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BS: Okay, I'll do it Little Hawk...

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Subject: Okay, I'll do it Little Hawk...
From: gnu
Date: 08 Sep 01 - 07:46 PM

I figured Little Hawk or some other Trekkie nut would bring this up. I'm not a Trekkie fanatic, although I did watch a lot of "The Next Generation" because it was on at suppertime and my ex was an "enthusiast". Guess I figured that with all the threads about whatshisname lately, there would be one about this, which I heard on the radio today.

Thirty years ago today, the first episode of Star Trek was aired.

gnightgnu


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Subject: RE: BS: Okay, I'll do it Little Hawk...
From: AliUK
Date: 08 Sep 01 - 07:58 PM

now if this isn't traditional I don't know what is! Yes, today was the day 30 years ago, that famous split infifnitive was first heard.


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Subject: RE: BS: Okay, I'll do it Little Hawk...
From: Little Hawk
Date: 08 Sep 01 - 08:04 PM

gnu - I am not a "Trekkie nut", I'm just a shit disturber with a warped sense of humour. I do, however, admit to a certain fondness for Star Trek. The original show was far more imaginative than its competition...for the 60's...and the Next Generation edition was a superb show which presented the only truly just and sensible social order I've ever seen presented on North American television...

No money, full employment, equality of opportunity, free education at all levels, no commercial advertising, no friggin' political parties (but elected officials, yes!), an equal standard of living for all federation citizens (and a good one!), free medical care for all, no life insurance cos who needs it in a system like that...

Boy, talk about subversive! McCarthy would have had those screenwriters up in front of Congress right fast!

Resistance is NOT futile, they just like you to think it is.

- LH


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Subject: RE: BS: Okay, I'll do it Little Hawk...
From: sophocleese
Date: 08 Sep 01 - 08:21 PM

See Little Hawk I tend to think that Dr. Who was pretty damn imaginative. However I only got to watch that on sporadic visits to cousins in England. Dr. Who did suffer from a lack of William Shatner in the lead role, though.


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Subject: RE: BS: Okay, I'll do it Little Hawk...
From: Little Hawk
Date: 08 Sep 01 - 08:49 PM

Interesting point, Sophocleese. Had S**tner played the lead role in Doctor Who it would have had profound effects on the whole field of British acting, I'm sure. Effects that would still resonate today.

They...would have...started talking like...this!

Wow. The mind boggles.

- LH


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Subject: RE: BS: Okay, I'll do it Little Hawk...
From: GUEST
Date: 08 Sep 01 - 09:21 PM

Yet no cure for baldness, go figger.

>>No money, full employment, equality of opportunity, free education at all levels, no commercial advertising, no friggin' political parties (but elected officials, yes!), an equal standard of living for all federation citizens (and a good one!), free medical care for all, no life insurance cos who needs it in a system like that... <<


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Subject: RE: BS: Okay, I'll do it Little Hawk...
From: khandu
Date: 08 Sep 01 - 10:04 PM

I still think Bill is sexier than Swap!!!!

khandu


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Subject: RE: BS: Okay, I'll do it Little Hawk...
From: Mountain Dog
Date: 08 Sep 01 - 11:33 PM

LH - Doesn't that mean that a Shatner Dr. Who...have...sounded...like...a...Dalek?!? The mind does indeed boggle!


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Subject: RE: BS: Okay, I'll do it Little Hawk...
From: gnu
Date: 09 Sep 01 - 04:28 AM

Cure for baldness ? CURE ? Hair is not a gotta. Besides, I gotta a "cure". It's called a hat.

LH... my apologies... Trekkie nut does sound too... too... emphatic... don'tyouthinkso, Bones ?

Arrrggghhh... more tea, Scotty, my drive is warped an I canna function prrrroperly this early in the morning.


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Subject: RE: BS: Okay, I'll do it Little Hawk...
From: black walnut
Date: 09 Sep 01 - 08:05 AM

I agree. The amount of hair one has or doesn't have is not something to be 'cured'.

Woof.


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Subject: RE: BS: Okay, I'll do it Little Hawk...
From: CarolC
Date: 09 Sep 01 - 08:18 AM

I would like to point out, yet once again, that the most glabrous of Star Trek captains, Patrick Stewart (aka Capt. Picard), is/was a very sexy man. I actually think he's sexier bald than he would be with hair.


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Subject: RE: BS: Okay, I'll do it Little Hawk...
From: black walnut
Date: 09 Sep 01 - 08:40 AM

Absolutely right on, Carol.


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Subject: RE: BS: Okay, I'll do it Little Hawk...
From: Banjer
Date: 09 Sep 01 - 09:01 AM

Major breakthrough.....Something to keep hair IN!!!








a paper bag!


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Subject: RE: BS: Okay, I'll do it Little Hawk...
From: Little Hawk
Date: 09 Sep 01 - 11:30 AM

Carol - I agree. Patrick Stewart was the ultimate starship captain. So totally classy as to be in a class by himself, in fact.

But...he doesn't...(meaningful look)...talk like...(meaningful gesture)...this! Does he...Bones?

- LH


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Subject: RE: BS: Okay, I'll do it Little Hawk...
From: CarolC
Date: 09 Sep 01 - 11:54 AM

LH, no, thank the stars. Nice word, glabrous, though, don't you think?


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Subject: RE: BS: Okay, I'll do it Little Hawk...
From: Little Hawk
Date: 09 Sep 01 - 06:54 PM

Indeed. It's a splendid word, Carol.

- LH


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Subject: RE: BS: Okay, I'll do it Little Hawk...
From: flattop
Date: 09 Sep 01 - 08:39 PM

Ralph Glaber, a monk from Burgundy, who wrote a five-volume history of his times, wrote his history with these questions in mind. He entered his first monastery in 997, scarcely twelve years old, and he seems to have been a character, which set him aside from his fellow monks. In the course of fifty years he was shown the door of six monasteries. On the other hand, not being confined entirely to a monastic life, his wanderings provided him with a wonderful patchwork of perspectives.

In the lead-up to the year one thousand, Glaber gathered reports of a terrifying comet that had crossed the sky:

"It appeared in the month of September, not long after nightfall and remained visible for nearly three months.

"Whether it is a new star, or an increase in the brightness of another star as decided by God no one can tell, but what was established with the greatest degree of certainty is that this phenomenon in the sky never appears to men without being the sure sign of some mysterious and terrible event."

Indeed very soon after, fire consumed the great church of St Michael the Archangel, off the coast of Brittany.

And Glabor continues,

" In the seventh year from the millennium almost all of the cities of Italy and Gaul were devastated by violent conflagrations and Rome itself was largely razed by fire.

The people, en mass, gave out a terrible scream and turned to rush to confess their sins to the Prince of the Apostles."

By the way, the portentous comet of 989 was Haley's comet.

Glaber, in his dreams had met the Devil who appeared at the end of his bed several times. The devil whispered seditious thoughts in an attempt to subvert the holy man.

"Why do monks bother with vigils, fasts and mortifications?

"One day, one hour of repentance, is all you need to earn eternal bliss – so why bother to rise at the sound of the bell when you could go on sleeping?

These words were uttered 1000 years ago to a monk, but are they not familiar to us today? How often do we hear the words,

"I don't need to go to church.

"I don't need to be forever vigilant and on my best behaviour.

"I've repented of my sins, I've a clean slate."

www.stagnes.org.au/sermons/SecondLetterOfStPeterDec99.html


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Subject: RE: BS: Okay, I'll do it Little Hawk...
From: Amos
Date: 09 Sep 01 - 09:20 PM

Can't quite see the connection -- lack of hair shirt? Also note that the Latin preceded the monk by a good stretch...

gla•brous (glE2brús) adj. 1. Having no hairs, projections, or pubescence; smooth: a glabrous scalp; glabrous leaves. [ From Latin glaber glabr- bald] gla2brous•ness n.


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Subject: RE: BS: Okay, I'll do it Little Hawk...
From: flattop
Date: 09 Sep 01 - 09:34 PM

According to Funk's interesting etimologies, the english word came from Glaber the monk's shaved head.


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Subject: RE: BS: Okay, I'll do it Little Hawk...
From: flattop
Date: 09 Sep 01 - 09:37 PM

And I'll take a good story over scientific evidence any day.


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Subject: RE: BS: Okay, I'll do it Little Hawk...
From: CarolC
Date: 09 Sep 01 - 09:46 PM

While I was looking around in my Encyclopedia of Word and Phrase Origins for that word (without success, I might add), I came across this interesting little bit of information...

goddam. English-speaking people have been quick on the draw with curses since earliest times. So often did the English in medieval times take the Lord's name in vain, for example, that the French called them goddams.

Later, in the American Southeast, Indians gave the Anglos the same name for the same reason. Cape Cod fishermen of Portuguese descent often bestowed nicknames on each other and used the nicknames so consistently that they virtually replaced the surnames of the families concerned after several generations.

One family, for example, became known as the Codfishes, another as the Rats. The most extreme example recorded is the Goddams.

See also LES SOMMOBICHES.


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Subject: RE: BS: Okay, I'll do it Little Hawk...
From: flattop
Date: 10 Sep 01 - 07:20 AM

Yes, Ralph Glaber probably got his name from another smart-assed monk who was proud of his Latin. I know that I don't have much of a case.

Funk also wrote that trivia came from tri via, three roads, an intersection near Rome where women gathered to talk on the way to market. Couldn't be wrong about that one, could he?

And grammar/glamour being the same word at one time when it was glamorous to know grammar?


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Subject: RE: BS: Okay, I'll do it Little Hawk...
From: GUEST,Scabby Doug at work
Date: 10 Sep 01 - 10:10 AM

Ermm not wishing to be a parade-rainer, and respecting the Trekness or non-Trekness of all concerned..

Ermm it's a lot longer than 30 years since Start Trek first aired...

It was made in the 60's and even made it to the UK before 1970.

I haven't looked it up yet but I can remember the first series in UK.

Cheers

Steven


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Subject: RE: BS: Okay, I'll do it Little Hawk...
From: CarolC
Date: 10 Sep 01 - 10:16 AM

By golly, Scabby Doug, that's damn fine point. Wonder what Captain Kirk would do in a crisis situation like this one?


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Subject: RE: BS: Okay, I'll do it Little Hawk...
From: Little Hawk
Date: 10 Sep 01 - 10:25 AM

He'd consult Spock, of course, for the definitive and completely logical explanation.

- LH


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Subject: RE: BS: Okay, I'll do it Little Hawk...
From: gnu
Date: 10 Sep 01 - 02:08 PM

Maybe the radio announcer said thirty-five years and I didn't catch it. I'm not much of a Trekkie nut... enjoyed a lot of the "Next Generation" because the reruns were on at 1700h and my ex and I ate supper in front of the tube because she liked it, but never saw much of the others.


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Subject: RE: BS: Okay, I'll do it Little Hawk...
From: Little Hawk
Date: 10 Sep 01 - 02:27 PM

He probably did say 35 years. Seems to me it was around '65 or '66...maybe even '67, when the show first aired. As for "Next Generation", it was by far the best of the lot, IMO.

- LH


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Subject: RE: BS: Okay, I'll do it Little Hawk...
From: Burke
Date: 10 Sep 01 - 09:04 PM

35 years. Here's the official list.


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Subject: RE: BS: Okay, I'll do it Little Hawk...
From: catspaw49
Date: 10 Sep 01 - 11:11 PM

Gee, Shatner knew he was in trouble long ago.....Note that they named an episode after ME!!!! CLICK

Spaw


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Subject: RE: BS: Okay, I'll do it Little Hawk...
From: GUEST,JohnB
Date: 11 Sep 01 - 12:37 PM

We all make mistakes, as the Dalek said climbing off the dustbin ;) JohnB


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