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German Mudcatters get-together Part 2

Noreen 27 Feb 01 - 03:02 PM
Llanfair 27 Feb 01 - 04:23 PM
Cobble 27 Feb 01 - 07:41 PM
Wolfgang 28 Feb 01 - 04:30 AM
The Crazy Bird 28 Feb 01 - 05:53 AM
GUEST 28 Feb 01 - 10:35 AM
Susanne (skw) 28 Feb 01 - 06:16 PM
Rollo 28 Feb 01 - 08:59 PM
Eric the Viking 01 Mar 01 - 01:34 PM
Wolfgang 23 Mar 01 - 05:33 AM
Letty 23 Mar 01 - 06:31 AM
MudGuard 23 Mar 01 - 07:31 AM
Lady McMoo 23 Mar 01 - 09:22 AM
Eric the Viking 23 Mar 01 - 05:19 PM
Eric the Viking 23 Mar 01 - 05:27 PM
Susanne (skw) 23 Mar 01 - 08:16 PM
MudGuard 26 Mar 01 - 03:22 AM
GUEST 27 Mar 01 - 03:40 AM
Wolfgang 27 Mar 01 - 05:14 AM
Wolfgang 27 Mar 01 - 05:33 AM
MudGuard 27 Mar 01 - 05:43 AM
Wolfgang 27 Mar 01 - 05:47 AM
Wolfgang 27 Mar 01 - 05:48 AM
MudGuard 27 Mar 01 - 08:33 AM
Wolfgang 27 Mar 01 - 08:40 AM
MudGuard 27 Mar 01 - 09:24 AM
Eric the Viking 27 Mar 01 - 12:22 PM
MudGuard 28 Mar 01 - 06:35 AM
Letty 28 Mar 01 - 08:54 AM
Wolfgang 28 Mar 01 - 10:22 AM
Eric the Viking 28 Mar 01 - 12:07 PM
Eric the Viking 28 Mar 01 - 12:14 PM
Sabine 29 Mar 01 - 01:47 AM
Wolfgang 29 Mar 01 - 03:24 AM
Sabine 29 Mar 01 - 04:12 AM
Wolfgang 29 Mar 01 - 04:41 AM
Sabine 29 Mar 01 - 06:01 AM
Rollo 29 Mar 01 - 05:31 PM
Susanne (skw) 31 Mar 01 - 04:51 PM
Rollo 01 Apr 01 - 04:41 PM
Ranks 04 Apr 01 - 02:21 AM
Letty 04 Apr 01 - 07:55 AM
Susanne (skw) 04 Apr 01 - 06:05 PM
Wolfgang 05 Apr 01 - 04:05 AM
Eric the Viking 06 Apr 01 - 01:13 PM
MudGuard 09 Apr 01 - 06:51 AM
menzze 09 Apr 01 - 12:02 PM
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Subject: German Mudcatters get-together Part 2
From: Noreen
Date: 27 Feb 01 - 03:02 PM

At the request of Eric, a second edition of German Mudcatters get-together


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Subject: RE: German Mudcatters get-together Part 2
From: Llanfair
Date: 27 Feb 01 - 04:23 PM

It will have.....enough lifeboats? Won't it?
Jim's just reminded me that the Titanic was on it's maiden voyage when it tried to occupy the same space as an iceberg.
Cheers, Bron.


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Subject: RE: German Mudcatters get-together Part 2
From: Cobble
Date: 27 Feb 01 - 07:41 PM

I'm wondering if I should increase Cobble's insurance. Can an iceberg be sued for negligence!!!!

Mrs C


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Subject: RE: German Mudcatters get-together Part 2
From: Wolfgang
Date: 28 Feb 01 - 04:30 AM

The main thing for your dangerous crossing from our point of view is:
Eat all provisions like meat and sausage before leaving the ship (grin).

Wolfgang


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Subject: RE: German Mudcatters get-together Part 2
From: The Crazy Bird
Date: 28 Feb 01 - 05:53 AM

Hey y'all, what's up? I just learned about this site last friday and have been having a lot of fun

I'm based in Denmark 40 kloms south of Ye Wonderful Copenhagen.

rgrds CrzyBrd


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Subject: RE: German Mudcatters get-together Part 2
From: GUEST
Date: 28 Feb 01 - 10:35 AM

Don't forget to keep watch for Polar bears on the Iceberg if we see one!!! Just in case anyone asks!!

YOU CAN'T SUE AN ICEBERG BUT YOU CAN FREEZE IT'S ASSETTS!


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Subject: RE: German Mudcatters get-together Part 2
From: Susanne (skw)
Date: 28 Feb 01 - 06:16 PM

Guest - no you can't, not if you've drowned. Still, I wouldn't worry about icebergs! I've been told the biggest hazard in the English Channel (and north of it) are other ships ... Personally, the worst thing I've encountered in 30 years of crossing to and fro were an engine failure and a broken leg (not mine, I'm glad to say, and it was extremely interesting to turn back to Newcastle two hours from the land and watch the poor stricken lady and her friends being transferred to a port authority speedboat just outside the harbour ...). So watch your steps, boys 'n' girls! We want you here hale (not to mention hearty)!


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Subject: RE: German Mudcatters get-together Part 2
From: Rollo
Date: 28 Feb 01 - 08:59 PM

Whoah, Wolfgang, I hope your garden is big enough for all the tents that will be neccesary to shelter this lot... Isn't it great? Even Denmark thinks about sending a delegation to our little privat Grand Prix de La Chanson!

Sure you will come to muenster first may weekend, won't you, crazybird?


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Subject: RE: German Mudcatters get-together Part 2
From: Eric the Viking
Date: 01 Mar 01 - 01:34 PM

I like crossing the sea, but the Iceberg is another thing-see a thread which came up by coincidence. It's a Les barker song.


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Subject: RE: German Mudcatters get-together Part 2
From: Wolfgang
Date: 23 Mar 01 - 05:33 AM

OK, ready for a summary so far? Please update or correct me.

Pondering to come (more or less sure):
Wolfgang
Susanne
Mudguard
Bill\Sables and crew (5 I've counted including Llanfair)
McMoo
Ranks
Rollo
Letty
Sabine

Perhaps:
Menzze
Ernest
Ina
Schmiddi
John C

(did I forget somebody?)

There might be reasons to say 'sorry I can't come' or 'may I come as well' (sure yes) at a later time, but I think it is reasonable to expect up to a dozen of you.

Date:
May, 4-6
I did understand that the British 'delegation' comes on Saturday and leaves on Sunday or Monday. Therefore the main action should be Saturday night (5th of May) and (perhaps) Sunday night. If some of the nearer-than-Britain Mudcatters like to come Friday as well, you are invited.

Sleeping:
I have a bed, Susanne has a caravan, Mudguard sleeps some other place. My wife has given me free hand to invite you to sleep in our flat. Nine people with sleeping bag can sleep in our flat, not very comfortable, but it is possible. So that's the offer.
In addition to that, there's a big garden behind the house which could easily take two or three tents.
And then there's Muenster youth hostel a twenty minutes walk from my home, ten minutes from downtown.
Just in case, there are four hotels near my place (about 75 Euro a double room a night) but I won't mention them again, if I'm not prompted.

Münster (Muenster):
Don't mix it up with Munster, another town in Germany. This often leads to funny situations with foreign guests. Muenster is about 80 km north of Dortmund, that should make the decision easy. Here is the homepage of Muenster.
There's a lot of history (buildings etc.) in that (very catholic) town, so a guided walk through will be offered by me

Where am I:
Wolfgang Hell
Wiener Str. 24
48145 Muenster
Tel.: 0251/374477
Mail: hell@psy.uni-muenster.de (never on weekends)

Where do we congregate:
I'd say we start at my place, later in the garden (weather permitting) or in a pub.

Should I make a reservation for a room in a pub which does not mind musicians making the expected noise?

What do we do?
Some of us, Susanne, Mudguard, Wolfgang are 'passive' musician, most of us are active. Well, I for instance like singing (and even Bodhran playing) but with more fun than ability.
But everyone of us likes to listen to life folk music so that's what we should do. (Just in case we get tired I have enough records to play a month without repetition).

Recording:
Susanne has suggested we record the music for Mudcat Radio. Sorry, but I have no equipment for that and if I do have bits of it I don't know (I've never tried recording music at all). I think everything that is necessary for that has to be brought by someone else.

Directions to find my place:
Follow with a later post

Wolfgang


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Subject: RE: German Mudcatters get-together Part 2
From: Letty
Date: 23 Mar 01 - 06:31 AM

Thanks for arranging all this, Wolfgang. I'll be there! And probably bring a sleeping bag, if that's ok. Hattingen/Bochum is about an hour away, but I guess we'll stay up late, so maybe driving home isn't a good idea... Nevertheless, if need be, people can stay in my home (up to 4, it's tiny!). Looking forward to it - I'll be practising some fiddle tunes. But I can sing a little too, and maybe there's a piano around.

Grüsse,

Letty


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Subject: RE: German Mudcatters get-together Part 2
From: MudGuard
Date: 23 Mar 01 - 07:31 AM

Thanks Wolfgang, for summarizing so far.

Yes, I will (probably) be staying with one of my two Münster-Cousins. I have warned them that this might happen, and now I think I will confirm my "booking". I will arrive by train, and I will have my bicycle with me, so distance within Münster should be no problem for me.

*) After the meeting (either Sunday or Monday - I don't mind) I will start a cycling trip into the Netherlands and Belgium (if Foot-And-Mouth still allows traveling there).


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Subject: RE: German Mudcatters get-together Part 2
From: Lady McMoo
Date: 23 Mar 01 - 09:22 AM

I'll definitely be coming and will definitely bring Lady McMoo (a fine singer) and probably also my daughter also. Maybe we will stay in the Muenster youth hostel or, if you can recommend any Wolfgang, a bed and breakfast. I could bring a small four-track if needed. I will definitely bring a digital camera for a photo record for Mudcat.

Looking forward to the event.

All the best

mcmoo


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Subject: RE: German Mudcatters get-together Part 2
From: Eric the Viking
Date: 23 Mar 01 - 05:19 PM

This sounds excellent. Sleeping bag for me please inside if I can. How long from Rotterdam? Any good route recomended. has boked us for return on Sunday, so we have saturday afternoon, evening, night and some of Sunday. I must do some shopping to get my kids and the wife something, so are we near to some shops? And of course, get some tobacco for my pipe-clan is what I smoke. (Not inside if you don't want) Playing anywhere will do us I think, so a pub would be fine-but check with Bill. I am really looking forwards to this.

Bye for now

Eric


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Subject: RE: German Mudcatters get-together Part 2
From: Eric the Viking
Date: 23 Mar 01 - 05:27 PM

Also the guided walk sounds really good- I like to explore, when would that be? On sunday morning? Or Saturday afternoon? It is a pity out time is so short.

By the way is that a picture of Bill I see on the web site for the town? (Search to find it!!!)

Bye

Eric


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Subject: RE: German Mudcatters get-together Part 2
From: Susanne (skw)
Date: 23 Mar 01 - 08:16 PM

This sounds good. I'll be there, probably sleeping in the car. And I do sing a bit.
I didn't know when I suggested Muenster, but Wolfgang is obviously among the most organised people in the world. Thanks, Wolfgang!


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Subject: RE: German Mudcatters get-together P.2 - Refresh
From: MudGuard
Date: 26 Mar 01 - 03:22 AM

Just a refresh!


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Subject: RE: German Mudcatters get-together Part 2
From: GUEST
Date: 27 Mar 01 - 03:40 AM

just another refresh


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Subject: RE: German Mudcatters get-together Part 2
From: Wolfgang
Date: 27 Mar 01 - 05:14 AM

some individual comments:

Letty: bring the sleeping bag or would you like to drive back to Bochum at two in the morning??

Mudguard: I'll be looking for the nearer of the two streets you have mentioned. I don't know them.

Eric: I'll recommend a route (routes) later. As for the guided walk, Saturday afternoon would be my personal choice, but Sunday morning also sounds fine (there might be an additional reason on sunday morning for a walk)

mcmmo: I remember you said you have a bit of a knowledge of Germman? Go to the webpage of Muenster (see above), click 'Touristik' then click 'Übernachten' and you'll have a list of hotels. Close to my place are 'Frönd', 'Hotel Europa', Windsor'. Not listed but nearest is 'Scho' (200 yards). The cheapest near here is 'Haus vom guten Hirten'(a former monastery). The service is now a bit better than at monastery times, but not much. Don't mind posting again if you want some more help.

By the way, there is a town map of Muenster on the website (not particularly easy to find), that'll make my task of describing the way much easier.

More later.

Wolfgang


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Subject: RE: German Mudcatters get-together Part 2
From: Wolfgang
Date: 27 Mar 01 - 05:33 AM

We'll have more time than I thought for I see that the guided tour isn't necessary. There is a virtual guided tour in the web and I think it is great. Explore the links (sorry, German only) and the panorama views (don't forget to click on the buildings, in some cases you'll get inside views):

Virtual sightseeing of Muenster

Wolfgang


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Subject: RE: German Mudcatters get-together Part 2
From: MudGuard
Date: 27 Mar 01 - 05:43 AM

Wolfgang - no longer necessary. I found Münster Townmap and have looked up the three streets (yours and the two of my cousins - one has just moved so the street given is no longer valid).
And I will have my bike with me, so a few km are no problem. Especially as Münster is said to be a good cycling city.

MudGuard


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Subject: RE: German Mudcatters get-together Part 2
From: Wolfgang
Date: 27 Mar 01 - 05:47 AM

for all, here's an interactive town map of Muenster

for Andreas: I had a look at the map (it has a street search function): Overbergstr. is so close that I am ashamed I didn't know. Ten minutes walk from me. Go to the search function of the twon map, enter Overbergstr. and as soon as you have the map click on the arrow pointing exactly to the East. You'll then see a map that has both Overbergstr. and Wiener Str. in it and you can zoom in or out to see where that is in general.

Wolfgang


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Subject: RE: German Mudcatters get-together Part 2
From: Wolfgang
Date: 27 Mar 01 - 05:48 AM

I see, grin.


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Subject: RE: German Mudcatters get-together Part 2
From: MudGuard
Date: 27 Mar 01 - 08:33 AM

Overbergstraße is exactly the one which is of no use anymore... My cousin now lives in Schillerstraße.
I have asked Martin (Schillerstraße - central Münster) and Birgit (Telemannstraße in the north of Münster) for a place to sleep in but did not yet get an answer...

Andreas/MudGuard


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Subject: RE: German Mudcatters get-together Part 2
From: Wolfgang
Date: 27 Mar 01 - 08:40 AM

Schillerstr. is somewhat nearer if you have the choice. Wolfgang


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Subject: RE: German Mudcatters get-together Part 2
From: MudGuard
Date: 27 Mar 01 - 09:24 AM

But the cousin in Schillerstraße is smoker, the one in Telemannstr is non-smoker - which makes the decision hard if both are available...


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Subject: RE: German Mudcatters get-together Part 2
From: Eric the Viking
Date: 27 Mar 01 - 12:22 PM

Is there a chance that one of you excellent people could give me an indication of the prices for things like coffee, coke(for Bill) Pipe tobacco, chips (frites) etc, Just to have some idea. In DM will be fine-I can work it out.

Cheers>p>Eric


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Subject: RE: German Mudcatters get-together Part 2
From: MudGuard
Date: 28 Mar 01 - 06:35 AM

Ok, I have confirmation from one of my cousins - I can sleep in her flat (Telemannstr), the other cousin did not yet answer. I will arrive in Münster on Friday night (22:28) and will head straight to whichever cousin I will stay.

Saturday morning I will do some sightseeing on my own, so no need to entertain me before the afternoon. What time are we allowed to arrive, Wolfgang?
If you need help for anything on Saturday, tell me. As I will be in town, it's no problem!

Andreas/MudGuard


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Subject: RE: German Mudcatters get-together Part 2
From: Letty
Date: 28 Mar 01 - 08:54 AM

For maps of German cities, see:

Stadtplan site

Travelling from Hoek van Holland (Rotterdam) to Muenster:
(according to the ANWB)

Total distance: 315 km
Total time: 3 hours, 23 minutes
Take the E25 (A20) to Rotterdam (N220/A20), direction 's Gravenhage (also called Den Haag) and Utrecht.
At Gouda (Gouwe), take the A12 in the direction Arnhem, Apeldoorn, Oberhausen.
Pass the Dutch/German border. The road you're on is now called A3.
At Kreuz Oberhausen, take the A2 in the direction Hannover/Muenster.
At Kreuz Recklinghausen, take the A43 to Muenster.

Hope that helps,

Letty


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Subject: RE: German Mudcatters get-together Part 2
From: Wolfgang
Date: 28 Mar 01 - 10:22 AM

If someone of you is in Muenster at Friday that is no problem. Come when you feel like. You could even stay overnight.

Andreas, thanks for the offer to help. I think I won't need help playing it easy like going to a restaurant together (I still think of the Scottish cuisine in 'Scott's View').

Eric,
for to buy and carry away or for to consume at the spot?

Wolfgang


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Subject: RE: German Mudcatters get-together Part 2
From: Eric the Viking
Date: 28 Mar 01 - 12:07 PM

Both- though I won't take a cup of coffee back with me!! Thanks.


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Subject: RE: German Mudcatters get-together Part 2
From: Eric the Viking
Date: 28 Mar 01 - 12:14 PM

Thanks Letty-though I know Holland very well, it's all by bike as we cycle about 600Km every summer holiday. Mostly in Holland, though we have cycled into Germany-not far though. We use trekkershutten and then stay with our friends in Leiderdorp for a few days before cycling off again to go home.

Cheers

Eric


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Subject: RE: German Mudcatters get-together Part 2
From: Sabine
Date: 29 Mar 01 - 01:47 AM

Folk, sad but true but I'm unable to join you :o( Just on this weekend my parents will definetly move to their new flat and I have to help them. I'm really sad about that but I hope that this won't be the last gathering of German Mudcatters.

I wish you all a pleasant weekend in Münster (mind the "Altbierbowle" *g*).

Wolfgang, did you already ask for a place to play at the "Limerick's" ? It's not too big but I know that they like life music there. You can also try at the "Blechtrommel" but I'm not quite sure.

Regards,

Sabine


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Subject: RE: German Mudcatters get-together Part 2
From: Wolfgang
Date: 29 Mar 01 - 03:24 AM

Sabine,
it's a pity you cannot come. No, I don't think 'Limerick's' or 'Blechtrommel' would be good places. They both have a noisy crowd in there at Saturday evenings and we couldn't or wouldn't make a show for them. I think we'd feel more comfortable in a pub with an extra room for us.

Wolfgang


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Subject: RE: German Mudcatters get-together Part 2
From: Sabine
Date: 29 Mar 01 - 04:12 AM

Yes Wolfgang, I forgot that it will be on a Saturday...

Did you find a place? Otherwise I will ask a friend of mine who studied severeal years at Münster. She is also a musician and knows several places. Limerick's and Blechtrommel were the only ones I remembered...

Sabine


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Subject: RE: German Mudcatters get-together Part 2
From: Wolfgang
Date: 29 Mar 01 - 04:41 AM

Thanks, but it is not necessary I think. I know a number of places with extra rooms and I'll just have to ask around and have a look myself.

Wolfgang


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Subject: RE: German Mudcatters get-together Part 2
From: Sabine
Date: 29 Mar 01 - 06:01 AM

You will manage it, I'm sure :o)

Sabine


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Subject: RE: German Mudcatters get-together Part 2
From: Rollo
Date: 29 Mar 01 - 05:31 PM

Hi Folks!

Seems like we will have a great time! Wolfgang, many thanks for organizing. I am sure we will feel great due to your labour.

As I love camping (and I am snoring like hell!) I would like to build up a small tent in your garden. There would be room for a second person.

Well... about technics - is anyone going by car via hamburg? In this case I am sure I could organize a small 4-channel-mixing unit and a dat recorder plus a couple of microfones. But if I have to go by train I will prefer to carry my banjo - sure you all will understand that! *GGG*

bye Rollo


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Subject: RE: German Mudcatters get-together Part 2
From: Susanne (skw)
Date: 31 Mar 01 - 04:51 PM

Rollo - whereabouts in Hamburg are you? I'll probably be going down the A1, due to an engagement on the Friday night, so I wouldn't normally go through Hamburg. Also, I'll probably go late on Friday night. But maybe we can arrange something.


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Subject: RE: German Mudcatters get-together Part 2
From: Rollo
Date: 01 Apr 01 - 04:41 PM

Susanne, I am in Harburg (Mitte), if you leave A1 at Neuland you are there in a couple of minutes; going late at friday night is no problem for me.

If we can manage this it would be great!


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Subject: RE: German Mudcatters get-together Part 2
From: Ranks
Date: 04 Apr 01 - 02:21 AM

Good to here, that erverything is going to happen unless the mouth and foot disease is going to stop us. Looking forward to the session. I might be going back to Dorsten on Saturday night or might not.

Looking forward to seeing you all


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Subject: RE: German Mudcatters get-together Part 2
From: Letty
Date: 04 Apr 01 - 07:55 AM

Perhaps we could pick a couple of tunes/songs that we could study and then play together in Muenster... Any comments? BTW, don't think Foot and Mouth is going to stop anyone, I predict German cattle will be infected any time now. Shame.

Letty


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Subject: RE: German Mudcatters get-together Part 2
From: Susanne (skw)
Date: 04 Apr 01 - 06:05 PM

There is said to be a first outbreak in the Muensterland, where the biggest 'pork factories' in the country are situated. Any definite news, Wolfgang? Any reason to suppose it'll prevent the Mudcat gathering?


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Subject: RE: German Mudcatters get-together Part 2
From: Wolfgang
Date: 05 Apr 01 - 04:05 AM

No confirmed outbreak yet, but the disease will be here until May. However, there will be no restrictions to movements in a big town. I see no problem yet.

Wolfgang


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Subject: RE: German Mudcatters get-together Part 2
From: Eric the Viking
Date: 06 Apr 01 - 01:13 PM

Errm, just one question- Do you have any pretty horses?(mares preferably)


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Subject: RE: German Mudcatters get-together Part 2
From: MudGuard
Date: 09 Apr 01 - 06:51 AM

Just bought the train ticket (have to book in advance because I bring a bike) so I hope the gathering won't be cancelled...


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Subject: RE: German Mudcatters get-together Part 2
From: menzze
Date: 09 Apr 01 - 12:02 PM

Why d'ya ask for horses, Eric??? In fear of mouth & foot disease I suppose. Correct me if I'm wrong, please.*LOL*
I'm more and more in doubt if I can make it to come to the meeting, grace to the Landratsamt and the TÜV in Ravensburg. Yeah ,I know, there's still the train left to take........hmmmmm...... And of course I will be accompanied by my six-stringed-lady.
Well, we'll see.........................................

menzze


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Subject: RE: German Mudcatters get-together Part 2
From: MudGuard
Date: 11 Apr 01 - 04:02 AM

24 days and counting...


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Subject: RE: German Mudcatters get-together Part 2
From: MudGuard
Date: 12 Apr 01 - 09:15 AM

23 days and counting ...


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Subject: RE: German Mudcatters get-together Part 2
From: Eric the Viking
Date: 12 Apr 01 - 01:40 PM

Only joking about the horses- looking forward to getting there. Mudguard, any ideas on costs of things? Is there a music instrument shop near? A CD shop near?

Cheers.

By the way, can you get oarnge and soda in the pubs?-thats what I drink, most times, I know Bill will be able to get his coke.

Eric

ps- Any other Catters who want to go? Greg aka Skipjack still has seats left in his car I believe.


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