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Subject: No SIDMOUTH
From: Scooby Doo
Date: 29 Jul 04 - 05:03 PM

Is there any Mudcatters who have not gone to Sidmouth?????


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Subject: RE: No SIDMOUTH
From: PoppaGator
Date: 29 Jul 04 - 05:04 PM

Certainly -- not just me, but probably most of us outside the UK.


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Subject: RE: No SIDMOUTH
From: Scooby Doo
Date: 29 Jul 04 - 05:06 PM

I have not been for several years and i wondered how many UK mudcatters did not go foe what ever reason.Mine is to ill health before i became ill i went for 20 years.


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Subject: RE: No SIDMOUTH
From: Linda Kelly
Date: 29 Jul 04 - 05:08 PM

I've never been, way too far for me! Enjoy it those that are going!


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Subject: RE: No SIDMOUTH
From: Scooby Doo
Date: 29 Jul 04 - 05:12 PM

I use to enjoy the festival especially the MBS and the Arena with the foreign sides but i am unable to do what i did in those days.


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Subject: RE: No SIDMOUTH
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 29 Jul 04 - 05:41 PM

I am not there.

Indeed some say I am not all there!


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Subject: RE: No SIDMOUTH
From: Hawker
Date: 29 Jul 04 - 05:55 PM

Scooby, we are not there, too busy!
Cheers Lucy


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Subject: RE: No SIDMOUTH
From: Scooby Doo
Date: 29 Jul 04 - 06:04 PM

Hawker good to hear from you.
lots of love Yas


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Subject: RE: No SIDMOUTH
From: treewind
Date: 29 Jul 04 - 06:07 PM

We're going on Sunday and coming back on Monday night!
Anahata


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Subject: RE: No SIDMOUTH
From: Skipjack K8
Date: 29 Jul 04 - 06:08 PM

I'll probably get shedloads of justifiable flak for this, and my terms of reference are massively flawed in that I've never been to Sidmouth, Whitby or Cambridge. From my reading here, and talking to people, I will venture this observation.

Cambridge seems to be a Folk Music Festival. By folk music, I mean the Louis Armstrong definition ('All music is folk music. I ain't never seen no horse sing a song'). People go to see a wide spectrum of world music, and it exists solely as a series of musical performances. Sidmouth, Whitby and many smaller gatherings seem to be Folk Festivals, where it is being a folkie that is being celebrated, seeing and being seen, and the music encountered is somehow secondary to the cult of 'being there'.

Battle bowlers on............


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Subject: RE: No SIDMOUTH
From: Scooby Doo
Date: 29 Jul 04 - 06:12 PM

We all have our opinions of festivals and listening to radio 2 about Cambridge i believe your right on that issue.I have never been to CambridgE or Whitby,but as all ways peeps will say what a fine festival they are,so who are we to say any different except in what we believe in and thats traditional folk.


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Subject: RE: No SIDMOUTH
From: *Laura*
Date: 29 Jul 04 - 06:35 PM

I'm off tomorrow! yipeeee! very very excited!


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Subject: RE: No SIDMOUTH
From: Dead Horse
Date: 29 Jul 04 - 06:44 PM

Broadstairs for me, & if ya wanna hear a horse sing a song........


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Subject: RE: No SIDMOUTH
From: Leadfingers
Date: 29 Jul 04 - 07:20 PM

Skip , I agree with you to a certain extent , but there is a Hell of a lot of 'networking' at sidders ,as well as some incredible sessions . Whatever your particular preference in Folk is , you ought to find it in at least ONE of the pubs during the week . The English Tune is in The Radway all week The Irish Tune is Top bar at the Anchor
all week , Unaccompanied Singing in the Middle Bar at the Anchor all week , a 'sit in a circle' singaround at The Faulkner every evening and Mixed sessions at The Swan and The NewTavern ,as well as The Bedford which usually has TWO sessions going at a time . Then there are the Theatre Bar and a lot of Movable sessions in other pubs .


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Subject: RE: No SIDMOUTH
From: Blowzabella
Date: 29 Jul 04 - 08:16 PM

I ain't never been to Sidmouth. The main reason probably being that, for the last ten years (the length of time I could probably have afforded to go to Sidmouth)I have had a job which made getting away for any part of the time in August absolutely impossible. And I mean absolutely.   ...Never mind...I've survived...


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Subject: RE: No SIDMOUTH
From: treewind
Date: 29 Jul 04 - 08:18 PM

No Skip - here's my idea of some differences between Cambridge and festivals like Sidmouth and Whitby:
1 - people go to both for the music, but they like different kinds of music
2 - People go to Sidders and Whitby much more to participate, not just to listen. Especially Sidmouth with its numerous workshops.
3 - What Leadfingers said about networking. Though THE networking festival is the National at Sutton Bonington, which is full of organisers who go there to chat, gossip and throw around ideas and plans with each other.

Anyway, I'd hate all festivals to be the same!

Anahata


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Subject: RE: No SIDMOUTH
From: GUEST,Raggytash
Date: 30 Jul 04 - 04:15 AM

Skip ........ can't agree with you ..... I go to Whitby every year not to be seen but for the crack ......... the first time I went 15 years ago I thought I'd died and gone to heaven. I walked into the Plough on a Saturday lunchtime, unaware the festival even existed, and found not one but 5 separate sessions going, one in the front room, one in each of the back rooms, singing was coming from the club room upstairs and the garden was full of people with instruments and singing.
Never been to Cambridge, doesn't appeal, and Sidmouth is too far, distance wise, and too close to Whitby financially


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Subject: RE: No SIDMOUTH
From: GUEST,MC Fat
Date: 30 Jul 04 - 04:37 AM

I definitely won't be there but Ken Johnson will be and Owain so there will be a lot of Sheffield Folk Festival leaflets around


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Subject: RE: No SIDMOUTH
From: Dave Hanson
Date: 30 Jul 04 - 05:06 AM

Whitby is technically not a ' Folk Festival ' it is simply the the best place in the world to go to, sing, play, listen, talk, drink and enjoy any kind of folk music, and more.

eric


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Subject: RE: No SIDMOUTH
From: GUEST,Woodchip
Date: 30 Jul 04 - 05:11 AM

Another alternative to Sidmouth - there's a weekend 'folk gathering' at Hardraw (up int Dales) - concerts from 2 -5pm - sessions and singarounds from 5pm - concerts from 8-midnight (even till 1am!) - £8 a day ticket - Bob Fox, Duncan McFarlane Band (acoustic) and Howden/Jones (and MANY more!) - dancing, heck! all sorts of goings-on - all based round the 'Dragon' pub there. I'm off to see DMcF at 3.30 SAt aft and 8pm Sat eve - but it all starts tonight (Fri) and finishes midnight Sunday.
All the w's dot, then hardrawgathering.co.uk should find it (can't fathom the blue clicky things here). See ya!?!


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Subject: RE: No SIDMOUTH
From: ChocolateLover
Date: 30 Jul 04 - 06:03 AM

I'm not at Sidmouth owing to very new mudcatter at home (9 weeks old) but happy to admit I'm jealous of those who are going . . .

ChocolateLover


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Subject: RE: No SIDMOUTH
From: Skipjack K8
Date: 30 Jul 04 - 06:05 AM

Interesting responses, and I unconditionally take on board the happy experiences recounted. I may even do a Kevin Turvey and investigate folk festivals, and try and make the arse end of Whitby week this year. Please be gentle with me.


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Subject: RE: No SIDMOUTH
From: muppett
Date: 30 Jul 04 - 06:24 AM

I've been to Sidmouth a few times,as a child our family holiday was at me Granny's in Exmouth just along the coast, but never been when the festival has been on.


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Subject: RE: No SIDMOUTH
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull
Date: 30 Jul 04 - 06:40 AM

Skipjack-if you go to whitby=avoid the sandwidge bar on the main road, its a big rip off,
I went last year, got 2 tuna sandwidges and a small bun, it was 5 quid!, i said to woman "5 quid, you must be bloody joking, you can buy a house in Hull for that!".


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Subject: RE: No SIDMOUTH
From: GUEST,Anne Croucher
Date: 30 Jul 04 - 02:46 PM

Yess YES Sidmouth

The car is outside, the sleeping kit is packed, the cooking stuff in a box, musical instruments in a heap.

I CAN'T FIND THE DRUMSTICKS NOR THE KEY AND THE THING IS ALL FLOPPY I THE HEAT!!! SERVES YOU RIGHT FOR BUYING PLASTIC!!

People are worried about dinner and their washing not done HAA - don't they know what the important things in life are - at the moment it is wooden drumsticks not chicken ones -

I supose I could always use knitting needles - the big ones which cost a fortune with the full kit to make the jumper that I never made because the only thing to make with that yarn was pan scourers.

I am going to Sidmouth - YAAAAAY!!!

Now can I fit a bicycle in? - good job we got a big car - thank you Mr X Trail. Oh joy joy joy - Sidmouth for a whole week.

Anne


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Subject: RE: No SIDMOUTH
From: GUEST,Santa
Date: 30 Jul 04 - 04:12 PM

Went to Sidmouth a few years back, wouldn't go again. Not enough folk song, too much diddley-diddley, dancing, and "world music". One pub seemed to have the same tune being played all day every day all the time I was there. Which wouldn't have mattered but I had to walk past it when going from my hotel to the main arena. What singing sessions did exist were very in-groupish. "Now my old mate from Exeter would like to sing the same song he sings every year...."

There were some great concerts, and most people seemed to be enjoying themselves no end, my daughter loved it and went again the following year. So I guess it's mainly me being a non-singer non-musician non-dancer. However, my wife took part in the Sidmouth choir, and really enjoyed that, but she wouldn't go back to the festival either. We just love folk songs, and Sidmouth is not the place for that particular niche.


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Subject: RE: No SIDMOUTH
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 30 Jul 04 - 06:35 PM

I'm not going to Sidmouth, and neither is Limpit. Manitas is there only for the day, he's dancing.

Just as well really, it's too close to pay day to be sensible... I'd have nothing left for Towersey if I went!

LTS


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Subject: RE: No SIDMOUTH
From: running.hare
Date: 30 Jul 04 - 08:55 PM

I'm Heading down Tuesday after the dentist has had a good look at my toothies.
Was piginholed at Warwick... I't's a hard life!!!!! Oh well at least I now have a Mudcat Badge :-D


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Subject: RE: No SIDMOUTH
From: Hawker
Date: 31 Jul 04 - 07:39 AM

Skipjack K8,
I am not one to say whether a festival is good or bad (unless it is REALLY BAD) but Sidmouth is big and varied, there is a lot of what you imagined going on, but there is also a lot going on on the fringe, stuff you don't need to buy a season ticket for and great sing arounds and sessions going on in most pubs. Festivals are what you make of them, they are set up for us to go and enjoy ourselves at. If you like the smaller more friendly festival, you couldn't go far wrong than going to Dartmoor Folk Festival at South Zeal, Devon which starts next Fiday 6th 7th & 8th August wherever you go & whatever you do, enjoy!
Cheers, Lucy


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Subject: RE: No SIDMOUTH
From: Scooby Doo
Date: 31 Jul 04 - 08:20 AM

With Sidmouth like any other large festival you have too except that you will never see everything on the programme.Also the festival is what you make out of it and what you enjoy,i remember days of sitting in the Anchor with the MBS then Toby came along and i spent my time in the Arena with times dropping into the Anchor.I dont think i ever left Sidmouth regreting that i missed so much only reliving the friends i had met old and new and what a good holiday i had.
If you want a small festival to go too then try Miskin next Easter,i am sure you have heard of the festival.Its small friendly and you can see most of the programme.I am sure Hawker will back me up on this festival.


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Subject: RE: No SIDMOUTH
From: Scooby Doo
Date: 01 Aug 04 - 07:24 AM

I am sure there are more people here who have not gone to Sidmouth.In 23 years i have only missed 7 due to been seriously ill in hospital.This year i could not afford a ticket as i am off to Rome for Christmas.


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Subject: RE: No SIDMOUTH
From: GUEST,padgett
Date: 02 Aug 04 - 07:46 AM

I'm sitting here doing nowt ~ I've been to Sidmouth twice, once with Johnny Booker and once I went on mi' tod ~ it's a long way
Fortunately as I remember the weather was 'ot and I tan easily; first time I saw Bob Copper and Jim LLoyd and a song competition in the beach hut?
Also met and saw Harry Boardman and Rod Shearman, must be in the '70s
Getting to sing was difficult. one year Sean Cannon was booked there and was living in Barnsley, he was having throat problems, funny what u remember!
I'm looking forward to Saltburn and Whitby ff (nearly 35 yrs) and old friends and new in the Tap n Spile
Festivals are for meeting people and I've met and known a lot of 'em
Perhaps one or two Northern based groups could be booked at festivals such as The National and Sidmouth, or am I not looking hard enough?
The Wilson Family for one, as leaders in harmony and tradition would grace any southern festival~ they are diamonds yet to be discovered by many festival organisers.
They'll be at Saltburn along with usually Vin Garbutt and Marie Little, both northern gems


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Subject: RE: No SIDMOUTH
From: brid widder
Date: 02 Aug 04 - 02:57 PM

I've never been to Sidmouth... too far. & far too dear... it seems to me that Southern folkies do Sidmouth & Northern folkies do Whitby ... Beardy is there, but he is a southerner... I don't think he's too bothered about Whitby but we will both be there... for the first part of the week at least.
At whitby I don't need a ticket, I spend the whole week with friends, I'm not sure I would have the same experience at Sidmouth, anyway because of work committments it has to be one or the other so the hour and a bit journey wins over the several hours one...


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Subject: RE: No SIDMOUTH
From: Scooby Doo
Date: 02 Aug 04 - 03:17 PM

i think your right though people from different parts of the country go to Sidmouth or Whitby.Mind i have friends who come down from Scotland to do Sidmouth and friends from Wales who do Whitby,so the idea of North and South divide does'nt seem to work.


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Subject: RE: No SIDMOUTH
From: synbyn
Date: 02 Aug 04 - 05:40 PM

Broadstairs for the atmosphere - all that Thanet breeze... Does anyone go to them all? Sidmouth once, immediately saw session leader from Kent! Whitby, bumped straight into Headcorn Morris! Each to their own; I found B'stairs peretty relaxed..


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Subject: RE: No SIDMOUTH
From: PennyBlack
Date: 02 Aug 04 - 07:00 PM

Not there this year but me lad's down their now going around all the haunts we brought him up with and playing all those chords he found himself.

PB


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Subject: RE: No SIDMOUTH
From: Scooby Doo
Date: 03 Aug 04 - 12:28 PM

Same as my son Penny,he steward last week and now doing the same 19 years after first going there.


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Subject: RE: No SIDMOUTH
From: Compton
Date: 03 Aug 04 - 12:45 PM

No I'm not there or Mrs Compton...We used to go when some thought was made to dance and the odd foreign team was there. It was when cheapo productions used to run it for fourpence...and they didn't need £200,000 in case it bloody rained. Whenit rained, when we go wet. End of story!
So no, we aren't there...and probably 9/10ths of the country are'nt there either!!


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Subject: RE: No SIDMOUTH
From: vectis
Date: 03 Aug 04 - 04:39 PM

I do all three synbyn. Fringe at Sidfmouth and Whitby. Performer at Broadstairs. All three entirely different from each other. Broadstairs has the best social side by a long chalk.
Sidmouth seems to roll up the pavements at midnight.
Whitby is fine if you're locked in.
Broadstairs is the only place you can party and play until dawn every night under cover and without disturbing campers and local residents.


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Subject: RE: No SIDMOUTH
From: Scooby Doo
Date: 03 Aug 04 - 05:14 PM

So if there is no Sidmouth next year and i am still able i can come to Broadstairs and enjoy myself for 24 hrs at least Vectis.


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Subject: RE: No SIDMOUTH
From: Fliss
Date: 03 Aug 04 - 06:06 PM

Cant afford Sidmouth. Cat sitting for friends who have gone tho!

Tend to stick to CHester, Warwick, not forgetting Festival of Edge & Jackfield in sunny Shropshire... thundry wet Shrops today. I save me pennies and go to the All Ireland Fleadh... love the diddly music.

Got another concertina recently so it will be taking a trip to Clonmel with me at end of August.

cheers
fliss


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Subject: RE: No SIDMOUTH
From: vectis
Date: 03 Aug 04 - 07:36 PM

You'd be welcome in Kent.
The chairperson of east devon district council assured hundreds of us on sunday morning that there would be a festival in Sidmouth in the first week of august 2005. It may be different but it will happen.
Watch this space??


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Subject: RE: No SIDMOUTH
From: Scooby Doo
Date: 04 Aug 04 - 05:49 AM

Thanks for the welcome to Kent its a little bit far from wet Wales,but i may pop over.There have been rumours going around for several weeks now through the Middle Bar Singers that there will be some sort of festival next year.Its interesting to hear it from the Council as well,Thanks for the info on that.


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Subject: RE: No SIDMOUTH
From: GUEST,Hugh Jampton
Date: 04 Aug 04 - 07:47 AM

Broadstairs! 24 hour wall to wall singing and playing. This has got to be ideal formula for knocking the enthusiasm for their choice of music out of anyone. It brings Furle to mind.


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Subject: RE: No SIDMOUTH
From: Scooby Doo
Date: 04 Aug 04 - 12:06 PM

That sounds like my sort of festival,if i only had transport to get me about.As i am semi-disabled i cant do too much walking either and tent on my back days have gone long time ago,but you never know i may get there one day.


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Subject: RE: No SIDMOUTH
From: vectis
Date: 04 Aug 04 - 08:51 PM

I think you mean Firle. That's a 12 hour sing in January in a pub with Harveys beer. Almost Heaven, needs to last longer for genuine Heaven though.


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Subject: RE: No SIDMOUTH
From: Scooby Doo
Date: 05 Aug 04 - 03:51 AM

We do that in Sidmouth in February we have a name also Middle Bar Singers.We sing for 24 hrs non stop with no repeats and the money we raise goes to some form of charity or the festival.


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Subject: RE: No SIDMOUTH
From: Scooby Doo
Date: 05 Aug 04 - 04:11 PM

Vectis Hi,
Do you sing for a charity as well or for fun?.It be very interesting to find that other festivals or clubs do the similar thing at different times off the year similar to what we seem to do.


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Subject: RE: No SIDMOUTH
From: vectis
Date: 05 Aug 04 - 07:17 PM

FUN FUN FUN.


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Subject: RE: No SIDMOUTH
From: GUEST,folkiedave
Date: 06 Aug 04 - 06:38 AM

An interent cafe somewhere in Sidmouth.

Been brilliant all week. Today (Fri.) it has just turned to rainy mist. Highlights? Kepa Junkera, Waterson Family, the weather, sessions in the Bedford, could go on.

Today'sa newsletter has a bit of a tear jerker from Mrs. Casey which makes it clear they will not be doing it anymore.

Shame. The organisation is brilliant.


Now off to Hungary for another festival.


Best regards,

folkiedave


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