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GUEST 07 Apr 03 - 09:09 AM
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Gervase 07 Apr 03 - 09:24 AM
Gervase 07 Apr 03 - 09:39 AM
Steve Benbows protege 07 Apr 03 - 01:35 PM
open mike 07 Apr 03 - 07:42 PM
Hrothgar 07 Apr 03 - 08:24 PM
GUEST 08 Apr 03 - 02:51 AM
Dave Bryant 08 Apr 03 - 04:49 AM
greg stephens 08 Apr 03 - 08:54 AM
Dave Bryant 09 Apr 03 - 04:49 AM
GUEST 09 Apr 03 - 06:25 AM
John MacKenzie 10 Apr 03 - 04:59 AM
GUEST 10 Apr 03 - 05:39 AM
GUEST 11 Apr 03 - 03:02 AM
Geoff the Duck 11 Apr 03 - 07:18 AM
Pork Sausage Mike 11 Apr 03 - 09:59 AM
Steve Benbows protege 12 Apr 03 - 04:45 PM
Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull 12 May 03 - 01:34 PM
Cluin 12 May 03 - 11:22 PM
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GUEST 15 May 03 - 03:05 AM
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InOBU 15 May 06 - 09:15 PM
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Subject: BS: buying a gypsy caravan
From: GUEST
Date: 07 Apr 03 - 09:09 AM

Does anybody in the u.k know how i can get my hands on a proper gypsy caravan and how much they would cost?
I thank you all in advance.


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Subject: RE: BS: buying a gypsy caravan
From: GUEST
Date: 07 Apr 03 - 09:13 AM

I saw one advertised in Thames Valley Trader (car ads) magazine a few weeks ago - don't know if it was still available. The photo looked lovely, very trad. So they obviously are about. Have you tried looking around on the internet for an owners club (if such exist)?


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Subject: RE: BS: buying a gypsy caravan
From: Gervase
Date: 07 Apr 03 - 09:24 AM

Try Nick Dow here. At around five grand each they're not cheap - but craftsmanship never should come cheap.


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Subject: RE: BS: buying a gypsy caravan
From: Gervase
Date: 07 Apr 03 - 09:39 AM

...there's also the Gloucester Wheel & Carriage Co, here. I've not seen their work 'in the flesh', but I read a magazine piece about them a few weeks ago and the quality looked superb.


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Subject: RE: BS: buying a gypsy caravan
From: Steve Benbows protege
Date: 07 Apr 03 - 01:35 PM

I once saw a fully metal version of a gyspy caravan at Sidmouth. The people who owned it ran the swing boats in the main arena (about 4 yrs ago.) Is there a dealer for those type of caravan?


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Subject: RE: BS: buying a gypsy caravan
From: open mike
Date: 07 Apr 03 - 07:42 PM

refreshing this to bring back to the top
as there is a Romani music thread on the
upper threads right now,...i know there was
a Romani band at our local university within
the year i will try to dredge up their name.


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Subject: RE: BS: buying a gypsy caravan
From: Hrothgar
Date: 07 Apr 03 - 08:24 PM

... and popping up in the memory from x years ago (about third grade):

I wish I lived in a caravan
With horses to drive, like a pedlar man.
Where he comes from, nobody knows,
Nor where he goes to, but on he goes.

Be warned, Guest, don't do anything that involves the permanent care and maintenance of horses. They are worse than kids.


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Subject: RE: BS: buying a gypsy caravan
From: GUEST
Date: 08 Apr 03 - 02:51 AM

I have use of a some fields and a vet as a friend. Does anyone know about the metal caravans as described by steve benbows protege? I never have seen one but I know donovan had one!


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Subject: RE: BS: buying a gypsy caravan
From: Dave Bryant
Date: 08 Apr 03 - 04:49 AM

Gervase - I assume that Nick Dow is the guy that I knew years ago at the old Catford Folk Club. Is he still singing and playing guitar ?


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Subject: RE: BS: buying a gypsy caravan
From: greg stephens
Date: 08 Apr 03 - 08:54 AM

If you do buy one, avoid inviting any Kurdish musicians for a visit. Lat weekend I took some Kurdish friends to see some other friends with caravans for a bit of a cookout and music. unfortunately the rather exuberant Kurdish visitors succeeding in breaking both shafts of a bowtop. Highly embarassing to all, it cast quite a damper on the proceedings and the dancing stopped for several seconds.


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Subject: RE: BS: buying a gypsy caravan
From: Dave Bryant
Date: 09 Apr 03 - 04:49 AM

Perhaps it's understandable that many Kurds are feeling a bit exuberant at the moment.


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Subject: RE: BS: buying a gypsy caravan
From: GUEST
Date: 09 Apr 03 - 06:25 AM

yes it is understandable!


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Subject: RE: BS: buying a gypsy caravan
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 10 Apr 03 - 04:59 AM

Hrothgar, I too remember bits of this from school in Scotland. It goes on.

He has a wife and a baby brown
And he goes on from town to town
Where he comes from nobody knows
Or where he goes to, but on he goes.

I found out who wrote it once, but due to a computer crash, I've lost the info, I'll try and find it again.
Cheers.....Giok


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Subject: RE: BS: buying a gypsy caravan
From: GUEST
Date: 10 Apr 03 - 05:39 AM

cheers for info guys. Now what happened to us trying to find metal type of caravan like steve benbows protege described? Can we stay on task please?


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Subject: RE: BS: buying a gypsy caravan
From: GUEST
Date: 11 Apr 03 - 03:02 AM

refresh


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Subject: RE: BS: buying a gypsy caravan
From: Geoff the Duck
Date: 11 Apr 03 - 07:18 AM

Dave Bryant - Yes - This is the same Nick Dow who used to be a fine singer round the clubs. There was a Mudcat thread some time back which mentioned the caravan making.
Mudcat thread about Nick Dow.
Quack!
GtD.


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Subject: RE: BS: buying a gypsy caravan
From: Pork Sausage Mike
Date: 11 Apr 03 - 09:59 AM

Write to my old pal Reg Wingham, he's not on the phone, doesn't need one of them things!He has made two for himself and is going to make another this summer. He makes the wheels and puts on the iron tyres himself and tows them to local shows behind his old Fergie tractor at 5 mph. They'e really lovely old things. He collects sheeps fleeces and spins the wool and knits up fairisle jumpers, repairs any old musical instrument, but they're not as good as he thinks they are!
He lives at:-
Destiny,
Pound Lane,
Winsor,
Nr. Romsey Hants,
UK.
...don't know his post code, he probably doesn't know he's got one!Pork Sausage Mike.


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Subject: RE: BS: buying a gypsy caravan
From: Steve Benbows protege
Date: 12 Apr 03 - 04:45 PM

Pork sausage mike, just as a thought could you find out how much he would charge so as our "Guest" could have a rough idea. Many thanks.


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Subject: RE: BS: buying a gypsy caravan
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull
Date: 12 May 03 - 01:34 PM

GUEST-contact Jools Holland, he is selling his.


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Subject: RE: BS: buying a gypsy caravan
From: Cluin
Date: 12 May 03 - 11:22 PM

Watch the movie Snatch first for some valuable tips.


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Subject: RE: BS: buying a gypsy caravan
From: Steve Benbows protege
Date: 14 May 03 - 01:10 PM

john how did you know jools holland A)owned a caravan and B) he was selling it? how much does he want for it?


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Subject: RE: BS: buying a gypsy caravan
From: GUEST
Date: 15 May 03 - 03:05 AM

how do i contact jools holland then and how much does he want?


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Subject: RE: BS: buying a gypsy caravan
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull
Date: 15 May 03 - 03:19 AM

Steve-I read it in The Times.
GUEST-go to his website, then click on the contact thing.


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Subject: RE: BS: buying a gypsy caravan
From: Pied Piper
Date: 15 May 03 - 07:02 AM

I heard this, from a well connected Amphibian, "Don't by a gypsy caravan cos the next thing y know you'll here the poop poop of a motor car and want one of those too, don't y know."

PP


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Subject: RE: BS: buying a gypsy caravan
From: GUEST,john
Date: 16 May 03 - 02:51 AM

refresh


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Subject: RE: BS: buying a gypsy caravan
From: open mike
Date: 15 May 06 - 04:10 PM

here is a fellow who makes model VARDO
http://www.geocities.com/gypsycaravansite/

here is a thread about a "romahome"

which i added some links about gypsy wagons, or VARDO
http://www.mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=91498&messages=5


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Subject: RE: BS: buying a gypsy caravan
From: GUEST,Cyril, Wicklow
Date: 15 May 06 - 05:36 PM

In Ireland we could supply with the gypsies ! Country covered in them, steal everything that's not nailed down. No old fashioned caravans now here, all big new ones pulled by four by fours. Human rats.


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Subject: RE: BS: buying a gypsy caravan
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 15 May 06 - 06:47 PM

The modern chrome ones sometimes turn up on ebay


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Subject: RE: BS: buying a gypsy caravan
From: InOBU
Date: 15 May 06 - 09:15 PM

Cyril, I might point out that you guyzhen stole the whole earth from us... frankly, if we stole half as much as you lot, we would not be living as poor as most Romany people do...

I tell ya what... how about you give up just what you lot took in war, ie: all the petrol products, every little plastic do dad you've got... then tell me Romany people and Pavees steal.

Give us a break, ya raker.

Baxt hai sastimos,
lor

PS Good luck on getting a voodron\wardo... Guest... do take Cyril around a little in it, so he gets another view of the world. The view from Wicklow might be a little limited.


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Subject: RE: BS: buying a gypsy caravan
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 16 May 06 - 12:35 AM

So who has a photo of the one that has been at Woodford/Maleny Festival?


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Subject: RE: BS: buying a gypsy caravan
From: GUEST,the real me
Date: 16 May 06 - 10:29 AM

I thought we took care of Cyril's type at Nuremburg. Looks like they saved Hitler's brain after all.

A very calm, measured response, InOBU, considering the provocation, although such psychotic snarling isn't worthy of any reponse. (I know; I'm responding ... )


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Subject: RE: BS: buying a gypsy caravan
From: GUEST,Cyril, Wicklow
Date: 16 May 06 - 11:16 AM

What a load of crap from a no mark do gooder. Hope they clean you out InOBU. Save your green earth issues for some other tosser who eats sunflower seeds. Christ open your front door and exam the world out there. Don't forget to take your rose tinted sunglasses off first.


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Subject: RE: BS: buying a gypsy caravan
From: Doktor Doktor
Date: 16 May 06 - 11:40 AM

Jeeeez - we get a decent thread & some Terminal Waster And Troll stamps all over it ...

PS very very nice to see Nick Dow's photo gallery !


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Subject: RE: BS: buying a gypsy caravan
From: NH Dave
Date: 16 May 06 - 12:28 PM

I found this at http://www.poetrylibrary.org.uk/queries/faps/#24

Pedlar's Caravan

This poem is by Walter Brighty Rands (1823-1880), and can be found in The Book of a Thousand Poems (published by Peter Bedrick Books in 1983), The Oxford Book of Children's Verse (OUP, 1973) and The Poolbeg Book of Children's Verse (Poolbeg, 1987).

The Pedlar's Caravan

I wish I lived in a caravan,
With a horse to drive, like a pedlar-man!
Where he comes from nobody knows,
Nor where he goes to, but on he goes.
His caravan has windows two,
With a chimney of tin that the smoke comes through,
He has a wife, and a baby brown,
And they go riding from town to town.
Chairs to mend and delf to sell --
He clashes the basins like a bell.
Tea-trays, baskets, ranged in order,
Plates, with the alphabet round the border.
The roads are brown, and the sea is green,
But his house is just like a bathing-machine.
The world is round, but he can ride,
Rumble, and splash to the other side.
With the pedlar-man I should like to roam,
And write a book when I come home.
All the people would read my book,
Just like the Travels of Captain Cook.

            William Brighty Rands

   Dave


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Subject: RE: BS: buying a gypsy caravan
From: Divis Sweeney
Date: 16 May 06 - 03:57 PM

There is a company which hires them out in Ireland. If you haven't had a holiday using one, at least this way you could try it out first. It's www.slowtrav.com/ireland/bb_caravan

Best of luck with it.


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Subject: RE: BS: buying a gypsy caravan
From: InOBU
Date: 17 May 06 - 03:42 PM

They? Cyril? Daithi Joyce, the Barrister, a proud Traveller, former head of litigation for the ITM in Dublin? They? Tom Sweeny who organised in England so that halting sites could get mail and education? They? My mate Jack Gorman, a one man ITM movement for America's some 60,000 nomadic American Irish Travellers... They? Bernadette Deviln McCalisky? They? my friend Paddy Keenan? They? The Fury Brothers? They, You use the word "Gypsies"... so do you also mean Romany people? They? Ron Lee the Romany lawyer in Canada, They? the lingusist and activist Dr. Ian Hancock? they... me mum?

Who would I mean if I said they... about you? It is very hard to navigate the world with rose colored sunglasses when you are struggling to keep Romany people from being sterilized against their will in Eastern Europe - today, from being murdered in every nation... women and children for the crime of being born Traveller or Romany ... working to stop the many arrests in the US on false charges to investigate communities which have been branded criminal subcultures by ignorant folks like you, though, the few honest studies - as pointed out by the Tarrant County Texas prosicutor's office points out, show no greater amount of crime than the general population. Well, let's call every murder, every robbery committed by your lot, Irish crime. Even better, all the crime by non-Romany people, Gadzhicane crime... pin every act from Caligula to George W Bush on your poor shoulders...
Look Cyril, why don't you take the racist glasses off and join the human race, mate.

Nyes tuka, (to the real me...)
Jal a rakasa Cyril

Baxt to all,
lor


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