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Subject: West Coast Mudcat Gathering Planning
From: open mike
Date: 12 Jan 03 - 05:47 PM

Hello cats-I have a nice campground near me on the shores of a mountain
lake and would like you all to join me there in early june to jam and
meet each other...tentatively planning for the weekend of June 7-8. The weekend after memorial day (strawberry music festival) and before Father's Day (bluegrass festival in Nevada county) Any one interested? The campground is located in Concow, at Concow Lake. This is in Butte County, near the Feather River Canyon.Off of Hiway 70, between Orovile and Quincy. This has been the site of the Butte Folk Music Society music jam and camp out and the Society for Creative Anachronism Arts and Sciences events. Let me know if you want to plan to do this and if the date works o.k. Laurel,

West Coast Mudcat Gathering

June 6-7-8

Lake Concow campground. Highway 70 in the Yankee Hill area to Concow road, Follow Concow Road 5 miles to entrance of campground. GPS. (Lat/Long) 39.46.26 N, 121.30.25 W

Bring food, drink, ice, firewood, instruments, voices, song books, costumes, pic-a-nic baskets (for bears) tents, RV's, trailers, tipis, friends, neighbors, relatives, songs and tunes to share. This will be the monthly gathering of the Butte Folk Music Society Acoustic Jam with invites to friends from Mud Cat Cafe, Pal Talk live music jams, Scooter's Open Mike events, Old time fiddlers, Strawberry Music Fest. Camp Dung Beetle Residents, Eternal Flaming Pyramid Family Members, Radio People, Contra Dancers. $7.00 / car / night camp fee, $3.00 / car / day.


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Subject: RE: West Coast Mudcat Gathering Planning
From: mg
Date: 12 Jan 03 - 06:02 PM

is that in Montana?

mg


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Subject: RE: West Coast Mudcat Gathering Planning
From: katlaughing
Date: 12 Jan 03 - 06:11 PM

looks like it is California, mary, according to google


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Subject: RE: West Coast Mudcat Gathering Planning
From: Charley Noble
Date: 12 Jan 03 - 07:15 PM

Where in the world is the Mudcat gathering?


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Subject: RE: West Coast Mudcat Gathering Planning
From: Amos
Date: 12 Jan 03 - 07:41 PM

Try Northern California, off of I70, a major trucking route. Here's a Mapquest page that shows Quincy and Oroville.

A


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Subject: RE: West Coast Mudcat Gathering Planning
From: Dave Swan
Date: 12 Jan 03 - 08:02 PM

Sounds like fun to me, and the date looks good.
D.


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Subject: RE: West Coast Mudcat Gathering Planning
From: mousethief
Date: 12 Jan 03 - 08:31 PM

I'll keep the date open for the time being. I'd love to come but other things might come up.

Alex


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Subject: RE: West Coast Mudcat Gathering Planning
From: Joe Offer
Date: 12 Jan 03 - 09:01 PM

I should be able to make it, Mike.
-Joe Offer (Colfax, California)-


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Subject: RE: West Coast Mudcat Gathering Planning
From: Melani
Date: 12 Jan 03 - 10:36 PM

Wish I could, it's actually within easy driving range for me, but I'll be vending at a Renaissance Faire in South Lake Tahoe. If you get bored with the 21st century, drop by and see us.


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Subject: RE: West Coast Mudcat Gathering Planning
From: Mudlark
Date: 12 Jan 03 - 11:51 PM

I'd love to try and make it...just have to find dog and garden babysitters....


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Subject: RE: West Coast Mudcat Gathering Planning
From: Mudjack
Date: 13 Jan 03 - 12:37 AM

To soon to say positivily yes, but sounds like a fine place for a Mudcat music week end. Will stay in tune for further developments.
Mudjack


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Subject: RE: West Coast Mudcat Gathering Planning
From: open mike
Date: 13 Jan 03 - 04:32 AM

yippee! I will hope for this to come together-
any suggestions would be appreciated...I will
reserve the campgrounds-they are quite rustic
and reasonably priced. Details to follow. PM
me with any questions or comments...I can also
invite old time fiddlers and folk society members.
bring friends! Pot luck! There is lots of elbow
room there, with pine trees and it is in the
place which was the historic home of the Concow
tribe, a sub-tribe of the Maidu Nation. About 5
hours from Santa Cruz, 10 hours from Portland.
Just down the canyon from Reno. Laurel


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Subject: RE: West Coast Mudcat Gathering Planning
From: NicoleC
Date: 13 Jan 03 - 11:04 AM

Looks good to me too; it's hard to say this far out but my weekends are generally free. I'd love to come.

If someone has camping gear to share, I'm close enough (Sacramento) to make it easy to haul up water or food.


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Subject: RE: West Coast Mudcat Gathering Planning
From: Amos
Date: 13 Jan 03 - 11:14 AM

I would really love to make the scene, Openmike. What about the Friday before? Available?

There was a whole checklist of points to ponder which WYSIWYG made up in discussing the first Camp Runamuck gathering.

Sooz' original list is here. A modified version for Camp Runamuck is here.

LEt us know about costs, eh? Ta so!


A


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Subject: RE: West Coast Mudcat Gathering Planning
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 13 Jan 03 - 11:41 AM

Be sure to check with the agency that runs the campground, for extra parking for group sites, etc. You could have a crowd! Some of those agencies are pretty picky about parking (as one who used to have to get folks to not park on the grass in Corps of Engineers campgrounds).

It sounds like fun, and a great setting. I wish I were closer so I could join in with the kids!

SRS


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Subject: RE: West Coast Mudcat Gathering Planning
From: NicoleC
Date: 13 Jan 03 - 12:02 PM

If Friday eve isn't available at the campground, I've got couch/floor space for a few. However, the cat loves houseguests (even those allergic to her) and someone IS going to wake up with a napping cat on their stomach.


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Subject: RE: West Coast Mudcat Gathering Planning
From: open mike
Date: 13 Jan 03 - 05:16 PM

A crowd?! Oh, goodie! I will keep it in the plans, then, and circle the date--in red! or is the mudcat color blue? Friday is a go, too. And I have hosted jams there before where dogs came and they enjoyed it, too.

My house is a mile away and there are opportunities there to take a sauna, swim, fish or canoe in the pond, more hiking, hot showers, bath, see goats, emu, split and stack wood, well, maybe that would be too much! I am a vegetarian, so would appreciate food items that I would be able to enjoy, too, but no policing on this !

I believe the wild azaleas will be blooming at that time, and perhaps the dogwoods too. Just up the road "a piece" is national forest if any
one wants to explore the back country..and just across the road is the volunteer fire station and "my" engine, which i could give you a tour of...(hopefully i will not be called to take it anywhere for an emergency call)

any suggestions would be great? event name? We have held an event in this area called the wild mountain faire. It happened every june for 20 years...music, crafts, food. In the public park down the road from the campground...I live at the base of wild mountain and the fair was put on by many folks, including my land partners. It has not been held for a few years now, because it grew too large to handle...thousands of people, overflowing parking and other space,,,etc.

The community has recently moved an original old one room school house to a place near the current school and we are re-furbishing it. I do not know if it was already furbished or not. Hopefully it can be used as a venue and performance location some day..you will pass it on the way.

send any comments, suggestions, or whatever to me in a p.m. or to my e-mail address which is veraloe@cncnet.com yipee! looking forward to it....


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Subject: RE: West Coast Mudcat Gathering Planning
From: open mike
Date: 14 Jan 03 - 04:35 AM

specifs: camp fee is $7 per car per night...
so that wouold be $14 for both fri and sat nite...
plus $3 day use fee if still at the campground
after 11 a.m. sunday....
dry camping...no electricity.
there is running water, but not plumbed to hook-ups....
there is a $4 fee if you want to use their dumping facilities...
for trailer holding tanks...
there are no flush toilets....
i wil hope to refresh this thread at the beginning of each month
so we can all keep in touch between now and then....
Laurel


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Subject: RE: West Coast Mudcat Gathering Planning
From: Amos
Date: 14 Jan 03 - 10:33 AM

Sounds teddibly rugged, m'deah. Are you quite certain they couldn''t install a flush toilet or two for the sake of the Mudcat? At least an array of one-seaters?

A


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Subject: RE: West Coast Mudcat Gathering Planning
From: NicoleC
Date: 14 Jan 03 - 12:31 PM

Rugged? That just means whoever brings an RV is going to be the most popular guy/gal there!


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Subject: RE: West Coast Mudcat Gathering Planning
From: open mike
Date: 14 Jan 03 - 02:47 PM

r.v.'s, motor homes, tipis, yurts, wickiups--all are welcome!
hikers, bikers, ride a horse, 20 mule team wagon...
can't say there is a run way near by, but there
is a helicopter landing zone--come however you can. The grey
hound stops on the a few miles away too. and the train goes
thru Chico, an hour away...i know the river boats used to get
up the sacramento river as far norts as Gerber - between Chico
and Red Bluff once upon a time...We could put together a
ride board if folks want to arrange a car pool plan...
we have got 5 months to work out the details! shall we
call it a hootenanny? a howl? holler? catty wompus?


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Subject: RE: West Coast Mudcat Gathering Planning
From: NicoleC
Date: 14 Jan 03 - 03:22 PM

Um... I just noticed. That's the same weekend as the CBA Music Camp in Grass Valley!


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Subject: RE: West Coast Mudcat Gathering Planning
From: open mike
Date: 14 Jan 03 - 03:55 PM

but isn't the big cba deal always on father's day?
that is the next weekend...


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Subject: RE: West Coast Mudcat Gathering Planning
From: NicoleC
Date: 14 Jan 03 - 04:24 PM

The Bluegrass festival is Father's Day Weekend. The Music Camp is the weekend before.



I take it back -- the Camp is running this year June 8-11, so only the Sunday overlaps. Never mind :D


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Subject: RE: West Coast Mudcat Gathering Planning
From: Amos
Date: 14 Jan 03 - 05:17 PM

Well, its a Mudcattywhompus, in my book!! Or a Conmudcatenation, perhaps. OR even a Mudcatenary, a Mudcataleptic Fit, a Mudcat Tharsis, or a Mudcatalysis Event!

A


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Subject: RE: West Coast Mudcat Gathering Planning
From: NicoleC
Date: 14 Jan 03 - 06:32 PM

Litterbox Jam?
ConCat?
Camp Spawn?
Catfish Holler?


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Subject: RE: West Coast Mudcat Gathering Planning
From: Amos
Date: 14 Jan 03 - 06:37 PM

Catspawn '03?

A


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Subject: RE: West Coast Mudcat Gathering Planning
From: NicoleC
Date: 14 Jan 03 - 08:02 PM

I like that one! Camp Catspawn '03. Somebody make t-shirts!

Although I'm also fond of Litterbox Jam. Wrong kind of cat, I know, but the pun is just too hard to pass up :)


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Subject: RE: West Coast Mudcat Gathering Planning
From: michaelr
Date: 14 Jan 03 - 09:34 PM

I would love to come and finally meet some of you wonderful people. I'll try to keep that weekend open.

Sounds like a lovely spot, open mike!

Cheers,
Michael


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Subject: RE: West Coast Mudcat Gathering Planning
From: Genie
Date: 15 Jan 03 - 03:06 AM

Glad you posted this so far ahead, OM. Gotta firm up some other travel plans soon.

Looks like I can make it, and I might even drive from the Portland area, in which case I could offer someone a ride at least one way. (I may stay in CA a week or so before going back to PDX.)

If I fly, though, I won't have a guitar with me. Is that a problem?

How far is this place from Santa Rosa and how far from Alameda?

Genie


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Subject: RE: West Coast Mudcat Gathering Planning
From: NicoleC
Date: 15 Jan 03 - 12:24 PM

It's a fair piece from Santa Rosa (about 3 1/2 hours). From Alameda -- *which* Alameda? The one in the Bay Area? That's about 3 hours drive.

I'm sure we can scrounge up a guitar for you. At the rate I aquire instruments, I'll probably have one I can't play by then :)


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Subject: RE: West Coast Mudcat Gathering Planning
From: Genie
Date: 15 Jan 03 - 09:11 PM

If I fly, I may be able to bring my 3/4 size Ibanez. It can fit in the overhead compartment in a plane. I'm hesitant to check a guitar now, since airlines won't insure them (without substantial extra cost) and now they won't let you lock the case, either.

The more I think about it, the more I like the idea of driving to the Gathering site (east of I-5, near Red Bluff?), then driving to the Bay Area afterwards and flying to and from San Diego from there. That way I could bring a sleeping bag and other stuff I'd need for "roughing it."

Yes, Nicole, I mean the Alameda in the Bay Area. Santa Rosa LOOKs a good deal closer. It isn't? ('Course, it depends on whether you wanna take the mountain roads or the flatter roads.)

Genie


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Subject: RE: West Coast Mudcat Gathering Planning
From: open mike
Date: 16 Jan 03 - 02:28 AM

nearer to Chico-the main towns in Butte County are Chico, Paradise,
Oroville, and Gridley. the campground is east of chico..check the link with the map...and zoom out a bit and to the west and you will see the
relationship to hiway 99 and I-5 i will send maps closer to the time..
surprised i am planning so far ahead of timw-i usually do things last
minute--Be Here Now! I'm sure we can find guitars, etc. or ask folks with room to bring "extras"...


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Subject: RE: West Coast Mudcat Gathering Planning
From: Genie
Date: 16 Jan 03 - 02:49 AM

Maybe nearer to Chico, mike, but that's meaningless to me, since I've never been there. Having made the trip from Portland to Santa Rosa, Oakland, Sacramento, Alameda, El Cerrito, and even Clear Lake a number of times, towns east of I-5 are only road signs along I-5 to me, but twons like Mt. Shasta, Redding, Red Bluff, Weed, Concord, etc. mean something.

I guess the main question I have is: how far (how long) is the gathering site from, say, Redding? Or Red Bluff?

That will give me a much better idea of how long it will take from Portland.

Thanks,

Genie


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Subject: RE: West Coast Mudcat Gathering Planning
From: open mike
Date: 16 Jan 03 - 03:56 AM

CHECK IN THIS THREAD, AND YOU WILL FIND A LINK TO A MAP POSTED.
THE LOCATION IS ABOUT AN HOUR, AS I SAID, FROM CHICO. REDDINIG IS ABOUT 1 1/2 HOURS FROM CHICO...AND AS I ALSO SAID I RECENTLY TRAVELLED TO PORTLAND AND IT TOOK 12 HOURS, BUT THAT WAS IN BAD WEATHER.
YOU MIGHT MAKE IT IN 10-11. Sorry for all caps--unintentional...
the map is within the post from Amos on jan 12...you can zoom out to see how it fits in with other surrounding landmarks...


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Subject: RE: West Coast Mudcat Gathering Planning
From: open mike
Date: 16 Jan 03 - 04:06 AM

here is a link to the mapquest map
lake concow campground


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Subject: RE: West Coast Mudcat Gathering Planning
From: Genie
Date: 17 Jan 03 - 05:25 PM

Didn't mean to be obtuse, mike. It's just that the maps don't tell which roads are the 2-lanes that wind over the mountains and go through all the small towns. Hard to tell how long it will take to go 50 miles on an unfamiliar road without knowing that sort of thing.

Would you get off I-5 at Red Bluff and take 99 to Chico? Map Quest show another road that seems shorter between I-5 and Chico, halfway between Corning and Willows, near Orland, but it doesn't give the name of that road. It looks like it would be faster to stay on I-5 and cut over to 99 at about Orland. Unless 99 is a four-lane and not too winding.

FWIW, I'm glad you picked the week end of the 8th. The previous weekend is too close to the NW Folklife Festival in Seattle, and the following week would be very close to the San Francisco Folk Festival. But, then, that's just my preference.

Genie


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Subject: RE: West Coast Mudcat Gathering Planning
From: NicoleC
Date: 17 Jan 03 - 05:34 PM

99 is a major highway, 4 lane in most places and 6 lane in the others. There might be a few 2 lane spots. Take the 99; that's a 2 lane street going from Orland to Chico that you're looking at.

When you are looking at Mapquest, red is a major freeway/interstate and yellow is a major highway. Gray is the little roads.


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Subject: RE: West Coast Mudcat Gathering Planning
From: Genie
Date: 24 Jan 03 - 03:26 PM

Thanks, Nicole. Very helpful info.

Genie


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Subject: RE: West Coast Mudcat Gathering Planning
From: NicoleC
Date: 24 Jan 03 - 03:31 PM

True to my prediction, I have manged to aquire yet another unloved and unwanted instrument (a Yamaha SJ-180 for $39 at a thrift store!), so I can bring a guitar to the gathering for anyone who wants to travel without.


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Subject: RE: West Coast Mudcat Gathering Planning
From: open mike
Date: 25 Jan 03 - 06:21 AM

from I-5 , you would want to go until you are south of red bluff and
take the cut-off which is the southern most exit at CORNING. I think
it is called south street or avenue. There is
a big truck stop there and it crosses the Sacramento River at Woodson
bridge, where there is a nice state park. When it gets closer to the time i will post more specific driving instructions from various directions N, S, E, W. Hiwy 99 is a 2 lane for a few miles but then
widens out to 4 as it approaches Chico. There are 9 exits for Chico.
And a good food co-op at 8th and Main, if you want to pick up munchies..
a few minutes south of Chico there is a cut off road to take -- Durham/
Pentz road. There is a community college Butte college on this road. As I said, more directions later...glad to hear the weekend works well for folks...any other questions--feel free to ask....


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Subject: RE: West Coast Mudcat Gathering Planning
From: NicoleC
Date: 25 Mar 03 - 11:18 AM

Refresh & reminder.


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Subject: RE: West Coast Mudcat Gathering Planning
From: DADGBE
Date: 25 Mar 03 - 11:52 AM

By damn! It sure sounds like fun. I was all set to say yup then looked at the calendar an saw that I'm slated to be teaching old-time guitar at the CBA teaching camp. Hey, Open Mike, want to do it again sometime?

Best regards,
Ray


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Subject: RE: West Coast Mudcat Gathering Planning
From: NicoleC
Date: 25 Mar 03 - 12:03 PM

Ray, I thought the camp didn't start until Sunday? Or do ya'll teacher-types have to show up early?


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Subject: RE: West Coast Mudcat Gathering Planning
From: open mike
Date: 25 Mar 03 - 12:04 PM

one thing at a time! maybe again in the fall, but
with fire season coming up i never know what will
be happening when it is hot, dry, and windy late
in the season....spring is a better choice...
some folks have hinted they might arrive on Fri.
the 6th--that would be great...
a lot of other things will happen between then
and now, so we will see!
I tried to pick a weekend that was after Strawberry,
but before the Grass Valley blue grass evnet, but
when "festival season" starts, most weekends are
taken. Had to squeeze it between Kate Wolf and
Wild Iris, too. And San Fransico Free Folk music...
and.....


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Subject: RE: West Coast Mudcat Gathering Planning
From: Amos
Date: 25 Mar 03 - 12:46 PM

Laurel:

I'm a little unclear on location precisely -- is it on Concow Road right outside of Deadwood off S-70? That would mean (for me) running north from SAC on I-5 to the S-70 fork. Or have I got the location wrong? What's the nearest town that would show up on Mapquest?


A


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Subject: RE: West Coast Mudcat Gathering Planning
From: open mike
Date: 25 Mar 03 - 01:17 PM

The nearest town to the south is Oroville.
the closest town as the crow flies is Paradise..
if coming from Sacto, yes go north on 99/I-5 to
the place where 99/70 split and keep to the right
on hiway 70. Then after Oroville, the hiway curves
to the right and heads up towards the feather river
canyon on the way to Quincy. After the 4 lane bridge
over the west branch of the north fork of the feather
river, which is a finger of Lake Oroville, the road
climbs up past a scenic overlook spot. When the hiway
turns back into 2 lane, there will be a left hand turn
lane, right by the Dome Store, a.k.a. Canyon Lakes Mkt.
This is Concow Road, and the campground is about 5-6
miles north of the Dome. All paved, 80 curves. Well,
that is 80 to my driveway, maybe only 75 to the camp-
ground.It is either called Lake Concow or Holland Camp-
ground, and it is on the left across the road from the
Fire Station #38, the nearest cross "street" is Ishi
Trail. This is named after the "last wild Indian" Ishi, a
man from the Yana Tribe who was taken to U.C. Berkeley
by the Kroebers in 1911. The Concow, Yahi and Yana are
all sub-tribes of the Maidu Nation, I believe.
See you in a couple of months!


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Subject: RE: West Coast Mudcat Gathering Planning
From: Amos
Date: 25 Mar 03 - 01:20 PM

I've read Ishi's story -- he was a wonderful character.

Thanks for the clarification~!


A


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Subject: RE: West Coast Mudcat Gathering Planning
From: GUEST,Michael P.
Date: 25 Mar 03 - 04:26 PM

Sounds like a great way to wind-down from strawberry the previous weekend!


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Subject: RE: West Coast Mudcat Gathering Planning
From: NicoleC
Date: 25 Mar 03 - 04:47 PM

Anyone have any objections to non-MudCat guests? (Musicians, that is.)


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Subject: RE: West Coast Mudcat Gathering Planning
From: open mike
Date: 25 Mar 03 - 05:38 PM

This event is open to anyone who wants to come, within reason
(no terrorists, no viscious dogs, etc) I am also inviting the
folks on Pal Talk, the local folk music society, the old time
fiddlers, contra dancers, and those who attend the music jams
at the local cafe, and people from area folk music radio show
--no membership cards to any certain organization required!
And not strictly mud cat members, either.


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Subject: RE: West Coast Mudcat Gathering Planning
From: NicoleC
Date: 25 Mar 03 - 05:41 PM

Ha! And I was thinking, "Hmmm... I wonder if as many as 10 people will show up?" :D


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Subject: RE: West Coast Mudcat Gathering Planning
From: Genie
Date: 26 Mar 03 - 12:45 AM

OK, so is this a definite "go?" And when does the 'camp' officially open? I need to buy a plane ticket by the end of this month (to save $), and I need to know whether to make Portland, OR, or the bay area my take-off point. (I'll drive from Portland to the Bay area if the gathering is really gonna happen, and fly to southern CA from there.)

Genie


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Subject: RE: West Coast Mudcat Gathering Planning
From: open mike
Date: 26 Mar 03 - 02:13 AM

this is at a public campground so it is available
any time you want to show up...I am going to be
organizing a community blood drive and other stuff
so i am not sure if i will be able to make it friday
or not. Hard to tell what will be happenig that far
ahead of time. I will try to make it friday night.
I guess we should organize some pot luck, or other
plan? I can bring barbeque grill and such, though
i don't care to eat meat, but i can't tell others
what to eat! I hope we will all eat, drink and be
merry!! If anyone has any ideas about how to plan
meals, tasks, or other essentials, let me know!@
otherwise we can do it completely free-form and
hope for the best. There are picnic tables there,
and a shelter for the tables. and i can bring my
r.v. and an extra tent or two . Portland is about
10 hours away, san fransico is about 4 hours. We
have plenty of time to plan specifics, i just wanted
to circle the weekend before it got filled up with
other activities...keep in touch...


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Subject: RE: West Coast Mudcat Gathering Planning
From: NicoleC
Date: 26 Mar 03 - 02:20 AM

I'll bring fresh veggies (great on the grill) and such; I can hit the farmer's market on Friday morning next to my office. There should be a plethora of good stuff by early June.

I think as long as folks know to bring stuff and we get the basics covered, we'll be fine. It's not like there won't be a grocery store down the road if we really need something.


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Subject: RE: West Coast Mudcat Gathering Planning
From: Amos
Date: 26 Mar 03 - 12:55 PM

I think I'll bring a pound of sirloin, a pound of French Roast and a fifth of Glenlivet single-malt. That ought to see me through the weekend!
:>)

A


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Subject: RE: West Coast Mudcat Gathering Planning
From: Genie
Date: 26 Mar 03 - 05:09 PM

What? No chocolate?!!


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Subject: RE: West Coast Mudcat Gathering Planning
From: open mike
Date: 27 Mar 03 - 12:14 AM

The closest store is 6 or 7 miles away, and has basic stuff,
nothing fancy, no sprouts for instance. It takes about 15
minutes to get there. Next closest are in town--Oroville,
Paradise and Chico are all nearly an hour away..so you might
want to come with supplies unless you want to commute to the
store or town..the Dome Store or Canyon Lakes Market is at
the corner of highway 70 and Concow Road. There is also a
hardware store, post office and "mini-mart" just east of that intersection on hiway 70. I am making up invites to pass around
at the old time fiddle contest and other events between now and
then so we should have an interesting group. yipee!
B.Y.O.C. (bring your own chocolate)


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Subject: RE: West Coast Mudcat Gathering Planning
From: open mike
Date: 27 Mar 03 - 07:53 PM

Latest info: a neighbor with a G.P.S. unit finds the
campground to be located at this latitude and longitude:
39.46.25 north latitude
and 121.30.28 west latitude.
The elevation is 2,090 ft.
Just so no one ends up in Butte
Montana trying to find us!
I'll refresh this thread again in
another month or so--a bit before
the gathering..and if anyone wants
me to e-mail a reminder or invite,
contact me at veraloe@cncnet.com.


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Subject: RE: West Coast Mudcat Gathering Planning
From: Just Amy
Date: 27 Mar 03 - 08:18 PM

Gee, this sounds like a lot of fun, but my idea of roughing it is when they don't chill the salad fork!


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Subject: RE: West Coast Mudcat Gathering Planning
From: duuuude
Date: 28 Mar 03 - 04:41 PM

Sounds like a great way to wind-down from Strawberry!


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Subject: RE: West Coast Mudcat Gathering Planning
From: open mike
Date: 05 May 03 - 12:13 AM

I have invited fellow musicians from our local folk music
society as well as pal talk people and mud cats. I'll see
if I can get a copyu of the invitation/announcement posted
on the web for folks to access for further information, map,
etc. It is coming up in a month, so i thought i would refresh
this as a reminder. I hope some of you can make it!
I look forward to meeting you in person.Laurel


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Subject: RE: West Coast Mudcat Gathering Planning
From: NicoleC
Date: 05 May 03 - 12:10 PM

I was definately coming, but now it looks like life may interfere. I can no longer say for sure, but I'm still gonna try to get there for at least a day.


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Subject: RE: West Coast Mudcat Gathering Planning
From: open mike
Date: 05 May 03 - 03:40 PM

Please feel free to arange car pooling,
and share other info that will help you
be able to attend! When the map and invite
get posted to the folk society web page i will
send a link to the page. (blicky here:)
Butte Folk Music Society


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Subject: RE: West Coast Mudcat Gathering Planning
From: michaelr
Date: 05 May 03 - 09:55 PM

So the camping spots are reserved already? All I have to do is show up?

Cheers,
Michael


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Subject: RE: West Coast Mudcat Gathering Planning
From: open mike
Date: 06 May 03 - 12:14 AM

The camp ground is a small family-owned, private space. they will have the main pic-i-nic pavillion reserved for us, and the spaces are not all marked out or paved, just a bunch of spaces by a mountain lake, in the tall trees. very casual. not plug-ins or running water at each site, but
then a great place to get away from t.v., traffic, pollution, and city lights and noises!! and make music!! if you have any other questions, feel free to ask!


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Subject: RE: West Coast Mudcat Gathering Planning
From: GUEST,Al
Date: 06 May 03 - 12:24 AM

My wife and I are both turning 50 in June. Maybe this will be our birthday party. It's still June 6,7,and 8, right?

Al in Georgetown


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Subject: RE: West Coast Mudcat Gathering Planning
From: open mike
Date: 06 May 03 - 01:04 AM

guest al. are you the al of radio free georgetown fame??
i'll be fifty a few weeks after that too!
Camp Hoot 'N' Holler would be a great place to celebrate i think!
yippee who will bring the cake!?


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Subject: RE: West Coast Mudcat Gathering Planning
From: GUEST,Al
Date: 06 May 03 - 10:16 AM

Yup. Barbara's bd is june 1, mine is june 15. When is yours? Al


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Subject: RE: West Coast Mudcat Gathering Planning
From: open mike
Date: 07 May 03 - 04:38 AM

Feel free to forward this invite to musicians who might want to join us!


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Subject: RE: West Coast Mudcat Gathering Planning
From: NicoleC
Date: 07 May 03 - 09:47 PM

Hmmm. I'm starting to get the impression that I should leave the fiddle at home and pretend like I don't pretend to play sometimes. Or I can play an A and an E and a D -- hey, I'm a guitar player now!

It's no fair if *everyone* there plays better than me. ;) Can we invite a few duds, too?


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Subject: RE: West Coast Mudcat Gathering Planning
From: open mike
Date: 12 May 03 - 03:38 PM

coming up in a little more than 3 weeks...


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Subject: RE: West Coast Mudcat Gathering Planning
From: open mike
Date: 12 May 03 - 04:37 PM

for some reason the link to our local folk music society
in a previous message in this thread leads to a dreaded "404" page
try again here...
info on the june gathering should be on the calendar there
in the next couple of days. (by the way, i have trouble accessing
the links on the BFMS page thru netscape, but they work on Internet Explorer)


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Subject: RE: West Coast Mudcat Gathering Planning
From: Amos
Date: 12 May 03 - 04:55 PM

THis is scheduled for the WE of June 7th, as I recall. I am sorry to report that lifehas raised a Yewgly brow and will probably prevent me from getting up there, guys. If so, remember me in between rounds!!


A


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Subject: RE: West Coast Mudcat Gathering Planning
From: michaelr
Date: 12 May 03 - 08:26 PM

Dang it, Amos! I was looking forward to meeting you!

Cheers,
Michael


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Subject: RE: West Coast Mudcat Gathering Planning
From: NicoleC
Date: 12 May 03 - 08:36 PM

Amos, I'm crushed. And here I was doing some serious schedule-bending to try and make it up there...


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Subject: RE: West Coast Mudcat Gathering Planning
From: open mike
Date: 13 May 03 - 12:46 AM

what's a Yewgly brow?


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Subject: RE: West Coast Mudcat Gathering Planning
From: Amos
Date: 13 May 03 - 09:29 AM

Yewgly, adj. : not aesthetic, unattractive, having no bodacious beauty -- YEWgly.

Brow: part of the face, or head.

Nicole,me too -- it'll have to be Balboa Park then, after you move? I am so sorry. There is a ray of hope that the schedule will shift. MichaelR, mutual I am sure. But if it is any help I am exactly the person in real life as I seem to be on the threads here....UH oh!!!!


:>)


A


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Subject: RE: West Coast Mudcat Gathering Planning
From: open mike
Date: 13 May 03 - 02:10 PM

here is a map and other info :
http://www.bfms.freeservers.com/features.htm#Folkcampout


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Subject: RE: West Coast Mudcat Gathering Planning
From: NicoleC
Date: 13 May 03 - 02:42 PM

clicky


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Subject: RE: West Coast Mudcat Gathering Planning
From: Coyote Breath
Date: 14 May 03 - 09:11 AM

Oh this sounds almost too good! Butte county is very beautiful, especially in June. I'll be in Yellowstone all summer (we open June 7th). My sister lives in Nevada City. I probably can't make it but I'll alert her and her husband and their folkie friends to the date and perhaps they can go up there. Concow, Indian name?

CB


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Subject: RE: West Coast Mudcat Gathering Planning
From: open mike
Date: 14 May 03 - 01:04 PM

What do you do in yellowstone (jellystone?)
the Concow tribe is a sub-tribe of the
Maidu Nation, Neighbors of the Paiutes
to the East, Yana and Wintu to the North, Pomo to
the West, and I think it is the Nissenan
to the south. IT is only a coupole of hours
from nevada city. I often go there on the
back road past Bullard's Bar Reservoir.
If they are in the North SanJuan Ridge
area, this route is easy. and a beautiful
drive. Ahh0thr fragrance of Kitkadizzy
fills the air on the Yuba river side!


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Subject: RE: West Coast Mudcat Gathering Planning
From: open mike
Date: 15 May 03 - 04:42 PM

Actaully this is 2 weekends after strawberry music fest!
(Wild Iris Festival in Booneville is on may 30,31, June 1)
rsvp to me at veraloe@cncnet.com to let me know if you will
be planning to come. Some mentioned wanting to come on
Fri. If so, I can go and set up that day, so that those
arriving then will find the campground ready for their arrival!
I haver been posting invites on Paltalk and passing out
fliers locally, so hope to get a good mix of musicians!
And listeners. I also have just received a bunch of
Mud Cat patches and order forms for t-shirts and c.d.'s
so we can find a way for this get together to benefit the
'CAT ! There may be a paltalk member flying in to sacramento
and looking for a ride up....any car pool room available?


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Subject: RE: West Coast Mudcat Gathering Planning
From: NicoleC
Date: 15 May 03 - 04:52 PM

I live in Sacramento and can offer a ride.

I *MAY* have rough drafts of the cookbook by then, or at least a big part of it. (I have 69 pages done... twice that many to go...)


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Subject: RE: West Coast Mudcat Gathering Planning
From: Coyote Breath
Date: 16 May 03 - 02:20 AM

Nancy and I are campground attendents up at Canyon Lodge Campground @ 8,000 feet, elevation. We get to open the campground and shut it down for winter (which comes in short samples occasionally during the season). We'll also be doing some "unoficial" campfire singing and playing. It's a 'working' vacation.

Naw not on North San Juan ridge, they are up Red Dog Road towards Banner mountain but they are mobile. Sister plays the autoharp, brother-in-law plays guitar also builds them as hobby. He's a Scot frm the Far North (Canada-eh). Nice folks.

CB


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Subject: RE: West Coast Mudcat Gathering Planning
From: Genie
Date: 16 May 03 - 04:16 AM

Hey, Nicole. I'm not sure I can come, but if I do, I may fly to the Bay area and want to get a ride from there or from Sacramento.

If I do, what day are you planning to go to the camp site and what day return?


My e-dress is jeanenepratt@onebox.com
and my phone # is 503-777-2885 or 866-841-9139x4100 (toll free).

Jeanene


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Subject: RE: West Coast Mudcat Gathering Planning
From: NicoleC
Date: 16 May 03 - 11:18 AM

I haven't decided what day yet, but I will be happy to do taxi duty in Sacramento; and maybe SF, depending on when it is and if I can get over that way. I may leave Friday night, either that or Saturday morning.

Folks are also welcome to crash at my place overnight if needed the day before or after. The cat loves company. It's a small place, but there's always room on the floor.

I will be out of town until next Sunday, but feel free to email me with any details at nicolecastle @ attbi.com (without the spaces in it.)


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Subject: RE: West Coast Mudcat Gathering Planning
From: open mike
Date: 17 May 03 - 12:12 AM

if there is any other sacramento area vehicle with room,
there may be another person or two flying in from southern californa.
some of the folks who come to my paltalk room want to join us!!
i have sent the e-mail address to nicole, too. but i am sure
thert ewon't be room for every9one in her car!
yippee this thing is taking shape...


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Subject: RE: West Coast Mudcat Gathering Planning
From: open mike
Date: 18 May 03 - 03:38 PM

if anyone is going to Strawberry,
stop by the Dung Beetle Camp and
we can get acquainted before the
june gathering! Our camp is on
Shady Grove between Hog Ranch
( i think there is a rd. near
there but not listed
on the map called Oak Knoll)
and Yosemite Trails.
here is a link to our signs
beware of dung beetles
there used to be a link to a map of the camp grounds there where people
marked where there camps were located, but i do not see it now.


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Subject: RE: West Coast Mudcat Gathering Planning
From: open mike
Date: 21 May 03 - 03:02 PM

the mud cat patches have arrived and also
order forms to get mud cat shirts..
so i will be prepared to have this
get together benefit the 'CAT!
see you there! feel free to send
any questions to my pm here or
to veraloe@cncnet.com


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Subject: RE: West Coast Mudcat Gathering Planning
From: Joe Offer
Date: 31 May 03 - 12:50 AM

Since Mudcat will be down for a while, it might be a good idea for people attending the gathering to send their e-mail addresses to Open Mike so we have communication if we need it.
I'm Joe-Offer@msn.com, if anybody needs me.
I'll get there sometime Saturday.
-Joe Offer-


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Subject: RE: West Coast Mudcat Gathering Planning
From: open mike
Date: 31 May 03 - 05:35 AM

i want to refresh this once more before the cat takes a cat nap
my e-mail is veraloe@cncnet.com--keep in touch and see you there..


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Subject: RE: West Coast Mudcat Gathering Planning
From: open mike
Date: 31 May 03 - 06:51 PM

please do e-mail me if yo want to be on the list of folks who plan to attend. I was going to mention that i think it might be fun to do a
pot luck burrito bar for sat. lunch....tortillas, cheese, beans, rice, sour cream, avaocados, salsa, celantro, etc. could be fun! I can bring some giant tortillas to wrap it all up in...
also i will suggest that spaghetti might be a good item for Sat. eve.
meal. sauce ingredients could be shared--
mushrooms, peppers, tomato sauce,
olives, parmesan cheese,etc. and salad. and garlic bread...
(no meat for me, please, but could be added for those who
require it,..).
What does any one think of this idea?
there is a cafe a few miles away if folks don't want to do food prep.
dish washing, etc. There are fire pits available at the camp ground.
let me know if you have any questions...Laurel


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Subject: RE: West Coast Mudcat Gathering Planning
From: NicoleC
Date: 04 Jun 03 - 11:15 PM

Your email is bouncing Laurel, but I plan to attend this weekend.

Community food is generally out of the question for me, as I'm deathly allergic to onions. Ya'll have fun with spaghetti and such and don't mind me, as I'd rather not be making any trips to the hospital. I planned to bring some zucchini and other squashes for grilling plus some buffalo burgers and corn on the cob. (Enough to share some.) Provided we have a grill up there...? Open flame is fine with me, but do the firepits have grills over them?

If I have time Friday afternoon, I will gather the stuff for my awesome onion-less guacamole.

AFAIK, I am not giving anyone a ride or providing Sacramento hospitality. Speak now, or you'll miss out. So, is this shenndig happening Friday eve or not until Saturday morning?


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Subject: RE: West Coast Mudcat Gathering Planning
From: michaelr
Date: 05 Jun 03 - 08:40 PM

The Mrs. and I will be there sometime Friday afternoon. Hope we're not the only ones!

Laurel, will you be there?

Cheers,
Michael


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Subject: RE: West Coast Mudcat Gathering Planning
From: NicoleC
Date: 05 Jun 03 - 10:04 PM

Well, if you'll be there Friday, Michael, I'll try to get there Friday, too. Got some house-selling stuff to take care of, though -- we'll see how long that takes.


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Subject: RE: West Coast Mudcat Gathering Planning
From: open mike
Date: 06 Jun 03 - 01:36 AM

i had no idea the cat was back...
i spent many hours fixing my e-mail
so it should not bouncy bouncy any more..
i just got back from teh farmer's market
in chico with fresh celantro, tortillas,
avocados, limes and lemons for beverege
don't ya know??!! tomato sauce, spaghetti,
sweet corn, charcoal, and i will bring a
grill too.
i will bring some apple juice, but it
would be great to have other drinks..
fruit-y sodas, natural-type ones??
if anyone fgets insired and passes
bya source of such like items on the way..
sometimes costco has multi packs of hansens..
that is waht i was gonna try to get but the
store closed on me....died get salsa, sour cream,
olives, vegetarian beans, and i will make rice, too.
bring ice!! I will try to be set up there by 5 pm
there will be a banner on the camp ground entrance that
says butte folk music society. i am so excited!!


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Subject: RE: West Coast Mudcat Gathering Planning
From: open mike
Date: 06 Jun 03 - 02:14 AM

i will have mud cat patches for sale to support the "cat,
and order forms for t-shirts for folks to get!
wear 'em if you got 'em!!
i am looking forward to this with great joy!
And i hope we all have a good time...
any one is welcome, whether they make music
or appreciate it...i t will no doubt be atl least
20 degrees cooler at the lake than in the valley,
and temps are predicted to be in the triple digits
this weekend in the valley!!


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Subject: RE: West Coast Mudcat Gathering Planning
From: annamill
Date: 06 Jun 03 - 08:11 AM

Good Luck on your first gathering open mike! Wait until you hear that first round of music filling your ears! There is nothing quite like it. I really wish I could be there. Perhaps next year ;-)

Good feelings and love,
Annamill


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Subject: RE: West Coast Mudcat Gathering Planning
From: open mike
Date: 06 Jun 03 - 12:19 PM

let's call it the FIRST ANNUAL and expect to make it a
yearly occuring event!! yipee!


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Subject: RE: West Coast Mudcat Gathering Planning
From: NicoleC
Date: 06 Jun 03 - 05:00 PM

Hey, what are ya'll still doing here? Shouldn't you have left by now?

I gotta pick up another couple of jugs of water, ice and a couple of lemons and I will be on my way.


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Subject: RE: West Coast Mudcat Gathering Planning
From: Genie
Date: 07 Jun 03 - 12:19 AM

Omigod! That's THIS weekend! (Couldn't get onto the Cat for a few days and didn't really expect it to be back yet.)

Found out a few weeks ago I couldn't make it. Hope y'all have a great time, and if you do it same time next year, I'll make a point of making it if I can!

Genie


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Subject: RE: West Coast Mudcat Gathering Planning
From: open mike
Date: 07 Jun 03 - 03:13 PM

we are there-i can report back that the gathering is in porgress..
nice music cirle around the campfire last night. MOre merriment
expected tonite. some folks are hiking, exploring in the nearby forest and taking sceninc drives in the feather river canyon near by.
We have these localities represented: Santa Rosa, Berkeley, Georgetown,
Sacramento, and room for more! we will be there until 5 pm sunday.
Nicole has the draft of the cook book, and we are reviewing it--
it looks great..mouth watering!! we have guitars, mandolins, fiddles, bodhran, a stand-up bass, and fun awaiting...must get back to thew camp ground, just came to the house to check messages, water garden, feed pets, and get a few more instruments and supplies..and to report to the list!!
Oh-by the way, for Joe, and others who might be driving on hi way 7-0
north of Sacto, at the place where 99 & 70 split south of marysville,
there is a detour sign she said. It routes northbound traffic to 99.
There are several place where you can get back over to 70..prob. the best and easiest is to take the 149 cut-off road which is just north
of highway 162 . this takes you to hiway 70 where you go left to Concow road. you might call 1-800-gas-road, the cal trans road condition number, or go to the cal trans web site for info...
there is some construction in the canyon east of here.


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Subject: RE: West Coast Mudcat Gathering Planning
From: Joe Offer
Date: 07 Jun 03 - 11:05 PM

Well, it looks like I didn't make it. We went to a Bar Mitzvah this morning, and it lasted a lot longer than we expected. I couldn't have left home until 6 PM, and that seemed to be a bit too late to bother.
I hope you guys had a good time. I'm sorry I couldn't make it.

-Joe Offer-


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Subject: RE: West Coast Mudcat Gathering Planning
From: NicoleC
Date: 08 Jun 03 - 01:45 PM

Too bad, Joe. We didn't really get rolling musically until 8 or 9pm last night. Sory you couldn't make it.

Thanks again to Laurel for planning this. Probably my last weekend of fun before the move at the end of the summer -- it was a great send-off!


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Subject: RE: West Coast Mudcat Gathering Planning
From: open mike
Date: 08 Jun 03 - 08:35 PM

home again, home again, jiggety jog!!
What a wonderful weekend. How magic to
get together with so many previously
un-known people, now friends, and find
so much common ground! Thanks to the
Mudcat for allowing us to meet each
other!! We hope to do a repeat per-
formance next year, good lord willing,
and the creek don't rise!!
There were robins feeding their babies,
osprey flying over head, rufous-sided
towhees, canadian geese and a gaggle of
musicians. Thanks to all who came, and
contributed in so many ways!!
Same time, same station...Laurel


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Subject: RE: West Coast Mudcat Gathering Planning
From: michaelr
Date: 08 Jun 03 - 09:25 PM

The weekend was wonderful: great food, great people, excellent music, and all in a gorgeous location. Thank you Laurel for hosting it!

Cheers,
Michael


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Subject: RE: West Coast Mudcat Gathering Planning
From: GUEST,Al
Date: 10 Jun 03 - 01:47 AM

Thank you, Laurel. We all had a good time. And what a nice location!
Al and Barbara


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