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Subject: BS: getting rid of groundhogs
From: RangerSteve
Date: 14 Mar 04 - 10:55 AM

I have a trap, but it's illegal in New Jersey to transport animals from one area to another, due to the chance of spreading diseases around. I think my neighbor, who owns a horse stable tried to shoot them a few days ago, but wasn't successful. I also bought a powder that's soaked in fox urine, which I'm supposed to sprinkle around the groundhog's den and in my garden, but I don't know if it will work yet. A friend said get a fifty gallon drum and fill it with water and pour it into the hole, making sure the escape route is blocked, and drown the sucker. I don't have access to a fifty gallon drum. Are there any sure-fire products on the market for getting rid of them, or do any of you have any methods that have worked in the past? I want to have a vegetable garden this year, something more than just tomatoes, which seems to be the one thing that groundhogs won't eat. Thanks, Steve.


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Subject: RE: BS: getting rid of groundhogs
From: Midchuck
Date: 14 Mar 04 - 11:50 AM

Ahem. "Groundhog" is just another name for "Woodchuck."

Be afraid. Be very afraid.

Also, rent, and watch, "Caddyshack" (the original one).

Peter. (of Woodchucks' Revenge)


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Subject: RE: BS: getting rid of groundhogs
From: Allan C.
Date: 14 Mar 04 - 01:01 PM

Whistle pigs, as they are known as in some circles, are rather timid critters. They don't like open ground much at all for fear of being nabbed by a predator. If there is any high grass or other cover near the hole you found, cut it down, if at all possible. You can use their fear of predation by installing things in the area that move - especially some that move eccentrically with just the slightest breeze. The cheap, aluminum pie pans can be of some use - especially if they are cut into smaller wedges. Don't bunch them together, though. Spread them randomly throughout the area. Groundhogs are very afraid of hawks. If you can, paint one or two halves of the pie pans a dark color and suspend them high overhead on string or fishing line.


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Subject: RE: BS: getting rid of groundhogs
From: MickyMan
Date: 14 Mar 04 - 01:53 PM

I have a large Have-A-Heart trap. What would I put in it if I wanted to catch a Whistle-Pig, but not a Chihuahua(sp???).

Shoulder up your gun and call up the dogs,
   Shoulder up your gun and call up the dogs,
Away to the woods to catch a groundhog.....groundhog.

PLEASE SEND IN MORE VERSES


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Subject: RE: BS: getting rid of groundhogs
From: Amos
Date: 14 Mar 04 - 01:59 PM

I like groundhawg stewed or fried
I like groundhawg stewed or fried
Big mess o' sweet patater by the side....Groundhog!

C'mon boys, fat and thin
C'mon boys, fat and thin
Come and watch the gravy run down my chin -- Groundhog!

Etc etc,,,


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Subject: RE: BS: getting rid of groundhogs
From: Art Thieme
Date: 14 Mar 04 - 03:19 PM

Remove this song from your song list and your troubles will be over !!!

Art Thieme


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Subject: RE: BS: getting rid of groundhogs
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 14 Mar 04 - 03:32 PM

"I also bought a powder that's soaked in fox urine"

I suppose there's an enterprise somewhere which manufactures this. Imagine trying to get a bank loan to set up something like that...


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Subject: RE: BS: getting rid of groundhogs
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 14 Mar 04 - 03:51 PM

"I also bought a powder that's soaked in fox urine"

I suppose there's an enterprise somewhere which manufactures this. Imagine trying to get a bank loan to set up something like that...


If they can trap the foxes, why not the groudhogs?


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Subject: RE: BS: getting rid of groundhogs
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 14 Mar 04 - 03:55 PM

Where I come from, whistle pigs are hoary marmots, a high mountain critter in the west. Marmot information (including woodchucks).

Our local organic gardening guy has said to put human hair down the hole. You can also use your own urine to mark the territory.


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Subject: RE: BS: getting rid of groundhogs
From: Amos
Date: 14 Mar 04 - 04:04 PM

I put my shlong into a some hole
To mark my lawn, my aceage fair
But shortly screamed and rose on high
And fell to earth, I knew not where!

Ground hogs are teasing, and some are pleasing
Their claws are sharp, their teeth are thick
But ground hogs fall into disrepute
When they nip the end off of your dick

There is a groundhog, lives in my lawn
And if I must try til I'm ninety three
His life will soon or later be gone
Revenge for what he's done to me.



Ah well, it's crude but I couldn't resist the image of some poor bastard trying to mark those tunnels without observing correct procedure...


A


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Subject: RE: BS: getting rid of groundhogs
From: Deckman
Date: 14 Mar 04 - 04:39 PM

Hey Stilly River Sage ... I sure hope you did it after dark! Bob


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Subject: RE: BS: getting rid of groundhogs
From: Deckman
Date: 14 Mar 04 - 04:42 PM

Allen C's advice is right on. They ARE very shy creatures. Except for their bad eating habits, they are rather pleasant neighbors. I live in Washington State, which for some stupid reason, banned all animal trapping. We are now overun with many critters. Bob


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Subject: RE: BS: getting rid of groundhogs
From: Rapparee
Date: 14 Mar 04 - 05:10 PM

Block the exits and fill the holes with water. Forget the 55 gallon drum; use a hose if you can.

Woodchucks are decent eating, if you want to do that.

I can think of all sorts of traps, deadfalls, snares and suchlike that should work, but I'm not going to describe them here. Take a stroll down to the local public library and check out the books on wilderness survival techniques.

Might be easiest to pay an exterminator, though.


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Subject: RE: BS: getting rid of groundhogs
From: Peace
Date: 14 Mar 04 - 05:12 PM

Try cayenne pepper down the holes.


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Subject: RE: BS: getting rid of groundhogs
From: RangerSteve
Date: 14 Mar 04 - 05:33 PM

Thanks for all the tips. The human hair should be easy to get from my barber. The fox urine is for real. You can also buy it in its pure liquid form, the same goes for coyote and bobcat urine. Collecting it has to rank with collecting bull semen as the worst imaginable job around.


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Subject: RE: BS: getting rid of groundhogs
From: Little Hawk
Date: 14 Mar 04 - 05:39 PM

Call up Clinton Hammond! He is an expert at murdering small nondomesticated animals in a hideous fashion.

Why do you want to kill the groundhog anyway? Groundhogs are fun to watch, cute, and they add class to a neighborhood. They can also help predict changes in the weather. If you take the time to get to know a groundhog it can lead to all kinds of enjoyable things.

Song:

I put my finger in the woodchuck hole
The woodchuch said "Lord bless my soul!
Take it out! Take it out! Take it out!
Remove it!!!"


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Subject: RE: BS: getting rid of groundhogs
From: Mark Clark
Date: 14 Mar 04 - 07:34 PM

If you can plug all the entrances, you can gas them to death. There are poison smoke bombs for the purpose or you could dump some potassium cyanide down the hole, add some water and plug the entrance.

I get these critters where the back yard falls away into a wooded ravine. They dig their tunnels right at the edge and if left to do their work, cause severe erosion of the area because of rain water washing through the tunnels. Shooting them isn't legal inside our city limits and they're so shy they run at the slightest sound so it's hard to draw a bead on one.

I'd estimate the weight of the groundhogs I get at 18 - 25 lbs. My neighbor traps them and releases them on the other side of the river. He uses a wire live-trap.

      - Mark


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Subject: RE: BS: getting rid of groundhogs
From: MMario
Date: 14 Mar 04 - 07:40 PM

we have many woodchucks - most of the time the brazen critters ignore us -(a behavior we believe they learned from the rabbits ) though they HAVE learned what the shotgun looks like. The cats won't tangle with the 'chucks - though they HAVE taken care of the rabbits.

At least the chucks tend NOT to eat our garden plants - they prefer grazing the lawn - probably because they DEN in the gardens...


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Subject: RE: BS: getting rid of groundhogs
From: Gareth
Date: 14 Mar 04 - 07:59 PM

Hmmm ! I was criticiozed in a prevoius thread for relating the use of a crude form of Napalm against Termites in East Africa, but as Gasoline is cheap in the uS of A !!!

And it is the American WAy !!!

Or alternatively buy yourself a Python, or Boa Constrictor, I think importing a Diamondback into yor yard might bee a little antisocial !

Gareth


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Subject: RE: BS: getting rid of groundhogs
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 14 Mar 04 - 08:00 PM

They were there first, before humans came around and messed up the place...


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Subject: RE: BS: getting rid of groundhogs
From: Little Hawk
Date: 14 Mar 04 - 08:59 PM

My, my. All this fuss and bloodthirstiness over a harmless large rodent that eats a little grass... :-)

Okay. Fine. Let's get into the spirit of this. I suggest a ground level tactical nuclear strike. That should fry the groundhog right in his burrow. Very effective! Call up the Pentagon and see if you can convince them he's an Al Queda operative.

Another idea: Hire the Mafia to do the job. They don't charge all that much to hit a groundhog, because it involves little risk. None, in fact. It doesn't take much guts to shoot a groundhog.

Another idea: Pave over the entire area to a radius of 1/2 kilometre with sixteen inches of solid concrete. The groundhog will be trapped underground and die a slow and terrible death from starvation and thirst.

Another idea: Construct a special prognosticating chair outside the groudhog's hole, suitable for looking for shadows, and wire it up as an electric chair. When the groundhog emerges to check his shadow on next Feb 2nd, he will sit in the comfy chair. Then you throw the switch and fry him with 80,000 volts! He won't see his shadow, and we'll get an early spring in 2005.

After all, the VITAL thing here is getting RID of the groundhog, right? Who can bear living in proximity to a filthy groundhog? Who, I ask you????

- LH


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Subject: RE: BS: getting rid of groundhogs
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull
Date: 14 Mar 04 - 09:06 PM

Wahts a groundhog?, and waht do you wqant to kill it for anyway?

you should be nice to animals, and not kill them, [unless they taste good, or they dangerous like big lions etc, then obviosly you have to kill them, in case they eat you [or your family, [kids, wife etc].
that would be bad, if my wife and kids was eaten by a groundhog, i would be really fed up.


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Subject: RE: BS: getting rid of groundhogs
From: Little Hawk
Date: 14 Mar 04 - 09:33 PM

Hi, jOhn. A groundhog is a large burrowing rodent found throughout North America. If you rent the very funny movie, "Groundhog Day", starring Bill Murray and Andi McDowell, you can get some close-up views of a groundhog. They're almost unbelievably cute, fat, and inoffensive creatures that dig a deep burrow and eat grass. They are diurnal, emerging at dawn to munch on fresh grass. They like sunny days. They are also called woodchucks. They look a little like an enormous hamster, but without the big ears sticking up. They have very small ears, hardly visible.

Country people used to eat them in the old days. They like grassy areas a lot, so they are attracted to built up areas by the lawns.

- LH


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Subject: RE: BS: getting rid of groundhogs
From: Peace
Date: 14 Mar 04 - 09:36 PM

Glad you left out the p there LH. Started a row last time someone p'eed in the hamster.


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Subject: RE: BS: getting rid of groundhogs
From: Peace
Date: 14 Mar 04 - 09:41 PM

Simple way is to omit the initial g in the word.


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Subject: RE: BS: getting rid of groundhogs
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull
Date: 14 Mar 04 - 09:46 PM

you shouldent kill hamsters, hamsters are good.jhon


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Subject: RE: BS: getting rid of groundhogs
From: Peace
Date: 14 Mar 04 - 09:52 PM

They are indeed. A little basil and scallions, mild touch of garlic, salt and pepper: boom, Bob's yer uncle. Delicious.


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Subject: RE: BS: getting rid of groundhogs
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 14 Mar 04 - 11:14 PM

John, here is a marmot photo. Amos and Deckman, you two have overactive imaginations! I don't have woodchucks, so I haven't tested these remedies. I do have rabbits and snakes and tarantulas, but I'm not trying to get rid of them (at least, the rabbits are okay as long as I can keep them out of the garden).

SRS


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Subject: RE: BS: getting rid of groundhogs
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull
Date: 14 Mar 04 - 11:31 PM

groundhog =Guinea Pig?


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Subject: RE: BS: getting rid of groundhogs
From: Peace
Date: 14 Mar 04 - 11:53 PM

Don't put them in the mincer.


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Subject: RE: BS: getting rid of groundhogs
From: Little Hawk
Date: 14 Mar 04 - 11:56 PM

No, John. They are much larger than guinea pigs. I know that's hard to believe, but it's true.


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Subject: RE: BS: getting rid of groundhogs
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 15 Mar 04 - 12:00 AM

John, they can look alike but if you look at this search you'll see that they're actually smaller and varied colors. That's not to say they aren't related. I don't know how close (other than both being rodents).

SRS


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Subject: RE: BS: getting rid of groundhogs
From: Little Hawk
Date: 15 Mar 04 - 12:03 AM

I think the only larger rodent may be the capybara in South America.


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Subject: RE: BS: getting rid of groundhogs
From: Peace
Date: 15 Mar 04 - 12:11 AM

Beaver?


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Subject: RE: BS: getting rid of groundhogs
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull
Date: 15 Mar 04 - 12:12 AM

oh,

anyway=waht they taste like?


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Subject: RE: BS: getting rid of groundhogs
From: pdq
Date: 15 Mar 04 - 12:25 AM

On average, beaver are larger than groundhog. So are porcupine. They are all rodents, although the latter has a bit of an attitude problem as rodents go.


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Subject: RE: BS: getting rid of groundhogs
From: Peace
Date: 15 Mar 04 - 01:18 AM

But, they taste good.


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Subject: RE: BS: getting rid of groundhogs
From: Shanghaiceltic
Date: 15 Mar 04 - 04:47 AM

Well we have had Smack the Pingu, Shoot the Kitty, so why should Groundhogs be exempt?

http://www.miniclip.com/wack.htm

Sorry still cant get that blue clicky thing to work.


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Subject: RE: BS: getting rid of groundhogs
From: JennyO
Date: 15 Mar 04 - 08:23 AM

My best score 9/20


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Subject: RE: BS: getting rid of groundhogs
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 15 Mar 04 - 09:50 AM

Large American rodents. Couldn't find a page that included the South American stuff also. More print information with a few photos of capybara (the links at the bottom are mostly null).


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Subject: RE: BS: getting rid of groundhogs
From: SINSULL
Date: 15 Mar 04 - 10:28 AM

I just discovered a groundhog in my garden...actually my cats discovered her. She is nesting under my shed and hopefully has babies. In my last home, the groundhog befriended one of my cats and left her to babysit the little ones while she rummaged around for food. I have pictures of Aunt Lizzie minding the babies.

Why would anyone hurt a groundhog? I am planninf on planting a vegetable garden for mine. Any idea what she will like?


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Subject: RE: BS: getting rid of groundhogs
From: Uncle_DaveO
Date: 15 Mar 04 - 10:35 AM

Up jumped Sal with a snicker and a grin
Up jumped Sal with a snicker and a grin
Groundhog grease all over her chin
GROUND-HOG!!!!

Dave Oesterreich


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Subject: RE: BS: getting rid of groundhogs
From: GUEST
Date: 15 Mar 04 - 10:36 AM

A good .22 rifle with scope and practise practise practise ;-)


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Subject: RE: BS: getting rid of groundhogs
From: Uncle_DaveO
Date: 15 Mar 04 - 10:38 AM

Now that we're getting all these verses to "Groundhog!", maybe it's musical enough to go upstairs!

Dave Oesterreich


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Subject: RE: BS: getting rid of groundhogs
From: Uncle_DaveO
Date: 15 Mar 04 - 10:48 AM

Come on, Sam, and let's be wise
Come on, Sam, and let's be wise
I think I see his beaded eyes!
GROUND-HOG!

'Long come Sam with a ten-foot pole
'Long come Sam with a ten-foot pole
Roust that groundhog out of his hole
GROUND-HOG!

Come on Sam and pull 'im out
Come on Sam and pull 'im out
Great God A-Mighty, ain't a ground hog stout!
GROUND-HOG!

Dave Oesterreich


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Subject: RE: BS: getting rid of groundhogs
From: Blackcatter
Date: 15 Mar 04 - 12:02 PM

Ok everyone - how about getting rid of moles?

My boss has had them in his yard for over a year. They dig tunnels under the grass which makes it spongy and unattractive. He doesn't use all the chemicals and poisons in his yard that all the neighbors use so not only is his yard pretty poison free, but it is filled with tasty grubs and worms (which are good for the lawn and plants).

We've tried a professional setting traps but the traps almost never work, and it's costing a lot of money considering the effectiveness. I found that castor oil is use to spray on the lawn because universities have tested that moles don't like the flavor of it and if you soak the lawn with it, the worms get coated with the oil and the moles will supposedly move away to find better tasting worms. We've tried it over the past few months and it isn't working.

Any ideas? Personally I could care less because I'm pretty much anti-lawn, but he's my boss and it would be good to have an actual solution to this issue.

Thanks!

Blackcatter


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Subject: RE: BS: getting rid of groundhogs
From: Peace
Date: 15 Mar 04 - 12:05 PM

Dermatologist.


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Subject: RE: BS: getting rid of groundhogs
From: Amos
Date: 15 Mar 04 - 12:32 PM

I'd try running a garden hose down the mole-hill. There are also smoke bombs which at least will show you where their escape hatches are!

A


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Subject: RE: BS: getting rid of groundhogs
From: Amos
Date: 15 Mar 04 - 12:35 PM

These people make a gel-based mole poison which sounds effective if you're willing to kill them.

A


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Subject: RE: BS: getting rid of groundhogs
From: pdq
Date: 15 Mar 04 - 12:43 PM

Here is a outfit that claims to know how to get rid of moles:

             http://www.molecatchers.com/

http://www.molecatchers.com/
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Subject: RE: BS: getting rid of groundhogs
From: pdq
Date: 15 Mar 04 - 12:57 PM

Heerz another one, them "blue clickys" can be fun...

http://www.Groundhog-Control.us


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Subject: RE: BS: getting rid of groundhogs
From: Little Hawk
Date: 15 Mar 04 - 01:09 PM

Pipe hip hop music into every tunnel you can find. Crank it up LOUD. The moles will leave.


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Subject: RE: BS: getting rid of groundhogs
From: GUEST,peggy pegleg
Date: 03 Jul 04 - 02:39 PM

went to buy a bee-bee gun but i'd rather use the money for shoes - the gentleman at the gun counter told me to mix 1 cup of plaster of paris with 1 cup of sugar - notify the neighbors to keep their pets out of your yard (which they should be doing anyway) - - i haven't tried it yet tho i did buy the plaster of paris today.


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Subject: RE: BS: getting rid of groundhogs
From: kendall
Date: 03 Jul 04 - 10:24 PM

Get a dog


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Subject: RE: BS: getting rid of groundhogs
From: Bobert
Date: 03 Jul 04 - 11:18 PM

I'm with GUEST. Off the somabich...

Hey, to you it maqybe a groundhog, to me its a big rat and, as a gardener, the enemy.

You trap it and illegally relocate this big rat and guess what? Another will move right in. Ask me how I know...

Off the hedgehog and if another one moves in, off it too...

I hate them free-loaders... Do they till the garden, plant the garden 'er weed it? Heck no... They're friggin' rats. All they fo is let you do the work and then they eat your plants.

Like I said, kill 'um all...

I got moles and vols... If I could shoot 'um I would but they hide underground and eat the roots of my plants... I use mouse traps at their little rodent holes.... Up to well over 50 this year... I wish it were 1050... Sho nuff do...

I hate rat and rodents. They carry disease and kill yer plants...

It's okay...

It really is to...

Off them rats...

The Usually Peaceful Bobert


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Subject: RE: BS: getting rid of groundhogs
From: GUEST,margo
Date: 07 Jul 04 - 09:05 PM

TRIED TO TRAP A GROUND HOG, AND ENDED UP WITH A SKUNK. NOW WHAT? CALLED THE TRAPPER TO COME AND GET RID OF THE SKUNK. BEING A HOLIDAY HE DIDN'T WANT TO COME OUT. HE WOULD CHARGE $200. HE TOLD US HOW TO LET IT GO, THROW A TARP OVER THE TRAP AND OPEN THE DOOR AND HE WOULD COME OUT. HE PROBABLY WOULD NOT SPRAY YOU. DIDN'T LIKE THE PROBABLY PART. SO WE OPENED THE DOOR AND LUCKY FOR US HE RAN OFF AND NEVER LOOKED BACK. WE WERE TOLD NOT TO TRAP AT NIGHT. BEEN TRYING FOR A WEEK DURING THE DAY - NO LUCK TRYING TO CATCH MR. GROUNHOG!!!! PROVES ONE THING. HE SMARTER THAN A SKUNK.


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Subject: RE: BS: getting rid of groundhogs
From: Joybell
Date: 07 Jul 04 - 09:27 PM

I met a Marmot once, high up in the mountains in Colorado. I'm very keen on them. Please save a few for me to see when we come back for a visit next year. The fox or dog urine trick is supposed to work on our possums and on rabbits. It doesn't you know. It doesn't work on our Swamp Rats either. Cute little critters, Swamp rats. Joy


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Subject: RE: BS: getting rid of groundhogs
From: GUEST,.gargoyle
Date: 07 Jul 04 - 11:41 PM

Place "calcium carbide" deep in one #1hole.

Cover

Place a lit 15minute highway-safety-flare in the second connecting #2 hole.

Water - SOAK #1 hole thoroughly with hose or bucket.

Leave the immediate area (100 feet plus) - until the acetylene explosion - and permanent extermination of the critter.

Sincerely,
Gargoyle

Works well for skunks under porches, also.


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Subject: RE: BS: getting rid of groundhogs
From: Rapparee
Date: 08 Jul 04 - 09:38 AM

That'll plow your fields, lawn, garden or whatever too, Garg. I kinda like it, but I suspect others won't.

Run a hose to the hole and flood 'em out, if you can.

Toss one of those sulfur-contained smoke bombs down the hole. This will also let you know where the other holes are -- be sure to put a sandbag or something on the first hole, though.

But I agree with Bobert. If you can, get someone who's a good shot to sit off about fifty years and shoot the little buggers.

You can eat groundhogs, if you care to.

Blood meal will keep dogs and cats off your property; might work for other critters as well.

Or keep, as Kendall suggested, a dog.


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Subject: RE: BS: getting rid of groundhogs
From: GUEST,MMario
Date: 08 Jul 04 - 09:53 AM

Anyone want some? We have a colony - burrows in most of our gardens - and they seem to be of several varieties - leastwise one is almost black, one a very golden blond (almost palamino colour) a grey one, a brown one.

they don't do as much damage as the deer though - as the cats and the groundhogs "respect" each other - and thus the groundhogs don't come near the house. Though they dig up the gardens they don't eat most of the plants - preferig to keep the cover around their burrows and grazing out on the lawn.

Though they *DO* love Gerbera daisies.


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Subject: RE: BS: getting rid of groundhogs
From: Bert
Date: 08 Jul 04 - 03:24 PM

...they don't do as much damage as the deer though... Well I dunno, the ones in our yard ate every scrap of every single vegetable that we had planted, the moment that the seedlings appeared.

I wanted to shoot the stupid neighbor who was feeding the little buggers, but Tree wouldn't let me.

The dog or the cats didn't seem to bother them.

We just gave up on the garden.


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Subject: RE: BS: getting rid of groundhogs
From: GUEST,MMario
Date: 08 Jul 04 - 03:40 PM

our cats definately bother the groundhogs - but then again we have BIG cats. (we've decided their father was either a mountain lion or a golden retriever - their mom was a dainty little six pound tortoiseshell)


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Subject: RE: BS: getting rid of groundhogs
From: Little Hawk
Date: 08 Jul 04 - 03:49 PM

I'm in favour of groundhogs. The more groundhogs the better. I'm in favour of rabbits too. Moles I can fairly much do without. If any groundhog wants to dig a hole on my property, he is welcome to. If a groundhog ran for President and I was an American citizen I would vote for him.


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Subject: RE: BS: getting rid of groundhogs
From: Rapparee
Date: 08 Jul 04 - 03:51 PM

Try bloodmeal. It's also a good fertilizer. The only drawback is that if you use too much, after a rain your yard will smell like an abattoir.


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Subject: RE: BS: getting rid of groundhogs
From: Little Hawk
Date: 08 Jul 04 - 04:24 PM

Phooey. You people are sick. There is almost no situation that cannot be improved by the addition of a groundhog. They're so fat and cute and lovable.


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Subject: RE: BS: getting rid of groundhogs
From: Bert
Date: 08 Jul 04 - 07:18 PM

There is almost no situation that cannot be improved by the addition of a groundhog...

Hmmm I dunno about that. I can't see a groundhog improving my love life much, yours maybe.


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Subject: RE: BS: getting rid of groundhogs
From: Little Hawk
Date: 08 Jul 04 - 07:36 PM

Trust you to think of something like that!


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Subject: RE: BS: getting rid of groundhogs
From: Rapparee
Date: 09 Jul 04 - 09:29 AM

Sure glad you said "almost", LH. How about:

When you're receiving the Nobel Peace Prize and the King trips over one?
You find one in your beer?
You find one in your toilet -- when you have diarrhea?
You find one in your toilet?
One pops up in the middle of a session -- sticking its head out of the hole it's eaten in your accordion?
One steals your bicycle?
One steals your car?
One steals your girl/boy friend?

No, I can't think of almost any situation that can't be improved by the absence of a groundhog.

Except, of course, for Groundhog Day. Hmmmmm-UM, but they're delicious.


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Subject: RE: BS: getting rid of groundhogs
From: GUEST
Date: 09 Jul 04 - 09:31 AM

make sure you remove the scent glands immediately when dressing out the carcasse.


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Subject: RE: BS: getting rid of groundhogs
From: Little Hawk
Date: 09 Jul 04 - 11:06 AM

They have scent glands?

Okay, guys, there are a few situations that cannot be improved by a groundhog. I admit that. Still, I think groundhogs are very loveable and add that special touch to any property containing an expanse of lawn. They also eat grass. This can be handy. If one could persuade large numbers of groundhogs to move in it would reduce the need for lawncutting.

I managed to get within 6 inches of a groundhog the other day and was he every surprised when he realized I was there. He was a lovely sight indeed, peering out of his hole in the ground.


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Subject: RE: BS: getting rid of groundhogs
From: Bert
Date: 09 Jul 04 - 11:26 AM

Musk glands I think.

Cute was not the word that immediately came to mind for the one that ate all the vegetables in my garden.

He was a fat furry dirty gray ball. I could see no redeeming qualities whatsoever.


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Subject: RE: BS: getting rid of groundhogs
From: GUEST,MMario
Date: 09 Jul 04 - 12:06 PM

Bert - you wold probably have enjoyed seeing this as much as we did...

a couple weeks ago we were cleaning one of our goldfish ponds - this involves pumping it out after having stirred it up to distribute as much silt as possible into the water being pumped out. You actually pump a thickish slurry of mud.

There was a groundhog burrow in the side of the hill next to the pond - and to avoid the mess of pumping across the lawn, we decided to just send the slurry down the hole.

after about 2 hours of pumping we were extremely surprised to see a groundhog come barreling out of the burrow - coated in the mud - madder then a wet hen! It was perturbed - to say the least!


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Subject: RE: BS: getting rid of groundhogs
From: Rapparee
Date: 09 Jul 04 - 12:10 PM

You actually saw a groundhog peeing out of its hole???

Did you get pictures, by any chance? The best we have around here is Old Faithful and such.


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Subject: RE: BS: getting rid of groundhogs
From: Little Hawk
Date: 09 Jul 04 - 12:11 PM

I'll bet it was perturbed! What a shocking and inexplicable experience for a poor groundhog to be subjected to.

Bert, I can understand your concerns about the vegetable garden. If I had a vegetable garden I would be much more worried about groundhogs. What you have here is a simple conflict of interest. I don't see any easy solution. :-) By the way, I suspect the groundhog was less than thrilled with your appearance as well.


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Subject: RE: BS: getting rid of groundhogs
From: Bert
Date: 09 Jul 04 - 12:46 PM

The solution was easy. Just don't plant anymore veggies.


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Subject: RE: BS: getting rid of groundhogs
From: Little Hawk
Date: 09 Jul 04 - 01:46 PM

So this means both you and the groundhog are getting less fresh veggies, Bert. That's unfortunate.

I said "peering", Rapaire, peering!


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Subject: RE: BS: getting rid of groundhogs
From: Rapparee
Date: 09 Jul 04 - 04:19 PM

Is pee ring like a smoke ring?

If so, that's one talented groundhog you got there.


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Subject: RE: BS: getting rid of groundhogs
From: Little Hawk
Date: 09 Jul 04 - 04:28 PM

Oh, you'd be amazed what they can do with a little encouragement. :-)


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Subject: RE: BS: getting rid of groundhogs
From: TheBigPinkLad
Date: 09 Jul 04 - 05:36 PM

Perhaps they would move out with a little encouragement? ;o)


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Subject: RE: BS: getting rid of groundhogs
From: YOR
Date: 09 Jul 04 - 09:51 PM

An old friend has a cattle farm in the area. He just lets the three big dogs take care of the groundhogs. Talk about dogs with bad breath, man! 25 years of filing in the holes has been a real pain in the a$$.


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Subject: RE: BS: getting rid of groundhogs
From: JennyO
Date: 10 Jul 04 - 12:47 PM

I would be happy to vote for a groundhog at the next election. It would be bound to be an improvement over what is on offer here at the moment.


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Subject: RE: BS: getting rid of groundhogs
From: Little Hawk
Date: 10 Jul 04 - 01:12 PM

I'll second that.

Why would anyone fill in a groundhog hole? What's the problem with a groundhog hole? It's a less than 1 square foot natural looking feature in a piece of ground, for heaven's sake. People put up buildings that take up several thousand square feet and then they complain about a groundhog hole?

The groundhog has the decency to have a dwelling that is 99% underground and unseen, thus minimizing interference with others. Pity people couldn't be similarly inclined.

Indians never filled in ground hog holes, because to do so is a complete waste of time. (Of course, they did eat the groundhogs...)


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Subject: RE: BS: getting rid of groundhogs
From: YOR
Date: 10 Jul 04 - 09:48 PM

Cattle fall and break their legs in groundhog holes. Farmers hate them with a passion. Hummm, steak tonight.


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Subject: RE: BS: getting rid of groundhogs
From: Little Hawk
Date: 11 Jul 04 - 07:49 PM

Well, then, they should build a little cattle-proof iron fence around the groudhog hole, with a groundhog-sized entrance in it. This would solve the problem of injured cattle and look good too, if it was painted up in a nice color.


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Subject: RE: BS: getting rid of groundhogs
From: GUEST,Violet Kanda
Date: 12 Jul 04 - 08:49 AM

I am so disgusted to read messages of people about barbaric way of killing groundhogs.
I wonder if these uncivilized cold blooded people are killed same way they kill groundhogs how they 'enjoy' their horrible death!!!
It is so sad to know there are so many cold blooded uncivilized people in this world who have no feeling for sentient creatures who are only trying to survive.
I trap groundhogs with special trap in summer and release them in deep country near the lake in summer.
These groundhogs eat up my vegetables and I get upset but I wait until summer to trap them because they are nursing their babies in spring.
Just my thought about people and groundhogs.


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Subject: RE: BS: getting rid of groundhogs
From: TheBigPinkLad
Date: 12 Jul 04 - 01:30 PM

Why haven't we heard from the Pied Piper on this thread?


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Subject: RE: BS: getting rid of groundhogs
From: GUEST,.gargoyle
Date: 13 Jul 04 - 12:27 AM

No fire - no flares - no cigarettes in the vicinity.

It will kill all grass in the area - but use one liter of high octain (better fumes) gasoline poured down the main burrow.

Gasoline fumes are heavier than air - the critter - over 30 minutes will be afixiated. Lease the burrow open to allow ventilation through ALL chambers.

Sincerely,
Gargoyle


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Subject: RE: BS: getting rid of groundhogs
From: GUEST,Andy
Date: 14 Sep 04 - 04:24 AM

If you need to get rid of any coons, groundhogs and live in the michigan area get ahold of me. I have dogs that will successfully climb in a hog den keep them at bay while I dig to them. Capture the hog and dispatch or release it another loation upon the farmers request. Won't charge you a red cent!

Email: trixiiz@aol.com
ICQ: 8218548
AIM/AOL instant messenger: hi im TRiX


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Subject: RE: BS: getting rid of groundhogs
From: Wilfried Schaum
Date: 15 Sep 04 - 03:00 AM

Carbide. If you can't buy it pure, look for a weedkiller with a high percentage of carbide in it.
Put stuff into the hole.
Fill up with water.
Light the gas.
Your lawn, field or other kind of ground will change its overall appearance slightly, but you should get rid of the suckers.


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Subject: RE: BS: getting rid of groundhogs
From: GUEST
Date: 08 Nov 06 - 01:01 PM

i love the way it is now am not goping back with him


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