each peanut. (Some are really hard; I find myself checking my teeth to make sure I'm not chewing one of my crowns!) I assume that Smarties don't come with a peanut center; am I right?

Raedwulf: "Twix", you say? Is the UK "Twix" the same as the US "Twix bar"?


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Subject: RE: BS: Smarties to drop the tube!!
From: Cluin
Date: 22 Feb 05 - 06:05 PM

Whenever I get a package of Smarties, I make it my duty to continue testing the strength and robustness of the candy as a species.

To this end, I hold Smartie duels.

Taking two candies between my thumb and forefinger, I apply pressure, squeezing them together until one of them cracks and splinters. That is the "loser," and I eat the inferior one immediately. The winner gets to go another round.

I have found that, in general, the brown and red Smarties are tougher, and the newer blue ones are genetically inferior. I have hypothesized that the blue Smarties as a race cannot survive long in the intense theatre of competition that is the modern candy and snack-food world. Occasionally I will get a mutation, a candy that is misshapen, or pointier, or flatter than the rest. Almost invariably this proves to be a weakness, but on very rare occasions it gives the candy extra strength. In this way, the species continues to adapt to its environment.

When I reach the end of the pack, I am left with one Smartie... the strongest of the herd. No snacking on this one; it has earned its place of honour and must be treated accordingly. I pack this Monarch of the Glen neatly in an envelope and send it to Nestlé Headquarters, Avenue Nestlé 55, 1800 Vevey, Switzerland, along with a 3x5 card reading:

"Please use this Smartie for breeding purposes."

This week, they wrote back to thank me, and sent me a coupon for a free 1/2 pound bag of Smarties. I consider this "grant money." I have set aside the weekend for a grand tournament. From a field of hundreds of pretenders, we will winnow out the True Champion.

"There can be only One!"

-author mostly unknown


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Subject: RE: BS: Smarties to drop the tube!!
From: skipy
Date: 22 Feb 05 - 10:24 AM

As we speak, on Ebay there is for sale a wispa bar & a caramel bar in weird stuff, about 2 hours left.
£4.99 or buy it now £9.99!

Skipy


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Subject: RE: BS: Smarties to drop the tube!!
From: MBSLynne
Date: 22 Feb 05 - 09:46 AM

A bit of Smartie nostalgia here......

They were my favourite sweet when I was little and as my nickname had been Lulu since I was a baby, the family thought it really spooky when the Smarties adverts started saying "Buy some for Lulu!" at the end. I, of course, thought it was the right and proper working of a wonderful world.

I remeber when they changed the lids from metal ones that fitted over the tube to the plastic coloured ones we now have. I also remember standing with my Mum in the local Co-op with a tube of Smarties in my hand...I was about 5. I stood there shaking the tube because it made a good sound, when suddenly, the lid flew off and my Smarties went everywhere....my Mum hurried me out of the shop after buying another tube, embarassed because a man standing near us had his trouser turn-ups full of Smarties and didn't know!

We used to have our grocery order delivered on Thursday evening every week, just as "The Flintstones" came on. There was always a tube of Smarties each for my sister and I and for years Smarties and the Flinstones were mixed together in my mind.

I managed without Smartie tubes after we emigrated to Australia, where they came in boxes, but it was never the same....

And I always save the orange ones till last!

Love Lynne


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Subject: RE: BS: Smarties to drop the tube!!
From: GUEST,Antsan61
Date: 22 Feb 05 - 08:01 AM

Hey, Anyone seen the Ad at the bottom of this page?

"New & used Nestle Smarties"

Used????????????????


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Subject: RE: BS: Smarties to drop the tube!!
From: Cluin
Date: 21 Feb 05 - 09:27 PM

Stand up and fight against Error 400!

I'm not having it, I tell you!


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Subject: RE: BS: Smarties to drop the tube!!
From: annamill
Date: 21 Feb 05 - 05:57 PM

Sorry. Forget the link.


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Subject: RE: BS: Smarties to drop the tube!!
From: annamill
Date: 21 Feb 05 - 05:50 PM

I've been deprived. I've never had a Smartie.

In NY, USA, they tried to give a bagged version of our SACRED "Cracker Jacks" at Yankee Stadium. New Yorkers would have none of it and quite a fuss was made and finally Yankee Stadium went back to the "Box of Cracker Jacks". You don' mess wit NewYawkas. 'Specially their Yankees!

They'd have to change the sacred song

"Take me out to the ballgame",
"Take me out to the crowd",
"buy me some peanuts and bagged caramel popcorn"....

Nope, just doesn't work..

Here it is as it should be:

(im a red sox fan myself, shhh)

Point is, if enough fuss is made you CAN change it back. Write a letter! Scream at your local store! Stop buying the smartasses, sorry smarties!

STANDUP AND FIGHT! DON'T ALLOW IT!

Luv, Annamill


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Subject: RE: BS: Smarties to drop the tube!!
From: GUEST,*Laura*
Date: 21 Feb 05 - 05:15 PM

Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!


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Subject: RE: BS: Smarties to drop the tube!!
From: Peace
Date: 21 Feb 05 - 05:04 PM

Right. "Here, have some Brilliants."


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Subject: RE: BS: Smarties to drop the tube!!
From: GUEST,*Laura*
Date: 21 Feb 05 - 05:03 PM

I suppose we should be grateful they aren't changing the name of Smarties too. Opal Fruits just aren't the same now they're Starburst.


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Subject: RE: BS: Smarties to drop the tube!!
From: ToulouseCruise
Date: 21 Feb 05 - 04:21 PM

okay, it sounds like the Smarties in the US are the same as what we would call "Rockets" in Canada.... especially once it was mentioned that you get a bunch of them at Halloween...



So, to summarize:

1) Smarties UK, Canada, Oz -- Candy coated milk chocolate similar to M&M's... UK had em packed in tubes, Canada in boxes, UK in ???
2) Smarties USA -- concave candies in clear cellophane wrapper, stacked together... you can pull the wrapper ends like a Christmas Cracker to unwrap
3) Smarties USA & Rockets from Canada -- separated at birth? YES!!


and here is the proof!

... someone else will need to explain Opal Fruit, Spangles, et al.

Brian


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Subject: RE: BS: Smarties to drop the tube!!
From: GUEST
Date: 21 Feb 05 - 03:23 PM

"Cette sauce de haute qualité est un mélange des..." sorry I digress.
Personally I have never eaten an Opal Fruit since their demise. And what about Spangles then?


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Subject: RE: BS: Smarties to drop the tube!!
From: Peace
Date: 20 Feb 05 - 05:25 PM

Welcome.

It bothered me much more, frankly, when HP Sauce changed its label. That was a real kick in the stones. Kinda makes ya feel like nothin's sacred anymore.


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Subject: RE: BS: Smarties to drop the tube!!
From: *Laura*
Date: 20 Feb 05 - 04:03 PM

thanks brucie!


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Subject: RE: BS: Smarties to drop the tube!!
From: Peace
Date: 20 Feb 05 - 03:58 PM

Laura's Link


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Subject: RE: BS: Smarties to drop the tube!!
From: GUEST,Alastair Campbell
Date: 20 Feb 05 - 01:01 PM

I agree - it is out of order!

I have setup a petition - please sign it, link to it and blog about it.

http://www.gopetition.co.uk/online/5908.html

Tell everyone you know and then let's get some publicity.

Alastair.


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Subject: RE: BS: Smarties to drop the tube!!
From: Layah
Date: 20 Feb 05 - 08:29 AM

The confusion I've had since this thread began has finally been explained! I kept thinking "Smarties...tubes?...chocolate?" Now SharonA has explained, smarties in the US are different. I thought they were these little chalky things that came in a clear plastic wrapping. The only time I've ever eaten them is when I used to get gajillions of them at Holloween, so I thought maybe I was remembering something wrong. Being in the UK I think I'd better go out and buy myself some smarties before the packaging changes to I can experience this wonderful sounding smarties tube.


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Subject: RE: BS: Smarties to drop the tube!!
From: *Laura*
Date: 20 Feb 05 - 08:06 AM

I can't do it - so if anyone can make clickys and would like to - here is the thing anyway -

www.petitiononline.com/ktscttr/petition.html


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Subject: RE: BS: Smarties to drop the tube!!
From: *Laura*
Date: 20 Feb 05 - 07:32 AM

ahh crap - my clicky doesn't work! well I can't make it work anyway.
:-( :-( :-( :-( :-(
what'd I do wrong!?


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Subject: RE: BS: Smarties to drop the tube!!
From: *Laura*
Date: 20 Feb 05 - 07:31 AM

Time to take action!


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Subject: RE: BS: Smarties to drop the tube!!
From: GUEST,Moki
Date: 20 Feb 05 - 03:38 AM

GUEST Randi would use it.


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Subject: RE: BS: Smarties to drop the tube!!
From: Ron Davies
Date: 20 Feb 05 - 12:47 AM

This is Jan speaking, Ron's sponogomous mouse:



I am truly appalled that Nestle's has dared to change Smarties behind my back just because I've moved to the US.

This must be remedied before my annual visit.


I have already instructed my UK contacts to buy every tube of Smarties they can lay their hands on, in every corner shop, in every corner of the UK, north to south, east to west, and especially in Wiltshire.

If this fails, I intend to buy out Nestles.

Have no fear, the round Smarties tube will never be allowed to die.


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Subject: RE: BS: Smarties to drop the tube!!
From: Raedwulf
Date: 19 Feb 05 - 05:24 PM

Sad but true, Sharon! Most of these sweets were created for the UK market, & now they rename them to match the Continental/US version. I'm vaguely surprised that the venerable Twix hasn't yet been re-christened Raider in honour of our European neighbours...

:(


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Subject: RE: BS: Smarties to drop the tube!!
From: skipy
Date: 19 Feb 05 - 04:44 PM

o/k this is what we do:- we keep quiet about this & slowly purchase tubes of smaties until our spare rooms are full. Never buy more than two tubes at a time, never visit the same shop more than once a fortnight, vary your days and routes, never make eye contact with anyone in any of the shops, never joke or cause anything to make you stand out from the rest of the customers. When the smarty eaters are desperate we can sell our tubes on "Ebay" releasing only one a week!
Skipy.
I think I have been eating the blue ones!, I'll get my whelk & hit it with a spatula.


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Subject: RE: BS: Smarties to drop the tube!!
From: SharonA
Date: 19 Feb 05 - 04:21 PM

Raedwulf; I didn't know what Opal Fruits were until you mentioned the name, but having looked it up I see that the two are indeed the same candy... with one glaring difference! Here is a page with a picture of Starbursts US (note the absence of lime):

http://www.oldtimecandy.com/starburst.htm

...and here's a BBC News article with a picture of Starbursts UK (formerly Opal Fruits) (which shows a lime candy! Wahhhh!!):

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/77273.stm


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Subject: RE: BS: Smarties to drop the tube!!
From: Raedwulf
Date: 19 Feb 05 - 04:07 PM

Starbursts? Do you mean Opal Fruits (& don't ask about the Marathon turning into a Snickers... :grrrrrrrrrrr:)?


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Subject: RE: BS: Smarties to drop the tube!!
From: John O'L
Date: 19 Feb 05 - 03:56 PM

"Smarties in Canada are a totally different animal than the ones that come in a tube. Here, they are candy-covered chocolate which taste better than M&Ms." - Cluin

That's what smarties are in Australia too.
So what are these things that come in a 68-year-old tube?


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Subject: RE: BS: Smarties to drop the tube!!
From: SharonA
Date: 19 Feb 05 - 03:55 PM

Here in the US, Smarties are an entirely different candy: small, tablet-shaped but concave instead of convex, in pastel colors, and with nothing but clear cellophane for packaging. They come in stacks of 10 or 12 candies wrapped in the cellophane with each end of the wrap twisted, so that you can pull on the two ends like a "cracker" until all the candy pops out and rolls all over the place.

Here's a picture from the Smarties (US) website www.smartiesstore.com: http://store1.yimg.com/I/yhst-58653162205018_1831_81581

But I sympathize with those of you mourning the demise of the packaging for your version of Smarties. Sometimes I think they pick the focus groups for these things the way they pick juries: not to eliminate bias but to predestine the group's decision.

I'm still upset that Hershey took away the almonds from the tops of the 5th Avenue bars. And don't even get me started about when the makers of Starbursts stopped making the lime ones!!!!


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Subject: RE: BS: Smarties to drop the tube!!
From: Raedwulf
Date: 19 Feb 05 - 03:34 PM

Aaaaaaaaaaaargh! Nononononononono!!! Tell me it ain't true!!! (OK, I know it is, but at least allow me a temporary illusion)

Well done, Nestle, I shall never eat another Smartie (to be fair I can't remember when I ate the last one, but even so... Steenkin' heretics!!).


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