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GUEST,JTT 23 May 03 - 05:02 PM
MMario 23 May 03 - 05:17 PM
GUEST,emily rain 23 May 03 - 08:18 PM
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Subject: Tech: How to record stuff in CD format
From: GUEST,JTT
Date: 23 May 03 - 05:02 PM

I went for a long riverside walk tonight. The thrushes and blackbirds were singing their hearts out, the water was lapping, a precise cuckoo was saying Cuck... oo, the dog was racing back and forth after a ball, sheep were baaing and cattle lowing, children were playing across the valley - you know the kind of thing, noisy.

I'd love to make a recording of this walk for a friend who's abroad, but he hasn't got a computer, so I'd have to record it to minidisc and then transfer it to CD. But how do I make the CD files playable on a CD player, rather than a computer?


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Subject: RE: Tech: How to record stuff in CD format
From: MMario
Date: 23 May 03 - 05:17 PM

most of the cd burner programs have a "cd's for dummy's non-audio freeks" choice - '~audio CD playable on any equiptment~' (which isn't true - but it works for most)


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Subject: RE: Tech: How to record stuff in CD format
From: GUEST,emily rain
Date: 23 May 03 - 08:18 PM

yeah, what mmario said.

usually the burning software offers you some choices about what kind of cd to burn, and the "audio" choice should burn the files in .cda format, which is what the standard players read. the "data" choices will burn .mp3, .wav, .everything but cda... you don't want that.

good luck!

emily


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Subject: RE: Tech: How to record stuff in CD format
From: Bernard
Date: 24 May 03 - 05:56 AM

I think the question you were really asking was 'what file format should I use?'...

For an audio file to be playable on a 'standard' CD player, you need to record the file on to your PC as a .WAV format file, and you need it to be 44.1kHz 16 bit stereo.

The easiest way to achieve this is to use 'Sound Recorder' which is bundle with Windows, or to use some 'RIP' software designed to allow you to transfer your vinyl collection to CD.

The cheapest one I know is 'RIPvinyl' - click here! I use it myself, so can help you set it up if you choose it.

In simple terms, you take the output of your MiniDisk and feed it into the Line Input of your sound card, probably using a lead with a stereo 3.5mm jack at each end.

It may take a little fiddling to get the sound levels right - always start with the volume control of your MD right down, and your soundcard mixer controls set at about halfway, gradually increasing the volume on the MD until you have a good level without distortion.

Once you have the wave files, you can burn them to a CD - often best to practice with a CDRW if your burner supports them, then copy that to an ordinary CDR when you've been succesful.

Many CD players won't play CDRW, as they are classed as 'low reflective' - some of them won't even read CDR disks, either.

Remember that audio CD format disks have to have all the files written during the same session - even with a CDRW you cannot go back and add files to a CD you have already written to (multisession)... at least with a CDRW you can re-format and start again.

Hope this is helpful...!


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Subject: RE: Tech: How to record stuff in CD format
From: GUEST,JTT
Date: 24 May 03 - 08:56 AM

Thanks all, especially Bernard. Just one further question: Emily says I need to record files as .cda, Bernard as .wav - what's the difference, and which should I choose?

(It's going to be a couple of weeks; I'll have to get my minidisc recorder mended after dropping it, again, before i can record to a high standard.)


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Subject: RE: Tech: How to record stuff in CD format
From: GUEST,emily rain
Date: 24 May 03 - 04:10 PM

well, the files need to go on to your computer in .wav format (though some programs will let you do it in mp3), then they need to go on to the _disc_ as .cda. must be .cda on the disc! very important!


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Subject: RE: Tech: How to record stuff in CD format
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 24 May 03 - 07:44 PM

Here is a page I wrote about how to do this - How to put music from a tape onto a CD. It's not difficult.


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Subject: RE: Tech: How to record stuff in CD format
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 24 May 03 - 10:32 PM

And I'll attest to it, this is a very handy page that Kevin has put together!

SRS


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Subject: RE: Tech: How to record stuff in CD format
From: GUEST,JTT
Date: 26 May 03 - 03:02 PM

Thanks, Kevin - I usually use a mac, but may switch to a pc for this.


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Subject: RE: Tech: How to record stuff in CD format
From: Bernard
Date: 26 May 03 - 07:43 PM

With most burner software, you tell it you want to burn an audio CD, drag wave files onto it, and the software automatically converts them to .cda for you. Dead simple!

One word of warning, though... you cannot remove the source of each file (erase it, remove the disc it is on, etc.) until after the burn process is complete. I'm amazed at how many computer literate people make this mistake!

My father is nearly 80, and has recently bought a burner to transfer his vinyl collection to CD. If he can do it...!! My brane hurtz!


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Subject: RE: Tech: How to record stuff in CD format
From: GUEST,GENE
Date: 26 May 03 - 08:28 PM

RE ABOVE:

Remember that audio CD format disks have to have all the files written during the same session - even with a CDRW you cannot go back and add files to a CD you have already written to (multisession)... at least with a CDRW you can re-format and start again.

NOTE:

True with many CD BURNING PROGRAMS but EZ-CD CREATE PLATINUM [5]
allows for recording X number of songs to a MUSIC CD today and
adding Y number of songs tomorrow or next week..


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Subject: RE: Tech: How to record stuff in CD format
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 26 May 03 - 08:37 PM

I am sure that a Mac would do the job just as well if not better, JTT, and that there must be Mac equivalents of all the programs involved.


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Subject: RE: Tech: How to record stuff in CD format
From: GUEST,Uncle Jaque
Date: 22 Dec 05 - 11:29 AM

I'm currently fooling with a freebie called "Freecorder" http://replay-video.com/freecorder/support/user_guide2.php

I'm not sure if it will do the CD "burning" or not - but will try it.

At least it seems to be pretty simple - a lot more so than Audacity.


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Subject: RE: Tech: How to record stuff in CD format
From: Amos
Date: 22 Dec 05 - 11:53 AM

iTunes, Roxio Toast and most any other CD-burning application will burn an Audio CD, meaning one that can be played on any fairly recent CD player. It's not an issue, once you have the sound files on the hard disk.

1. Learn to use some good sound recording software (Amadeus, Sound Studio, etc.)

2. Play the minidisc into the computer and have the recording software record it.

3. Save the resultant file as an .aiff file, or if you must, a .wav file.

4. OPen Roxio Toast and drag the files into the playlist for a CD -- be sure it is set to AUdio CD and not a data CD.

5. Click "Burn" and insert recordable CD into CD RW drive.


A


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Subject: RE: Tech: How to record stuff in CD format
From: Paul Burke
Date: 22 Dec 05 - 11:59 AM

I recommend CD Burner XP, which is good and free: here.


Helps if you've got broadband to download it though.


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Subject: RE: Tech: How to record stuff in CD format
From: GUEST
Date: 22 Dec 05 - 04:27 PM

Thanks Paul. Actually, I just found that online and installed it; have yet to putz with it, but think that we might be getting there.

On recording streaming audio from an online radio; could I just run a 1/8" stereo plug to plug jumper between my sound card headphone jack and the input line, so that I would be recording the audio as it came out of the soung card?

Or would that short something out and *Zzott* my computer?

I can't seem to record directly off of the streaming feed, for some reason. Am I missing something?

I Co-host a local talk radio show on weekends and would like to assemble some "bumper" music; we play about 20 seconds of it while segwaying from an ad or news break back to our live program.


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Subject: RE: Tech: How to record stuff in CD format
From: GUEST,Uncle Jaque
Date: 22 Dec 05 - 08:51 PM


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Subject: RE: Tech: How to record stuff in CD format
From: GUEST,Uncle Jaque (Again)
Date: 22 Dec 05 - 08:56 PM

"Freecorder" is advertized as "Freeware", but it ain't.

It is really "Crippleware", as most features are disabled and it will only record about 3 min. in it's unregistered mode; in order to de-cripple it so that it's any good for anything, you PAY.

I don't mind paying for a decent program; - I just wish they didn't offer it as "freeware" and then after going thru all the hassle of installing it we find out that it ain't quite so!

Now to "Uninstall" and try again.

Audacity is more of a PITA every time I try to use it.


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