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BS: England - France

Ranks 13 Jun 04 - 04:39 PM
Peace 13 Jun 04 - 04:43 PM
s&r 13 Jun 04 - 04:44 PM
The Shambles 13 Jun 04 - 04:44 PM
Ranks 13 Jun 04 - 04:46 PM
Peace 13 Jun 04 - 04:50 PM
akenaton 13 Jun 04 - 05:03 PM
The Villan 13 Jun 04 - 05:12 PM
Wolfgang 13 Jun 04 - 05:18 PM
ard mhacha 13 Jun 04 - 05:24 PM
greg stephens 13 Jun 04 - 05:25 PM
The Villan 13 Jun 04 - 05:26 PM
akenaton 13 Jun 04 - 05:26 PM
The Villan 13 Jun 04 - 05:29 PM
C-flat 13 Jun 04 - 05:35 PM
Wolfgang 13 Jun 04 - 05:43 PM
The Villan 13 Jun 04 - 05:48 PM
GUEST,Pierre 13 Jun 04 - 05:58 PM
The Villan 13 Jun 04 - 05:59 PM
GUEST 13 Jun 04 - 06:04 PM
Peace 13 Jun 04 - 06:07 PM
Ed. 13 Jun 04 - 06:41 PM
harvey andrews 13 Jun 04 - 06:50 PM
Ed. 13 Jun 04 - 07:18 PM
McGrath of Harlow 13 Jun 04 - 08:41 PM
GUEST,Seaking 13 Jun 04 - 09:01 PM
The Shambles 14 Jun 04 - 01:55 AM
GUEST,Sarah 14 Jun 04 - 03:43 AM
Folkiedave 14 Jun 04 - 03:52 AM
Teribus 14 Jun 04 - 04:08 AM
GUEST 14 Jun 04 - 04:38 AM
George Papavgeris 14 Jun 04 - 04:44 AM
GUEST,Jon 14 Jun 04 - 04:44 AM
Sttaw Legend 14 Jun 04 - 05:26 AM
The Shambles 14 Jun 04 - 12:19 PM
Big Tim 14 Jun 04 - 12:29 PM
GUEST,Jon 14 Jun 04 - 01:42 PM
The Shambles 14 Jun 04 - 02:43 PM
The Villan 15 Jun 04 - 04:13 AM
ard mhacha 15 Jun 04 - 10:46 AM
The Villan 15 Jun 04 - 10:58 AM
ard mhacha 15 Jun 04 - 04:49 PM
Arnie 15 Jun 04 - 04:59 PM
The Villan 15 Jun 04 - 05:03 PM
McGrath of Harlow 15 Jun 04 - 05:55 PM
Strollin' Johnny 16 Jun 04 - 12:40 PM
Strollin' Johnny 16 Jun 04 - 12:45 PM
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Subject: BS: England - France
From: Ranks
Date: 13 Jun 04 - 04:39 PM

Shit happens


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Subject: RE: BS: England - France
From: Peace
Date: 13 Jun 04 - 04:43 PM

Yeah. So, who won?


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Subject: RE: BS: England - France
From: s&r
Date: 13 Jun 04 - 04:44 PM

who won what?


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Subject: RE: BS: England - France
From: The Shambles
Date: 13 Jun 04 - 04:44 PM

If you are one goal up at 90mins, you might expect to concede a goal and draw the game. To concede two and lose it....."**!!


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Subject: RE: BS: England - France
From: Ranks
Date: 13 Jun 04 - 04:46 PM

Bruice, I suppose you live at the other end of the world.
England was leading up to the 90th Minute. Beckham missed a penalty in the second half. Zidane scored a free-Kick in the 91st minute. In the 93rd Minute he scored a penalty after a terrible mistake of the English defense.


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Subject: RE: BS: England - France
From: Peace
Date: 13 Jun 04 - 04:50 PM

OK, Ranks, thanks. I saw both Edmonton and Montreal lose a few like that and I know it hurts.


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Subject: RE: BS: England - France
From: akenaton
Date: 13 Jun 04 - 05:03 PM

Sorry for the England team who deserved a draw.
Very pleased for the TV pundits, who had the game all wrapped up for England, even to the extent of imagining what the crowd chants would be next year. Not that Im saying they were biased of anything!!
Sanctimonious farts!!


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Subject: RE: BS: England - France
From: The Villan
Date: 13 Jun 04 - 05:12 PM

Beckham should be dropped. He is a tosser. He should have scored the penalty. He earns enough money. He is a tw*t.
second time he has let us down.
Gary Neville should join him. What a gormless idiot he is!!!!!!!!!


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Subject: RE: BS: England - France
From: Wolfgang
Date: 13 Jun 04 - 05:18 PM

Zidane was better than Beckham.

The English shouldn't be too disappointed. The comments in Germany:

If the final is as good as this game was we can be glad (Beckenbauer).
I see neither Switserland nor Croatia beating one of these two teams (commentator).

Wolfgang


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Subject: RE: BS: England - France
From: ard mhacha
Date: 13 Jun 04 - 05:24 PM

Relax Villian,England should have no problem qualifying, Croatia and Switzerland are two very ordinary sides, old Stan Lynn wouldn`t have let the French in with time almost up.
The tears are tripping me, a good laugh is wonderful to go to sleep on.


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Subject: RE: BS: England - France
From: greg stephens
Date: 13 Jun 04 - 05:25 PM

Oct 21 1805


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Subject: RE: BS: England - France
From: The Villan
Date: 13 Jun 04 - 05:26 PM

ard mhacha

How do you know about stan lynn

Are you a brummy? :=)


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Subject: RE: BS: England - France
From: akenaton
Date: 13 Jun 04 - 05:26 PM

Villian...Dont blame Beckham for the penalty miss,he struck the ball well,Barthes guessed correctly,end of story.
If you want to blame anyone ,blame Eriksson, who took off Rooney, the only man who posed a danger to the French on the break.
Although England played well defensively, France were well ahead on chances created and thats what matters in modern football...Ake


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Subject: RE: BS: England - France
From: The Villan
Date: 13 Jun 04 - 05:29 PM

I blame him because he earns a fortune and should have put it away.
I wish I could earn what he does for being a failure.


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Subject: RE: BS: England - France
From: C-flat
Date: 13 Jun 04 - 05:35 PM

I think Rooney needed to come off before he blew a fuse and got sent off. I agree that he looked our best prospect though.
To be fair we were hanging on by the skin of our teeth for a large part of the game. It just seemed more cruel that it all went tits-up in the last few minutes.
Both Beckham and Owen were dissapointing when we needed a massive showing from them.


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Subject: RE: BS: England - France
From: Wolfgang
Date: 13 Jun 04 - 05:43 PM

Didn't Beckham and Barthez play for a long time in the same team?

Then Beckham's mistake was to try the penalty at all. Never shoot a penalty against a goalie who knows you too well.

Wolfgang


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Subject: RE: BS: England - France
From: The Villan
Date: 13 Jun 04 - 05:48 PM

You got it Wolfgang. Beckham has no brains :-)


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Subject: RE: BS: England - France
From: GUEST,Pierre
Date: 13 Jun 04 - 05:58 PM

Viva La France!!


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Subject: RE: BS: England - France
From: The Villan
Date: 13 Jun 04 - 05:59 PM

Boo locks and all that cheese and garlic :-(


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Subject: RE: BS: England - France
From: GUEST
Date: 13 Jun 04 - 06:04 PM

French women wish to make love with the English football team.

On the grounds that they can stay on top for 90 minutes and still come second.

Dave


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Subject: RE: BS: England - France
From: Peace
Date: 13 Jun 04 - 06:07 PM

LOL


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Subject: RE: BS: England - France
From: Ed.
Date: 13 Jun 04 - 06:41 PM

The 'nazi salutes' of a certain secton of the crowd, whilst singing "God Save the Queen" makes me, sadly, quite glad that we lost.


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Subject: RE: BS: England - France
From: harvey andrews
Date: 13 Jun 04 - 06:50 PM

Wolfgang made one of my points. The other is that there should have been at least one player on the post for the French 2nd goal. Both decisions the manager obviously rejected.


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Subject: RE: BS: England - France
From: Ed.
Date: 13 Jun 04 - 07:18 PM

The second goal was a penalty. I don't think that you're allowed to have players "on the post" in such situations...


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Subject: RE: BS: England - France
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 13 Jun 04 - 08:41 PM

The 'nazi salutes' of a certain secton of the crowd, whilst singing "God Save the Queen"...

I thought they had both hands stretched out, in the shot on TV, not just the one. Which would mean they weren't actually "nazi salutes".

A penalty that is saved is not the same as a penalty that is missed. That was a bloody good save.


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Subject: RE: BS: England - France
From: GUEST,Seaking
Date: 13 Jun 04 - 09:01 PM

At this point it would have been nice to be enjoying some consolation from the weekend's Rugby Union Test results.

Oh well, there's always Wimbledon and Tim to cheer us all up.....

(Good Cricket result though..)


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Subject: RE: BS: England - France
From: The Shambles
Date: 14 Jun 04 - 01:55 AM

Thing good thing appears to be that the travelling supporters did not create trouble, unlike many so-called fans at home - after watching the game on pub TVs and getting drunk.

Rooney was a plus, looking like a young Zidane, but he had done enough by that point and was simply not able to chase and hold the ball up. I think Wolfgang may have a point about the penalty taker. The goal keeper took an (educated) guess and was right. Had he not been well known to the keeper, he may well have guesed wrong. But the French defender (yet another Man Utd player) should have been sent off, as the last man. This should have been a goal and would have changed everything. But this would have made a good final - let us hope that it still may.....


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Subject: RE: BS: England - France
From: GUEST,Sarah
Date: 14 Jun 04 - 03:43 AM

Brilliant example of how to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory!

We're very good at that.

Cheers
Sarah


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Subject: RE: BS: England - France
From: Folkiedave
Date: 14 Jun 04 - 03:52 AM

The English football team and Sheffield United share the feature of reliability.

They always let you down on the big occasions.

Dave
www.collectorsfolk.co.uk


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Subject: RE: BS: England - France
From: Teribus
Date: 14 Jun 04 - 04:08 AM

As stated above early days and both England and France should qualify from this group.


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Subject: RE: BS: England - France
From: GUEST
Date: 14 Jun 04 - 04:38 AM

Rooney looking like a young Zidane? Looking like a young potato as usual....though he did play his socks off. Reckon Nancy was right to sub him tho, as I reckon a main French tactic was to needle him into being sent off.


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Subject: RE: BS: England - France
From: George Papavgeris
Date: 14 Jun 04 - 04:44 AM

Truly sorry for England, nasty way to lose a match. Just like Beckham's free kick against Greece in the dying minutes, eh? Only the other way round now. Some things come back to haunt you. Oh well, I still expect to see England in the semis at least.

And who knows, with Greece having won their match on Friday... revenge could still be mine - he, he!

Dreams cost nothing, right?
"Hell Arse" - clap-clap-clap!
"Hell Arse" - clap-clap-clap!


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Subject: RE: BS: England - France
From: GUEST,Jon
Date: 14 Jun 04 - 04:44 AM

According to this page, there were 83 arrests in England related to the game. I'm afraid that takes me back to thinking about PEL issues... Football on tv should be subjected to at least the same conditions as our live music.

Anyway, on to the game... I really do feel disappointed and dissapointed for the team who came close to what I believed would have been a deserved victory or at worst, a draw. All is not lost though and I think if England keep thier heads up, they will still progress in the competition.


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Subject: RE: BS: England - France
From: Sttaw Legend
Date: 14 Jun 04 - 05:26 AM

The England Football Coach, Sven Goran Ericsson is on "Who Wants To Be A Millionaire" and has reached the million pound question.
Chris Tarrant says "Right Sven, this is for one million pounds, and remember, you still have two lifelines left, so please take your time.' Here's your question: What type of animal lives in a Sett ?   
Is it...
a) a badger
b) a ferret
c) a mole or
d) a cuckoo?
Sven ponders for a while and says "No, I'm sorry Chris, I'm not too sure. I'll have to go 50-50."
Right, Sven, let's take away two wrong answers and see what you're left with. " Badger" and "Cuckoo" are the two remaining answers.
Sven has a long think, then scratches his head and says "No, Chris, I'm still not sure, I'm going to have to phone a friend."
So who are you going to call, Sven?" says Chris. Hmmm.. I think I'll call David Beckham." So Tarrant phones David Beckham.
"David, this is Chris Tarrant from 'Who Wants To Be A Millionaire'. I've got Sven Goran Ericsson here, and with your help he could win
one million pounds. The next voice you hear will be Sven's". "Hello David" says Sven. "It's the boss here. What type of animal
lives in a sett? Is it a badger or a cuckoo?" "It's a badger, boss." says Becks without hesitation.

"You sure, son?" says Sven. "Definitely, boss. One hundred per cent. It's a badger. Definitely."
"Right, Chris," says Sven, "I'll go with David. The answer's a badger.

Final answer.
" Sven," says Chris, "That's the correct answer. You've won One Million Pounds!!"

Cue wild celebrations.

Next morning at training, Sven calls Beckham across. "Son, that was brilliant last night. I thought I might be taking a gamble
giving you a call, but you played a blinder! But how the hell did you know that a badger lives in a sett?"

Oh... I didn't, boss," replies Beckham, "But everybody knows a cuckoo lives in a clock"


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Subject: RE: BS: England - France
From: The Shambles
Date: 14 Jun 04 - 12:19 PM

I'm afraid that takes me back to thinking about PEL issues... Football on tv should be subjected to at least the same conditions as our live music.

I have today written to my MP. I have requested that he ask the Minister this. There are powers in the Act that will allow the Secretary of State to introduce this TV pub sport, to require entertainment permission. I really think it is time to do this and try and prevent what is happening now - and before there is a major inccident.

The letters that are written making this request, to more difficult it will be for our Government to refuse to....


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Subject: RE: BS: England - France
From: Big Tim
Date: 14 Jun 04 - 12:29 PM

Nobody, not even Stan Lynn, whoever he was, could have stopped Zidane'e free kick. It was a masterpiece.

OK Beckham pissed a pen: that can happen to anyone. Remember he set up England's goal. Michael Owen was the weakest link.


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Subject: RE: BS: England - France
From: GUEST,Jon
Date: 14 Jun 04 - 01:42 PM

Nice one Shambles, Pip and I will draft one up to send to Norman Lamb but I'm doubtful he will show any interest....

(Sorry about the PEL drift BTW, I don't want to take over this thread with it but do feel that 83 arrests may give us an oppertunity to ask questions.)


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Subject: RE: BS: England - France
From: The Shambles
Date: 14 Jun 04 - 02:43 PM

See

A little more news on Licensing


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Subject: RE: BS: England - France
From: The Villan
Date: 15 Jun 04 - 04:13 AM

LOL Stan Lynn was a right back in the late 50's who played for Aston Villa.
I believe he holds the record for the most amount of goals scored in a season for a full back.
If he had taken the penalty, the french goalkeeper would have gone in the net as well. He must have had the hardest shot in football.


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Subject: RE: BS: England - France
From: ard mhacha
Date: 15 Jun 04 - 10:46 AM

Sorry Villian for not answering your question about Stan Lynn, a wee bit of knowledge I will impart.
There are a hell of us paddies that have been to more football grounds in England than many a born Brummie and all of the old players would have been as familiar to us as your local supporters.
Tim some day I wll devise a football quiz for you, not all about the wee Celts.
And don`t all those Englishmen have egg on their face after Henrik`s two magnificent goals, not good enough for the English Premier?, Henrik would grace any league in the world.


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Subject: RE: BS: England - France
From: The Villan
Date: 15 Jun 04 - 10:58 AM

Peter (or Paccy to his friends) McParland to you then :-)


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Subject: RE: BS: England - France
From: ard mhacha
Date: 15 Jun 04 - 04:49 PM

Close Villian,it is Packy.


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Subject: RE: BS: England - France
From: Arnie
Date: 15 Jun 04 - 04:59 PM

Drop Owen and bring on Alan Smith I say - even though he's made the traitorous move over the Pennines. Still, we can't really lose against Switzerland and Croatio - can we????????//


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Subject: RE: BS: England - France
From: The Villan
Date: 15 Jun 04 - 05:03 PM

LOL

Close Villian,it is Packy.

Never could spell that.

Great player


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Subject: RE: BS: England - France
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 15 Jun 04 - 05:55 PM

Still, we can't really lose against Switzerland and Croatia"

You really shouldn't have said that.


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Subject: RE: BS: England - France
From: Strollin' Johnny
Date: 16 Jun 04 - 12:40 PM

Villan, the real sinner wasn't Beckham. He was on a hiding to nothing, taking a huge pressure-shot against his ex-ManU-colleague who probably knows his penalty technique better than his PA knows his jock-strap size!

The real villain, Villan, is that great useless lummox Heskey. What in hell's name was a gormless cart-horse, whose job is to put the fear of God into the opposing centre-backs in t'other half of the field, doing on the edge of his own box and tackling from behind when two defenders were already chaperoning the French guy out towards the side-line?? Insanity.

And equal-second were Gerrard and James. Gerrard for the worst back-pass I've ever seen (even I used to do better than that when I was the reserve defender for Gainsborough Chestnuts), and "Captain Kamikaze" James for a manoeuvre that could only ever have two results - Henry on the deck and a penalty taken by the best player in the world - (If the ground-mics had been closer we'd probably have heard him screaming "Banzai" as he began his dive) when he should have stayed on his feet, made himself big and made Henry work for a result.

If those three hadn't committed schoolboy errors, the success or failure of Beckham's penalty would have been totally immaterial.

Strollin "Bites Yer Legs" Johnny :0)


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Subject: RE: BS: England - France
From: Strollin' Johnny
Date: 16 Jun 04 - 12:45 PM

Here it is again with better grammar!

Villan, the real sinner wasn't Beckham. He was on a hiding to nothing, taking a huge pressure-shot against his ex-ManU-colleague who probably knows his penalty technique better than his PA knows his jock-strap size!

The real villain, Villan, is that great useless lummox Heskey. What in hell's name was a gormless cart-horse, whose job is to put the fear of God into the opposing centre-backs in t'other half of the field, doing on the edge of his own box and tackling from behind when two defenders were already chaperoning the French guy out towards the side-line?? Insanity.

And equal-second were Gerrard and James. Gerrard for the worst back-pass I've ever seen (even I used to do better than that when I was the reserve defender for Gainsborough Chestnuts), and "Captain Kamikaze" James for a manoeuvre that could only ever have two results (If the ground-mics had been closer we'd probably have heard him screaming "Banzai" as he began his dive)- Henry on the deck and a penalty taken by the best player in the world - when he should have stayed on his feet, made himself big and made Henry work for a result.

If those three hadn't committed schoolboy errors, the success or failure of Beckham's penalty would have been totally immaterial.

Strollin "Bites Yer Legs" Johnny :0)


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Subject: RE: BS: England - France
From: GUEST,Scott
Date: 16 Jun 04 - 01:00 PM

"Zidane was better than Beckham" surely he IS better than Beckham. Any England fans singing there we went, there we went, there we went.


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Subject: RE: BS: England - France
From: The Villan
Date: 16 Jun 04 - 01:22 PM

Beckham is overated.

The others are just prats (is it with one or two t's)


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Subject: RE: BS: England - France
From: Folkiedave
Date: 16 Jun 04 - 03:44 PM

So good I posted it on the joke thread too!!


It's alleged that one of the French football players has failed a drugs and alcohol test yesterday after the match against England. If this is confirmed as positive, under UEFA rules, paragraph 6 sub section 2e, France will forfeit the first group match 3-0. Scroll down for the full transcript of the full report.


































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Dave


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