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Subject: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: GUEST,Oliver Whistlemore
Date: 06 Jul 04 - 05:11 PM

I am Oliver Whistlemore, one of the founders of Toypresidents, a company which is endeavouring to render a public service by marketing a series of toy action figures of some of the most beloved Presidents of our country, such as Ronald Reagan and Abraham Lincoln for instance. We have a website at the following address:

Toypresidents

It has come to our attention that a group of idiots on this internet forum and another (where I am also posting this message) has taken it upon themselves to organize a "voting" campaign to make Millard Fillmore the most popular President in the history of the United States of America on our voting page. Millard Fillmore! You heard me right.

Well, it's an outrage! Here we are trying to respond to a loyal and freedom-loving American public and determine which past Presidents most merit being enshrined in a talking plastic action figure, and Millard Fillmore most certainly does not! He was, relatively speaking, a nobody. Even if we get 35,000 phony votes for Millard F-ing Fillmore, we will NEVER manufacture an action figure of him.

But due to the scurrilous and repetitive voting of these unemployed and idle provocateurs we now have more votes for Millard Fillmore entered in our website's voting tally than for Theodore Roosevelt or John F. Kennedy!!! (both of whom have been released as Toypresident action figures)

Believe me, we at Toypresidents are not going to stand idly by while our website is hijacked for the inane amusement of a bunch of unpatriotic layabouts. We are going to take stern action to halt this abuse of our good intentions.

I am requesting every loyal American who cares deeply about his country, its flag, and its constitution to go straight to Toypresidents this moment and vote AGAINST MILLARD FILLMORE! DO IT NOW! Vote for the three REAL most popular Presidents of your choice and drive Millard Fillmore back to the bottom of the heap where he so richly belongs!

Vote! Vote! Vote! We don't care if you vote for a Democrat or a Republican. We don't care if it's Clinton, Washington, Kennedy or Reagan. JUST DON'T VOTE FOR FILLMORE!!!!

I am so mad about this I could spit. If I ever get my hands on the fool on your forum who helped start this nonsense, who goes under the label "Catspaw49", I will tear him limb from limb!

Oliver Whistlemore


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: Jeri
Date: 06 Jul 04 - 05:41 PM

"Layabouts," huh? "Endeavouring"...oops!
Hmmm...

Hey - good ol' Millard's ahead of Nixon AND G.W.!!! Thanks for reminding us that there's still time to vote.


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: GUEST,Bill Clinton
Date: 06 Jul 04 - 05:43 PM

I would appreciate a few more votes too. Has everyone bought my book yet?


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: wysiwyg
Date: 06 Jul 04 - 05:56 PM

Well Bill, I heard Monica Lewinsky ate it up.

~S~


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: GUEST,Bill Clinton
Date: 06 Jul 04 - 06:01 PM

That's a rather insensitive remark. Don't you think I have taken enough already over those incidents? Fortunately, I am a forgiving person, and willing to live and let live. I think if you were to buy my book and read the whole account then you would see it in a more charitable light, "S".

By the way, Toypresidents has already done my figure, and it's a beaut. Go to their site and see.


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: Blackcatter
Date: 06 Jul 04 - 06:04 PM

Yo Bill,

You will never live downyour exploits simply because as the most powerful person on the planet, you chose less than stellar women to fool around with. As Marilyn Monroe once said, I knew JFK. JFK was a friend of mine, and Bill, you're are no JFK.


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: GUEST,Bill Clinton
Date: 06 Jul 04 - 06:09 PM

That was a low blow, Blackcatter. I may not be JFK, but I gave it my best shot. And look what you have now in the White House.


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: Blackcatter
Date: 06 Jul 04 - 06:19 PM

You wasted your shot on a fat, ugly Beverly Hills bitch. 'nuff said.


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: GUEST,Oliver Whistlemore
Date: 06 Jul 04 - 06:29 PM

Can we please get back to the point here? Stop voting for Millard Fillmore!


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 06 Jul 04 - 06:32 PM

They really should make a Monica attachment for the Clinton doll.


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 06 Jul 04 - 06:36 PM

I see they have a write-in box for "accessories", so Monica would fit in there fine. And maybe the cigar.


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: GUEST,Oliver Whistlemore
Date: 06 Jul 04 - 06:52 PM

I'm beginning to see what we're dealing with here. A bunch of immature, disrespectul minds. The dregs of society.


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: SINSULL
Date: 06 Jul 04 - 06:56 PM

There is a Tibetan museum on Staten Island, NY with a collection of gods and goddesses that do "fit" together. Strange toy to give your children but a perfect model for a Lewinsky/Clinton combo.

I contacted several relatives and gave them hell for not voting. Responses are coming in. They are all voting for Dolly Madison because they like her cakes.


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: Irish sergeant
Date: 06 Jul 04 - 08:43 PM

Oliver:
If you don't want people to vote for Fillmore why did you put his name in contention? Don't crab about people being immature when you opened the floodgates. I dispute that Ronald Reagan is one of the most beloved presidents of our nation.
By the way most of the people who responded to YOUR campaign are neither idiots, lay-abouts or unemployed. As a real American, I find your remarks about "Real Americans" insulting. How much time did you spend in a hostile fire zone for our nation? Did it occur to you that as real Americans and other nationalities they gave your absurdity the response it so richly deserved? Get a life and get off your high horse you pompous ass!


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: SINSULL
Date: 07 Jul 04 - 12:50 PM

From the website:
"The action figures contain small parts that can be pulled off and the suit and boots can be removed. These small parts can present a choking hazard for small children so we recommend that children under 8 be supervised closely and the action figure should be placed out of reach for interns and children under 3 years of age."

Are these figures anatomically correct? Is the Clinton doll the only one with a "guaranteed true to the original" penis given that he is the only one whose member had to be photographed for a line-up?

Does Sarge know that Oliver Whistlemore is actually Spaw out trying to get more votes for Millard?

Does anyone here have a life?


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: GUEST
Date: 07 Jul 04 - 12:56 PM

yes.
yes.
no.
no.


The action figures contain small parts - heh-heh-heh snigger snigger The action figures contain small parts


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: GUEST
Date: 07 Jul 04 - 12:59 PM

Oliver is being very clever. By telling us not to vote for Fillmore he is actually saying to vote for Fillmore in a Republican manner of speaking. He means the opposite of what he says. But because we know his game now, we can actually out manoeuver him by voting for Fillmore and thus disallowing people like Reaga--who is really the person Spaw wants to see on top--from becoming Monica Lewinski dolls. A vote for Fillmore is a vote for Monica and Cuban cigars. VOTE FILLMORE.


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: DMcG
Date: 07 Jul 04 - 01:09 PM

I am requesting every loyal American who cares deeply about his country, its flag, and its constitution to go straight to Toypresidents this moment and vote AGAINST MILLARD FILLMORE!


I'm British. Is it ok for me to keep voting for Fillmore?


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: GUEST,Oliver Whistlemore
Date: 07 Jul 04 - 01:10 PM

Irish Sergeant, you had better hope that you never cross my path in future.

The figures are not fully anatomically correct, of course, but they are quite realistic. The Clinton figure does NOT include any extras, but is like the rest, aside from head sculpt and clothing. We do not manufacture a 2nd rate product at Toypresidents nor do we pander to the prurient interests of closet perverts who would use our figures for improper purposes. Furthermore, I am not "Spaw". Who is "Spaw"? I can see we are going to have to revamp the entire voting software, as there is no use reasoning with you people.


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: Bo Vandenberg
Date: 07 Jul 04 - 10:48 PM

Anatomic correctness and a Monica Lewinsky bobbing head....

Funny it was good enough for the real president but not fit for the toy. There's something pithy in there.


For the record Bill, I dont care about your sex life & dont think the country should either. You were pushed to reveal useless junk while Bush is helped to conceal crucial lies.

Sigurd


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: GUEST
Date: 07 Jul 04 - 11:22 PM

Ya ever wonder before we all knew about Monica why he had that silly grin on his face?


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: LadyJean
Date: 08 Jul 04 - 12:56 AM

Right all you British Catters, David Lloyd George was one of your greatest prime ministers, and one of your greatest horn dogs. I think he made a pass at my grandmother. Quit talking about Clinton. He wasn't a patch on Lloyd George.


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: DMcG
Date: 08 Jul 04 - 03:25 AM

The important difference between LLoyd George's case and Clinton's is thatin LG case, almost no-one thought it has the slightest bearing on how good a leader he was. (In my view, they were right!)


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: catspaw49
Date: 08 Jul 04 - 08:19 AM

LMAO......Hawk, your shit gets more transparent all the time! Thanks for the topic refresh and I hope everyone casts a vote or ten for Millard and Abby. I was willing to call it a day when he was tenth but a group of the speedfreaks want a "podium finish." So we've kept it going over there although it has slowed down a bit.

We started with only about 250 votes for Millard and at the current time are at 3563......not too shaggy!   When we hit 5th place where we are now, the jump to the next position really became significant. Before that time there was only something less than 300 votes between president at the most. Jefferson was 1500 votes ahead and the task looked impossible but we have actually cut that to 931 as of this morning.

And yes Hawk, at a few levels like Teddy Roosevelt and JFK it became obvious that someone had even more time than we did and was doing some ballot stuffing of their own. Nice try Hawkster but no cigar. I don't know that the group will elect to continue on a lot longer because like here, after awhile a joke just wears out!!! But know this you simpleass Mamalucca, you will have had zipshit fuck all to do with it! (:<)) I love ya' Hawk, a man after my own heart, but like I said, your shit is getting transparent as hell although it still stinks for some reason........Oh yeah, let me leave you with this:

BBBBRRRRRAAAAAWWWWWMMMMMPPPP

.........ahhhhh.......good one.......all yours Hawkster......LMAO...............

Spaw


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 08 Jul 04 - 09:05 AM

Heh! My "shit" is getting so transparent because you are getting to know me so well. I'll have to start imitating someone else's writing style soon. That would be hard work, and I'm essentially a pretty lazy bugger, so....

Well, I gotta think about it.

But I am troubled by your assertion that I have had "zipshit fuck all to do with" electing or not electing Fillmore. In fact, it was only due to the valiant efforts of myself and a few other people that Bill Clinton became, for awhile, the most popular president at Toypresidents and Hillary nailed, for awhile, the number one spot among first ladies! We did it just to annoy the Republicans, who deserve to be annoyed in my opinion.

The trouble was, the fuckers became aware of it at some point...and then Reagan died! And they went nuts and started pouring in votes for Reagan and Laura Welch Bush. You see the sad results. A man with only 3 working brain cells (when he was in the Oval Office, I mean) is now sharing top spot with a woman that has all the charm and charisma of a bowl of day-old oatmeal.

It's disgusting.

I am going right now to put in another couple of votes for Bill and Hillary. And not Fillmore. No sir. I wouldn't vote for Fillmore if you paid me to. And there's nothing you can do about it, you megamamalluca!


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: GUEST,Hugh Jampton
Date: 08 Jul 04 - 10:29 AM

Was not Millard Fillmore responsible for getting Congress to pass the "Fresh Air Act" whereby all bordellos shall be air conditioned. Now`t wrong with that!! He gets my vote.


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 08 Jul 04 - 12:42 PM

A vote for Millard Fillmore is a vote for incontinence and lack of sobriety. Besides, what about Franklin Pierce?


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: GUEST
Date: 08 Jul 04 - 12:43 PM

what about him?


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 08 Jul 04 - 12:57 PM

As a president who truly mastered mediocrity he deserves to get some votes too.


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: GUEST,MMario
Date: 08 Jul 04 - 12:59 PM

never fear LH - he has gotton some.


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 08 Jul 04 - 01:00 PM

Well, what I mean is he deserves about as many as Millard Fillmore.


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: Blackcatter
Date: 08 Jul 04 - 01:29 PM

Start voting LH - no one's stopping you!

A bunch of us have voted for a bunch of them. I've been working on and off to elevate the mediocre over the evil. That Nixon is so high is scary. For awhile, we had Washington over Reagan, but then he finally up and died and screwed that all up.


Oliver Whistlemore - ifn your real, why do you reset the voting to zero?


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 08 Jul 04 - 01:32 PM

Oh, I do vote. Like I said, I got Clinton in top spot for awhile (weeks ago), but then Reagan died and that put an end to that! I called up Bill and asked him if he is willing to die to get top spot. He said, "Not yet."


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: GUEST,Americans for Fillard Willmore
Date: 08 Jul 04 - 02:05 PM

Fillard Willmore deserves a special place in history.


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: Hrothgar
Date: 09 Jul 04 - 04:31 AM

Just keep voting for dear, sweet, Frances.


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: GUEST
Date: 09 Jul 04 - 08:11 AM

it was on this day many years ago Millard became President...


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: Irish sergeant
Date: 09 Jul 04 - 10:16 AM

Oliver:
You are of course, free to dispute what I say., If I don't cross your path, that is fine with me but I will state right now. I don't take well to threats.
   This is neither the time or place to indulge in a pissing contest. I responded to what I felt was a slur on my country and my fellow mudcatters. I spent my time in combat for this country and I figure that pretty much gives me the right to air my views without being threatened for it. My Pm is available if you wish to discuss this off board. Irish Sergeant (AKA Neil K> MAcMillan Vietnam era Vet AND COMBAT VET OF THE GULF WAR)


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: GUEST,Blackcatter at work (Shhhh)
Date: 09 Jul 04 - 04:05 PM

Hello all,

Tis true - Fillmore became president in 1850 on this day. Show him your love by voting!


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: SINSULL
Date: 09 Jul 04 - 07:57 PM

FOUL!!!!! They have changed the rules on the site and you can no longer vote 1st, 2nd, and 3rd place to one president. I want a recount. Hey you! Your chads are hanging. Cover up for god's sake.


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: GUEST
Date: 09 Jul 04 - 08:37 PM

You haven't been able to vote that way for ages.


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: YOR
Date: 09 Jul 04 - 10:00 PM

OK, I just voted for Millard Fillmore. Are we allowed to vote more than once.


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: GUEST
Date: 09 Jul 04 - 10:03 PM

Yes, but leave about 20 minutes between votes.

If you vote for Fillmore, choose someone else for second and yet someone else for third. Choose people like Buchanan and Polk or Tyler. They won't go anywhere.


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: YOR
Date: 09 Jul 04 - 10:29 PM

I did better than that, Chester Arthur got one of my votes.


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: GUEST
Date: 10 Jul 04 - 12:27 AM

Yo, bro, go, go go!


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: GUEST
Date: 10 Jul 04 - 05:22 AM

You mean to say American presidents are real? I thought they were ALL plastic toys.


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 10 Jul 04 - 10:35 AM

That's fairly close to the truth... :-)


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: Blackcatter
Date: 10 Jul 04 - 12:49 PM

CURRENT STANDINGS:

Fillmore is under 900 votes away from 4th place:
Washington is less than 100 from 1st Place. Reagan supporters mucst have gone back to bed with Bonzo.

Ronald Reagan                2965         1390         1287         5642
George Washington         1816         2066         1671         5553
William J. Clinton         3543         553         724         4820
Thomas Jefferson         710         2131         1707         4548
Millard Fillmore         2835         460         383         3678


Let's put Lincoln over Nixon for goodness sake!

Richard Nixon                1181         952         974         3107
Abraham Lincoln         601         1160         1256         3017

Ditto with Jackson/Johnson over our current pretender.

George W. Bush         255         204         199         658
Andrew Jackson         120         236         289         645
Andrew Johnson         134         309         174         617

And Hoover should be at the bottom of the list - he didn't do shit to pull us out of the Great Depression.

Herbert Hoover                88         77         118         283
James Buchanan                31         90         158         279
Benjamin Harrison         15         77         186         278


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: GUEST,Oliver Whistlemore
Date: 10 Jul 04 - 01:38 PM

When we created our patriotic website and its voting procedure we did not anticipate that this sort of fraudulent voting pattern would emerge, due to the efforts of a few idle provocateurs. Very well! We shall fight fire with fire. I am calling up every person I know and instructing them to inundate your silly forum with redundant and useless threads about things you people have no interest in whatsoever! You will shortly see threads analyzing the connection between English folk songs and escargot. You will see threads comparing Willie Nelson with Nelson Mandela's niece. You will see threads that discuss the international crisis in St Kitts & Nevis. You will see threads on how to tie a Hungarian slip knot and tune a Polish harmonium. If you can screw up Toypresidents, we can screw up Mudcat. You shall now pay the price for this unwarranted attack upon Toypresidents.

You have 24 hours to cease and desist. Then the axe will fall. Give it serious thought.


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: GUEST,IMHO
Date: 10 Jul 04 - 03:15 PM

Oliver: To put a new twist (like the pun?) on things, please allow me to remark. The common history of English folk songs and snails is very well documented in the literature. Willie Nelson and Nelson Mandela have commonalities. Simply google the names and you will see that they share many sites. As to St Kitts and Nevis, see the following.

"The islands of St Kitts and Nevis are two of the sleepiest places in the Caribbean, and one of the few countries in the region where agriculture is still a larger part of the economy than tourism. Some people find the islands' relaxed nature ideal; others get restless after a few days."

I draw your attention to the international crisis which will erupt when the sleepy people wake up and get even more restless.

As to the Hungarian slipknot and Polish harmonium player: It seems a marriage made in heaven. I don't care for polkas.

Oliver: Bring it on.


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: GUEST,IMHO
Date: 10 Jul 04 - 03:26 PM

Oh, yes, Oliver: I will draw you attention to the stats. It is my opinion that most Americans have never even heard of many Presidents.

My voting will continue to be Fillmore, Washington and Lincoln. The voting is no more fraudulent than the procedure used by your present President to gain office. We shall live brave and die bold!


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: GUEST,IMHO
Date: 10 Jul 04 - 03:26 PM

Blue thread.


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: Blackcatter
Date: 10 Jul 04 - 04:39 PM

Oliver - when, exactly, will your posts become funny?


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: YOR
Date: 10 Jul 04 - 09:03 PM

Oliver, Oliver, Oliver, If you think you are going to bother the Mudcatters, you don't know us very well.


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: GUEST
Date: 11 Jul 04 - 06:02 PM

OK, I will try to say this politely. PLEASE GET YER SHIT TOGETHER. I have voted for Fillmore, Lincoln and Washington THREE times today. NO ONE ELSE HAS. Get with the program.

Sincerest and warmest regards,

Millard for Chief Doll Committee Chair or somethin' like that.


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: GUEST
Date: 11 Jul 04 - 06:18 PM

And yet again.


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: Peace
Date: 11 Jul 04 - 06:49 PM

and again


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: Blackcatter
Date: 11 Jul 04 - 09:07 PM

You're either voting wrongly, or ya don't know how to add. Yesterday when I posted the above stats, Fillmore was at 3678. I just voted again and he's at 3704.


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: Peace
Date: 11 Jul 04 - 09:08 PM

I don't know how to add.


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: GUEST
Date: 11 Jul 04 - 09:15 PM

Encore. Fillmore, Washington and Lincoln.


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: GUEST
Date: 12 Jul 04 - 05:44 AM

Oliver, this forum is full of redundant and useless threads, so your rallying cry to plastic president enthusiasts (does that include Nancy Reagan?) to bombard this site with trivia will go unnoticed.

Also, have you thought of making plastic FBI director figures? You could start with J Edgar Hoover who would come complete with frilly underwear and gay lover. I'd buy one.

BTW, I voted for Fillmore


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: Hrothgar
Date: 12 Jul 04 - 06:11 AM

Don't forget to vote for the lovely Frances.


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: GUEST,MMario
Date: 12 Jul 04 - 08:35 AM

Hell - I think Fillmore should be a write-in candidate for President in this election 0- a dead guy can't do much worse then a lot of the live ones have.


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: Blackcatter
Date: 12 Jul 04 - 10:11 AM

Umm - ANYONE can be a write-in candidate - just not always a valid one, and since he's been dead for 1000+ years, I doubt it matters if he's "valid."

In 1994 I was working for the local supervisor of elections. My job for them immdiately after the main election was to supervise visual recounts of write-in votes, which meant that I sat in a room with 20 volunteers checking their work in tallying 2 races that had valid write-in candidates. Since my friends knew this, they decided to say "hi" by writing in my name instead of the valid candidate. I receieved 42 votes, while the actual write-in candidate received 104. But I beat Mickey Mouse who received only 30 (which is pretty poor showing in the Florida county that is the home of Disney World). I got in a bit of trouble with that, my bosses didn't believe that I hadn't orchestrated the whole thing.


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 12 Jul 04 - 12:04 PM

That is very funny, Blackcatter. I bet they had a hard time believing you didn't orchestrate it! I am also pleased that Mickey Mouse is still getting votes after all this time.


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: GUEST,Oliver Whistlemore
Date: 12 Jul 04 - 12:14 PM

Oliver, this forum is full of redundant and useless threads, so your rallying cry to plastic president enthusiasts (does that include Nancy Reagan?) to bombard this site with trivia will go unnoticed.

I'm afraid you are probably right about that, having looked over the Forum. It is mind boggling how much useless trivia goes on here already. I am reconsidering the whole idea. Yes, Nancy Reagan is a personal friend of mine, as a matter of fact, and she is very gratified that her late husband has been voted into the leading position on Toypresidents by a grateful nation.

Also, have you thought of making plastic FBI director figures? You could start with J Edgar Hoover who would come complete with frilly underwear and gay lover. I'd buy one.

You are typical of the sort of degenerate, depraved scum who come here. We would never consider making such an undignified figure at Toypresidents!

BTW, I voted for Fillmore

I thought as much. I hope you live to regret your actions. I hope that one day the evils of your life will return to haunt you, and that you will lie awake at night tortured by the memories of your misdeeds.


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: GUEST
Date: 12 Jul 04 - 01:05 PM

Hi Oliver, nice to hear from you again. You've brightened up this forum no end.

"Nancy Reagan is a personal friend of mine, as a matter of fact, and she is very gratified that her late husband has been voted into the leading position on Toypresidents by a grateful nation."

Now, why am I not surprised that Nancy is a personal friend of yours? Could she tell the difference between the plastic Ronnie and the real
one?


"You are typical of the sort of degenerate, depraved scum who come here."

Why, thank you. We pride ourselves on our degenerate and depraved ways here at Mudcat.


"I hope that one day the evils of your life will return to haunt you, and that you will lie awake at night tortured by the memories of your misdeeds."

Well Oliver, I did lie awake last night, not because I was tortured by memories of my misdeeds (we degenerate and depraved types sleep like babies, as we have no conscience), but because I was laughing so much at the thought of you going purple and risking a coronary at all this Fillmore voting.

Try being a little more depraved Ollie. It'll do you the world of good. And please think again about the Hoover figure. It would sell like silk underwear at a transvestites convention.


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: Blackcatter
Date: 12 Jul 04 - 01:44 PM

You know, a really unique doll would be to have Nancy Reagan put to sleep and taxidermied. She's the same size as the Reagan doll anyhow. and it wouldn't take much stuffing.


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: GUEST
Date: 12 Jul 04 - 01:56 PM

Nancy Reagan was put to sleep and taxidermied years ago. It's just that no one noticed.


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: GUEST,Fly in the ointment
Date: 12 Jul 04 - 03:17 PM

Don't look now, but George Washington is creeping up on Reagan again! Also, Bill Clinton has more votes for Number 1 Position than any other president! Fillmore is battling to overhaul Thomas Jefferson, but Jefferson is still holding a strong lead.

Question: Whose smile is more dazzling? Clinton's or Reagan's? Go to the toy presidents site now, look at their action figures, and decide. Then look at G W Bush. What a sourpuss! You don't smile when you're "fighting terrorism". No siree. You bear down with a flinty look and say, "We're gonna smoke 'em out!"

Will they ever make a toy president out of John Kerry? Only time will tell.


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: GUEST,Blackcatter (at woork - shhhh)
Date: 12 Jul 04 - 04:19 PM

George the First has been creeping up on reagan for a while now - a week or two after is death, the pro-Reagan voters crawled back into their caves.


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: SINSULL
Date: 12 Jul 04 - 09:44 PM

Mrs. Fillmore is in 5th place as well. Come on, guys. VOTE!


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: Blackcatter
Date: 13 Jul 04 - 12:23 AM

Ronald Reagan                2968         1393         1292         5653
George Washington         1841         2094         1698         5633
William J. Clinton         3556         554         724         4834
Thomas Jefferson         740         2145         1715         4600
Millard Fillmore         2913         474         391         3778
Richard Nixon                1183         955         979         3117
Abraham Lincoln         605         1170         1267         3042


A lot of people are voting Jefferson - see the last time I posted stats:

Ronald Reagan             2965         1390         1287         5642
George Washington         1816         2066         1671         5553
William J. Clinton         3543         553         724         4820
Thomas Jefferson         710         2131         1707         4548
Millard Fillmore         2835         460         383         3678

In the time Fillmore recieved 100 votes, Jefferson recievd 52 votes.

On the good side, Washington is 31 votes from the top.


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: SINSULL
Date: 13 Jul 04 - 07:45 PM

Only 1000 votes between Clinton and Millard. Vote now and vote often!


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: GUEST
Date: 14 Jul 04 - 08:11 AM

Washington is on top again.


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: GUEST,Blackcatter
Date: 14 Jul 04 - 04:05 PM

Yep and Fillmore is still getting closer.


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: SINSULL
Date: 14 Jul 04 - 05:43 PM

There are only 70 votes separating Mrs. Fillmore from JackieO. Come on people! If we can't get Millard in, at least lets get his wife into #1.


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: Alex.S
Date: 14 Jul 04 - 08:36 PM

From the depths of my heart, thank you Oliver! Fill the ballots, folks, fill more Fillmore!


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: Blackcatter
Date: 15 Jul 04 - 11:13 AM

Theyve changed the voting! We can no longer vote for presidents who's dolls the company already makes. They haven't changed the results to George Washington is effectively on top of Reagan forever. I wish I could have gotten Lincoln over Nixon though.

Keep voting for Fillmore though. It's just gotten a bit easier sicne Clinton, Reagan and Washington cannot be added to.


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: GUEST
Date: 15 Jul 04 - 11:23 AM

nor jefferson!


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: Blackcatter
Date: 15 Jul 04 - 11:28 AM

Yep. Al lthe following are out of the running:

Presidents currently available include: Bush, Clinton, Reagan, Kennedy, Roosevelt, and Lincoln.

Presidents currently in production include: Nixon, Jefferson and Washington.


Can you believe that people would want a Nixon doll for non-nefarious purposes?


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: GUEST,mmario
Date: 15 Jul 04 - 11:51 AM

2750 votes will put Millard 1 vote down from George. That's about right.


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: GUEST,Prudence Whistlemore
Date: 15 Jul 04 - 01:31 PM

You troublemakers ought to know that my husband Oliver has experienced a nervous collapse due to your unconscionable meddling with the Toypresidents website. He is undergoing treatment now in a nice, quiet facility where no one ever mentions the Internet. The Board of Directors of Toypresidents has met in the meantime and as you can see has taken firm action by allowing no further voting for Presidents of whom a figure has already been issued. I had pressured them on Oliver's behalf to reduce Millard Fillmore's tally of votes back to a nominal 520 votes (about where it was before this nonsense started), but they have made no decision on that as yet.

We intend to find out exactly who the ringleaders were in this phony "Vote for Millard Fillmore" campaign, and then bring them to justice.

Nancy Reagan is quite upset that the Fillmore backers and their ilk saw fit to push the votes for George Washington past Ronald Reagan in the last few days. "So soon they forget!" she said to me. I think it's a disgrace. If I had my way I would have the company tool up an action figure of this Catspaw49 individual, hanging upsidedown from a lampost like Mussolini, with a sign saying "Loser & Degenerate" stapled to his chest. We know what he looks like. We have investigated on your website. He is an ugly slob with a vague resemblance to that singer, John Denver.

Be prepared for further stern measures from the people at Toypresidents, who will not stand idly by while our sacred traditions are compromised by nitwits with too much time on their hands.

Prudence Whistlemore


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: Blackcatter
Date: 15 Jul 04 - 01:44 PM

You troublemakers ought to know that my husband Oliver has experienced a nervous collapse due to your unconscionable meddling with the Toypresidents website. He is undergoing treatment now in a nice, quiet facility where no one ever mentions the Internet. The Board of Directors of Toypresidents has met in the meantime and as you can see has taken firm action by allowing no further voting for Presidents of whom a figure has already been issued. I had pressured them on Oliver's behalf to reduce Millard Fillmore's tally of votes back to a nominal 520 votes (about where it was before this nonsense started), but they have made no decision on that as yet.

He's need treatment for years. The BOD action should have been done at the beginning. Imagine people voting in favor of you producing a toy you already produce. It's no wonder you company has filed for bankrupcy. Clearly you don't pay much attention. We started voting for Millard when he only had around 250 votes.

We intend to find out exactly who the ringleaders were in this phony "Vote for Millard Fillmore" campaign, and then bring them to justice.

Sign me up. I am Blackcatter, hear me meow!

Nancy Reagan is quite upset that the Fillmore backers and their ilk saw fit to push the votes for George Washington past Ronald Reagan in the last few days. "So soon they forget!" she said to me. I think it's a disgrace. If I had my way I would have the company tool up an action figure of this Catspaw49 individual, hanging upsidedown from a lampost like Mussolini, with a sign saying "Loser & Degenerate" stapled to his chest. We know what he looks like. We have investigated on your website. He is an ugly slob with a vague resemblance to that singer, John Denver.

Nancy's not still alive, is she? She dated Washington, I think. Talk about sour grapes. By the way, I have it on good authority that 'Spaw has been that way many of times. 'Spaw's friends consider it a mark of affection when they do that. And I know 'Spaw looks much better than Denver, and the fact that Denver's been dead for several years has only a little to do with it.

Be prepared for further stern measures from the people at Toypresidents, who will not stand idly by while our sacred traditions are compromised by nitwits with too much time on their hands.

Remind us again exactly what your stern measures have been so far?

Prudence Whistlemore

Anyone think that it is slightly erotic for a lady to be called Whistlemore?


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: SINSULL
Date: 15 Jul 04 - 03:51 PM

Mrs. Fillmore is only 36 votes behind JackieO. Lets put her over the top.


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: GUEST
Date: 16 Jul 04 - 06:30 AM

Dear Prudence,

Won't you come out to play?



"So soon they forget!"

Just like Ronnie!


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: SINSULL
Date: 16 Jul 04 - 08:29 AM

13 votes between Kennedy-Onassis and Fillmore. Come on! We can do this. Today JackieO; tomorrow Nancy R.


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: SINSULL
Date: 16 Jul 04 - 11:36 AM

WHEEEEE! Mrs. Fillmore just passed JackieO. Now - only about 600 votes needed to dump Reagan. If each of us votes 6xs a day we can get this done by Sunday.


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: GUEST
Date: 16 Jul 04 - 11:38 AM

and don't neglect poor FRANCES!


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From: GUEST,MMario
Date: 16 Jul 04 - 11:41 AM

656 votes for Mrs. F to pass Nancy


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: YOR
Date: 16 Jul 04 - 10:38 PM

Fillmore, Will be #1


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From: SINSULL
Date: 17 Jul 04 - 10:24 AM

refresh for our friends across the Pond.


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From: Alex.S
Date: 18 Jul 04 - 01:24 AM

I think this thread deserves another refresh.


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From: George Papavgeris
Date: 18 Jul 04 - 05:03 AM

Doing what I can...


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: Blackcatter
Date: 18 Jul 04 - 10:20 AM

I've voted 10-12 times so foar this weekend. Off to church (a Unitarian Church, just like dear old Fillmore).


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: SINSULL
Date: 18 Jul 04 - 12:11 PM

Progress is being made. Abigail is closing in on Nancy and Jefferson is losing ground. Keep it up, guys.


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: SINSULL
Date: 18 Jul 04 - 03:01 PM

500 votes for first place and Millard will pass Jefferson AND have more first place votes than Clinton. We can do this! AND 600 votes to pass Nancy Reagan.


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: Peace
Date: 18 Jul 04 - 03:28 PM

Where are Washington and Lincoln? I can't find their names. PS Just voted for Willard and Abigail. Again.


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: Peace
Date: 18 Jul 04 - 05:22 PM

Voted 4 times today.


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: Peace
Date: 18 Jul 04 - 05:58 PM

5


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From: Peace
Date: 18 Jul 04 - 06:33 PM

6


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From: Little Hawk
Date: 18 Jul 04 - 07:51 PM

Aha! The 100th post...er...

Aw, darn! Brucie nabbed it.

Well, off to vote for Fillmore again. I'm afraid there's no stopping the man now. He's like an incurable disease.


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: Blackcatter
Date: 18 Jul 04 - 09:28 PM

Brucie,

You really should try to read previous posts. A few days ago Toypresidents eliminated all presidents which have dolls currently in production or will soon. That includes all the most recent except the first Bush, and Washington and Lincoln.

Since you can't vote for them, their current levels are effectively frozen (luckily we put Washington back on top over Reagan a few days prior to that). So now all there is to do is the see how long it will take to push Fillmore up the list.

I'm also trying to push Carter over Nixon. any person who had to leave the presidency in humiliation shouldn't be that high.


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: Joe Richman
Date: 18 Jul 04 - 10:41 PM

Is Phil Hendry behind this thread?


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: Blackcatter
Date: 18 Jul 04 - 10:47 PM

Who?


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: Peace
Date: 18 Jul 04 - 10:47 PM

Joe,

I looked. No, he isn't.

Blackcatter,

You're correct of course. However, I was so excited to vote that I forgot. I did see it later and I felt so shamed. Please don't tell anyone. That thing with the sheep--hell, anybody can make THAT mistake, but not not reading previous posts, especially when so much is at stake.

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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: GUEST
Date: 19 Jul 04 - 08:33 AM

I don't think we should bump millard past George Washington though....


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: SINSULL
Date: 19 Jul 04 - 10:26 AM

Do I hear rumblings of mutiny? The plan is to put Millard on top. Now go back and change your votes.


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: GUEST
Date: 19 Jul 04 - 10:34 AM

BENJERMIN HARRISON FOR #2!

only 5418 votes needed!


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: Blackcatter
Date: 19 Jul 04 - 11:36 AM

I personally (and note, I'm saying this under my name) will stop voting for Fillmore once he passes Reagan. I don't really care if he passes Washington, but I won't contribute to it. I'll begin to vote for others, probably. I've gotten a bit addicted to the process.

Current standings:

Name                  First    Second      Third      Total
George Washington    1872      2117       1725       5714
Ronald Reagan         2974      1394       1295       5663
William J. Clinton    3567       555         724       4846
Thomas Jefferson       760      2169       1720       4649
Millard Fillmore      3246       530         437       4213


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From: Little Hawk
Date: 19 Jul 04 - 11:51 AM

I know how you feel Blackcatter. The flesh starts to crawl at a certain point, as one watches Fillmore leaving historically significant figures in the dust... :-)


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: GUEST
Date: 19 Jul 04 - 11:58 AM

hey hawk! Fillmore is also historically significant. read a bit about him.


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: SINSULL
Date: 19 Jul 04 - 03:56 PM

You do know that Washington lied about the cherry tree, right? Vote Fillmore.


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: Peace
Date: 19 Jul 04 - 04:19 PM

I vote for him 'cause I wanna see what he looks like.


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: GUEST
Date: 19 Jul 04 - 04:22 PM

and because he installed the first bathtub in the White House.


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: Peace
Date: 19 Jul 04 - 04:27 PM

The place could use a good cleaning. IMO.


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: Blackcatter
Date: 19 Jul 04 - 06:14 PM

Sinsull - you know that someone else lied about that whole tree, right? Some bad historian or something.


If Fillmore goes past Washington, so be it, I just won't help at that point.

For a while I was trying to keep Hoover on the bottom, since he was possibly the worst president down on the bottom area. My father lived through the Great Depression, That SOB (Hoover, not my father) did nothing to help starving, helpless Americans. Unfortunately, someone(s) keep voting for him and keep sending up a little bit.


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: Peace
Date: 19 Jul 04 - 06:32 PM

People think he invented the vacuum cleaner.


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: Irish sergeant
Date: 19 Jul 04 - 09:14 PM

PArson Weems lied about the cheery tree. Prudence, if that is your real name, you may add me to the list of people who support the Millard Fillmore revolution against narrow-minded people who sorely need a life. Vote the reganistas down in the toy company and again in November when it comes time to choose a new president. I seriously doubt Nancy Reagan even knows your bloody toy comapny exists and if she does, she has rather more pressing concerns.
Stern measures? Damn now you have me shaking! how will I ever deal with it? Like this I choose to ignore you and your narrow minded ilk, Prudence. Thou art dead to me. Bye- bye. Irish Sergeant


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: Peace
Date: 20 Jul 04 - 12:40 AM

Holy shit, I love this thread. I didn't know people spoke like that anymore. GO FILLMORE! GO IRISH SERGEANT! GO VOTE!


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: Irish sergeant
Date: 20 Jul 04 - 03:21 PM

AND yet another vote for Millard Fillmore! Up the revolution! Irish Sergeant


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: Alex.S
Date: 20 Jul 04 - 05:57 PM

Yes sir, Sergeant, sir!


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: Blackcatter
Date: 20 Jul 04 - 07:55 PM

Since when do you say "sir" to a Sergeant. Hell, they work for a living.


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: GUEST
Date: 21 Jul 04 - 08:30 AM


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From: Peace
Date: 21 Jul 04 - 11:48 AM

Did it again.


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From: GUEST,Guest
Date: 21 Jul 04 - 03:20 PM


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: SINSULL
Date: 21 Jul 04 - 08:48 PM

200 to unseat Jefferson and 400 to knock out Nancy R. By the way, where is Spaw? This was his idea to begin with.


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: SINSULL
Date: 22 Jul 04 - 09:01 AM

Am I alone in this? Vote! 200 to pass Jefferson. 400 to pass that Reagan woman. Come on!


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: GUEST,MMario
Date: 22 Jul 04 - 09:17 AM

'spaw is still trying to seperate the muddy formerly whites from the muddy formerly dark after his soggy camping trip.

Abby is getting six or seven votes a day from me - the rest go to darlin' Frances.

deal.


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: Blackcatter
Date: 22 Jul 04 - 07:16 PM

Update.

Less than 150.

George Washington         1872         2117         1726         5715
Ronald Reagan                2974         1394         1295         5663
William J. Clinton         3567         555         724         4846
Thomas Jefferson         760         2170         1720         4650
Millard Fillmore         3460         578         465         4503


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: catspaw49
Date: 22 Jul 04 - 08:27 PM

ONLY 147 and we can overtake TJ!!!!

We be stylin' and profilin' at the top very soon!!!!

Spaw, Doctor of Muck and Mud


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: Peace
Date: 22 Jul 04 - 11:13 PM

i41 to go.


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From: Blackcatter
Date: 22 Jul 04 - 11:51 PM

What the hell Brucie?


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: Peace
Date: 23 Jul 04 - 01:07 AM

meant 141 to go.


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From: JennyO
Date: 23 Jul 04 - 05:28 AM

128 to go now


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: George Papavgeris
Date: 23 Jul 04 - 05:54 AM

127...


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: DMcG
Date: 23 Jul 04 - 08:33 AM

Voted again .. By the way, as these are talking toys, does anyone have the faintest idea what Our Millard sounded like?


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: Blackcatter
Date: 23 Jul 04 - 11:43 AM

He sounded a lot like me. I've already applied to be the voice of Millard. Haven't heard back yet.

It'd be neat to think that my only professional acting performance was as a president.


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From: GUEST
Date: 23 Jul 04 - 12:36 PM

96


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From: JennyO
Date: 23 Jul 04 - 12:43 PM

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From: George Papavgeris
Date: 23 Jul 04 - 02:48 PM

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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: Marion
Date: 23 Jul 04 - 03:59 PM

You know, I usually steer clear of nonsense threads, but this Fillmore business is strangely compelling, and I've voted a couple dozen times - will do so more God willing.

A couple of thoughts:

1. SINSULL said somewhere that this was a chance for us non-Americans to have a vote in the American presidency. Well, the American president I really wish I could vote for isn't on the list: John Kerry. Maybe we could do a write-in campaign for him?

2. I have my suspicions that Oliver Whistlemore doesn't really work for the toy company. But... surely the real people are wondering what's going on. What if we informed this about this campaign, gave them links to the related threads, and invited comments? They might just have a sense of humour...

Marion


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: GUEST
Date: 23 Jul 04 - 04:31 PM

seventy


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: Blackcatter
Date: 23 Jul 04 - 04:46 PM

Marion,

As one who has been voting for Fillmore since he had less than 350 votes, welcome to the Mudcat Fillmore Booster Club.

Yes, I think most of us believe that Whistlemore isn't connected with ToyPresidents. It seems likely one of two things are happening at ToyPresidents regarding the voting:

1) They haven't looked and so haven't noticed.

2) They have noticed and either think it's funny or don't care.

I suppose someone could let them know, but what if they reset everything? Then our fun has ended. I have contacted them to be the voice (not just of Fillmore), but made no reference to the voting on Mudcat.


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: Irish sergeant
Date: 23 Jul 04 - 04:59 PM

I'll have to go back and vote again and yet again just because I gotta be me. Irish Sergeant.:~)


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: George Papavgeris
Date: 23 Jul 04 - 05:16 PM

This is compulsive... 66


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: GUEST,Prudence Whistlemore
Date: 23 Jul 04 - 06:32 PM

You seditious, unpatriotic degenerates are going to be sorry about this, mark my words! The Patriot Act was designed specifically to deal with subversives like you. You are engaging in a subtle form of domestic terrorism by interfering with the natural process of allowing a loyal American public to choose their most favorite Presidents so that they can have a talking, gesturing figure of their favorite President to put in a place of honor in the home.

I had not realized that there were people of such a low nature in our great country that they would stoop to this sort of gerrymandering of a toy company's polling site. I consider you to be the lowest of the low.

You are beneath contempt. I refuse to speak to you any longer, and I shall not post on this thread or any other Mudcat Cafe thread ever again! It is because of you that my beloved husband, Oliver, has had to get expensive therapy, and now has spells where he imagines he is Teddy Roosevelt storming San Juan Hill.

That's it. I'm through with you. Rot here in your self-created cyber-ghetto! Toypresidents will have the last word on this matter, I can assure you!


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: GUEST,Oliver Whistlemore
Date: 23 Jul 04 - 09:02 PM

Pru,

Now, now. You know you shouldn't go on-line without taking your medication. These kind people don't need to hear that kind of invective.

Now first of all, Pru, my imagination is healthy. Dr. Wetzel says so. I know enough to separate imagination fro reality.

Secondly, through the past few weeks of therapy, I've come to realize that this voting by Mudcatters is connected with the best in American (and World) democratic principles.

And I promise that we will put Fillmore in the production line soon.

Thank you.


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: Alex.S
Date: 23 Jul 04 - 09:53 PM

God bless America!


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From: JennyO
Date: 23 Jul 04 - 11:13 PM

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From: Blackcatter
Date: 24 Jul 04 - 11:56 AM

Less than 50 to go!


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: GUEST,Dixon Vespra
Date: 24 Jul 04 - 12:36 PM

I am a member of the board of directors of Toypresidents. That last message purporting to come from Oliver Whistlemore was in fact written by some imposter in order to embarrass the Whistlemores. The assertions it makes about Oliver Whistlemore and Prudence Whistlemore are entirely untrue and constitute slander. We at Toypresidents are well aware that something unusual is occurring in the voting routine on our website. This will in no way influence our decision on when to release an action figure of Millard Fillmore. We have a number of factors to consider regarding which Presidents to release at what time and in what order, and we shall provide news releases from time to time in that regard. Eventually we do intend to produce a figure of every President of the United States of America, but we cannot guarantee in which particular order those figures shall appear.

We did receive Blackcatter's request to be hired to do the voice of Millard Fillmore. If I may quote the chairman of the board's response, Blackcatter...

"Don't hold your breath waiting."

Dixon Vespra


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: Peace
Date: 24 Jul 04 - 06:39 PM

35 to go.


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: YOR
Date: 24 Jul 04 - 11:23 PM

I'll go revote in a minute, but, Dixon, this should really prove our passion for Millard.


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: JennyO
Date: 24 Jul 04 - 11:54 PM

24!


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: Blackcatter
Date: 25 Jul 04 - 01:43 AM

Caught you! You're a fraud, I never actually sent that message to be the voice of Fillmore! HA!

Gotta go vote . . .


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: JennyO
Date: 25 Jul 04 - 09:05 AM

Only 10 to go....


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: Blackcatter
Date: 25 Jul 04 - 03:07 PM

Been there, Posted the tying vote!

                 

George Washington         1872         2117         1726         5715
Ronald Reagan                2974         1394         1295         5663
William J. Clinton         3567         555         724         4846
Millard Fillmore         3555         592         503         4650
Thomas Jefferson         760         2170         1720         4650


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: Ron Davies
Date: 25 Jul 04 - 03:16 PM

Hey, this is great!
"Rot here in your self-created cyber-ghetto"---Prudence, I love your colorful language--keep it coming.


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: Blackcatter
Date: 25 Jul 04 - 03:29 PM

And I just put him in fourth.    Less than 200 to go to pass Clinton.

William J. Clinton         3567         555         724         4846
Millard Fillmore         3555         593         503         4651
Thomas Jefferson         760         2170         1720         4650


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: Blackcatter
Date: 25 Jul 04 - 03:54 PM

4652


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: Irish sergeant
Date: 26 Jul 04 - 09:04 AM

Pru: Send them to me first I have issues with thge Patriot act as well as degenerate right wing fascists claiming to speak in the name of liberty. Irish Sergeant and Gulf war veteran.


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: GUEST,Ed Grant
Date: 26 Jul 04 - 12:37 PM

Well, I finally had to stop in here and see what the hell is going on. This is bizarre. I had no idea people would bother to do something like this on our website. I guess there are some pretty idle minds out there. You people, whoever the hell you are, have managed to get Millard Fillmore in 4rth position. I wonder if that will be enough to satisfy your peculiar appetite for oddball humor? My guess is it won't. I have a feeling you might just keep voting for him until he is number 1 or until we change the voting procedure. As I said, bizarre.

I'm sitting here scratching my head and wondering how I should respond to this. Should I get angry? Should I laugh? Should I threaten legal action? I think not. It would be more expedient to just shrug and go have a beer.

I've just looked into the records on Millard Fillmore. Hoo boy, pretty exciting stuff! Now I'm pondering what we might have his action figure say when and if we get around to producing it.

Maybe...

"I'll drink to that...(hic!)"

"Pass the gravy, Abigail...(burp!)"

"I have just delayed the Civil War for 10 years by passing a brilliant piece of legislation. I should get a (hic!) medal for that don't you think? Abigail....? ABIGAIL!!!"

"I am proud to run for the Know Nothing Party in '56. It is a party with a policy that I understand perfectly...(hic!)"

"I want to thank the people of the United States of America for electing me...but more than that I want to thank the good people of Mudcat Cafe for making me the most popular President in the history of our great country. God Bless (hic!) America!"

What a guy. I think the figure will be our best seller ever. That's my prediction. I guess I should thank you people.

Ed Grant, Toypresidents


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: SINSULL
Date: 26 Jul 04 - 01:27 PM

139 votes to unseat Clinton. That's fewer than it took little bush to steal the election from Gore. And 300 will move Nancy R down below Mrs. Fillmore.


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: Blackcatter
Date: 26 Jul 04 - 10:16 PM

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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: Peace
Date: 27 Jul 04 - 07:07 PM

kkkkhasob,hfofv7aow, but don't tell anyone the code.


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: GUEST
Date: 28 Jul 04 - 02:54 PM

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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: GUEST,Blackcatter
Date: 28 Jul 04 - 03:36 PM

4 to go!

Am I going to be the one to put him over like I did for the last hurdle? Last time, I voted 9 of the last 10 times for him. I've done 4 today already.


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: SINSULL
Date: 28 Jul 04 - 03:52 PM

Over the top! Now on to Ronnie Reagan.


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: GUEST,Blackcatter
Date: 28 Jul 04 - 03:54 PM

Just made the passing vote.

Less than 900 to go.

George Washington 1872 2117 1726 5715
Ronald Reagan 2974 1394 1295 5663
Millard Fillmore 3693 614 540 4847
William J. Clinton 3567 555 724 4846


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: Peace
Date: 28 Jul 04 - 04:44 PM

805 to go.


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: Blackcatter
Date: 28 Jul 04 - 05:31 PM

Thanks for the math Brucie, that's not my strength.

I do know how to add to a total, however.


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: Peace
Date: 28 Jul 04 - 06:30 PM

800 to tie.
801 to get that name under 'da man'.


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: Peace
Date: 28 Jul 04 - 06:31 PM

Hey, Blackcatter, how the heck are ya?

Little secret here: I have a calculator on the computer.

Keep well, buddy.

BM


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: Marion
Date: 29 Jul 04 - 01:57 AM

Ed Grant said: I'm sitting here scratching my head and wondering how I should respond to this. Should I get angry? Should I laugh? Should I threaten legal action? I think not. It would be more expedient to just shrug and go have a beer.

You should laugh, then shrug and have a beer, and then you should come on over to the dark side! As a company insider there's a great deal that you could do for the cause. Stress to the other members of the board that if they don't manufacture dolls according to the poll results, the polling process will have been wasted and this will make them look inefficient and market-nonresponsive to the shareholders.

And as for what the Fillmore doll could say: well, considering that it's common knowledge that Fillmore was the sexiest president ever, and that he had the first bathtub installed in the White House, what if he said something like "There's room enough for two in (hic!) here, Abigail."

Marion


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: Blackcatter
Date: 29 Jul 04 - 12:48 PM

I've shared a tub with an Abigail a couple of times. Millard sure would have missed something if he didn't.


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: GUEST,Ed Grant
Date: 29 Jul 04 - 12:57 PM

Ha! I like it, Marion. I'm not sure if I could persuade the rest of the board, but we'll see. Remember, there is no guarantee how soon a Fillmore action figure will be issued, but hang on to your hopes. If you crazy people succeed in making him number one, I imagine it may at least improve the odds on it happening fairly soon.

I never dreamed this job would actually lead to a few good belly laughs. Well, not over Millard Fillmore anyway. The Republicans on staff here are quite perturbed about George W. Bush's very low standing in the polls, by the way.


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: GUEST
Date: 29 Jul 04 - 01:09 PM

Should I threaten legal action?


Nowhere does it say a person may vote only once. the site allows one to vote every 10 minutes. How could you possibly take legal action?


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: Irish sergeant
Date: 29 Jul 04 - 04:22 PM

Ed:
Come on! Join the Millard Fillmore revolution against tght asses with no sense of humor! You know you want to! :~) Irish sergeant


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: Peace
Date: 29 Jul 04 - 06:14 PM

Just voted.

634 to get rid of Reagan.

BUT, I think Washington SHOULD remain at the top. He threw a dollar across the Potomac. Of course, a dollar went further in those days.


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: Peace
Date: 30 Jul 04 - 03:47 AM

712 to topple RR.


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 30 Jul 04 - 05:04 PM

When Reagan is toppled it will make a sound just like when Saddam's statue fell. :-)


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: Peace
Date: 30 Jul 04 - 05:06 PM

690.


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: Blackcatter
Date: 30 Jul 04 - 06:37 PM

Brucie,

Do you realize that in the space of less than 24 hours you listed first 634 then 712 and then 690 to go?

Better check on that calculator.


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: Blackcatter
Date: 30 Jul 04 - 06:40 PM

George Washington         1872         2117         1726         5715
Ronald Reagan                2974         1394         1295         5663
Millard Fillmore         3782         625         573         4980


George H.W. Bush         413         601         529         1543
John Adams                510         539         469         1518


I've voting for Adams to pass the first idiot Bush


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: Marion
Date: 30 Jul 04 - 11:16 PM

Hi Ed. You said, The Republicans on staff here are quite perturbed about George W. Bush's very low standing in the polls

If I weren't such a nice person, I'd suggest that Bush consider Reagan's example of how to boost ratings quickly...

Riffing on Blackcatter's post above... here's another thing we could work on simultaneously with voting for Fillmore. Let's make George W. Bush come in last! Every time you vote, one vote goes to Fillmore and the other two go to the two presidents who are directly below him (right now, James Munroe and Lyndon Johnson). The numbers are pretty close together in the south end of the list, so he would descend quickly (and you'd have to keep checking to see which two were on the list to pass him next).

Sounds like a noble cause, eh?

The other thing I was thinking: I liked Blackcatter's story in another thread of how he was working in an election office and his friends conspired to embarrass him by writing his name in. How about a write-in campaign for Ed Grant?

Marion


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: Peace
Date: 30 Jul 04 - 11:32 PM

I am floating in space, and mere numbers mean little to me. Paltry elections (or poltry elections) that may determine the fate of Millard Fillmore are but momentary passings of 'key it in and send it off' into the ether--of which I've had none lately; mere real elections more of the same. See, I can't write anything sensible either. The joys of just thinking the whole damned world is a beautiful place are so whatever the word, phrase or clause is that I don't know whether to shit, wind my watch or steal third. Excelsior. Even the fact that I used the word shit doesn't phase me. I don't know what's happening to me, but whatever it is, it be cool, bro, evry, very cool. And I am going to leave the typo so that anyone having a bad day will find something to complain about. Because I want the whole planet Earth to smile. And who--in the grand scheme of things--will notice that if one changes the 'l' to an 'n', paltry becomes pantry? Is Elvis alive? If he feels like this, you bet. Does Willard Fillmore deserve to become Toy President's second choice just under George Washington? Why not? So, there you have it folks. Seventh inning stretch. Go, Blue Jays.


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: Blackcatter
Date: 31 Jul 04 - 01:17 AM

Wow - a riff of stream of consciousness. Way cool daddy-o.


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 31 Jul 04 - 11:13 AM

That was a very cool post, brucie. You must be approaching samahdi.


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: Marion
Date: 31 Jul 04 - 12:17 PM

Focus, gentlemen! James Monroe has just passed Dubya. There's fifteen more to get by him. Next on the list: Lyndon Johnson and James Madison.

Seriously... getting Bush to the bottom of the list is doable (Bush's count can't go up, and nobody's that far behind him), doesn't waste any more time than we're wasting anyway, and has the potential to get more people back on board with this project. Let's face it, there are more Bush-haters than Fillmore-kissers around here.

Don't throw away your non-Fillmore votes! Let's get Johnson and Madison past Bush!

Sincerely, Marion


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: Blackcatter
Date: 31 Jul 04 - 12:20 PM

I'm working on hat though I'm still voting for Adams over Bush I. But that's only a little more than 20 votes.

By the way, I'd keep Hoover pretty low too since he did nothing to help the poor during the Depression and my grandfather was beaten up in "Hooverville" on the Mall when they sent the goons in to destroy the protest.


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: Marion
Date: 01 Aug 04 - 01:26 AM

Thanks Blackcatter. I tossed Adams a handful of votes today as well (though I must admit that the first time I voted for John Quincy Adams by mistake). Certainly we can skip the elevation of Hoover when his name comes up.

So I got out the calculator to do a little figuring myself: how many votes would it take to get Bush into the bottom ten? Well, to get the six candidates below him up to 700 points each would take a total of 1291 votes - but only 646 trips to the ballot box, if you give both 2nd and 3rd votes to members of that group. That's very close to how many votes we need to get Fillmore above Reagan. Clearly, this is an idea whose time has come.

I notice we've got Nancy Reagan on the run as well now...

Fillmore, Mrs. Fillmore, Madison, and Johnson, that's the winning ticket.

Marion


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: Peace
Date: 01 Aug 04 - 02:49 AM

634 to go.


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: JennyO
Date: 01 Aug 04 - 02:55 AM

628 for Millard Fillmore to get past Ronnie Reagan, and only 88 for Abigail to get past Nancy Reagan.

Vote often!


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: Hrothgar
Date: 01 Aug 04 - 06:04 AM

I've been voting for Adams all along. My original set was Lincoln, Adams, and Fillmore. When they changed the rules I switched FDR for Lincoln. I might now make another change to shaft Bush.

But I'm still voting for dear, sweet Frances!


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: SINSULL
Date: 01 Aug 04 - 10:17 AM

I'm confused. Which Adams and which Johnson? Surely not LBJ? Any of you seen MacBird?


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: Peace
Date: 01 Aug 04 - 09:06 PM

601 to go.


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: GUEST,Ed Grant
Date: 01 Aug 04 - 09:38 PM

This is amazing. I've got a betting pool going now at the office as to when you people are going to put Fillmore past Reagan. Don't disappoint me! The Republicans on staff will tear their hair out when it happens. I can guaran-dam-tee it. (Anyone seen "Raising Arizona"?) I'd better say no more...wouldn't want to appear partisan! After all, we are a company that honors ALL past Presidents regardless of their party or their personal foibles. I call that unconditional love, folks.

By the way, employees of Toypresidents are absolutely forbidden to vote on the site. Nevertheless, I suspect that some of them have cheated from time to time. It's shameful. I would never stoop to such subterfuge.


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: Blackcatter
Date: 01 Aug 04 - 11:20 PM

Here's the parts of the list that we're basically working on:

The Fillmore race

George Washington         1872         2117         1726         5715
Ronald Reagan                2974         1394         1295         5663
Millard Fillmore         3843         644         584         5071

Pushing Adams past Bush

George H.W. Bush         418         602         531         1551
John Adams                524         549         474         1547

Pushing Bush Junior down by voting the others up

George W. Bush         256         218         225         699
Lyndon Johnson         156         156         306         618
James Madison         78         199         222         499
Chester Arthur         78         171         229         478
Woodrow Wilson         65         212         187         464
Gerald Ford         49         165         233         447
Franklin Pierce 25         203         207         435
Zachary Taylor         63         164         197         424
Grover Cleveland 28         208         164         400
Rutherford B. Hayes 35         171         186         392
Herbert Hoover         92         92         191         375
Warren Harding         38         98         222         358
James Garfield         31         104         198         333
William McKinley 24         127         178         329
James Buchanan         33         105         179         317
Benjamin Harrison 16         92         205         313

Hope that's clear to most.


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: Marion
Date: 02 Aug 04 - 12:44 AM

Hey Ed, we Fillmore-boosters are a nonpartisan group too. I'm not sure if you realize that it isn't just Mudcatters who are in on this: the campaign was actually started at a forum for race car fans, then introduced here by one somewhat schizoid individual who belongs to both forums. Considering that all race car fans are raving right wing nuts, and that all folk musicians are raving left wing nuts (the guy in both groups is a generalized raving nut), it's remarkable that we've joined forces like this and I think Toypresidents should take pride in having created the impetus for this cooperation.

SINSULL said: Surely not LBJ?

Yeah... I realize that LBJ is no Millard Fillmore. I'm voting for him anyway, not for the sake of promoting him but just for the sake of demoting Bush. Heck, I'm even voting for James Madison, who presided over the only time the Americans attacked my homeland (to date).   My theory is that once we get LBJ on top of Bush, the rest will start rolling forward like dominoes...

But if you don't want to vote for LBJ, no need to. It is just as productive to vote for others down the list; just maybe not as satisfying, since it'll take longer to see results and you won't see other people's votes being added to yours. If you decide to go that way, I'd suggest voting for two of this group, because they're the ones that have to be promoted to get Bush into the bottom ten:

James Madison         78         199         222         499
Chester Arthur         78         171         229         478
Woodrow Wilson         65         212         187         464
Gerald Ford         49         165         233         447
Franklin Pierce 25         203         207         435

Long live the cause, Marion


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: Peace
Date: 02 Aug 04 - 03:09 AM

Spoken like a trooper.


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: JennyO
Date: 02 Aug 04 - 09:36 AM

I just noticed that my vote for Adams has put him in a tie with Bush.


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: Blackcatter
Date: 02 Aug 04 - 11:09 AM

Great going,

I headed to Bed at 2:30 AM and Adams was still a few votes under and this morning he's over Bush! Coll. I can start voting for two under the other Bush.

By the way, LBJ was not the perfect president, but as a Texan it was remarkable he kept the Federal involvement in the Civil Rights movement going forward.


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: Peace
Date: 02 Aug 04 - 03:43 PM

544 to go.


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: Peace
Date: 02 Aug 04 - 11:10 PM

527


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: JennyO
Date: 02 Aug 04 - 11:45 PM

525 for Millard Fillmore to catch Ronnie Reagan

50 for Lyndon Johnson to catch George W

Only 20 for Abigail to catch Nancy Reagan.


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: Alex.S
Date: 03 Aug 04 - 08:44 PM

Johnson always gets a bad rap -- sure, Vietnam was a mistake, but he must be one of our more progressive presidents.


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: Blackcatter
Date: 03 Aug 04 - 09:24 PM

He also knew when to quit. Gotta give him that too.


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: Peace
Date: 03 Aug 04 - 10:10 PM

489 to go.


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: GUEST,Toypresidents founder & president Jesse Comb
Date: 04 Aug 04 - 01:17 AM

Greetings everyone. I am Jesse Combs, and I founded Toypresidents along with my long-time friend Dwayne Crosby, who is also VP for sales and marketing.

I'm not sure quite what to say about all this interest in our simple poll. None of us at Toypresidents could have forseen this scenario. We are proud of our collectible figures and are in the process of producing more. We do not currently have plans to create a Millard Fillmore issue, but we do hope to have all 43 presidents in production by the end of 2005. We also plan to include at least 10 of the first ladies by that time.

We also plan to keep the poll going, just to see what happens. We did recently change it so that visitors cannot continue to vote for presidents currently in production as well as those that are slated for release in the near future.

So, on behalf of all of us at Toypresidents, keep voting and make sure to vote in the real election in November!

Jesse Combs
President, Toypresidents


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: GUEST
Date: 04 Aug 04 - 08:21 AM

Well sir - there is obviously a grass roots campaign for Millard Fillmore.


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: DMcG
Date: 04 Aug 04 - 08:41 AM

Abigail has passed Nancy!


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: Blackcatter
Date: 04 Aug 04 - 01:17 PM

Jesse Comb

Welcome to the Mudcat. As you've probably figured out, where having fun, hopefully not at your expense. Feel free to ask us questions.

Also, I don't know if we can persuade you, or not, but I'll bet there's a few of us involved with the voting that would actually buy a Fillmore if you produced one.

Thanks for visiting!


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: GUEST,MMario
Date: 04 Aug 04 - 01:26 PM

if for no other reason then to remember this crazy thread!


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: DMcG
Date: 04 Aug 04 - 01:47 PM

To: Jesse Combs

Dear Sir,
Please consider Blackcatter's application to be the Voice of Millard. I am assured by reliable sources (i.e. Blackcatter) that he is virtually indistinguishable from Millard Filmore. It is false modesty on his part to attempt to withdraw the offer so clearly made above.

I look forward to hearing from you. And indeed him. And it.


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: SINSULL
Date: 04 Aug 04 - 01:56 PM

I can see the astonishment in their little eyes as my grand nieces and nephews, nevermind my brothers, sisters-in-law, and father, open their Christmas presents - a Millard Fillmore doll that talks! Spaw you have a lot to answer for. Wonder if I can get one that sings "Turkey In The Straw" for Spaw's boys?

Today Hillary Clinton, tomorrow that Bush woman!


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: Blackcatter
Date: 04 Aug 04 - 02:42 PM

Hello all,

I did a quick check and it is true that Jesse Combs is the president of Toypresidents. That's not to say that the guest above was really him, but hey, it's not Ed, Pru or the other guy (Oliver?).


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: Peace
Date: 05 Aug 04 - 12:33 AM

425 to go. Post more for Fillmore.


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: Marion
Date: 05 Aug 04 - 03:48 AM

LBJ has just overtaken Bush. Next in line are James Madison and Chester Arthur.

(Never heard of Chester Arthur myself... what's he famous for?)


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: SINSULL
Date: 05 Aug 04 - 10:52 AM

He was assassinated, I think.


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: SINSULL
Date: 05 Aug 04 - 10:57 AM

No. Died of kidney disease. Garfield was assassinated and Chester Arthur as VP took over.


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: Blackcatter
Date: 05 Aug 04 - 11:16 AM

From the White House web site:

Chester A. Arthur

Dignified, tall, and handsome, with clean-shaven chin and side-whiskers, Chester A. Arthur "looked like a President."

The son of a Baptist preacher who had emigrated from northern Ireland, Arthur was born in Fairfield, Vermont, in 1829. He was graduated from Union College in 1848, taught school, was admitted to the bar, and practiced law in New York City. Early in the Civil War he served as Quartermaster General of the State of New York.

President Grant in 1871 appointed him Collector of the Port of New York. Arthur effectively marshalled the thousand Customs House employees under his supervision on behalf of Roscoe Conkling's Stalwart Republican machine.

Honorable in his personal life and his public career, Arthur nevertheless was a firm believer in the spoils system when it was coming under vehement attack from reformers. He insisted upon honest administration of the Customs House, but staffed it with more employees than it needed, retaining them for their merit as party workers rather than as Government officials.

In 1878 President Hayes, attempting to reform the Customs House, ousted Arthur. Conkling and his followers tried to win redress by fighting for the renomination of Grant at the 1880 Republican Convention. Failing, they reluctantly accepted the nomination of Arthur for the Vice Presidency.

During his brief tenure as Vice President, Arthur stood firmly beside Conkling in his patronage struggle against President Garfield. But when Arthur succeeded to the Presidency, he was eager to prove himself above machine politics.

Avoiding old political friends, he became a man of fashion in his garb and associates, and often was seen with the elite of Washington, New York, and Newport. To the indignation of the Stalwart Republicans, the onetime Collector of the Port of New York became, as President, a champion of civil service reform. Public pressure, heightened by the assassination of Garfield, forced an unwieldy Congress to heed the President.

In 1883 Congress passed the Pendleton Act, which established a bipartisan Civil Service Commission, forbade levying political assessments against officeholders, and provided for a "classified system" that made certain Government positions obtainable only through competitive written examinations. The system protected employees against removal for political reasons.

Acting independently of party dogma, Arthur also tried to lower tariff rates so the Government would not be embarrassed by annual surpluses of revenue. Congress raised about as many rates as it trimmed, but Arthur signed the Tariff Act of 1883. Aggrieved Westerners and Southerners looked to the Democratic Party for redress, and the tariff began to emerge as a major political issue between the two parties.

The Arthur Administration enacted the first general Federal immigration law. Arthur approved a measure in 1882 excluding paupers, criminals, and lunatics. Congress suspended Chinese immigration for ten years, later making the restriction permanent.

Arthur demonstrated as President that he was above factions within the Republican Party, if indeed not above the party itself. Perhaps in part his reason was the well-kept secret he had known since a year after he succeeded to the Presidency, that he was suffering from a fatal kidney disease. He kept himself in the running for the Presidential nomination in 1884 in order not to appear that he feared defeat, but was not renominated, and died in 1886. Publisher Alexander K. McClure recalled, "No man ever entered the Presidency so profoundly and widely distrusted, and no one ever retired ... more generally respected."


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: Jeri
Date: 05 Aug 04 - 01:23 PM

I wonder if they'll allow write in votes for Martin Sheen?


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: GUEST,MMario
Date: 05 Aug 04 - 01:54 PM

probably not - but I would think Bartlett would be allowed -


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: Peace
Date: 05 Aug 04 - 10:06 PM

364 to go.


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 05 Aug 04 - 10:23 PM

Jesse Combs, I am assuming you are the real McCoy. If so, it's good to hear from you, and I'm glad you're being a good sport about all this. Are you really serious about producing figures of all of the Presidents by the end of 2005? That's a lot of product to tool. If so, you are being quite ambitious. I'm glad to hear that you're going to do some of the First Ladies as well, and I assume that Hillary Clinton will be one of them...as well as Jacquie Kennedy, for sure. Sounds good.

Maybe you could later do a famous folk musicians series too, and tool up figures of our most favourite folksingers. I have seen action figures of some of the heavy metal rockers, of Cheech and Chong, and of Jerry Garcia (very neat!), but never of a folksinger. Now in Bob Dylan's case there are at least 6 distinct Bobs you could do:

1. early Bob in the Huck Finn cap and work clothes (1961-64)

2. electric Bob with the glorious hair and the lean, intense look (65-66)

3. Nashville Bob with the big smile (68)

4. Rolling Thunder Bob with the big hat and vest (75)

5. Born-again Bob in stylish black suit and crucifix necklace (79)

6. Post-born-again Bob in a variety of interesting suits (83-present)

Just think of the possibilities!!!


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: Blackcatter
Date: 07 Aug 04 - 11:21 AM

Here's the rankings at this point.

George Washington         1872         2117         1726         5715
Ronald Reagan           2974         1394         1295         5663
Millard Fillmore         4011         711         652         5374


George W. Bush                256         218         225         699
James Madison            172         257         265         694
Chester Arthur         81         206         274         561
Woodrow Wilson         66         214         193         473
Gerald Ford            49         167         238         454
Franklin Pierce         25         206         211         442
Zachary Taylor         63         171         201         435
Grover Cleveland         28         213         164         405


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: SINSULL
Date: 07 Aug 04 - 06:08 PM

804 to put Abby on top. Less than 300 needed to unseat Ronnie.


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: SINSULL
Date: 07 Aug 04 - 10:43 PM

Chester Arthur and Woodrow Wilson to move little bush down the line.


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: Blackcatter
Date: 08 Aug 04 - 09:05 PM

That would be Shrub


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: Peace
Date: 08 Aug 04 - 11:00 PM

243 to go.


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 08 Aug 04 - 11:19 PM

Oink!


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: Peace
Date: 09 Aug 04 - 01:32 AM

241


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: Blackcatter
Date: 09 Aug 04 - 11:56 AM

223


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 09 Aug 04 - 12:07 PM

Oink!


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: MMario
Date: 09 Aug 04 - 12:10 PM

LH, what is your point? Are you just upset because Millard is going to be the first US president to be elected posthumously? (For those of you not aware the 'ToyPresident' poll site has replaced the Electoral College)


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: YOR
Date: 09 Aug 04 - 09:29 PM

Millard's Rocking! Ronnie's going down.

Chester Arthur needs your votes too.


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: Blackcatter
Date: 10 Aug 04 - 12:24 AM

Ronald Reagan          2974   1394    1295    5663
Millard Fillmore       4093    718    663    5474


And only 687 votes are needed to put George W in the bottom 10 of the presidents.


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 10 Aug 04 - 12:34 AM

Whaddya mean, what's my point? I just like saying "Oink!". Specially on this thread. It has such resonance, don't you think?


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: SINSULL
Date: 10 Aug 04 - 11:20 AM

And what about Abigail? Surely you don't want to see her husband sharing a shelf with a bush or a Clinton?


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: Blackcatter
Date: 10 Aug 04 - 12:43 PM

LH,

Well you certainly have an echo.


WUFF!


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 10 Aug 04 - 01:04 PM

I bet Abigail would have leaped at the chance to share a shelf with Bill Clinton. That's my guess.

Oink!


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: JennyO
Date: 10 Aug 04 - 01:06 PM

150 to go for Millard Fillmore, and only 12 for Chester Arthur.


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: GUEST
Date: 10 Aug 04 - 04:29 PM

Chester is over the Shrubya - working on woodrow and franklin.


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: Blackcatter
Date: 10 Aug 04 - 04:38 PM

I won't vote for Ford, but that's just me. I'll be voting for those below him as most of them I have no direct grievence with.


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: GUEST
Date: 11 Aug 04 - 10:13 AM

100 to go for Millard. Dubya is 84 votes out of falling to 12th from bottom


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: GUEST,MMario
Date: 11 Aug 04 - 10:25 AM

Abigail needs 300 votes to edge into slot number two - But Darling Frances needs only 7 to put Jackie-O down.


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: GUEST
Date: 11 Aug 04 - 02:06 PM

59 to go to bump Shrubya down one place


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: GUEST,Blackcatter
Date: 11 Aug 04 - 03:26 PM

George Washington 1872 2117 1726 5715
Ronald Reagan 2974 1394 1295 5663
Millard Fillmore 4191 733 674 5598

By the way, i will stop voting for Fillmore after he passes Reagan. Y'all can do what you want.


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: GUEST,MMario
Date: 11 Aug 04 - 03:32 PM

ditto.


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: SINSULL
Date: 11 Aug 04 - 06:49 PM

Someone keeps voting for Hillary Clinton. A 'Catter? This could be grounds for expulsion from the Cat!


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 11 Aug 04 - 06:56 PM

Ha! I vote for dear Hillary every chance I get. I am even thinking of hiring people to vote for Hillary. There are unemployed in this town who need a sense of purpose. You don't like it? Tough. Hillary rules, Frances drools!


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: Marion
Date: 11 Aug 04 - 07:36 PM

Is today the big day, folks?


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: Peace
Date: 11 Aug 04 - 08:42 PM

41 to go. Tomorrow for sure. However, don't publish the paper yet.


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: Blackcatter
Date: 11 Aug 04 - 08:50 PM

I vote for Hillary on occasion, though I'm conflicted since Laura is the best thing about the current administration. I've been mostly voting ofr Eliza Johnson since she was at the bottom of the bunch and Eliza is such a pretty name.


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: Peace
Date: 12 Aug 04 - 03:37 AM

FOURTEEN TO GO.


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: JennyO
Date: 12 Aug 04 - 10:13 AM

TWO TO GO!


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: DMcG
Date: 12 Aug 04 - 10:17 AM

Tying with Reagan when I started voting and two over by the time I finished. We will never know who actually achieved the crucial final vote.   Who knows, it might even not have been a Mudcatter...


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: Blackcatter
Date: 12 Aug 04 - 11:50 AM

George Washington       1872         2117         1726         5715
Millard Fillmore       4254         737         684         5675
Ronald Reagan          2974         1394         1295         5663


By the way, I've been voting for Fillmore in the third position since late May, so most of the 684 are mine.

woo freakin' hoo!


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 12 Aug 04 - 11:53 AM

I've pretty well always voted for Fillmore in the 3rd position...couldn't understand why people didn't spread it around more. He must've gotten at least a hundred votes from me in 3rd position.

Shatnerization has definitely been achieved at Toypresidents!


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: jeffp
Date: 12 Aug 04 - 04:02 PM

WE DID IT!!!!!!


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: Peace
Date: 12 Aug 04 - 04:08 PM

IMO, now that it's done, Washington should go back on top. I think it's enough that Fillmore beat Bush and Reagan.


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: GUEST,Blackcatter
Date: 12 Aug 04 - 04:32 PM

Umm, Bruce - remember that Washington like most of the top presidents were frozen a few weeks ago since they are alreay making or soon will be making them.

Fillmore will forever stay on top unless the rules change again.




Keep voting against Shrub!


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: SINSULL
Date: 12 Aug 04 - 07:12 PM

Now let's put Mrs. Fillmore on top. Only 200 votes to unseat Hillary.


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 12 Aug 04 - 08:40 PM

Never! Hillary rules, Abigail's a fool!


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: Marion
Date: 12 Aug 04 - 10:08 PM

What a sweet day. Fillmore passing Reagan and Washington and going for the gold. And Woodrow Wilson's success as well. And now we can devote all three votes to the Bush-passing group. That talking shrub is right - it is great to be among patriots.

(Good timing for me too - I'm moving town tomorrow and will no longer be able to vote several times a day. But I'll put in a vote for Abigail and the boys when I can.)

Blackcatter said, Fillmore will forever stay on top unless the rules change again - or until some other dark horse develops a cult following of his own.

Little Hawk said, couldn't understand why people didn't spread it around more. Well, I always voted Fillmore first because I figured it would make his inevitable victory all the more resounding - first overall AND by far the most first place votes. Is there a particular reason why you made a point of spreading them around? Doesn't matter now - didn't really matter then - but I'm curious as to your reasoning.

With love and congratulations to all, Marion


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: JennyO
Date: 12 Aug 04 - 10:57 PM

I knew this would happen overnight here. I tried voting as often as it would let me, but in the end, with 20 votes to go, I decided to go to bed. Now we can concentrate on Pierce Ford and Taylor to push Bush down the list. Anyway.........

CONGRATULATIONS MILLARD FILLMORE!


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: Peace
Date: 13 Aug 04 - 02:05 AM

357 to go for Hillary.


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: Peace
Date: 13 Aug 04 - 02:09 AM

JennyO: I AM impressed. Such a lovely colour is ROSETTE on a pale-bluish background.


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 13 Aug 04 - 02:37 AM

Well, I think spreading the votes around looks more balanced, that's all. Besides, I liked having Bill Clinton with the most first place votes, because it makes Republicans turn red and hyperventilate when they see that. :-)


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 13 Aug 04 - 10:49 PM

Millard Fillmore must be stopped
Doo da
Doo da
Millard Filmore must be stopped
Oh doo da day
Gwine t' vote all night
Gwine t' vote all day
Millard Filmore must be stopped
Oh doo da day!


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: Peace
Date: 18 Aug 04 - 12:51 AM

What the hell do 'doo da' mean?

187 to reach 6000. No glasses, but a friend told me how to make the posts larger for the sake of reading with graeter ease. For example, I just misspelled greater. I can see that now.


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: Peace
Date: 18 Aug 04 - 02:49 PM

And again.


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 18 Aug 04 - 04:29 PM

Build a greater cheese grater and the world of mice will beat a path to your door.


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: SINSULL
Date: 18 Aug 04 - 06:29 PM

Our beloved Abby has passed that horrid Clinton woman and is only 301 votes short of unseating Mrs. little bush.

little bush has been passed by Zachary Taylor. Can Grover Cleveland be far behind?


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: Peace
Date: 18 Aug 04 - 06:40 PM

and again


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: GUEST,Prudence Whistlemore
Date: 19 Aug 04 - 02:48 PM

I am back to give you satanic, antisocial subversives my final word on this repellant matter. You are all going to burn in hell for what you have done! So is the Board of Toypresidents, because they stood impotently by and let you do it! So, you have now put Millard Fillmore in first place, and in a totally fraudulent fashion I might add, thereby displacing great leaders such as Washington, Jefferson, and my family's dear friend, the late and lamented Ronald Reagan. You people are vermin. You are worse than vermin. I know that God will punish you hideously for your iniquities and you will try in vain to hide when his wrath descends upon your wicked souls and you burn forever in the fires of Hell!

I can see the obvious hand of Satan in all of this. It was his hand which cunningly duped the Board into freezing the votes on Washington, Reagan, George W. Bush, and the others whose figures have been released or are soon to be in production. This means that the truly great leaders of our beloved country have been artificially underrated and consigned forever to a lower position while relative nonentities like Fillmore and his wife Abigail ascend to the highest spot, confounding and outraging anyone with a true appreciation of American history and a heartfelt commitment to liberty and freedom.

You are worse than Communists! You are worse than Benedict Arnold! You are degenerates of the lowest order imaginable on the human scale as it verges and slides into the dark abyss of inhuman depravity and bestial abandonment!

I relish the thought of the bitter comeuppance that awaits all of you. If it is the last thing I ever do, I shall see that the Great Communicator is restored to his rightful spot as the most popular and beloved President of our glorious Union.

Laugh while you can, you filthy saboteurs! Your doom awaits you!!!


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: Irish sergeant
Date: 19 Aug 04 - 03:21 PM

Prudence;
Go take a bloody valium, soak in the tub and have a stiff shot while you're at it. If you wake up then maybe you'll realize that this is all a big game and the more you protest it the more people like me will gladly participate.
   God has far better things to do than listen to your snivvelling impreciations against us and doesn't care. I am a proud filthy saboteur and my cause is the come uppance of vituperative, humourless people. Satan is far too busy advising George w. Bushes administration to care about us either.
   It's all a bnig joke and by the way, you wouldn't know a Communist if one bit you in the ass. Long live the Millard Fillmore revolution against the self righteous hypocrites! Neil aka Irish Sergeant PS I would fight a battle of wits with you but you appear to be unarmed.


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: Peace
Date: 20 Aug 04 - 01:13 AM

I think that Prudence is getting the hang of this place.


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: Peace
Date: 20 Aug 04 - 03:43 AM

One more time for Hillarity.


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: Hrothgar
Date: 20 Aug 04 - 07:38 AM

Vote for dear, sweet Frances!


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: JennyO
Date: 20 Aug 04 - 11:34 AM

I'm still voting for Abigail - she should be up there in her rightful place next to her husband.


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: Blackcatter
Date: 20 Aug 04 - 03:30 PM

Good lord - y'all still at this? Don't ya know that some of us have gone through a hurricane?


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 20 Aug 04 - 06:36 PM

Ah! People were wondering how you made out, Blackcatter. It's good to hear from you.


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: Peace
Date: 20 Aug 04 - 09:40 PM

He never calls, he never writes . . . .

Voted for Hillary again. Welcome back, BC. Glad you are safe.


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: Peace
Date: 20 Aug 04 - 10:40 PM

And again, FYI.


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: Peace
Date: 21 Aug 04 - 01:06 AM

Again


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: JennyO
Date: 23 Aug 04 - 12:23 AM

Grover Cleveland has just pushed the shrub down another notch!


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: Peace
Date: 23 Aug 04 - 12:31 AM

267 and HILLARY IS OVER BUSH.


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: Peace
Date: 23 Aug 04 - 03:02 AM

i91

I shouldn't do math when I can see. Sorry.


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: Peace
Date: 23 Aug 04 - 03:02 AM

Or focus

can't


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: GUEST,Prudence Whistlemore
Date: 17 Sep 04 - 11:42 AM

It gives me the greatest pleasure and delight to announce to you uncouth Communistic anarchist swine who were packing the ballot box for Millard Fillmore and his silly wife Abigail that SANITY HAS FINALLY PREVAILED AT TOYPRESIDENTS AND ALL YOUR NEFARIOUS PLANS HAVE COME TO NOTHING!!!!!!!!!!

That's right. Nothing! You have failed utterly. The Board of Directors finally got off their behinds and did something about the unconscionable and fraudulent avalanche of phony voting that recently propelled the Fillmores to the top of their respective categories on our patriotic website.

It's over! You have been squelched, stepped on, X-ed out of existence and totally annihilated! Your foolish and subversive efforts have come to naught. We Whistlemores, foremost among America's true patriots in these decadent times, have seen to that.

Let me quote the figures to you as you squirm in impotent fury...

The top 10 presidents on our list now are:

George Washington 5719
Ronald Reagan 5663
William J. Clinton 4853
Thomas Jefferson 4653
Franklin D. Roosevelt 3165
Richard Nixon 3130
Abraham Lincoln 3078
Theodore Roosevelt 2853
John F. Kennedy 2580
Jimmy Carter 2567

I don't see Millard Fillmore there...my, my! Do you see Millard Fillmore there? No you don't, and I'll tell you why:

Millard Fillmore has been pared back down to a miserable 2053 votes by the Board! (far more than he deserves)

That's right, you filthy saboteurs! Ha! Read it and weep, you godless scum. All the hundreds and thousands of hours you morons spent propelling Millard Fillmore to over 5700 votes have come to nothing! You have been defeated by the Spirit of America, embodied in the Board of Directors of Toypresidents.

And that's not the end of it. I intend to see that Fillmore is even further reduced shortly, down to less than 300 votes. Yes indeed. That will set things right. Don't think it won't happen. The forces of justice have been alerted to your devious plot and have your number now. I rub my hands with glee at the thought of you all grinding your teeth in impotent rage at your inability to derail our company and our proud presidential tradition with your moronic pranks.

Oh, and I should mention...his silly wife Abigail has likewise been trimmed down to 301 votes. Ha! Ha! Ha! I sneer in your general direction with utter disdain.

Most Sincerely yours,

Prudence Whistlemore


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: GUEST,the latest posting out at toypresidents
Date: 17 Sep 04 - 11:50 AM

You have voted and we have responded!
The following Toypresidents figures are in Our Collection or are in production.

Name First Second Third Total
George Washington 1872 2118 1729 5719
Ronald Reagan 2974 1394 1295 5663
William J. Clinton 3572 557 724 4853
Thomas Jefferson 760 2172 1721 4653
Franklin D. Roosevelt 961 922 1282 3165
Richard Nixon 1187 958 985 3130
Abraham Lincoln 617 1176 1285 3078
Theodore Roosevelt 855 1095 903 2853
John F. Kennedy 492 991 1097 2580
Jimmy Carter 426 1393 748 2567
George H.W. Bush 474 633 566 1673
Dwight Eisenhower 193 528 581 1302
Harry Truman 276 437 488 1201
Woodrow Wilson 101 303 336 740
George W. Bush 256 218 225 699
All Others    0


Other Presidents you have voted for:

Name First Second Third Total

Millard Fillmore 606 749 699 2054
John Adams 597 619 522 1738
John Tyler 107 663 232 1002
Martin Van Buren 503 261 211 975
Andrew Johnson 257 446 270 973
William H. Taft 106 189 629 924
William Henry Harrison 78 232 606 916
Calvin Coolidge 105 461 338 904
Andrew Jackson 175 318 391 884
Ulysses S. Grant 163 314 389 866
John Quincy Adams 201 365 289 855
James Polk 123 376 343 842
Lyndon Johnson 176 210 413 799
James Madison 180 288 293 761
Gerald Ford 110 311 336 757
Chester Arthur 107 305 330 742
James Monroe 105 279 345 729
Rutherford B. Hayes 147 308 273 728
Grover Cleveland 146 329 253 728
Franklin Pierce 145 315 266 726
Zachary Taylor 126 263 336 725
Herbert Hoover 144 205 371 720
Warren Harding 114 244 353 711
James Garfield 121 230 358 709
James Buchanan 69 150 252 471
William McKinley 29 157 214 400
Benjamin Harrison 19 116 235 370
All Others    0




You have voted and we have responded!
The following Toypresidents figures are in Our Collection or are in production

Name Total
Laura Welch Bush 3119
Hilliary Rodham Clinton 2940
All Others 0


Other First Ladies you have voted for:

Name Total
Nancy Davis Reagan 2200
Frances Folsom Cleveland 1665
Jacqueline Lee Bouvier Kennedy 1542
Elizabeth Bloomer Ford 1093
Anna Eleanor Roosevelt 794
Barbara Pierce Bush 697
Martha Dandridge Custis Washington 675
Hannah Hoes Van Buren 527
Abigail Smith Adams 448
Martha Wayles Skelton Jefferson 370
Dolley Payne Todd Madison 338
Abigail Powers Fillmore 302
Ida Saxton McKinley 233
Harriet Lane Buchanan 221
Mary Todd Lincoln 219
Letitia Christian Tyler 208
Patricia Ryan Nixon 196
Florence Kling Harding 182
Elizabeth Virginia Wallace Truman 178
Rachel Donelson Jackson 172
Mamie Geneva Doud Eisenhower 141
Rosalynn Smith Carter 120
Edith Kermit Carow Roosevelt 87
Claudia Taylor Johnson 86
Sarah Childress Polk 68
Edith Bolling Galt Wilson 53
Lucretia Rudolph Garfield 52
Grace Anna Goodhue Coolidge 51
Eliza McCardle Johnson 47
Anna Tuthill Symmes Harrison 46
Helen Herron Taft 45
Elizabeth Kortright Monroe 40
Julia Dent Grant 40
Ellen Lewis Herndon Arthur 38
Lou Henry Hoover 34
Caroline Lavina Scott Harrison 33
Lucy Ware Webb Hayes 33
Margaret Mackall Smith Taylor 32
Ellen Louise Axson Wilson 32
Julia Gardiner Tyler 31
Louisa Catherine Johnson Adams 29
Jane Means Appleton Pierce 25
All Others 0


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: catspaw49
Date: 17 Sep 04 - 07:37 PM

Unroolie Julie, a champion of the cause over at the Spped Boards was PISSED!   The following is a post from her:



You have got to be kidding me!!!!

What JERKS!!!!

I just sent them the following email-



What in the world happened to Millard Fillmore in top spot? He rightfully won that contest by having a country full of supporters and some overseas as well. I think it's a travesty that you have stolen this campaign victory from the rightful winner.....where are you folks?...Florida.

And by the way, your product is pretty stupid, but you were set to have a bunch of sales of the Millard Fillmore doll from people who worked hard to get him to first position. Too bad you missed your opportunity.

What a sorry lesson you've taught the public and a number of children who were involved in the Millard Fillmore in '04 campaign.

Thanks for nothing Toypresidents!!


Oh and while I was typing it, I got so pissed...I called them......

Let's start another campaign....please email, write or call these cretins and ask why they've robbed Millard of his rightful place at the top of the podium!!


To call - you'll get an answering service so ask for a call back - 1-877-869-7739 (TOY-PREZ).

Email them from their website - www.toypresidents.com/contact.asp

Write -

Toypresidents
14025 Interdrive East
Houston, TX 77032

Let it not be said the LOTI will be denied!!!! ONWARD TROOPS there's a battle to be waged!!!!! man, can you tell I'm a little ill about this?


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: Hrothgar
Date: 18 Sep 04 - 05:28 AM

Prudence, you are a cheat.


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: GUEST
Date: 07 Jan 05 - 04:57 PM

dumb butt face!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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Subject: RE: BS: Millard Fillmore MUST BE STOPPED!!!
From: SINSULL
Date: 07 Jan 05 - 06:39 PM

They lost my business! And little do they know how many people I inflict moving/talking dolls on! They could have set a record this year but NO! They robbed our candidate of his victory as surely as Jeb Bush robbed Gore of the presidency. As if anyone is going to buy a George Washington doll - GIANT YAWN!


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