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Subject: BS - Popeye's weird 'pronunskiations'
From: Little Hawk
Date: 06 Jul 01 - 06:06 PM

Who can remember these oddly pronounced words Popeye used? I recall the following...

presidink (president) orfink (orphan) I fights to the finish, cos I eats me spinach

Anybody got some more?

- LH


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Subject: RE: BS - Popeye's weird 'pronunskiations'
From: CarolC
Date: 06 Jul 01 - 07:05 PM

Coinkydincs (coincidence). That's my favorite.


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Subject: RE: BS - Popeye's weird 'pronunskiations'
From: Little Hawk
Date: 06 Jul 01 - 07:54 PM

Found some more...

disgustipated ("I yam disgustipated!")

and "ghosk" (ghost)


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Subject: RE: BS - Popeye's weird 'pronunskiations'
From: Little Hawk
Date: 06 Jul 01 - 09:03 PM

Well, people, I searched around on the Net, and found several Popeye sites which have enough info on them to fully satisfy the premise of this thread. Shoulda known...

Apparently most of the Popeye characters were based directly on real people that the writer of the comic was acquainted with! That was a surprise. He modeled Wimpy on his boss, and Popeye on a local tough guy who was small and wiry, but a very formidable fighter even against much bigger opponents. How about that!

- LH


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Subject: RE: BS - Popeye's weird 'pronunskiations'
From: catspaw49
Date: 06 Jul 01 - 09:20 PM

As a kid, I hated Popeye........I still do.

Spaw


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Subject: RE: BS - Popeye's weird 'pronunskiations'
From: Amos
Date: 06 Jul 01 - 09:23 PM

Awww Spaw...c'mon man!!! HATE Popeye??? What -- too close to the tree for yer taste?


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Subject: RE: BS - Popeye's weird 'pronunskiations'
From: Little Hawk
Date: 06 Jul 01 - 09:23 PM

That's okay, Pat, I forgive you.

- LH


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Subject: RE: BS - Popeye's weird 'pronunskiations'
From: Helen
Date: 06 Jul 01 - 09:46 PM

I don't know if this is a Popeyeism, but I like it: a friend of mine uses "eddification" instead of "education" but puts emphasis on the "fic" part making it sound like the naughty f-word.

He also used to sign off his very funny magazine feature column with "copulator" which sounds like an Oz-ism, "cop (i.e. catch) you later".

Helen


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Subject: RE: BS - Popeye's weird 'pronunskiations'
From: catspaw49
Date: 06 Jul 01 - 09:49 PM

Ya' know Amos, I never analyzed it. I liked Wimpy....a real hard nose scrounger of the first order...my kind of guy.

I'll tell you this, but don't let it get around...........I think I am one of only 9 people on the entire planet who admits to like that gawdawful "Popeye" movie. Talk about your complete tripe!!!! But for some odd reason I enjoy that stupid movie, especially the first 45 minutes. I think it's related to some genetic malfunction where out of the blue you like something when all of your senses tell you to run screaming into the night. I hate kung-fu movies and Schwarzenegger type action flicks and yet for some unfathomable reason, I'll tune in on that complete asshole Steven Seagal ANYTIME! I can't believe it myself and I have no idea why I watch!

I think ol' Neil Young is tied up in the same problem. I really don't care for him and will tune out on acoustic stuff, but I can't resist watching him as a rocker. I can never figure out whether he's playing that Les Paul or screwing it!

Spaw


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Subject: RE: BS - Popeye's weird 'pronunskiations'
From: RangerSteve
Date: 06 Jul 01 - 10:24 PM

catspaw - I also liked the Popeye movie. I also don't know why. Maybe we should consider ourselves elite.


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Subject: RE: BS - Popeye's weird 'pronunskiations'
From: John Hardly
Date: 06 Jul 01 - 10:36 PM

Elderly gentleman friend of the family says to the gathered group "I always like it when he says 'I am what I am and that's all what I am'", the implication being that he espoused that same philosophy.

My wife, oblivious to his deeper meaning, happily replied "Yeah, and I love it when he says 'That's all I can stand and Uh can't stands no more. Uck Uck Uck'"

Sometimes the best replies are the unwitting ones.

Hate(d) Popeye too. uck uck uck.


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Subject: RE: BS - Popeye's weird 'pronunskiations'
From: Little Hawk
Date: 06 Jul 01 - 10:38 PM

Spaw, get this...

I TOTALLY LOVE THAT POPEYE MOVIE!!! I mean just LOVE IT! I consider it one of the neatest movies of all time. And I'm not sure why, but I do think the gal that played Olive Oyle (was it Shelley Duvall?) was just amazing as that character, and the rest were pretty darn good too.

I also loved Howard the Duck! I went to see it 3 times! I have never met anyone else who even admits to having seen it.

This is not so weird as you may think. I have loved comics all my life, and I knew the Popeye comics and the Howard the Duck comics (by Marvel) very well. This naturally gives me an angle on the movies in question that someone else may not have.

Steven Seagal? Get the barf bag...BLUEEUUGGHHHHH! I like Schwarzenneger.

- LH


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Subject: RE: BS - Popeye's weird 'pronunskiations'
From: catspaw49
Date: 06 Jul 01 - 10:45 PM

oh gawd.........."Howard the Duck".....a complete piece of crap with no redeeming social value whatsoever............and I LOVE IT TOO!!! Hawk, I think we need some time at the NYCFTTS.......bring RangerSteve along too based on his love of the Popeye movie...........I'll send the Insanevac chopper.

Spaw


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Subject: RE: BS - Popeye's weird 'pronunskiations'
From: Little Hawk
Date: 06 Jul 01 - 10:49 PM

LOL! This is great! If I ever visit Ohio, we must take an evening and rent those movies and have a little festival. See you at the clinic, Spaw.

You know why I like Howard so much? I always felt just like him..."trapped in a world I never made", and surrounded by large hairless apes doing incomprehensible things... Man, I know just how he feels.

- LH


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Subject: RE: BS - Popeye's weird 'pronunskiations'
From: Mark Cohen
Date: 06 Jul 01 - 11:06 PM

Careful, 'Spaw, or I'll make you watch reruns of "Popeye Theater" -- that was my favorite show as a kid. It was at 6:00 on WFIL-TV, Channel 6 in Philadelphia. The host was Sally Starr, a blonde in a cowgirl outfit, who I later found out was often soused on the set. (Fortunately, as a 6-year-old I didn't have a lot of experience with alcoholics, so I never figured that part out.) I LOVED those Popeye cartoons! Except for the Goons, those big guys with the long noses and fur around their wrists and ankles.....they really gave me the creeps! The movie? Guess I'll have to give it another try. I can't remember whether I liked it or not the first time around.

Great to have you back, Pat!

Aloha,
Mark


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Subject: RE: BS - Popeye's weird 'pronunskiations'
From: Seamus Kennedy
Date: 07 Jul 01 - 12:57 AM

Well, blow me down! Don't worry, Spaw, I'll saves ya!!I loved the movie too. Robin Williams was brilliant. I always liked Popeye's walk with the little skip-step every 4 or 5 paces, and the tune he hummed while doing it.

Seamus


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Subject: RE: BS - Popeye's weird 'pronunskiations'
From: gnu
Date: 07 Jul 01 - 05:28 AM

Always figured Popeye for a Hranner with those large forearms. Didn't he play a squeezebox, too ? Always wondered what he was smoking in that little pipe, walking around with one eye shut and the other popped. Spinach my ass. He brought back some weed from one of those sailing adventures.


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Subject: RE: BS - Popeye's weird 'pronunskiations'
From: Jeri
Date: 07 Jul 01 - 08:07 AM

I sort of liked Popeye, but I think my father liked him a lot more. One of the scariest moments I had during my life as a little kid was when I saw my dad for the first time without his teeth, and he launched into an impression of Popeye. I never blamed Popeye for that, though. It was entirely my father's fault.


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Subject: RE: BS - Popeye's weird 'pronunskiations'
From: Little Hawk
Date: 07 Jul 01 - 11:56 AM

Weed? Naw. Popeye's not the type for that. He's way too energetic and aggressive. Wimpy is the type who would enjoy smoking up if he ever got into it.

- LH


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Subject: RE: BS - Popeye's weird 'pronunskiations'
From: RWilhelm
Date: 07 Jul 01 - 12:30 PM

My favorite line from the Popeye movie is something like "I pays me taxes, I expects a little cervix."

I think what makes the Popeye movie fascinating (not necessarily good) is they went back and tried to capture the flavor of the original comic strip. The early Fleischer Brothers, black and white Popeye cartoons were the best with the great animation and funny dialog. The one-plot Popeyes of the fifties and sixties were criminally bad.


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Subject: RE: BS - Popeye's weird 'pronunskiations'
From: Don Firth
Date: 07 Jul 01 - 01:15 PM

It's been awhile since I saw the Popeye movie and I can't say that I remember it all that well, but one thing I didn't much care for was the portrayal of G. Wellington Wimpy. Back when the mists of antiquity, when I was listening to the late afternoon radio serials (Jack Armstrong, Captain Midnight, etc.), there was a short lived attempt at Popeye, and the voices stuck in my mind.

Robin Williams and Shelly Duvall were spot-on with their characterisations, but the actor who played Wimpy didn't get the character at all. Much too rough around the edges. The voice and style of expression I remember on the radio and in movie cartoons was a dead ringer for W. C. Fields (it may even have been Fields doing a voice-over). After all, Wimpy did make an attempt to come off as a cultivated gentleman. He was just suffering a long bout -- a very long bout -- of finacial embarrassment. I found the portrayal of Wimpy in the movie -- well -- fruskerating!

Don Firth


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Subject: RE: BS - Popeye's weird 'pronunskiations'
From: Amos
Date: 07 Jul 01 - 01:30 PM

I'll gladly pay you Thursday, for a hamburger today! LOL!!

Don't worry Olive Oyl!! I'll saves ya!!

LOLROTF!!

A


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Subject: RE: BS - Popeye's weird 'pronunskiations'
From: Don Firth
Date: 07 Jul 01 - 02:19 PM

Horrors!! I'm in danger of losing my trivial merit badge!!

That should be J. Wellington Wimpy.

Don Firth


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Subject: RE: BS - Popeye's weird 'pronunskiations'
From: Don Firth
Date: 07 Jul 01 - 02:20 PM

(And in addition, I can't type worth a s**t today. . . .)


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Subject: RE: BS - Popeye's weird 'pronunskiations'
From: gnu
Date: 07 Jul 01 - 02:33 PM

Amos... it's TUESDAY, no ?


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Subject: RE: BS - Popeye's weird 'pronunskiations'
From: Amos
Date: 07 Jul 01 - 02:49 PM

Oh, picky picky picky -- how much accuracy do you want over a forty year--well maybe fifty -- span?

A


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Subject: RE: BS - Popeye's weird 'pronunskiations'
From: gnu
Date: 07 Jul 01 - 04:08 PM

Seein as how I'm 44, I just like to check my memory every now and when.


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Subject: RE: BS - Popeye's weird 'pronunskiations'
From: catspaw49
Date: 07 Jul 01 - 04:30 PM

It's Tuesday.....but it's Saturday here.............and to inject another comic, did you notice that Friday the 13th actually comes on a Friday this month? Last month it came on a Wednesday.

Spaw


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Subject: RE: BS - Popeye's weird 'pronunskiations'
From: Amos
Date: 07 Jul 01 - 04:33 PM

But it was only a half-day, as I recall...

A


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Subject: RE: BS - Popeye's weird 'pronunskiations'
From: catspaw49
Date: 07 Jul 01 - 05:18 PM

I'm not sure Amos.....I DO recall it as being kinda' half-assed though..............

Spaw


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Subject: RE: BS - Popeye's weird 'pronunskiations'
From: momnopp
Date: 07 Jul 01 - 06:14 PM

Do you know that in Venezuela (and probably other Latin American countries) the "bad luck" day is TUESDAY the 13th and not Friday?

And I have fond memories of the Popeye movie as it played in the background on my first date with my son's father. . .it's one of his favorite movies. I think it's pretty mediocre (in spite of the fact that I'm CRAZY about Robin Williams), but the portrayal of the cartoon characters with real people is truly amazing.

JudyO


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Subject: RE: BS - Popeye's weird 'pronunskiations'
From: Little Hawk
Date: 07 Jul 01 - 06:21 PM

Well, this discussion has reminded me of why I like the Popeye movie so much...precisely because it is so absolutely faithful to the spirit of the original comic (or cartoon)...and I LOVE comics!

The movies that really frustrapate me are the ones which are utterly unfaithful to the original in an attempt to pander to the presumed present styles and tastes of North American 13-year-olds...like Disney's Jungle Book or Winnie-the-Pooh efforts, for example.

I agree the Wimpy character wasn't handled as well as he could have been, though...

- LH


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Subject: RE: BS - Popeye's weird 'pronunskiations'
From: Helen
Date: 07 Jul 01 - 08:52 PM

I liked the movie, too. Shelley Duvall was perfect, visually, as Olive Oyl.

Did you know that the premise that spinach made you strong was based on a printing mistake. A publication, maybe a newspaper, printed a list of sources of iron in foods and added an extra digit to the spinach amount, so instead of a small amount like 1.x, it ended up being something like 21.x. So the whole idea of Popeye and his spinach was based on one little typo.

I like the "I yam what I yam" philosophy too.

I'm really fond of the Roger Rabbit movie too - yes, I know it wasn't based on "real" cartoon characters, but I love it. Drop Dead Fred is another cartoony-movie that I love, too.

Helen


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Subject: RE: BS - Popeye's weird 'pronunskiations'
From: rangeroger
Date: 07 Jul 01 - 09:16 PM

I too am a lover of the movie. Not long after it came out, I watced an interview with Shelley Duvall and she talked about her audition for Olive Oyl.

She said it was the shoes.As soon as she put them on she went straight into Olive.She hadn't rehearsed the part and had no idea what she was going to do.Once the shoes were on she went with the flow and got the part.

Great movie.

rr


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Subject: RE: BS - Popeye's weird 'pronunskiations'
From: catspaw49
Date: 07 Jul 01 - 09:25 PM

Geez....We really are a bunch of sick puppies here aren't we?

Helen, one of our girls simply LOVED ol' Roger and that tape played about twice a day one summer.....and I confess, I like it too!

Spaw


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Subject: RE: BS - Popeye's weird 'pronunskiations'
From: Little Hawk
Date: 07 Jul 01 - 10:07 PM

Roger Rabbit is great! A unique and very amusing film.

- LH


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Subject: RE: BS - Popeye's weird 'pronunskiations'
From: Kaleea
Date: 08 Jul 01 - 01:23 PM

That's edjyewmuhkashun . . .kah, kah, kah, kah, kah!


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