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GUEST,pdc 13 May 03 - 03:48 PM
Jim the Bart 13 May 03 - 04:21 PM
catspaw49 13 May 03 - 04:38 PM
katlaughing 13 May 03 - 06:21 PM
GUEST 13 May 03 - 07:51 PM
SINSULL 13 May 03 - 08:12 PM
Bobert 13 May 03 - 09:57 PM
GUEST 13 May 03 - 10:18 PM
Ebbie 13 May 03 - 10:41 PM
Doug_Remley 13 May 03 - 11:01 PM
Stilly River Sage 13 May 03 - 11:32 PM
GUEST 14 May 03 - 12:05 AM
GUEST,pdc 14 May 03 - 12:37 AM
Doug_Remley 14 May 03 - 01:23 AM
Hrothgar 14 May 03 - 05:35 AM
GUEST 14 May 03 - 10:42 AM
Peter T. 14 May 03 - 11:22 AM
Don Firth 14 May 03 - 11:57 AM
Little Hawk 14 May 03 - 12:36 PM
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Subject: BS: Bush May Invoke Executive Privilege
From: GUEST,pdc
Date: 13 May 03 - 03:48 PM

The situation described at the following link could well prove to be the downfall of Bush in 2004. Read the part below the Newsweek picture, beginning "But the battle on this issue is far from over..."


What is Bush hiding?


Is anyone really surprised, even one bit?


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Subject: RE: BS: Bush May Invoke Executive Privilege
From: Jim the Bart
Date: 13 May 03 - 04:21 PM

Makes you wonder, doesn't it. When you live in a democracy, the people need to know what's going on. Not just some of it - all of it. How else can you hope to make an educated choice.


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Subject: RE: BS: Bush May Invoke Executive Privilege
From: catspaw49
Date: 13 May 03 - 04:38 PM

Oh yeah!!! Oh Yeah!!! OH YEAH!!! OH YEAH!!!.......I can see this one shaping up nicely. Already showing signs of Nixon........I love it. This may well be the best thing that has happened to the country since he took (literally) the office.

Spaw


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Subject: RE: BS: Bush May Invoke Executive Privilege
From: katlaughing
Date: 13 May 03 - 06:21 PM

You're right, Spaw. I hope it brings his house of cards, no Twin Tower rubble falling down around hs head!


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Subject: RE: BS: Bush May Invoke Executive Privilege
From: GUEST
Date: 13 May 03 - 07:51 PM

"...The invocation of executive privilege could fuel suspicions that the White House is stonewalling the panel in order to cover up politically embarrassing mistakes..."

This is a red herring. No mistakes were made on Sept 11. The most surgical of all possible strikes was carried out on American soil with precision. Presidential access codes were involved, NORAD was deactivated for the event, etc. It's not that Bush 'should have known' or 'had prior knowledge'....they did the job. The Pentagon and the Bushes. The media keeps telling us the govt made a 'mistake', and that's not true. But some attention to the matter is better than none. Bush will either die on a gurney after a fair trial, or he'll throw out the 22nd Amendment and be potentate for life.


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Subject: RE: BS: Bush May Invoke Executive Privilege
From: SINSULL
Date: 13 May 03 - 08:12 PM

Oh my! Did we forget to wear our tinfoil today?

I agree with Spaw. This has all the makings of a Watergate and for all the same reasons. Instead of putting out the facts and saying "We screwed up", Bush like Nixon will lie, cover up, change his story and ultimately lose the support of the American people.

Had Nixon simply admitted that his men were a bit over-enthusiastic and let them suffer the appropriate punishment, Watergate would have been a two week scandal, now long forgotten.

A disaster on the scale of the World Trade Center was in the cards. Sooner or later the CIA, FBI, President, etc were bound to miscalculate. No doubt there were a dozen or more scares similar to 9-11 that never materialized and allowed leaders to become complacent. Keep in mind - this was not the first attempt to bring the towers down. So Bush can come clean, put all the information into the committee's hand, and deal with the flak for a week or two. Or he can stonewall, delay, tie it all up in the courts and prolong the agony while postponing the inevitable right up to the next election.

Hopefully, while we are all watching the sideshow someone will keep an eye on the terrorists.


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Subject: RE: BS: Bush May Invoke Executive Privilege
From: Bobert
Date: 13 May 03 - 09:57 PM

This thing ain't going nowhere! Guarenteed. This is not an administration buit a regime. These folks will be in power until we are all dead! There is no end to it!

Yeah, they have manipulated the public to such a degree that there ain't no turning back. All they gotta do is lie thru their teeth on any issue and then invoke 9-11 and nationalism. Ths US is very much right where Germany was in the mid 1930's. And all the Bushites gotta do is say that anyone who questions Buish is *un-American*. Man, how has the US of A gooten so intollerant, just as Germany in the 30's? It's no wonder that they can't get democracy jump satrted in Iraq because they don't have a clue of waht *democracy* really is. No, it's back room corporate deals. It's the fleecing of the working class. I's intollerance of anyone who might satnd up to these facists who Talk the talk but don't walk the walik.

Yeah, they are gonna bankrupt the country with their greed and shove the working class back about 50 to 100 years. We're lookin' at a return to slavery with the redneck south cherrin' it on, not realizing that they are the new slave class. Hope they enjoy their servitude as much as their Budwieser and NASCAR.

This Bud's fir you! Now get yer ass back in the cotton field!

Welcome to Bush's America...,.

Bobert


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Subject: RE: BS: Bush May Invoke Executive Privilege
From: GUEST
Date: 13 May 03 - 10:18 PM

The surgical precision requiring Presidential Authorization Codes and the grounding of NORAD jets means White House and Pentagon involvement in 9-11. We all know it. People are still refusing to admit it, a defense mechanism, but it'll bust open. And this Exec Priviledge is a red herring. GW not only knew beforehand about 9-11, he facilitated the attacks. The media wants us to think GW was a step behind those darned terrorists, but that is just an attempt to minimize the guy's role in the matter. He IS terrorist # 1, and it'll all get sorted out.

I personally hope GW declares our TX democrats 'terrorists', since they are acting in a way to 'affect political change'. Terrorism, according to the new Patriot Act. That would get people stirred up. Show GW talking about tribunal executions for the opposition party...that'd do the trick. The guy's stupid enough he might try it, too, if people inundated the White House begging for it.


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Subject: RE: BS: Bush May Invoke Executive Privilege
From: Ebbie
Date: 13 May 03 - 10:41 PM

Bobert, you're sounding more like Dreaded Guest than he is! : )


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Subject: RE: BS: Bush May Invoke Executive Privilege
From: Doug_Remley
Date: 13 May 03 - 11:01 PM

I fear that unlike Guest's feelings NORAD and some persons in the Executive branch were not "in on it" or knew more than reported. A cover-up, if there is one of which I'm sure, is about the reality that NORAD, The White House and other agencies are "infiltratable."

Bush is a wealthy martinet. Military careerists are bureaucratic warlords jealous of domain. Were their fallability common knowledge they would feel power-threatened and so want to cover that fallability. I cannot believe they have not plugged the dike by now and this can only be ego-salvage.

"And the truth shall set you Free." Though blinders do create tunnel vision.


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Subject: RE: BS: Bush May Invoke Executive Privilege
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 13 May 03 - 11:32 PM

Is this Dreaded Guest forgetting to use his handle, or do we have another Conspiracy Theorist in our midst? DG--please sign in!

SRS


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Subject: RE: BS: Bush May Invoke Executive Privilege
From: GUEST
Date: 14 May 03 - 12:05 AM

No, my handle was hijacked. So its anonymity again.

If the Pentagon and White House were infiltrated, why were ALL the people responsible for the fiasco promoted? Bush also gave financial bonuses to the people in charge of the agencies after 9-11. This group is so arrogant, they block investigations and cover up and hand out rewards as though no one will notice. There are lots of 9-11 timelines and such if they need to be posted again. Sept 11 was pulled off by the US govt.

I agree the Executive Priviledge mentioned would fan the flames, so I hope it's so. But then another bombing will divert people. This govt terrorizes on a daily basis so people don't have TIME to focus on Sept 11. But a sitting president can be deposed while in office, and I would LOVE to see GW questioned regarding Sept 11. He'd hang himself with his own words. Guranteed.


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Subject: RE: BS: Bush May Invoke Executive Privilege
From: GUEST,pdc
Date: 14 May 03 - 12:37 AM

Okay, all you Democrats -- let the authorities handle the executive privilege thing (hope they can); what you all need to do now is found in another thread called "Shallow Throat." Although it's written as satire, it represents EXACTLY what (I think) Democrats throughout the US really need to do.


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Subject: RE: BS: Bush May Invoke Executive Privilege
From: Doug_Remley
Date: 14 May 03 - 01:23 AM

Almost obligatory in any cover-up is promotion and buy-off.


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Subject: RE: BS: Bush May Invoke Executive Privilege
From: Hrothgar
Date: 14 May 03 - 05:35 AM

If you want Bush to hang himself with his own words, isn't there a risk of the rope unravelling?

:-)


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Subject: RE: BS: Bush May Invoke Executive Privilege
From: GUEST
Date: 14 May 03 - 10:42 AM

Any man who says he is going to Greece to talk to the Grecians won't be able to answer the really hard questions. The knot won't slip.


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Subject: RE: BS: Bush May Invoke Executive Privilege
From: Peter T.
Date: 14 May 03 - 11:22 AM

I still want to know about Mulder's alien child. yours, Peter T.


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Subject: RE: BS: Bush May Invoke Executive Privilege
From: Don Firth
Date: 14 May 03 - 11:57 AM

In the Britcom "Yes, Minister/Yes, Prime Minister" (which, in addition to being a very funny show, is one of the best telecourses in political science ever offered), Sir Humphrey informs a bewildered Hacker, "The purpose of the Official Secrets Act is not to protect secrets. It's to protect officials!"

Works for me. . . .

Don Firth


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Subject: RE: BS: Bush May Invoke Executive Privilege
From: Little Hawk
Date: 14 May 03 - 12:36 PM

That's on another thread, Peter. :-)

- LH


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