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GUEST,Victoria Pallot 20 Nov 02 - 10:08 AM
GUEST,Sharon G 20 Nov 02 - 10:21 AM
GUEST,Paul Burke 20 Nov 02 - 10:26 AM
Mad4Mud 20 Nov 02 - 10:59 AM
Big Mick 20 Nov 02 - 11:41 AM
GUEST,Martin Ryan 20 Nov 02 - 12:00 PM
Malcolm Douglas 20 Nov 02 - 01:52 PM
Malcolm Douglas 20 Nov 02 - 01:54 PM
GUEST,Martin Ryan 21 Nov 02 - 04:53 AM
GUEST,Victoria 25 Nov 02 - 10:41 AM
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Subject: Uilleann pipe history/teaching
From: GUEST,Victoria Pallot
Date: 20 Nov 02 - 10:08 AM

Hi
I know there have been quite a few threads on here about union/uilleann pipes, but wondered if you could help me.
I am carrying out research for my university dissertation, which is on the uilleann pipes, and was wondering how most of you pipers learnt them. Did you have lessons with an external teacher, or did someone from your family teach you or did you just pick it up yourself, and did you use any teaching books or the like.
Any other little bits of information about their history and the specific difficulties in playing them would be greatly appreciated.
Also does anyone know whats happened to Na Piobain Uilleann's website as i keep getting told that it no longer exists, and they will obviously be very useful to me.
thanks


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Subject: RE: Uilleann pipe history/teaching
From: GUEST,Sharon G
Date: 20 Nov 02 - 10:21 AM

Victoria,

I'm a fiddler, so I can't help you directly, but you might get a lot of responses by posting this on Irtrad-L, (the Irish music discussion list). I think there is also an uillean piper's list as well.
Sharon


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Subject: RE: Uilleann pipe history/teaching
From: GUEST,Paul Burke
Date: 20 Nov 02 - 10:26 AM

Grattan Flood's book (forgotten he title) is usually considered a starting point.


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Subject: RE: Uilleann pipe history/teaching
From: Mad4Mud
Date: 20 Nov 02 - 10:59 AM

Try this for the Na Piobairi Uilleann site. It worked for me.


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Subject: RE: Uilleann pipe history/teaching
From: Big Mick
Date: 20 Nov 02 - 11:41 AM

Try posting to the Uilleann Pipe List server.

UILLEANN@LISTSERV.HEANET.IE


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Subject: RE: Uilleann pipe history/teaching
From: GUEST,Martin Ryan
Date: 20 Nov 02 - 12:00 PM

Grattan Flood's book was, I think, just called "The Bagpipes". He was the inventor of the term "uilleann pipes" with a bit of creative etymology.

Regards

p.s. He was also the collector of the carol "Good People All" (a.k.a. The Enniscorthy Carol).


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Subject: RE: Uilleann pipe history/teaching
From: Malcolm Douglas
Date: 20 Nov 02 - 01:52 PM

It was The Story of the Bagpipes, first published in 1911. An influential book at the time, so you'll probably need to read it; but do bear in mind that much of what Grattan Flood said in this and other books has since been discredited. As a historian he didn't always distinguish very clearly beteeen fact and fantasy.


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Subject: RE: Uilleann pipe history/teaching
From: Malcolm Douglas
Date: 20 Nov 02 - 01:54 PM

Sorry; Bagpipe, not Bagpipes!


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Subject: RE: Uilleann pipe history/teaching
From: GUEST,Martin Ryan
Date: 21 Nov 02 - 04:53 AM

Thanks, Malcolm. My mind's eye could see "The Bagpipe" but not "The Story"! Curiously, I was given a copy as a wedding present last year, by a colleague of mine who happens to be a descendant of Flood.

Regards


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Subject: RE: Uilleann pipe history/teaching
From: GUEST,Victoria
Date: 25 Nov 02 - 10:41 AM

Thanks so much!
All this info is much appreciated!


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