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BS: On the cowardly nature of GUEST postings

Thomas the Rhymer 03 Jan 04 - 05:19 PM
Murray MacLeod 03 Jan 04 - 05:38 PM
Nigel Parsons 03 Jan 04 - 05:41 PM
Murray MacLeod 03 Jan 04 - 05:49 PM
Nigel Parsons 03 Jan 04 - 05:56 PM
Thomas the Rhymer 03 Jan 04 - 06:06 PM
GUEST,Chongo Chimp 03 Jan 04 - 06:10 PM
Thomas the Rhymer 03 Jan 04 - 06:26 PM
Murray MacLeod 03 Jan 04 - 06:45 PM
GUEST,Chongo Chimp 03 Jan 04 - 06:48 PM
McGrath of Harlow 03 Jan 04 - 06:50 PM
Murray MacLeod 03 Jan 04 - 06:52 PM
Murray MacLeod 03 Jan 04 - 06:54 PM
GUEST,Chongo Chimp 03 Jan 04 - 07:03 PM
Clinton Hammond 03 Jan 04 - 07:08 PM
catspaw49 03 Jan 04 - 07:14 PM
Murray MacLeod 03 Jan 04 - 07:18 PM
McGrath of Harlow 03 Jan 04 - 07:23 PM
Thomas the Rhymer 03 Jan 04 - 08:23 PM
GUEST,Chongo Chimp 03 Jan 04 - 09:16 PM
Thomas the Rhymer 03 Jan 04 - 10:07 PM
GUEST,Martin Gibson 03 Jan 04 - 11:15 PM
Thomas the Rhymer 03 Jan 04 - 11:24 PM
GUEST,Pict 03 Jan 04 - 11:48 PM
Clinton Hammond 03 Jan 04 - 11:56 PM
Thomas the Rhymer 04 Jan 04 - 01:11 AM
GUEST,Russ 04 Jan 04 - 01:16 AM
Dave the Gnome 04 Jan 04 - 05:13 AM
GUEST,Peter from Essex 04 Jan 04 - 08:15 AM
Guessed 04 Jan 04 - 08:18 AM
GUEST,Termagant 04 Jan 04 - 11:57 AM
Peg 04 Jan 04 - 11:58 AM
Little Hawk 04 Jan 04 - 01:05 PM
Amos 04 Jan 04 - 01:38 PM
Thomas the Rhymer 04 Jan 04 - 01:45 PM
McGrath of Harlow 04 Jan 04 - 01:46 PM
Amos 04 Jan 04 - 02:07 PM
akenaton 04 Jan 04 - 02:23 PM
Cluin 04 Jan 04 - 02:39 PM
Amos 04 Jan 04 - 02:43 PM
GUEST,Wolfgang 04 Jan 04 - 03:34 PM
Clinton Hammond 04 Jan 04 - 03:37 PM
Thomas the Rhymer 04 Jan 04 - 03:56 PM
Rick Fielding 04 Jan 04 - 04:12 PM
Clinton Hammond 04 Jan 04 - 04:17 PM
Thomas the Rhymer 04 Jan 04 - 04:33 PM
Peace 04 Jan 04 - 05:18 PM
GUEST,sorefingers 04 Jan 04 - 05:23 PM
Guessed 04 Jan 04 - 05:29 PM
pdq 04 Jan 04 - 05:30 PM
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Subject: BS: On the cowardly nature of GUEST postings
From: Thomas the Rhymer
Date: 03 Jan 04 - 05:19 PM

Conspicular put downs, irritation the craftings
Provocateur frowns, and feast throught the fastings
To grasp at your goat, thus to trip inspirations
Will rock your fine boat, and resist revelations.

These cowards will sneak, these cowards will slight
The anonymous speak, not of love or delight
Surreptitiously vulgar, these vultures attack
And shoot as an orge, the truth in the back

With snappy invective, no research is needed
To disrupt the effective, keeps the hearld unheeded
These guests will respect, only squandering quench
Their thirst but a durst, their truth but a stench

To revel disorder, and ravel remorse
They stradle the border, of an unseemly course
Resenting upstanding, in spirit and kind
This nameless resounding, from bowers that bind...
ttr


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Subject: RE: BS: On the cowardly nature of GUEST postings
From: Murray MacLeod
Date: 03 Jan 04 - 05:38 PM

Have you ever had any of your poetry published, Thomas ?


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Subject: RE: BS: On the cowardly nature of GUEST postings
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 03 Jan 04 - 05:41 PM

This rhyme seems to echo "The Rhymer's" frustration
With Guests posts which are a self-justification
And tho' I approve of his rhyming oration
The 'count' does not match his syllabification

And tho' he condemns them all, roundly, as 'pests'
Their writings are littered with learning and jests
And so, then, no matter how Thomas protests
As hosts we must treat them, politely, as Guests


Nigel


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Subject: RE: BS: On the cowardly nature of GUEST postings
From: Murray MacLeod
Date: 03 Jan 04 - 05:49 PM

Methinks that the Rhymer doth loudly protest
To curry good favour with all of the rest
Who vilify Guests and their interesting posts.
They signify least who bellow the most.

Piece of piss, took me 30 seconds and I didn't even have to make up my own words ...


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Subject: RE: BS: On the cowardly nature of GUEST postings
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 03 Jan 04 - 05:56 PM

Murray:

Which words of mine or TTR's appear 'made up'?

Nigel


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Subject: RE: BS: On the cowardly nature of GUEST postings
From: Thomas the Rhymer
Date: 03 Jan 04 - 06:06 PM

Some genius there is, in a safer place haven
In some of GUEST's biz, not all of it's craven
But neither is mention, of name an abhorrence
Or cause for detention for Arabia's Lawrence

Fault finders rally, for nonsense contagious
And band it all up, for the nameless outrageous
But guts and then pride, will have little to do
With a blindsiding chide, and no name to eschew...
ttr


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Subject: RE: BS: On the cowardly nature of GUEST postings
From: GUEST,Chongo Chimp
Date: 03 Jan 04 - 06:10 PM

Roses are red
Violets are blue
Monkeys stink
And so does your poetry! :-)

Seriously, kiddo. Don't quit your day job quite yet.

Yeah, anonymous messages are like a bad case of fleas. Annoying and hard to trace to their hiding places. But I never met a flea yet that wrote poetry as topheavy as yours, buster. I bet you don't talk to the hatcheck girl that way. It wouldn't get you too far, I can tell you that. She'd probably just say..."What????"...and give you a weird look, then hand back your hat with a sneer and say, "Conspiculate that, Roscoe."

CC


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Subject: RE: BS: On the cowardly nature of GUEST postings
From: Thomas the Rhymer
Date: 03 Jan 04 - 06:26 PM

See what I mean, you impecable boar...
As one critic will glean, another wants no more
But as poet, I know it I'll never make money
For my work when I show it, is but milk and honey

The day job for me is much better than art
And many agree that your music's a fart
So sit there and hate... and love is your loss
Or with me relate, and we'll need us no boss

So flirt with the ladies each in his own way
Or just sit and beratie the things that I say
But cynics are stupid to those who enjoy
The fine eye of cupid... tis all may enjoy!
ttr


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Subject: RE: BS: On the cowardly nature of GUEST postings
From: Murray MacLeod
Date: 03 Jan 04 - 06:45 PM

Nigel,

"orge", "hearld", "stradle", and "durst" leap off the screen.

There may be more, but reading Thomas' "poetry" hurts my brain too much.

And before anybody leaps in to say that "durst" is a participle of the verb "to dare", yes, I do know that, but it has no meaning in Thomas' little oeuvre.


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Subject: RE: BS: On the cowardly nature of GUEST postings
From: GUEST,Chongo Chimp
Date: 03 Jan 04 - 06:48 PM

I gotta admire your vocabulary, Bub, but I still say you need to brush up on the poetry technique. For instance, it's bad form to end the last 2 lines in a poem with the same word..."enjoy". A 5th Grader would know that. You gotta come up with a different word for one of them lines...like "toy" or "boy" or "ploy".

Here's my suggestion:

But cynics are stupid to those who employ
The fine eye of cupid, which all may enjoy!

Betcha didn't think I had it in me, didja? Also, "impeccable" has two "C"'s. Just the the good old USA, only they're in the middle instead of one on each side.

CC


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Subject: RE: BS: On the cowardly nature of GUEST postings
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 03 Jan 04 - 06:50 PM

Now GUESTS with a name can be well worth perusing,
And much that they write is informed or amusing;
But those who insist on declining all handles
Persistently tend to become vicious vandals.
And even when nameless GUESTS write something wise
They soon get confused with the rancorous cries
Of venom exuded by some nameless clone
Who is ready and willing to cast the first stone.

And if you decide to reply to some ghost
It's essential to add date and time of their post,
To avoid the confusion of multiple GUESTS
Who all use the same name, so it gets in a mess.
And the moral of this isn't hard to explain,
It's that manners dictate friendly GUESTS use a name.
Be it ever so fleeting, be it quite evanescent,
A name makes a thread more straightforward and pleasant.

So all GUESTS are welcome, of that there's no question,
So long as they're willing to take that suggestion -
And as for the rest, they just spoil my digestion.


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Subject: RE: BS: On the cowardly nature of GUEST postings
From: Murray MacLeod
Date: 03 Jan 04 - 06:52 PM

Chongo, fer chrissakes don't offer constructive literary criticism, you will only encourage him to grind out some more doggerel ....


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Subject: RE: BS: On the cowardly nature of GUEST postings
From: Murray MacLeod
Date: 03 Jan 04 - 06:54 PM

Trust Kevin to ruin this thread by posting a clever and well written piece....


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Subject: RE: BS: On the cowardly nature of GUEST postings
From: GUEST,Chongo Chimp
Date: 03 Jan 04 - 07:03 PM

Ha! You made me laugh right out loud, Murray. Thanks. I needed that. It's been a tough week.

McGrath, you are dead right. These jerks who can't even be bothered to type any kind of a name to go with their posts need a cold gat stuck in their face once in a while to make 'em sober up and talk straight for a change and show some ID.

And, McGrath...that was good poetry you just did. If another one of my pals buys the Big One, I am gonna call you up to do his epitaph.

CC


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Subject: RE: BS: On the cowardly nature of GUEST postings
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 03 Jan 04 - 07:08 PM

Only people who don't know any better think there's such a thing as internet anonymity...

And well, how is posting as GUEST any different from posting under an obvious nick-name?

TtR just needs something to whine and suck about...

I mean, as I said elsewhere.. it's just the internet...   Why make it seem to be important?

Take only what you want, and leave the rest for someone else...


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Subject: RE: BS: On the cowardly nature of GUEST postings
From: catspaw49
Date: 03 Jan 04 - 07:14 PM

Hey Clinton!   Your shit don't rhyme man!!! Took me a long time to read it 'cause I kept trying to make it rhyme.........

Spaw


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Subject: RE: BS: On the cowardly nature of GUEST postings
From: Murray MacLeod
Date: 03 Jan 04 - 07:18 PM

Clinton's shit rhymes better than Thomas' shit


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Subject: RE: BS: On the cowardly nature of GUEST postings
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 03 Jan 04 - 07:23 PM

That's as may be - but his posts don't.

(In a rhyming thread I think they oughter -
and it makes the posts a whole lot shorter.)


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Subject: RE: BS: On the cowardly nature of GUEST postings
From: Thomas the Rhymer
Date: 03 Jan 04 - 08:23 PM

Clinton's complaining betrays her ambitions
By crassly detaining, she deleats additions
While Murray insists, I'm foul and a headache
And my 'day job' exists, as a last resort mistake

I'f you met me you'd know in a matter of minutes
That the ire you show is a waste to begin with
But you measure all meaning with muscle and might
On an internet seething with alure and a fight.

Take you a gander, and open it uppence
A mindful intender, instead of resentence
Give it a rest all, this slicker sharpshooting
Where is your best call, for worldly rerouting?
ttr


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Subject: RE: BS: On the cowardly nature of GUEST postings
From: GUEST,Chongo Chimp
Date: 03 Jan 04 - 09:16 PM

Who says I'm resentful, ttr? I don't resent you at all, just havin' a little fun. Look, buddy, when your office and your car get blown sky high, your favorite eatery gets blasted to hell, and your friends get rubbed out right and left you don't get mad over some lousy poetry. I'm just gettin' some light entertainment at your expense here is all. You think your stuff is bad? You oughta have heard Big Daddy singin' "Big Rock Candy Mountain" and "Bluetail Fly"! If you had, you would know what's bad...

Now as for Clinton and "her" ambitions...I have seen mug shots of Clinton, ttr. If Clinton is a "she" then I am a bald albino rhesus monkey carrying twin koala bear cubs, and I ain't. Clinton as a "she" would be the biggest shock to the world since seeing Ma Barker in the nude packin' a blazing tommy gun. Such things you don't wanna ever see, not even when you've got the DT's. Trust me.

CC


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Subject: RE: BS: On the cowardly nature of GUEST postings
From: Thomas the Rhymer
Date: 03 Jan 04 - 10:07 PM

Nice try, GUEST... Clinton is probably just a handle for a housewife aspirant who secretly tries on macho... ;^)

All I have to do is PM my password, and anyone can post under my 'handle'... Or then again, anyone can post as a 'named' GUEST anytime...

So, that GUEST on post 20 was probably Clinton, posing as a GUEST... But remember, "Clinton" just a handle...


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Subject: RE: BS: On the cowardly nature of GUEST postings
From: GUEST,Martin Gibson
Date: 03 Jan 04 - 11:15 PM

Worst of all poetry I have ever read, actually.


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Subject: RE: BS: On the cowardly nature of GUEST postings
From: Thomas the Rhymer
Date: 03 Jan 04 - 11:24 PM

Coming from you, martin, I'll take it as a compliment!


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Subject: RE: BS: On the cowardly nature of GUEST postings
From: GUEST,Pict
Date: 03 Jan 04 - 11:48 PM

Oh please stop
your pooh etry is a flop
it really is the crud of the crop
and like ordure rhymes do plop
like so much runny slop
and it's stinking every drop
I think it's time you got the chop
Guests would be glad to lop
sad Thomas the malaprop
a PLOOK that needs to POP.


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Subject: RE: BS: On the cowardly nature of GUEST postings
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 03 Jan 04 - 11:56 PM

Clinton is not just a handle... ask my mom...

Or ask the mudcatter's who've met me...

TtR... it's another example of you being a overwraught spaz... And casting stones from your own glass house...

Oh ya... rhyming poetry sucks...


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Subject: RE: BS: On the cowardly nature of GUEST postings
From: Thomas the Rhymer
Date: 04 Jan 04 - 01:11 AM

That's what makes horse racing... Well then...

Cool, Clinton... I've heard good things 'bout your music... But... do you sing songs that don't rhyme?

Frankly though, I have no preference as to whether my poetry is good or not... I toss together the words within a few spare minutes and I do it for the process... keeps my craft alive... kinda like a writer persues crossword puzzles. Are they really so worthy of comment? My songs, however, are actually constructed with care...

'sbeen fun! ttr


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Subject: RE: BS: On the cowardly nature of GUEST postings
From: GUEST,Russ
Date: 04 Jan 04 - 01:16 AM

As guest bashings go this is way more interesting than the usual.

But it's only January 4.

It's going to be a long year.

Russ (incorrigible GUEST)


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Subject: RE: BS: On the cowardly nature of GUEST postings
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 04 Jan 04 - 05:13 AM

Anyone here a Vogon by any chance?

:D


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Subject: RE: BS: On the cowardly nature of GUEST postings
From: GUEST,Peter from Essex
Date: 04 Jan 04 - 08:15 AM

Of the major folk forums this is the only one I know that permits GUEST postings. People who have a problem with GUEST postings have an easy solution: use a members only forum.


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Subject: RE: BS: On the cowardly nature of GUEST postings
From: Guessed
Date: 04 Jan 04 - 08:18 AM

Who are you calling a coward?


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Subject: RE: BS: On the cowardly nature of GUEST postings
From: GUEST,Termagant
Date: 04 Jan 04 - 11:57 AM

"People who have a problem with GUEST postings have an easy solution: use a members only forum."

While you offer an elegant solution to those who are obviously disturbed by the presence of anonymous forum users Peter, I'm sure you realize the reason so many members use this forum exclusively. They get their daily passive/aggressive fix here. Can you think of any other folk forums where members would be allowed to constantly and routinely attack, belittle, and so persistently harp about a specific group of forum users with impunity?

Dysfunctional passive/aggressive personalities are richly rewarded here. That is why they stay and continue to multiply. No other folk forums on the internet will have them.

As to the "poetry". I wouldn't call it that. I'm voting with the side that says we shouldn't encourage this sort of thing.


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Subject: RE: BS: On the cowardly nature of GUEST postings
From: Peg
Date: 04 Jan 04 - 11:58 AM

Methinks it's amusing and not a little sad,
to spend time perusing and labelling as 'bad'
words that so clearly are meant as a lark,
(an exaltation, say) fuelled by the spark
of a spirit who's generally laid-back and gentle,
(if he were a soup,I think he'd be lentil).


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Subject: RE: BS: On the cowardly nature of GUEST postings
From: Little Hawk
Date: 04 Jan 04 - 01:05 PM

Excellent, Peg! Now we're getting somewhere.

Termagant, you may be right about the passive-aggressive thing...in some cases. If so, this forum is providing a public service to the very people you mention. But I think there's a far simpler explanation. The regulars come here simply because they are already used to coming here, that's all, and they've gotten to know other people here that they enjoy talking to. In my case, this is the only music forum I've ever visited. Period. It's the only forum of any kind I've spent any significant amount of time on. Mostly I enjoy it. I'm blissfully unaware of what it's like on the various other Internet forums, because I haven't been to them. Therefore, any convoluted explanation for the psychological garbage that supposedly resides behind my decision to keep logging onto this forum is mere whistling in the dark.

I have no objection to the idea of a forum that has "Guests". Some people here do. Well, from what you say it sounds like there are any number of other places they could go and be "guest-free", but I guess they are so used to being here that they don't want to.

- LH


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Subject: RE: BS: On the cowardly nature of GUEST postings
From: Amos
Date: 04 Jan 04 - 01:38 PM

Guests as such are generally welcome throughout Mudcatland, when they are civil.

It is anonymous hatred and its various derivative forms (sniping, vituperation, carping, criticism, generalization of badness, etc ad nauseam) which are not.


A


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Subject: RE: BS: On the cowardly nature of GUEST postings
From: Thomas the Rhymer
Date: 04 Jan 04 - 01:45 PM

A goof and a lark, and at little expense
In minutes but few, of brain I'm just dense
And sad yes it is, that the legions are many
Who burn up the bridge, and set fires a'plenty

So who on a lark can let on in expression
That biters will bark, and live for digression
Without stirring about, the essential confusion
That is living in doubt, and enjoys the illusion
ttr


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Subject: RE: BS: On the cowardly nature of GUEST postings
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 04 Jan 04 - 01:46 PM

I suggest,
member or GUEST,
that this one time,
it might be best
to stick to rhyme -
give prose a rest.


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Subject: RE: BS: On the cowardly nature of GUEST postings
From: Amos
Date: 04 Jan 04 - 02:07 PM

Dear Lord, protect us from chicanery,
From idle snipers, and inanery
From those who choose to spend their time
Concocting reams of tepid rhyme;
But most of all, from those who would
Pervert a forum meant for good,
And thus corrupt our faint divinity
With foulness cloaked in anonymity!



Amen


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Subject: RE: BS: On the cowardly nature of GUEST postings
From: akenaton
Date: 04 Jan 04 - 02:23 PM

Amos...Your more of a poet than a phylosopher.


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Subject: RE: BS: On the cowardly nature of GUEST postings
From: Cluin
Date: 04 Jan 04 - 02:39 PM

Nothing has changed at all.


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Subject: RE: BS: On the cowardly nature of GUEST postings
From: Amos
Date: 04 Jan 04 - 02:43 PM

Great line, there, Cluin!


A


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Subject: RE: BS: On the cowardly nature of GUEST postings
From: GUEST,Wolfgang
Date: 04 Jan 04 - 03:34 PM

Just to help Spaw, I repost Clinton's poem with the line breaks added at the proper places and one obviously missing word inserted:

Only people who don't know any bet-
ter think there's such a thing as internet
anonymity...And well, how is posting
as GUEST any different from posting
under an obvious nick-name? TtR just needs
something to whine and suck about...I mean,
as I said elsewhere.. it's just the internet...
Why make it seem to be important? Take
only what you want, and
leave the rest for someone elses hand).

with a tiny bit more of extra effort, Clinton,...

Wolfgang


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Subject: RE: BS: On the cowardly nature of GUEST postings
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 04 Jan 04 - 03:37 PM

WG... ya gotta get a life eh....

;-)


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Subject: RE: BS: On the cowardly nature of GUEST postings
From: Thomas the Rhymer
Date: 04 Jan 04 - 03:56 PM

In other words, the bully pulpit that unaccountability on the net offers to the cronicly stupid is far more destructive than we are willing to acknowledge. I rhyme for fun, and I couldn't care less what it means to you. I appear gentle, because kicking the shite out of people just makes more trouble than it's worth, and does not inspire true genius... only reactive BS... which is about as valuable in the long run as a good spit in the wind. If it's your manhood that you are asserting here, well then... I'll take reality any day to this cyber-not atropy... this macho nonsense proves nothing but it's own negation.... unless you come around to the obvious point that... it is way more manly to create compassion and be real... Yes, even here on the net, where no one knows your true weaknesses...


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Subject: RE: BS: On the cowardly nature of GUEST postings
From: Rick Fielding
Date: 04 Jan 04 - 04:12 PM

I WAS gonna write sumthin' but the picture in my mind of Clinton as a female has put me off my feed.

rick


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Subject: RE: BS: On the cowardly nature of GUEST postings
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 04 Jan 04 - 04:17 PM

"does not inspire true genius"

Like you'd know anything about it....

" it is way more manly to create compassion and be real..."

When has reality ever been anything even close to compassionate?

The point is, if ya don't like guests, get off Mudcat...


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Subject: RE: BS: On the cowardly nature of GUEST postings
From: Thomas the Rhymer
Date: 04 Jan 04 - 04:33 PM

This forum ain't big enough for the two of us... get out of town before sunrise tomorrow, or you are gonna be pushin up daisys... ;^)

Yeh, you're right Clinton... I don't know anything about it... I just get lucky sometimes and do it... and so do you. If you don't inspire people, then what do you do? ...lead the league in penalties?

I do enjoy the guests sometimes... but flamers don't make this place excellent... or even interesting...

WOW! Seattle Seahawks just got kicked out of the playoffs by a headful of dreads! Oh well maybe next year!


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Subject: RE: BS: On the cowardly nature of GUEST postings
From: Peace
Date: 04 Jan 04 - 05:18 PM

Calling a sheep a dog will not make it bark. (I have no idea what it means, but it seemed to fit.)


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Subject: RE: BS: On the cowardly nature of GUEST postings
From: GUEST,sorefingers
Date: 04 Jan 04 - 05:23 PM

"Dysfunctional passive/aggressive personalities are richly rewarded here. That is why they stay and continue to multiply. No other folk forums on the internet will have them."

Please post the URLs


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Subject: RE: BS: On the cowardly nature of GUEST postings
From: Guessed
Date: 04 Jan 04 - 05:29 PM

Calling a dance a "strip the willow" won't make it bark either. But it might make it enjoyable.

if you want an open system you have to accept the crud. If you want a closed system "include me out".

There is a long and well documented tradion (that makes it folk) of a certain perentage of the populace being misanthropic. They basically don't like themselves too much but love themselves too much. So they belittle those who seem to accept themselves warts and all. That way they feel a little more likeable by comparison. They are wrong.


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Subject: RE: BS: On the cowardly nature of GUEST postings
From: pdq
Date: 04 Jan 04 - 05:30 PM

This will never be called Mudcat's finest hour.


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