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nutty 24 Feb 01 - 01:18 PM
Amergin 24 Feb 01 - 01:22 PM
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Big Mick 24 Feb 01 - 01:23 PM
Hawker 24 Feb 01 - 01:53 PM
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Subject: Am I really that old???
From: nutty
Date: 24 Feb 01 - 01:18 PM

I've just been listening to the TV and it said that The Beatles appeared at the Cavern 40 years ago........ 40 years...... they have just got to be joking

I know the old joints are not as supple...... the feet not as nimble........ the brain not as agile ........ the eyes not as bright ..... but 40 years

I refuse to believe that I am 40 years worth of older .......... 30 I might accept .... 20 is more how I feel

How do these years creep up on us??????

I really think folk music is to blame ...... it lets us grow old and yet still participate
You can sing and play sitting down ..... no need to be agile

You can still sing and play as well or even better than you used to as a teenager

All your friends are ageing alongside of you ...... so you don't notice it as much

You are much more discerning about your activities and have learned to pace yourself

A friend of mine says .... GROWING OLD IS INEVITABLE..... GROWING UP IS OPTIONAL ....
I believe her ... I,ve done the long climb to the top -- now I'm on the gentle slide down the otherside -- How about you????


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Subject: RE: BS: Am I really that old???
From: Amergin
Date: 24 Feb 01 - 01:22 PM

Well, I'm still climbing....but then I'm not nearly as old as alot of you farts.....


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Subject: RE: BS: Am I really that old???
From: SINSULL
Date: 24 Feb 01 - 01:22 PM

Carpe Diem nutty. Carpe Diem.


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Subject: RE: BS: Am I really that old???
From: Big Mick
Date: 24 Feb 01 - 01:23 PM

I canna stop aging.........in fact, I revel in it. But I absolutely, categorically, and paragorically refuse to get old. Ain't doin' it!!! I am 50 years old and just had an aged Uncle ask me if it wasn't about time that I grew up, got a haircut, and a real job. I asked him what the feckin' hurry was. I am, after all, just a kid!!!.................LOL.

All the best,

Big Mick


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Subject: RE: BS: Am I really that old???
From: Hawker
Date: 24 Feb 01 - 01:53 PM

I am 40 in May - birthdays are not a sign of getting old, but a good excuse for a party!

If it makes you feel old, just think how it makes Paul Ringo & George feel!

Heres to being young at heart! I think that is whay I enjoy running children's workshops - 'cos I can join in!

Regards, Lucy


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Subject: RE: BS: Am I really that old???
From: katlaughing
Date: 24 Feb 01 - 01:55 PM

Same here, Mick!!! Though I've not reached as many years as you. **BG**


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Subject: RE: BS: Am I really that old???
From: Dave (the ancient mariner)
Date: 24 Feb 01 - 02:08 PM

I am closer to fifty than my wife is to forty. I was born an "old soul" or so I was told. Wear your scars and lines with pride, you are a survivor. Stay young Big Mick you earned the right too. Yours, Aye. Dave


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Subject: RE: BS: Am I really that old???
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 24 Feb 01 - 02:10 PM

Matt Watroba on Folks Like Us is doing a show themed on songs about growing old... LOL!! Maybe he's reading Mudcat eh?

Gotta Love NPR

:-)


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Subject: RE: BS: Am I really that old???
From: Lonesome EJ
Date: 24 Feb 01 - 02:10 PM

Ah, Mick, we did grow up, just not exactly like Mom and Dad expected. As young as I often feel, I've still got my 12 year old daughter to remind me how out of date I am. The other day, she was doing a back-flip in her gym class, and I clapped and called "far OUT!" It took a day before she started talking to me again. Bummer.


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Subject: RE: BS: Am I really that old???
From: John Hindsill
Date: 24 Feb 01 - 02:13 PM

Nutty - Growing old is inevitable; the alternative is not as good, but also inevitable. As a radio talk show used to say, "I want to grow old disgracefully."


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Subject: RE: BS: Am I really that old???
From: wdyat12
Date: 24 Feb 01 - 02:15 PM

nutty,

I am in complete denial also.

wdyat12


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Subject: RE: BS: Am I really that old???
From: Amos
Date: 24 Feb 01 - 02:15 PM

Ah, LEJ, lad, I feel your pain! Almost everything I try to say to my daughter from the heart gets half-way across and then crashes and burns because of the generational dialectical gap.

But remember, Mick and LEJ, that it's just a body that ages. You guys know perfectly well that in the last analysis you are standing outside of time, outside of space, reaching in to cause trouble and then laughing your big spiritual buns off.

Regards,

A


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Subject: RE: BS: Am I really that old???
From: Hollowfox
Date: 24 Feb 01 - 02:20 PM

I'm old enough to get away with it and young enough to want to. I'm neither so old nor so young that I have to do anything stupid to prove either that I'm old enough to hang out with the grown-ups or young enoough to keep up with the young'uns.


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Subject: RE: BS: Am I really that old???
From: GUEST,Sarah2 (at work)
Date: 24 Feb 01 - 02:28 PM

Gee, Amergin, I thought that was Carpe Guinness.

Sarah


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Subject: RE: BS: Am I really that old???
From: Katcina
Date: 24 Feb 01 - 02:43 PM

I'm with wydat and nutty. I've been in denial for years.


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Subject: RE: BS: Am I really that old???
From: Hollowfox
Date: 24 Feb 01 - 02:50 PM

Not me, Katcina. I'm hoping to have even half as much energy as my great-grandmother, at half her age.


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Subject: RE: BS: Am I really that old???
From: kendall
Date: 24 Feb 01 - 02:54 PM

I'm 66, have a grand daughter 14 and she loves to visit me. She says I'm ..uh..something. It was a compliment like kool. We laugh a lot. She is also a Monty Python freak.


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Subject: RE: BS: Am I really that old???
From: Amos
Date: 24 Feb 01 - 03:00 PM

Well, it's a lot easier with Grandchildren, Doctor Morse; you get all the priveleges and none of the responsibilities! Easy to be cool if you don't have to trim the sheets, fight the helm. order the course changes, pump the bilges and try to get fixes in rough water at midnight!

Regards,

A


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Subject: RE: BS: Am I really that old???
From: Gern
Date: 24 Feb 01 - 03:05 PM

Allow me to share a couple reality checks I endured. Introducing a class I was about to teach in high school 5 years ago, I mentioned John Kennedy. A student said, "Isn't that the guy who dated Daryl Hannah?" Groan. My stepson listened to a music documentary and then said, "I didn't know Paul McCartney was one of the Beatles?" He later pointed out that the Beatles were singing an Aerosmith song, "Come Together." Longevity has its drawbacks.


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Subject: RE: BS: Am I really that old???
From: GUEST
Date: 24 Feb 01 - 03:38 PM

Nice quote in this morning's paper...it is from a man in his eighties...one of the rapidly dwindling number of of Iwo Jima vets at a recent reunion: "Who is going to sit and listen to us talk? We are as obsolete as dinosaurs. We are the old fools who saved the world."

Fool on.

SandyBob


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Subject: RE: BS: Am I really that old???
From: Katcina
Date: 24 Feb 01 - 03:42 PM

I will always deny being old Hollowfox. I think the denial of being old is how my grandmother was able to keep up with all of us at once. I'll never grow up either. I'm having too much fun being a kid. Grandma would approve.


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Subject: RE: BS: Am I really that old???
From: Big Mick
Date: 24 Feb 01 - 03:55 PM

Well..............you did it again, LEJ!!!! I had a mouthful of Diet Coke when I read your "Far Out" story. As I type this my sinus cavities are full of Diet Coke..............thanks, buddy!!! And if you think you have it rough.............I have a 24, 22 and 8 year old daughters. And I am less than two weeks away from my first grandchild. He is a boy.......and his name is Connor. Can't wait.........give me a bunch of kids, a beagle, a guitar, some pennywhistles and a summer day........all I can say is all you grownups can go to hell!!! LOL.

All the best,

Big Mick


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Subject: RE: BS: Am I really that old???
From: Troll
Date: 24 Feb 01 - 04:11 PM

I'M A SENIOR CITIZEN

- I'm the life of the party... even when it lasts 'till 8pm. - I'm very good at opening childproof caps with a hammer. - I'm usually interested in going home before I get to where I'm going. - I'm good on a trip for at least an hour without my aspirin or antacid... - I'm the first one to find the bathroom wherever I go. - I'm awake many hours before my body allows me to get up. - I'm smiling all the time because I can't hear a word you're saying. - I'm very good at telling stories -- over and over and over and over... - I'm aware that other people's grandchildren are not as bright as mine. - I'm so cared for: long-term care, eye care, private care, dental care. - I'm not grouchy, I just don't like traffic, waiting, children, politicians... - I'm positive I did housework correctly before the Internet. - I'm sure everything I can't find is in a secure place. - I'm wrinkled, saggy and lumpy, and that's just my left leg. - I'm having trouble remembering simple words like... uh... - I'm now spending more time with my pillows than with my mate. - I'm realizing that aging is not for sissies. - I'm walking more (to the bathroom) and enjoying it less. - I'm sure they are making adults much younger these days. - I'm in the *initial* state of my golden years: SS, CD's, IRA's, AARP. - I'm wondering, if you're only as old as you feel, how could I be alive at 150? - I'm anti-everything now: anti-fat, anti-smoke, anti-noise, anti-inflammatory. - I'm supporting all movements now... by eating bran, prunes and raisins. - I'm a walking storeroom of facts... I've just lost the key to the storeroom. - I'm a Senior Citizen and I think I am having the time of my life...Aren't I?
Enjoy!

troll


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Subject: RE: BS: Am I really that old???
From: Hollowfox
Date: 24 Feb 01 - 04:38 PM

I'm in full agreement, Katcina. Of course, my teens are always complaining how they're too tired from their full lives to clean their rooms. If I follow their logic, and I'm only as old as I feel, I must be barely sixteen.
The things that make me feel part of another generation? When somebody tells me that Marilyn Monroe was fat. That, and when some teens I know "couldn't see the point " of the MASH tv series, and couldn't quite understand the visual cues in "Jesus Christ, Superstar", either.


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Subject: RE: BS: Am I really that old???
From: kendall
Date: 24 Feb 01 - 04:44 PM

That was great Troll! I have a lot of things going for me...my eyes, my hair, my hearing...


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Subject: RE: BS: Am I really that old???
From: tiggerdooley
Date: 24 Feb 01 - 04:51 PM

If you listen to music that provokes the reaction "Now that's not music, it's just noise/talking/crap!!" then you're NOT old. Still listen to your old favourites, 'cos I do, but also keep annoying the ones with closed ears.


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Subject: RE: BS: Am I really that old???
From: Peter T.
Date: 24 Feb 01 - 04:59 PM

When I was growing up, we believed that we would be blown up every day by the Russians in a nuclear holocaust. I have taken them a day at a time ever since. It is a pity that, thanks to George W. Bush, the next generation will have to return to that stupid childhood fear, due to the coming new arms race. There is a decadal generation that was freed from that fear, and the masters of war are closing in again. I am sorry for the next generation: I had hoped we might have worked harder towards ridding them of that prospect, given how terrible it was the first time around -- even if it did make me grateful for each new day.
yours, Peter T.


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Subject: RE: BS: Am I really that old???
From: Katcina
Date: 24 Feb 01 - 05:00 PM

Heck tigger, that is what my dad always used to say to me, more years ago than is possible. I listen to all of it but really appreciate some of it more that other.


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Subject: RE: BS: Am I really that old???
From: tiggerdooley
Date: 24 Feb 01 - 05:07 PM

Yeah, Katcina. That feeling of "Oh you just don't GET it!" will never cease to be both satisfying and frustrating, even if you are listening to something that you've been listening to since you were fifteen.


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Subject: RE: BS: Am I really that old???
From: Amergin
Date: 24 Feb 01 - 05:08 PM

Come on, you all just don't get it....


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Subject: RE: BS: Am I really that old???
From: tiggerdooley
Date: 24 Feb 01 - 05:16 PM

That's the point, Amergin, and that's why it's such fun.


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Subject: RE: BS: Am I really that old???
From: bet
Date: 24 Feb 01 - 09:26 PM

Getting old is a state of mind. Kat remind me of that in a couple of months when I get a cane, seeing eye dog and and ear phone. I love the reaction of people wne hey find out my real age. I've got them fooled though some days I wish they'd treat me like a tottering old lady. HA HA!


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Subject: RE: BS: Am I really that old???
From: Amergin
Date: 24 Feb 01 - 10:19 PM

That's ok, Bet.....I'm around to treat your sister as a tottering old lady....


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Subject: RE: BS: Am I really that old???
From: Bill D
Date: 24 Feb 01 - 10:40 PM

I now have a greater appreciation of the remark.."Youth is a wonderful thing--too abd it is wasted on the young"


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Subject: RE: BS: Am I really that old???
From: Alice
Date: 24 Feb 01 - 10:44 PM

A couple of mornings ago I was clicking through the news and paused at the Today show, hearing Matt Lauer talking about some news coming up about Seniors, he paused and said, don't we need a new term instead of "Seniors"? Katie Couric said, "What, you mean Us?" Lauer clutched his heart and fell over on the couch.


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Subject: RE: BS: Am I really that old???
From: Amos
Date: 24 Feb 01 - 10:46 PM

That's why the really smart oldsters refuse to let go of it!

A


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Subject: RE: BS: Am I really that old???
From: Gypsy
Date: 25 Feb 01 - 12:08 AM

I dunno. This is my year to be forty, and seems like life is getting better with each passing year. I'm a better musician, wife, deacon, person, and friend. I have less hangups. I like myself. It's okay to make mistakes. Of course, my perspective on age is aided by the live in M-I-L, who is 85.


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Subject: RE: BS: Am I really that old???
From: Spud Murphy
Date: 25 Feb 01 - 12:40 AM

Children should be seen and not heard.

And what's so wrong about 'second childhood'?

Spud


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Subject: RE: BS: Am I really that old???
From: DonMeixner
Date: 25 Feb 01 - 01:10 AM

At fifty I haven't the energy to sieze an entire day any more, Carpe Post Meridian makes more sense to me. As I age I learn more, and I refine more. I still play the same games but experience tells me when to slide and when to take the out at second. 100 yards are just a far but I'm in less of a hurry and there is some great things to see along the way. The Swiss naturalist Louis Agassi said of vacations that he took them in his back yard because there were undiscovered worlds under the grasses in his lawn. I still sing the same songs I use too only I understand the passions that inspired them now. Which makes them more passionate in of themselves. I understand now the meaning of " Its the trip, not the destination thats important". As we age we still do the same stuff we did as kids but now we savor when we used to sample. And we've learned to appreciate as well. Ain't nothing wrong with 50, my Sweetie is nearly there and I doubt we will be able to tell the difference tween 49 and 50, any more than we could at 17 and 18 or 22 and 23. If we can just slide through these years together things will be fine.

Don


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Subject: RE: BS: Am I really that old???
From: john c
Date: 25 Feb 01 - 02:07 AM

40 is OLD???? Im getting on for 47 - though really I can hardly believe it. When I reached the magic 40, I found myself turning my life completely on its head. Maybe it was the classical midlife crisis setting in! Anyway, I got out of a relationship which had definatly run its course, dumped a pretty good job in industry and decided it was time to start trying to follow a few of the dreams that had been lurking somewhere deep inside for as long as I can remember. I simply had the feeling that Id been given a second (and last) chance and was bloody sure I was going to take it!
So I stopped earning decent money and started working with severly handicapped adults - and I love every minute. And Ive got a really good band together (which would have been impossible in my earlier life) and a CD out which isnt selling badly at all.Lots of TV and radio coverage. And, and, and.....the list could go on and on!
Ok, so it isnt all a bed of roses.....crises come and crises go.....but its all down to weathering the storm and thats something Ive learned to do pretty well.
But the most important thing - my relationship to my kids couldnt be better. Now that they are growing up, they are turning into really good friends and Im getting to be very proud of them! So much so that my daughter, who is 14 and is going through a very difficult phase, has just camped herself down on my floor and has decided to move in with me. For good!! So I am now sharing my 30m with 6 guitars, a banjo, a mandolin, and a daughter! Looks like the next couple of years could be veeeeery interesting. (Must start looking for a bigger flat!!)
So, what Im trying to say - 40 is the time to take your chances, roll with the changes and make your life what YOU want it to be!
All the best,
John


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Subject: RE: BS: Am I really that old???
From: rangeroger
Date: 25 Feb 01 - 03:02 AM

Around the time I turned 40, my mom made a comment that I was middle-aged and wasn't a success.I told her that I really resented that comment because I wasn't middle aged.

I'm now 55 and am still not a success, whatever that means, but I do finally consider myself middle-aged.

rr


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Subject: RE: BS: Am I really that old???
From: nutty
Date: 25 Feb 01 - 07:26 AM

I never suggested 40 was old

It's 40 years added on to the age I was when The Beatles first appeared that creates the problem ........ life seems to have shot by and in retrospect there have been times when I just wanted to grab the moment and hold it for a while

It's been a real ... STOP THE WORLD I WANT TO GET OFF ...... experience

Now I want to be able to savour life at a much slower pace .. doing a bit of freewheeling where necessary ...


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Subject: RE: BS: Am I really that old???
From: GUEST,2 feathers
Date: 25 Feb 01 - 07:49 AM

Left Field said it well with "Millions of Brain Cells Ago" The part of my brain that I miss the most is the part that remembers all the lryics. My mom will be 99 next week. How come SHE remembers all the words?


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Subject: RE: BS: Am I really that old???
From: John P
Date: 25 Feb 01 - 08:47 AM

We have to age in order to get really good at our professions and hobbies. It hit me when I turned 40 and realized that I was doing my adult work, that I was in the midst of a couple of careers, and that I wasn't waiting to find out what I was going to do with my life anymore -- I was already doing it. Now, seven years later, I am conscious of the fact that I am middle aged, and thouroughly enjoying it.

We have to age in order to be the elders of our communities. I feel like I have learned a lot and seen a lot. Every once in a while I am asked to pass some of it on. The young folks don't get asked that. I hope that continues. I am thoroughly enjoying it.

I think the secret to success as an aging person is to thoroughly enjoy whatever stage of your life you are in. I suspect that is what people really mean when they talk about being young at heart. But I don't see myself as being young at heart or in any other way. I'm having too much fun being the age I am -- I'm getting older all the time and enjoying in thoroughly.

John Peekstok


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Subject: RE: BS: Am I really that old???
From: kendall
Date: 25 Feb 01 - 11:49 AM

One of my wise ass daughters said to me "60 ain't old...if you are a tree."


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Subject: RE: BS: Am I really that old???
From: Amos
Date: 25 Feb 01 - 12:30 PM

That's the kind of woman you want to track down, Kendall. A wiseass who will keep you laughing well into your nineties.

A


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Subject: RE: BS: Am I really that old???
From: Bill D
Date: 25 Feb 01 - 01:08 PM

You are Old Father William

"You are old, father William," the young man said,
"And your hair has become very white;
And yet you incessantly stand on your head--
Do you think, at your age, it is right?"

"In my youth," father William replied to his son,
"I feared it might injure the brain;
But now that I'm perfectly sure I have none,
Why, I do it again and again."

"You are old," said the youth, "as I mentioned before,
And have grown most uncommonly fat;
Yet you turned a back-somersault in at the door--
Pray what is the reason of that?"

"In my youth," said the sage, as he shook his grey locks,
"I kept all my limbs very supple
By the use of this ointment--one shilling the box--
Allow me to sell you a couple?"

"You are old," said the youth, "and your jaws are to weak
For anything tougher than suet;
Yet you finished the goose, with the bones
and the beak--
Pray, how did you manage to do it?"

"In my youth," said his father, "I took to the law,
And argued each case with my wife;
And the muscular strength, which it gave to my jaw,
Has lasted the rest of my life."

"You are old," said the youth, "one would hardly suppose
That your eye was as steady as ever;
Yet you balanced an eel on the end of your nose--
What made you so awfully clever?"

"I have answered three questions, and that is enough,"
Said the father. "Don't give yourself airs!
Do you think I can listen all day to such stuff?
Be off, or I'll kick you down stairs!"


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Subject: RE: BS: Am I really that old???
From: granny
Date: 25 Feb 01 - 04:14 PM

One good thing...The older you get, the less people care about you, or, so it would seem. So, by the same token, the less anybody cares about you getting old. But, when you're young, you've got to be young so perfectly, do it just right, don't screw up. You have more freedom to screw up at being old. (???)

I felt old the other day for a moment...looked at my page-a-day 'Forgotten English' calendar. The word for the day, I suddenly realized...people used to use, when I was young! I could recall saying it (Happened to be the word, 'daw.')-- or, I thought we used to say it.


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Subject: RE: BS: Am I really that old???
From: jaze
Date: 25 Feb 01 - 04:48 PM

I liked Jack Benny's comment on aging: "Age is a matter of mind, if you don't mind, it don't matter"!


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Subject: RE: BS: Am I really that old???
From: Amos
Date: 25 Feb 01 - 05:00 PM

I thought a daw was a common name for the Eurasian crow.

A


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Subject: RE: BS: Am I really that old???
From: Don Firth
Date: 25 Feb 01 - 11:02 PM

I got on an elevator with this old geezer, and I noticed that he looked sort of familiar. He kept staring at me. Finally, he said, "Aren't you Don Firth?" I said I was. He said, "I'm Dean Connolly. We went to Roosevelt High School together!"

That, I think, is what's known as eating a reality sandwich.

Come June, I'll hit the Big Seven-Oh. Actually, I'm about twenty-four. What I want to know is how did I get trapped in this 69 year-old body?!?!?!?!?

The voice still works, and so do the fingers, so what the hell!

Don Firth


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Subject: RE: BS: Am I really that old???
From: Seamus Kennedy
Date: 25 Feb 01 - 11:17 PM

I'm getting great mileage out of my AARP membership card.

Seamus


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Subject: RE: BS: Am I really that old???
From: Seamus Kennedy
Date: 25 Feb 01 - 11:18 PM

Oh, I forgot! I'm not even retired!!

Seamus


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Subject: RE: BS: Am I really that old???
From: Matt_R
Date: 25 Feb 01 - 11:32 PM

Face it, Nathan, yer an old wheezer too. This is MY g-g--g-g-generation, baby!


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Subject: RE: BS: Am I really that old???
From: Amergin
Date: 25 Feb 01 - 11:47 PM

Only my soul is old.....


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Subject: RE: BS: Am I really that old???
From: Matt_R
Date: 26 Feb 01 - 12:15 AM

Ahh, your body is young but your mind is very old?


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From: wdyat12
Date: 26 Feb 01 - 01:32 AM

Am I really that old??? No, I'm in love.

wdyat12


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Subject: RE: BS: Am I really that old???
From: GUEST,Bruce O.
Date: 26 Feb 01 - 02:24 AM

I think I'm now a little older than Dick Greenhaus was when he started the digital Tradition. That's not ancient, but we're no spring chickens.


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Subject: RE: BS: Am I really that old???
From: tradsteve
Date: 26 Feb 01 - 03:53 AM

19 and it's all downhill from here. My ever-increasing waistline, my greying hair. I've all but given up on mating. I remember when I was young and with it...


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Subject: RE: BS: Am I really that old???
From: Deckman
Date: 26 Feb 01 - 07:46 AM

I'm so old that my hometown has a scout troop stationed at street corners just waiting to earn merit badges helping me cross the street! They say that you are only as old as you feel, and MAN do I feel old! Truthfully, I'm still building decks every day of the week and I have a very hard time finding younger carpenters that can keep up with me. CHEERS, Bob (deckman) Nelson


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Subject: RE: BS: Am I really that old???
From: Steve Latimer
Date: 26 Feb 01 - 08:00 AM

I occured to me last week that it won't be very long before we hire someone at work who was born in the eighties. I'm sure this has already happened to some of you.


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Subject: RE: BS: Am I really that old???
From: GUEST,Roger the skiffler
Date: 26 Feb 01 - 09:19 AM

Each generation of students look younger than ever, and now the new lecturers look barely out of kindergarten. When I regale my younger colleagues with tales of "when we first got a photocopier/computer etc." I can see them thinking: "Was the old fart on the ark as well?"
RtS (older than Rick & 'Spaw but younger than Art & Kendall!)


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Subject: RE: BS: Am I really that old???
From: Kim C
Date: 26 Feb 01 - 09:55 AM

I am only 33, I have a few gray hairs, and I remember when they couldn't say "Jane you ignorant slut" on prime time television.


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Subject: RE: BS: Am I really that old???
From: Mary in Kentucky
Date: 26 Feb 01 - 11:49 AM

LEJ, I understand the "Far Out" response. I taught my daughter's 8th grade algebra class. She was so afraid I would embarrass her that she wanted to advise me on what to wear each day. When I finally resisted and told her I'd wear what I wanted, she informed me, "OK, go ahead, everybody will laugh."

Hollowfox, a good friend and I were talking to her mother about how we couldn't work half as hard as our mothers. This lady said the same thing about her mother. Then she remarked, "Guess you girls were just diluted by your fathers' genes."

Kendall and Amos, I'm really enjoying my granddaughter. The funiest thing is when my daughter realizes that I just might know a thing or two about kids. She always leaves Hubby and I with instructions on how to babysit...we can't wait 'til she walks out the door!

Dave, I remember when I was 31 and somebody told me I was closer to 40 than 20. Now things like that just don't seem to matter.

Mary (soon to be 52)


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Subject: RE: BS: Am I really that old???
From: GUEST,Bruce O.
Date: 26 Feb 01 - 01:14 PM

tradsteve, given up on mating? People don't get that old. In case no one told you yet, you're dead.


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Subject: RE: BS: Am I really that old???
From: Doctor John
Date: 26 Feb 01 - 01:21 PM

The Cavern, Nutty? Yes I used to go there when I lived in the 'pool a year or two ago. It's a jazz club in a banana warehouse. None of that pop rubbish. Must go again: I hope Kid Ory's on soon. Dr John


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Subject: RE: BS: Am I really that old???
From: Amergin
Date: 26 Feb 01 - 01:21 PM

No, Mary, now you're closer to 70 than you are to 20....


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Subject: RE: BS: Am I really that old???
From: Mary in Kentucky
Date: 26 Feb 01 - 01:26 PM

(smart-mouthed kid again)


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Subject: RE: BS: Am I really that old???
From: Mary in Kentucky
Date: 26 Feb 01 - 01:30 PM

(He didn't notice that I'm closer to 70 than 30!)


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Subject: RE: BS: Am I really that old???
From: Hollowfox
Date: 26 Feb 01 - 05:04 PM

When somebody bullyrags you about being old, just say,"Older than dirt? I knew dirt when it was a rock!"


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Subject: RE: BS: Am I really that old???
From: Matt_R
Date: 26 Feb 01 - 05:10 PM

I knew dirt when it was a subatomic particle.


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Subject: RE: BS: Am I really that old???
From: Bill D
Date: 26 Feb 01 - 06:44 PM

When I hear some of these radio stations advertise that they play the "oldies", I laugh right out loud!

(for 'some' folks here, the 'oldies' mean before 1700)

Bill D....61, going on 29....


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Subject: RE: BS: Am I really that old???
From: Bugsy
Date: 26 Feb 01 - 09:08 PM

God I miss the old days of Gas TV and Coal Fired Radio.

I remember Derek Brimstone relating a story to me one day about his kids watching an old Black and White movie on the TV and him explaining to them that that's what it used to be like in real life when he was a kid. No colours, just black and white.

Even I'm not THAT old!

Cheers

Bugsy


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Subject: RE: BS: Am I really that old???
From: GUEST,D_hand
Date: 27 Feb 01 - 09:03 AM

my hair don't reach the top of my head anymore - but it's coming out of every orrifice on the way up


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Subject: RE: BS: Am I really that old???
From: Jim Krause
Date: 27 Feb 01 - 05:26 PM

I remember the Old Folks telling me I'd better develop some skill so's I could get a job to fall back on if music didn't work. Funny thing is, I've fallen back on music because the real job didn't work.

I ain't growin' up. Still got long hair, all of it silver and tied up in a ponytail. The ladies, most of 'em still like it, but I notice they're all about my age, too. I been living with my Mother-in-law's daughter for so long, she thinks I was born with long hair and a guitar in my hand, and singing a folksong, like a regular Gypsy Davey.
Jim


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Subject: RE: BS: Am I really that old???
From: Mr Red
Date: 27 Feb 01 - 05:36 PM

As old as my tongue and a little bit older than my teeth.

As Gerrard Hoffnung used to say "I was born at an early age- 'cos I wanted to be near my Mother".

As the fiddler on the roof said of his kids "I don't remember growing older, when did they?"


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Subject: RE: BS: Am I really that old???
From: ddw
Date: 27 Feb 01 - 07:29 PM

Jeez, KimC if you're only 33 now, I'm surprised your mother let you stay up late enough to hear that old SNL schtick which wasn't then on prime-time.

I finally figured out I was getting older when I found I wasn't attracted to most women under 35.

david kickin' the bejeezez outa 58.


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Subject: RE: BS: Am I really that old???
From: Cap't Bob
Date: 27 Feb 01 - 08:14 PM

You are really old if you can remember:

When the ice man (driving a horse drawn wagon) filled your ice box with lake ice.

When you had to wind your victrola in order to hear your favorite record.

Eggs came in a sack rather than a carton.

The milkman brought milk to your door. The cream floated on top of the skim milk.

There was no TV black and white or colored.

There was no plastic.

Cap't Bob


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Subject: RE: BS: Am I really that old???
From: Stewie
Date: 27 Feb 01 - 11:45 PM

Very soon they die But, of that,
There is no sign
In the cicada's cry

(Trad Japan)

--Stewie.


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Subject: RE: BS: Am I really that old???
From: Stewie
Date: 27 Feb 01 - 11:53 PM

I'll try that again:

Very soon they die
But, of that,
There is no sign
In the cicada's cry

(Trad Japan)


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Subject: RE: BS: Am I really that old???
From: Amos
Date: 28 Feb 01 - 01:03 AM

A beautiful reflection, Stewie. It clearly indicates that the successful formula is not to die young, but to stay yyoung until you _do_ die -- and then to get used to it quickly!!!

A


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Subject: RE: BS: Am I really that old???
From: Stewie
Date: 28 Feb 01 - 02:27 AM

Yes, Amos, it is a lovely haiku. It has stuck with me for decades, particularly as, in the wet season, our garden is filled with myriad of those tiny creatures revelling in their brief existence. I am 58 with 6 grandchildren, but I can honestly say that I have rarely reflected on how old I am. There is so much to learn and enjoy. If I ever started thinking about how little time is left, I could become dejected or even bitter. Fuck that!

--Stewie.


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Subject: RE: BS: Am I really that old???
From: blt
Date: 28 Feb 01 - 03:40 AM

I will be 50 this year. I never planned to be 50, it just sort of happened, and I'm not sure I even know what it really means. My memory extends farther than some, not as far as others, I'm still in college (my father avoids answering any question about my age when his friends ask him how old his daughters are), I have a grandchild (!)who's 8, I don't own a house--I can't quite get used to the fact that it's 2001. I remember thinking when I was 10 or 12 that MAYBE I'd be alive when the century turned.

I think I work with teenagers because I like to remember what it's like to be so alive, so torn by hormones and emotions and uncertainties--even though I think teenagers today have to deal with things I was thankfully unaware of (and some that weren't even invented yet when I was 16). There is also something very poignant about realizing that I'm no longer an adolescent, a state of being I think I dragged out for a much longer time than I could have. If I had any doubts that I'm an adult, they're certainly gone now. I've worked for the last week with a gently autistic 15 year old girl, who has a tendency to say exactly what's on her mind--the first day I met her, she said, you're kinda old, huh. I agreed that I was, kind of. She wanted to know exactly how old. I said I was over 40. Oh, she said, really, really, really old. Then she said, you have kinda thick eyebrows and you should really shave off that mustache. I have to admit that I felt more than a little self-conscious the rest of the evening. But I don't know about shaving...

blt


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Subject: RE: BS: Am I really that old???
From: Ella who is Sooze
Date: 28 Feb 01 - 08:59 AM

I'm 28 soon!

I can't believe, the kids I used to baby sit for, are now, graduated from university, at university, and old enough to go to the pub, and bump into me when I am in the pub. Makes me feel old!

Also can't believe it's ten years since my first neice was born, I have been graduated for nearly 6 years, it was 10 years since I left school.

That I don't like Radio one so much now, and most of all I'm getting closer to 30!

Oh!

Ella


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Subject: RE: BS: Am I really that old???
From: Lyrical Lady
Date: 28 Feb 01 - 11:27 AM

OLD!.... been there .... done that!

I'm closer to 50 than 40 and my life is just beginning! LL


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Subject: RE: BS: Am I really that old???
From: GUEST,Matt_R
Date: 28 Feb 01 - 11:29 AM

Men get older
But women remain timeless.


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From: Ella who is Sooze
Date: 28 Feb 01 - 11:37 AM

awww Matt

THAT old gem again!


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Subject: RE: BS: Am I really that old???
From: GUEST,Matt_R
Date: 28 Feb 01 - 11:57 AM

Old? I made that up myself! >>pout<<


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Subject: RE: BS: Am I really that old???
From: Lonesome EJ
Date: 28 Feb 01 - 12:25 PM

In Safeway the other day, a kid about 7 was bouncing a rubber ball and saying "bounce it against the Seven Up....bounce it off of the potato chips...bounce it over by the Hawaiian Punch.." then he bounced it behind me and said "bounce it behind the Old Guy..." I gave him a good-natured smile and booted it into the frozen food aisle.


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Subject: RE: BS: Am I really that old???
From: Amergin
Date: 28 Feb 01 - 12:48 PM

My, God, you're a crotchety old bastard, eh, LEJ?

BLT, every time I turn a year I am amazed that I made it through....but, then, battling this damned genetic disorder since I hit puberty....(depression) gets a bit wearing...But, lately, I've been finding there are actually a few things worth living for...the future being one of them....and at 26 I have a bit to go....


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Subject: RE: BS: Am I really that old???
From: Bardford
Date: 28 Feb 01 - 12:58 PM

This is as young as I'm ever gonna be, so I'm trying to cherish this, my advancing youth. Six or seven years ago, in my mid-thirties,I joined the neighbour kids in a road hockey game. Another kid rode past on his bike-"Hey, Brendan", says he to my young neighbour."Who's the geezer?"
Little whippersnapper. I had half a mind to give him a good talking to, but the prunes kicked in right about then, and I had taken my dentures out for the hockey game, and anyway it was time for my TV program - Mac and Rachel had a big fight and Janet was standing by the door listening when the show ended on Friday,and I didn't want to miss this episode. And the outreach nurse was coming to do my feet. Also I needed to put some unwrapped candies into my cardigan pocket so I would have something to give to visiting children.


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Subject: RE: BS: Am I really that old???
From: Pseudolus
Date: 28 Feb 01 - 12:58 PM

LEJ,
It's a shame you missed your target and kicked the ball.....better luck next time!!! ;-)

An appreciative "old guy",
Frank


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Subject: RE: BS: Am I really that old???
From: Boab
Date: 28 Feb 01 - 05:52 PM

" What's the life of a man any more than a leaf? A man has his season, so why should he grieve? All thro' this life we appear fine and gay-- Like the leaves we will wither, and soon fade away!

Had you seen the leaves but a few days ago, How beautiful and green they all did seem to grow; A frost came upon them and withered them all, Then a storm came upon them, and down they did fall.

What's the life of a man----"

Aye----Lonnie and me--------


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Subject: RE: BS: Am I really that old???
From: Mickey191
Date: 01 Mar 01 - 05:56 PM

Mom says, as she struggles out of a deep set chair, "oh I'm getting old." Father watching says,"you're not getting old-you ARE old." He made it to 92, still riding his bike. He wouldn't give in to the passing years. There is a lesson there. Bardford, Would you tell me how you are able to see "Another World" of 30 yrs. ago? Thanks. Slainte.


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Subject: RE: BS: Am I really that old???
From: MARINER
Date: 01 Mar 01 - 06:04 PM

Age is definitely a state of mind (I hope). I'm a 56 year old grandfather (born 10-05-44)with hair down to my waist(hope it'll grow on my head by next year), fed up with being the only non musician in generations of my family, I'm learning the 5 string banjo.I have a ball, travelling around to music festivals in my old Transit. An old shipmate of mine told me years ago that it was better to wear out than rust out and I've been trying to follow that tip since.


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Subject: RE: BS: Am I really that old???
From: GUEST,Bardford
Date: 01 Mar 01 - 07:39 PM

Mickey 191, Good catch! I was utilizing poetic/temporal license. Wasn't thirty years, though. 1980, methinks. I lived in a co-ed dorm at university, and for a few bright shining weeks the majority of us were hooked on that bloody program. Saved a lot of money by not going to the pub those afternoons, but other than that, I'm not too proud of that aspect of my education. I remember walking between the two residence halls one afternoon, when a huge roar erupted from all the common rooms on all the floors. This was when Rachel stabbed Janet in the pool. Or vice versa. Or Mac stabbed Janet. Or Colonel Mustard poked Rex Morgan in the arm with a penknife.Or something. Don't think I watched much after that. And anyhow, space and time are curved- not only do I sometimes see things that happened thirty years ago, oftimes I'll see things that aren't even there.
Cheers, Bardford


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Subject: RE: BS: Am I really that old???
From: Sailor Dan
Date: 01 Mar 01 - 09:27 PM

When my son was 10 he made the profound statement that young was up to 20, middle age was up to 30 and after that everyone else was old. Jokes on him.

He is 47 and just retired from the Air Force and now works for CSX railroading, My 26 year old grandaughter works for Tri-rail as an Engineer driving trains and my 6 1/2 year old great grandaugter is learning to dance.

I work everyday as a aircraft tech rep, drive and repair my bosses 72 foot yacht, carry a 188 average in bowling, shoot in the low hundreds in golf, I am learning to play the five string banjo, and my Irish heritage keeps the Guinness flowing, the Vodka and tonic flowing and can maintain a steady step with a snootful. My most fervent wish is to play the banjo and dance with my wife at my Great Grandaughters.

I am going to be 69 in June, and dont have time to be grow up or grow old. I am active in my Parish and keep telling the Pastor that when I grow up I want to be like my friend ED who is like a Leprechaun. I still turn and look at a pretty girl amd a pretty woman. There may be snow on the roof but theres still fire in the furnace and not just in my mind. The head is still covered with hair, its silver gray, and not to thin.

Hell, with my great-grandaughter I dont have time to get old?? Besides who wants to, I hate rocking chairs and I would miss to much fun.

And everyday I thank My Lord for the first breath in my lungs and the sight of daylight and the realization that whatever happens for the rest of the day is up to me and him. OLd?? hell thats just a state of mind.

Sailor DAn who still lurks in the background of the cat.


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Subject: RE: BS: Am I really that old???
From: Amos
Date: 01 Mar 01 - 09:40 PM

" I would rather be ashes than dust.
I would rather
that my spark should burn out in a brilliant blaze
than that it should be stifled by dry-rot.
I would rather be a superb meteor
Every atom of me in magnificent glow,
Than a sleepy and permanent planet.
Theproper function of man is to live, not to exist.
I shall not waste my days in trying to prolong themI shall use
My time.

Jack London
1876--1916


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Subject: RE: BS: Am I really that old???
From: roopoo
Date: 02 Mar 01 - 02:07 AM

Last week I bought two books from a chain of nostalgia shops in the UK called Past Times. The books were on growing up in the 50s and being young in the 60s. They mix people's reminiscences with ads and photos of the period. I remembered an awful lot! They showed 5 typical albums of the late 60s - Pink Floyd, Doors, Moody Blues and a couple of others. Guess which ones I've still got in one form or another!

Those of you who want to get wry comments on growing old disgracefully should listen to Terry Wogan on BBC Radio 2 between 7.30 and 9.30 am GMT. The audience does appear to be international.

Andrea


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Subject: RE: BS: Am I really that old???
From: wdyat12
Date: 02 Mar 01 - 02:54 AM

mouldy,

I often feel that I am growing old disgracefully when I find myself acting like I did when I was a kid, irresponsbly. I never will squelch the kid in me though. I may be a danger to myself and others, but please don't lock me away!

wdyat12


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Subject: RE: BS: Am I really that old???
From: Mr Red
Date: 04 Mar 01 - 06:23 AM

Boogie Woogie Red (my hero) Song Lyric-

"When your lips make a date your hips cannot take - thats when you know your growing old"

been there not done that! Or did, if you see what I meana.


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Subject: RE: BS: Am I really that old???
From: okthen
Date: 04 Mar 01 - 05:19 PM

can anyone fill in the missing words, the above post reminded me of.......

You know you're old and over the hill

When your mouth makes promises your body can't fill

something something etc

FEATS DON'T FAIL ME NOW

cheers

bill


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Subject: RE: BS: Am I really that old???
From: Don Firth
Date: 05 Mar 01 - 01:41 PM

Over the hill? How can I be over the hill? I never even got to the top!

Don Firth


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Subject: RE: BS: Am I really that old???
From: Mr Red
Date: 05 Mar 01 - 01:53 PM

okthen

You know your growing old when you can't remember the words to a song.

Particularly whilst singing.......

One you wrote yourself.

As for the song sounds familiar but otherwise can't add anything.


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