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BS: Non-violent anti-mouse techniques?

Blissfully Ignorant 15 Nov 04 - 08:31 PM
NH Dave 15 Nov 04 - 08:26 PM
Joe Offer 15 Nov 04 - 08:07 PM
McGrath of Harlow 15 Nov 04 - 08:04 PM
Blissfully Ignorant 15 Nov 04 - 07:57 PM
mack/misophist 15 Nov 04 - 07:20 PM
katlaughing 15 Nov 04 - 07:15 PM
GUEST,milk monitor 15 Nov 04 - 06:46 PM
Jeri 15 Nov 04 - 06:36 PM
Shanghaiceltic 15 Nov 04 - 06:33 PM
Peace 15 Nov 04 - 06:31 PM
Liz the Squeak 15 Nov 04 - 06:24 PM
bbc 15 Nov 04 - 06:19 PM
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Subject: RE: BS: Non-violent anti-mouse techniques?
From: Blissfully Ignorant
Date: 15 Nov 04 - 08:31 PM

Of course, in a way it's a good thing you've got mice...means you don't have rats. Mices are scared of rats, they won't live in the same place as them.


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Subject: RE: BS: Non-violent anti-mouse techniques?
From: NH Dave
Date: 15 Nov 04 - 08:26 PM

My cats are all too well fed for them to demean themselves actually chasing mice so I made a catch-em-alive trap out of a large coffee can, some heavy paper, and a bait wire.

I covered the top of the can with a bit of heavy typing paper, cut a couple of slits across the top so it looked like a sectioned pie, and suspended some peanut butter over the center of the can. The next morning I found a small mouse looking back at me as if to say, "Well, how was I to know that the paper wouldn't support my weight?"

He and his succesors took a brief ride with me on my way to work, and never returned. As others here have mentioned, it was autumn, our housing estate had been built in the middle of fields, and seemed to offer over-winter lodging to everything around.

Dave


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Subject: RE: BS: Non-violent anti-mouse techniques?
From: Joe Offer
Date: 15 Nov 04 - 08:07 PM

As some of you may have noticed in another thread, I've been having problems with mice or rats or squirrels or some kind of rodent eating my car. The most interesting suggestion I got was to ward them off with dog or cat urine. We have two very productive puppies, so I'm trying their contributions first. They pee on newspaper, and then I run out to the shed and dump the urine onto the exhaust manifold. I'll let you know how it works.
-Joe Offer, Urine Collector-


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Subject: RE: BS: Non-violent anti-mouse techniques?
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 15 Nov 04 - 08:04 PM

Get a coiuple of cats. They don't really need to be good musers, the idea is the mice aren't stupid enough to move into a placed filled with cats. Anyway, we never have mice in the house.

Of course we quite often find the odd mouse from the garden laid out neatly by the back door. I think it's our cats' way of saying "Thank you."


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Subject: RE: BS: Non-violent anti-mouse techniques?
From: Blissfully Ignorant
Date: 15 Nov 04 - 07:57 PM

I just catch them in a box and put them outside...well, we don't get many any more, becasue we got two good mousing cats...one for outside, one for inside! You have to be quick with the box though, and unsqeamish about getting close to the mices.

I had a dead mouse (or something) under the floor, the smell goes away by itself in a couple of weeks, inscense, air freshener, or an oil burner will cover it up pretty well until it goes :0)


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Subject: RE: BS: Non-violent anti-mouse techniques?
From: mack/misophist
Date: 15 Nov 04 - 07:20 PM

If you do get a cat, try to find one whose mother is a good mouser. They think it's a learned skill. The one time I had a mouse, the cats just chased it until it keeled over.


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Subject: RE: BS: Non-violent anti-mouse techniques?
From: katlaughing
Date: 15 Nov 04 - 07:15 PM

I think it was Bat Goddess who recommended peppermint oil? along all of your cabinet bases, etc.


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Subject: RE: BS: Non-violent anti-mouse techniques?
From: GUEST,milk monitor
Date: 15 Nov 04 - 06:46 PM

bbc I sympathise! When I moved into where I am now, I had a bad case of smelly mouse. Because I had just moved in I wasn't sure what this strange, sweet, sickly smell was...I also had leaky pipes and rotten floor boards, so just thought it was a 'damp' and 'falling apart' house smell.

After weeks of building works the smell was still there and worse. Eventually the kitchen cupboards were ripped out, and there it was, under the sink one, behind the facia at the bottom. It looked like a furry grey lump of soap, only recognisable of having breathed by the stench of rotting flesh. It would have stopped smelling once all the fat had disappeared and there was just bone left....according to the really nice builder who removed it.

Try and pinpoint where the smell is strongest and have a dig around.
But yes, a cat is probably the way to go. Good Luck!


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Subject: RE: BS: Non-violent anti-mouse techniques?
From: Jeri
Date: 15 Nov 04 - 06:36 PM

How to get rid of mice: Personally, I go with squishing. After the first couple, I got a whole lot less squeamish. You can get them off glue traps with cooking oil, but it's really not worth it. The Hav-a-Heart traps are probably best. A cat might work too, but would definitely not be non-violent. Squishing's probably more humane.

Regarding traps disappearing - sometimes they don't land on a part of the mouse necessary for the continued existance of the mouse, and the mouse drags the trap elsewhere. Your friend will eventually find it, perhaps with mouse attached.

As to the nasty new smell and "Could a mouse have died somewhere?" Yes.
"how to find & remove the corpse or will it, eventually, stop smelling"
They always stop smelling eventually, and a new one takes its place. My own opinion is that it's impossible to find the little corpses when one is looking for them, and they have a tendency to die in places humans don't even consider looking and can't get to anyway. Mice are small, though. It usually doesn't take too long before they become little mouse-mummies.


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Subject: RE: BS: Non-violent anti-mouse techniques?
From: Shanghaiceltic
Date: 15 Nov 04 - 06:33 PM

Check it for a street map before you release it.


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Subject: RE: BS: Non-violent anti-mouse techniques?
From: Peace
Date: 15 Nov 04 - 06:31 PM

bbc: Field mice is a kinda generic term. Some of those field mice may be deer mice, and they carry disease that can be very dangerous to humans. (Parvovirus.) Basically, the infection can spread to humans from the droppings, saliva or urine of the mice.

Wear a face mask--dust mask from a hradware store of the kind used by drywallers, when you handle the things, dead or alive, and latex gloves to clean the messes you find. Use a bleach solution.

Live trapping the cute little things will not do you much good if you don't take them far away for release. They reproduce fairly quickly, and there are LOTS of them, so don't feel you'll damage the ecosystem by killing a few tens of thousands.

I have lived through a "field mouse" infestation. Take it seriously. You may have to kill gangs of them, like it or not. Alternative is to get a cat. That will help. But use the traps, too.


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Subject: RE: BS: Non-violent anti-mouse techniques?
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 15 Nov 04 - 06:24 PM

To release a mouse into the 'wilds', you have to drive them at least 2-3 miles away... otherwise the little buggers just come back, now that they've found a source of peanut butter. If you dump him in a place that has an alternative food source, he may fare better.

Of course, your local council may have its own eradication programme, it's always worth asking.. If they are a humane council, they will have an approved 'release' site.

Failing that, get a cat or two. That way you only find half a mouse.

LTS


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Subject: BS: Non-violent anti-mouse techniques?
From: bbc
Date: 15 Nov 04 - 06:19 PM

The weather has turned cold in New York & enterprising field mice are seeking warmer lodgings--notably in the cabinet under my kitchen sink! I can't deal w/ smooshing mice, so I bought a Hav-a-Heart trap. I baited it w/ peanut butter & had a mouse the same day! Took him across the street from my house to an open field & I do believe I had the same mouse in the trap the next day! Today, I drove him down the road to the local transfer station (dump). I wonder if he will find his way back (or if he has friends)? Are there any ways to get mice out of the house that don't involve poisoning, gluing, or squishing them? I don't have anything against mice, personally; I just don't want them to share my living quarters! BTW, I have a less tender-hearted friend who also has a mouse problem. He has traditional traps scattered throughout his (large) house. To date, 2 of them have mysteriously walked away. One more question--there's a nasty new smell in my house. Could a mouse have died somewhere? If so, how to find & remove the corpse or will it, eventually, stop smelling. Sigh.

Thanks for any advice,

bbc


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