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BS: IN-GER-LAND!

GUEST 07 Jun 02 - 09:24 AM
Skipjack K8 07 Jun 02 - 09:26 AM
mooman 07 Jun 02 - 09:32 AM
catspaw49 07 Jun 02 - 09:39 AM
An Pluiméir Ceolmhar 07 Jun 02 - 09:43 AM
alanabit 07 Jun 02 - 09:45 AM
Wolfgang 07 Jun 02 - 09:49 AM
GUEST,Ed. 07 Jun 02 - 09:57 AM
okthen 07 Jun 02 - 10:03 AM
harvey andrews 07 Jun 02 - 10:04 AM
GUEST,Den at work 07 Jun 02 - 10:35 AM
greg stephens 07 Jun 02 - 10:38 AM
greg stephens 07 Jun 02 - 10:40 AM
Fibula Mattock 07 Jun 02 - 10:43 AM
Les from Hull 07 Jun 02 - 10:43 AM
Les from Hull 07 Jun 02 - 10:46 AM
Ed Pellow 07 Jun 02 - 10:51 AM
GUEST,Den at work 07 Jun 02 - 11:24 AM
Fibula Mattock 07 Jun 02 - 11:25 AM
GUEST,Den 07 Jun 02 - 11:26 AM
GUEST,Den 07 Jun 02 - 11:30 AM
catspaw49 07 Jun 02 - 11:35 AM
Big Tim 07 Jun 02 - 11:52 AM
Les from Hull 07 Jun 02 - 11:59 AM
Jock Morris 07 Jun 02 - 12:56 PM
McGrath of Harlow 07 Jun 02 - 01:22 PM
GUEST,Den at work 07 Jun 02 - 01:31 PM
AliUK 07 Jun 02 - 02:16 PM
RoyH (Burl) 07 Jun 02 - 02:49 PM
alanabit 07 Jun 02 - 03:06 PM
Big Tim 07 Jun 02 - 03:51 PM
Brakn 07 Jun 02 - 04:18 PM
Gareth 07 Jun 02 - 04:58 PM
Aodh 07 Jun 02 - 07:45 PM
RoyH (Burl) 08 Jun 02 - 06:26 AM
Nigel Parsons 08 Jun 02 - 09:43 AM
Gareth 08 Jun 02 - 09:49 AM
Nigel Parsons 08 Jun 02 - 10:23 AM
C-flat 08 Jun 02 - 02:31 PM
Den 09 Jun 02 - 05:56 PM
Gareth 09 Jun 02 - 06:17 PM
Snuffy 09 Jun 02 - 07:18 PM
Nigel Parsons 10 Jun 02 - 04:30 AM
Big Tim 10 Jun 02 - 11:45 AM
Long Firm Freddie 10 Jun 02 - 05:55 PM
GUEST 10 Jun 02 - 06:01 PM
Nigel Parsons 11 Jun 02 - 04:49 AM
ard mhacha 11 Jun 02 - 10:30 AM
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Subject: IN-GER-LAND!
From: GUEST
Date: 07 Jun 02 - 09:24 AM

YES!!!


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Subject: RE: IN-GER-LAND!
From: Skipjack K8
Date: 07 Jun 02 - 09:26 AM

Haway the lads!!!!!!!!!!!


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Subject: RE: IN-GER-LAND!
From: mooman
Date: 07 Jun 02 - 09:32 AM

Well done England!

(from an Irish supporter!)

mooman


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Subject: RE: IN-GER-LAND!
From: catspaw49
Date: 07 Jun 02 - 09:39 AM

Well done England and Congrats to All!!! Argentina may have been a bit flat in the first 30 or so, but England played well. If I get a vote for "Player of the Game" I'll vote for Mills. What an overall great job on defense!!!! He wasn't always perfect, but the man was ALWAYS there!

Congrats to all of you.............and Andres, sorry old friend.

Spaw


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Subject: RE: IN-GER-LAND!
From: An Pluiméir Ceolmhar
Date: 07 Jun 02 - 09:43 AM

Well done indeed, England.

Instead of instinctively supporting Whoever Is Playing Against England, I found myself supporting Les Rosbif for a change.

Don't know if it's because of the N.I. peace process, the Ali G interview with that nice young Beckham chap or the fact that hanging out with the rednecks at the bar of the Mudcat Café has turned me against all those goddam hippie Argentinians with their scruffy long hair.


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Subject: RE: IN-GER-LAND!
From: alanabit
Date: 07 Jun 02 - 09:45 AM

I still think Argentina will win the competition, but it's a bit special when England beat the likely new world champions. Now Argentina need to beat Sweden, which should help England go through. To my amazement, not only did England win, but they deserved to win. There will be some beer tonight!


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Subject: RE: IN-GER-LAND!
From: Wolfgang
Date: 07 Jun 02 - 09:49 AM

Analysis of that group:

Sweden will be through for sure with draw
England will be through for sure with a draw
Argentine needs a win to get through for sure
Each of England and Sweden could get through in the best case even with a loss (but not both at the same time)
For Argentine in the most lucky case a draw could be enough. Nigeria is out.

Wolfgang


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Subject: RE: IN-GER-LAND!
From: GUEST,Ed.
Date: 07 Jun 02 - 09:57 AM

Superb!

Walking home from town (Stockport), and seeing all the smiling faces, I started to understand Bill Shankly's (in)famous quote about football being more important than life or death.

Hope we don't lose to Nigeria!


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Subject: RE: IN-GER-LAND!
From: okthen
Date: 07 Jun 02 - 10:03 AM

Bloody marvellous, what a way to start the weekend.Well done England.

cheers

bill


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Subject: RE: IN-GER-LAND!
From: harvey andrews
Date: 07 Jun 02 - 10:04 AM

Good grief..I think I've ended my career! My fingers are in shreds!!!!


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Subject: RE: IN-GER-LAND!
From: GUEST,Den at work
Date: 07 Jun 02 - 10:35 AM

Congrats England fans. A very good performance and Spaw you never cease to amaze me and all it took to convince you was a bunch of little kids. Yes Danny Mills, who I don't really like when he plays for Leeds, had an outstanding game as did Paul Scholes and Rio Ferdinand. This was an England team playing with conviction a real team effort. It was nice to see young players getting a chance to show their stuff. Nice to see a break from the way England has picked squad members in the past. Anyway I'm sure the pints of bitter will drained as quick as the can be pulled right across the country tonight. Den


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Subject: RE: IN-GER-LAND!
From: greg stephens
Date: 07 Jun 02 - 10:38 AM

and when the one great scorer comes to write our against our name YEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!


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Subject: RE: IN-GER-LAND!
From: greg stephens
Date: 07 Jun 02 - 10:40 AM

cant even write straight whoooops


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Subject: RE: IN-GER-LAND!
From: Fibula Mattock
Date: 07 Jun 02 - 10:43 AM

(begrudging mutter from Ireland supporter...) yeah, they played well... (small cough) yeah, fair enough... ;)


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Subject: RE: IN-GER-LAND!
From: Les from Hull
Date: 07 Jun 02 - 10:43 AM

Well done, the lads. Yes, Den it's nice to see the Leeds and Man U players playing so well together, much as it hurts me to praise Man U players. It was a great team performance.

We're right to single out Danny Mills for an excellent game, especially as he only came into the team at last minute. And Rio played great, too. (perhaps you can detect the natural bias of the Leeds United fan here!)

Now I've got to learn a whole lot of new tunes for tonight's session.


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Subject: RE: IN-GER-LAND!
From: Les from Hull
Date: 07 Jun 02 - 10:46 AM

Don't worry, Fibs - Ireland's got even more Leeds United players in their starting lineup. They'll not let you down!


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Subject: RE: IN-GER-LAND!
From: Ed Pellow
Date: 07 Jun 02 - 10:51 AM

Why do so many English people seem ashamed of England and prefer to support Ireland instead? (even though most of the Irish team are English)


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Subject: RE: IN-GER-LAND!
From: GUEST,Den at work
Date: 07 Jun 02 - 11:24 AM

Actually three of the Irish team were born in England. Jason MacAteer, Gary Breen and Matt Holland.


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Subject: RE: IN-GER-LAND!
From: Fibula Mattock
Date: 07 Jun 02 - 11:25 AM

er, I'm supporting Ireland cos I'm Irish, so I can't speak for anyone else I'm afraid.


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Subject: RE: IN-GER-LAND!
From: GUEST,Den
Date: 07 Jun 02 - 11:26 AM

Oops make that four I forgot Kevin Kilbane.


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Subject: RE: IN-GER-LAND!
From: GUEST,Den
Date: 07 Jun 02 - 11:30 AM

So I suppose most of the Ireland team is actually Irish. Maybe you were thinking of the French. I believe that quite a number of the French players were born else where. I also believe that they like the Englishmen that play for Ireland don't feel any shame in playing for their adopted countries.


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Subject: RE: IN-GER-LAND!
From: catspaw49
Date: 07 Jun 02 - 11:35 AM

LOL.....Well, you can take encouragement from the three "Irish" guys who scored for the USA.....O'Brien, Donovan, and McBride, although I don't think any of them have ever been to Ireland!

Spaw


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Subject: RE: IN-GER-LAND!
From: Big Tim
Date: 07 Jun 02 - 11:52 AM

I started off supporting Argentina (it's not the English people or players I've anything against, it's the media, the smarmy Motson types) but soon switched allegiance when I saw the ruthless, cynical way they played from the kick-off. I'm not religious but I was actually praying that Beckham would stick the penalty away. The team was magnificent, inspirational: congrats. My English son in law, out in Pusan at present, will be over the moon and my Scottish daughter, out there with him, will be over it for his sake. Ireland for the cup tho!


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Subject: RE: BS: IN-GER-LAND!
From: Les from Hull
Date: 07 Jun 02 - 11:59 AM

Owen Hargreaves was born in Wales, brought up in Canada and plays his football in Germany.


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Subject: RE: BS: IN-GER-LAND!
From: Jock Morris
Date: 07 Jun 02 - 12:56 PM

Oh, was there a football match on today?:-)

Least it seems the match passed off without cheating (hand of god and Beckham's back kick) by either side this time.

Scott


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Subject: RE: BS: IN-GER-LAND!
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 07 Jun 02 - 01:22 PM

James Connolly, Eamon De Valera, Shane McGowan, Spike Milligan and St Patrick were all born outside Ireland.

I imagine if Michael Owen had been Argentine all the English commentators would have been saying he dived to get the penalty. (And they'd have been wrong.)

Best of luck to the Argentine in the game with Sweden, and to England against Nigeria - and then maybe the two teams will meet once more before the contest is over.


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Subject: RE: BS: IN-GER-LAND!
From: GUEST,Den at work
Date: 07 Jun 02 - 01:31 PM

McGrath I seem to remember Shane saying in an interview that he was born in Tipperary and moved to London when he was 12. I could be wrong though. Den


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Subject: RE: BS: IN-GER-LAND!
From: AliUK
Date: 07 Jun 02 - 02:16 PM

Sorry to say but Owen did dive to get the penalty, but that´s part of the game anyway, the ref saw what he was meant to see `the Dive of God`this time, eh? What about the Arsenal players you lot, stuff the Man U rubbish get some in you Gunners. I still can´t believe that Beckham´s elbow in the schnozz wasn´t penalised!!


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Subject: RE: BS: IN-GER-LAND!
From: RoyH (Burl)
Date: 07 Jun 02 - 02:49 PM

It was a bit like Rorkes Drift in the last 15 minutes,but our defence stood firm. but what a performance. Ferdinand and Mills played well, so did Nicky Butt. So did everybody. Ingerlaaaand!


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Subject: RE: BS: IN-GER-LAND!
From: alanabit
Date: 07 Jun 02 - 03:06 PM

God I hope England don't meet Argentina again! Those last twenty minutes were too much for my heart even once. I do not think that Michael Owen dived, but I was several thousand miles away, so I can't be sure. Neither can those who think he did be sure. However, the ref (and a very good ref at that) thought it was a foul. England deserved to win anyway and there need be no carping about it.


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Subject: RE: BS: IN-GER-LAND!
From: Big Tim
Date: 07 Jun 02 - 03:51 PM

Shane was born in England, Kent. He was taken back to the old home place near Puckaun, Tipp when he was six months old. The family moved back to England when he was six years old, that's how he got the London accent. Both his parents are Irish.

James Connolly didn't see Ireland until he was 14, and spent less than half his life there. I love Connolly, but the best description I have seen of his is that by Kathleen Behan, the mother of all the Behans, "a wee fat man with a big moustache"!


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Subject: RE: BS: IN-GER-LAND!
From: Brakn
Date: 07 Jun 02 - 04:18 PM

Pleased to see England winning! Not so pleased with the four police cars and two ambulances outside the pub across the road...........


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Subject: RE: BS: IN-GER-LAND!
From: Gareth
Date: 07 Jun 02 - 04:58 PM

Oiiih! berl - What Regiment ? What Nationality at Roukes Drift ! Its the only case of the Welsh beating the All Blacks on South African soil.

However ! As our management conceeded the time off to watch, and we have now have the precedent - Roll on the next Rugby World Cup.

Gareth


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Subject: RE: BS: IN-GER-LAND!
From: Aodh
Date: 07 Jun 02 - 07:45 PM

Sorey I may have missed something? England was playing Argentina you say?


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Subject: RE: BS: IN-GER-LAND!
From: RoyH (Burl)
Date: 08 Jun 02 - 06:26 AM

Gareth, I just KNEW someone would get me on that. It must be because I am an Englishman living in Wales. BTW I,m pleased to see so many Welshmen supporting England in this World Cup.


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Subject: RE: BS: IN-GER-LAND!
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 08 Jun 02 - 09:43 AM

burl: they obviously need the Welsh support. They've even taken to playing in our colours!

Nigel


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Subject: RE: BS: IN-GER-LAND!
From: Gareth
Date: 08 Jun 02 - 09:49 AM

Actually - When England play anyone at Soccer most Welsh support the Police, though I am happy to see that so far the English Fans seem to have behaved impecably.

Gareth


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Subject: RE: BS: IN-GER-LAND!
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 08 Jun 02 - 10:23 AM

Gareth: are you suggesting that English fans have behaved with no 'peckers' ?


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Subject: RE: BS: IN-GER-LAND!
From: C-flat
Date: 08 Jun 02 - 02:31 PM

Absolutely terrific performance from the whole team but, for me, Nick Butt(who I've often been a critic of) was head and shoulders above the rest for commitment and running. I've just taken England to lift the trophy at 7/1.


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Subject: RE: BS: IN-GER-LAND!
From: Den
Date: 09 Jun 02 - 05:56 PM

Big Tim, I stand corrected...must have been selective memory. Is it just me or is Barry Davis the most biased commentator known to man. I'm referring to his commentry during the Italy game which was refereed by Englishman Graham Poll who I must add did a good job pity his assistant on the right: couldn't keep up with the play/new fuck all about the off-side rule. But did we need Davis to repeatedly inject England references into the game. OK its alright to make reference to Poll being English and as I said he did his job very well, as Poll usually does, now I know he's come in for a lot of critisism this past season but the guy's a pro. But we're treated to Davis' wittering about how well England is doing how they have improved while others, favourites have floundered. The guy just pisses me off. Sorry rant off. Den


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Subject: RE: BS: IN-GER-LAND!
From: Gareth
Date: 09 Jun 02 - 06:17 PM

I am afraid that the "English" press and broadcasting are not objective in disgussing Soccer - mind you BBC Wales, and our own indigeoness press are just as bad.

Gareth


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Subject: RE: BS: IN-GER-LAND!
From: Snuffy
Date: 09 Jun 02 - 07:18 PM

If Nicky Butt was head and shoulders above the rest, they must be about 5 feet tall!


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Subject: RE: BS: IN-GER-LAND!
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 10 Jun 02 - 04:30 AM

I was hoping to see Nicky Butt score the winning goal; I can only imagine the headlines some of the tabloids would have used!


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Subject: RE: BS: IN-GER-LAND!
From: Big Tim
Date: 10 Jun 02 - 11:45 AM

This is probably apocryphal but it's what I've been told: the longest the BBC coverage has gone without mentioning "England", even during matches not involving said country, is 7 minutes 40 seconds! The ITV figure would, I'm fairly sure, be close or maybe even "better"!


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Subject: RE: BS: IN-GER-LAND!
From: Long Firm Freddie
Date: 10 Jun 02 - 05:55 PM

The rather good BBC site has unearthed this gem:

...And finally the Daily Mirror has discovered the secret to England's success - Tord Grip's accordion.

Sven Goran Eriksson's right-hand man has been entertaining the troops with his instrument.

Eriksson said: "He's already played for the staff. They were all singing.

"You must switch and have a laugh. Life is fun," he added.

LFF


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Subject: RE: BS: IN-GER-LAND!
From: GUEST
Date: 10 Jun 02 - 06:01 PM

Nigel Parsons,

Nicky Butt has often had superb, game defining performances for Man Utd.

Never, (to my knowledge) have the tabloids (mis)used his name in their headlines.

To be more facile and immature than the Sun / News of the World is quite an achievement!

Well done Nigel!


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Subject: RE: BS: IN-GER-LAND!
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 11 Jun 02 - 04:49 AM

Guest: (I rise to the bait) Was I 'facile', well, I have that 'facility' however, I just loaded the gun. But I don't think any scatological headline could have been worse than the headline used by the Daily Star.
For those who manage to completely avoid the tabloids, (or are from different shores) The Daily Star (more a porn comic than a newspaper) headlined their story of England's football victory over Argentina with the word "Gotcha" which was a repeat of the Sun's headline on the sinking of the General Belgrano.
This takes British 'jounalism' to a new all-time low!


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Subject: RE: BS: IN-GER-LAND!
From: ard mhacha
Date: 11 Jun 02 - 10:30 AM

Ireland through once again to the last 16, not bad, our third World Cup and once again the lads have done us proud. England will go through against an ordinary Nigerian side. Ard Mhacha.


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Subject: RE: BS: IN-GER-LAND!
From: caz2ufolk
Date: 11 Jun 02 - 02:01 PM

Not had time to read all. Just about to watch the repeat of the Irish match.

Ard Mhacha - It's just brilliant!! Let's hope England make it too. Nigeria have some skilled players.

Nigel - Thank god! Tabloid papers don't reflect the true thoughts of the British public

Caz


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Subject: RE: BS: IN-GER-LAND!
From: InOBU
Date: 11 Jun 02 - 03:28 PM

I am betting that Tristam de Cuna will take all... Unfortunatly they can only get off their island once a year, and it takes a year to get back, so it will take a while, but watch out when they do!!!! Larry


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