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Bitching about the Mike Harding show

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pavane 20 Oct 04 - 11:01 AM
Dave the Gnome 20 Oct 04 - 11:31 AM
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Pete_Standing 21 Oct 04 - 06:24 AM
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Subject: RE: Bitching about the Mike Harding show
From: pavane
Date: 20 Oct 04 - 11:01 AM

Unfortunately, the MH show is about the only one I get a chance to tune in to. I don't yet have broadband at home, as it was not available in our area until recently. And I work away from home all week, so I can't get anything else (no TV, no Internet).

I do have a number of old programs on tape, going back to Folk Song Cellar (C 1965?), and agree that some of these were DIRE! That doesn't mean that we couldn't do better, still using many of the relatively unknown performers who can be seen in the clubs, rather than the few 'celebs' on the current list.


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Subject: RE: Bitching about the Mike Harding show
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 20 Oct 04 - 11:31 AM

It's like the proverbial curates egg - good in parts. The only thing we will never agreee on is which parts!

There is other folk played on Radio 2. The 1/2 hour odd slots they do are often folk related. Bob Harris plays a lot of folk - from all over the world (including England!) on his Friday and Saturday shows as well as in new country.

Most of the presenters do, quite often, play folk music. I have heard Mike Silver on the Wogan show, Les Barker played on Ken Bruce and Sarah Kennedy and even Steve Wright has been known to play Jim Moray!

OK - It's not ideal but we are getting there. Come the revolution brothers we will all wear arran pullies and beards. Even the women...

Cheers

DtG


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Subject: RE: Bitching about the Mike Harding show
From: Folkiedave
Date: 20 Oct 04 - 05:59 PM

Tonight Wednesday Radio three Late Junction - Kerfuffle (who might just make it to the final of the Young Tradition Awards if you can get a bet with a bookmaker take it!! Followed by Shirley and Dolly Collins at Sidmouth.

Brilliant. And that's only 30 mins into programme.

To anyone responsible - keep up the good work......

Dave
www.collectorsfolk.co.uk


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Subject: RE: Bitching about the Mike Harding show
From: Pete_Standing
Date: 21 Oct 04 - 06:24 AM

I've just sent this message to the BBC feedback page.

Whilst the current programme on Radio 2 (the Mike Harding show) is very popular with a lot of listeners, an additional programme which concentrates on the traditional music and song of the British Isles would be popular too. The current programme has a very wide remit and tends to concentrate on the more well known aspects of folk, roots and acoustic music; a more specialist programme could introduce less well known artists, cover festivals, concerts, clubs and sessions, thereby alerting listeners to more of what is going on around the country. Country music, which is not indigenous to these islands, has two programmes of one hour each. In the past, the BBC has championed traditional music by sponsoring collectors, such as the late Bob Copper (as featured recently in a documentary on BBC4) and to show that folk music is at least the equal of its modern American contemporary would be most welcome.


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Subject: RE: Bitching about the Mike Harding show
From: muppett
Date: 21 Oct 04 - 06:35 AM


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Subject: RE: Bitching about the Mike Harding show
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull
Date: 22 Oct 04 - 05:23 AM


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Subject: RE: Bitching about the Mike Harding show
From: muppett
Date: 04 Nov 04 - 08:20 AM

I'm listening to the recording of last night's show and he played the song that came 2nd (or last) in the text request. What do you read into that then !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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Subject: RE: Bitching about the Mike Harding show
From: MoorleyMan
Date: 04 Nov 04 - 10:49 AM

Compare the similarly-billed Harding and Paul Jones programmes that advertised "including a chat with" a special guest.
Last week or the week before, Mike H's billed "special interview" slot devoted less than ten minutes in total out of the hour's show to Debby McClatchy and Banjo Ray between them (much of which time was taken up with playing album tracks), and what little chat there was, it was superficial at best;
whereas Paul Jones last week had a brilliant, informative and detailed chat with Shirley Collins about her American trip with Alan Lomax in '59 that took up the whole show.
Unless I've missed something really basic here, I think that comparison speaks volumes about how seriously the different programmes take their listeners. Need I say more?


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Subject: RE: Bitching about the Mike Harding show
From: GUEST,punkfolkrocker
Date: 04 Nov 04 - 01:37 PM

..and i still ask the same question
i asked earlier..
about the fundamental reason i can no longer
be bothered with Mike Hardings's show..

does he still show disrespect and disregard
for
artists and listeners

by TALKING OVER

live/studio session recordings..!!??

and thus ruining otherwise unobtainable music...

Btw.. one major issue about other regional shows
being available via overhyped internet broadband..
the sound quality can still be abysmal anddisapointing
to try to enjoy fully..

it seems modern technological progress
has taken us back closer to the days of crystal radio reception..

anyway, it would be more appropriate and convenient
if mick pete etc were more easily available
in 'hi fi' via sky satellite
or nationwide DAB..

[anyone know if real progress is being made in this direction..?]

cheers..


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Subject: RE: Bitching about the Mike Harding show
From: chris nightbird childs
Date: 04 Nov 04 - 01:40 PM

I like Mike's show. It's not going to please everyone, but the music is good. We have terrible radio here in the states! BBC is a welcome change! In the old days it was the opposite I hear... I'm just a wee lad ya know.


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Subject: RE: Bitching about the Mike Harding show
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull
Date: 04 Nov 04 - 02:02 PM

Muppet-I heard it as well, I reckon that "text in for your track to be played" thing, was a complete bloody con!
for them that don't know what were on about=
Last week Mike Harding gave a special text number for people to get their choice [out of 2 selections!] played on air, last week they played the wnner, this week they played the runner up [Martin Carthy].

I reckon the text lark was a money making scam, with the money raised from texts either going to Mike Harding, Smooth Operations or the BBC.

you see a lot of this nowadays, ie on the BBC car programme Top Gear, they asked a ridiculousy easy question, ie What is that hot yellow thing that shines in the sky, and rhymes with bun
A-The Sun
B-Tony Blair
or C-A cheese and onion sandwidge?

texts cost a pound each, complete bloody con.

Anyway, mike harding show is crap, he describes everything as "Fantastic!, plays the same stuff all the time, [Eliza Carthy, Kate Rusby, or Cara Dillon], and he talks over the records.


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Subject: RE: Bitching about the Mike Harding show
From: chris nightbird childs
Date: 04 Nov 04 - 02:05 PM

Yes John, I heard that. He didn't play the Fotheringay tune, but he played Martin Carthy. I still thought it was a good show, but that perplexed me...


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Subject: RE: Bitching about the Mike Harding show
From: Skipjack K8
Date: 04 Nov 04 - 03:41 PM

The sun, jOhn.


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Subject: RE: Bitching about the Mike Harding show
From: muppett
Date: 05 Nov 04 - 09:01 AM

Here's a thought re the so called text in scam,

The programme runs for a little under an hour, so maybe The Martin Carthy song wasn't played originally because of time constraints ?


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Subject: RE: Bitching about the Mike Harding show
From: Pete_Standing
Date: 05 Nov 04 - 07:06 PM

Programme minus news at the beginning and trailer for something in the middle that we are not interested in is about 57 mins, minus Banks of the Nile, about 48 mins, minus Famous Flower of Serving Men about 38 mins. Time for a few fantastics, bluegrass, country, American singer songwriter stuff, R&B, this weeks top ten, Kate Rusby, what we're having next week, plugs for Young Folk Oblivion award, plugs for Folk Oscars and there is still plenty of time left over for more of the best in folk, acoustic and roots music.


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