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BS: Foxhunting Banned.

GUEST,Colyn 30 Nov 04 - 10:12 PM
Terry K 01 Dec 04 - 02:25 AM
Peace 01 Dec 04 - 02:29 AM
Metchosin 01 Dec 04 - 04:06 AM
darkriver 01 Dec 04 - 04:40 AM
Gervase 01 Dec 04 - 05:40 AM
davidmeredith 01 Dec 04 - 06:04 AM
GUEST,Colyn 01 Dec 04 - 07:18 AM
*Laura* 01 Dec 04 - 02:13 PM
Peace 01 Dec 04 - 03:28 PM
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Subject: RE: BS: Foxhunting Banned.
From: GUEST,Colyn
Date: 30 Nov 04 - 10:12 PM

Re. the comments from TerryK about homosexual sex in publicloos etc. This law will not apply to heterosexuasls as I have it on good authority that in hios next budget Brown will require all males to be fitted with a sexometer.
This will record all sexual activity on hte basis of speed, time and distance travelled (i.e. fore-and-aft motion), upon which an annual tax will be levied.
Back to foxhunting:- comment from Labour MP Peter Bradley:- "We ought at last to own up to it: the struggle over the Bill was not just about animal welfare and personal freedom. It was class war."
If petty jealousies over how someone makes or spends their money are still paramount in New Labour's "classless society" then perhaps the MP's need to take a look at the results of their years of Government.
Colyn.


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Subject: RE: BS: Foxhunting Banned.
From: Terry K
Date: 01 Dec 04 - 02:25 AM

Folkiedave - you've missed the whole point as well. If you can manage to read a full sentence you will note that my earlier post says

"I don't do foxhunting, but I don't see it as a big issue either. I just think this government is meddling for meddling's sake".

The emigration thing is my despair about public toilets being turned over to become meeting places for unattached gays to try to get themselves attached, literally, and the fact that first-time trainee burglars are not dissuaded from their activities. Not about foxhunting. You see. Geddit?

Now, of course, if you agree with those things.........

(note to self: why am I bothering to try to explain anything to someone who is so obviously pretending to be a stupid twat in order to wind me up)

cheers, Terry


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Subject: RE: BS: Foxhunting Banned.
From: Peace
Date: 01 Dec 04 - 02:29 AM

"roast 'snips and apple source."

I still wanna know what these things are.


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Subject: RE: BS: Foxhunting Banned.
From: Metchosin
Date: 01 Dec 04 - 04:06 AM

Its the UK brucie, which probably guarantees that 'snips won't be prairie oysters.


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Subject: RE: BS: Foxhunting Banned.
From: darkriver
Date: 01 Dec 04 - 04:40 AM

oh gawrsh.

I thought this was going to be in line with other of John's posts, and talk about the Hull Foxhunting Band -- a group of ne'er-do-wells doing nowt, striking defiant poses in bullfighter capes, clutching didgeridoos and arguing about curry.

What a disappointment!

doug


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Subject: RE: BS: Foxhunting Banned.
From: Gervase
Date: 01 Dec 04 - 05:40 AM

'Snips is parsnips. apple sauce is Bramley apples boiled to a sharp-tasting mush with a couple of cloves - lovely, particularly with fatty stuff like pork.
And teal's delicious if you bard it with bacon and roast it quickly in a very hot oven, so it's still slightly pink.


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Subject: RE: BS: Foxhunting Banned.
From: davidmeredith
Date: 01 Dec 04 - 06:04 AM

Roast hedgehog is delicious.


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Subject: RE: BS: Foxhunting Banned.
From: GUEST,Colyn
Date: 01 Dec 04 - 07:18 AM

As an answer to Folkiedave, it is irrelevant what it might cost to keep a horse and to hunt. If that is a person's interest then they are entitled to spend their money in that manner.
My daughter is the wife of an agricultural labourer, a cowman. She does not smoke, drinks very little and rarely has an evening out. The only holiday she has had in the last 35 years has been the last two years when she stewarded at Sidmouth in order to get a holiday on the cheap. All her spare cash is spent on her equestrian hobby including hunting. That is her choice.
By contrast my brother-in-law is a very well-off business-man who spends much more on a season ticket to a Premier Division football team, plus his travelling and overnight accommodation. That, also, is his choice. It is not for any one of us to tell another how they should spend their money.
Personally I am ambivalent about hunting, other than when the hunters fall off they come to me to patch up their aches and pains. That is my income.
The whole issue is not just about hunting. It has been stated by John Prescott M.P. and Peter Bradley M.P. (see earlier posts) that it is a "class" thing. It is just as much a town versus country thing, particularly as this Government via John Prescott has stated that the countryside "does not matter".
Sure, there are many out there who might live in a country village but they are essentially townsfolk. They work and take their entertainment in the towns and cities. How many of them know the difference between wheat and barley? How many of them could differentiate between a rook and a crow? Equally there are townsfolk who are country people at heart, having had to leave the villages for work in the towns but retaining a love of the countryside and the activities therein.
The point of the foxhunting Bill is not about the fox itself but about "class" and whether or not it is right to dictate to another how they should live or entertain themselves, providing it does no harm to another person or community.
It is a similar issue to the "Two in a bar" legislation.
The animal activists have stated that shooting and fishing will come next. If ever there were classless groups then the shooting and fishing communities would be high on the list.
"I may not agree with what you say but I would defend to the death your right to say it" is a maxim which seems to have been forgotten by many.
Now, if people really want to do something useful, refer to my post of 22 November.
Colyn.


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Subject: RE: BS: Foxhunting Banned.
From: *Laura*
Date: 01 Dec 04 - 02:13 PM

first and formost - parsnips and apple source. yes. as Gervase said. and they are both DELICIOUS!!!!!!
And I am a millionaire and I plan to be a dictator when I 'grow up' so if anyone would like to be in charge of any countries you'd better be nice to me!!! (slightly irrelevent but I thought I'd mention it! :-p )

Dave - most hunts take place on sundays. hunt subscriptions are not that much - not do you actually have to subscribe for most hunts - just pay for the hunt you plan to go on. and al the people - well thats the people who enjoy galloping arouns the coutryside! or tramping around the countryside on foot!

This thread appears to have drifted back to it's original purpose - how strange... :-)


xLx


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Subject: RE: BS: Foxhunting Banned.
From: Peace
Date: 01 Dec 04 - 03:28 PM

Can't have that, can we?

Mark Twain said that golf was a poor excuse to interrupt a good walk.

Thank you for the info on 'snips and source. Also, the recipe on teal. However, I'll just eat the larding and forego the duck.


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