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CarolC 10 Nov 00 - 03:23 AM
Amos 10 Nov 00 - 03:05 AM
mousethief 09 Nov 00 - 01:54 PM
SINSULL 09 Nov 00 - 01:32 PM
SINSULL 08 Nov 00 - 05:08 PM
catspaw49 08 Nov 00 - 03:47 PM
kendall 08 Nov 00 - 02:40 PM
GUEST,mousethief (at the library) 08 Nov 00 - 01:40 PM
Bill D 08 Nov 00 - 11:51 AM
SINSULL 08 Nov 00 - 10:48 AM
katlaughing 08 Nov 00 - 10:12 AM
Big Mick 08 Nov 00 - 08:53 AM
SINSULL 08 Nov 00 - 08:51 AM
GUEST,Whistle Stop 08 Nov 00 - 08:34 AM
GUEST 08 Nov 00 - 08:31 AM
MiriamKilmer 08 Nov 00 - 08:28 AM
CarolC 08 Nov 00 - 02:55 AM
katlaughing 08 Nov 00 - 02:40 AM
Lonesome EJ 08 Nov 00 - 02:34 AM
katlaughing 08 Nov 00 - 02:29 AM
Lonesome EJ 08 Nov 00 - 02:19 AM
wysiwyg 08 Nov 00 - 02:18 AM
Thyme2dream 08 Nov 00 - 01:57 AM
Thyme2dream 08 Nov 00 - 01:55 AM
Lonesome EJ 08 Nov 00 - 01:53 AM
Lonesome EJ 08 Nov 00 - 01:48 AM
Thyme2dream 08 Nov 00 - 01:45 AM
kimmers 08 Nov 00 - 01:44 AM
WyoWoman 08 Nov 00 - 01:43 AM
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wysiwyg 08 Nov 00 - 01:28 AM
Lonesome EJ 08 Nov 00 - 01:27 AM
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wysiwyg 08 Nov 00 - 01:11 AM
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kimmers 08 Nov 00 - 01:04 AM
Murray MacLeod 08 Nov 00 - 12:59 AM
mousethief 08 Nov 00 - 12:59 AM
katlaughing 08 Nov 00 - 12:56 AM
Murray MacLeod 08 Nov 00 - 12:50 AM
mousethief 08 Nov 00 - 12:45 AM
katlaughing 08 Nov 00 - 12:43 AM
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Bill D 08 Nov 00 - 12:39 AM
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Subject: RE: BS: LEJ's Mudcat Election HQ 2000
From: CarolC
Date: 10 Nov 00 - 03:23 AM

Here's Part Two


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Subject: RE: BS: LEJ's Mudcat Election HQ 2000
From: Amos
Date: 10 Nov 00 - 03:05 AM

Unfortunate, hell; they've disqualified enough voters with their heebyjeeby forms to give Maine back to Bush and still put Gore in the White House. But Kendall would never stand for it!

A


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Subject: RE: BS: LEJ's Mudcat Election HQ 2000
From: mousethief
Date: 09 Nov 00 - 01:54 PM

From what I've been hearing over the last 2 days, election fraud in Florida is a way of life. It's just unfortunate for the perpetrators that the national attention is focused on them right now.

Alex
O..O
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Subject: RE: BS: LEJ's Mudcat Election HQ 2000
From: SINSULL
Date: 09 Nov 00 - 01:32 PM

Anybody taking bets on how long before Jeb Bush is indicted for election fraud.
Still ironic, Mary


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Subject: RE: BS: LEJ's Mudcat Election HQ 2000
From: SINSULL
Date: 08 Nov 00 - 05:08 PM

The country at large is not ready for an intelligent woman, but, I guess NY is!

Still haven't learned your lesson yet, eh Kendall? What's your take on how often intelligent women get laid? Just curious...
Mary, still practicing irony.


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Subject: RE: BS: LEJ's Mudcat Election HQ 2000
From: catspaw49
Date: 08 Nov 00 - 03:47 PM

Sadly, Ol' Spaw had to do a little hosp time and my biggest regret was not being here to play with the "Mudcat Talking Heads!" One helluva' race!

I think its also true that no one in the office of president at this point will be able to get anything too radical through the Congress. Its Republican, by the slimmest of margins, making it incumbent on all of us as Mick has said to voice our opinions even louder. There won't be much passed without a fight.

Gawd, I'm glad to be back and seeing all these responses. I particularly dislike both Ashcroft and Danforth from Missouri and to see Ashcroft beaten by Carnahan's wife was quite fulfilling. Sorry about Ohio, but this is the home of Taft Republicanism even though we have often gone with Democratic Senators. The presidential race was much closer here than most figured.

Spaw


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Subject: RE: BS: LEJ's Mudcat Election HQ 2000
From: kendall
Date: 08 Nov 00 - 02:40 PM

It just tickles the hell out of me to see that Hillery won. The country at large is not ready for an intelligent woman, but, I guess NY is!


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Subject: RE: BS: LEJ's Mudcat Election HQ 2000
From: GUEST,mousethief (at the library)
Date: 08 Nov 00 - 01:40 PM

If Bush wins the real winners will be the oil companies, and the pharmaceutical companies, and the HMO's, and the heavily polluting industries, and the land-denuding timber companies, and so forth.

The losers will be the environment, the poor, and the middle-class.

Welcome to the 1980's, mark II.

Alex
O..O
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Subject: RE: BS: LEJ's Mudcat Election HQ 2000
From: Bill D
Date: 08 Nov 00 - 11:51 AM

I am awake and pumping coffee into the old IV, and still no definitive answer!....wow!...........

No one was really prepared for Gore winning the popular vote and losing the electoral.......and Florida seems to be only a couple of thousand difference!....

Mick is right, of course....we will keep on keeping on......but if Bush wins this, the REAL winners will be the political cartoonists!


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Subject: RE: BS: LEJ's Mudcat Election HQ 2000
From: SINSULL
Date: 08 Nov 00 - 10:48 AM

You are, of course, correct Mick. I woke up this morning knowing that even if Ralph Nader pulled off the impossible and won the election, I would have a secure job, safe home, food on the table, and a normal life. I'm concerned about the long term effects our new president will have on the make up of the Supreme Court but life in the US will go on pretty much as usual. In that, we are blessed. I am staying.


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Subject: RE: BS: LEJ's Mudcat Election HQ 2000
From: katlaughing
Date: 08 Nov 00 - 10:12 AM

Maybe, Mick, but it gets damn tiring. After eight years of Congress fucking around and blocking anything Clinton tried to do for the people, it's hard to keep hope alive. Of course, Wyoming exacerbates this so perhaps I'l feel better about it next Spring when we finally get the hell out of here.

I am however just busting buttons over pride for Hillary! What a womon!!

kat


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Subject: RE: BS: LEJ's Mudcat Election HQ 2000
From: Big Mick
Date: 08 Nov 00 - 08:53 AM

Something else, eh folks? First off, stop this crazy shit about puking and leaving. I have been in this thing since January, but this is electoral politics. If the Governor wins, he does so on one of the absolute slimmest margins ever, and probably not with the popular vote. To all of you who bitch and piss and moan about the dear old US of A, let me ask you a question. In many countries if the margin were this close one would be concerned about armed insurrection. Our amazing democracy has allowed this great Republic to pass the torch on (arguably) the most powerful chair to sit in in the world in a peaceful way. What will happen, will happen. It has been an amazing ride and the answer is a day or two away. If Dubya wins, then it is incumbent on those of us who are part of the loyal opposition to be there enunciating the differences in our positions and approaches. We all provide the stability and vitality of the system. Anyone who would leave instead of staying and carrying on just doesn't get representative democracy.

Mick


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Subject: RE: BS: LEJ's Mudcat Election HQ 2000
From: SINSULL
Date: 08 Nov 00 - 08:51 AM

No real sleep last night. Up and down and every time I got a different report. The New York Post published a lovely red headline announcing "Bush Wins" then changes it to "Gore Changes His Mind" or some such nonsense. Now they are talking about a few thousand Gore votes in Florida accidentally credited to Buchanan by faulty machines and Joy Behar is claiming that the CIA under orders from former head George Bush has interfered with the vote in Florida. ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ I need sleep.


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Subject: RE: BS: LEJ's Mudcat Election HQ 2000
From: GUEST,Whistle Stop
Date: 08 Nov 00 - 08:34 AM

That was me, by the way; guess I need to refresh.


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Subject: RE: BS: LEJ's Mudcat Election HQ 2000
From: GUEST
Date: 08 Nov 00 - 08:31 AM

I wasn't at my computer last night, so I'm just reading this thread this morning. Sounds like everyone was just as nerve-wracked as I was. But the drama ain't over yet. Keep hope alive. (Anyone else awake out there?)


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Subject: RE: BS: LEJ's Mudcat Election HQ 2000
From: MiriamKilmer
Date: 08 Nov 00 - 08:28 AM

I wake myself up during the night to check for a migraine. The radio blared at 4 AM that Gore had retracted his concession. Florida must recount.

I took a shot for my migraine.

I can't stand the tension, but giving up hope would be worse.

Where are y'all?


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Subject: RE: BS: LEJ's Mudcat Election HQ 2000
From: CarolC
Date: 08 Nov 00 - 02:55 AM

*sob*


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Subject: RE: BS: LEJ's Mudcat Election HQ 2000
From: katlaughing
Date: 08 Nov 00 - 02:40 AM

It's the end of the world, as we know it...


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Subject: RE: BS: LEJ's Mudcat Election HQ 2000
From: Lonesome EJ
Date: 08 Nov 00 - 02:34 AM

Hell of an election. Thanks for being with us on this historic night.Now don your pickle-dimmers and shuffle off to bed.....


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Subject: RE: BS: LEJ's Mudcat Election HQ 2000
From: katlaughing
Date: 08 Nov 00 - 02:29 AM

So did NPR. Fuck! I feel like puking. Unfuckingbelievable...


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Subject: RE: BS: LEJ's Mudcat Election HQ 2000
From: Lonesome EJ
Date: 08 Nov 00 - 02:19 AM

NBC just acknowledged Bush President-elect of the United States.


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Subject: RE: BS: LEJ's Mudcat Election HQ 2000
From: wysiwyg
Date: 08 Nov 00 - 02:18 AM

OH NO


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Subject: RE: BS: LEJ's Mudcat Election HQ 2000
From: Thyme2dream
Date: 08 Nov 00 - 01:57 AM

okay.. I know what this reminds me of...this is almost as exciting as that last Superbowl!


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Subject: RE: BS: LEJ's Mudcat Election HQ 2000
From: Thyme2dream
Date: 08 Nov 00 - 01:55 AM

Actually, last I heard, in Oregon, absentee ballots can technically be counted until Nov 22nd, they just have to be postmarked today...(CNN this time, switching back an forth on my PC)


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Subject: RE: BS: LEJ's Mudcat Election HQ 2000
From: Lonesome EJ
Date: 08 Nov 00 - 01:53 AM

"I can't believe I'm getting my political news from a folk music forum." kimmers,it's simple...we are the only people you can trust.:>}


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Subject: RE: BS: LEJ's Mudcat Election HQ 2000
From: Lonesome EJ
Date: 08 Nov 00 - 01:48 AM

They claimed they would have the absentee ballots counted by 3:30 am EST.


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Subject: RE: BS: LEJ's Mudcat Election HQ 2000
From: Thyme2dream
Date: 08 Nov 00 - 01:45 AM

gee again..NPR says whoever wins will have to get along with both parties...gosh, politicians working together? Maybe this cliffhanger has a silver lining!


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Subject: RE: BS: LEJ's Mudcat Election HQ 2000
From: kimmers
Date: 08 Nov 00 - 01:44 AM

Alex, at least your state is doing better. WA numbers look much more encouraging.

Now we're at 48% Bush, 46% Gore here in the land of Tillamook cheese and the spotted owl, and the political analyst on the idiot box says that there are still a *lot* of votes to come in from Multnomah county, which has traditionally been solid for the Democrats.

So, why are the Floridians going to stop in the middle of the night when they should stay up all night counting votes like those of us on the west coast? Huh? I smell re-count...

I can't believe I'm getting my political news from a folk music forum.


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Subject: RE: BS: LEJ's Mudcat Election HQ 2000
From: WyoWoman
Date: 08 Nov 00 - 01:43 AM

How do they count the absentee ballots? Is it an electronic ballot that they scan? (I just have this image of tables full of League of Women Voters volunteers with pencils in their hands, making hash marks on white paper under the glare of the television cameras .... ) I mean, will they actually have them counted in the next few hours, or is this going to take some more time?

ww


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Subject: RE: BS: LEJ's Mudcat Election HQ 2000
From: kimmers
Date: 08 Nov 00 - 01:31 AM

Oregon's now 49% Bush, 46% Gore. How bleak. I apologize for my state.


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Subject: RE: BS: LEJ's Mudcat Election HQ 2000
From: mousethief
Date: 08 Nov 00 - 01:30 AM

Oh, and did I mention the incoming congress will re-draw the congressional district maps nationwide?

Alex
O..O
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Subject: RE: BS: LEJ's Mudcat Election HQ 2000
From: wysiwyg
Date: 08 Nov 00 - 01:28 AM

They are saying FL count will be done by 2:30 AM and still up for grabs.

~S~


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Subject: RE: BS: LEJ's Mudcat Election HQ 2000
From: Lonesome EJ
Date: 08 Nov 00 - 01:27 AM

Bush's lead down to 28000 in Florida,49%/49%. Hang on...


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Subject: RE: BS: LEJ's Mudcat Election HQ 2000
From: Thyme2dream
Date: 08 Nov 00 - 01:18 AM

gee....


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Subject: RE: BS: LEJ's Mudcat Election HQ 2000
From: wysiwyg
Date: 08 Nov 00 - 01:11 AM

Amos' pickle song is featured in the beginning of a February radio archive... the 16th maybe?

We know what's important eh Mudcatters?

N Central PA Mudcatters voted for Big Mick, too.

~S~


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Subject: RE: BS: LEJ's Mudcat Election HQ 2000
From: Lonesome EJ
Date: 08 Nov 00 - 01:06 AM

Bush apparently issued a press release this morning announcing "President-elect Bush's" Agenda for Wednesday.

Dade County returns are coming in,and Bush's lead has dropped to 60,000 in Fla.


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Subject: RE: BS: LEJ's Mudcat Election HQ 2000
From: mousethief
Date: 08 Nov 00 - 01:05 AM

Did I mention dismantling of the clean air and water acts, repeal of virtually all national gun-control laws, and an acceleration in the wealth gap between the richest 1% of the population and the rest of us?

Alex
O..O
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Subject: RE: BS: LEJ's Mudcat Election HQ 2000
From: kimmers
Date: 08 Nov 00 - 01:04 AM

it ain't looking too good here in Or-ee-gone, folks. Last I saw, it was 49% Bush and 48% Gore. I did my part, but my *&$%# husband voted for Nader. The noive!

We are, however, projected to have an ~83% voter turnout, which is good for something.


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Subject: RE: BS: LEJ's Mudcat Election HQ 2000
From: Murray MacLeod
Date: 08 Nov 00 - 12:59 AM

Kat he can't do it he has to get a 120,000 plurality out of 500,000 votes still to come. I am crying too ....

Murray


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Subject: RE: BS: LEJ's Mudcat Election HQ 2000
From: mousethief
Date: 08 Nov 00 - 12:59 AM

Make way for at least 2 years of environmental rape, corporate welfare, and diminishing civil rights. Sigh.

Alex
O..O
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Subject: RE: BS: LEJ's Mudcat Election HQ 2000
From: katlaughing
Date: 08 Nov 00 - 12:56 AM

NO! Not yet!! Keep the faith!!


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Subject: RE: BS: LEJ's Mudcat Election HQ 2000
From: Murray MacLeod
Date: 08 Nov 00 - 12:50 AM

The game is up for Gore,there just aren't enough votes left for him to take Florida. Damn, for the longest time I thought he still had a chamce ..........

Murray


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Subject: RE: BS: LEJ's Mudcat Election HQ 2000
From: mousethief
Date: 08 Nov 00 - 12:45 AM

Voters, have close elections got you tied into a knot? Is your stomach churning, burning, yearning to breathe free? Reach for Ab-Cen-Tee antacids. Yes, Ab-Cen-Tee can turn an election upset ... stomach into a smooth situation. Cool, breezy, a little slow to be counted, but mighty in their own way, Ab-Cen-Tee antacids are available wherever mail-in ballots are allowed. Got more Gore than your stomach can handle? Has a burning Bush got you dancing the hot-foot? Get Ab-Cen-Tee antacids today. And tomorrow. And all next week.

Not available in all states.

---

Alex
O..O
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Subject: RE: BS: LEJ's Mudcat Election HQ 2000
From: katlaughing
Date: 08 Nov 00 - 12:43 AM

Flo-ri-da! Flo-ri-da! Go-Go-Go-Gore! G'night, Bill....


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Subject: RE: BS: LEJ's Mudcat Election HQ 2000
From: Lonesome EJ
Date: 08 Nov 00 - 12:42 AM

we'll keep a candle in the window,Bill


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Subject: RE: BS: LEJ's Mudcat Election HQ 2000
From: Bill D
Date: 08 Nov 00 - 12:39 AM

I have craft shows to do....which means wood to turn....I am going to bed and dream of Florida.......ya'll don't stay up TOO late, hear?


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Subject: RE: BS: LEJ's Mudcat Election HQ 2000
From: katlaughing
Date: 08 Nov 00 - 12:29 AM

Miriam, it's to the tune of RISING OF THE MOON; there is a midi of that in the DT right here. I thnk that is also the tune to Wearing of the Green.

The politician who lied about living at my sisters' address and was charged with two counts of voter fraud and could face up to 20 years in prison won here. Voters are a strange breed. I would suspect she will resign and teh GOP are breathing easier knowing they can put another patsy in her spot. It's disgusting.


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Subject: RE: BS: LEJ's Mudcat Election HQ 2000
From: mousethief
Date: 08 Nov 00 - 12:28 AM

I'm on pins and needles here.

Alex
O..O
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Subject: RE: BS: LEJ's Mudcat Election HQ 2000
From: katlaughing
Date: 08 Nov 00 - 12:19 AM

If they do get the White House AND congress, in two years, we can at least take back the House and Senate!!!

Isn't it time for another commercial break, something for relief......


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Subject: RE: BS: LEJ's Mudcat Election HQ 2000
From: WyoWoman
Date: 08 Nov 00 - 12:16 AM

Wow, doug. Coming from you, that's downright moving ... Ok. I won't throw my toothbrush in yet, but the bags are out of the garage and the flannel jammies are folded up and set on the bed ...

ww


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