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Steve Parkes 30 Jan 01 - 12:24 PM
Twiz 30 Jan 01 - 01:56 PM
Jacob B 30 Jan 01 - 05:05 PM
Sorcha 31 Jan 01 - 09:43 AM
English Jon 31 Jan 01 - 10:12 AM
GUEST,CraigS 31 Jan 01 - 03:48 PM
Steve Parkes 01 Feb 01 - 03:29 AM
GUEST,Bruce O. 01 Feb 01 - 03:44 AM
English Jon 01 Feb 01 - 03:47 AM
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Subject: Tunes in 5/8 7/8 etc for recorder
From: Steve Parkes
Date: 30 Jan 01 - 12:24 PM

My litte brother Neil plays the saxophone, as I've mentioned before; but, hey, he's still my brother! My son (21) bought Neil's 4-year-old daughter Ella a descant recorder for Christmas, which she's managing as well as you'd expect a four-year-old with a jazzman for a father. But Neil has taken an interest in it, to the ext that he's bought -- at his own expense! -- a tenor recorder and a flageolet in D.

I rashly offered to supply him with some challenging tunes in Brubek-like times, (i.e. 5/8, 9/8, you name it) and interesting modes. And of course, I can't just seem to lay my hands on any, can I? But I bet there are plenty of you who can!

Steve


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Subject: RE: Help: Tunes in 5/8 7/8 etc for recorder
From: Twiz
Date: 30 Jan 01 - 01:56 PM

Steve,

There is an excellent tune by a band called 'Flook' It is called Macedonian Ora. It is in 7/8 and is played on the Flute and whistle. Let me know if you are interested and I will write it out for you.

Dave.


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Subject: RE: Help: Tunes in 5/8 7/8 etc for recorder
From: Jacob B
Date: 30 Jan 01 - 05:05 PM

Here is a tune that your brother might find interesting. It's not in 5/8 or 7/8 - but it's not in anything else, either. Chances are, your brother has never heard of zweifachers, and he'll have fun puzzling out how and why a piece of music can have no time signature.

It's usually played with the first note in each bar accented.

Jacob


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Subject: RE: Help: Tunes in 5/8 7/8 etc for recorder
From: Sorcha
Date: 31 Jan 01 - 09:43 AM

From JC's Tunefinder a tune in 7/8

another tune in 7/8

and a tune in 9/8

I know there are some more out there, slip jigs are almost always in 9/8, and O'Neills has quite a few. The song, "My Lagan Love" will play in 9/8.Somewhere in one of the Missing Tunes threads I posted a 9/8 ABC of it.


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Subject: RE: Help: Tunes in 5/8 7/8 etc for recorder
From: English Jon
Date: 31 Jan 01 - 10:12 AM

Bulgarian stuff is great.. Kopenitsas, Horas etc... 11/8, 13/8 etc

A.L.Lloyd made some great recordings, there's also plenty available in ABC format, midi's etc. Just search for Eastern European stuff.


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Subject: RE: Help: Tunes in 5/8 7/8 etc for recorder
From: GUEST,CraigS
Date: 31 Jan 01 - 03:48 PM

There are some particularly irregular and interesting tunes known as Lancashire Hornpipes which you might find interesting - the only one I can name offhand is called "the Lass of Doncaster / The Northern Lass", the first two lines of which Mike Oldfield lifted into the slow bit of "Tubular Bells".


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Subject: RE: Help: Tunes in 5/8 7/8 etc for recorder
From: Steve Parkes
Date: 01 Feb 01 - 03:29 AM

Thanks folks! Sorry for being a long time in replying. Neil tells me he's getting well stuck in.

Twiz, if it's not too much trouble,we'd really appreciate you writing out Macedonian Ora for us.

Steve


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Subject: RE: Help: Tunes in 5/8 7/8 etc for recorder
From: GUEST,Bruce O.
Date: 01 Feb 01 - 03:44 AM

Get almost all in one tune. Percy Grainger's tune for "Lord Melbourne" in JFSS #12, 1908, is in mixed timing of 3/16, 5/16, 7/16, 8/16, 2/8, 3/8, 5/8, 6/8, 7/8, 8/8, 9/8, 2/4, 3/4, 4/4, 5/4, and 6/4 time.


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Subject: RE: Help: Tunes in 5/8 7/8 etc for recorder
From: English Jon
Date: 01 Feb 01 - 03:47 AM

Sorry, didn't think to mention the 3/2 Hornpipes. Thanks Craig. John Offord's book "John of the greeny Cheshire Way" has loads of them. It's out of print, but... You can get the first half of it in ABC format from Richard Robinson's ABC page et al.

Essential 3/2 Hornpipes:

Rusty Gully Dusty Miller (everyone knows these two!) Keys to the Cellar Tom Mellin's Flat Cap

Playford is very good for 3/2 and 6/4 tunes. Jamie Knowle's Book "A northern Lass" is also briliant and has a few interesting tunes...

"Lonsdale Hornpipe" is a 10 part 3/2. Fantastic. "French Stroller" is also fabulous, if you can find it.

Whether these are sufficiently Odd to hold the interest of a Jazzer for very long remains to be seen, but they are fantastic tunes and deserve an airing.

Cheers, Jon


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