Carrick Fergus

Subject: Carrick Fergus
From: George MacDonald
Date: 21 Feb 98 - 06:35 PM

Is there any place on the WWW where you can get the actual notes to folksongs. I would like to get the notes to Carrick Fergus for my harp playing daughter. Any ideas?

Subject: RE: Carrick Fergus
From: Joe Offer
Date: 22 Feb 98 - 01:53 AM

Well, George, if you have MIDI software like Noteworthy composer or Cakewalk or any number of other programs, you can print out music from the many MIDI arrangements that are available on the Web.
In fact, you should be able to get the tune right here from our database by putting "Carrickfergus" in the box at the upper right corner of this page. Unfortunately, the link does not seem to be working. Maybe, if we all clear our throats and say "ahem" at the same time, Magic Max will swoop down and fix the link.
Didn't work, eh? Well, let me point you to a couple of other sites that have your song. Try here; or perhaps you'd prefer here, which might be a little faster. They're both the same MIDI file, and I don't particularly like it. Might sound a lot better on a harp, though. Hope that helps.
In the meantime, keep clearing your throat, and maybe Magic Max will get the hint.
-Joe Offer-

Subject: RE: Carrick Fergus
From: leprechaun
Date: 22 Feb 98 - 02:40 AM

George- I love Carrickfergus, and I bet your daughter makes it sound magnificent.

Subject: RE: Carrick Fergus
From: Helen
Date: 22 Feb 98 - 03:13 AM

George,

Do you know about the harp mailing list, an e-mail based group? You can subscribe by e-mailing [e-mail] and then join the e-mail chat through [e-mail].

They are a wonderful bunch of people, (although so far I have met only one in the flesh), and new members are encouraged to join. We discuss lots of issues, techniques, and sources of information, events, etc etc.

Helen

PS Carrickfergus is one of my favourites too.

Subject: RE: Carrick Fergus
From: Alice
Date: 22 Feb 98 - 10:12 AM

George, If all else fails, leave a message for me here:

http://www.mcn.net/~acflynn

and I will email music notation to you. alice, montana

Subject: RE: Carrick Fergus
From: Alice
Date: 22 Feb 98 - 11:23 AM

George, In case this is faster than the email route, I have posted the music here:

http://www.mcn.net/~acflynn/Carrick.html

the resolution is a little fuzzy, but it is printable. It is in a key for a man's voice to sing, so your daughter may want to transpose it up or play the first part an octave higher. Hope this helps. Alice

Subject: RE: Carrick Fergus
From: Bruce O.
Date: 22 Feb 98 - 03:53 PM

Someone mentioned on a recent thread that I can't relocate an apparent Gaelic original song to the tune "Carrick Fergus" supposedly older than that in the links that Joe Offer posted above (which is from "Waly waly/ Water is wide" with some new verses). Does anyone have this"? I haven't yet found the "Carrick Fergus" c 1760, that I requested on a thread of this title some time ago. The tune for this is a different "Carrick Fergus", of c 1760, is earliest known as "The Small Pin Cushion", then 1768, "Haste to the Wedding".

Subject: RE: Carrick Fergus
From: Alice
Date: 23 Feb 98 - 12:30 AM

I would be interested to know, also. Bringing this to the top.

Subject: RE: Carrick Fergus
From: Wolfgang Hell
Date: 23 Feb 98 - 05:08 AM

there's a place in the web that has the notes to Carrickfergus (and several other folksongs)
Wolfgang

Subject: RE: Carrick Fergus
From: MM
Date: 23 Feb 98 - 07:14 PM

Best place to ask is on the Gaeilge-B listserv. Subscribe by sending a message saying just

SUBSCRIBE GAEILGE-A yourname yoursurname

to

[e-mail]

and ask for the words in Irish. Someone's sure to have them.

Subject: RE: Carrick Fergus
From: Norris (Alice in Montana's Friend )
Date: 25 Feb 98 - 08:13 PM

Alice keeps telling me about this group - after all her rave reviews, let me try a question, if I might.

Alice sent me a song which included the noun "norris" - given my name (and its Celtic origins), maybe someone could tell me what a "norris" is?? (I've tried all the online - and library - dictionaries to no avail.)

Maybe I won't want to know (a monster?) but I gotta know!

Thanks, everyone!

Subject: RE: Carrick Fergus
From:
Date: 13 Mar 04 - 11:00 PM

I would like to know who compose the song CArrick Fergus>

Subject: RE: Carrick Fergus
From:
Date: 14 Mar 04 - 10:17 AM

It is one of those songs to which the author's name is lost in the mists of time. It is certainly considered Traditional by all I know.

However, please read through the various threads and perhaps one of them might have a clue as to the author's name.

Subject: RE: Carrick Fergus
From: Canberra Chris
Date: 14 Mar 04 - 05:41 PM

Just check the Mudcat thread archive on Carrickfergus for a great exposition on the extraordinary real story of the origin of this song. It is an amazing piece of detective work by Mudcatters. I won't spoil it by revealing what they discovered!
Chris

Subject: RE: Carrick Fergus
From: greg stephens
Date: 15 Mar 04 - 08:52 AM

Norris is Scottish English (or Scots) for "nurse", but that doesnt mean that it is necessarily the origin of the name Norris in all cases (or any cases, for that matter). For example, somebody told me once that Norrish and Morrish are both Anglicisation of European Jewish names.

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I closed this thread in an attempt to avoid splitting the discussion. Please post here (click) or in one of the related threads listed in the crosslinks toward the top of this page.
Thanks.
-Joe Offer-