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MC.Personalities. Cyber, & in the flesh.

GUEST,#1 14 Apr 01 - 01:24 AM
flattop 14 Apr 01 - 01:10 AM
Melani 14 Apr 01 - 12:55 AM
Sorcha 14 Apr 01 - 12:52 AM
GUEST,#1 14 Apr 01 - 12:44 AM
Amos 14 Apr 01 - 12:40 AM
flattop 14 Apr 01 - 12:36 AM
Sorcha 14 Apr 01 - 12:36 AM
GUEST,#1 14 Apr 01 - 12:32 AM
GUEST,#1 14 Apr 01 - 12:29 AM
GUEST,#1 14 Apr 01 - 12:23 AM
flattop 13 Apr 01 - 11:13 PM
Art Thieme 13 Apr 01 - 10:51 PM
Big Mick 13 Apr 01 - 09:57 PM
Bill D 13 Apr 01 - 09:55 PM
Big Mick 13 Apr 01 - 09:37 PM
Big Mick 13 Apr 01 - 09:26 PM
Morticia 13 Apr 01 - 08:20 PM
John Routledge 13 Apr 01 - 08:10 PM
Matt_R 13 Apr 01 - 07:46 PM
Bagpuss 13 Apr 01 - 07:42 PM
John Routledge 13 Apr 01 - 06:51 PM
Little Neophyte 13 Apr 01 - 06:31 PM
Bagpuss 13 Apr 01 - 06:03 PM
Amos 13 Apr 01 - 06:03 PM
Bagpuss 13 Apr 01 - 05:57 PM
Murray MacLeod 13 Apr 01 - 04:17 PM
Gervase 12 Apr 01 - 07:02 AM
fat B****rd 12 Apr 01 - 03:14 AM
Amergin 12 Apr 01 - 03:08 AM
Lepus Rex 12 Apr 01 - 02:55 AM
mousethief 12 Apr 01 - 02:51 AM
GUEST,#1 12 Apr 01 - 02:44 AM
Amergin 12 Apr 01 - 01:36 AM
katlaughing 12 Apr 01 - 01:33 AM
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catspaw49 11 Apr 01 - 10:39 PM
Big Mick 11 Apr 01 - 10:28 PM
Bill D 11 Apr 01 - 07:54 PM
Sorcha 11 Apr 01 - 07:52 PM
Peg 11 Apr 01 - 07:12 PM
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Amergin 11 Apr 01 - 06:28 PM
Rick Fielding 11 Apr 01 - 06:26 PM
Murray MacLeod 11 Apr 01 - 05:03 PM
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Subject: RE: MC.Personalities. Cyber, & in the flesh.
From: GUEST,#1
Date: 14 Apr 01 - 01:24 AM

Sorcha, now every asshole that wants to flame or spam you can do so. Not quite. I don't know how to fake my return email address. Nor the one I'm at now, which isn't my home one.

PS: I have no desire whatever to communicate with you (or spam you or flame you).


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Subject: RE: MC.Personalities. Cyber, & in the flesh.
From: flattop
Date: 14 Apr 01 - 01:10 AM

Well I'm not troubled by my lack of imagination but I thought I'd been naught at times. I bow to Sorcha's abilities. She's an impressive woman.

G's phrasing sounds too much like old MK but I'd hate to accuse an innocent rat bastard of that. We won't sail on those waters. No. Never.


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Subject: RE: MC.Personalities. Cyber, & in the flesh.
From: Melani
Date: 14 Apr 01 - 12:55 AM

If Spaw is more reserved in person, that's probably just as well...I really only post when I'm feeling good. Otherwise I'm too shy. I've gotten to know even people I already knew much better on Mudcat, not to mention the ones I haven't met yet. I look forward to the adventure.


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Subject: RE: MC.Personalities. Cyber, & in the flesh.
From: Sorcha
Date: 14 Apr 01 - 12:52 AM

It was easy. At my mother's knee. Just like tortillas and cannoli......and you ain't seen nuttin honey, if you think that's bad, lol. PM me if you're brave..oh, you are a Guest, aren't you? The same Guest that wants e mail addys with the post? Mine is sorchaout@hotmail, what's yours?????


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Subject: RE: MC.Personalities. Cyber, & in the flesh.
From: GUEST,#1
Date: 14 Apr 01 - 12:44 AM

I'm a success, I can still stir up ire! Just good genes, I guess. Sorcha, where did you learn such naughty language? I haven't found the gene for that yet. flattop isn't as naughty but doesn't seem to have much of an imagination gene.


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Subject: RE: MC.Personalities. Cyber, & in the flesh.
From: Amos
Date: 14 Apr 01 - 12:40 AM

The premise presented by dear old Number One is of course a flaming contradiction to the whole fundamental ofthis thread -- that individuals can have multiple facets, generated by their own powers of consciousness and creative will. Not by their bloody helices. 'Course it takes a bit more than purely material attention to be able to assess such a question realistically...


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Subject: RE: MC.Personalities. Cyber, & in the flesh.
From: flattop
Date: 14 Apr 01 - 12:36 AM

Life would be simpler if we were yeast, GUEST,#1, but sugar doesn't agree with me. As Guest the Banana you'd be a low priced commodity sandwiched into peanut butter. Jelly Fish, nah, I'm a drowner. Mutate well tonight.


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Subject: RE: MC.Personalities. Cyber, & in the flesh.
From: Sorcha
Date: 14 Apr 01 - 12:36 AM

Oh shut up #1. We know you're a cynical,flaming, trolling asshole and we don't really need more evidence.

Art, you're an Icon now, so you are entitled to have bad days I am definitely NOT an Icon and have bad days anyway. See what Life does to you?

Mick, you're right......it's War and Peace on several levels, LOL! Do we want to meet #1? I don't think I need that in my life, I have a baby duck to take up my time, (grin) Duck poop is better than #1 poop.


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Subject: RE: MC.Personalities. Cyber, & in the flesh.
From: GUEST,#1
Date: 14 Apr 01 - 12:32 AM

I guess I should have said, you ova out there, pick your lover sperm carefully. You don't want to be a jelly fish do you?


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Subject: RE: MC.Personalities. Cyber, & in the flesh.
From: GUEST,#1
Date: 14 Apr 01 - 12:29 AM

Forgot to add, Chinese, Caucasian, Negro, Aborinigie, Eskimo, etc, is determined by only 5 genes. Moral, pick your parents wisely before you allow them to conceive you.


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Subject: RE: MC.Personalities. Cyber, & in the flesh.
From: GUEST,#1
Date: 14 Apr 01 - 12:23 AM

Mudcaters different? From what? The first results from the Human Genome Project have been released. You have about 30,000 genes, and no one else differs from you by more than 30 genes. Boost that up to 3% difference and you could be a banana, yeast, or jelly fish.

Chimpanzies have been around a lot longer than humans and have much larger gene variations.

Women are born with a fixed number of ova. Males have to generate new sperm all the time, and thus have a bigger chance of mutation. Males have contributed about 2/3 of our evolution and females 1/3. Don't crow too much men, that goes for hereditary diseases as well as for the pluses.


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Subject: RE: MC.Personalities. Cyber, & in the flesh.
From: flattop
Date: 13 Apr 01 - 11:13 PM

The golden slipper Bonnie? I've never felt more like Cindrella than tonight. You were much warmer in person than at my keyboard.

Sorcha, I always thought that you were a tolerant bitch.

Little Hawk is quiet and reserved on mudcat when he's not writing, Rick.


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Subject: RE: MC.Personalities. Cyber, & in the flesh.
From: Art Thieme
Date: 13 Apr 01 - 10:51 PM

Well, I tend to post when I'm feeling best. So what you see here is not what you would always get. And when I am not feeling good I'm finally learning to keep quiet and just read a book. I'm sure Carol appreciates that. Might be why I'm here less---and less strident when I am here.

Art


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Subject: RE: MC.Personalities. Cyber, & in the flesh.
From: Big Mick
Date: 13 Apr 01 - 09:57 PM

Spaw............meet him, you will love him............and he is funnier 3D than he is here.

Mick


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Subject: RE: MC.Personalities. Cyber, & in the flesh.
From: Bill D
Date: 13 Apr 01 - 09:55 PM

lessee...gotta do the European tour...then the OZ tour....no, wait..maybe the western US tour...no,,the Canada tour!...ummmm...how 'bout I just sit here and you all come see ME? Then I'll publish reviews!...(I have Max & Bert and Dick Greenhaus and Susan of DT and many others within a few hours of here...makes this the RIGHT palce to visit!


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Subject: RE: MC.Personalities. Cyber, & in the flesh.
From: Big Mick
Date: 13 Apr 01 - 09:37 PM

SSSHHHHHEEEEEEIIIIIITTTTTT.........Almost forgot Karen K, who quite simply, is one of the nicest, sweetest, most caring people I have ever met in my entire life. Folks, when you meet her you will love her. Sweet smile as big as the whole of the outdoors..........and a heart that dwarfs her smile. Love that woman!!!!

Mick


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Subject: RE: MC.Personalities. Cyber, & in the flesh.
From: Big Mick
Date: 13 Apr 01 - 09:26 PM

My good friend, Little Neophyte should talk about the big heart. Banjo Bonnie has great talent, a wonderful will to succeed, excellent skills, a genuine love for people, great legs, and a smile to die for, ...................LOL.

When I posted my original post above I started to post my impressions of those I had met and realized that it might approach the size of War and Peace. Joe Offer is a wonderful man and has become a good friend. Peter T. is another wonderful fellow that I truly love to be around. Rick........whatta guy, and married far above his station to this walking Goddess. I love that Duckboots, and so does Ciara. Beebs, Ferrara, Bill D., Kath Westra who really has become one of my closest friends (and cute as hell, I might point out :-), Bro Barry, Allan C, Bill Sables, Sandy and Caroline (I want to be Sandy when I grow up, cuz that means I could sing like one of God's own Angels AND be married to Caroline Paton...., AND OF COURSE, my very good friends, Dan Milner and Bonnie Milner. Sheeeeeeiiiittttt, almost left out Dani who is a marvelously talented person.

Point is, that I have been surprised in almost every instance by how much more that I liked these people in person. With very few exceptions, they are everything I imagined they would be.

Max, Bert, MaryMac, Dick, Susan...........wow, fantastic people..................'cept when Dick is trying to cut off his fingers...........Told you it would be like War and Peace, and I haven't gotten to everyone yet......

Mick


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Subject: RE: MC.Personalities. Cyber, & in the flesh.
From: Morticia
Date: 13 Apr 01 - 08:20 PM

Well I've been delighted by how much the people I've met through this madhouse are just like themselves ( did that make sense?) and a throughly sound bunch of reprobates and maniacs they are too.The other noticeable thing to me was how much better people play/sing/tap dance then they mention on here.The talent in a room full of mudcatters goes off the Richter scale, ( that includes Gervase who has one of the best voices I've ever heard).It is however regrettably true about Liz...played for England a couple of times I believe, but Micca only resembles Julie Andrews when he's dressed in his nun's outfit..... ( ooops, I wasn't supposed to tell, was I?)


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Subject: RE: MC.Personalities. Cyber, & in the flesh.
From: John Routledge
Date: 13 Apr 01 - 08:10 PM

All the Catters that I have met have been slightly better in 3D than I imagined. This may be because I feel that I "know" them already and can dot i's and cross t's when face to face.

The knowledge about a person gained from Mudcat certainly speeds up forging a friendship/relationship in some cases quite dramatically.

Cheers GB


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Subject: RE: MC.Personalities. Cyber, & in the flesh.
From: Matt_R
Date: 13 Apr 01 - 07:46 PM

Face it, we're ALL Bagpuss fans!


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Subject: RE: MC.Personalities. Cyber, & in the flesh.
From: Bagpuss
Date: 13 Apr 01 - 07:42 PM

Geordie - I make it my personal mission in life to make sure there are no non-bagpuss fans in the world!

(Are you saying I sound like a grumpy old man?????????????????????????? eh?????????????)

I might be able to make the sunday of the jug gathering. My cousin is getting married on the saturday, so I'll be in durham for the day - hope to pop in on my way back home.

Bagpuss


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Subject: RE: MC.Personalities. Cyber, & in the flesh.
From: John Routledge
Date: 13 Apr 01 - 06:51 PM

Bagpuss - Your postings are very like you in real life - sentences apart. However many non-Bagpuss fans will not know who or indeed what Bagpuss is and therefore have a mental image of a grumpy old man.*BG*

Hope you can make the Jug Gathering as 3D you is much better than flatscreen you. Cheers GB


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Subject: RE: MC.Personalities. Cyber, & in the flesh.
From: Little Neophyte
Date: 13 Apr 01 - 06:31 PM

Every Mudcatter I've met seems to fit the golden slipper.
Now lets see......
I was blinded by the brilliant light of Peter T's intelligence and I would nik name him Bashful of the seven dwarfs for sure.
Jeri is a straight shooter in life too. Did you learn that in the Army Jeri? She also exuberates such warmth. She makes me feel safe and I would seek her out as a trust worthy friend.
Flattop has a dry sharp wit that is balanced with a warm attentive smile.
Mig Mick's name should be marketed in a line of Gund Teddy Bears. The man is so kind and generous, he could melt an iceberg with the love radiating off him.

There have been others I've met. That is just a starter. I must say that old saying has much truth to it.....'What you see is usually what you get'.

Little Neo


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Subject: RE: MC.Personalities. Cyber, & in the flesh.
From: Bagpuss
Date: 13 Apr 01 - 06:03 PM

I construct better sentences in real life...

Bagpuss


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Subject: RE: MC.Personalities. Cyber, & in the flesh.
From: Amos
Date: 13 Apr 01 - 06:03 PM

One big difference is that my cyber-self is madly in love with some of the gentler members of the Mudcat; but in real life, of course, that doesn't happen.

Oh, and my cyber self is planning to start a religion based on bosom worship, while my real self would never do such a thing, and even finds the notion of a Temple of the Divine Mammary a bit off...at least, off the straight and narrow! :>)

A


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Subject: RE: MC.Personalities. Cyber, & in the flesh.
From: Bagpuss
Date: 13 Apr 01 - 05:57 PM

Just wondering - any of the people who have met me IRL - I have no idea whether I come across the same online as IRL. So please tell me - was I what you expected (some people thought I was male till they met me....)?

Bagpuss


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Subject: RE: MC.Personalities. Cyber, & in the flesh.
From: Murray MacLeod
Date: 13 Apr 01 - 04:17 PM

Liz the Squeak's voice certainly doesn't sound as though it is emanating from a 6ft 4 in prop forward. Maybe that is just her speaking voice, I haven't heard her sing yet .....

Murray


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Subject: RE: MC.Personalities. Cyber, & in the flesh.
From: Gervase
Date: 12 Apr 01 - 07:02 AM

Pompous pedantic curmudgeon online, pompous pedantic curmudgeon in the flesh; that's me.
One thing about meeting 'Catters in the real world is that, having known them from their postings, a lot of the initial gaucheness and awkwardness is already out of the way and there's a feeling that you know them already.
And another good thing about an online folk club (speaking as someone who doesn't use PalTalk - I must get around to rigging one of the Macs to use it one day...) is that in cyberspace no-one knows how badly I sing!
Mind you, I got a shock when I realised that Liz the Squeak was actually a 6ft 4in prop forward with a bushy moustache and a duelling scar, and that Micca was a dead ringer for Julie Andrews... :^)


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Subject: RE: MC.Personalities. Cyber, & in the flesh.
From: fat B****rd
Date: 12 Apr 01 - 03:14 AM

LIke most people i onl;y have an inkling of how others perceive me, and if i do get told something i don't like i only deny it in public and want to kill whoever said it in private. i like a certain anonymity which is provided by the Mudcat. but i must own up to a certain amount of hurt feelings if cyber-rebuked. PS would the guy who busks with his 12 string in York post again as i'll be visiting soon.


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Subject: RE: MC.Personalities. Cyber, & in the flesh.
From: Amergin
Date: 12 Apr 01 - 03:08 AM

Alex, I think the area you live in is rather lovely.....


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Subject: RE: MC.Personalities. Cyber, & in the flesh.
From: Lepus Rex
Date: 12 Apr 01 - 02:55 AM

Hmm. I don't think I post enough here to really have a 'Mudcat personality.' But in general, my 'online personality' is a lot like my real life version, but a bit more reserved. When people first meet me (in real life), I guess they might think I seem weird, and shy. Then as they get to know me, they find out that not only am I weird and shy, but that I'm also: Violently moody; Freakishly compassionate; Short-tempered; Un(anti)amitious; Immature; Puritanical (no, not in a religious way); Agnostic (yes, in a religious way); True Neutral (Heh-heh, D&D, *snort*); Opinionated; Hard to enjoy a television program with; Better in small doses; Fiercely loyal; Guilt-ridden; Not quite as dumb as you think; Not quite as smart as I think; Fucking long-winded, eh?; Ah, yes. Vulgar and loud-mouthed, too...; Etc.

Like I said, I don't post here all that much, so I'm not sure how much of my real-life personality shows through. But if it doesn't, now you know. ;)

---Lepus Rex


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Subject: RE: MC.Personalities. Cyber, & in the flesh.
From: mousethief
Date: 12 Apr 01 - 02:51 AM

Yeah, Bremerton isn't quite as vibrant as it was before they built the Kitsap Mall. But it's still a lovely town, and really no less lovely for being quieter these days. Let the noisy mall-oriented types move away. If my job and family didn't conspire as they do to keep me in Sumner, I'd move to Bremerton in a flash.

Alex


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Subject: RE: MC.Personalities. Cyber, & in the flesh.
From: GUEST,#1
Date: 12 Apr 01 - 02:44 AM

I looked at a few of Norbert Weiner's books, but they weren't easy reading. The first started out on transformation properties of Abelian groups, as I remember. Shannon's 'Information Theory' is a bit easier, and I still have my copy of the original 1954 edition. The hitch is it's all about communication of messages, and ways to code them that minimizes the chances of noise distorting the messages, and has nothing to do with what an intelligent layman would call information. It paved the way to checking that's done here and on computer files by doing such things as cyclic redundancy checks, and such.


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Subject: RE: MC.Personalities. Cyber, & in the flesh.
From: Amergin
Date: 12 Apr 01 - 01:36 AM

So are you saying that Scorch is even ornerier in person than she is here?


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Subject: RE: MC.Personalities. Cyber, & in the flesh.
From: katlaughing
Date: 12 Apr 01 - 01:33 AM

This looks like an interesting article on the mathematician in question.

This has some very interesting info with links to more info about several of the important people connected to cybernetics.

Bill Sables, Allan C, and Sorcha were even more than I'd hoped for, in person, and very much like what I'd expected based on their postings. I knew Wyo Woman in 3D a little bit before Mudcat, but grew to know her even better because of Mudcat and can safely say she is very much in 3D as she is here!

There is no doubt in my mind that when I finally do get to meet several of the Mudcatters I feel closest to, that they will be just as I know them to be, probably better as they will have real arms to hug with and bod I can hug!:-)


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Subject: RE: MC.Personalities. Cyber, & in the flesh.
From: GUEST,#1
Date: 12 Apr 01 - 01:06 AM

Forgot to ask if anyone here knew of the famous mathematician that coined 'cyber' (as in cybernetics)?


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Subject: RE: MC.Personalities. Cyber, & in the flesh.
From: GUEST,#1
Date: 12 Apr 01 - 01:02 AM

Hey, mousethief. Has everyone from Bremerville-by-the-Sound moved to Silverdale yet? The place just wasn't the same after Ed. Bremmer died. My sister worked for him for a while, but Bremerville had already started ti disintegrate. Downtown Bremerville moved to Silverdale Mall and the people in town followed. It looked like about 3/4 of them had moved the last time I was there.


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Subject: RE: MC.Personalities. Cyber, & in the flesh.
From: alison
Date: 11 Apr 01 - 11:40 PM

lol

any of the ones I have met have been absolutely lovely. In the last year I met Mike Ireland, Annaroi, and TerryK, all lovely men...........

looking forwar to meeting a lot more.... maybe some year I'll tour the US.........

slainte

alison


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Subject: RE: MC.Personalities. Cyber, & in the flesh.
From: catspaw49
Date: 11 Apr 01 - 10:39 PM

Geeziz Mick.....I thought you had to confess sin, not making mouth noises sounding like "homidahomidahomida" and fainting dead away! I mean like, uh, are you sure that's a sin?

Spaw


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Subject: RE: MC.Personalities. Cyber, & in the flesh.
From: Big Mick
Date: 11 Apr 01 - 10:28 PM

I don't know how I come off in person as opposed to here. Probably the biggest difference is that I tend to share very deep feelings here. I liken it to writing in a journal and then letting my friends read it so they know my innermost feelings. Might seem odd, but I liken writing in the threads to sharing music. It is a way for me to let others see me, the real me, and not just the physical image I project. Sometimes it gets me in real trouble.

What that translates out to when I meet others is that I have seen their hearts and their feelings. The friendships that have blossomed out of that are too numerous to mention. And the day that I meet THE FAIR ONE, well, I will have to go to confession for sure....................LOL.

HEY FIELDING.............waddya mean I don't have a brogue????????????????????

All the best,

Mick


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Subject: RE: MC.Personalities. Cyber, & in the flesh.
From: Bill D
Date: 11 Apr 01 - 07:54 PM

I talk easier than I type, but I try VERY hard to project my mood, expression, attitude online....hence all the dots, underlinings, CAPS, *grins*...etc......

I make an attempt to make the sentence you read 'sound' like me talking, as I really hate being mis-understood.

Since I attend the FSGW Getaway, I have met 20-30 or so Mudcatters, and most of them were pretty close to what I expected, some a bit shyer, some less.

I do note that there are folks whom I admire & respect, but whom I doubt very much I would be 'buddies' with in person....just different approaches to conversation, life and 'personal space' issues. And there are a few I'd like VERY much to know better.....I think... *grin*)


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Subject: RE: MC.Personalities. Cyber, & in the flesh.
From: Sorcha
Date: 11 Apr 01 - 07:52 PM

I do try, but deep down inside I really am an intolerant bitch.....I just don't express it often. More on line than in person, but not near as often as I think it!! It might be called maturity, but more likely it is self preservation.

I like being helpful, I like "providing" whether it be info, food, or what ever, but I cannot tolerate stupidity. Ignorance is fixable, and quite forgiveable, but I don't deal well with stupidity.(Uhh, what I mean here is the sterotypical "blonde/ValleyGirl syndrome--not a handicapped defiency, OK)

Bottom line is, I like to think I am an archetypal "MOM" , I want to help and fix it, but you have to help too. I have no idea if that is how I really come across here or not....."if we could see oursleves as other see us"...

I think we should ask bill/sables; he has met more of us in person than anyone else, hasn't he?


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Subject: RE: MC.Personalities. Cyber, & in the flesh.
From: Peg
Date: 11 Apr 01 - 07:12 PM

I swear about as much in person as I do online... ;)


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Subject: RE: MC.Personalities. Cyber, & in the flesh.
From: mousethief
Date: 11 Apr 01 - 06:30 PM

Proud to be ugly. :-)

ALex


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Subject: RE: MC.Personalities. Cyber, & in the flesh.
From: Amergin
Date: 11 Apr 01 - 06:28 PM

Ya know Rick, there's already a support group thread going on......


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Subject: RE: MC.Personalities. Cyber, & in the flesh.
From: Rick Fielding
Date: 11 Apr 01 - 06:26 PM

Damn! Where were those Certs when I needed them? Oh well, I'm not PROUD of being addicted. One less ticket sold, next time!

Smokey the Bear


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Subject: RE: MC.Personalities. Cyber, & in the flesh.
From: Murray MacLeod
Date: 11 Apr 01 - 05:03 PM

I have never (to my knowledge) met another Mudcatter, but after having perused the Photo Album, I am struck by the fact that while most of the women look wonderful, the men whose postings make me laugh the most are all really ugly bozos.

Murray


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Subject: RE: MC.Personalities. Cyber, & in the flesh.
From: GUEST
Date: 11 Apr 01 - 04:58 PM

I met Rick Fielding last year at a concert he gave. He seemed as nice in person as on Mudcat and the music was great.

But the smell of the ciggies on his breath: PHOOEY, PHOOEY, PHOOEY!


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Subject: RE: MC.Personalities. Cyber, & in the flesh.
From: CarolC
Date: 11 Apr 01 - 04:55 PM

Well, Rick, you're a lot of fun in the Mudcat, but you're even more fun in person. I think your fun kind of spontenaity works really well in the 3D world.

Yeah, I admit it. I'm a little shy... Surprise!


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Subject: RE: MC.Personalities. Cyber, & in the flesh.
From: JedMarum
Date: 11 Apr 01 - 03:39 PM

I have met several Mudcatters and all, it has strikes me, match very closely to the personalities I knew on-line. No surprises.


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