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GUEST,Mr Bilderberg 27 May 03 - 12:12 PM
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Subject: BS: New World Order
From: GUEST,Mr Bilderberg
Date: 27 May 03 - 12:12 PM

THE NEW WORLD ORDER:
A Planned Third World War, a New Age, and a Global Superstate.

ABOUT THE NEW WORLD ORDER:
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0910311641/mastersearchhome

A Third World War is about to start. It has been planned for many years by an elite fraternity who gather their members among the secret societies and the corporate elite. It will be unlike the previous two planned world wars in that it will be fought on many fronts, as well as on a paramilitary front.

Those who understand the New World Order - and those behind it - will have recognised the early warning signs of the planned global conflict and the series of manmade plagues that are about to sweep the world.

Conflict is being generated. It is being used to sieze NWO-hostile territory and the Earth's resources, control of which will be vital to the new global superstate. The warnings were in the Afghanistan oil war. They were in the Iraq oil war. They will be in the Syria, Iran, Libya and Saudi Arabia oil wars that those who understand the New World Order have long been predicting:

http://www.thedebate.org/thedebate/who_next.asp


The warnings are in the tensions that are methodically being increased in the Middle East and the Far East. Western corporations and corporate-controled governments have long been funding and arming Israel, while funding and arming opponents of Israel, like Iraq, Iran and Saudi Arabia. Western governments even funded and armed Islamic terrorist training camps in Afghanistan, which helped give birth to Osama bin Laden's al-Qaeda madness. (It is interesting to note that Osama's family have close business ties to the Bush administration).

The warnings are also in the mysterious and suspicious outbreak of a SARS-causing virus, which is being encouraged to sweep the globe. This will be the first of several "natural", "accidental" and "terrorist related" disease outbreaks. The real target of these carefully orchestrated outbreaks is not the population of the Far East. The target is the global economy and particularly the Western economy. These diseases are perfect for generating the panic and financial chaos that are prescribed by the New World Order. This will become apparent in due course.

Some anticipate that diseases like smallpox, plague and ebola could be released in the coming months and years, apparently in response to world affairs; as a result of accidental outbreaks and terrorist atrocities.

SURVIVING BIOTERROR:
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0971546908/mastersearchhome


Preparedness and the Truth may be our only weapons in the fight against the New World Order.

The majority of people, who will naturally regard the New World Order concept as entertaining nonsense, should realise that regardless of the NWO biological catastrophe is a very real and imminent threat. Everybody should consider making preparations for biological and other major catastrophes - and also prepare others. You should also educate yourself about the New World Order. And Educate others.

(A UK-based terrorism information page has been authorised by the AIG):
http://www.thedebate.org/terrorism.asp


Predictions made by opponents of the New World Order were not prophecy. They were simply conclusions derived by comparing known objectives of the New World Order movement to their known plans and to current affairs - and thereby estimating their next moves. Anybody can do this with some understanding of the New World Order but error and disinformation are a danger.


The New World Order itself is the vision of a single global superstate with no borders and a single totalitarian government.

The New World Order movement can be divided into a Political Component and a Religious component. This is where the New World Order gets so strange that few people can accept it.


The Political Component of the New World Order:
The aim of most proponents is a world in which mankind will live in eternal peace. Erasing national and social boundaries, and eventually even money for most people, will, they believe, rid the world of evil. This is based on the Masonic and ancient Egyptian principle of Maat.

The Religious Component of the New World Order:
There is also a fringe quasi-religious element involved. They believe that the changes which will both enable and announce the New World Order are religious signs. Some believe that they have a role to play in bringing about the prophecies within the book of Revelations, which many people believe describes the return of Christ followed by the end of the world as we know it. This, they believe, is God's will - and as such it is their duty to assist. The result would be the anihilation of one third of mankind, as well as various other catastrophes.

There is also a large and growing component that regards the fruition of the New World Order plan as the coming of a New Age, the Aquarian Age. This is an occult view reflected in the beliefs of many occult and secret societies, as well as the broader New Age movement. (Essentially the belief is that every 2000 years or so a new age dawns. The age of the Fish - the Christian or Common Era - is drawing to a close and the Aquarian age is about to begin. The shift from one age to another is traditionally accompanied by massive, usually apocolyptic events.)


It is wrong to give the New World Order elite a name, like the Bilderberg Group or the Illuminati. It is wrong to say that the Jews or the Freemasons, or the banks, or the oil companies, the legal system, or the intelligence agencies are behind the New World Order movement. Many illuminists, jews, freemasons and bankers have been and will be the victims of the events that will bring about the New World Order. This is apparent in the murder of innocent Jews in Israel and the slaughter of hundreds of bankers in the September 11 attacks. The vast, overwhelming majority of initiates, jews, masons and bankers are not even aware of the New World Order movement. The movement is a large, complex and ever-shifting sum of the constituent organisations and individuals involved. Most individuals - and large sections of the groups involved - have little or no knowledge of the New World Order. (This can be likened to the social structure of a beehive, or to the "need to know" policy of a single military/intelligence organisation).

Elements within the Bilderberg group and some members of the secret societies (like the Freemasons and the Illuminati) are associated with the New World Order and use these organisations to further the cause. But these organisations are merely symptoms, appendages, or tools of the movement. Many Bilderberg Group members are unaware that they are playing a role in globalisation or that globalisation is the foundation of the New World Order. Certainly the vast majority of Freemasons and Oil/Banking employees are completely unaware of the New World Order movement, even if some of their activities are part of the overall plan.

The New World Order movement is like machine, in which each component has its role; sharing the values and aspirations of the Whole, while its Members remain largely ignorant of the plan in its entirity - with the exception of an ultra-elite group whose qualifications - often family heredity - have made them key players. These are often members of powerful families such as Rockefeller, Rothschilde, Bloomberg, Saint Clair (also "De St Clair" and "Sinclair") and others, whose success in the banking, oil and media sectors can be attributed to the New World Order and its affiliated organisations. (It is fascinating to examine the links that organisations such as NBC news - based in Rockefeller Plaza, Exxon/Esso (the world's largest oil corporation), the Bank of America and others have with these elite families!)

For hundreds of years their oaths of loyalty have enabled the secret societies to infiltrate and dominate the legal system. (London's legal system is based in London's Knights Templar preceptory - just of Fleet Street):
http://www.innertemple.org.uk/
(It is no coincidence that Britain's media industry was nurtured there too).


The domination of the banking and financial world by the Secret Societies can be traced back to the Knights Templar, who founded modern international banking.

The Templars have obvious links with the Secret Societies that they founded. Freemasonry denies this even though their structure, their rituals, the names of some of their senior degrees and their nativity are blatantly Templar and riddled with references to the Templars. The Templars founded Freemasonry at Rosslyn Chappel in scotland, when the "illuminist" Templar family of St Clair passed some of their arcane Mystical knowledge to medieval stone masons):
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1559701269/mastersearchhome


The "Zionist" interests and roles of modern New World Order proponents can be traced back to the Crusades. America's pro-Israeli foreign policy is a two-edged sword. It is symptomatic of the intense spiritual and historic importance of the Holy Land to the New World Order movement. It is also helping to stoke up tension that will eventually be made to erupt into a catastrophic "Biblical-style" global conflict.

Current affairs are being engineered in a complex way by powerful individuals everywhere.

The World arena is not a black and white stage where good and evil battle it out. There are complex nuances to consider.

For example, the New World Order movement is most obvious in America's incumbent government, the Bush administration.

America's policy of globalisation constantly creeps into new regions, cultivating the global empire while the UN and the EU also grow larger. The direction is established and the objective is becoming clear. A single global superstate with one world government - a totalitarian military dictatorship. It is interesting to note the illuminist symbols used by the American government. The five-pointed American star is actually a pentagram - a fact illustrated by the Pentagon - America's military headquarters. It's shape is defined by the intersecting arms of a pentacle star. The Star of David/Solomon - symbol of Zionism - is also apparent in the pattern of stars above the eagle's head on the America's Great Seal. (The eagle is in fact a phoenix). Most infamous of all is the blazing eye in a triangle. Freemasons deny that this is a Masonic symbol but it is gregarious in their art and can be seen in an Grand Lodge).

At the same time there are Islamic extremists at high levels within the al-Qaeda and other terrorist organisations with identical goals. There are also Arabs with Gnostic beliefs linked to both Judaism and Christianity. They are not Zionists. But like the Zionists and the Christians (and their respective components in the New World Order movement) they have interests in the Holy Land that date back to the birth of their beliefs. An excellent example is the Mandeans. These are a secretive, essentially Arab group living in Iraq, where civilisation began. Mandean traditions are almost identical to those of Western Freemasonry - right down to their recognition systems and "secret handshakes". There is a wealth of information about Mandeans and other NWO-related groups on the internet (beware of misinformation!). Here is some information about the Mandeans:
http://www.gnosis.org/~gnosis/mandean.america.html

The New World Order movement is responsible for the funding and arming of Israel. It is also responsible for the arming of anti-Israeli Arab nations like Iraq and Syria with weapons including chemical and biological agents. It is behind pro-Israel Jewish Zionist extremism and it was behind the anti-Jewish extremism of Nazi Germany.

The ordinary people: Jews, Arabs and Christians, are united in that they are all victims of the New World Order.

Historically the New World Order movement has been involved with conflicting factions on either side in order to achieve instability that is required for changes on a global scale. (Similarly, members of Secret Societies might compete in business, losing $millions to one another - yet they will share a friendly drink with competitors who are members of their Masonic Lodge.)

The New World Order movement is as extensive as it is powerful. Despite the best efforts of the Acheson Intelligence Group and other organisations opposed to dangerous effects of the movement, The New World Order has proved to be unstoppable. They will get away with it. Most people will even praise and thank them as they impose martial law and other drastic changes - in apparent response to emerging disasters and instability that in fact they engineered purposefully.

We therefore urge you to learn about the New World Order because the truth is important.

We also urge you to learn about biological terrorism and to prepare for massive but unspecified disasters by stockpiling food, water and other essentials.

As usual, we cannot give firm dates for these events. But we can assure you that the process is in motion and it will effect you, wherever you are. Even if you innocently support the New Age, (as many pagans do), you are at risk from the changes that will result.


LINKS:

http://newworldorder.hpage.net/
Contains some useful New World Order background info

http://www.thedebate.org/
World War Oil - a political/corporate perspective

http://www.cuttingedge.org/
New World Order - a religious perspective:


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Subject: RE: BS: New World Order
From: GUEST
Date: 27 May 03 - 12:36 PM

Thanks, Mr. B. That's quite a mouthful. Lots of information. Thanks for making the effort. Yeah, we're in trouble.


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Subject: RE: BS: New World Order
From: GUEST,amergin
Date: 27 May 03 - 12:46 PM

well it must be true...they're in books... *rolls eyes*


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Subject: RE: BS: New World Order
From: Little Hawk
Date: 27 May 03 - 12:49 PM

As you say...

"The ordinary people: Jews, Arabs and Christians, are united in that they are all victims of the New World Order."

Absolutely correct. Divide and conquer is the technique used to befuddle ordinary people everywhere. Unfortunately, it usually works all too well. "You can always get one half of the poor to kill the other half for you" (approximate quote from Gangs of New York)

- LH


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Subject: RE: BS: New World Order
From: Wolfgang
Date: 27 May 03 - 12:55 PM

Illuminati: The new world order

a new phantasy game from Steve Jackson Games.

Wolfgang


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Subject: RE: BS: New World Order
From: DougR
Date: 27 May 03 - 04:43 PM

Yep, folks, no doubt about it, as Chicken Little said, "The sky is falling!"

DougR


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Subject: RE: BS: New World Order
From: Sam L
Date: 27 May 03 - 06:09 PM

Chicken Little was misquoted. She said This guy is falling. Then a guy fell on her.


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Subject: RE: BS: New World Order
From: Little Hawk
Date: 27 May 03 - 06:33 PM

That's it, Fred! I'm surprised no one else noticed that before. Chicken Little has been misquoted all these years by Conservatives and opponents of conspiracy theories everywhere, and it's a bloody disgrace! In fact, I believe it's a deliberate conspiracy.

- LH


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Subject: G8 - Illegal World Government
From: GUEST,G8
Date: 28 May 03 - 03:59 AM

The ridiculout thing about the New World Order is that millions of people are aware of it and yet the media refuses to acknowledge their concerns.

Thousands of protesters will descend on the French town of Evian this weekend, where the G8 summit will be held. (These Bilderberg-linked summits are usually held in properties owned or "formerly" owned by the Knights Templar).

These people are very angry.
What are the protests about?

G8!

What is G8? (Good question! What gives them the right to govern the world?)

G8 is an illegally formed world government - an unelected alliance that is the precursor to the One World Government of the New World Order. The decisions made by G8 govern our lives yet we are not allowed any involvement.

The leaders of the world's elite G8 nations meet to shape world affairs without no democratic mandate. Real people have no say in who attends or what is discussed.

Examine the coverage of the Evian protests. This is a major issue! It is big news! Why are these people demonstrating? Why will nobody actually explain these people's grievances in detail? Where is the full unbiased media coverage? Where is the mention of the "New World Order" that these activists are so concerned about?

This is modern "democracy" in action. The whole democratic process is an illusion. Whoever you vote for they are funded and controlled by the same elite powerbrokers. Public "debate" is confined within an acceptable spectrum of topics. The real issues are often witheld from public scrutiny altogether. The real decisions are made in secret behind closed doors at conferences attended by very wealthy unelected people. This is the approach to the New World Order.


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Subject: RE: BS: New World Order
From: Teribus
Date: 28 May 03 - 04:12 AM

Guest Mr. Bilderberg; Guest 27.05.03 - 12:46PM & Guest G8 28.05.03 - 03:59AM

Hi there Dreaded - hilarious as ever - liked the injection of SARS into your ever more convoluted "conspiracy".


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Subject: RE: BS: New World Order
From: Forum Lurker
Date: 28 May 03 - 09:03 AM

The thing is, large-scale conflict and pandemic disease are incredibly inimical to any such New World Order. Elites thrive on stability and apathy, not disorder and violence. The rich are always the first targets whenever any violent social disturbance occurs.


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Subject: RE: BS: New World Order
From: Gervase
Date: 28 May 03 - 09:03 AM


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Subject: RE: BS: New World Order
From: Peter T.
Date: 28 May 03 - 09:05 AM

But will they poison the water at Evian (that's a joke for you sophisticated bottled water drinkers out there)? yours, Peter T.


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Subject: RE: BS: New World Order
From: Gervase
Date: 28 May 03 - 09:09 AM

Oops, spluttering all over the keyboard made me post prematurely (as it were!)
I could go along with some of the guff about a New World Order if it didn't suddenly take a wrong left at Newport Pagnell and bring in the Knights Templar and such like. For heaven's sake - large organisations are finding it difficult enough showing joined-up thinking at the best of times, without having to do everything to a template laid down at the time of the Albigensian heresy, endorsed by a few anti-Popes on the way.
Globalisation, for want of a better word, could be perceived as a threat, if carried out the wrong way (unlike, say, the globalisation embodied by UNICEF), but loonies like the poster above do us all a disservice. Go back to your bunkers in Montana and prepare for Armageddon (but don't forget to turn the lights out, poppet).


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Subject: Large Scale Conflict & Epidemics
From: GUEST,Illuminist of the Inner Temple
Date: 28 May 03 - 09:17 AM

Actually large-scale conflicts, epidmics and other disasters are the bread and butter of the elite. We are not talking about people with a few million in the bank here. We are talking about a small, ultra-elite group of men who own corporations and property worth $billions. We are talking about people like Bloomberg, Rockefeller, Rothschilde, Bush and the other leading financial, media, oil and banking magnates.

These people do not lose money as a result of conflict and disaster.


They make $billions by selling weapons, often to both sides.

They make $billions selling pharmaceutical products (and biological weapons).

They make $billions by using their inside knowledge of business and government to make investment decisions that would be impossible for people outside of their elite microcommunity.

They make $billions by siezing the assets of enemies that they create and provoke. They fight their battles using taxpayers' money.

They make $billions selling newspapers, books and advertising space boosted by catastrophes. The attacks of September 11 were an extremely profitable time for those who knew when and where to invest in the media, as the world hungered for information.


Make no mistake: the elite cannot lose because they can manipulate world affairs to their advantage.


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Subject: RE: BS: New World Order
From: GUEST
Date: 28 May 03 - 10:34 AM

Order out of Chaos...isn't that the motto of the Illuminati? We are pitted against each other nationally, religiously, racially and sexually so that we can be sold goods, wars and politicians. The NWO DOES thrive on chaos. The Rothschild Formula calls for building a weak nation up to military parity with its neighbor, then selling both sides arms during the resulting conflict. That's what the Bushes Carlyle Group is all about. They have offices in Tehran right now, selling arms, while the conflict of interest in the White House prepares to throw another contract their way with an Iranian war. We are under the leadership of organized criminals. That's all the NWO is. Some of you just don't have the guts to face up to it.


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Subject: RE: BS: New World Order
From: Gervase
Date: 28 May 03 - 11:15 AM

...or the drug habit, it would seem.


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Subject: Templars & The New World Order
From: GUEST,Knight of the East
Date: 28 May 03 - 11:25 AM

There are a number of Templar Masonic and neo-Templar organisations who do indeed try to "to do everything to a template laid down at the time of the Albigensian heresy" as you put it Gervase. Indeed they take the preservation of their "template" very very seriously indeed.

Officially the Templars ceased to exist in 1307, when the Roman church officially disbanded them. But clearly Templar organisations still exist even if some of them might find it hard to prove their pedigree.

The Templars don't exist? Perhaps you should tell them that!

http://www.templars.org.uk/
The Grand Priory of Knights Templar in England and Wales.

http://www.knightstemplar.org/
American Templars

Masonic Templar magazine:
http://www.templarhistory.com/fv2n1.html

Templars & Freemasons:
http://www.kt-scotland.fsnet.co.uk/

And that is just a small selection of Templar and Neo-Templar Orders. There are also many quasi-Templar and Masonic Templar organisations, notably the Golden Dawn, the Rosicrucians and the Ordo Templi Orientis.

The original Templars stood accused of practicing mysterious occult initiation rituals picked up in the Middle East. Some of the Order's leaders were burned as witches but the vast majority of Templars escaped with almost all of their wealth.

Their arcane teachings became the basis of Freemasonry. Freemasons deny this despite blatantly Templar traditions and terminology in the Masonic Craft. (Freemasonry is based around the Temple of Solomon and uses the word Templar in many of its rituals! Why do they deny their obvious Templar roots? What have they got to hide?)

The Templars founded international banking. Their global financial and trade infrastructure gave birth to modern banking as well as the International Monetary Fund (IMF), the World Bank and other international banking institutions. The Templars were the creditors of Kings and the bankers of nations.

Many merchants, nobles and indeed whole countries relied heavily on the Templars for trade. Sympathisers, friends, supporters and allies of the Templars were everywhere.Addidionally, the Templars were the most powerful military order of their time.

It is therefore hardly surprising that many Templars merely shed their military past and went underground, often becoming merchants and bankers themselves.

Make no mistake: the Templar legacy is very much alive today and its influence on current affairs should not be underestimated.

Globalisation and capitalism are just the tip of the Templar Masonic iceberg. The New World Order blueprint is their real legacy.


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Subject: RE: BS: New World Order
From: Forum Lurker
Date: 28 May 03 - 11:33 AM

Small-scale chaos might feed the elite, but the sorts of things you're talking about, like pandemic disease, offer no safe shore from which to play both ends.


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Subject: RE: BS: New World Order
From: Gervase
Date: 28 May 03 - 11:48 AM

No-one doubts the existence of the Templars. I don't doubt the existence of the Morris Ring either, but to suggest that either has a major role to play in world affairs is stretching credibility just a tad.
As for trying to drag in the Golden Dawn. Bloomin' heck, you might as well cite Madame Blavatsky as a member of the New World Order. There's enough wrong with the government of the USA without dragging a pile of horsefeathers like the Templar/Rosicrucian/Grail/Blood Libel bollox.


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Subject: RE: BS: New World Order
From: Ebbie
Date: 28 May 03 - 12:09 PM

Yep. Dreaded Guest is definitely a sophomore in high school.


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Subject: RE: BS: New World Order
From: GUEST
Date: 28 May 03 - 12:14 PM

But the people in the US govt are the SERVANTS of these organizations. Diplomatic speech is almost a science. 'Cautious optimism' is a big deal in diplomatic speech. So why does GWBush pepper a speech with the word 'sacrifice' a half-dozen times? The wealth of the world being concentrated in the hands of fewer and fewer people over the centuries has led to a perverted method of rulership. The people in charge have bunkers they can run to, so they couldn't care less what goes wrong topside. Do a search for 'shadow government'...they're even institutionlizing their bunker mentality and passing the bill on to you.


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Subject: RE: BS: New World Order
From: GUEST
Date: 28 May 03 - 12:16 PM

oh...you're playing guessing game again. And badly, as usual. Look at the guy's links, Ebbie. You might learn something.


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Subject: RE: BS: New World Order
From: Little Hawk
Date: 28 May 03 - 12:17 PM

The situation is usually neither as bad as the doomsayers insist nor as good as the naysayers insist, but it is bad.

Denial is the customary retreat of the conventional, the comfortable, the complacent, and the skeptical. Since the situation, as I said, is not as bad as the doomsayers say it is, however, those in denial may remain comfortably oblivious to their slave status for a long time to come...maybe even for their whole lives.

They say ignorance is bliss. I guess it is for many. Well, time to go to the mall and buy more stuff! Or...why not just plunk down in front of the TV and watch another episode of "Survivor"...Mr Bird-in-a-cage.

- LH


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Subject: Masonic American Government
From: GUEST,Masonic States of America
Date: 28 May 03 - 12:26 PM

The American government is and always has been a Masonic government. This is not "horsefeathers".

There is a network of Secret Societies who play a major role American and global affairs.

The Great Seal appears on the US 1 Dollar bill, along with its PHOENIX-Eagle, disguised as an Eagle, a STAR OF DAVID, a pyramid & the Eye of Isis in a triangle – all clearly Egyptian & Masonic symbols as a visit to any Grand Lodge will quickly confirm.

Note the Star of David:
http://www.state.gov/images/bigeagle.gif

This is not surprising. The Founding Fathers of America, as well as George Washington and many other American Presidents were steeped in Masonic tradition.

George Washington Masonic Memorial:
http://www.gwashington.org/Collections/TheMastersCarpet.htm


http://lcweb.loc.gov/

This Government website clearly shows MASONIC symbolism in the building of the Masonic Capitol Building.

http://lcweb.loc.gov/exhibits/us.capitol/seventy.jpg

WASHINGTON & THE OTHERS ALL HAVE FULL MASONIC REGALIA INCLUDING APRON. SOME EVEN HOLD MASONIC SYMBOLS: SQUARE, COMPASS, GAVEL...

Masonic Hurdle:
http://www.gwashington.org/Collections/Washington_Albion_Hurdle.htm

Masonic Apron:
http://www.gwashington.org/Collections/schuyler_apron.htm


Every Masonic lodge has a LEWIS:

http://www.freemasonry.bcy.ca/Writings/gmd1999/tb19.html

a suspended stone block just like the one depicted at he Capitol buildng. Sometimes Freemasons even admit that Washington DC is Masonic. Indeed George Washington was a Mason, like many world leaders.

Everything about the American government: its institutions, its architecture, its traditions, its key historic players, its founders.... everything is in a sense Masonic.

And wasn't it nice for the Freemason judge to halt the vote recount when Freemason Bush was wrongly announced as president before the first vote count was finished!

This is no conspiracy theory. It is just American history.


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Subject: RE: BS: New World Order
From: Doug_Remley
Date: 28 May 03 - 12:33 PM

Illuminist of the Inner Temple?

A proffessor of Psychology once gave a quick and playful rule of thumb for diagnosis... "A neurotic dreams of castles in the clouds. The psychotic lives there."


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Subject: RE: BS: New World Order
From: GUEST,Q
Date: 28 May 03 - 12:55 PM

Many years ago I was in the DeMolay (He became Grand Master of the Knights Templar in 1298). I even took the part (in which I was burned at the stake).
How come I was behind the door when the billions were passed out?

DeMolay International: DeMolay
and:


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Subject: RE: BS: New World Order
From: artbrooks
Date: 28 May 03 - 01:23 PM

We must also keep firmly in mind the critical role played by the Society for Creative Anachronism in this process. SCA could easily be associated with sword-worshiping cults, and can it be far from there to Barney, Moloch worship, the Bilderbergers, Job's Daughters and the Bohemian Club?


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Subject: RE: BS: New World Order
From: Ebbie
Date: 28 May 03 - 01:38 PM

Guest 12:16, that's the problem. I have looked at his/her/its links.


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Subject: RE: BS: New World Order
From: Don Firth
Date: 28 May 03 - 05:06 PM

Ever notice that Evian spelled backwards is "naïve?"

Hi, DG! How're they hangin'? Contrails bothering you much?

Don Firth


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Subject: RE: BS: New World Order
From: Bobert
Date: 28 May 03 - 05:50 PM

Well danged, GUEST, DG, HG, etc., now ya got 'em stirred up. Good on you!

Hey, folks, this ain't too big a step to take here. Boss Hog knows how to play all the games when it comes to keeping just as much as he can for himself and his friends. Divide and conquer? He invented it! War as a profit center? He hold the patent. Brainwashing? Ahhh, anyone wonder why he's putting millions and millions of dollars into Bush and Michel Powells pockets so he can finally control *all* media?
Hmmmmmm? Like, I say, it ain't complicated.

And gues what. Aoin't nuthin' that anyone can do about it. It's his football and if he wants a 5th down, by golly he's gonna have a 5th down. Ahhhh, which reminds me. The recent tax cut vote in the Senate in which DEick Halliburton Cheney cast the deciding vore made the front page of every newspaper in the US. The bill where the Senate voted to allow for the debt ceiling to be raised, also passed that day, hardly got reported anywhere. See. His football.

Bobert


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Subject: RE: BS: New World Order
From: GUEST
Date: 28 May 03 - 06:36 PM

Well, the original poster here wasn't me, Bobert. I've seen enough mental disability here to know better than to rattle these safe and secure cages much any more. It's peekaboo. Cover your face and it all goes away for most of these folks. Not Mr. Bildeberger, though. He's on the right track, and more power to him.

Five years ago you were nuts if you mentioned the NWO outside of its wrestling context. Even now people continue to deny its existence despite the fact it is mentioned a hundred times a day in official US govt releases. Amazing. Rumsfeld talks about meeting people at Bohemian Grove, yet that still doesn't exist. Foregone conclusion capital tribunal cases about to begin in Guantanamo, but there won't be any execution chambers. Go figure.


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Subject: RE: BS: New World Order
From: Gareth
Date: 28 May 03 - 07:20 PM

Ho Hum ! - Nothing Changes - Click 'Ere

Gareth


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Subject: RE: BS: New World Order
From: Ebbie
Date: 28 May 03 - 09:56 PM

Gareth, I do hope your posting that link is done tongue in cheek?


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Subject: RE: BS: New World Order
From: DougR
Date: 29 May 03 - 02:41 AM

Why on earth would Gareth do that Ebbie?

Guest (DG): you continue to write your stuff and that's you're right. I can't for a minute believe anyone here buys your POV, however.

DougR


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Subject: RE: BS: New World Order
From: Little Hawk
Date: 29 May 03 - 12:00 PM

What comforts me is this...the World is still way too big and complicated for the boys at the top to be able to manage all of it (and all of us) quite as perfectly and predictably as they would like to. This alone is what has allowed me to live a relatively free and satisfying life so far (although it's been a struggle at times).

- LH


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Subject: RE: BS: New World Order
From: GUEST,N1
Date: 29 May 03 - 12:40 PM

Actually the quote is this, "Neurotic people build castles in the sand, psychotic people live in them, and psychologists collect the rent."

Some obscure psych 101 text book I think -


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Subject: RE: BS: New World Order
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 29 May 03 - 01:14 PM

You can talk New Age all ya want...
It'll still be old age that gets ya in the end...

fnord


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Subject: RE: BS: New World Order
From: DougR
Date: 29 May 03 - 06:31 PM

L. H.: Arghhhhhhhhhh! I finally found something that we both agree on. Your last post, I believe, is absolutely correct (but don't let it go to your head!) :>)

DougR


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Subject: RE: BS: New World Order
From: Little Hawk
Date: 29 May 03 - 06:51 PM

Heh! Heh! Well, that's cool, Doug. Too bad I'm not down in Texas for a visit. We could go check out the burgers at that place you mentioned, or maybe do a barbecue and play some old folksongs. I'll give you a holler if I ever go down that way. If you see a skinny guy who looks sort of like the younger Bob Dylan (circa late 70's), that's me.

- LH


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Subject: RE: BS: New World Order
From: Doug_Remley
Date: 29 May 03 - 09:08 PM

I think you have mixed up Milay's Second Fig with the persnal quote of a graduate proffessor, Guest N-1.


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Subject: RE: BS: New World Order
From: Sam L
Date: 30 May 03 - 10:34 AM

I agree with you too, Little Hawk, maybe especially with the neither as good/bad post. It's very dangerous not to pay attention, but on the other hand if some of the things people believe were controlled elaborately staged hoaxes really were, we're pretty much screwed .


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