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Subject: RE: BS: Witches! Good and Bad?
From: Janie
Date: 12 Oct 09 - 10:47 PM

Dadgum. I shoulda added '100' to that last post.


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Subject: RE: BS: Witches! Good and Bad?
From: Peace
Date: 12 Oct 09 - 11:26 PM

I prefer Timex, tell ya the truth. They are inexpensive and they also keep good time. I'd likely want a Rolex were I to be space travelling, but for normal every-day 'could you tell me the time' kinda stuff, Timex is the one.


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Subject: RE: BS: Witches! Good and Bad?
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 13 Oct 09 - 03:19 AM

I meant a good priest.


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Subject: RE: BS: Witches! Good and Bad?
From: Bryn Pugh
Date: 13 Oct 09 - 04:29 AM

Eight words the Wiccan Rede fulfil-
An it harm none, do what ye will.

So mote it be.


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Subject: RE: BS: Witches! Good and Bad?
From: Gervase
Date: 13 Oct 09 - 04:33 AM

Why does the 'rede' use archaic King James-style English when it was written in the 20th century?


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Subject: RE: BS: Witches! Good and Bad?
From: Crow Sister (off with the fairies)
Date: 13 Oct 09 - 05:04 AM

Oh, how completely coincidental!
A brand new mystery guest has resurrected an old debate about witches, right after a brand new member creates one on Bible prophesy.
Must surely be a 'Sign' of something..


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Subject: RE: BS: Witches! Good and Bad?
From: olddude
Date: 13 Oct 09 - 07:52 AM

a thread that resurfaced to pit good people against good people. to my pagan friends ... blessing to all of you


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Subject: RE: BS: Witches! Good and Bad?
From: SINSULL
Date: 13 Oct 09 - 08:09 AM

In Nigeria and the Congo, the torturing and murder of child witches is on the rise. All it takes is for someone to accuse and a child can be driven from his home, have nails driven into his head or be set afire to drive out the evil spirits. It seems incredible but there have been recent cases in ther States as well involving immigrants from the Caribbean.
Unusual birthmarks, misbehaving, epilepsy - all proof of witchcraft.
GOOGLE child witches for more info.


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Subject: RE: BS: Witches! Good and Bad?
From: Becca72
Date: 13 Oct 09 - 09:01 AM

Having just read the recently refreshed Monty Python quote thread, all I can think of to contribute is...

She turned me into a newt!






I got better.


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Subject: RE: BS: Witches! Good and Bad?
From: Jack Blandiver
Date: 13 Oct 09 - 09:37 AM

An it harm none, do what ye will.

Crowley-lite.


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Subject: RE: BS: Witches! Good and Bad?
From: SINSULL
Date: 13 Oct 09 - 02:26 PM

Is that like Kendall saying "...as long as it doesn't scare the horses."?


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Subject: RE: BS: Witches! Good and Bad?
From: VirginiaTam
Date: 13 Oct 09 - 03:05 PM

There are children abused and murdered in the UK as well under the pretense of exorcising demons. The abuse and murder of 8 year old Victoria Climbie set the "Every Child Matters" wheel in motion.

What little I have been exposed to of Wicca (my younger daughter was practising for a short time) seems good.

I still want the bumper sticker that says

"Walk The Paths Of The Ancients" and "My other car is a broom"


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Subject: RE: BS: Witches! Good and Bad?
From: Crow Sister (off with the fairies)
Date: 13 Oct 09 - 03:34 PM

I don't quite know why Gardner ever spoke of Wicca as 'witchcraft'. Modern Wicca is a syncretic modern Nature revering religion in it's own right, and has more to do with Masonic ritual structure and indeed Crowley's visionary materials (as SO'P comments imply) than any nightmarish fantasy, that the Mediaeval Church generated from it's guilt consumed fanatical repression of all things natural - and natural consequent collective psychosis - as "witchcraft".

Yes, there were (and are in all cultures) folk magical practices usually focused upon the basics of life (love, sex, hurting people, healing people, protecting people, fertility... etc.). But the cunning folk who provided such lay services to the community, would have considered themselves Christian. And along with knowledge of simples and traditional folklore pertaining to talismanic natural objects - as well as likely experiential knowledge of hallucinogens, they very often called upon the various powers of the Christian Saints to intervene on their customers behalf.


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Subject: RE: BS: Witches! Good and Bad?
From: Diva
Date: 13 Oct 09 - 03:56 PM

Virginia T.....read what Sins said.......it is part of that culture...sadly......


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Subject: RE: BS: Witches! Good and Bad?
From: Crow Sister (off with the fairies)
Date: 13 Oct 09 - 04:02 PM

Ahh, as to practices outside the UK.
I don't know if this is 'witchcraft' in the same terms as the Western Christian fantasy.. But I did speak to a woman who left South Africa in large part, because of the danger some years ago to young blond male children from some 'witch-doctors' who considered the genitals of same, to be very magically potent ..and thus worth murdering blue-eyed blond male children for.


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Subject: RE: BS: Witches! Good and Bad?
From: Micca
Date: 13 Oct 09 - 04:03 PM

Why do Pagans wear Black?


Because they don't make anything darker.......Yet!


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Subject: RE: BS: Witches! Good and Bad?
From: GUEST,Captain Pugwash
Date: 13 Oct 09 - 07:06 PM

I like witches, they're cool.

There are good and bad people so it follows there are good and bad witches, right? You would have to get to know them to really find out.


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Subject: RE: BS: Witches! Good and Bad?
From: Hollowfox
Date: 13 Oct 09 - 08:08 PM

The answer is yes, same as any other group of people. I've always found it amusing to substitute some other group in a question like this one, just to see how it hold up. Lithuanians or Persbyterians as substitutes usually bring on a chuckle, or stop the questioner in their tracks, at least in my neighborhood (not many of either, I guess, so they sound exotic.)


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Subject: RE: BS: Witches! Good and Bad?
From: VirginiaTam
Date: 14 Oct 09 - 12:55 PM

ana:l nathrakh, u:rth va:s bethud, dokhje:l djenve:

just a friendly curse

have a nice day


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Subject: RE: BS: Witches! Good and Bad?
From: kendall
Date: 14 Oct 09 - 07:53 PM

Is it true that Witches believe that God and nature are one and the same? If so, then I'm a witch.


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Subject: RE: BS: Witches! Good and Bad?
From: Don(Wyziwyg)T
Date: 15 Oct 09 - 03:15 PM

""YES!""

Don T.


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Subject: RE: BS: Witches! Good and Bad?
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 15 Oct 09 - 03:53 PM

Civilisation and education enable us to rise above our nature and even nature.


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Subject: RE: BS: Witches! Good and Bad?
From: The Vulgar Boatman
Date: 15 Oct 09 - 06:39 PM

And when they enable us to live without lawyers, Richard, I'll believe you...


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Subject: RE: BS: Witches! Good and Bad?
From: kendall
Date: 18 Oct 09 - 05:14 PM

"Nature, Mr. Allnut, is wht we are put on this earth to rise above."
Katherine Hepburn. The African Queen.


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