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BS: Bush and the State of the Union

Amos 20 Jan 04 - 12:06 PM
Amos 20 Jan 04 - 12:41 PM
Ebbie 20 Jan 04 - 01:00 PM
McGrath of Harlow 20 Jan 04 - 01:13 PM
Amos 20 Jan 04 - 01:16 PM
Don Firth 20 Jan 04 - 02:14 PM
McGrath of Harlow 20 Jan 04 - 02:34 PM
Cruiser 20 Jan 04 - 02:55 PM
GUEST 20 Jan 04 - 06:02 PM
SINSULL 20 Jan 04 - 10:46 PM
Stilly River Sage 20 Jan 04 - 10:47 PM
Cruiser 20 Jan 04 - 10:52 PM
Walking Eagle 20 Jan 04 - 11:02 PM
Cruiser 20 Jan 04 - 11:09 PM
Bobert 20 Jan 04 - 11:09 PM
katlaughing 20 Jan 04 - 11:13 PM
CarolC 20 Jan 04 - 11:15 PM
Amos 20 Jan 04 - 11:15 PM
GUEST,Johnny in OKC 20 Jan 04 - 11:16 PM
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Cruiser 20 Jan 04 - 11:24 PM
Bobert 20 Jan 04 - 11:26 PM
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Subject: BS: Bush and the State of the Union
From: Amos
Date: 20 Jan 04 - 12:06 PM

The sharp-toothed, weasel-eyed leader of the free world will be coming before the world tonight to deliver an address called the State of the Union; in it, traditionally, it his duty to inform Congress of issues and accomplilshments of note and his recommendations for the next year.

Perhaps even more important, in delivering this years address, he has an opportunity to undo the rattling of fences he began with his "axis of evil" speech of two years ago. Whether he does so or not might well be the "litmus test" of the man's mind -- merely deviously tactical (blue) or bloodthirsty and dangerously psychotic (red).

I believe that he will commit some serious faux pas tonight; but I won't bet on what they are.

A


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Subject: RE: BS: Bush and the State of the Union
From: Amos
Date: 20 Jan 04 - 12:41 PM

From a recent email from MoveOn.org:

One thing that President Bush probably won't mention in his speech tonight is how the bill came to pass. In the House, the vote was extremely tight: even some Republicans knew they couldn't justify the bill to their home districts. So, House Leaders held the vote open for three hours in the dead of night while they twisted the arms of the last few hold-outs. Rep. Nick Smith (R-MI), a retiring Congressman whose son will run for his seat, was one of them. Here's how the Associated Press reported the events that followed:

"On the House floor, [Rep.] Nick Smith was told business interests would give his son $100,000 in return for his father's vote. When he still declined, fellow Republican House members told him they would make sure Brad Smith never came to Congress. After Nick Smith voted no and the bill passed, [Rep.] Duke Cunningham of California and other Republicans taunted him that his son was dead meat."

Bribing House members on the House floor is, of course, a felony, and Rep. Smith has confirmed that this account is accurate. No special investigation has been launched. The bribers are still at large.

The story, in the end, is pretty simple: drug companies and insurance companies gave millions of dollars to push through legislation. The bill will greatly increase their profits while pulling the rug out from under our seniors. President Bush is trying to spin that huge sell-out as a benefit to the American people. And we won't let him.

Sincerely,
--Adam, Carrie, Eli, James, Joan, Laura, Noah, Peter, Wes, and Zack
The MoveOn.org Team


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Subject: RE: BS: Bush and the State of the Union
From: Ebbie
Date: 20 Jan 04 - 01:00 PM

I always tell myself when the bush makes a speech that I'll listen. But just a few minutes in, I'm compelled to turn him off and wait for his speech in text. When he's speaking, you can fair hear the tinny jangle of the strings being pulled.


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Subject: RE: BS: Bush and the State of the Union
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 20 Jan 04 - 01:13 PM

Here's a link to the piece that The Independent gave its whole front page vere to today - a href="http://news.independent.co.uk/world/americas/story.jsp?story=482947">George W Bush and the real state of the Union

It's a checklist of a whole range of fugures that I would doubt if Bush would want peole to pay too much attention to. For example:

9.2: Average number of American soldiers wounded in Iraq each day since the invasion in March last year

1.6: Average number of American soldiers killed in Iraq per day since hostilities began

16,000: Approximate number of Iraqis killed since the start of war

10,000: Approximate number of Iraqi cililians killed since the beginning of the conflict

$100 billion: Estimated cost of the war in Iraq to American citizens by the end of 2003


Considering that the number of people in the UK (in anyM.I> politcal party) who need convincing that it'd be great to see the back of Bush must be vanishingly small, it seems a strange use of a front page - but maybe they hope it might get across to some online reades in America.


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Subject: RE: BS: Bush and the State of the Union
From: Amos
Date: 20 Jan 04 - 01:16 PM

LOL!! Nicely turned, Ebbie!

A


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Subject: RE: BS: Bush and the State of the Union
From: Don Firth
Date: 20 Jan 04 - 02:14 PM

I intend to watch, but it might be a good idea to keep a couple of air-sick bags handy.

Don Firth


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Subject: RE: BS: Bush and the State of the Union
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 20 Jan 04 - 02:34 PM

That link went wrong I missed out a bracket - here it is right:

Here's a link to the piece that The Independent gave its whole front page over to today - George W Bush and the real state of the Union


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Subject: RE: BS: Bush and the State of the Union
From: Cruiser
Date: 20 Jan 04 - 02:55 PM

Copied from my recent post:

I will force myself to watch the State Of The Union address tonight because that is my civic duty as a U.S. citizen, but the sight of Mr. Bush and his diction is just about all I can take.


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Subject: RE: BS: Bush and the State of the Union
From: GUEST
Date: 20 Jan 04 - 06:02 PM

If you MUST watch this sort of drivel, I suggest this idea to help the time pass more quickly, or drown out the annoying sound of the strings, if you prefer. :)

In a recent Molly Ivins column, she said she has a new #1 favorite Bushism. It comes from the new book that quotes a lot from Bush's fired top man at Treasury, Paul O'Neil. It is a direct quote from a meeting about Bush tax cut #3:

"Didn't we already give money to the rich people?"


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Subject: RE: BS: Bush and the State of the Union
From: SINSULL
Date: 20 Jan 04 - 10:46 PM

Did anyone else catch the "deer in the headlights" look on Bush's face when he stated "The Patriot Act will expire in (whatever time period)" and the Democrats applauded? hee hee

I watched the entire speech and consumed a whole bag of chips to settle my nerves. Set my diet back two weeks.

I am looking to retire in a few years. $35/month for a 10% discount on drugs (but isn't that up to a set amount and then I pay the next $1500-$2000 before it kicks in again?) Social Security will be at least partially privatized - so where is my payment coming from? I have been contributing for over 40 years.

A few billion to help ex cons get jobs. Wouldn't that be better spent while they are in jail so that they are ready to function when they become ex-cons?

Bush's high moral tone when discussing drugs and children is laughable. His own children, following his example, have demonstrated serious drug related problems. Do as I say not as I do?

And of course, there were weapons of mass destruction. Say it often enough and it becomes common knowledge.

To bed.


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Subject: RE: BS: Bush and the State of the Union
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 20 Jan 04 - 10:47 PM

I tried to watch it, but I couldn't do it. The lies are so conspicuous, I can't sit and listen and think that there are gullible, uninformed Americans listening and believing his statements. Instead, we turned the sound down, and finally the tv off, while the kids and I watched the 26 runner-up ads over at MoveOn.org. They were a good antidote.

SRS


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Subject: RE: BS: Bush and the State of the Union
From: Cruiser
Date: 20 Jan 04 - 10:52 PM

I watched the SOTU speech. He said what I expected.

Does anyone else think it a bit silly to have all the applause and standing ovations during any SOTU speech? Then some commentator states that the speech was interrupted 70 times by applause and enumerates the number of standing ovations.

Tradition I guess.


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Subject: RE: BS: Bush and the State of the Union
From: Walking Eagle
Date: 20 Jan 04 - 11:02 PM

Listened to some cool jazz instead. Miss Ella was scatin' her heart out! I'll get the text of the speech and read it.


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Subject: RE: BS: Bush and the State of the Union
From: Cruiser
Date: 20 Jan 04 - 11:09 PM

Mr. Bush has his own style of scat, which makes me blue.

He often improvises with meaningless syllables.


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Subject: RE: BS: Bush and the State of the Union
From: Bobert
Date: 20 Jan 04 - 11:09 PM

Five letter word: Crock!

Man, geeze oh man, if this guy ain't a lieing then he ain't a breathin'. The two go together.

Man, if he can get the half the 98% of the folks who are gettin' screwed by him and his buddies to vote fir him then that'sd a sad commontary on the intellegence of the American people.

Man, oh, man. They outta just call him the "vasoline president" cause we know exactly what he's about: screwin' over the world and the citizens of the US as well.........

Normal........

Bobert


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Subject: RE: BS: Bush and the State of the Union
From: katlaughing
Date: 20 Jan 04 - 11:13 PM

I tried, too, but couldn't stomach it, not even on mute with closed captioning, which, by the way, had a very funny typo. He was talking about destruction of some regime and the CC read the "Baptist regime." Talk about irony!

Kerry and Kennedy made some good points after. I though Pelosi and Daschle were very disappointing; they sounded like canned cookie-cutter advertisements, no passion, no fire, no nothing, just bland feedback.


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Subject: RE: BS: Bush and the State of the Union
From: CarolC
Date: 20 Jan 04 - 11:15 PM

The Union is in a state, and that's a fact ;-)


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Subject: RE: BS: Bush and the State of the Union
From: Amos
Date: 20 Jan 04 - 11:15 PM

Vaseline doesn't grow on Bushes, Bobert!! :>) But it's an accurate handle. Mister Teflon Prevarication. The text (which is the only way I could handle the speech) was enough to make me sneer and work hard to keep my lunch in place. I agree, the moralizing on parenting is pretty thin. I gotta hand it to you Sins, I didn't have the stomach to do what you did. On the other hand, I stuck to my diet!

A


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Subject: RE: BS: Bush and the State of the Union
From: GUEST,Johnny in OKC
Date: 20 Jan 04 - 11:16 PM

Start to finish. I haven't missed one since the
Eisenhower administration. This was the worst yet.

The first half hour: bragging about how we crushed
Iraq and captured Saddam. No mention of what to do next
over there.

What made ME sick was the sight of all the Democrats
standing and applauding all this. Of course, a lot of
them were responsible for abrogating congress'
constitutional responsibility for making war, or not.

Then some mention of investing Social Security in the
stock market, and a phony medical program paid for by
tax cuts for the rich.

I also noticed there was no mention of Mars.

Back to practising. JOHNNY


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Subject: RE: BS: Bush and the State of the Union
From: CarolC
Date: 20 Jan 04 - 11:21 PM

Sinsull, JtS noticed the "'deer in the headlights' look on Bush's face". I'm sorry to say I wasn't facing the TV when it happened. I would like to have seen that.


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Subject: RE: BS: Bush and the State of the Union
From: Cruiser
Date: 20 Jan 04 - 11:24 PM

Kat: I heard Baptist. I must admit Baathist (if that is what he meant) is hard to pronounce for the average person. And even harder for the less than average.....


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Subject: RE: BS: Bush and the State of the Union
From: Bobert
Date: 20 Jan 04 - 11:26 PM

I agree with you, Johnny OKC, I would have organized a "Walk Out" after the first lie, set up a counter "State of the Union" adress accross the street and shown Bush to be the liar that he is...

Bobert


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Subject: RE: BS: Bush and the State of the Union
From: Mickey191
Date: 20 Jan 04 - 11:30 PM

An aside to Walking Eagle: One of my favorites, by Miss Ella: "Can't We Be Friends?" She was Heaven!

I could not stand to watch his bushness. That smirk would haunt my dreams tonight. I switched over once, thinking he might be finished, & heard him say housing starts were WAY UP. Then I switched him off. Someone tell me please, did he happen to mention all time record of foreclosures & bankruptcies? Food Banks with no food. How well his plan for no overtime
pay is working out? All the little goodies he's given
to his friends?

Barf bag is right-gimme two.

Does anyone see any hope in Kerry's seeming attraction of young voters to his run. Be great if there was a new coalition of seniors & juniors to unseat this bastard.


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Subject: RE: BS: Bush and the State of the Union
From: katlaughing
Date: 20 Jan 04 - 11:46 PM

Cruiser, I hadn't thought of that; since I had the sound on mute, only had the typo to go by, but I am sure you are right about it. Thanks, I appreciate it.

kat


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Subject: RE: BS: Bush and the State of the Union
From: Cruiser
Date: 21 Jan 04 - 12:13 AM

Kat,

This was copied from the online version of the SOTU transcript from the Washington Post:

"Having broken the Baathist regime, we face a remnant of violent Saddam supporters."

Mr Bush did say baptist. Baathist has 3 syllables.


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Subject: RE: BS: Bush and the State of the Union
From: Thomas the Rhymer
Date: 21 Jan 04 - 12:14 AM

President George W. Bush adressed his admirers tonite. He talked a bit about steriod use in sports, and how it's a bad example for our young... Seemed to me the 'ovation' section of the gallery had taken quite a few for the performance... Sure were a lot of long faces in the 'other places' as Bush layed his golden eggs... they smell rotten... hold your nose...

T'would be interesting if we could get a count of the lies, like we did the 'applause interruptions'...

It was indeed shocking to witness the 'democratic rebellion' when Bush was cheered against, re the tax cut time limit...

That speech was a tough pill to swallow.

Bush seemed stilted, and most of us've been jilted...

IMHO... his public speaking is almost as bad as his policies... there is not even a trace of presence in his delivery, ie, he is so obviously just reading words... I felt like saying "yeah sure, but where is the man that is speaking?" Who is GWB?

Meanwile, Iraqis are marching in the streets in ever growing numbers... in the name of democracy and self determination... Seems that the Ten Thousand dead civilians means something to them... What a tragedy... and a travesty...
ttr


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Subject: RE: BS: Bush and the State of the Union
From: Cruiser
Date: 21 Jan 04 - 12:40 AM

I guess I am getting picky here.

Requiring Mr. Bush to correctly pronounce verbiage trisyllabically is asking a little too much. Any attempts at polysyllabic wordage would put him in the category of qualifying for his "No Child Left Behind" program that he talked about so much in the SOTU.


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Subject: RE: BS: Bush and the State of the Union
From: LadyJean
Date: 21 Jan 04 - 01:00 AM

If I can find health insurance that I can afford I can deduct it from my taxes!
And the horse you rode in on George, and the horse you rode in on!


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Subject: RE: BS: Bush and the State of the Union
From: katlaughing
Date: 21 Jan 04 - 01:43 AM

Cruiser, well said!**bg**

Thanks for the clarification on baptist...wonder if that will be added to the bushisms on Page-A-Day calendars.


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Subject: RE: BS: Bush and the State of the Union
From: Wolfgang
Date: 21 Jan 04 - 04:30 AM

Considering that the number of people in the UK (in anyM.I> politcal party) who need convincing that it'd be great to see the back of Bush must be vanishingly small, it seems a strange use of a front page (McGrath)

From the polls available online at the Guardian yesterday:
Question: In as much as his actions affect us here in Britain and the rest of the world generally are you satisfied or dissatisfied with the job George Bush does as President of the USA:

satisfied 32% (Labour voters: 39 %)
dissatisfied 57% (Labour voters: 54 %)

Maybe the Independent doesn't consider 32 % 'vanishingly small'?

Wolfgang


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Subject: RE: BS: Bush and the State of the Union
From: harvey andrews
Date: 21 Jan 04 - 08:09 AM

I noticed that at the finish Bush pointed out that God is an American. Strangely the God of the people he calls terrorists isn't.Apparantly there are also quite a few more Gods that aren't American either. Lots of voices claiming God is on THEIR side.
Only God appears to be silent on this issue.


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Subject: RE: BS: Bush and the State of the Union
From: GUEST
Date: 21 Jan 04 - 08:24 AM

Well, the gang of 500 reviews are in, and consensus is, the speech pretty much sucked, even for Bush.

Not only that, but even Faux News gave it a thumbs down!

From a Washington Post article today:

"Over on the Fox News Channel, Fred Barnes, sounding as if he had walking pneumonia, allowed as how he'd heard George W. Bush deliver many an important and eloquent speech over the years, "and this was not one of them." It takes courage to say something like that on the Fox News Channel, normally a Bush cheering section."

Can't wait to see the Dems take this administration down! It will be so validating.

There was some very noticeable applause when Bush said parts of the Patriot Act would expire next year...before he asked that they be renewed!


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Subject: RE: BS: Bush and the State of the Union
From: Walking Eagle
Date: 21 Jan 04 - 11:51 AM

Glad I didn't see it. I really needed sleep last night.

Harvey, I'd sure hate to have the job as God, wouldn't you? *VBG*!


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Subject: RE: BS: Bush and the State of the Union
From: Peg
Date: 21 Jan 04 - 11:57 AM

I sat and hecked the whole time. I watched ABC's coverage. I did enjoy seeing people in the audience, including military personnel, roll their eyes and shake their heads after repeatedly feeling compelled to standand applaud for the umpteenth time.

Also there was a great shot of Edward Kennedy shaking his head and smirking in disbelief at something Bush was saying; I have forgotten it now but I think it was about health care...

Pelosi was scary; even more robotic than Condi Rice. If she'd been speaking for the Republicans I would have found her scary because of her look and demeanor. Daschle was better but not much. Why these canned responses prepared before they've even heard the speech?


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Subject: RE: BS: Bush and the State of the Union
From: Bobert
Date: 21 Jan 04 - 01:06 PM

Well, upon reading about the State of the Union Address in the Post this morning just a few thought have come to my mind:

1. These dreadful things are nothing more than pep rallies in which the opposition is forced to participate.

2. Democracy certainly is in trouble when the Legislature has been wittled down into mass of admiriers of the Executive.

3. I don't think that the Founding Fathers wanted one person to have so much power.

4. The American people have placed way too much responsibility on thier presidents and turned them into heros to be worshipped. or anti-worshippped, which is just about the same.

5. Our democracy has not produced govern-ment but rulers.

6. In spite of my stated plans to work for the Dems, there is more need for a *new* party now than ever.

7. A constitutional ammendment banning same sex marriages is nothing more than a smoke screen. Porgressives should not be sucked into this game. Lets talk *reciprocal benificiaries* (sp) which is really at issue here.

8. The Bush administration continues to be Hell-bent on scaring people. How many times did Bush make reference to war? 30? 40?...

Well, those are just a few of thing that have been running thru my feeble mind this morning and I haven't even asked the Wes Ginny Slide Rules fir it's take on the pep rally...

Bobert


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Subject: RE: BS: Bush and the State of the Union
From: GUEST,Larry K
Date: 21 Jan 04 - 01:37 PM

Cost of the war on terrorism                         87 billion
Cost of Howard Dean campaign in Iowa                  10 million
Cost of John Kerry's "big dig" im Mass.                6 billion
Cost of George Soros contributions                   15 million
Cost of pissing of democrats with 4 more years       PRICELESS
of George W. and 4 more seats in Senate

Cost of capturing Sadaam and making world safer for
our children.......


Larry


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Subject: RE: BS: Bush and the State of the Union
From: Don Firth
Date: 21 Jan 04 - 01:46 PM

I watched the whole furshlugginer thing and although I thought I would be writing a whole screed today, I find I don't really have all that much to say about it. I didn't hear anything that I didn't expect to hear. I glanced through the reactions to the speech in this morning's Seattle Times, and one of the letters expressed just about everything I would have to say about the speech. A man who lives in Bellevue, across Lake Washington from Seattle, said:
A divisive and arrogant speech by a man blind to the great number of people who seek for some shared national purpose and goals. He is totally partisan, he acts not as a president of the United States but an appointed mouthpiece of extremists and plutocrats. His speech was totally predictable, as was his stated agenda.
That about sums it up as far as I'm concerned.

Why the hell don't they see that the people who are doing the loyal opposition response to State of the Union Speeches take a few vitamins before going on the air? Pelosi and Daschle—ye gods!—for people in public life who are supposedly used to speaking to crowds and to television cameras, they looked like a couple of beginning broadcasting students trying to read off a teleprompter for the first time, and not doing a very good job of it. The stumbles, the pasted-on smiles, the stilted prose. . . . And a similar speech delivered some time back (last year's SOTU speech?) by Washington State governor Gary Locke had the same amateurish characteristics. I've heard Locke speak a lot, and he's a good, dynamic speaker; but on that occasion, he looked and sounded like he had overdosed on Valium before going on camera. Same thing with the response speeches last night. What gives?

Don Firth


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Subject: RE: BS: Bush and the State of the Union
From: Amos
Date: 21 Jan 04 - 02:05 PM

Maybe Rove decrees they must be drugged if they're high-risk for independent thought, or something...to ensure all goes as planned.

A


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Subject: RE: BS: Bush and the State of the Union
From: Ebbie
Date: 21 Jan 04 - 02:56 PM

Last night on Nightline a former speechwriter for Reagan said that the president's speech was "bi-partisanly partisan". Ted Koppel said, What the HECK does that mean?


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Subject: RE: BS: Bush and the State of the Union
From: SINSULL
Date: 21 Jan 04 - 03:06 PM

Was it my imagination or did Hillary look as if she had sipped one too many banana daquiris before showing up for the speech?

Scary? My god - Candy Rice looked as if she might bite somebody.

And did anyone see Cheney move or even breathe?

Lastly, will someone explain to me why politicians from both sides of the floor were scrambling like teenage groupies for GW's autograph? What an undignified display!


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Subject: RE: BS: Bush and the State of the Union
From: Walking Eagle
Date: 21 Jan 04 - 04:12 PM

Bobert I agree, after we've done a little White House landscaping.


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Subject: RE: BS: Bush and the State of the Union
From: Don Firth
Date: 21 Jan 04 - 04:37 PM

Well, Sinsull, I'm kinda with Hillary on that one. I could have handled the speech a whole lot better if I'd been a little drunk, too.

I did notice a couple of dignified older men in uniform (lots of fruit salad, so they presumably had seen a fair amount of action) who, when Bush made some comment about the military and got a big round of applause for it, sat there glowering. At one point, one of them patted his hands together lightly about three times, but the other one sat there with his arms folded. The expressions on both of their faces were pretty eloquent. Like two old lions being flattered by an obsequious chihuahua.   

Don Firth


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Subject: RE: BS: Bush and the State of the Union
From: GUEST,Johnny in OKC
Date: 21 Jan 04 - 08:24 PM

Re Sen. Kennedy, he was shaking his head
while GWB was talking about weapons of mass
destruction. Probably thinking, "I can't
believe he is using the actual words."

Re Nancy Pelosi, seemed like Night of the Zombies.
I could almost believe they recorded their rebuttal
BEFORE the speech.

I heard Tony Blair in the House last week and
they were giving him holy hell. Why can't we
do that??

Love, Johnny


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Subject: RE: BS: Bush and the State of the Union
From: Ebbie
Date: 21 Jan 04 - 09:02 PM

Kennedy also sat still with a bemused look on his face as the Republicans applauded the prescription bill 'accomplishment'.


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Subject: RE: BS: Bush and the State of the Union
From: dianavan
Date: 21 Jan 04 - 10:05 PM

so - where are all the songs about this pompous yet ignorant little man? Where's Country Joe and The Fish when we need them? Time to start ridiculing this guy right out the door.


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Subject: RE: BS: Bush and the State of the Union
From: Bobert
Date: 21 Jan 04 - 10:15 PM

Good point, dainavan...

Time fir folk singers to lay it on the line...

Hey, it's our duty...

Bobert


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Subject: RE: BS: Bush and the State of the Union
From: GUEST,Johnny in OKC
Date: 21 Jan 04 - 10:15 PM

If laughter is the best medicine,
perhaps it would work as a purgative.

Love, Johnny

PS, above I should have said
"Tony Blair in the House of Commons"

It might have been during Question Time.
Brits, am I getting this right?


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Subject: RE: BS: Bush and the State of the Union
From: GUEST,Ely
Date: 21 Jan 04 - 11:30 PM

We watched a "Matlock" rerun instead, in protest.


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Subject: RE: BS: Bush and the State of the Union
From: katlaughing
Date: 22 Jan 04 - 01:55 AM

According to one of the links at google news, more people watched American Idol than the shrub, plus overall viewers of the SOTU were down 30% from last year. Not that I think American Idol is so much better, but I do think it's kind of funny that it won out over this little pissant.

kat


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Subject: RE: BS: Bush and the State of the Union
From: The Stage Manager
Date: 22 Jan 04 - 11:13 AM

I heard the speech on the BBC World Service, the bedside radio woke me up. It reminded me of nothing so much as those old Soviet Politburo meetings where the leader speaks and everyone applauds dutifully and overlong every 30 seconds or so. It took me a couple of minutes to realise that this was a live broadcast from America and not a recording from the old Eastern block or China. It sounded just the same. Bush seemed to be speaking in the rhythm of totalitarianism. He'll be banging tables with his shoe next.

To me, it seemed Orwellian in more than one way: Pigs, to humans, humans to pigs. The enless war reports and descriptions of hollow/mythical victories.

I heard a BBC report today that said Bush is the best recruiting sergeant Osma bin Laden and Al Quaeda ever had. Funny to think that OBL and AQ gain from having Bush in power. Then they've got time on their side, and are no doubt considering their best moment for future action. After that speech I honestly think they're laughing at him and at America.

SM


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