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Lyr Req: My Way (C Francois, J Revaux, P Anka)

Llanfair 21 Jul 01 - 09:33 AM
George Seto - af221@chebucto.ns.ca 21 Jul 01 - 10:31 AM
Rick Fielding 21 Jul 01 - 12:06 PM
McGrath of Harlow 21 Jul 01 - 01:54 PM
Cobble 21 Jul 01 - 02:01 PM
Lyrical Lady 21 Jul 01 - 02:01 PM
dick greenhaus 21 Jul 01 - 11:33 PM
Bill D 22 Jul 01 - 12:02 PM
McGrath of Harlow 22 Jul 01 - 01:21 PM
Allan C. 22 Jul 01 - 03:54 PM
McGrath of Harlow 22 Jul 01 - 05:27 PM
McGrath of Harlow 22 Jul 01 - 05:35 PM
Les from Hull 23 Jul 01 - 12:29 PM
pattyClink 23 Jul 01 - 02:44 PM
Llanfair 23 Jul 01 - 04:56 PM
Burke 23 Jul 01 - 09:32 PM
Marion 23 Jul 01 - 10:33 PM
Mark Cohen 23 Jul 01 - 11:00 PM
Mountain Dog 23 Jul 01 - 11:17 PM
Llanfair 24 Jul 01 - 04:28 AM
McGrath of Harlow 24 Jul 01 - 07:17 AM
M.Ted 24 Jul 01 - 01:53 PM
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Subject: Request 'My Way'
From: Llanfair
Date: 21 Jul 01 - 09:33 AM

On Thursday, during our music night,(which turned out to be more diverse than usual) the drunk in the corner asked me to sing "My Way". I smiled and apologised for not knowing the song or how to play it (to avoid any thoughts of accompanying him whilst he sang it!)
My initial reaction was annoyance that this guy wanted to hear a crass song like that, and that he didn't understand about the folk and blues that we were playing, but when Ian was doing the Chicken song, I realised that our philosophy of accepting all kinds of music and encouragement of musicians of all abilities should have included his request.
I really hate that song, and it's associations, but is it the folk music of the future?
Did drunks ask wandering minstrels to play greensleeves all the time, when they really wanted to get to grips with the most up-to-date ballads?
I feel bad for refusing him, and worse for despising his taste in music.
Opinions, Please!!
Cheers, Bron.


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Subject: RE: Request 'My Way'
From: George Seto - af221@chebucto.ns.ca
Date: 21 Jul 01 - 10:31 AM

I'm not a singer normally, but on occasion I put it on if there is a request. I may not like the song any more, but.... It's a request.

I feel that if there isn't a really good reason for not doing it, then I feel it should be done.

IF you don't have the words, or the tune in the head or some other reason like that.


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Subject: RE: Request 'My Way'
From: Rick Fielding
Date: 21 Jul 01 - 12:06 PM

I hear ya Bron. For years I privately made fun of similar requests (and sadly, the folks that made them). It was a snotty attitude, and I should have known better. My personal "non-favourites" were "Green Green Grass of Home, Please Release me, and King of the Road". One day for no apparent reason I started thinking "If these songs are SO meaningful to so many people, then they must be affecting them the same way Leadbelly or Jimmie Rogers or Hank Williams affected me."

It got me to thinking how THOSE artists who mean so much to me, would have handled similar requests. The answer that I came up with, was that they'd probably have SUNG 'em if they could, and if not, would have politely declined. Got rid of my "folkier than thou" attitude, around that time.

'Course Sid Vicious made "My Way" HIS song (no Sinatra or Paul Anka in HIS version)

Rick


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Subject: RE: Request 'My Way'
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 21 Jul 01 - 01:54 PM

I see that the song is credited to "Paul Anka, Jacques Revaux, Claude Francois", so presumably the man responsible for "I ate it up and spit it out" and so forth is" is Paul Anka.

It occurs to me that the word of the original song in French are likely to be significantly better. Maybe somebody would like to find them and post them. It'd provide an alternative way of dealing with this kind of situation to be able to offer to sing it in French.


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Subject: RE: Request 'My Way'
From: Cobble
Date: 21 Jul 01 - 02:01 PM

From the Oxford English dictionary. Folk Song: a song of popular or traditional origin or style. Seems like anything goes, Cobble.


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Subject: RE: Request 'My Way'
From: Lyrical Lady
Date: 21 Jul 01 - 02:01 PM

'My Way' in Spanish is beautiful ... you hear it in Mexico all the time. I have sung it at lots of funerals and also for my sweet friend on her 100th birthday! It seems to speak to people of a certain generation ... they want to hear it so I sing it for them!

LL


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Subject: Lyr Add: MY WAY (C Francois, J Revaux, P Anka)
From: dick greenhaus
Date: 21 Jul 01 - 11:33 PM

MY WAY
Writer(s): Claude Francois, Jacques Revaux, Paul Anka

And now, the end is near;
And so I face the final curtain.
My friend, I’ll say it clear,
I’ll state my case, of which I’m certain.
I’ve lived a life that’s full.
I’ve traveled each and ev’ry highway;
But more, much more than this,
I did it my way.

Regrets, I’ve had a few;
But then again, too few to mention.
I did what I had to do
And saw it through without exemption.
I planned each charted course;
Each careful step along the byway,
But more, much more than this,
I did it my way.

Yes, there were times, I’m sure you knew
When I bit off more than I could chew.
But through it all, when there was doubt,
I ate it up and spit it out.
I faced it all and I stood tall;
And did it my way.

I’ve loved, I’ve laughed and cried.
I’ve had my fill; my share of losing.
And now, as tears subside,
I find it all so amusing.
To think I did all that;
And may I say - not in a shy way,
"No, oh no not me,
I did it my way".

For what is a man, what has he got?
If not himself, then he has naught.
To say the things he truly feels;
And not the words of one who kneels.
The record shows I took the blows -
And did it my way!

(A good intro for Bob Blue's brilliant parody "Their Way")


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Subject: RE: Request 'My Way'
From: Bill D
Date: 22 Jul 01 - 12:02 PM

brilliant, indeed! it seems to be in the database and I KNOW has been posted, but I am having trouble with supersearch right now, so here is another link to "Their Way"


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Subject: RE: Request 'My Way'
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 22 Jul 01 - 01:21 PM

Yes, but that's just Anka's vandalised version in English. How did the original version go?


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Subject: RE: Request 'My Way'
From: Allan C.
Date: 22 Jul 01 - 03:54 PM

I can't speak or even read French and so I can't be certain. But I believe that I may have found what you are seeking. If I am seeing it rightly, the name of the original song is "Comme d'habitude" and can be found here


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Subject: RE: Request 'My Way'
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 22 Jul 01 - 05:27 PM

Got it - thanks Allan. The "translate" facility (courtesy of Babelfish) gives an idea of what the song's about. So it turns out Anka's version isn't actually a translation, but rather itb is a total rewrite with a completely different plot, and a much less interesting situation.

So instead of being a song about a pompous selfcentred and self-satisfied arrogant monster, the original turns out to be about a poor wretch devoted to a lover who is totally indifferent. A much much better song. Maybe someone should try translating it.

But it wouldn't go down so well at funerals I suppose.


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Subject: Lyr Add: COMME D'HABITUDE
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 22 Jul 01 - 05:35 PM

Je me lève
Et je te bouscule
Tu ne te réveilles pas
Comme d'habitude
Sur toi je remonte le drap
J'ai peur que tu aies froid
Comme d'habitude
Ma main caresse tes cheveux
Presque malgré moi
Comme d'habitude
Mais toi tu me tournes le dos
Comme d'habitude

Alors je m'habille très vite
Je sors de la chambre
Comme d'habitude
Tout seul je bois mon café
Je suis en retard
Comme d'habitude
Sans bruit je quitte la maison
Tout est gris dehors
Comme d'habitude
J'ai froid je relève mon col
Comme d'habitude

Comme d'habitude
Toute la journée
Je vais jouer à faire semblant
Comme d'habitude
Je vais sourire
Comme d'habitude
Je vais même rire
Comme d'habitude
Enfin je vais vivre
Comme d'habitude

Et puis le jour s'en ira
Moi je reviendrai
Comme d'habitude
Tu seras sortie
Et pas encore rentrée
Comme d'habitude
Tout seul j'irai me coucher
Dans ce grand lit froid
Comme d'habitude
Mes larmes je les cacherai
Comme d'habitude

Comme d'habitude
Même la nuit
Je vais jouer à faire semblant
Comme d'habitude
Tu rentreras
Comme d'habitude
Je t'attendrai
Comme d'habitude
Tu me souriras
Comme d'habitude

Comme d'habitude
Tu te déshabillera
Comme d'habitude
Tu te coucheras
Comme d'habitude
On s'embrassera
Comme d'habitude


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Subject: RE: Request 'My Way'
From: Les from Hull
Date: 23 Jul 01 - 12:29 PM

Bron - you can just about sing Wild Rover to the tune of My Way and get rid of two of them for the price of one!


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Subject: RE: Request 'My Way'
From: pattyClink
Date: 23 Jul 01 - 02:44 PM

Learn it in Spanish, it's beautiful. I don't have a link handy but I have found it on the net. Search lyric databases for "A Mi Manera", hear it on disc by Gipsy Kings.

I feel for your predicament. As much as I'd like other people to oblige sincere requests from the hapless or clueless or lonely, I have my own skin-crawling versions I can't help with. The despicable Kenny Rogers. The 'ya know any James Taylor?'


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Subject: RE: Request 'My Way'
From: Llanfair
Date: 23 Jul 01 - 04:56 PM

I suppose I get cross because the person with the request is obviously not listening to what is going on, but wants to be a part of the action. I had already played "Annies Song" for him to sing, which he did in true pub drunk style!!!!
I'll try to be more tolerant!!! Since I finished work I seem to have much less patience with people!!!
Cheers, Bron the ratty!!!!


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Subject: RE: Request 'My Way'
From: Burke
Date: 23 Jul 01 - 09:32 PM

It's just a completely different set of words by Gilles Thibaut.

Anka must have liked the tune by Jacques Revaux et Claude François & written his own words.


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Subject: RE: Request 'My Way'
From: Marion
Date: 23 Jul 01 - 10:33 PM

Llanfair, you might want to see also the discussion in this thread:

Playing What You Like or What They Want"

Marion


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Subject: RE: Request 'My Way'
From: Mark Cohen
Date: 23 Jul 01 - 11:00 PM

I'd have to hear it sung, but I can't see the words to "D'Habitude" fitting the tune to "My Way" at all. Am I missing something, or did Anka twist the tune around, too?

Aloha,
Mark


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Subject: RE: Request 'My Way'
From: Mountain Dog
Date: 23 Jul 01 - 11:17 PM

Hmmm. Is it true that Anka's middle initial is "W"...should be, anyway...


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Subject: RE: Request 'My Way'
From: Llanfair
Date: 24 Jul 01 - 04:28 AM

I thought "comme d'habitude" was "As usual", which is a direct translation, but I couldn't find the song on the lyrics site I've got. It is a completely different song!!!
Cheers, Bron.


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Subject: RE: Request 'My Way'
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 24 Jul 01 - 07:17 AM

Click on the link Allan C gave up there, Mark, and you'll see how the words go with the tune. Mind it's a horrible sounding rendition, all overblown and insensitive. The only merit is has is that you only get a brief snatch of it. I suspect that, sung more quietly and thoughtfully, comme d'habitude is probably a pretty good song.

Unlike Paul Anka's abomination.


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Subject: RE: Request 'My Way'
From: M.Ted
Date: 24 Jul 01 - 01:53 PM

No question, "My Way" is the tune we love to hate--although the "Gipsy Kings" version does redeem it--

My tastes run toward the kitschy, so no request, no matter how bizarre, was ever turned down, unless I didn't know enough of the song to play through the chorus. I have played "Sunrise, Sunset" and "Lara's Theme", sometimes, as a strolling musician, many times in the same evening.In my golden days as a "professional folksinger", I beat both "Country Roads" and "Fire and Rain" to death--they were much requested--and, much played, at least when I was the featured act. Other folks that worked the same venues that I did were amazed that I generally doubled my pay with tips--But people who have been drinking tend to be a bit loose with their money--It has been said that children and drunks keep music alive, and I am in no position to disagree with it--


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