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BS: Why did god make me fat?

GUEST,Seventeen Stone 14 Feb 02 - 03:36 PM
wildlone 14 Feb 02 - 03:44 PM
MMario 14 Feb 02 - 03:50 PM
Mad4Mud 14 Feb 02 - 03:53 PM
Murph10566 14 Feb 02 - 04:02 PM
GUEST,Seventeen Stone 14 Feb 02 - 04:13 PM
Bill D 14 Feb 02 - 04:21 PM
Desdemona 14 Feb 02 - 04:22 PM
Hollowfox 14 Feb 02 - 04:30 PM
Clinton Hammond 14 Feb 02 - 04:31 PM
Mad4Mud 14 Feb 02 - 04:35 PM
GUEST,Seventeen Stone 14 Feb 02 - 04:37 PM
GUEST,Seventeen Stone 14 Feb 02 - 04:40 PM
Desdemona 14 Feb 02 - 04:40 PM
Hollowfox 14 Feb 02 - 04:58 PM
Herga Kitty 14 Feb 02 - 05:04 PM
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JeZeBeL 14 Feb 02 - 05:07 PM
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Subject: Why did god make me fat?
From: GUEST,Seventeen Stone
Date: 14 Feb 02 - 03:36 PM

Its not fair. Why did he make me this way. When I was growing up all I wanted was to be a wife and mother. It will never happen. People just feel sorry for me. They walk up to me and give me diet tips. My doctor wants to put me on diet pills. What is the reason? I am struggling here.


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Subject: RE: BS: Why did god make me fat?
From: wildlone
Date: 14 Feb 02 - 03:44 PM

God in his wisdom made you as you are so there is more to go round.
dave[I likes em cuddly]


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Subject: RE: BS: Why did god make me fat?
From: MMario
Date: 14 Feb 02 - 03:50 PM

you're still a good 4 stone lighter then I am


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Subject: RE: BS: Why did god make me fat?
From: Mad4Mud
Date: 14 Feb 02 - 03:53 PM

I imagine your doctor is concerned about your health and that is why he is suggesting diet pills. One of my dear friends at work weighs about what you weigh and is 5 ft. 3 in. She is on high-blood pressure medicine because of it and has more illnesses related to her weight than you can imagine. I would love to see her lose weight just so she will be healthier and possibly live longer and that's why I make sure we get out and walk everyday at work.
I'm not sure if you are saying you would like to lose weight or are upset because people aren't accepting of you at the weight you are.


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Subject: RE: BS: Why did god make me fat?
From: Murph10566
Date: 14 Feb 02 - 04:02 PM

Not to worry, '17' - To quote Spike Milligan, I'm damn near 'A Threat to Shipping'... Stay well, M.


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Subject: RE: BS: Why did god make me fat?
From: GUEST,Seventeen Stone
Date: 14 Feb 02 - 04:13 PM

Mad4Mud

I can't lose weight, and I will never be able to make everyone accept me. I'm just moaning.

Sorry.


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Subject: RE: BS: Why did god make me fat?
From: Bill D
Date: 14 Feb 02 - 04:21 PM

*sigh*...there is no reason to it all. I was a skinny kid, my younger brother got ALL the weight. I still have my hair at 62, but am losing hearing and having cataracts in my eyes.

It's called being human...and the best way to be human is to do our best with what we have. Being fat was a survival characteristic at one time, ensuring storage of energy....now it is a problem for many.

You can work against it, or you can tolerate it...or you can ignore it, even when those around you don't want to.

I know one person who went thru the process of having their jaws wired shut for months to limit calories...and it did no lasting good.....and I knew another who just 'decided' to lose 50 lbs...and did.

I guess all the talk boils down to YOU, and whether you allow the situation to consume you...and no one can answer that for you.

I do wish you well and hope life is good when weight is subtracted from the equation. (hard to say that gently)


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Subject: RE: BS: Why did god make me fat?
From: Desdemona
Date: 14 Feb 02 - 04:22 PM

When I first saw the title of this thread, I swear I thought it was posted by my sister; it's a questions she often asks.

I'm not a doctor or anything remotely resembling one (I don't even play one on TV), but the best advice I can give you is to focus on taking good care of yourself, rather than weight & size per se. Eat foods that are good for you, exercise to a degree that feels okay (i really like to walk; a stroll with a friend is a nice opportunity to socialise as well), and think in terms of being good to YOU---you're worth it, you deserve it. Find ways to be nice to yourself that aren't about food---lovely perfume, a new book or bed linens, bath stuff.

If you think of yourself as someone who deserves to be treated well & act accordingly, I think you'll start feeling better, whatever your weight.

D.


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Subject: RE: BS: Why did god make me fat?
From: Hollowfox
Date: 14 Feb 02 - 04:30 PM

Just curious, dear...why did you choose to pose this question on a folk music forum?


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Subject: RE: BS: Why did god make me fat?
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 14 Feb 02 - 04:31 PM

What did Queen sing??

"Fat bottomed girls, they make the rockin' world go round!"

*big grin!*

Or off Garnet Rogers new CD...

"Well, I'm not one for fashion
I don't care about Gay Paree
Those sullen junkies on the runway
All look like hell to me
They pout, they pose, they curl their lips
They miss too many meals
With their implants and injections
Only God knows what is real
But you come downstiars so sweet tonight
You nearly knocked me flat
Where'd you get that little dress
Where'd you get that hat?"

love yerself...

;-)


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Subject: RE: BS: Why did god make me fat?
From: Mad4Mud
Date: 14 Feb 02 - 04:35 PM

Don't apologize '17'. I just didn't understand the intent of the post.
I have heard of people that for metabolistic (is that a word?) reasons have a lot of difficulty losing weight. Desdemona's advice is sound especially the walking part. Also if nothing else just drinking lots more water helps.
I hated walking when I first started exercising. It took me about two weeks to absolutely love it. It's my time to myself and I greatly value it.
You need to find something to do (like a hobby) that makes you feel good about yourself. Don't give up on yourself!


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Subject: RE: BS: Why did god make me fat?
From: GUEST,Seventeen Stone
Date: 14 Feb 02 - 04:37 PM

Hollowfox,

Because I get more responses here faster than any other forum I've been to. People seem to genuinely care.

Is that a satisfactory answer?


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Subject: RE: BS: Why did god make me fat?
From: GUEST,Seventeen Stone
Date: 14 Feb 02 - 04:40 PM

Clinton,

I've always thought you were more of a gentleman than you let on. I mean that in the nicest possible way. Thank you. :-)


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Subject: RE: BS: Why did god make me fat?
From: Desdemona
Date: 14 Feb 02 - 04:40 PM

It's an absolutely satisfactory answer; by & large the peopel in this community are kind, thoughtful & caring. Just because we get into the occasional passionate argument about the relative irresistibilty of William Shatner (MUST resist...) doesn't mean we're not nice people.


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Subject: RE: BS: Why did god make me fat?
From: Hollowfox
Date: 14 Feb 02 - 04:58 PM

Yes indeed, 17. Thanks for answering. I wish I had advice to add to the good stuff here, but walking and drinking water are excellent advice.


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Subject: RE: BS: Why did god make me fat?
From: Herga Kitty
Date: 14 Feb 02 - 05:04 PM

17 stone and Hollowfox

There is a song on this general theme:

16 stones and what do you get A whole lot of woman and that's a fact Take a good close look and what do you see There are no sharp corners on a woman like me.

Let him or her who is above or below criticism cast the first stone in either direction.


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Subject: RE: BS: Why did god make me fat?
From: SharonA
Date: 14 Feb 02 - 05:05 PM

Hello, 17, and welcome. As Mad4Mud said, your doctor may have suggested a diet-pill regimen out of concern for your health and well-being. If you are interested in losing weight but reluctant to take pills, there are certainly other ways to go about reducing excess weight. But you are absolutely right to feel that those people who walk up to you and give you diet tips, without asking if you're interested or without even introducing themselves, are way out of line. Speaking as a very overweight person myself – okay, an obese person – I can tell you that some of those "flamers" of the 3D world are as difficult to ignore as website flamers! So, I sympathize.

I'm concerned about your wife-and-mother statement. Having excess weight, in and of itself, does not automatically mean that you'll never be a wife!!! There are men out there who are interested in a woman's inner beauty (and c'mon now, would you really want to date any man that wasn't interested in you as a person, no matter how little you might weigh??). Bear in mind, though, that a lighter body can mean more freedom of movement, and thus more enhanced pleasure, in those *ahem* intimate moments with a partner(!), so losing weight has the potential to make you "feel better" in more ways than you might think!

As for "never" becoming a mother: I've never been pregnant, so I don't know firsthand how excess weight can affect mother and fetus during pregnancy; perhaps some others here can elaborate. There are also several articles at www.webmd.com on the subject. But even if you have a medical condition that makes it inadvisable for you to become pregnant (as I do – unrelated to my weight), don't forget that there are children out there waiting to be adopted into a loving home. So don't give up on motherhood too easily!

If it's your intent to lose weight, please do become aggressive in your search to find a plan that's right for you. Ask your doctor for options, ask other doctors for other options, find out if there's a medical cause for your present weight that a simple diet won't fix, search the internet for information. Then you can make an informed decision about your medical treatment and about swallowing that doctor's diet pill.

Also, please keep us posted about how you're doing! There are lots of people here, from around the world, who care. Life's good that way, even if it isn't fair.

Sharon


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Subject: RE: BS: Why did god make me fat?
From: JeZeBeL
Date: 14 Feb 02 - 05:07 PM

I'm 21 and not the worlds slimmest person to say the least. I've just moved into a new house with a couple of other mudcats. We ain't really got much money at the moment so we don't each a balanced diet. we tend to live on pasta and cheese. Really not good for us. Catherine is a well built person too but she's about 6 foot tall. I remember when she used to be stick thin and looked very ill. She wasn't anorexic or bulemic either. I saw her again for the first time in 4 years a couple of months ago and she had put on weight, just as I have. She does exercise in a way as she works behind a bar in a very popular night club, but I have only just got a job, and I'm not really walking around a lot on the job. This can be a big problem in weightloss. Especially if you work in an office as you are sat down at a desk for most of the day. By the time you get home, you're knackered and really don't feel like doing much..so you don't do any exercise..and the weight piles on. Also if you eat late at night you go to bed on a full stomach and so your body hasn't had chance to do anything about the food you've just put into it.

I don't let this get me down, and neither does cat. We're big and cuddly, but I'm bigger and cuddlier, and if people want to be with us they have to want to be with us for who we are. If someone likes me they'll take me for who I am on the inside aswell as the outside. I will admit that I want to loose some more weight though. I've lost 3 stone in the past year, and it's been difficult. I've started taking part in some sports that I used to do a while a go including swimming, cycling, walking, ice skating and canoeing. All I need now is the balanced diet to go with it and I'll be sorted.

I guess my advice is, don't let it get you down. If someone likes you, they like you for who you are. The cuddlier the better I say. We're great people. I'm not afraid to go out in a short skirt and top, as long as I feel confident in myself. I'm happy with me and that's the main thing.

Jez xxx


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Subject: RE: BS: Why did god make me fat?
From: SharonA
Date: 14 Feb 02 - 05:19 PM

JeZeBeL says, "We're great people." Amen! Woo-hoo! You go, girl!

By the way, could someone please post the conversion formula from American pounds into "stone"? (Somehow, the term "pounds" sounds so much gentler than a word that's also a synonym for "rock"! *G*)

Sharon


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Subject: RE: BS: Why did god make me fat?
From: Mad4Mud
Date: 14 Feb 02 - 05:26 PM

1 stone = 14lbs.


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Subject: RE: BS: Why did god make me fat?
From: JeZeBeL
Date: 14 Feb 02 - 05:26 PM

I hate stones aswell...makes me feel even bigger. I am proud to be who I am n I aint afraid to be myself. Thanks 4 agreeing SharonA we are great people. Others just don't give us the time of day and try to get to know us.


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Subject: RE: BS: Why did god make me fat?
From: Mad4Mud
Date: 14 Feb 02 - 05:29 PM

On a "lighter" note here's something to make us all feel better...Click here!
Enjoy...I know I did!!!


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Subject: RE: BS: Why did god make me fat?
From: Cappuccino
Date: 14 Feb 02 - 05:30 PM

You sound a thoroughly OK person to me; seems God did a pretty good job of that.

All the best - Ian B


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Subject: RE: BS: Why did god make me fat?
From: Mrs.Duck
Date: 14 Feb 02 - 05:32 PM

Married twice very happily - mother of five - wish I was still 17 stone but still have my health and the love of a good man! Its not what's on the outside but what's on the inside that makes you beautiful! God didn't make me fat - I suspect beer and chocolate were more culpable! By all means try to lose weight but don't expect your life to change drastically with the smaller waistline. You must learn to love yourself and then it will follow that others will do so!


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Subject: RE: BS: Why did god make me fat?
From: mack/misophist
Date: 14 Feb 02 - 05:35 PM

Dear 17,
You're fat, as I am, because you had fat ancestors. There was a massive study done in Scandinavia in the 60's or 70's which determined that an overwhelming majority of obese people come from pesant stock - as I do. For a subsistance farmer this is a great benefit. When food is available, we pesants (sp?) put on weight very easily; during the harsh winter, the weight tends to stay, no matter how hard we work; then in the Spring, when ordinary people have no strength left for plowing or forraging, we still have fat reserves to draw on to do the necessary work. It may not be stylish but it's survival. A lot of the country men I've known prefer a solid woman. At the turn of the century, bulk was a sign of success. Hang on, some day the wheel will turn again. Some day the AMA may even read that Scandinavian study.


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Subject: RE: BS: Why did god make me fat?
From: GUEST,Seventeen Stone
Date: 14 Feb 02 - 05:36 PM

Hmm, I miscalculated. I am only a bit over 15 stone. I am American myself, so I got the numbers off. To be honest, I think 'seventeen stone' sounds more poetic.

Thanks to everyone for the kind words. To answer SharonA, I don't think being overweight necessarily precludes me from wifehood and motherhood. In fact I think they're both overrated at times. But, I recall what I dreamt about as a girl, and I think of how my life is now and I get depressed sometimes. Add to that today is Valentine's Day, and you get the ugly boohooing you saw in my first post. It's not just about weight. The issues go much, much deeper.

Mad, what a cool link! I want to go to Pluto, AND Jupiter, just for the experience!


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Subject: RE: BS: Why did god make me fat?
From: CarolC
Date: 14 Feb 02 - 05:37 PM

It is my belief that sometimes (certainly not all the time) when people have difficulty bringing their weight down to something they feel comfortable with, it's because of Bovine Growth Hormone and other hormones found in meat, dairy products, and eggs.

A few years ago I was finding it to be impossible to get down to the weight at which I feel the most comfortable. I eliminated these hormones from my diet as much as possible, and I lost the weight quite easily after that.

I know this is difficult to do, but in my case it involved eating only organic dairy products and eggs. I haven't eaten meat in decades, so that wasn't an issue for me. But it is possible in some places, to obtain organically grown meat that doesn't have these hormones in it. It looks to me like you are in a country other than the US, and I don't know what the situation is where you are with regard to organic food products. But it might be worth looking into if you're in a position to do so, and if you're interested in finding out if it will help.


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Subject: RE: BS: Why did god make me fat?
From: CarolC
Date: 14 Feb 02 - 05:39 PM

Looks like we cross-posted. I now see that you are in the US.


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Subject: RE: BS: Why did god make me fat?
From: Kim C
Date: 14 Feb 02 - 05:40 PM

I guess the same reason he made me short, and my husband bald. :-)

It's hard to "make" people accept you, no matter who you are. If people won't accept you as yourself, then you're hanging with the wrong people.

One of my dearest friends is a queen-size lady, and has been that way as long as I've known her, which is going on 15 years. She makes an effort to eat good food, but doesn't really have any interest in decreasing her size. Nonetheless she is beautiful, and she loves life. I love her exactly like she is. And if one day she said, I'm going to lose 100 pounds, sure, I'd be behind her 100%. But I'm behind her 100% anyway, because she's my friend.

Only you can decide what you want to do. If you really don't like being 17 stone, then you're the only one who can do anything about it, but you have to want to. And if you don't want to right now, It's Okay!

Take some time to love yourself. Then you can decide what you want to do. Many blessings and good luck ------ KFC


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Subject: RE: BS: Why did god make me fat?
From: Gary T
Date: 14 Feb 02 - 05:58 PM

1 stone = 14 pounds = 6.36 kilograms

As to this: ...I will never be able to make everyone accept me., that's true for everyone to some degree. Sadly, large folks, especially women, seem to get more grief than understanding in most societies. We could do better.


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Subject: RE: BS: Why did god make me fat?
From: wysiwyg
Date: 14 Feb 02 - 05:58 PM

There is new research that indicates an adenovirus, Ad36, may be a factor, especially when weight gain is sudden. In chickens it has been demonstrated clearly that it causes rapid and dramatic increase in the number of fat cells. In a study of human obesity, half of the subjects tested were found to have antibodies to Ad36, indicating exposure at some point in time. It is also possible that this viral link may be part of why people do not like to be around fat people-- it may actually be catching, and the aversion may be an instinctive response.

Another factor in metabolism is that most "diets" are not calculated with enough calories in them for big people. The diets put the body into starvation mode, and the metabolism acts to "save" the person by lowering itself. So then the person will not lose at the rate they expected, and may even gain. The body may also react by taking protein from the body's stores if not enough is eaten-- and this would be from muscle and even cardiac muscle.

Decreased muscle mass leaves the person exercising with insufficient power to exercise safely. This can easily result in chrononc tendonitis as the tendons try to do what the msucles can't do.

Increased muscle mass, on the other hand, burns more fat, runs the body's metabolism hotter and faster.

Underhydrated muscles are also vulnerable. The Tour de France people said that at a 20% decrease in hydration, the muscles can only work at 80% of capacity.

Water appears to play an important role in weight loss as well. People dieting and exercising without drinking eough water are not metabolising fat effectively.

Most docotrs are trained to asusume that big people are lying about what they eat. Thus they are unable from the get-go to spot what eating patterns may be at work, or to help-- except by hauling out the average desired weight charts and the standard 1200 or 1500 calorie food plans. Many obese people really only eat two meals a day, and can hardly stand the thought of breakfast. At one discussion forum where there is a program designed around all these realities, thread after thread asks, "How can I possibly eat this much FOOD?????"

I have a full set of bookmarks and I am ewilling to share them via PM. I may post them at the Annexe but right now I don't have time. You can learn all this with clever searching at Google. Of particular interest are the sites where you can calculate what amount of calories you are burning for your present weight, and also how to determine yor metabolic rate.

Exercising with extra weight is equivalent to a skinny person haluing that same amount of excess weight around while they play tennis. Consider sports medicine the more effective model for an attempt at a rigorous exercise plan. Dare your skinny friends to strap on the same percentage of excess weight you are carrying-- bags of kitty litter or horse feed are perfect-- and see if they can keep up with you, even to walk around the block.

I had my child at a weight over 200 pounds. I met and married my husband at about 215. I am bigger now (temporarily) and we still enjoy romance. He just brought me home a Valentine's Day card that talks about all the things that had to happen in the universe for us to find each other, tailor-made to be the perfect one for each other.

Pain is inevitable. Misery is optional.

~Susan


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Subject: RE: BS: Why did god make me fat?
From: wysiwyg
Date: 14 Feb 02 - 06:01 PM

And PS, if you want to know "Why did god make me fat?" then you have to ask God that and then listen for the answer.

~S~


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Subject: RE: BS: Why did god make me fat?
From: Jolene
Date: 14 Feb 02 - 06:14 PM

I have a full set of bookmarks and I am willing to share them via PM.

Please, I would appreciate it. Guess it's time to stop lurking, and join in the fun.


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Subject: RE: BS: Why did god make me fat?
From: wysiwyg
Date: 14 Feb 02 - 06:16 PM

OK. Remind me if you do not get them by Monday-- it gets busy now for several days. PM me now so the message sits there and reminds me, OK?

~S~


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Subject: RE: BS: Why did god make me fat?
From: Mad4Mud
Date: 14 Feb 02 - 06:17 PM

Guess it's time to stop lurking, and join in the fun

Watch out SS, I think you just found your hobby! *BG*

Welcome!


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Subject: RE: BS: Why did god make me fat?
From: SharonA
Date: 14 Feb 02 - 06:17 PM

Ms. Stone: Thanks for answering my post. I'm glad to see that I was under the wrong impression! (You'll notice, as you come across other posts of mine in the Forum, that I tend to take people very literally! To me, "never"=never-for-the-rest-of-eternity. *G* Sorry!)

Yeah, I remember having those dreams of marriage-and-motherhood as a girl, too... dreams we were encouraged by society to have! Recently, I watched a PBS special on TV about the Miss America pageant, and it included a clip of a pageant finalists during the 1960's, answering Bert Parks's interview questions by saying that they aspired to marry and have children and be good wives. One young woman was shown stating the opinion that women were wrong to expect to be paid at the same rate as men for the same work. Eek!

Well, that was then and this is now. And now (thank goodness) we no longer tell all the little girls of America that a career is a booby prize for failing to win a man!

Okay, so it's Valentine's Day and you don't have a husband (me neither!) (and yeah, I've got "issues", too!). So call up some relatives and/or some friends and tell them that you love 'em.. and, as Kim C says, don't forget to tell yourself while you're at it!

Have a good night,
Sharon


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Subject: RE: BS: Why did god make me fat?
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 14 Feb 02 - 06:23 PM

"more of a gentleman than you let on."

HEY!! That's SLANDER!!! I am NOT a gentleman!!

You take that back!! LOL!!

Yer ruining my bad reputation!

Hehehehe

.-)


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Subject: RE: BS: Why did god make me fat?
From: Jolene
Date: 14 Feb 02 - 06:23 PM

Ok, how in the name of St. Valentine do you send a PM? Somebody help me out here? Please?


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Subject: RE: BS: Why did god make me fat?
From: MMario
Date: 14 Feb 02 - 06:28 PM

sharon - I remember that particular interview - as seven women in my family boo-ed loud and long at the tv screen!


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Subject: RE: BS: Why did god make me fat?
From: Jolene
Date: 14 Feb 02 - 06:33 PM

Never mind, I figured it out. PM on its way, WYSIWYG.

So many responses, I can't respond to them all. I do appreciate the warmth shown, though.

Do I have to give my musical resume or anything, since this is after all a music forum? Just curious how these things are done.


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Subject: RE: BS: Why did god make me fat?
From: katlaughing
Date: 14 Feb 02 - 06:43 PM

You can find a book, online, called Your Health Is In Your Hands. It will explain, in clear detail, why most of America is overweight AND, if you want to bring God into it, the author is a Christian, and includes many quotes from the Bible about eating a "live" diet of fruits, vegetables, seeds, legumes, and water. There is also a cookbook which is available. Once you read about what goes into most food production and the cost to our health and planet, you may find yourself choosing differnt foods.

BUT, it is also what goes on inside your head. It's about self-love, filling a need, eating for our emotions, literally "letting our emotions eat us" as in the long run the dis-eases it can cause will do so. A good acupuncturist can help you with these, as well as other wholistic practitioners who are good listeners as well as teachers.


kat


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Subject: RE: BS: Why did god make me fat?
From: wysiwyg
Date: 14 Feb 02 - 06:48 PM

I just learned a new trick with bookmarks. Oy!

Why did God make me a motormouse?

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Subject: RE: BS: Why did god make me fat?
From: GUEST
Date: 14 Feb 02 - 06:49 PM

I just had an intestinal complaint. I didn't eat for three days. I lost five pounds. That's eat..eat less..lose weight..simple.


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Subject: RE: BS: Why did god make me fat?
From: SharonA
Date: 14 Feb 02 - 06:50 PM

Ms. Stone: No, you're not required to give your musical resumé, but you're welcome to do so if you like! It would be nice to know about the types of music you like to listen to, sing and/or play so that, if someone has a question on a subject you're familiar with, that person can PM you. Also, if a thread is started on a musical subject we think you might enjoy chatting about, and you haven't posted to it, we can PM you to direct you to it in case you missed it!

So what floats your musical boat?


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Subject: RE: BS: Why did god make me fat?
From: Jolene
Date: 14 Feb 02 - 06:54 PM

So that's the key...repeating things three times...like Dorothy.

I wish I were thin...

I wish I were thin...

I wish I were thin...


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Subject: RE: BS: Why did god make me fat?
From: GUEST,mgarvey@pacifier.com
Date: 14 Feb 02 - 07:00 PM

Don't let anyone tell you there is no such thing as a metabolic problem. That's really about all there is for many many people and it is a phase of diabetes. Do a google search under high insulin levels and Syndrome X, and then read Dr. Bernstein's Diabetes Solution (on the internet) and try to get hold of Protein Power and the Swartzbien Principal at a bookstore. There is all sorts of research, done by major professors and doctors and major universities, that shows that many many people have the above mentioned tendency to put on weight because (a) their genetic heritage (b) their exercise level and (C) their consumption of carbohydrates (excluding green and some other vegetables and (d) consumption of trans fats. Most overweight people can take weight off fairly easily by following a Protein Power/Bernstein/Swartzbien type plan. The gist is to get your insulin levels down down down by cutting out unneccessary carbohydrates (bad ones..like white flour, sugar etc.) Eat butter, olive oil and walnut oil and perhaps flax oil (controversial) for oils..oh and coconut oil too. Eat all the meat (organic, grass fed if possible) you need. Eat all the green and salad and some other vegetables (books will tell you which to avoid) you can. Eat fruit in moderation and don't drink fruit juice. Get a glucose monitor and monitor your blood sugar. Get your insulin level tested (fasted). Thinking now is that the purpose of insulin is not to control blood sugar, but to put on fat for the winter, or for famine times. Drop the insulin levels, you will likely drop the fat, or at least not continue to gain, if that is a problem. Drink 8 or so cups of water a day. Consider that you very likely have a phase of diabetes but it might not be diagnosed for another 20 years or so. Catch it now. This is not medical advice so consult with everyone you can think of. Not diet advice either..just health advice that has not reached many doctors or nutritionists etc. but is in many medical journals and floods the popular press. (also, sprinkle cinnamon on some food each day. It is supposed to be very effective in cases of insulin resistance.) mg (p.s. I am struggling with this myself...it does work and I am not gaining weight but some people, and I am in this category as I get older, have to get carbs down to practically zero (not counting the vegetables) in order to shake off the weight.) It should be easier when you are younger. Also, be sure to get out in the sunshine each day and get as much fresh air as you can.


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Subject: RE: BS: Why did god make me fat?
From: Dave Wynn
Date: 14 Feb 02 - 07:02 PM

Guest, 17 Stone,

God made me 10st 7LBs until I was about 30 years old then He changed His mind and liked me at 16st. I thought about that for a while and found that while that was where He wanted me , it wasn't where I wanted to be.

So I decided that God would love me just as much even if I weighed less so I agreed a compromise with Him and with help and a liitle effort I worked my weight down to 14 St. I am happy and so I presume He is.

The moral. Do what makes you happy and if it takes a little effort He will help (and judging by the response to this thread so will Mudcat)

Spot (who as of this morning boasts 13st 11Lbs)


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Subject: RE: BS: Why did god make me fat?
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 14 Feb 02 - 07:03 PM

Just make sure you don't mis-type and wish yourself tin!

:-)


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Subject: RE: BS: Why did god make me fat?
From: Anahootz
Date: 14 Feb 02 - 07:05 PM

FISH! EAT FISH!

Millions of skinny japanese can't be wrong.


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Subject: RE: BS: Why did god make me fat?
From: GUEST
Date: 14 Feb 02 - 07:06 PM

No..it's not that complicated honestly. Eat less,do more,lose weight. Now,repeat after me....and then all that industry that makes money out of saying it's not your fault will have to find another fall guy.


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