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Lyr Add: Hat McGinnis Wore & Hat Ned Kelly Wore

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KELLYS, BYRNE AND HART
LONNIGAN'S WIDOW
NED KELLY'S FAREWELL TO GRETA.
POOR NED


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Bob Bolton 13 Jul 98 - 06:36 PM
Martin Ryan. 13 Jul 98 - 07:45 PM
Bob Bolton 14 Jul 98 - 01:36 AM
Bert 14 Jul 98 - 08:50 AM
dick greenhaus 14 Jul 98 - 09:57 AM
Bert 14 Jul 98 - 02:44 PM
Martin Ryan. 14 Jul 98 - 06:39 PM
Bob Bolton 19 Jul 98 - 07:44 PM
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Subject: Lyr Add: HAT MCGINNIS WORE and HAT NED KELLY WORE
From: Bob Bolton
Date: 13 Jul 98 - 06:36 PM

G'day,
These are Australian collected variants of "The Hat My Father Wore."
Regards,
Bob Bolton

THE HAT MCGINNIS WORE
Collected from Mrs. Susan Colley of Bathurst, NSW, by Alan Scott, 1965.

Good evening to you one and all, good luck to you I say,
I'm going to try to please you all before I go away.
I'm going to introduce to you bright memories of yore,
The relics of old days and scenes, the hat McGinnis wore.

Now McGinnis was an Irishman, from Newry town he came,
He fought in many a battle field and laid out in the rain,
Till a sudden bullet laid him low, all on the Shannondore,
And his widow she presented me with the hat McGinnis wore.

Now shipmates take this good old hat and treat it with respect,
Don't put it in your ditty box or kick it round the deck.
Or McGinnis's ghost will haunt you and the stormy billows roar,
You'll curse the day you trampled on the hat McGinnis wore.

THE HAT NED KELLY WORE
Collected from Mr. Alex Argus of Gumly Gumly, NSW, by Alan Scott, 1960.

Good evening to youse one and all, good luck to what I say,
I've just stepped in to see you boys before I go away,.
I've brought to you the relics boys, of the good old days of yore,
You'll curse the day you trampled on the hat Ned Kelly wore.

You may talk about your cheese cutters and your stiff brim panamas.
You may talk about your war caps all colours and bright stars.
I've searched the Chinese stations, from Hong Kong to Singapore,
And I never seen the equal of the hat Ned Kelly wore.

Source for both: A Collector's Songbook, Collected in Australia and compiled by Alan Scott, Bush Music Club, Sydney, 1970. Republished by Carrawobity Press, 1996.

HTML line breaks added. --JoeClone, 16-May-02.


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Subject: RE: ADD LYRICS: Hats ...
From: Martin Ryan.
Date: 13 Jul 98 - 07:45 PM

Any idea of how long this is around?

Regards


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Subject: RE: ADD LYRICS: Hats ...
From: Bob Bolton
Date: 14 Jul 98 - 01:36 AM

G'day Martin,

As you see from the dates, these were collected in the early 1960s from elderly informants in the central districts of NSW. The first is probably out of the deep pool of Irish memories and would not be dated by the singer as anything more than old.

The second one refers to Ned Kelly, a bushranger hanged in 1880, but has little real connection with his story. It probably comes from at least a generation after his demise - say, 1905 give or take 10 years. This puts it well into the music hall style and treatment that are obvious in the words.

It is not really a very significant song, but it illustrates the casual parody of old material for current, or even social, purposes.

Regards,

Bob Bolton


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Subject: RE: ADD LYRICS: Hats ...
From: Bert
Date: 14 Jul 98 - 08:50 AM

And, talking of hats, or should I say singing? I remember my Mother singing this one with a few of the local ladies at our community's coronation celebrations in England.

This old hat of mine, the inside is quite new
the outside it has seen some dirty weather
I cast this hat aside and then I travel wide
Far 'cross the sea I'm going to wander.

They then went through all other articles of clothing until they were stripped down to their combs. (long johns)

Bert.


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Subject: RE: ADD LYRICS: Hats ...
From: dick greenhaus
Date: 14 Jul 98 - 09:57 AM

Bert- Remember any more of this? Interesting variant on All For My Grog


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Subject: RE: ADD LYRICS: Hats ...
From: Bert
Date: 14 Jul 98 - 02:44 PM

They just went through each item of clothing and threw it over their shoulder at the end of the verse.

As I remember it went...
Hat
Coat
jacket
shoes
socks
blouse
pants.


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Subject: RE: ADD LYRICS: Hats ...
From: Martin Ryan.
Date: 14 Jul 98 - 06:39 PM

The Orange song "The sash my father wore" seems to have appeared as late as the end of the last century - so it seems to derive from "The hat...". What really interests me is - what was before the hat!

Regards


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Subject: Tune Add: HAT MCGINNIS WORE and HAT NED KELLY WORE
From: Bob Bolton
Date: 19 Jul 98 - 07:44 PM

G'day all .. and DT,

The wonders of modern computing science! That tune posted to the 'Cyprus Brig' thread looks good (until I hear from someone who tries to download it). I shall plug on with the other tunes for songs I posted last week.

These are the tunes Alan Scott collected in the 1960s for the two "Hats ..." songs.

THE HAT MCGINNIS WORE

MIDI file: hat-mcgn.mid

Timebase: 240

TimeSig: 6/8 36 8
Tempo: 167 (357143 microsec/crotchet)
Start
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End

This program is worth the effort of learning it.

To download the March 10 MIDItext 98 software and get instructions on how to use it click here

ABC format:

X:1
T:
M:6/8
Q:1/4=167
K:C
d6|d2de2d|d2BG2A|B2GG2G|D5D|E2EE2E|G2GG2B|
d2dc2B|A5d|d2de2d|d2BG2A|B2GG2E|D5D|E2EE2^F|
G2Bd2c|B2GA2A|G19/8||

THE HAT NED KELLY WORE

MIDI file: hat-nedk.mid

Timebase: 240

TimeSig: 2/4 24 8
Tempo: 112 (535714 microsec/crotchet)
Start
0360 1 69 080 0096 0 69 064 0024 1 69 080 0096 0 69 064 0024 1 69 080 0096 0 69 064 0024 1 66 080 0096 0 66 064 0024 1 64 080 0096 0 64 064 0024 1 62 080 0048 0 62 064 0012 1 62 080 0048 0 62 064 0012 1 62 080 0192 0 62 064 0048 1 64 080 0096 0 64 064 0024 1 66 080 0096 0 66 064 0024 1 62 080 0096 0 62 064 0024 1 62 080 0048 0 62 064 0012 1 59 080 0144 0 59 064 0036 1 57 080 0192 0 57 064 0168 1 57 080 0096 0 57 064 0024 1 62 080 0096 0 62 064 0024 1 62 080 0096 0 62 064 0024 1 62 080 0144 0 62 064 0036 1 64 080 0048 0 64 064 0012 1 62 080 0096 0 62 064 0024 1 66 080 0096 0 66 064 0024 1 69 080 0144 0 69 064 0036 1 66 080 0048 0 66 064 0012 1 66 080 0096 0 66 064 0024 1 66 080 0096 0 66 064 0024 1 64 080 0096 0 64 064 0024 1 62 080 0096 0 62 064 0024 1 64 080 0192 0 64 064 0168 1 69 080 0096 0 69 064 0024 1 69 080 0144 0 69 064 0036 1 69 080 0048 0 69 064 0012 1 71 080 0096 0 71 064 0024 1 69 080 0096 0 69 064 0024 1 69 080 0096 0 69 064 0024 1 66 080 0096 0 66 064 0024 1 62 080 0096 0 62 064 0024 1 62 080 0048 0 62 064 0012 1 64 080 0048 0 64 064 0012 1 66 080 0048 0 66 064 0012 1 66 080 0144 0 66 064 0036 1 62 080 0096 0 62 064 0024 1 59 080 0096 0 59 064 0024 1 57 080 0192 0 57 064 0048 1 57 080 0096 0 57 064 0024 1 57 080 0096 0 57 064 0024 1 62 080 0096 0 62 064 0024 1 62 080 0096 0 62 064 0024 1 62 080 0096 0 62 064 0024 1 64 080 0096 0 64 064 0024 1 66 080 0096 0 66 064 0024 1 71 080 0096 0 71 064 0024 1 69 080 0144 0 69 064 0036 1 67 080 0048 0 67 064 0012 1 69 080 0096 0 69 064 0024 1 66 080 0096 0 66 064 0024 1 64 080 0048 0 64 064 0012 1 64 080 0144 0 64 064 0036 1 62 080 0192 0 62 064
End

This program is worth the effort of learning it.

To download the March 10 MIDItext 98 software and get instructions on how to use it click here

ABC format:

X:1
T:
M:2/4
Q:1/4=112
K:C
A8|A2A2^F2E2|DDD4E2|^F2D2DB,3|A,6A,2|D2D2D3E|
D2^F2A3^F|^F2^F2E2D2|E6A2|A3AB2A2|A2^F2D2DE|
^F^F3D2B,2|A,4A,2A,2|D2D2D2E2|^F2B2A3G|A2^F2EE3|
D3||

Enjoy!

Bob Bolton


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